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[00:00:24] Every time I listen to the news, Trump says something racist or
[00:00:27] homophobic, it's exhausting. "We were
[00:00:30] a beautiful country, now we're the country everyone laughs at,
[00:00:34] I almost take it as an insult,
[00:00:36] when someone tells me, 'Oh, you're American,' I
[00:00:40] say 'yes,'
[00:00:41] move at the speed of the business world, of
[00:00:42] Geopolitics at unfortunately,
[00:00:45] the first time Trump was elected,
[00:00:48] I had just started college, and everything was
[00:00:51] different. I had the right to my own
[00:00:55] body. It became really hard to be a woman in
[00:00:58] the United States." And from the moment a woman is forced
[00:01:02] to have a child when she could die, it's no longer a country I want to
[00:01:05] live in.
[00:01:08] This was one of Donald Trump's big battles. Since
[00:01:11] 2022, the right to abortion is no longer guaranteed in
[00:01:14] the United States, and the number of
[00:01:16] indicated, in terms of personnel, women prosecuted for pregnancy-related crimes has increased six-fold.
[00:01:20] So this summer, Emma Hensley left the
[00:01:24] Florida Sun, heading for Dublin. Leaving
[00:01:27] was an easy decision. Trump made it very
[00:01:30] easy. As soon as I
[00:01:33] defect, and then precisely arrived in Ireland, I could breathe. All that was behind me. It made me
[00:01:36] feel good. At 28, she's starting a new student
[00:01:40] life at Trinity College, the oldest Irish
[00:01:44] university.
[00:01:47] Here, American student enrollments have, on average, doubled in
[00:01:50] recent years, and more and more PhD students and
[00:01:54] professors are coming to enjoy academic freedom, now
[00:01:57] threatened in
[00:01:59] but on this fundamental question of the United States.
[00:02:03] an adherent of
[00:02:07] At the business school, many like Emma, who worked at
[00:02:10] Microsoft, fled the tech sector crisis in the United States
[00:02:14] to try their luck in Ireland.
[00:02:18] They told me, 'There's no more budget for your position, due to our
[00:02:21] investments in artificial intelligence.' It's a
[00:02:25] way of saying that AI has taken your
[00:02:27] place.
[00:02:30] Go back to school, learn to talk to the CEO. In any case, in
[00:02:33] Ireland, there are many
[00:02:35] opportunities.
[00:02:37] Opportunities, because for 20 years, Silicon Valley giants like Meta,
[00:02:41] Salesforce, Google, or
[00:02:45] Airbnb have made Dublin their European base, attracted by
[00:02:48] favorable taxation.
[00:02:51] Thanks to them, Ireland has one of the highest growth rates in the European
[00:02:55] Union. Since Donald
[00:02:58] Trump's re-election, nearly 20,000 Americans have settled on
[00:03:01] the island. For some, it's also a return
[00:03:05] to their origins, because one in 10 Americans claim
[00:03:09] Irish roots, like these tourists from
[00:03:12] Chicago. We were told about it in school, the great
[00:03:16] Dutch family. Part of my family immigrated at that
[00:03:19] time and the rest later.
[00:03:23] In County Cork, Cobh was the main port of
[00:03:27] Get a complete overview of departure. It's here that Danielle Rottman's ancestors
[00:03:30] embarked for the New World in the 30s.
[00:03:32] I feel like I've come home.
[00:03:35] this is his interpretation, the Nearly a century later,
[00:03:37] military leadership of he has just made the reverse
[00:03:40] journey. In Alaska, he was an engineer at
[00:03:43] the U.S. agency for ocean
[00:03:46] the greatest artists from protection, fisheries, and climate. In 2025, it became the target
[00:03:50] of Elon Musk, tasked by a newly re-elected Donald
[00:03:53] Trump to save the government a trillion dollars.
[00:03:56] They saw a whole lot of...
[00:04:01] naturally poses challenges of
[00:04:01] complete section of social networks according to doctors who spent their time counting fish to then tell
[00:04:05] fishermen not to catch them. For a
[00:04:08] billionaire who builds rockets and
[00:04:11] computers, all this made no sense, so he
[00:04:15] version on the show's YouTube channel. said: get rid of them.
[00:04:17] Daniel lost his job, as did half of his department. The cuts
[00:04:21] also affect weather and national parks, with serious consequences for
[00:04:27] question which is indeed this question of the environment. What Trump is doing
[00:04:31] deeply harms our country, its image in the
[00:04:34] world, its economic weight, and its
[00:04:38] foundation as a democratic
[00:04:40] republic.
[00:04:43] Forced into early retirement, he is restarting his life in the small town of Malo.
[00:04:59] So you really, bonus, I do. Oh my god.
[00:05:02] must have placed it in the box at the time of Fantastic. It's grand to see some person come from
[00:05:06] abroad and and buying the place here. Take care.
[00:05:09] Hi, nice to meet you.
[00:05:45] This is my uncle Joe and my uncle Johnny.
[00:05:49] This is my grandmother, Nora O'Connor, and this is her
[00:05:53] extreme birth.
[00:05:55] Having an Irish grandparent grants the right to nationality. So
[00:05:59] like Danielle, over 30,000 Americans have applied for passports since
[00:06:03] 2024, an unprecedented number. While waiting for her
[00:06:07] new papers, Danielle wants to integrate, and every
[00:06:10] Tuesday, she takes Gaelic language classes. Leann an cheol
[00:06:13] dríochta ag teacht go bogh bean, leis
[00:06:16] an luthaine ón airgead, so
[00:06:19] ansin
[00:06:21] amháin agus
[00:06:25] athróibh. If I must, tá,
[00:06:28] mointó.
[00:06:33] Very good. As a minion. All
[00:06:37] right, all
[00:06:38] right.
[00:06:43] he's starting to master the basics. Americans are fleeing a
[00:06:46] political situation, and we look at it with humor, I
[00:06:49] think. You're
[00:06:53] in the right place, don't worry.
[00:06:56] I think most Irish people aren't very pro-Trump.
[00:06:59] It's hard, my brain is a bit jumbled
[00:07:01] now, but it's a good thing.
[00:07:05] I love these discussions, people, creating new
[00:07:09] connections. I feel really good, so it's...
[00:07:14] Danielle's wife will join him soon. They will then
[00:07:17] only return to the United States to see their
[00:07:19] children. For others, the departure is
[00:07:23] definitive.
[00:07:25] This is the case of Ophelia, 25 years old, and her wife Zara,
[00:07:29] 23 years old, a transgender couple. Do they
[00:07:33] need to have tea?
[00:07:36] A year ago, they left everything behind to seek asylum in
[00:07:40] Ireland and are content with a pension of €38 per week
[00:07:44] each. Well, we do what we can, but it's not that bad, you
[00:07:48] see. We took canned goods.
[00:07:52] In general, we buy a lot of canned
[00:07:53] goods.
[00:07:56] Since Trump's return, the United States only recognizes two biological
[00:08:00] sexes, and the administration is multiplying measures limiting the rights
[00:08:04] of transgender people. These
[00:08:06] policies have led to an increase in violence. Zara has
[00:08:10] suffered the full brunt of it.
[00:08:43] After an initial interview, their asylum application is under
[00:08:46] review, a procedure that can take
[00:08:49] years. In case of rejection, they could be deported to the
[00:08:53] United States.
[00:08:59] We feel stuck, that's tough. We hope that one day we'll have legal
[00:09:02] status and can start
[00:09:05] working.
[00:09:08] My dream would be to go back to school because I didn't have that chance. And
[00:09:12] then to build a decent
[00:09:14] life.
[00:09:17] We'll see, but yes, we'll definitely
[00:09:19] see. Like Ophelia and Zara,
[00:09:23] 94 Americans applied for asylum in Ireland last
[00:09:26] year, an unprecedented number. In the Dublin courts, nothing has yet
[00:09:30] been decided, but for lawyer Kaal Malon, these cases could
[00:09:33] set a legal precedent that's difficult to
[00:09:35] navigate. To be honest, at first, I found it a bit
[00:09:39] crazy, but the more you look at what's happening in the United States, especially for
[00:09:43] trans people, the more you realize that, in many ways, the
[00:09:47] request is entirely
[00:09:48] legitimate.
[00:09:54] There have been huge changes at the federal level. Hospitals are
[00:09:58] threatened with budget cuts if they provide transition care, and the
[00:10:01] State Department is also getting involved by refusing to issue passports to people who do not
[00:10:05] apply with their sex at
[00:10:07] birth.
[00:10:09] If Ireland grants asylum to a whatever it may be, it's a
[00:10:13] direct criticism of that country. So when requests come to us
[00:10:16] from a country we consider a friend, we find ourselves with a diplomatic
[00:10:19] problem.
[00:10:22] A historical ally of the United States, the Irish authorities find
[00:10:25] themselves in an embarrassing situation. The Ministry of Foreign
[00:10:29] Affairs, the Ministry of Justice, and the City of Dublin all refused our interview
[00:10:33] requests. At the Irish Times, Ireland's leading
[00:10:36] daily newspaper, the reluctance of elected officials to criticize Washington is
[00:10:40] not surprising. I have a paper in Monday's
[00:10:43] newspaper. We'll find one.
[00:10:46] Patli, head of the political service, covered the American
[00:10:49] president's visit in
[00:10:51] September.
[00:11:26] I think that like many countries in the
[00:11:28] world,
[00:11:31] Ireland wants to criticize Trump's policies when
[00:11:34] necessary,
[00:11:36] but also remain on good terms with him.
[00:11:52] especially in the tech and pharmaceutical sectors, they pay a lot of taxes. Even
[00:11:58] with favorable taxation, American
[00:12:01] companies represent 75% of the corporate tax
[00:12:04] collected by Dublin. Without them, the famous Celtic
[00:12:08] Tiger would collapse.
[00:12:10] These multinationals, Emma and many American students dream of working
[00:12:14] there one day. While waiting to graduate, they
[00:12:18] are savoring a new start and following the elections
[00:12:20] closely.
[00:12:22] It will take at least 5 or 10 years to...
[00:12:55] Emma plans to settle permanently in Ireland,
[00:12:59] and she's not the only one. According to a recent survey, 20%
[00:13:02] of Americans say they want to leave the
[00:13:04] United States.
[00:13:11] RFI and France 24 present
[00:13:15] each week, our sports café experts share their analyses with you. The main championships
[00:13:18] under the microscope, the big
[00:13:22] clubs, especially Barça.
[00:13:25] Debates, rants, and serpentine tongues, and above all, African
[00:13:28] proverbs. Our perspectives, of course, on all the major
[00:13:32] competitions of the moment, without forgetting your
[00:13:35] reactions, and of course your red cards, dear
[00:13:38] listeners and internet users. Annie Gast and her team invite you
[00:13:42] to the sports café on RFI and France
[00:13:45] 24. Live 2 hours at the heart of the news
[00:13:49] with Stéphanie Antoine.
[00:14:53] In the street, it's difficult to... look up from one's screen for many
[00:14:57] young people. Almost 100% of teenagers in South Korea own
[00:15:00] a smartphone, but since last March, schools can
[00:15:04] choose to ban phones during class
[00:15:06] hours.
[00:15:10] In our high school, the rule is very precise. You have to
[00:15:13] turn off your phone before putting it away, and then you
[00:15:17] place it in the pouch corresponding to your number. In the morning,
[00:15:20] classes start at 8 AM. Before that, you are allowed to use your
[00:15:24] phone, but you absolutely
[00:15:27] roll call.
[00:15:31] Have you all put away your
[00:15:32] phones?
[00:15:35] Okay, you can take them.
[00:15:39] In this high school, the bag containing all the mobile devices of the class is deposited
[00:15:43] in the teachers' room for the day. Yumin is in
[00:15:45] first year, and she remembers the time when she could keep her phone in
[00:15:49] class. Given the choice, she prefers this complete
[00:15:52] ban.
[00:15:55] Last year, we didn't collect cell phones. It only started this
[00:15:59] year.
[00:16:01] And when I compare the classroom atmosphere between the two years, I find that it allows
[00:16:05] us to create an environment where we can concentrate better. It improves
[00:16:08] interactions with teachers. Personally,
[00:16:11] I feel like it encourages my participation in class. I'm more
[00:16:15] involved.
[00:16:20] Before, there were a lot of conflicts with students about cell phones,
[00:16:23] but now that the rules formally prohibit their
[00:16:27] use, conflict situations have clearly
[00:16:30] decreased. Students accept the fact that they have to hand over their
[00:16:34] phones, and they can't complain about receiving penalty points.
[00:16:42] On average, a high school student spends 6 hours a day on screens,
[00:16:46] a figure that worries the authorities. Faced with youth
[00:16:49] addiction, the government funds this screen detoxification center south
[00:16:53] of Seoul. It's the only one in the country. A last
[00:16:56] hope for the dozen minors who came to participate in the program, whose
[00:17:00] anonymity must be preserved. They will spend
[00:17:03] seven nights and 8 days here without any electronic
[00:17:05] device. And now I'm going to
[00:17:09] ask you to hand over your phones.
[00:17:13] The first difficult moment of the stay for these teenagers addicted to their
[00:17:17] screens is separating from their phones. During the week, the
[00:17:20] girls will follow workshops to learn how to break free from this
[00:17:23] addiction, do group activities,
[00:17:27] sports. This 17-year-old participant used to spend
[00:17:30] up to 15 hours a day on screens, with harmful
[00:17:33] consequences for her schooling and sociability.
[00:17:38] First of all, I'd like to stop using my phone excessively so that I can improve my
[00:17:40] grades at school and concentrate
[00:17:44] on my homework. Subconsciously, I realize I'm
[00:17:48] looking for my phone on me. It's really not
[00:17:50] voluntary.
[00:17:55] Dear participants, this program may make you a little nervous, but it will
[00:17:59] be okay.
[00:18:03] Each year, the government conducts a large study of children and
[00:18:06] adolescents. Among 10-19 year olds, 43% are at
[00:18:10] risk of smartphone and tablet addiction, and among 3-9 year olds,
[00:18:14] this risk already affects more than one in four
[00:18:16] children.
[00:18:19] In a constantly evolving world where media and the digital
[00:18:22] world are developing, it inevitably creates difficulties for
[00:18:25] some adolescents, but it's not just an individual problem, it's
[00:18:29] also social. That's why the state must intervene to solve
[00:18:33] these problems together. It's in this spirit that our...
[00:18:55] used her phone without moderation. I thought she didn't want to change on this
[00:18:59] subject. It was very frustrating. We often had conflicts.
[00:19:02] It was difficult for both of us, but when she asked me to send her to this camp, I
[00:19:06] realized she really had the desire to improve, and that made me
[00:19:10] very
[00:19:10] happy.
[00:19:15] South Korean teenagers use their phones to watch videos,
[00:19:18] play online games, and especially consult social networks.
[00:19:22] 70% of 10-19 year olds use them. Like in many
[00:19:26] other countries, South Korean parliamentarians want to regulate
[00:19:29] the practice. The bill introduced by this majority MP is currently
[00:19:33] under discussion.
[00:19:39] age. This would infringe on the fundamental rights of adolescents,
[00:19:43] particularly their right to information and their freedom of expression.
[00:19:46] This is why we have not proposed a total ban by age group, but
[00:19:50] we have developed a bill with a gradual application. It
[00:19:54] frames content suggestion algorithms for those under 19 and
[00:19:58] requires parents to give their consent for their children to open an account
[00:20:02] for those under 14.
[00:20:05] If, according to a recent survey,
[00:20:07] the vast majority of South Koreans approve some form of regulation, it remains
[00:20:11] to convince the main stakeholders. More than one in two
[00:20:14] adolescents are opposed to limitations.
[00:20:29] Hello and welcome to "Aux avant-poste," the show that seeks
[00:20:32] meaning in the chaos of the world: 20%
[00:20:36] of generals and admirals fired by the American
[00:20:39] Secretary of War.
[00:20:42] He's cleaning house in his army. He wants warriors, not
[00:20:46] woke people. He also wants more companies
[00:20:50] and startups working for defense to break the monopoly of
[00:20:53] sector giants. So
[00:20:56] is the American army undergoing a major
[00:21:00] reconfiguration? Well, to answer this question,
[00:21:03] I'm joined by three specialists on the subject: Didier
[00:21:07] Gros, researcher at the Foundation for Strategic Research, a
[00:21:10] think tank located in Paris; Vincent
[00:21:13] Barret, geopolitical and macroeconomic
[00:21:16] analyst, founder of Macro Insider, an
[00:21:20] independent research program on the levers of American
[00:21:23] power; and via video from London,
[00:21:27] Jonathan Guiffard, associate researcher at the French Institute of
[00:21:32] Paris 8 University. Hello to all three of you.
[00:21:35] Hello. I'd like us to start with the very strong statements
[00:21:38] from Pit X7 on the army. He said he didn't want more
[00:21:42] wimps, he didn't want more transgender people. He wants
[00:21:46] warriors. What does that mean, Didier Gros? In
[00:21:50] fact, I think that for Pitexet, his mentality is
[00:21:53] the following: he is leading a form of cultural counter-revolution.
[00:21:57] He believes that the evolution of the American armies
[00:22:00] over the last twenty years has gone, as you just
[00:22:06] the evolution of human resources, in the wrong direction according to him, and so he
[00:22:09] has personally committed himself to a form of
[00:22:13] cultural counter-revolution to change that, and indeed
[00:22:16] to move from an army he describes as woke, which is not at all the
[00:22:20] case, but that's his way of describing it, to an army of warriors, meaning
[00:22:24] to put, according to him, back at the center of priorities and
[00:22:27] problems, the fact that an army is there primarily to be
[00:22:31] engaged, to wage war, and not to engage in what
[00:22:35] he calls sociological
[00:22:37] experimentation. That's primarily it. Jonathan Guiffard from London,
[00:22:41] do you also think that it's very ideological in fact, this
[00:22:45] approach? Yes, very clearly,
[00:22:48] Pit is someone who is
[00:22:53] Donald Trump's ideology and the MAGA branch of the Republican
[00:22:56] Party. He is a very religious person who also
[00:22:59] opened an office of religious affairs within the Department of
[00:23:03] War, and so from that point of view, he advocates for an
[00:23:06] army that is, let's say, more white, more Christian,
[00:23:10] and more traditional. And I would add one point: he is someone who has
[00:23:14] military experience, which is not an incredible experience, and I
[00:23:17] think he also has a desire to put himself on display as
[00:23:21] something he is not and was not during his military career. Vincent
[00:23:25] Barret, do you also have this analysis? Yes, but besides
[00:23:28] the cultural aspect, I think he also has a form of questioning
[00:23:32] regarding the wars of intervention, especially the war in Iraq, the war in Afghanistan, and the war in
[00:23:35] Libya, how they were managed at the bureaucracy level, at
[00:23:39] the task distribution level, and so I think that besides the cultural
[00:23:42] aspect, he also wants to put the army back, as Mr.
[00:23:46] Grou said, at the center of the plan on war, on language.
[00:23:53] This is a very important point, and we had the opportunity to discuss it earlier. It's really
[00:23:57] major because we tend to have a cultural dimension that is real, I said
[00:24:00] it and I confirm it, but he also in fact
[00:24:04] Pitexet in his own way expresses a current
[00:24:07] within the American armies but also of society that blames the political
[00:24:10] and military leadership of the time for having
[00:24:14] led America into these misadventures in Iraq
[00:24:18] and Afghanistan, and for him, there are lessons to be learned. Among these
[00:24:21] lessons is the fact that, and again
[00:24:27] the time did not do what was needed, did not know how to oppose
[00:24:31] the political leadership eventually, which is not entirely true
[00:24:34] by the way. And so from there, today when he talks
[00:24:38] about firing a certain number of generals and admirals, he doesn't do
[00:24:41] it in most cases solely
[00:24:44] for an ideological
[00:24:48] pretext, he does it simply because he believes that
[00:24:52] the civilian must regain control, that there is
[00:24:55] indeed a military leadership that is too
[00:24:59] important, which has grown in number compared to the rest of the forces, which
[00:25:03] is debatable, but also because for him, lessons have not been learned
[00:25:06] from these misadventures, and so I
[00:25:10] believe this dimension is very important to consider. Jonathan Guiffard talks
[00:25:13] about misadventures, is it in the mind of a Pitexet
[00:25:17] rather defeats in Iraq? Uh, in
[00:25:21] Afghanistan, and he wants to wash away these
[00:25:23] defeats?
[00:25:25] Yes, very clearly, in the Trump administration,
[00:25:29] there is currently a framework that states that the departure from
[00:25:32] Afghanistan was humiliating, that the war
[00:25:36] in Iraq was not a success, and that he
[00:25:39] must now deal with the Iranian problem that was not dealt with by previous
[00:25:43] administrations. So indeed, I completely agree that it is a
[00:25:47] desire to stage a break from previous
[00:25:50] administrations, and it is also, I fully
[00:25:54] support what has just been said, it is also a staging of the
[00:25:57] famous fight against the state. It is a way of showing that this
[00:26:00] civilian takeover is also a way of reimposing a political
[00:26:04] choice of the American people that a supposed deep state in
[00:26:08] the army or in the intelligence services would not
[00:26:11] respect. So I would like us to listen to Pit
[00:26:15] Exech now. He will not be speaking about
[00:26:18] personnel, but rather about what he denounces as
[00:26:22] bureaucracy at the Pentagon. He spoke about it on
[00:26:25] July 15, 2026, and he
[00:26:28] addressed it directly, you will see and hear it. He addressed it
[00:26:31] directly to the President of the United States, Donald Trump. Let's
[00:26:34] listen.
[00:26:38] What you demand of me, as a leader and builder, is that we
[00:26:44] competition, of speed, and on a large
[00:26:47] scale. And that is precisely what these people have funded and created in their
[00:26:50] businesses. But our bureaucracy was designed to keep
[00:26:54] most of you out. And we are waging
[00:26:57] a war of attrition against the Pentagon bureaucracy to broaden the scope and ensure
[00:27:01] that competition, speed, innovation, and commercial
[00:27:04] solutions finally have their
[00:27:07] say. So bureaucracy, Vincent
[00:27:10] Chervet, you have studied this problem in depth.
[00:27:14] Indeed, today, Pitiksen is truly
[00:27:17] the face of this transformation within the American defense manufacturing
[00:27:21] base. Today, it is not just about producing highly
[00:27:25] sophisticated weapons, but also about producing them in large quantities, at a lower
[00:27:29] cost, in short cycles, and by accepting that the product is not perfect,
[00:27:33] by accepting the risk of
[00:27:36] improving it over time. Today, many companies are examples
[00:27:39] and the company that somewhat embodied this at the beginning is SpaceX, particularly for the
[00:27:43] launch of civilian and military satellites. Yes, it's not by chance that
[00:27:47] in the Meridian project, axect
[00:27:50] partly gave Elon Musk some thought on this question, yes on this question.
[00:27:54] It's very interesting because obviously we focus on the words, the content of the words, often from
[00:27:58] fiery speeches and so on,
[00:28:01] modernity, the adaptation of the American forces, he is part of a form of
[00:28:05] continuity since previous administrations have already worked
[00:28:08] for about ten years on these issues, we will perhaps
[00:28:12] have the opportunity to come back to it, and at the same time a form of rupture because he wants something
[00:28:16] that truly transforms the way the Pentagon bureaucracy
[00:28:20] operates, this bureaucracy, I spent 6 years working directly
[00:28:24] with the Pentagon, I can talk about it, it is real and the Americans
[00:28:27] themselves, the officers within the Pentagon complain about it, so it's a
[00:28:30] reality, the Pentagon has become a gigantic
[00:28:34] extraordinarily heavy machine, extraordinarily heavy, certainly performing in many
[00:28:37] areas but extraordinarily heavy, that's a fact, and so he wants to take advantage of it
[00:28:41] to introduce this rupture in the history of the
[00:28:44] Pentagon and above all accelerate things in the field and that
[00:28:48] is his great reform which is a reform that concerned the acquisition of
[00:28:51] equipment, and this reform had actually been conceived and intended by one of
[00:28:55] his predecessors, Donald, so more than
[00:28:58] 20 years ago he couldn't see it through.
[00:29:01] Obviously we know why but today we are in a
[00:29:05] very favorable situation for the current administration and for others in fact, and the one that
[00:29:08] preceded it too, meaning that now technologies are
[00:29:12] available to achieve it and that and that's very important.
[00:29:15] So that's his ambition and this ambition is actually
[00:29:18] supported by most experts in the field.
[00:29:21] Jonathan Guiffard, you also know the Pentagon
[00:29:25] well, you spent a lot of time in Washington.
[00:29:29] Would you also say that this bureaucracy of the
[00:29:32] Pentagon has hindered the innovation of the American
[00:29:36] army?
[00:29:38] Well, I would say several things. The first is that you have to keep
[00:29:42] in mind that this is also a problem that exists in Europe, that's what's interesting, it's that in fact
[00:29:46] it's not actually a pet problem except, it's a problem for many
[00:29:49] democracies currently. Then yes, it is
[00:29:52] indeed the American army is a number of
[00:29:56] people that is still gigantic and therefore an associated
[00:29:59] bureaucracy that is indeed very important and therefore...
[00:30:03] slowness, of difficulty in scaling up, but you also have a
[00:30:07] long-term problem somewhere, meaning that globally up until
[00:30:11] the 90s, defense innovation was done under direct control
[00:30:15] in companies that are used to working with the Pentagon, whereas
[00:30:18] today a large part of this innovation
[00:30:22] is in startups, it's very technological so it's in the private
[00:30:26] sector and so I ask you another
[00:30:29] acquisition, how to accelerate this...
[00:30:33] in fact for 70 years you have had somewhat classic but somewhat
[00:30:37] slow contracting
[00:30:39] processes with very large companies, how do you do today
[00:30:43] to capture all these small technologies in all these small
[00:30:46] startups? So I would like to, I will give you the floor,
[00:30:50] I would first like us to look at some figures. I
[00:30:54] put the ranking of the biggest defense budgets,
[00:30:57] the 10 biggest, so you will see.