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[00:00:00] Freedom, equality, news.
[00:00:15] Hello and welcome to a one-on-one on France 24, our
[00:00:19] guest is Ehud Barak, former prime minister
[00:00:22] of Israel. He joins us from Tel Aviv. Thank you very much, Mr. Barak, for being
[00:00:26] us. Thank you. The
[00:00:30] election results are in. The coalition led by Prime
[00:00:34] Minister Benjamin Netanyahu came in first with 53 seats,
[00:00:38] 15 fewer than in the previous Knesset. The opposition platform led by former Chief
[00:00:42] of Staff Gady Eisenkott
[00:00:45] won 48 seats, and two Arab lists
[00:00:48] won 19 seats, a
[00:00:51] record. The election was largely seen as a referendum on
[00:00:55] Netanyahu, who is still supported by
[00:00:59] a good number of Israelis. What do
[00:01:02] you think? How do you explain
[00:01:03] by visiting the beautiful region of this? First of all,
[00:01:07] I would like to make a comment on the election
[00:01:09] results. In the current
[00:01:12] government, Netanyahu has the
[00:01:15] support of 68 Knesset members.
[00:01:19] 52 members are against him. This time, it's
[00:01:23] the opposite.
[00:01:26] He has 67 members against him and only
[00:01:30] 53 in his favor. If we
[00:01:33] compare these results to a French system,
[00:01:36] Eisenkot would have
[00:01:39] won.
[00:01:42] It's only if we ignore, for one reason or another,
[00:01:45] the Arab parties
[00:01:48] that Netanyahu can win, but they are Israeli
[00:01:52] citizens, they have the right to vote.
[00:01:55] The Declaration of Independence promises them
[00:01:59] representation within all institutions
[00:02:02] according to their size in the
[00:02:04] country, so this presentation is
[00:02:08] misleading. Netanyahu did not win, he lost by
[00:02:11] far, but on the other hand, the change bloc led by
[00:02:14] Eisenkot won.
[00:02:18] But Netanyahu managed to delegitimize the Arab
[00:02:21] vote. If he was
[00:02:24] consistent with his past position, he could have taken
[00:02:27] it seriously, but no. Let's think about what
[00:02:31] Netanyahu would have done if it had been the opposite.
[00:02:35] Mansour Abbas, who leads the
[00:02:38] got infected. My general practitioner small Arab party of 8 deputies,
[00:02:42] stated that Netanyahu had invited him three
[00:02:45] times to his residence
[00:02:48] in the past to convince him to form an alliance with
[00:02:52] him. I have known Netanyahu for a very long time,
[00:02:56] for decades. I tell you one thing.
[00:03:02] Today,
[00:03:06] They are undoubtedly involved at all levels of Netanyahu could immediately invite Mansour Abbas, offer him the position of Minister of
[00:03:09] Interior in a government or accede
[00:03:13] to his demands. He could invite the leader of the other
[00:03:17] party, Ahmed Tibi, make him Minister of
[00:03:20] Health,
[00:03:24] and he would completely ignore the criticisms that could be leveled
[00:03:28] against him, the same criticisms.
[00:03:30] talk about integrating Arabs into Israeli politics, but I do it, I act, and he wouldn't have the slightest
[00:04:00] You... you keep an eye on it like cognitive dissonance, he only does what suits him and Eisenkot
[00:04:06] should do the same thing.
[00:04:08] Yes, but the problem is that Eisenkot
[00:04:11] himself and his allies, except for the
[00:04:15] leader of the Democratic Party, Mr.
[00:04:19] Golan, have declared, "We
[00:04:21] slots the day before for the will not form a coalition with the
[00:04:24] Arab parties." So what to do, change his mind
[00:04:27] or simply stick to his initial
[00:04:30] position? But of course he can change
[00:04:34] his mind. This is, moreover, in Israeli
[00:04:37] culture. What I said is undoubtedly
[00:04:41] a bit too detailed for the French
[00:04:44] viewer, but if Netanyahu had been in the same situation as
[00:04:48] Eisenkot, he would not have hesitated for a single second to go back on his
[00:04:52] promises. Moreover, for 4 or 5 years
[00:04:55] now, there have been many elections,
[00:04:58] too many in Israel. But every time, he has changed
[00:05:01] his mind. Once I was asked to
[00:05:05] define in one sentence the difference between Eisenkot and
[00:05:08] Netanyahu, two men I have known for decades. I
[00:05:12] said: Eisenkot cannot lie, he
[00:05:16] is physically incapable of it, he will start to
[00:05:19] sweat and stutter. Netanyahu, on the other hand,
[00:05:23] cannot tell the truth, he lies as he
[00:05:26] breathes, he doesn't pay at restaurants when he
[00:05:30] goes, he changes his political position all the
[00:05:32] time.
[00:05:35] You have to know who your rival is. If it's
[00:05:39] Netanyahu, what do promises matter?
[00:05:43] Go back on your promises, as Netanyahu would
[00:05:47] have done.
[00:05:50] Mr. Barak, we have heard allegations
[00:05:54] of potential foreign funding of Arab parties.
[00:05:58] An investigation has been launched by the Shin Bet. Qatar
[00:06:01] has been accused, but firmly rejects these
[00:06:04] accusations, as has the electoral commission.
[00:06:08] But the Netanyahu camp claims this proves that the election was...
[00:06:17] That's a very good question,
[00:06:21] but what good can the Qataris do, who have
[00:06:24] active agents, who work for them, who
[00:06:27] are paid within the inner circle of
[00:06:31] Netanyahu's collaborators, who work
[00:06:34] during a war, and during this time who
[00:06:37] are paid by
[00:06:38] Qatar?
[00:06:44] Israel's secrets leak them
[00:06:48] to Bild, the German newspaper, to
[00:06:50] influence the perception of Netanyahu,
[00:06:54] Israel, their behavior, and Qatar compared to other countries like
[00:06:57] Egypt,
[00:07:00] so why would he want to help Netanyahu's
[00:07:03] opponents? The most likely
[00:07:06] explanation could be
[00:07:09] this, because there is a contradiction.
[00:07:22] of his close collaborators, who are paid by them, that Netanyahu will be
[00:07:24] helped if he leaves
[00:07:28] traces indicating that the
[00:07:31] Arab parties
[00:07:34] support the change bloc. By
[00:07:37] doing so, he kills two birds with one stone. First of
[00:07:41] all, he disrupts Arab
[00:07:44] participation. He can say that the election
[00:07:48] was rigged. On the other
[00:07:51] hand,
[00:07:54] he can blame others. In
[00:07:58] Israel, this is called
[00:07:59] Qatargate.
[00:08:03] Netanyahu has his closest collaborators working
[00:08:07] for the enemy, but he can say, "No, no,
[00:08:10] no." "They don't work for
[00:08:14] me.
[00:08:18] Israeli politics to disrupt the situation, but these are fake
[00:08:22] news." The real
[00:08:26] suspect
[00:08:28] should be Netanyahu's collaborators and government.
[00:08:32] Several reports warn that Netanyahu might strike Iran just before
[00:08:36] the election. This could also happen
[00:08:39] after the American mid-term elections. Is this
[00:08:43] threat serious and what could be the impact on the next
[00:08:46] government?
[00:08:51] When I started answering interviews in
[00:08:53] Israel,
[00:08:56] I said that Netanyahu is a desperate, trapped
[00:08:59] animal, ready to do anything to stay in
[00:09:02] power,
[00:09:05] to overcome the criticisms against him. I raised
[00:09:09] the idea that Netanyahu would even...
[00:09:28] "How can you dare to think that? But now everyone is
[00:09:32] talking about it. Netanyahu is ready to
[00:09:34] do it.
[00:09:38] It has nothing to do with Israeli national
[00:09:41] interest against the Iranian nuclear
[00:09:43] program. There is not the slightest
[00:09:46] information making an
[00:09:50] immediate attack against Iran
[00:09:53] necessary.
[00:09:56] Nothing prevents us from delaying any
[00:10:00] decision by 2 to 6
[00:10:03] weeks, until a new
[00:10:06] government, responsible and not
[00:10:09] biased by personal interests, comes to power,
[00:10:13] motivated only by the nation's interest, and
[00:10:16] decides if it's necessary or not. In
[00:10:19] addition, Netanyahu says
[00:10:21] now that he can change the regime.
[00:10:25] Probably, the previous attacks last
[00:10:29] February had precisely this objective,
[00:10:32] a 40-day attack to change the Iranian
[00:10:35] regime within the
[00:10:38] new framework described by
[00:10:42] Trump, and now Trump says, after the
[00:10:46] midterms, that he will help Israel in a very
[00:10:49] brief campaign to overthrow the regime, but that's
[00:10:53] ridiculous. It didn't happen in Vietnam, in
[00:10:57] Iraq, in Afghanistan, or anywhere
[00:11:00] else in the world. This reflects the
[00:11:03] illusions of people who need it for their political interests. It has
[00:11:07] nothing to do with reality, and Netanyahu plays this game
[00:11:10] fully. He says there could be a miscalculation
[00:11:14] on the part of the Iranians. The
[00:11:17] Iranians are fierce rivals and not
[00:11:20] stupid. They fully understand that
[00:11:23] any war against Israel and the
[00:11:27] United States benefits
[00:11:30] Netanyahu. He can
[00:11:33] delay the formation of a new
[00:11:36] government, and it also helps
[00:11:40] Trump. The Iranians have no
[00:11:44] interest in starting a war. Any
[00:11:47] statement by Netanyahu saying that he has
[00:11:51] information that could make one believe,
[00:11:55] or not, that the
[00:11:57] Iranians are planning something, these are fake news, it has nothing to do with
[00:12:01] reality. Ehud Barak, thank you very much for answering the questions
[00:12:04] of France 24 and thank you for following this edition of tête-à-tête
[00:12:08] on our channels.
[00:12:34] Long waiting times and patients
[00:12:37] trying everything to get an appointment. I left
[00:12:41] at 4:30 in the morning to be there at 6:00. I have 120, 130
[00:12:44] km to travel. With three dermatologists per 100,000
[00:12:48] inhabitants, France is experiencing an unprecedented shortage of
[00:12:51] specialists. It's just that there aren't enough of us
[00:12:55] to be able to take care of all the patients who need it.
[00:12:59] Carcinoma, cutaneous melanoma, 200,000 new
[00:13:02] cancers are detected every year. For me, it was
[00:13:06] impossible, and when you're 28, you don't expect this type of
[00:13:09] diagnosis at all. While needs continue
[00:13:12] to increase, how can we deal with the shortage of
[00:13:15] caregivers?
[00:13:49] And this dermatologist's office is already packed.
[00:13:51] craquer.
[00:13:55] Mr. Frédo, hello. Jean-François is going to have
[00:13:58] a cutaneous melanoma removed. Are you doing well?
[00:14:01] Thank you, please have a seat. A particularly serious skin
[00:14:04] cancer if not treated
[00:14:07] quickly. In dermoscopy, which is the magnifying glass we have here,
[00:14:10] there are different criteria that should alert us. You have small circles
[00:14:14] there, you have small lines here. With
[00:14:18] time, this cancer crosses the epidermis and can
[00:14:21] spread to the rest of the body.
[00:14:25] a hawk. Tell me if you feel
[00:14:28] anything, even a tiny bit. We
[00:14:31] remove the
[00:14:32] melanoma
[00:14:35] and send it for analysis, and then we'll see Mr.
[00:14:39] Frenot in 15 days. To be able
[00:14:41] to treat this type of emergency, Doctor Prudhomme opens his
[00:14:46] next day. No, I had already operated on him in the melago. When I open at
[00:14:49] 6 p.m., a day fills up in 3 minutes. So, in fact, what I often said is that we
[00:14:53] could open 10 such descents in the street, uh, we would still
[00:14:57] fill up just as much. The shortage is huge.
[00:15:00] So, Mr. Frénot, safe travels, be careful on the road. With three
[00:15:03] dermatologists per 100,000 inhabitants and entire
[00:15:06] departments without specialists, getting an
[00:15:09] appointment takes an average of 6
[00:15:11] months.
[00:15:14] Doctor Pierre Haman advocates for increasing the numerus clausus,
[00:15:18] in other words, the number of residents trained each
[00:15:20] year. It's only been a short time and so
[00:15:25] only about ten years that the numerus
[00:15:28] clausus has been increasing quite significantly, except that
[00:15:31] dermatology, unlike all other specialties, has not
[00:15:34] benefited as much from the percentages of
[00:15:37] increase. There is incredible pressure on
[00:15:41] appointments, with patients who
[00:15:44] have been looking for a long time, who are in therapeutic
[00:15:47] wandering, who may also have feelings about their care
[00:15:51] journey. I'm going to prick you there, okay, breathe really hard through
[00:15:55] your mouth. This workforce is likely to decrease
[00:15:58] even further, as 50% of dermatologists are over
[00:16:02] 60 years old. These latter are also accused of exacerbating
[00:16:06] the shortage by privatizing more lucrative aesthetic
[00:16:09] treatments. I'm putting a small bandage on you and then you're free. This
[00:16:12] is completely false. There are several studies,
[00:16:15] including independent studies from the profession, that
[00:16:19] show that in reality it's less than 5% of our
[00:16:22] activity over the whole year. It's just that there aren't enough of us to
[00:16:26] be able to take care of all the patients who need
[00:16:29] it. Come on, Mr. Gayo, we'll go soon.
[00:16:33] To address this shortage, the profession has taken the lead,
[00:16:37] notably
[00:16:41] Labri. This patient was able to be treated in less than a month.
[00:16:44] From diagnosis to treatment, I think
[00:16:48] it's important to actively participate in the
[00:16:51] training of our general practitioners to raise their awareness about skin
[00:16:55] pathologies and so that we can take care of patients as quickly as possible, as early as possible, and
[00:16:59] avoid somewhat exceptional
[00:17:02] cases with very, very
[00:17:04] late diagnoses. And there you go.
[00:17:09] "It's not easy when you're a child to announce that to your parents, but
[00:17:13] that's it." After a late
[00:17:16] diagnosis, Charlotte, 32 years old,
[00:17:20] pays the price. Maybe it's him.
[00:17:23] Yeah, that's it. We see the pulmonary
[00:17:27] lesions there
[00:17:31] on the knee, yes and the liver too. We
[00:17:35] see it's present from birth.
[00:17:47] I was devastated. I really didn't expect such a
[00:17:50] diagnosis to be made
[00:17:53] after the biopsy. So here we clearly see
[00:17:57] the mole on the side of the year 2022.
[00:18:01] She is first bothered by bleeding on her foot. Anyway, I looked
[00:18:05] on Doctorib and so on, and I saw that
[00:18:07] I wasn't going to get an appointment at all. I kind of let it drag on, and a few
[00:18:11] months later it started bleeding again and it
[00:18:15] said, "Well, for me it doesn't necessarily look
[00:18:19] problematic, it just looks like it has a small foreign body inside, it might
[00:18:22] be a splinter." So in fact, she took a photo with a
[00:18:25] dermatoscope and she sent it to lots of
[00:18:29] dermatologists. They don't know where else to turn. The young woman quickly gets an
[00:18:32] appointment when the diagnosis comes in: a
[00:18:35] stage 4 melanoma,
[00:18:39] the highest, significant. I didn't expect that at all. For me, it was a beauty mark that was already
[00:18:42] there. I wasn't exposing myself to the sun, I mean, I was exposing myself to the sun but
[00:18:46] I wasn't at all a sun fanatic, I always put on sunscreen and so on
[00:18:50] and so on. So for me it was impossible, and when you're 28, you don't expect this type of diagnosis
[00:18:54] at all. Hi, I'm Charlotte, I'm 31
[00:18:58] and I suffer from metastatic melanoma, so a stage
[00:19:01] 4 melanoma. Charlotte then starts several targeted
[00:19:04] treatments
[00:19:07] still against her cancer and raises public awareness on social
[00:19:11] networks. 3 months ago I had a recurrence in my
[00:19:15] knee, so I just had two more operations. I think we really don't
[00:19:19] talk enough about the problems, well, about
[00:19:22] skin cancers, what we call violet, but nobody
[00:19:26] has ever heard of it, unlike pink October or
[00:19:29] golden September or whatever. How many times have I said, "Yes, I have skin cancer," "Yes,
[00:19:33] well, it's just a small cancer, it's just a small mole, it's not like..."
[00:19:38] it's not like breast cancer, cancer, well, lung or other
[00:19:41] cancer, it's just a small thing, when in reality it's still quite serious, and once you have
[00:19:45] it at an advanced stage, you never get rid of it. Like
[00:19:48] Charlotte, 200,000 skin cancers are diagnosed every year
[00:19:52] in France. Pierre Haman reminds us that the first
[00:19:56] step is to consult your general practitioner. Often,
[00:19:59] and what the population doesn't know, is that they come to see us
[00:20:03] spontaneously, without going through their treating doctor, without respecting the care
[00:20:06] pathway. And so that's where there's a problem because often for them it's a cross to bear to
[00:20:10] find an appointment, while the treating doctor will be
[00:20:13] able to properly guide them
[00:20:17] quickly.
[00:20:19] However, it is still necessary to be able to get an appointment, because the shortage
[00:20:23] also affects
[00:20:23] general practitioners.
[00:20:28] In France, 6 million patients lack a general
[00:20:32] practitioner. In the Occitanie region, a
[00:20:34] profession has therefore decided to lend a hand.
[00:20:38] Consider yourselves all here as whistleblowers, okay, we are not
[00:20:41] dermatologists, we are not doctors. That morning, in the suburbs of
[00:20:45] Montpellier, some fifty volunteer physiotherapists are undergoing
[00:20:48] dermatological training.
[00:20:51] So the adapter will screw onto one of the two
[00:20:54] holes here depending on your
[00:20:57] phone.
[00:21:00] Objective: to identify lesions on their patients during
[00:21:03] consultations and directly transmit their images to a
[00:21:06] dermatologist.
[00:21:09] They asked to take four photos, one from far away, one from close up, and then with
[00:21:12] the use.
[00:21:15] An idea proposed by dermatologist George Bess after a
[00:21:19] meeting with a physiotherapist.
[00:21:22] I think that physiotherapists, among others, see patients undressed, and that
[00:21:26] is fundamental. So an undressed patient will have a lesion that they would not
[00:21:30] have shown, either because they don't think about it, an elderly person, or because they are afraid to
[00:21:33] think about it and are afraid of the
[00:21:35] answer.
[00:21:38] This system was tested for a year by the Occitanie
[00:21:41] physiotherapists' association. This experiment allowed
[00:21:44] us to train and equip 13 colleagues in Occitanie, one per
[00:21:48] department. And the feedback we
[00:21:50] received over these 12 months was the discovery of six
[00:21:53] cancers, four carcinomas and two melanomas. This
[00:21:57] result prompted the ARS, the regional health agency, to
[00:22:01] subsidize the training of 100 additional physiotherapists in
[00:22:04] Occitanie. Stay silent with him. If it goes to
[00:22:08] tele-expertise, he gets 10 euros. It's not at all a
[00:22:11] commercial approach, it's
[00:22:13] really a public health service, that's how we
[00:22:17] see it. Otherwise, honestly, we all have work to do. The offices are
[00:22:21] full so there's no need to do
[00:22:23] additional acts.
[00:22:26] But some see even further. We look
[00:22:29] straight ahead and close our eyes, here
[00:22:31] we go.
[00:22:36] In the Paris region, this center screens for skin cancers
[00:22:40] thanks to artificial intelligence.
[00:22:43] So here I have all the lesions listed for the lady.
[00:22:46] She has 276 in total
[00:22:49] with... 92 sensors, the AI generates a
[00:22:52] 3D avatar of the patient and makes initial
[00:22:55] observations,
[00:22:57] so I'm taking a few more based on their shape, size, and
[00:23:00] color.
[00:23:03] Dermatologists partnered with the center then analyze this data and
[00:23:07] make a diagnosis. AI alone is not
[00:23:10] reliable enough to replace a doctor;
[00:23:14] however, it is a valuable tool for measuring,
[00:23:17] sorting lesions, classifying, etc. The
[00:23:20] time-consuming activities are done
[00:23:23] here by technicians, all of which saves medical time for
[00:23:27] dermatologists.
[00:23:30] 84 euros for a screening not reimbursed by social
[00:23:34] security. This technology allowed 30
[00:23:37] melanomas to be detected in the first year, according to Étienne
[00:23:40] Barlet. If a patient comes back in 2 years,
[00:23:43] uh, we can tell them very, very exactly which lesion has
[00:23:47] regressed, which lesion has evolved, and that gives a
[00:23:50] very valuable indication for making a
[00:23:53] diagnosis.
[00:23:55] Hello, five centers like this have opened throughout
[00:23:58] France, but for the moment, no AI
[00:24:02] device is recommended by the French Society of
[00:24:04] Dermatology. All these studies are ongoing, we
[00:24:08] are working on them, the entire dermatological community is very involved, but
[00:24:12] for now our message is caution. There is also another problem
[00:24:16] which is the problem of downstream, that is to say, if you have a massive influx
[00:24:20] of patients who go through this kind of technique and then it
[00:24:23] unnecessarily clogs our consultations, it makes no
[00:24:27] sense.
[00:24:29] Only 100 dermatologists are trained each year. The
[00:24:33] government has announced the arrival of 27 additional residents per
[00:24:37] year, far from the reinforcements hoped for by the
[00:24:39] profession.
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[00:30:07] "It's 9 a.m. here in Paris. Hello everyone and welcome
[00:30:11] to Let's Talk, your appointment with the news that takes its time. Here are the
[00:30:14] headlines for this Thursday: public and private sector employees called
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[00:30:22] of living. High school and university students are expected to join some of the
[00:30:25] 250 marches planned across the country, a national strike day and
[00:30:29] mobilization called by unions that also disrupts France
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[00:30:38] What will the mid-term elections have on the war
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[00:30:45] next week in Abu Dhabi. We will be in Kyiv for this
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