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[00:00:14] They observe alert, they
[00:00:18] testify, film,
[00:00:20] photography, they are the voice of the
[00:00:23] voiceless, they are your eyes around the
[00:00:26] world, the observers. A network of
[00:00:30] 5000 public and private citizens were called to strike.
[00:00:34] What is the government's response? Political scientist Emmanuel Échivar is our
[00:00:37] guest. Panic in the European sky, once again
[00:00:41] this week, air traffic was disrupted by false bomb alerts,
[00:00:45] a dozen this Thursday morning alone. Several flights had to be
[00:00:49] diverted. And then Israeli President Isaac
[00:00:53] since the absence of Herzog continues his consultations for the formation of a government, one week after the
[00:00:57] legislative elections. It is the centrist Gady Eisencrot,
[00:01:00] Benjamin Netanyahu's main rival, who holds the
[00:01:40] The mobilization was generally peaceful, a new day of
[00:01:43] demonstrations this Thursday in France against the high cost of living for
[00:01:47] jobs and wages, high school students and university students who
[00:01:50] have been denouncing their study conditions since mid-September came to swell
[00:01:54] the ranks of private sector and public sector employees who were called to
[00:01:58] stop work, Marie Schuster for France 24, the gathering,
[00:02:02] Place de la Nation here
[00:02:03] in
[00:02:12] Paris. A demonstration which, apart from some sporadic skirmishes, took place
[00:02:16] peacefully, there were however many, many people present
[00:02:20] in this Parisian procession on Thursday to such an extent that the end of the
[00:02:23] procession was blocked at Place de la République while the first demonstrators were already arriving
[00:02:27] at Place de la Nation 3 km further. The slogan of this
[00:02:30] gathering was indeed the convergence of struggles, within this procession, we met all
[00:02:33] generations, all situations, teachers, caregivers, firefighters
[00:02:37] who came to defend public services, but also private sector employees, retirees who came in
[00:02:41] support of students who had also made the trip, all denouncing degraded
[00:02:45] living and working conditions marked by staff shortages, they
[00:02:48] demand wage increases and overall an
[00:02:52] increase in purchasing power, economic demands that are combined with
[00:02:55] protests against police violence and against racism,
[00:02:59] particularly following the Trappes attack a few
[00:03:02] days ago, and to talk about it, Emmanuel Échivard, good evening, you
[00:03:06] are a political scientist, professor at Sciences Po Paris, thank you for being with us this
[00:03:10] evening, uh we saw a fairly massive mobilization throughout
[00:03:13] the hexagon, what does that show, it shows a convergence of struggles,
[00:03:17] a convergence of anger also since that's what Marie Chuster said, there are
[00:03:20] economic and social
[00:03:23] demands,
[00:03:26] yes, so it's a convergence of anger and it's a
[00:03:30] convergence of politics, meaning I think
[00:03:34] we have truly entered the presidential campaign, in
[00:03:37] reality, uh I think that we
[00:03:41] haven't finished seeing processions uh
[00:03:44] and that it's not a small salary conference or
[00:03:48] a few points, I don't know, added professors who
[00:03:51] will, who will bring everyone in, in fact here
[00:03:55] the presidential election is starting to be played, meaning that
[00:03:58] for example, I have students and when I talk to them
[00:04:01] in fact they talk to me about the presidential election, they talk to me
[00:04:04] about who they don't want to see in power, who they are going to
[00:04:07] vote for, you see, things have
[00:04:10] to stop at for now the started and in fact there
[00:04:12] the the the was no presidential campaign in 2022, well it's starting a little
[00:04:14] earlier than usual and a little stronger, so you referred to
[00:04:18] this social conference which will be
[00:04:21] You are still on France 24, the rest of held at Matignon on Monday with Sébastien Lecornu, the unions and
[00:04:25] the employers, and if I understand you correctly, this movement that has been going on for
[00:04:28] more than 3 weeks now is going to
[00:04:31] last,
[00:04:34] it is going to last and transform itself. So social
[00:04:38] movements, uh no one controls them, especially when they
[00:04:42] start with young people, but uh uh
[00:04:45] and when the unions are not in the front line, but
[00:04:49] are first of all, uh following uh so
[00:04:52] uh it seems to me that the demonstrators are not addressing the
[00:04:56] government, meaning that people are intelligent, they have understood
[00:05:00] that the government does not really have control, that we are at the end of the term of a
[00:05:04] very weak government, a government that does not have a majority, and
[00:05:07] so it is rather to those who will come,
[00:05:11] that is to say to the campaign, that is to say to those who will have the
[00:05:14] reins in 6 months that all this movement
[00:05:18] is expressing itself, so I
[00:05:21] I fear that the social conference on
[00:05:24] Monday will be a way for the government to try to
[00:05:27] respond but will not be able to achieve this kind
[00:05:30] of objective, except that between now and 6 months, perhaps something
[00:05:34] needs to be done. How can this government, which as you recalled,
[00:05:37] has no majority, no budget either,
[00:05:41] precisely because of this limited room for manoeuvre,
[00:05:44] do something? As you said, the
[00:05:48] promises made to high school students, which by the way did not convince, what is
[00:05:52] next for these next six months?
[00:05:55] Well, we have been in political crisis
[00:05:59] since 2024, since
[00:06:02] the failed dissolution,
[00:06:05] the government's lack of majority, so we are in political
[00:06:09] crisis, we are even perhaps in a regime crisis.
[00:06:13] Because for example, we are not certain that the presidential election
[00:06:16] will resolve things since there are legislative elections afterwards and we are not
[00:06:20] even sure that the legislative elections will lead to a true majority, so we are in
[00:06:23] political crisis and a regime crisis, so uh
[00:06:27] unfortunately uh crises crises
[00:06:30] they last, uh crises then they metamorphose, they transform,
[00:06:34] we probably won't have every week uh 1 million
[00:06:37] people in the streets uh
[00:06:40] but we are entering a
[00:06:43] situation, a rather formidable situation
[00:06:47] indeed because there is something a bit tragic
[00:06:50] uh everything converges to the absence of
[00:06:53] solutions, so it's really a tragic situation in fact, everything converges to the absence of solutions,
[00:06:57] there's no money, there's no majority,
[00:06:59] there's life becoming more and more
[00:07:03] expensive, there's a presidential election in 6
[00:07:05] months, so I keep trying, I keep trying
[00:07:09] to examine what I would do if... prime
[00:07:12] ministers, uh in fact, if you want
[00:07:16] Emmanuel Macron should have resigned in
[00:07:18] 2024 because he had no majority because
[00:07:22] and and should have had a presidential election at that time,
[00:07:26] since in fact we are in political crisis so there will be no satisfactory
[00:07:29] solution, so we can pretend a little
[00:07:32] uh we can have roundtables, we
[00:07:36] can have Grenelles uh of
[00:07:39] salary, we can have Grenelles of the high cost of living, uh but but
[00:07:43] in fact there's no way to make real
[00:07:46] decisions, especially if the
[00:07:49] government, the executive in general, as you recalled, with this
[00:07:52] presidential election approaching, makes
[00:07:56] promises, it's not certain either that they will be kept afterwards by
[00:08:00] its successors because these are measures that for the most part are not done in
[00:08:03] a few days or a few weeks but in several
[00:08:06] months, yes, so it is precisely
[00:08:10] for this reason that uh we must realize that the
[00:08:13] demonstrators are not talking to the government in fact, they are talking
[00:08:17] to the various candidates,
[00:08:20] they are talking to the political world in general, which party
[00:08:23] do you think or in any case which political
[00:08:27] trend could most benefit from,
[00:08:30] profit from this social crisis, from
[00:08:34] this large-scale
[00:08:35] mobilization?
[00:08:38] Well, for now, we see very clearly on one side the
[00:08:41] party of the N.F., so it's the National Rally, and on the other
[00:08:45] side, the only party that
[00:08:48] has worked, and then there's youth especially, there's youth
[00:08:52] C.G.T., so we see that, that's the two, then
[00:08:55] after that there's what we call the central camp, but which currently
[00:08:59] first of all between the conservative right of Retailleau
[00:09:02] and then the the the
[00:09:05] Macronism, the neo-Macronism of Attal, there's not much
[00:09:09] connection, so it's missing a voice.
[00:09:13] For now, we can't find it, a voice that is sufficiently
[00:09:16] elevated to give everyone a global image and not
[00:09:20] just, you see,
[00:09:24] this central space stops at small
[00:09:28] projects, so we talk about
[00:09:31] security, immigration, there is no idea of what image we want for
[00:09:35] France, we know on one side order, on the other
[00:09:39] side we know a rather revolutionary form, in any case, of...
[00:09:42] yes, of renewal of political institutions
[00:09:45] for the central bloc, we have no ideas,
[00:09:48] so will there be a personality who will
[00:09:52] impose themselves, I heard on your set someone before who said that for
[00:09:56] now they won't impose themselves and those who are there, the
[00:10:00] candidates of the current central bloc are
[00:10:03] not succeeding, are not making an impression, and will there be another way,
[00:10:07] someone who will be ready to talk
[00:10:09] about it, build a dialogue with the party and youth before
[00:10:13] the presidential elections, uh well we'll have to wait and see, wait and see, but it's
[00:10:17] quite fascinating, it's quite fascinating and
[00:10:20] quite tragic, that's what I think
[00:10:23] history is called, thank you very much. Emmanuel Échivard, political scientist,
[00:10:26] professor at Sciences Po Rennes, sorry, thank you for answering our
[00:10:30] questions tonight, from Italy to Finland, via France
[00:10:33] or the Czech Republic, no less than a
[00:10:36] dozen flights were disrupted this Thursday morning, this is the third
[00:10:40] time in a week due to false bomb alerts, it is not known if
[00:10:44] they are linked, the fact remains that some planes had to be
[00:10:47] diverted, like the one connecting Dublin to Rome
[00:10:50] (Mambougo)
[00:10:54] the passengers of... This plane was supposed to land in Rome,
[00:10:57] they are on the tarmac of the Evreux military base in the hour,
[00:11:01] their aircraft was diverted this morning due to a bomb
[00:11:05] alert. The plane is diverted to the nearest field that
[00:11:09] can accommodate it, in this case, it must have been the Evreux field which is a military
[00:11:12] field, once the plane is on the ground, demining
[00:11:16] operators intervene. On board, there were
[00:11:19] 151 passengers and six crew members. It is almost
[00:11:23] 8am this morning when... their airliner, an A320 of the
[00:11:27] Air Lingus company, took off from Dublin, heading for Rome, but after
[00:11:31] an hour of flight, the aircraft changed trajectory, it was then
[00:11:36] pilots,
[00:11:39] air and space force thus took off to proceed with
[00:11:43] the interception of this civil aircraft in the Paris sector,
[00:11:46] then its internment to air base 105 in Evreux
[00:11:49] Fauville, for now no information has been given on
[00:11:53] the origin of the alert. This is not the only plane that was targeted this morning
[00:11:57] by a bomb alert, there would be at least 11 others, and
[00:12:00] last Tuesday already, Ryanair flights were subject to
[00:12:03] threats, this is the case of this aircraft connecting Manchester to Murcia in Spain.
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[00:13:40] What is equal opportunities? At "Faites le Mur",
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[00:13:47] regardless of their origins. It means giving everyone
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[00:14:46] the essential with this question, who will be responsible
[00:14:50] for forming a government in Israel? No majority emerged
[00:14:54] from last week's legislative elections, and President Isaac
[00:14:58] Herzog continues his consultations. The
[00:15:00] centrist Gady Eisenkost seems to be in a strong position,
[00:15:03] especially, Stéphanamar from Jerusalem, good evening, that Benjamin
[00:15:07] Netanyahu was abandoned by a long-time
[00:15:09] ally.
[00:15:12] Yes, absolutely, the Orthodox
[00:15:15] party Achenas, the Union for Judaism and Torah
[00:15:19] which governs alongside Benjamin Netanyahu, who
[00:15:22] participated in all his recent coalitions, announced that it would
[00:15:26] support neither Benjamin Netanyahu nor Gady
[00:15:30] Eisenkot, but of course, this is a handicap for the Israeli
[00:15:33] Prime Minister because it further reduces the members.