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[00:00:00] Freedom, equality, [00:00:01] of the hybrid attacks and attributing [00:00:02] current affairs, [00:00:08] you are still watching the essentials on France 24, we're going further now with Marc Cemot, [00:00:11] a contributor to the weekly magazine Challenge and the newspaper Le Monde, hello Marc, hello and [00:00:15] Bruno Darou international columnist, [00:00:19] on the question of he was a correspondent in London, for France 24, international columnist, hello [00:00:23] Bruno, hello, on the agenda, NATO seeks to deter [00:00:27] Russia, any attack will be in vain on its main [00:00:30] military base, an American general at a time when Donald Trump shows him new [00:00:34] signs of rapprochement with the Kremlin to the detriment of Ukraine. [00:00:38] Saudi Arabia admits to being put to the test by the Houthi strikes. Yemeni [00:00:41] rebels are multiplying deadly attacks against Riyadh International Airport, [00:00:45] it will remain closed until the end of the week while maritime access for [00:00:49] Saudi ships is already blocked. That's right away, we're going further. [00:00:52] They are both American, [00:01:06] known. but the comparison stops there between the Supreme Commander of NATO forces [00:01:10] and Donald Trump, where the President of the United States, [00:01:13] Xichin rehabilitated [00:01:16] the complete closure of Russia on the international scene, American General [00:01:19] Alexus Grenkovic, he gave one of the clearest [00:01:23] warnings recently from a Western [00:01:30] have been treated in Victory is simple, we will block the initial attack, if the attack continues, we [00:01:34] will contain it and prevent the enemy from advancing, and if [00:01:38] necessary, we will break the enemy forces as well as the operational combat system [00:01:42] they deploy against us. To create [00:01:45] a barrier, our ground forces will deploy to [00:01:48] neutralize any enemy offensive at the point of contact. Through [00:01:52] maneuvers, we will immobilize enemy formations and prevent the taking of [00:01:55] alliance territory. Ground forces will attack the enemy and [00:01:59] destroy these advancing forces, but they will not act alone, our air [00:02:03] and naval forces, acting in concert with our spatial and [00:02:06] cybernetic forces, will quickly gain freedom of [00:02:10] maneuver, once air and maritime superiority is quickly [00:02:13] assured, in and above the combat space, these forces [00:02:17] will deploy their power and precision, thus preventing the enemy from holding its [00:02:21] positions. [00:02:23] This speech, it's worth all the Article 5s, the famous solidarity [00:02:27] the hegemonic position of between NATO member states, yes and no, yes in the sense that it says [00:02:32] challenge the hegemonic position of things very clearly, no because [00:02:34] since the United States is the main member of as he himself admits, the ultimate decision belongs to politicians, so [00:02:37] Supreme Commander of NATO forces, indeed it is a speech that is extremely well calibrated with regard to [00:02:40] what is implicitly the most probable scenario which is not a [00:02:43] strategic war with intercontinental missiles but that of a limited [00:02:47] attack by Russia on, for example, a Baltic country [00:02:50] or or or Finland with [00:02:53] indeed these three [00:02:56] phases, blockage, containment and then destruction word for word. [00:03:00] Says very precisely not to want Russia's strategic defeat, [00:03:03] implicitly we always remain below [00:03:06] the threshold of nuclear total war with intercontinental [00:03:10] missiles, we remain within a framework that [00:03:14] would be that of a conventional war of very high [00:03:18] intensity, even if indeed anything is possible, but we [00:03:21] are not in the scenario of catastrophic escalation, we are in [00:03:25] reality and that is also why this speech today [00:03:28] has even more importance. towards the allies, so he is [00:03:31] precisely on, I will finish [00:03:33] an ally because he, well, he on this point which has been much talked about [00:03:36] by President Emmanuel Macron about Russia's [00:03:40] hybrid actions, the danger of these [00:03:43] tests of Western determination which are increasingly [00:03:47] frequent, we had occasionally implicitly [00:03:50] evoked precisely to refuse escalation [00:03:54] what could be the apocalyptic scenario [00:03:57] function very well, like the and here we are in this intermediate thing where it recalls these fundamentals. [00:04:00] with even more force because he already a few months ago had mentioned [00:04:03] Kaliningrad, saying that if the [00:04:07] joining us, what you need to remember from Russians attacked the Baltic countries in 24 hours, he would take this Russian enclave [00:04:11] of Kaliningrad, which is this piece of Russian territory between Poland and the Baltic countries [00:04:15] that was the former Königsberg of Prussia. That said, [00:04:20] rapprochement with the Kremlin to the detriment of by ruling out the possibility that NATO could be the cause of the slightest escalation and by explicitly [00:04:23] ruling out the use of nuclear weapons, isn't that same [00:04:27] general weakening the position, the deterrence in fact, of the European Union towards [00:04:31] Russia? I mean, of NATO, pardon, towards Russia. No, but not entirely, because he [00:04:35] says that it's not NATO that will escalate, he doesn't say [00:04:38] that if NATO [00:04:40] tomorrow is the vote in the National Assembly of does escalate, then NATO will react [00:04:43] and escalate further, in a sense, [00:04:45] it with Cécile Galoucho in half an hour in "the keys to because in fact, he's kind of in his role, he reminds us that [00:04:48] NATO is first and foremost a defensive alliance whose purpose is not [00:04:53] forget, it's that this Red Sea to attack such and such territory, especially [00:04:56] Russia, so escalation is not for them, but [00:04:59] well, his whole point is to say that it's better if [00:05:02] the adversary does not [00:05:05] buy energy, risk an escalation, does that seem [00:05:07] deterrent to Russia? [00:05:10] that's right, since February 2020. So far, anyway, the act of naming each [00:05:14] it to Russia was already supposed to be a [00:05:17] form of deterrence from NATO, it didn't [00:05:20] words, it didn't work, Marx these work, but then you have to [00:05:23] see in the sense that what would have happened if we hadn't [00:05:26] attributed it, besides, we remained very soft-kneed, if you'll excuse the expression, [00:05:31] attribution, on the hipsiche, it was almost [00:05:34] impossible to pretend not to have seen anything, it was [00:05:38] almost signed, given that it was also an explosive, the sex that was [00:05:41] used. Often by the services, anyway, it was all there, the Germans still took [00:05:44] several weeks, almost a month before recognizing [00:05:48] and attributing it, in France, we don't attribute, for example, for [00:05:51] now I don't know where we are, but on the Normandy TER train that [00:05:55] derailed near Cléon where a certain [00:05:58] number of drones were to be manufactured in common with Renault and the Ukrainians with [00:06:02] a 300 kg bar that had moved by itself, [00:06:06] so to speak, during the night and so [00:06:09] there are a lot of things like that where we hesitate to... [00:06:12] attribute and we could do more, so I think that this logic of putting [00:06:16] the Russians on trial for what they do [00:06:19] is necessary, Russia has declared war on us, that's also what [00:06:23] this general says in a certain way, detailing not quite that, he says [00:06:27] that Russia might be tempted to want to get there and so [00:06:31] he sends them the message that we have just heard, well then on [00:06:35] hybrid war sometimes it's also difficult to attribute for example, even if [00:06:39] we can have very strong suspicions, for example what happened today in France. [00:06:44] The fact of with the refrigerators, the refrigerators of the management [00:06:48] centers, well the management centers of the temperature [00:06:51] in several large supermarkets in [00:06:55] France, Leclerc U, yes for the System U chains [00:06:58] and for Intermarché and Intermarché, that's right, [00:07:02] and well, they were hacked, as [00:07:05] they say, which means that a lot of [00:07:09] food had to be thrown away, if you'll excuse the expression. [00:07:20] But in this case, very concretely, even if we obviously have strong suspicions, but well, it would be difficult, it's less [00:07:24] signed than the attempt to attack a bit the [00:07:27] perversity sometimes of attacks, attacking France on food, a nuclear [00:07:31] attack, no, but you see, a conventional attack, well, [00:07:35] of course it's signed, some hybrid attacks, well, it's complicated, [00:07:38] Emmanuel, with us live from Kiev. First, Emmanuel, [00:07:42] is there a reaction, are we reassured, are there any reactions simply after [00:07:46] the words of this general, [00:07:49] Alexus Jinkewich [00:07:52] today? [00:07:55] Well, listen, in any case, what we see is that the Ukrainians are reassured by the [00:07:58] reactions from the allies, whether it is the [00:08:02] general, the commander-in-chief of NATO, but also the Secretary General of NATO, [00:08:06] Marc Rutt, who spoke with Volodymyr Zelensky, the Ukrainian president also [00:08:10] spoke with the Finnish [00:08:12] president, he spoke about this truce [00:08:16] that ultimately took everyone by surprise, not only Ukraine but also [00:08:20] Russia, which absolutely did not confirm stopping its strikes and which [00:08:23] even struck a thermal power plant in Kharkiv in the [00:08:27] northeast of the country yesterday, which continued its strikes all [00:08:30] day, tonight there were two deaths in Kiev [00:08:34] here in the capital on the left bank during [00:08:37] a drone passage that crashed into a residential [00:08:41] building, so for the Ukrainians there is absolutely [00:08:45] no change following Donald Trump's thundering [00:08:49] statements, so whatever the [00:08:52] allies' statements, the Ukrainians look mainly with concern to [00:08:56] Washington because day after day they finally [00:09:00] realize that this relationship between [00:09:02] Ukraine and the United States is increasingly eroding [00:09:06] with Washington which seems definitively [00:09:09] turned to the Russian narrative regarding [00:09:13] any cessation of fighting, any ceasefire by asking [00:09:17] Volodymyr Zelensky to stop hitting [00:09:20] Russian oil refineries while we know that here [00:09:23] Russian strikes are hitting civilians, schools, [00:09:27] hospitals or even trains. who therefore does not believe in the [00:09:30] truce on energy infrastructure announced by Donald Trump this [00:09:34] weekend, do we nevertheless consider, like a number of analysts [00:09:37] here, that these may only be statements of circumstances [00:09:41] during the campaign for the midterms and that if these elections are over in the United States, [00:09:44] Donald Trump could find a position, if not of [00:09:48] closeness with Ukraine, at least a median position between Kiev and [00:09:51] Moscow? [00:09:52] Absolutely, this afternoon, [00:09:56] I was talking with residents of the [00:09:59] capital who told me that Donald Trump undoubtedly wanted [00:10:03] to gain some points for the elections in [00:10:06] his own country. In any case, on the Ukrainian side, we [00:10:09] don't really see what this announcement of a truce, which in the end is [00:10:13] not one on the ground, can bring. Volodymyr Zelensky assured that [00:10:17] last night there were no strikes on Russian energy infrastructures from [00:10:21] Ukraine. However, he has very little [00:10:25] hope that this truce will be respected [00:10:28] by Russia and so the Ukrainians are mainly preparing [00:10:32] for these next weeks, these next months which will [00:10:36] be very complicated. Here in the [00:10:38] capital there are already electricity cuts several [00:10:41] times a day, also water pumping problems, [00:10:45] heating problems which for now are not yet too severe since the temperatures are not [00:10:48] yet too low but which will only worsen in the coming weeks, [00:10:52] these coming months, thank you Emmanuel Chazont. from Kiev for France [00:10:56] 24. Marc Semo, Donald [00:10:59] Trump's position today, we know it, that of the [00:11:02] general, does it contradict, modify the American position or are these two [00:11:06] different things? What Trump said, he had already said it several times in [00:11:09] moments of tension with the Ukrainians, starting with the terrible [00:11:12] scene of humiliation in the Oval Office in February of last [00:11:16] year, last year, [00:11:19] that's right, Zelensky has no legitimacy, he [00:11:23] hasn't had elections and so on. It's recurring, at the same time, we must not forget [00:11:27] that just a month ago, this same Donald Trump signed the [00:11:30] Graham Law, Graham, which greatly tightened [00:11:34] sanctions for anyone trading with Russia and [00:11:37] spoke of and [00:11:40] planned a 100% increase in customs duties for countries that, despite [00:11:44] these sanctions, violated them and continued to trade, so this is a [00:11:48] volte-face, he is accustomed to it, it is [00:11:51] obviously dictated by an electoral agenda, we can indeed [00:11:54] have doubts about the real [00:11:58] important effects on the fall [00:12:01] in gasoline prices, but he is in the pure logic of his electoral campaign, trade [00:12:05] with Russia still he can change his mind again [00:12:09] afterwards, on the substance, beyond all that we can imagine, do the Russians somehow [00:12:13] hold Trump, etc., I won't go into that for now, there has never been any concrete [00:12:17] evidence, however, what is obvious is that the world view of Trump and this [00:12:20] administration and that of the [00:12:23] Russians is common, that is to say, it is that of great [00:12:26] states, these are the civilization states that are [00:12:30] destined to rule over zones of influence where they do [00:12:33] absolutely what they want, so there are the United States, there is Russia, there is China [00:12:37] and for Europe, for now, it does not exist and there you go, what is the position of the [00:12:41] United States today, is it the official position, is it what Donald [00:12:45] Trump expressed, Bruno Darou, or what this American [00:12:49] general just expressed, does he, by engaging NATO, also engage the [00:12:52] United States, well, yes. [00:12:56] Of course, he also engages the United States [00:12:59] NATO, but at the same time he does not express himself only as an American general, he also [00:13:03] expresses himself as the head of NATO, so from that point of view, he does not [00:13:06] represent 100% if you will, the [00:13:10] position of the United States, after indeed it may seem [00:13:13] surprising that almost at the same time these two [00:13:17] speeches from the two Donalds are so [00:13:21] different, or perhaps it's what we call a... [00:13:25] division, a distribution of roles, that's right, [00:13:27] good cop bad cop, I don't know, but indeed I agree [00:13:31] with the fact that this agreement [00:13:34] announced by Donald Trump in violation of a law he had [00:13:38] passed a month ago, which means that the United States would have to pay 100% [00:13:42] additional customs duties, and moreover that causes very tense [00:13:45] comments within Congress, including [00:13:49] among some Republican elected officials who say that you can't [00:13:52] just make this agreement. On the one hand, to abandon [00:13:58] brought up the old argument that we need to change the Ukrainian [00:14:01] president and, what's more, sometimes he sees the world as he would like [00:14:05] to see it, with the announcement of a ceasefire on both sides regarding [00:14:08] energy infrastructure, whereas neither Moscow nor Kiev were apparently aware that there [00:14:12] was a beginning of a ceasefire, so I think it's [00:14:16] indeed quite circumstantial, because what's more, from a purely economic point of view, [00:14:20] experts estimate that this agreement will not really [00:14:23] work because... Russia for the moment imports diesel [00:14:27] from Iran when it is still possible from India, a lot [00:14:30] that it needs, Russia, while the [00:14:34] United States are the top producers, so in fact they don't [00:14:37] really need it, so clearly it's an electoralist, political [00:14:41] message, he couldn't show an agreement [00:14:45] with the Iranians because that's more complicated, so well, he [00:14:48] comes out with an agreement with Putin who somehow does him a favor and [00:14:52] who in return maybe asks him [00:14:55] to hit hard again on Kiev and especially on [00:14:58] Volodymyr Zelensky and besides, and so it can change just and besides, if there's a [00:15:02] small drop in the price of diesel, that also suits us as Europeans and [00:15:06] especially France, let's be lucid, while [00:15:10] incidentally we import a large part of our diesel, [00:15:13] not necessarily at the cost of weakening Volodymyr Zelensky, in any case not seen from here [00:15:17] apparently in Europe, also because the Europeans have also [00:15:21] reacted and Scott B, the Secretary of State [00:15:25] Treasury, said, well, they're a bit swollen, the Europeans, because they continue to [00:15:30] oil and Russian gas, [00:15:35] They even calculated that since [00:15:38] February 2020, Europe had, within a few billion, [00:15:41] 230 almost on both sides, but Europe [00:15:45] had more to buy, to give [00:15:47] money in fact to Vladimir Putin to help him [00:15:51] continue his war than to give [00:15:59] mess, but it's true. Saudi [00:16:02] Arabia is cut off from the world, while its access to the Indian Ocean via [00:16:06] the straits is already blocked. Its main international [00:16:09] airport, victim of incessant attacks, forced to [00:16:12] close at least until the end of the week, missile and drone [00:16:15] strikes have killed at least 13 people, [00:16:17] Sophie Samail Saudi Arabia [00:16:21] attacked relentlessly, main target, [00:16:24] Riyadh airport targeted by two [00:16:28] attacks Saturday and Sunday, the most [00:16:31] deadly on its soil since [00:16:32] 2015, [00:16:35] the Yemeni armed forces carried out four major operations in the last [00:16:39] 24 hours, using ballistic and cruise missiles as well [00:16:42] as drones, the first operation carried out in three [00:16:45] phases, targeted King Khalid International Airport in [00:16:48] Riyadh and caused air traffic disruption and [00:16:53] the airport, on these surveillance [00:16:56] camera images, passengers at King [00:16:59] Khalid Airport in Riyadh blown [00:17:02] the explosion. Since Saturday, hundreds of injured [00:17:08] this hospital in the Saudi capital, the [00:17:11] airport itself is closed until Monday evening, the [00:17:15] strikes also hit other airports and Saudi energy [00:17:18] infrastructures located in the east of the country, [00:17:21] all of which are claimed by the Houthis of [00:17:25] Yemen. The coalition led by Saudi [00:17:28] Arabia, for its part, announced that it had shot down a [00:17:32] missile in the same area. Interception and [00:17:35] destruction of a ballistic missile launched by... [00:17:41] In the region and among allies, several leaders [00:17:44] reacted, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, [00:17:48] condemning a horrible terrorist attack, Donald [00:17:51] Trump called these strikes unacceptable, [00:17:55] indicating that he would examine a possible American [00:17:58] participation in military operations against the [00:18:01] Houthis, American participation, and do you believe [00:18:04] it, Bruno, no, not really, not really. We'll see, but [00:18:07] we know that Crown Prince MBS Mohammed Bin Salman [00:18:11] has already called Donald Trump several times, [00:18:14] asking him for real military support [00:18:18] to fight the Houthis, and [00:18:22] Donald Trump declined, well, now there were 14 [00:18:25] deaths in these attacks against Riyadh airport, so [00:18:28] the images are terrible, so Donald Trump reacts and says [00:18:32] it's unacceptable and he says again, well, I'm going to [00:18:36] think about it. I might call [00:18:38] the Crown Prince, but the truth is that the Americans have [00:18:42] no desire to get involved in this mess, [00:18:45] because already they [00:18:49] have enough with Iran, as we know it's not going very well, and [00:18:52] they know very well that somehow the Houthis are [00:18:56] doing a kind of blackmail, because when they took control of the Strait of [00:19:00] Bab-el-Mandeb almost a month ago, [00:19:03] they told the Americans, "No, but [00:19:07] we're not going to touch your interests," so Donald Trump said, "Well, [00:19:11] the Houthis told us they weren't going to attack us, so you'll see, everything will be fine," [00:19:15] and poor MBS had called, also reminding us of the [00:19:19] military cooperation agreements that exist between the United States [00:19:21] and Saudi Arabia, but Donald Trump had not moved, so I would be [00:19:25] very surprised if Donald Trump perhaps he will make some [00:19:28] gestures, reinforced logistical support, things like that, [00:19:31] but obviously no direct [00:19:34] involvement from the Americans. Saudi Arabia, [00:19:38] Ukraine, NATO, European Union, it's not good to be an ally of the [00:19:41] United States during midterm elections, especially when the president is named Donald [00:19:44] Trump, but especially for Saudi Arabia, it's still a triple [00:19:47] major failure for the Crown Prince, [00:19:51] militarily, because the support they had given to Yemeni government [00:19:54] troops was derisory, and the Houthi rebels [00:19:58] took control of Bab-el-Mandeb, the port of [00:20:01] Mocha, and everything almost without a fight, it's a strategic [00:20:05] failure, because today the Strait of Hormuz is [00:20:09] blocked, Bab-el-Mandeb is blocked, so there is only [00:20:12] the possibility through this pipeline [00:20:15] that goes to Yanbu to allow oil tankers to pass [00:20:19] towards the Suez Canal, towards the north, towards Europe, but in any case, it's not the super [00:20:23] super oil tankers that are too strong, and then above all, it's the diplomatic [00:20:26] failure, that is to say, Donald Trump [00:20:30] negotiated with the Houthis and said, "Well, we can [00:20:34] arrange it," as he had done in 2025 with the Israelis, they had accepted [00:20:37] the fait accompli, so American [00:20:40] involvement is far from certain, the [00:20:43] APEC pact between [00:20:47] Pakistan. [00:20:58] but nobody wants to go there and the Turks say we might send you some men [00:21:01] from Al-Shara, former jihadists who had [00:21:04] fought in Syria, so it's still quite terrible for someone who dreamed [00:21:08] of a Saudi Arabia that had become the main regional power or even of the Arab [00:21:11] world and who was investing massively with their Vision [00:21:15] 30 program for the post-hydrocarbon era, it's still a major issue and [00:21:18] I think there will also be consequences [00:21:20] probably internally, even if he controls the country where he is, but where [00:21:24] he still has a lot of accumulated rivalry within the royal [00:21:28] family, I think there will be repercussions, but [00:21:31] I also think that in the medium and long term, what has been happening [00:21:35] since the outbreak of the conflict with Iran regarding the relations of the [00:21:38] United States with its allies in the Gulf [00:21:41] region, in the long term it is not very good for American [00:21:45] diplomacy either, [00:21:47] since whether it is Kuwait, the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, etc., they were [00:21:51] very disappointed that the Americans did almost nothing, [00:21:55] it's the credibility, the big piece, Saudi Arabia, the [00:21:58] Americans don't budge, besides, MBS, [00:22:01] a few weeks ago, [00:22:05] had refused a flyover of his territory by [00:22:09] American planes and the use of bases because [00:22:11] he was already unhappy with what Donald Trump had done with the Houthis, [00:22:15] so yes, internally for the regime, for MBS it's [00:22:18] complicated, but for American interests in the medium term, [00:22:22] this kind of distrust from allies [00:22:25] towards them is still not very good. [00:22:28] well, what emerges is that it's better to be the [00:22:36] Iran with the memorandum [00:22:39] which generally covered the essential of their demands [00:22:42] regarding, etcetera. So, and the tools you were talking about that [00:22:46] negotiated with the Americans, [00:22:48] exception. Uh, there you go on their [00:22:51] boat. So today indeed the situation is what [00:22:55] it is at the moment precisely when Saudi Arabia must [00:22:58] prepare to host uh the [00:23:01] pilgrimage to Mecca, to Medina, you [00:23:04] say, it also has the congress on oil that is today where it has a [00:23:08] certain number of heads of state who are, you say it deals a blow to the regional influence of Saudi [00:23:12] Arabia beyond even Vision 2030, does it even challenge [00:23:17] Saudi Arabia on the peninsula? It does not [00:23:22] Saudi Arabia on the peninsula because it remains, apart [00:23:25] from Iran, [00:23:27] the main, the most populous, the richest and so on, but it's the whole [00:23:31] Gulf model today that is held [00:23:34] hostage by this war and by Iran in a certain way [00:23:37] too, yes, but we had the problem for them of the [00:23:41] doubles where he negotiates with Iran, he finds an arrangement with Iran, that's what Saudi Arabia had tried to [00:23:44] do by reconciling with [00:23:48] Iran 2 years ago. [00:23:50] Uh, there you go, or on the contrary it means building a security architecture [00:23:54] against Iran, against Iran, you have to see that taken all together [00:23:58] the Gulf powers, the petro-monarchies of the Gulf, it's still [00:24:02] substantial, they have a defense budget, that [00:24:05] of Saudi Arabia is already more important than that of France, it's at, I [00:24:09] think, 80 billion, [00:24:13] 74 billion euros, if you put them all together, they manage to [00:24:16] have armies that are not battle-hardened. They have armies that are not [00:24:20] operational, that are totally disorganized, totally separate and [00:24:24] therefore in fact they don't succeed and above all the past months have [00:24:28] proven a total lack of coordination in the response of these different countries since we didn't [00:24:32] feel at any moment that the United Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia, well, Qatar [00:24:35] was already a bit the black sheep of the region for other reasons but at no moment did [00:24:39] we feel a concerted will of [00:24:43] the GCC, the Gulf Cooperation Council, also didn't [00:24:47] Saudi Arabia-Turkey agreement. [00:24:59] When Saudi realize that in fact not much happens. So indeed, regarding put to the test of reality, well, we [00:25:04] Arabia, they indeed spend a lot of money on their military equipment but there is a problem of organization, of command or else they made [00:25:07] investments not where they should have, not calibrated for the [00:25:11] threat. They are capable of carrying out strikes, they carried out [00:25:15] about thirty strikes, but well, [00:25:18] there you go, but perhaps on the defenders. They perhaps, I don't know, the [00:25:22] only ones who have a true war culture, yes, [00:25:25] and who have a different strategy are the United Arab Emirates who are extremely close to the [00:25:29] Israelis, where the Israelis had also set up to help build an [00:25:33] Iron Dome during the war, and who for example [00:25:37] have a common view for the redistribution of cards at the regional level. There's one thing we [00:25:43] war spills over into the Horn of Africa, it spills [00:25:46] over notably into Somalia where... [00:25:50] Israel a few months ago recognized, the only country in the world, the independence of [00:25:53] Somaliland, which is a kind of oasis of relative prosperity and [00:25:57] peace in the midst of this regional chaos. The Emirates have [00:26:00] intense relations with Somaliland. [00:26:02] And the so-called president of the self- proclaimed Somaliland was at the beginning of [00:26:06] September in Washington because the Americans [00:26:09] are also thinking about that and that's where the new great game is taking place. In [00:26:13] Djibouti, a few kilometers away, we find the American base, the [00:26:17] French base and the Chinese base, the only Chinese base outside [00:26:20] Chinese territory and just next door on the Somali side [00:26:24] there's the Turkish base, also the only Turkish [00:26:27] base outside Turkish territory, so there's a new great game happening there too, thank you for letting us know. These are the [00:26:31] future, we go further with you, Mar and of course Bruno [00:26:34] Darou, thank you gentlemen, that was "we go further", we'll be back [00:26:37] in a moment, we'll continue to talk of course about this [00:26:41] news, about this attack now [00:26:45] against a principal and [00:26:47] a teacher, it happened in Aubagne near Marseille in a college, so [00:26:50] priori it has no direct connection with the high school [00:26:54] movement. [00:26:55] He is 25 years old, [00:27:03] Sierra Leone is ravaged by war, one of the most violent [00:27:06] West Africa has [00:27:09] The Kono district is a region where diamonds have been found [00:27:13] for more than a century. [00:27:15] Diamonds were sent out of [00:27:21] Sierra Leone in exchange for weapons and ammunition. Years later, [00:27:25] as the country seeks to rebuild. [00:27:28] Named peace diamond, it [00:27:35] becomes a symbol of peace. I am so [00:27:38] proud, through the peace Diamond, we see concretely what happens [00:27:41] when we give to the community, but behind the sparkle of the diamond lies [00:27:45] a darker side. These diamonds, we find them, but we [00:27:49] suffer from [00:28:03] A mutual insurer committed to forest protection for almost 100 [00:28:06] years. Groupama [00:28:09] Groupama always there for me. [00:29:10] That was the weather with Groupama, a mutual insurer [00:29:13] committed to forest protection for almost 100 years. [00:29:17] Groupama Groupama always there for me. [00:30:06] Back to basics, welcome if you're [00:30:09] the news, this Monday, first NATO trying to deter [00:30:13] Russia, any attack will be in vain on its main military chief, an [00:30:17] American general at a time when Donald Trump is showing new signs of [00:30:22] Ukraine. This new act of violence in a [00:30:26] school without apparent connection with the high school movement, a [00:30:29] 14-year-old adolescent wounds with a shotgun, the principal as [00:30:33] well as a teacher of his college in Aubagne near Marseille, before being subdued, [00:30:37] the motive for his act is unknown. And then [00:30:42] the so-called integral law against sexist and sexual violence. We will review [00:30:48] the info". Before that, we will sort through the videos that circulated to [00:30:51] illustrate the Houthi attacks of the weekend against Riyadh airport in Saudi Arabia, this [00:30:55] will be Info Intox with Anthony Saint-léger. And then in Elementary [00:30:58] Audré Racine.