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[00:00:02] funds, he had, he had
[00:00:12] Hello, it's safe to say we weren't expecting it, Flavio
[00:00:16] Brazilians are very jealous indeed of that on the evening and the day after Bolsonaro in the lead after the first round of the presidential election in
[00:00:19] Brazil, no poll had seen it coming, a disappointment
[00:00:23] for the outgoing head of state, Loula who is now approaching the
[00:00:27] second round as a Challenger, is it the fight too many? You will tell us about the
[00:00:31] will not be that mia walalu, what are the keys to this election and the lessons we can
[00:00:34] already draw from it, you who are a specialist in Latin America, you were a
[00:00:37] correspondent in Brazil and you are the author of Jesus Thème la
[00:00:41] déferlante évangélique aux éditions du ser which evokes
[00:00:44] the presence of these churches in Brazil and let's go back
[00:00:48] to this twist at the announcement of the results, Loula
[00:00:51] Bolsonaro, the leading duo of this
[00:00:54] opposition from law election and well the one announced, but not in the expected order, their duel will only be more
[00:00:58] indecisive.
[00:01:02] All smiles on the evening of the first round, at 45 years old, the populist right-wing candidate
[00:01:05] comes out on top of the
[00:01:07] votes. I can't be
[00:01:10] happier to see that Brazil wants
[00:01:11] change.
[00:01:14] In the streets of Rial, his supporters exult. The
[00:01:18] surprise is huge, Flavio Bolsonaro is well on his way to
[00:01:21] winning. It's his father, Jahir Bolsonaro,
[00:01:24] the former far-right president, condemned for attempting a coup
[00:01:28] d'état, who designated him.
[00:01:40] Uberization of
[00:01:44] hardest and that perhaps Lula's
[00:02:04] In his camp, faces are drawn, the rising cost of
[00:02:08] living swept away the polls which until the last moment had him leading the
[00:02:12] ballot, his supporters seem to have lost
[00:02:14] hope, we have to start campaigning again, otherwise we will
[00:02:18] lose, and that will be 4 difficult
[00:02:20] years, if Flavio Bolsonaro wins in the second
[00:02:24] round, Brazil would join the conservative
[00:02:27] wave in South America. encouraged
[00:02:30] by Donald Trump.
[00:02:33] The mia or the lou, the Bolsonaro vote which exceeds on election
[00:02:38] and this is now the mission of Lula's day, the intentions expressed by voters in the polls, it's
[00:02:41] almost a habit now, in view of the last three presidential elections
[00:02:45] in Brazil. Yes, there is undoubtedly a dimension of vote, of shame, of
[00:02:48] hidden vote, which we expected because even today,
[00:02:52] not everyone says they vote Bolsonaro, first because Flavio
[00:02:55] Bolsonaro himself doesn't have a real career, it's more of a family name
[00:02:58] than anything else. uh and then when you know him, you know him more for
[00:03:02] his links with militias, for the big corruption stories, he has for example a
[00:03:06] chocolate shop where he sells the same quantity every month, there's no more
[00:03:10] for PAC, it's just money laundering, in fact he has many more serious stories
[00:03:14] by the way, so he has a good part of his
[00:03:17] voters who undoubtedly did not declare what they were going to vote for,
[00:03:21] and we must also imagine a mobilization effect which is
[00:03:25] linked to networks among others linked to evangelical
[00:03:28] churches which are very... powerful and to very powerful social networks, very very well
[00:03:32] organized, much better organized on the Bolsonaro side than on Loula's side and
[00:03:36] which pushed people to vote at the last minute, it must be said that
[00:03:40] up to two or three days before there were about thirty percent who said
[00:03:44] they were undecided, which is still practically unprecedented in Brazil, so a
[00:03:47] strong capacity for mobilization to mobilize its own voters on election
[00:03:51] day, but also as you told us, a declarative bias, a hidden vote,
[00:03:55] nevertheless when we look, there has been a constant progression of
[00:03:59] votes in favor of... of
[00:04:00] counter the growing elected were elected. with Bolsonaro whether it is the first election of 2018,
[00:04:04] 2022, or even losing, he had nevertheless improved his
[00:04:08] score in terms of votes, 56
[00:04:11] 300 injured, that's the toll of million, 58 million even in the 2nd round, there we are at 56 million in the first
[00:04:14] round, he makes an opera on the Brazilian right, he makes the opera on
[00:04:18] the Brazilian right as unfortunately a little in the world, we see that the far right makes
[00:04:21] the OPA on the traditional right, the traditional right no longer has real
[00:04:24] narratives uh while the far right has managed to have a narrative in
[00:04:28] terms of values. basing itself on religion, by having a
[00:04:32] discourse on what it means to be a very entrepreneur, against
[00:04:35] the state, against taxes and against
[00:04:38] criminality, without ever having real proposals, if you pay attention, Bolsonaro's
[00:04:42] discourse, Flavio Bolsonaro's, it was neither
[00:04:46] to claim his father's record, because it is catastrophic, so he was careful
[00:04:50] not to do it, nor to put forward truly
[00:04:53] real measures, no measures on any of these subjects, so I'm going to be very hard
[00:04:57] against criminality,
[00:04:58] who had just legitimately defeated him in the how by establishing large large prisons like they did in El Salvador,
[00:05:02] Salvador is a tiny country, it makes no sense to reestablish that in Brazil,
[00:05:05] obviously, the problem in Brazil is profound, but it
[00:05:08] is, it's not going to be stopped like that, and he plays he has... normally
[00:05:12] played on an anti-PTism and an anti-Lulism
[00:05:16] party for the workers' party precisely uh and an
[00:05:19] anti-Lulism that is rooted in a part of the population, it's more of a
[00:05:22] rejection election than an adhesion election and the proof by the way is
[00:05:27] the election there were no Bolsonarists in the street, no one was celebrating while
[00:05:31] in 2018 they were celebrating uh they went to
[00:05:34] claim with with the t-shirt of the Seleção, I mean of the Brazilian
[00:05:38] team in the street there it's more it's an
[00:05:41] election marked by apathy,
[00:05:44] by the absence of a project, disillusionment, disillusionment and the fact that Lula
[00:05:48] never succeeded despite a mandate which is
[00:05:52] rather positive to make people dream and absence
[00:05:55] of enthusiasm, how do we react to this thunderclap on site Marine
[00:05:58] Ress, it's the home stretch in Brazil and
[00:06:02] yet here it feels like the campaign has just
[00:06:05] begun, on one side Flavio Bolsonaro boosted by his historic
[00:06:09] far-right results and who will try to recover. the votes
[00:06:13] of voters who voted for the other candidates of the right and center,
[00:06:16] and on the other side, the outgoing president Louis Inasiolo
[00:06:20] da Silva, who said he was disappointed with his results, he expected to win in the
[00:06:23] first round, even according to his campaign team, the strategy
[00:06:27] was not the right one, so it will be necessary to go out into the field, convince
[00:06:31] the voters from the working classes and laborers, while waiting
[00:06:34] until October 25, many demonstrations are planned in both
[00:06:38] camps, but especially a presidential debate, Brazilians
[00:06:42] were deprived of it in the first round, it will be the moment for the two
[00:06:45] candidates to confront their ideas, their vision of the world
[00:06:49] above all and then to debate on the substance more than on the form, it will also be necessary
[00:06:53] to convince the 33 million abstentionist
[00:06:56] voters, it's a record for more than 30 years in Brazil, where
[00:07:00] voting is nevertheless mandatory between the two candidates,
[00:07:03] Flavio Bolsonaro and Louis Sinala da Silva, only 2
[00:07:07] million votes separate them. And
[00:07:10] Flavio Bolsonaro has already registered the support of three. of the four others,
[00:07:13] candidate, Augusto Corry, Ronaldo, Cayado and then
[00:07:17] Romain Zema out of a total of a little over 5% of the votes, that puts him in a
[00:07:21] good position, in a favorite position for the second round, ah he is in a favorite position because already in the
[00:07:24] history of Brazil when you are first in the first round in general you win, ah that doesn't mean that
[00:07:28] it's impossible uh because he still has a lot of people we
[00:07:31] can go for, so you mentioned it in
[00:07:35] your correspondent mentioned it, he has 33 million Brazilians who have
[00:07:39] not voted and in particular a large part of the...
[00:07:42] elderly Brazilians who would tend to vote for Lula and
[00:07:45] they can very easily not vote because it's not mandatory for them when you're over
[00:07:49] 70 years old and he also has 7 million blank
[00:07:53] and void votes so if you add the two he still has a quarter of the electorate
[00:07:57] who did not express themselves so he
[00:08:00] actually has the possibility of changing the situation it will be
[00:08:03] difficult we see that the militants have
[00:08:07] taken to the streets which was not at all the case until then until then there was on
[00:08:11] the side of the militants of the party. if the workers of Lula had the idea well he will win, there's no need
[00:08:15] for us to go, now he has a lot of spontaneous demonstrations,
[00:08:18] students, so will it be enough, that's the
[00:08:21] question, if we look in any case at the result also in the Brazilian
[00:08:25] National Congress where senators and deputies were also elected, we can
[00:08:28] say that Bolsonaro's Liberal Party is in full
[00:08:31] swing, there was an absolute landslide, particularly in the
[00:08:34] Senate, which is frightening because now they have
[00:08:38] about thirty, a good third of the Senate, which gives them the
[00:08:41] possibility. to do a lot of things, even if Lula is elected, Lula will effectively be completely
[00:08:45] tied because of that, and that is explained by the fact that they ran a very
[00:08:49] professional election, the Liberal Party's Senate
[00:08:53] candidates for Bolsonaro were chosen 3
[00:08:56] years ago, they have been working on the ground for 3 years, on Lula's
[00:09:00] side, it was done a little at the last minute, many names were announced only in February, there
[00:09:04] was an unprofessional side to this campaign that we are paying for today, yes and
[00:09:07] then even members of the Bolsonaro clan who were candidates and who were
[00:09:13] money whose origin we know is more than obscure
[00:09:16] in fact that it is very problematic, but in a certain way now we completely
[00:09:20] forgive them, the name Bolsonaro effectively makes people vote,
[00:09:23] it's a myth as they say in a part of the population, several members of this
[00:09:27] family elected and within this family, it is therefore to the eldest son Flavio that
[00:09:31] Jair Bolsonaro passed the torch, being himself prevented by a conviction, we will
[00:09:35] come back to that, but first who exactly
[00:09:38] is Flavio Bolsonaro Dalila Gomeri, in the Bolsonaro
[00:09:41] family. I ask for the son
[00:09:44] Flavio, eldest son of Jair Bolsonaro, he looks like him like
[00:09:47] two drops of water, he is 45 years old, married,
[00:09:50] father of two daughters, he is a lawyer by training,
[00:09:54] he says he is an evangelist and attached
[00:09:57] to traditional values and tradition among the Bolsonaros, it's politics, he
[00:10:01] was elected deputy at the age
[00:10:04] of 21 for the state of Rio where he will be senator in
[00:10:08] 2018, in 2020 he joins the
[00:10:11] Liberal Party. but despite his background, he
[00:10:15] remains in the shadow of his
[00:10:17] father, nothing predestined him to
[00:10:20] follow in his footsteps, we must wait until 2025 when Jair
[00:10:24] Bolsonaro and... is sentenced to 27 hours of prison for him
[00:10:27] to anoint him as his political
[00:10:30] heir. Flavio therefore takes up the torch, he
[00:10:33] presents himself as a moderate Bolsonaro
[00:10:37] to stick to a slightly more polished image than that of
[00:10:40] his father, he avoids for example diatribes against institutions,
[00:10:44] especially justice, he had no real interest in doing so given that
[00:10:48] several corruption cases weigh on his
[00:10:51] campaign, uh his program, he focused
[00:10:55] on rampant crime in Brazil and
[00:10:58] his model is the president of El Salvador
[00:11:01] Neib Boukele, he also announces an austerity
[00:11:04] policy and a return to conservative
[00:11:07] values especially on societal issues and if he is
[00:11:11] elected, as we just said, he can count on his elected relatives
[00:11:14] senators and deputies especially to pass
[00:11:17] his famous amnesty law for his
[00:11:20] father's supporters who participated in the 2023 riots and especially to
[00:11:25] free his father currently incarcerated Lamia
[00:11:28] Waalalu, he will be able to free his father Flavio
[00:11:32] Bolsonaro, if he is elected, if he is elected undoubtedly yes, between the
[00:11:36] fact that he will have a de facto majority in the Senate and if he
[00:11:40] is in the presidency, between the pardon and the fact that he will also be able to get rid
[00:11:43] of the judges who bother him in the Supreme Court, having the majority in the Senate,
[00:11:46] he will be able to free him, so years in prison nevertheless
[00:11:50] for Bolsonaro, 27 years in prison and in addition to that he
[00:11:53] has the blessing of the United States which from this point of view is very
[00:11:57] important because the army in particular Brazilian
[00:12:00] needs the United States to be on the
[00:12:04] side of the coup plotters to be able to support all
[00:12:07] that, like his father, he is very close to the evangelical
[00:12:11] churches which have a considerable weight in Brazil, they have a
[00:12:14] considerable weight in Brazil, uh more than 30% of the population
[00:12:18] is now evangelical, but above all very
[00:12:21] quickly, well over the last 10 years, evangelicals have been. very
[00:12:25] linked to the very conservative party to
[00:12:28] Bolsonaro, with a network of pastors who are
[00:12:31] themselves great influencers on social
[00:12:34] networks, all of whom manage to have a huge impact on their vote,
[00:12:38] and on the side of the workers' party he has a great difficulty in discussing
[00:12:41] with this population, this is one of Bolsonaro's successes, it is precisely
[00:12:45] to have succeeded in putting forward societal values, as your
[00:12:49] colleagues said, and not to push these people to ask themselves the
[00:12:52] questions of how it will be day to day because you can be evangelical but you are
[00:12:55] poor evangelical, poor evangelical, you have to know that an
[00:12:59] election of Flavio Bolsonaro,
[00:13:03] campaign, will mean an increase in unemployment, it will mean a more
[00:13:06] expensive birth, it will mean an explosion of
[00:13:10] fires in the Amazon, it will mean less good
[00:13:13] health protection uh fewer workers' rights
[00:13:16] uh so
[00:13:19] Lula failed by refusing the debate among other things uh
[00:13:23] to make...
[00:13:25] Flavio Bolsonaro had to speak on all these subjects, no one told Flavio
[00:13:29] Bolsonaro, what are you going to do about the proposal to limit
[00:13:32] work to 5 days a week which is Lula's proposal who will obviously
[00:13:36] be against it, no one told him what are you going to do about the
[00:13:39] increase uh in the minimum wage which is very important
[00:13:43] because it also has an impact on retirees in
[00:13:45] Brazil as long as people are not confronted with the reality of
[00:13:49] proposals we are always in a societal discourse and this
[00:13:53] societal discourse in Brazil as in the world.
[00:13:55] it's the far right that is winning it currently, it's unfortunate, but it's a fact, and
[00:13:59] yes, and positions that are very reminiscent of Donald
[00:14:02] Trump's, and for good reason, the two families are very close, which is
[00:14:06] why an election is particularly scrutinized on the American side, Mathieu
[00:14:09] Mabin, between the Trump and Bolsonaro families, the
[00:14:13] proximity is political obviously, but also
[00:14:16] personal. Eduardo Bolsonaro, the candidate's brother
[00:14:19] installed in the United States, maintains ties with the
[00:14:23] American administration. he who accompanied Flavio to the
[00:14:27] White House last May, but beyond courtesy,
[00:14:31] obviously, for Washington, this friendship would have very concrete
[00:14:34] advantages. Getting closer to Brazil also means facilitating
[00:14:38] access to its strategic minerals to obviously reduce American
[00:14:41] dependence on China. And for Brazil, the
[00:14:44] prospect of lower taxes, this time on ethanol for
[00:14:48] example, is also an important issue. Now,
[00:14:51] it will not have escaped you. Donald Trump is not
[00:14:55] openly campaigning and for once, remains
[00:14:59] quite discreet in this second round campaign in
[00:15:02] Brazil. In fact, American pressures on Brazil in recent
[00:15:06] times have allowed Lula to position himself as a defender of national
[00:15:10] sovereignty. For the Bolsonaros, Trump's
[00:15:13] support is therefore precious, but on the strict
[00:15:16] condition that it does not become cumbersome between the two
[00:15:20] rounds.
[00:15:22] La miaou à la lou, Donald Trump does not get votes in... Brazil, the
[00:15:25] United States remains an imperialist and
[00:15:28] encroaching neighbor, there is an expression in Brazil, we say that Brazil is
[00:15:32] too big to be in anyone's backyard, so in
[00:15:35] fact there is something humiliating for Brazilians, even the most
[00:15:39] modest, to be to be seen as
[00:15:42] as Venezuela, we see what happened in Venezuela which has in fact become
[00:15:46] practically a protectorate of the United States where they literally loot
[00:15:50] where the United States literally loots resources and
[00:15:54] natural resources, we know very well that Brazil has that the
[00:15:57] United States has an eye on rare earths in particular but not only on
[00:16:01] many other sources and this desire to keep
[00:16:04] China away from Brazil, which
[00:16:08] simple afterwards because the Brazilian companies now their
[00:16:12] first uh partner is China in fact so we are not going to
[00:16:16] transform that overnight we imagine that the customs surtaxes imposed
[00:16:20] by the United States have not made Donald Trump more
[00:16:23] sympathetic in the eyes of Brazilians yet it is precisely
[00:16:27] in response to the condemnation of Jair Bolsonaro that the
[00:16:31] American president put in place these customs barriers yes then
[00:16:34] in the eyes of the vast majority of Brazilians that made
[00:16:38] Trump popular obviously and that's why now he is keeping a low profile, on
[00:16:41] the other hand it is a very clear signal for the
[00:16:44] financial powers in Brazil for the Brazilian elites and for
[00:16:48] the Brazilian army to say I am on the side of the one who stages a
[00:16:51] coup d'état I am on the side of the one who will give all his
[00:16:55] resources and a part of the Brazilians agree with that
[00:16:58] those who have a lot of money there are many who say I don't care I'll move to
[00:17:02] Miami tomorrow but for the vast majority of Brazilians it is obviously unpopular
[00:17:06] now we can't campaign. on the question of sovereignty, it's still
[00:17:10] day-to-day the daily life of Brazilians that weighs on them, the fact
[00:17:13] that people have to work two or three jobs, the fact that there is a
[00:17:18] employment, that's what is the
[00:17:22] campaign, while saying everything they have done very
[00:17:24] positively, but on the one hand over 25 years, it is still very very
[00:17:28] long, but without recognizing the daily suffering of people
[00:17:32] and and not recognizing the failure that for example on crime which is a
[00:17:35] fact, a victory. poirin of Flavio Bolsonaro would
[00:17:39] consecrate in any case the Monroe doctrine
[00:17:42] transformed since into Donro by Donald Trump by making
[00:17:45] the last great country of South America
[00:17:48] still on the left, isn't that Dalila Gomerie
[00:17:52] a real blue wave that we have been witnessing
[00:17:55] since 2022 out of 19 Latin
[00:17:59] American countries, 12 have shifted to the right or even the far
[00:18:02] right, their common point is a rejection of traditional parties
[00:18:06] of very polarized societies that
[00:18:10] adhere to a radicalized political discourse
[00:18:13] with a return of conservative ideas and all this also comes
[00:18:17] at a time when several countries in the
[00:18:20] region are renewing their ruling elites
[00:18:23] and where populist parties are surfing precisely
[00:18:26] right-wing populist parties are surfing on the left's failure in the face of the
[00:18:30] economic crisis or in the face of crime, the
[00:18:32] shift very much to the right we saw with
[00:18:36] Javier Miley. in Argentina, it is
[00:18:39] the example to follow for many Latin American countries, moreover he
[00:18:43] dreams of being a leader of the right in Latin
[00:18:46] America, he seeks to impose himself as a figurehead of this
[00:18:50] blue wave that is sweeping the continent, uh Javier Milet
[00:18:53] supports all right-wing populist candidates, we saw it with Flavio
[00:18:57] Bolsonaro with whom he launched his
[00:19:01] campaign by the way because he hopes to see Brazil
[00:19:05] also shift and join. ultimately the
[00:19:08] shield of the Americas so dear to Donald Trump,
[00:19:12] a victory for Flavio Bolsonaro would be a strategic,
[00:19:15] ideological victory for Donald Trump, because Brazil,
[00:19:19] as we know, is the largest country in Latin America, it is also the first economic power on the
[00:19:23] continent, and it is above all the last bastion against the
[00:19:26] Monroe doctrine, which allows the
[00:19:29] United States to why not keep its
[00:19:33] Latin American sphere of influence, especially to
[00:19:38] influence of China. La miaou à la lou, you were telling us just now about
[00:19:41] Brazilians jealous of their sovereignty, yet
[00:19:45] displaying oneself alongside the enemy brother from Argentina, who moreover
[00:19:48] is embodied by Javier Milley, a figure hated by a whole part of
[00:19:51] Brazilians. Is it not still risky, plus Donald Trump
[00:19:55] anyway? I think that for again, the majority of people who
[00:19:59] vote do not have these images in mind, so you have to see, it is a country of
[00:20:02] 220, 230 million inhabitants, it is 16 times France, people are very
[00:20:06] poorly informed. everything goes through loops, whatsapp, uh,
[00:20:09] instagram and others, so this is more a sign for
[00:20:13] the United States, for uh between diplomats, for everyone to choose
[00:20:17] their side, more than truly for
[00:20:19] the population, this political interest uh, for
[00:20:23] Brazil, is not disinterested with Donald Trump, we heard Mathieu Mabin, uh, he
[00:20:27] also has today, a bit like Venezuela, the desire uh, to
[00:20:31] shamelessly defend the economic interests of the United States, starting
[00:20:34] with of course, the minerals, the strategic
[00:20:38] resources that Brazil abounds in, yes exactly, that's what we said, that is to say that the
[00:20:41] cost will be very high for Brazilians if Flavio wins because
[00:20:45] the support that Donald Trump gave
[00:20:48] and which is real. he had
[00:20:52] money given to all groups for example who attack the Supreme Court, it's not
[00:20:56] nothing, officially, this support
[00:20:59] he will want something in return and the
[00:21:02] probable weakness of the quality of the people who will be around Flavio
[00:21:05] Bolsonaro will make him even more dependent on the United States, there will also be a
[00:21:09] cost for the environment, deforestation, we imagine in the Amazon, huge cost for
[00:21:12] the environment and that is irreversible,
[00:21:16] under the Lula years it collapsed but what was burned is burned.
[00:21:20] and it's a problem, we often say that it's the lung of the world which supports
[00:21:24] Brazilians because we give them a responsibility they don't want to have, but
[00:21:27] it's still true, it's the lung of the world so if we shift there but
[00:21:31] all this is a logic of after me the deluge and then of we are
[00:21:35] a caste in truth of very very rich people, we settle in
[00:21:39] Patagonia we settle in Miami, we settle here and
[00:21:42] there, the world can burn, uh we can have
[00:21:46] droughts everywhere, it's not very serious, what is serious
[00:21:49] is that... those who will suffer the most vulnerable today do not understand it and
[00:21:53] vote for these people. the environment is a
[00:21:56] issue on which the outgoing president's record is contrasted with a spectacular
[00:22:00] drop in deforestation, but concessions made to agribusiness in the
[00:22:03] oil sector. Lula also has results in the reduction of
[00:22:07] unemployment and the fight against poverty, but Brazil remains deeply
[00:22:11] unequal. among the poorest, many did not vote.
[00:22:13] voter.
[00:22:17] tant credo Neves, the largest favela in the state... of
[00:22:20] Bahia at the gates of the capital Salvador, it's in these
[00:22:24] maze-like alleys that Maria das Graças, 61
[00:22:27] years old, has lived for over 25
[00:22:29] years, in this house that is barely
[00:22:33] standing. Her fridge has just
[00:22:37] broken down. "I put the food in this bucket while
[00:22:40] waiting, barely enough to survive." And yet, if
[00:22:44] this former recycler manages to have a roof over her head and food each
[00:22:48] month, it's thanks to an allowance...
[00:22:58] 120 euros per month, and for a few months now, the
[00:23:01] right to a free gas bottle, a small
[00:23:05] miracle for Maria.
[00:23:08] "As long as I can remember, I have voted for Lula all my life. If I didn't have
[00:23:11] all this, I wouldn't have the strength to work anymore, so what would
[00:23:15] become of me?" Despite a record drop in extreme
[00:23:19] poverty,
[00:23:50] to vote, I am
[00:23:51] undecided.
[00:23:54] To be honest, I don't know who to trust anymore. In recent weeks,
[00:23:58] the far-right candidate Flavio Bolsonaro has multiplied his
[00:24:01] travels in the north to court this disappointed electorate. Lula
[00:24:05] still maintains a considerable lead in
[00:24:08] Bahia.
[00:24:11] La Mialou, 21% of voters did not go to the polls,
[00:24:15] yet voting is mandatory in Brazil. There are those disappointed with the Workers'
[00:24:18] Party to mobilize for the second round. Yes, no doubt, because we have never had such
[00:24:22] a proportion, uh, after all, not everyone
[00:24:26] will go to vote, and a part could also be
[00:24:29] interested in Flavio because he has an effect, uh, in
[00:24:32] particular in Brazil, of being with the one who wins. So the fact that the polls put
[00:24:36] him in the lead, the fact that he won so many governorships,
[00:24:39] senators, deputies plays in his favor. Now, indeed,
[00:24:43] he has, for this particular population, the most
[00:24:46] vulnerable, to make them understand, as it happened in other elections. Difficult
[00:24:50] in Brazil for Lula in 2006 or 2014 for
[00:24:53] Dilma, perhaps I'm not making you dream, but this is what you will lose, and
[00:24:57] they have a lot to lose with Flavio, they have a lot to lose in terms of social policy because
[00:25:01] they already saw it with his father, they have a lot to lose in terms of access
[00:25:05] to medication, in terms of access to university, equality between
[00:25:08] black and white, well, the indigenous people, let's not even talk about them, who are
[00:25:12] completely second-class citizens, exactly second-class citizens in
[00:25:16] Bolsonaro's vision, so to make
[00:25:19] them understand... okay, I don't make, this president doesn't
[00:25:23] make people dream anymore, maybe it was too long, as you said at the beginning, is it perhaps one election
[00:25:26] too many? Now, Mr.
[00:25:29] Bolsonaro, the cost for these people will be
[00:25:33] gigantic, that's what's most dramatic, and if
[00:25:36] today it's Flavio Bolsonaro who threatens to dislodge Lula from the
[00:25:40] Palácio do Planalto, it's because his father, Jair
[00:25:43] Bolsonaro, tried 3 years ago to overthrow by force the one
[00:25:48] presidential election. A look back at these events in
[00:25:51] pictures.
[00:25:54] A surreal scene, euphoric Brazilian protesters
[00:25:57] occupy the federal Senate and sing the national
[00:26:00] anthem.
[00:26:02] Supporters of former president Jair Bolsonaro break down the doors of the
[00:26:06] Congress, entering the main seats of
[00:26:09] power. In a few hours, everything is ransacked, including here in
[00:26:13] the presidential palace. It is 2 PM in Brazil, when the
[00:26:17] crowd heads for the Three Powers Square. This is where the
[00:26:21] National Congress, the Supreme Court, and the presidential
[00:26:24] palace are located. The esplanade is blocked off, but the
[00:26:27] protesters easily force their way through the police
[00:26:29] barriers. In a few minutes, they reach the
[00:26:33] heart of Brazilian power. The protesters still refuse to
[00:26:37] recognize Jair Bolsonaro's defeat in the last
[00:26:41] presidential election. "We don't think the elections were
[00:26:44] democratic. There are several indications of fraud, of
[00:26:48] corruption."
[00:26:50] A few hundred Bolsonarists enter the seats of
[00:26:54] power, with no apparent
[00:26:57] enforcement.
[00:27:00] We have to wait until around 5 PM for the riot police to start
[00:27:04] taking things back in hand. "We believe there was
[00:27:07] a lack of security, and I want to tell you that all those who did this will be
[00:27:11] found." In the evening, law enforcement
[00:27:15] drives out the last supporters of Jair Bolsonaro. Several hundred
[00:27:19] people are arrested. Brazil wonders if it has experienced
[00:27:22] an organized coup attempt.
[00:27:24] There is a risk for Brazilian democracy
[00:27:28] in case of the election of Flavio Bolsonaro.
[00:27:31] A return perhaps to a military dictatorship as Brazil
[00:27:35] experienced for nearly 40
[00:27:39] Jair Bolsonaro himself openly expresses nostalgia, not
[00:27:43] for a return to military dictatorship, but in any case, for a return to
[00:27:47] very, very harsh authoritarian policies claimed and put forward, with
[00:27:51] this time, in addition to the previous mandate, the support of a much stronger Congress, much more on their side, and
[00:27:54] above all, no longer having the safeguard that was democratic
[00:27:58] United States. So now they have the support, on the contrary, of pro-coup
[00:28:02] Trump. and pro-authoritarian
[00:30:07] We are still together on France 24, headlining news from around
[00:30:10] the world. At least 12 dead and more than
[00:30:14] the attack against Riyadh airport yesterday Saturday.
[00:30:18] It is attributed to Houthi rebels by Saudi authorities. This
[00:30:21] Sunday, pro-Iranian fighters warn travelers not to
[00:30:25] use Saudi airports.
[00:30:28] Headlining in India, the leaders of the Kafa movement released.
[00:30:32] They had been arrested the day before, ahead of a demonstration in New
[00:30:35] Delhi. The organizers call for continuing the protest in the streets.
[00:30:52] This is the deadliest attack committed in Saudi Arabia in over 10
[00:30:56] years. At least 12 people were killed, 309.