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[00:00:09] Good evening everyone and thank you for joining us on France 24. Leading this
[00:00:12] newscast, Pope is expected in Lourdes. He
[00:00:16] will begin with a prayer in the Grotto of Apparitions, that will be in a few
[00:00:19] moments, but before that, this afternoon 700,000 people had
[00:00:23] gathered in Place de la Concorde in Paris for a giant
[00:00:27] mass, the highlights in a moment. No
[00:00:30] reception, Donald Trump rejects Iran's offer to
[00:00:34] reopen the Strait of Hormuz within 7 days. It was at the UN General Assembly
[00:00:37] this week that
[00:00:41] proposal during the UN General Assembly Tehran made the proposal, but the American president believes that the Iranian regime is losing
[00:00:45] the game, we will come back to that in this
[00:00:47] newscast. An expulsion that causes a
[00:00:50] real outcry in Spain, hundreds of people are currently demonstrating in
[00:00:54] Madrid to support Marie Carmen, an 87-year-old
[00:00:58] woman who lived in an apartment in the center of the capital for 7
[00:01:02] decades, expelled by the real estate agency that had bought
[00:01:05] her home, an illustration of the housing
[00:01:09] Formerly known as the Venice of crisis in Spain, we will be live from Madrid in a moment with Selma Hajbuusian.
[00:01:27] Pope Leo 14 is therefore expected in Lourdes
[00:01:30] in a few minutes after an XXL mass
[00:01:34] in Place de la Concorde in Paris. 700,000 people from all over
[00:01:37] France gathered for the Pope's giant mass,
[00:01:41] he again addressed young people after the prayer vigil dedicated
[00:01:45] to them yesterday at the Stade de France, so what can
[00:01:49] we take away from this day of this fervor in Paris
[00:01:52] in a moment, the details from Marie Schuster who was
[00:01:54] there.
[00:01:59] There is great fervor, that's what we can take away from this
[00:02:02] XXL mass as you said. So right now as I speak to
[00:02:05] you, the giant screens are off, traffic will
[00:02:08] reopen here on
[00:02:11] the Champs-Élysées. There are still some people, we crossed
[00:02:15] just a moment ago
[00:02:18] your program with the French Caisse a convent of people who are part of a convent who
[00:02:20] must hurry Monteldi not to be
[00:02:24] in traffic jams, they have a 5-hour drive. In any case, we felt this fervor
[00:02:28] all day long, we were in the middle of the...
[00:02:30] crowd on the Champs-Élysées with my cameraman Fabrice
[00:02:34] Houssou, a fervor at the passage of the Popemobile,
[00:02:37] of course, where people were pushing to
[00:02:40] catch a glimpse of the Pope, a fervor also at the end of this mass
[00:02:43] where the faithful who had gathered there
[00:02:48] popular backgrounds, they are more often from since the beginning of the morning raised as one man the small Vatican flags that had
[00:02:51] been distributed to them at the entrance of the checkpoints and
[00:02:55] then warmly applauded Leo 14 and
[00:02:58] on the screens. I can assure you that many also
[00:03:02] felt the emotion of the Pope himself,
[00:03:05] the emotion regarding this welcome he received
[00:03:09] in the French capital. Next steps for
[00:03:12] Pope Leo XIV on this apostolic journey this evening in
[00:03:16] Lourdes and tomorrow and Monday, excuse me, in Mess for a final
[00:03:21] These new Catholics are changing the face of celebration to which will be invited, excuse me, the heads of European
[00:03:24] renewing it from states, and on his agenda
[00:03:27] tomorrow in Lourdes, Pope Leo XIV is to meet
[00:03:30] seven victims of sexual violence committed within the Church,
[00:03:34] a closed-door meeting, among these people, there is a victim of Abbé
[00:03:38] Pierre and a former student of Betarram, two cases that
[00:03:41] shook French society
[00:03:43] and Tanaji.
[00:03:46] The mosaics adorning the facade of the Rosary Basilica in
[00:03:50] Lourdes hidden for the visit of Pope
[00:03:53] Leo XIV. They are the work of the artist and Jesuit
[00:03:56] priest Marco Roupnik, accused
[00:03:59] of sexual assault and psychological manipulation by several of his
[00:04:03] former collaborators, including nuns. The
[00:04:06] Vatican would not have exerted any pressure to conceal them, according to the Bishop
[00:04:10] of Tarbes and Lourdes, who invokes a symbolic decision
[00:04:13] out of respect for the pilgrims.
[00:04:17] It's important because my clients' accounts have revealed that they themselves
[00:04:21] suffered abuse at
[00:04:23] Your program with the Caisse des Français de the time the artwork itself was being
[00:04:25] created.
[00:04:28] During his visit to Lourdes scheduled for Sunday, the Pope will
[00:04:32] 7 days, it was during the UN General Assembly meet seven victims of sexual abuse within the French
[00:04:34] clergy. More than words and condemnations, many
[00:04:38] victims are now awaiting action from Pope Leo XIV,
[00:04:42] who recently described sexual abuse committed in the Church as an open
[00:04:45] wound, and we obviously hope
[00:04:49] that this meeting will be strong and not
[00:04:53] only in terms of emotion, but in
[00:04:56] terms of taking a stand and that
[00:04:59] he will display... an absolute shame regarding
[00:05:02] all those priests who committed the unspeakable. In
[00:05:06] 2021, a report by an independent commission
[00:05:09] estimated at 33,000 the number
[00:05:12] of children who suffered sexual violence within the Catholic Church in
[00:05:15] France, abuses that are 7 decades old. The
[00:05:19] restorative bodies created by the episcopate after the publication of this
[00:05:23] report, as well as victims' groups, are already calling it
[00:05:27] a missed opportunity, they would have preferred a collective
[00:05:30] discussion lasting a whole day. Catholic
[00:05:33] authorities have put in place protection measures and financial
[00:05:36] compensation, but victims continue to demand
[00:05:39] accountability and more prevention.
[00:05:45] In other news, Donald Trump rejects Iran's offer to
[00:05:48] reopen the Strait of Hormuz. Tehran submitted this
[00:05:53] this week for a reopening of the passage within 7
[00:05:57] days, and according to the Wall Street Journal, the American
[00:06:00] president would even consider resuming
[00:06:03] bombings on Iran after the midterm elections in November.
[00:06:07] Axel Simon:
[00:06:10] Have you talked about the war with Iran?
[00:06:12] Will there be progress regarding the Strait of Hormuz? I think we will make excellent
[00:06:16] progress, progress announced but which will still be
[00:06:20] delayed. According to the Wall Street Journal, Donald Trump on Friday
[00:06:24] rejected an Iranian proposal to reopen the Strait of
[00:06:28] Hormuz within 7 days, which is currently locked. The proposal
[00:06:31] formulated by Tehran through Qatari mediators provided
[00:06:35] for the reopening of this strategic shipping lane and the suspension
[00:06:39] of fighting in the region, including in Lebanon. In return, broader
[00:06:42] negotiations would have been initiated, the United States would have
[00:06:46] lifted the blockade of Iranian ports, unfrozen
[00:06:49] funds and renounced oil sanctions against Iran.
[00:06:53] Unacceptable for Donald Trump, the American president believes, according to the
[00:06:57] Wall Street Journal, that the Islamic Republic will not keep its
[00:07:00] commitments. The American president, who would not rule out
[00:07:03] memorandum of understanding signed in June between mid-term legislative elections on
[00:07:07] November 3rd. Unacceptable threats according to the head of Iranian
[00:07:11] diplomacy.
[00:07:13] Iran accepts neither coercion, nor threats, nor intimidation and
[00:07:17] will not give up its sovereign rights under pressure, sovereignty is
[00:07:21] not conditional,
[00:07:24] diplomacy does not mean capitulation and peace
[00:07:27] cannot be built on threats
[00:07:29] of annihilation.
[00:07:32] The stalemate thus continues on both sides and Donald Trump has even
[00:07:36] added fuel to the fire with this map published on his social
[00:07:39] network which proposes to rename the... Strait of Hormuz Trump, the
[00:07:43] Trump, le protocole d'accord signé en juin entre
[00:07:47] Tehran and Washington provided however for an end to the war,
[00:07:51] to reopen this strategic maritime passage and to conduct
[00:07:54] talks on the ultra-sensitive issue of the Iranian nuclear
[00:07:57] program, but no significant progress has been made
[00:08:00] since its signing.
[00:08:04] An eviction that caused a real outcry in Spain, hundreds
[00:08:08] of people are protesting in Madrid right now to support
[00:08:11] Mar. an 87-year-old woman who lived in an apartment
[00:08:15] in the center of the Spanish capital for 7
[00:08:18] decades. She was evicted by the real estate agency that
[00:08:21] bought her home. We listen to her before
[00:08:25] we find Selma Hajbuusian in Madrid
[00:08:28] by phone.
[00:08:33] Selma, yes,
[00:08:36] Selma, there you go, you hear me, the
[00:08:40] demonstration started a few moments ago. There was already another one
[00:08:43] last Wednesday, so the
[00:08:46] mobilization for Marie Carmen does not weaken
[00:08:50] only. Yes, absolutely, there's a new
[00:08:53] demonstration, as you just said here, taking place right
[00:08:56] now. It follows the first demonstration that took place
[00:09:00] Wednesday afternoon following Marie Carmen's eviction.
[00:09:03] This time, tens of thousands of people went
[00:09:07] to demonstrate against this eviction, but more
[00:09:11] broadly against the housing crisis in Madrid and
[00:09:15] in Spain. This demonstration was organized by the Madrid tenants'
[00:09:18] union with the support of Marie Carmen,
[00:09:21] who this afternoon asked Spaniards to
[00:09:25] mobilize for the right to housing and for changes to be
[00:09:29] made to the law. A complex situation that
[00:09:32] continues and has become unbearable for millions
[00:09:35] of Spaniards who are revolted and who see their
[00:09:38] rents increase year after year.
[00:09:42] Rents that have increased by more than 30% between
[00:09:46] 2021 and 2024, while wages themselves have
[00:09:50] only increased by 7.9% during the same
[00:09:53] period. A high-tension situation
[00:09:56] that fuels this housing crisis that Spain has
[00:10:00] been facing again in recent
[00:10:02] years. Thank you, Selma
[00:10:05] Hajbudyan for being live with us by phone
[00:10:09] from Madrid as well. These
[00:10:12] catastrophic floods in Bangkok, the Thai capital is under
[00:10:16] water, after torrential rains, the state of natural
[00:10:20] disaster has been declared throughout the city, the torrential
[00:10:23] rains are uninterrupted. The last 48 hours have
[00:10:26] caused significant floods. Axel
[00:10:29] Simon.
[00:10:32] Submerged roads and residents forced to move through more
[00:10:36] than twenty centimeters of water. As Bangkok's
[00:10:39] canals overflow and water seeps into buildings, life
[00:10:42] continues at all costs in the streets of the Thai capital under the
[00:10:46] torrential rains.
[00:10:50] I am in shock, honestly, this situation is quite
[00:10:52] frightening. Saturday
[00:10:56] evening, the situation was considered stabilized, even if
[00:11:00] the roads are still flooded, the damage is already
[00:11:03] considerable, according to the Bangkok authorities, the most
[00:11:06] affected part is the east of the city, they have opened
[00:11:09] several temporary shelters in schools and have prepared 1 million sandbags
[00:11:13] for residents to
[00:11:14] protect their homes and businesses.
[00:11:17] The warnings were rather limited this time, the only real alert came
[00:11:21] Thursday morning via a notification on our phones.
[00:11:25] Before that, I wasn't sufficiently informed to consider taking refuge
[00:11:29] elsewhere.
[00:11:34] the East, Bangkok is built on old swamps and is organized
[00:11:38] around a vast network of canals. The Thai capital
[00:11:41] regularly experiences seasonal floods, particularly in
[00:11:44] September during the monsoon
[00:11:46] season.
[00:11:49] It's been 10 or 15 years since we've seen such rain and this level of flooding
[00:11:52] here.
[00:11:56] In 2011, major floods throughout Thailand had
[00:11:59] killed more than 500 people and damaged millions of
[00:12:02] homes.
[00:12:06] During his travels in Paris, Pope Leo 14 highlighted this
[00:12:10] trend, the number of adolescent and adult baptisms is exploding in France, a
[00:12:14] phenomenon that has been surprising for several years, more than
[00:12:17] 21,000 catechumens received the sacrament this year, it's a
[00:12:21] record, as explained this renewed interest in the Catholic
[00:12:25] religion, it's our magazine, it's in France,
[00:12:43] des Français de l'Étranger, health insurance and retirement, the CFE, the
[00:12:46] social security for
[00:12:47] expatriates.
[00:13:05] A trend that no one saw coming, for
[00:13:09] several years, the number of baptisms has been exploding among young people in
[00:13:13] France. I baptize you in the name of the
[00:13:16] Father, when I arrived 8 years ago, 10 baptisms per
[00:13:20] year and we are preparing to welcome 45 or 50
[00:13:23] baptisms for next Easter.
[00:13:27] A phenomenon that can be explained by a difficult current
[00:13:29] context, but not only, yes, I can say I had a
[00:13:33] personal encounter with
[00:13:35] Jesus,
[00:13:38] what does the Catholic Church have to say about the meaning of life? That was really my
[00:13:41] approach.
[00:13:46] the Church and
[00:13:49] within.
[00:14:00] Joann and Mathieu have been friends for 4 years, they met
[00:14:04] on the university benches in Paris not far from this
[00:14:08] climbing wall. It's an interesting sport and it has a lot of
[00:14:12] implicit communication especially through the
[00:14:14] rope and and yeah you have to trust each other it's
[00:14:17] cool a complicity based on a common desire for
[00:14:21] performance.
[00:14:25] Come on,
[00:14:29] but for Johanne, physical exertion is no longer
[00:14:31] enough, and soon she embarks on a quest for
[00:14:34] spirituality, I didn't grow up in a religious environment at
[00:14:38] all, on the contrary, we talked very little about God, when we talked about God, it was more to say
[00:14:41] that everyone should do as they wanted and that I shouldn't be
[00:14:45] imposed something, my mother is agnostic and my
[00:14:48] father, however, who is deeply atheist and rather
[00:14:51] anticlerical.
[00:14:54] Yet, at her grandmother's funeral, Johanne hears
[00:14:57] Ave Maria, a Catholic song that
[00:15:00] moves him deeply. I was asking myself questions about what the real meaning of
[00:15:03] life was, and well I knew that religions in general
[00:15:07] could potentially answer that, or at least offer an answer, and I knew that
[00:15:11] Mathieu, my best friend, was Catholic, so I told him:
[00:15:15] "Listen Mathieu, if you go to mass, I'd
[00:15:19] be willing to go with you to
[00:15:20] see."
[00:15:23] A curiosity shared by many.
[00:15:39] "The pandemic, the war in Ukraine, the worsening
[00:15:42] of global warming make the future seem darker
[00:15:46] than modernity, which seemed to offer solutions to the problems of human
[00:15:50] life, sometimes appears as a threat, and that religion
[00:15:53] in general, spirituality
[00:15:55] regains credibility among younger
[00:15:58] generations.
[00:16:05] Generally, young people when they arrive at the
[00:16:08] church and knock on the door, they have already traveled a path. For some, it has been a
[00:16:11] question since their childhood, they were not baptized because their parents were not
[00:16:14] believers, not practicing. There is a path, for some it is a very
[00:16:18] recent experience, it can be a sudden discovery
[00:16:21] of God in a church, a reading of the Bible that has transformed their
[00:16:25] lives,
[00:16:27] and then there is a moment when they are invited to come to what
[00:16:31] we call here the youth mass, a mass that gathers nearly 100 young people and they
[00:16:34] experience that they are not the only ones asking themselves
[00:16:38] the question, here I think, about 20% of our assembly are people who are not
[00:16:42] baptized or who are
[00:16:44] returning.
[00:16:48] Among these new Catholics, Malik, a lawyer
[00:16:51] of Senegalese origin and Muslim
[00:16:53] culture. When he arrives in Paris for his
[00:16:57] studies, Malik feels an immense
[00:16:59] void, so he immerses himself in the
[00:17:02] Bible.
[00:17:06] For over 10 years, he has come to go to churches several
[00:17:09] times because I wanted to see paintings, because I like
[00:17:12] architecture, but as soon as I felt a mass
[00:17:15] starting, I would run away because I didn't feel at
[00:17:19] home, because I told myself that the Catholics would gather
[00:17:23] among themselves and I didn't belong to that world, so I had to
[00:17:26] leave.
[00:17:30] In 2021, a friend will invite me to her wedding mass. I will
[00:17:34] find myself for the first time in a mass after the...
[00:17:38] host, I will understand that God had always been there for me,
[00:17:42] it's a bit like this phrase that continues to make me live today, it's
[00:17:45] Jacob who says that, when he wakes up one morning, he says: God
[00:17:49] was there and I did not know it, it's this phrase that
[00:17:52] worked on me, I understood that God had
[00:17:55] always been there, who had led me and that I was discovering him at that
[00:17:59] moment, for this new generation, religion
[00:18:02] is no longer a taboo or an
[00:18:05] obligation.
[00:18:07] Religion ceases to be a legacy that one receives at birth and that is
[00:18:11] transmitted automatically from one
[00:18:14] generation to another, to become more of a free choice.
[00:18:18] So compared to the typical profile of Catholicism, these
[00:18:21] new baptized people bring diversity, they come from more
[00:18:26] immigration, they diversify the image of Catholicism and break
[00:18:29] the stereotypes associated
[00:18:31] with it.
[00:18:35] Among the baptism candidates,
[00:18:38] Morgane, she is 27 years old and is preparing to become
[00:18:41] an English teacher.
[00:18:45] I grew up in a city in the 94, in a single-parent
[00:18:48] family, led by my mother, with an older
[00:18:52] sister who is disabled so she went to a care home, my mother was
[00:18:56] a police officer, she came from Madagascar when she was 19, she was
[00:19:00] Protestant, but we were never really practicing as a
[00:19:03] family, we didn't go to mass, we didn't go to temple, I didn't understand
[00:19:07] what it really was when I was a child.
[00:19:11] Following the death of her mother and then her
[00:19:13] godfather, Morgane felt the need to go to church and
[00:19:17] looked up information on the internet.
[00:19:21] Near her home, she finds Sainte-Anne de la Butte-aux-Cailles where she is
[00:19:24] welcomed by a priest, but she still
[00:19:27] hesitates.
[00:19:31] I have a feeling I can't explain why, it was September 2025,
[00:19:34] no I have to go back to church, I went there, found Father Henry, I
[00:19:38] asked him if I could still join the catechumenate, he said no
[00:19:42] problem and that was the beginning of the adventure
[00:19:44] so.
[00:19:47] The catechumenate is the teaching that leads to baptism,
[00:19:51] it lasts on average 2 years, was much more
[00:19:54] important, how are the Gospels of the day chosen because it's fixed since
[00:19:58] it's written in the Bible, how was it chosen? To clarify the
[00:20:01] question, it's about the choice of liturgical texts that are heard at
[00:20:05] mass, there are Sunday masses.
[00:20:42] Today is the return of the new Dr. Love format,
[00:20:46] is Angela having a meltdown or what? Today, look, I'm in a new little
[00:20:50] context, a new era, new methods of
[00:20:53] communication. The Church must now reckon with
[00:20:57] influencers. Let's start with my podium, for example, the Catholic
[00:21:00] Church has very little hold over these
[00:21:02] influencers who will mix beauty
[00:21:06] tips, Jesus glow, Lenten
[00:21:09] routines and theological elements. So the very
[00:21:13] horizontal logic of social networks, from this point of view,
[00:21:16] weakens the vertical dimension of Catholicism.
[00:21:21] The most famous is Brother Paul Adrien, over
[00:21:23] 65,000 subscribers, Albertine, check out her Instagram,
[00:21:27] it's huge, so she's really very lucky. On the women's side, we
[00:21:31] have Sister Albertine who started on social networks in
[00:21:34] 2021 with the support of her community in France.
[00:21:38] Let us be present at this moment and then pray for the
[00:21:41] Pope, pray for France,
[00:21:43] amen. To serve young people, you have to
[00:21:47] understand their world, what they watch? Hours a
[00:21:50] day, and so it started like that, making small simple videos, they are really
[00:21:54] short simple videos to answer pretty basic
[00:21:57] questions that they asked me, but very quickly the
[00:22:01] messages multiplied and the requests went further, she says she is not
[00:22:05] Catholic but she appreciates the content, there is not a week where someone
[00:22:08] does not share, who opens their heart in a
[00:22:12] true quest for God. I very regularly give a phone
[00:22:16] number or a contact for a parish with a proposal
[00:22:20] that will allow them to go from the virtual to the real, because
[00:22:23] we are the religion of incarnation, we are a religion that cannot
[00:22:26] be lived completely behind a
[00:22:29] screen.
[00:22:33] It was precisely an influencer who guided Malik to the Church of the
[00:22:37] Trinity and its priest,
[00:22:40] an encounter that changed his life and that of his Muslim
[00:22:43] mother. At the beginning of my catechumenate
[00:22:47] when, well, the brothers and sisters in the parish... because we are
[00:22:50] very numerous, asked me "how will it
[00:22:54] go with your mother, when you tell her", I always answered a bit
[00:22:58] almost annoyed, a bit off the cuff, "it will go very
[00:23:01] well", my mother lived all her life
[00:23:05] in France, she has very good Catholic friends, so
[00:23:09] I didn't prepare it and then one
[00:23:12] Sunday, well, I tell her that I'm going to ask for baptism and
[00:23:16] that, by the way, I have to leave the Sunday lunch.
[00:23:20] because I have to go to evening mass.
[00:23:24] And it caused a chill, a
[00:23:27] very cold atmosphere between us.
[00:23:30] We hardly spoke for almost a year, but indeed it
[00:23:34] was not simple,
[00:23:36] yeah.
[00:23:39] More and more, it is friends who lead to
[00:23:41] religion, like Mathieu who followed Joann's entire journey
[00:23:45] until he became her godfather.
[00:23:47] Joann,
[00:23:49] I... baptize you in the name of the Father
[00:23:53] and of the Son and of the
[00:23:55] Holy Spirit.
[00:23:57] Amen.
[00:24:00] I was proud to be able to support you in this preparation and
[00:24:03] now that I am your godfather, and that you are
[00:24:06] baptized, I think you agree that it's also an
[00:24:10] additional pillar to our relationship. I, that's what I said,
[00:24:13] it's a bit like a friendship marriage, it's... it's
[00:24:16] really, well, now we are bound by something that also transcends us, hmm.
[00:24:20] It's, it's, it's, it's still particular how well
[00:24:22] also
[00:24:25] links, that's what many young people seek in
[00:24:27] the church. At her baptism, Morgane will be
[00:24:31] supported by her friends from the choir, but also
[00:24:34] by her elder sister. I grew up feeling
[00:24:37] different, especially from my sister, going to
[00:24:40] church allowed me to realize that I had the right to be
[00:24:44] there unconditionally, that I am, I am
[00:24:48] part of the world and I have the right.
[00:25:00] The church compels her to take action and open up to the
[00:25:04] world.
[00:25:13] l'Étranger, health insurance and retirement, the CFE, the
[00:25:16] social security for expatriates.
[00:25:53] During the negotiations, the Americans said:
[00:30:11] awaited in Lourdes. He will begin with a prayer in the Grotto
[00:30:15] of Apparitions. That will be in a few moments, but before that, this
[00:30:18] afternoon, 700,000 people had gathered in the Place de la Concorde in
[00:30:22] Paris for a giant mass. Highlights
[00:30:26] in a moment. End of refusal, Donald Trump
[00:30:29] rejects Iran's offer to reopen the strait. Moose within
[00:30:34] this week that Tehran made the proposal, but the
[00:30:38] American president believes that the Iranian regime is losing
[00:30:42] the game. We will return to this in this newscast.
[00:30:46] An expulsion that causes a real uproar in Spain. Hundreds
[00:30:49] of people are currently demonstrating in Madrid to support Marie
[00:30:53] Carmen, an 87-year-old woman who had lived in an
[00:30:56] apartment in the city center for 7 decades.