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[00:01:28] it's 11 p.m. i'm king. stepping in [00:01:30] a for Alex Armstrong, and this is Alex Armstrong [00:01:34] of of tonight, late edition, and then he said, [00:01:37] of we'll forget her soon enough. It's the [00:01:41] war of words threatening to break apart the winsers as Earl Spencer [00:01:44] unleashes again on the [00:01:46] of king, but can you imagine anybody making a profit [00:01:50] at their brother or sister's death? [00:01:52] a It's so low, it's inconceivable. I will never [00:01:56] profit from Diana's death, inconvenient. on the [00:02:00] archives, allies [00:02:01] of the king fight back accusing the hypocritical [00:02:04] of earl spencer of peddling Diana's privacy, [00:02:08] of of and Russia uh began this illegal invasion, [00:02:11] of and that is absolutely clear and they could stop it any given [00:02:14] of time. Britain will never be fairweather friend. As [00:02:18] Putin's [00:02:19] of of threats against Europe grow, is Andy Burnham really [00:02:21] listening? We don't just want to hear apology, we want [00:02:25] reparation. [00:02:30] faces a Caribbean lawsuit over [00:02:32] a slavery reparations and yes [00:02:35] of we do everything to support our national security, but it can't [00:02:39] come at the expense of social [00:02:43] of [00:02:44] of security. that was the political [00:02:45] in attack line [00:02:46] of of the year, it just wasn't created by the conservatives and he burnam there at the most recent [00:02:50] of prime minister's questions, that comment on social security didn't go down too [00:02:54] well, well the Sunday Times carries the story, pip benefits [00:02:58] bill set to [00:02:59] of double by 2030, no one is surprised. [00:03:03] Joining me this evening, Benjamin Butterworth, Jamie Maciver [00:03:06] and [00:03:07] of her debut in the Patdington Studio, Laura Right, former [00:03:10] of Conservative Specializa uh and partner at uh sorry, I should [00:03:14] say that's all for us [00:03:15] of now, before we get stuck into tomorrow's top stories, it's [00:03:18] of day one [00:03:21] of of the lib dem a conference, unfortunately I've got to give you an update, we [00:03:24] of care we [00:03:25] a fight, of we [00:03:27] of care of [00:03:27] we fight, we care. "we fight, [00:03:31] that's [00:03:31] in right, [00:03:38] in [00:03:40] a [00:03:44] yes, the uh, head of lastill economics [00:03:47] of of the iaa, Christopher Snowden, who I interviewed for GB News on Fire at Whill earlier this [00:03:51] week, said that looks like the deputy head [00:03:53] of the geography department, after three pints of landlord, really better [00:03:57] summary of Ed Davy." [00:03:59] let's take you through tomorrow's front pages, ladies and gentlemen, the mail on [00:04:03] Sunday, it's not every day you get gaslit by the king, [00:04:07] that's obviously in reference to Earl Spencer's comments [00:04:11] of regarding King Charles, the Sunday times a different sland, Hypocrite [00:04:15] Spencer is pedling Diana's privacy, says king's [00:04:18] allies, the Sunday telegraph, PM fiddles as Putin [00:04:21] threatens to burn Europe, their very strong comments from leader [00:04:25] of the conservatives, the [00:04:28] in independent [00:04:28] of voters of across. back rejoining the EU, that's [00:04:32] that extensive survey from the independent that at least one of my [00:04:36] panel believes doesn't quite pass the sniff test, the Sunday mirror fury at [00:04:40] Matty's suspects book plot, more heartbreak for [00:04:44] the Macan [00:04:45] of family, the observer leads simply with careless, [00:04:49] the sun on Sunday leads with Kangaroo wins [00:04:52] off to the [00:04:54] in jungle, in I'm a celebrity in my home country of [00:04:57] Australia, compulsive viewing no doubt Sunday. Lives at risk as [00:05:01] illegal knives flood into the UK, I wonder how they got there, we'll [00:05:05] discuss that a bit [00:05:06] me later. Let's go to the panel on the Royal [00:05:09] of [00:05:09] a Imboro, Laura, I'll start with you, what do you make of all of this? "It's a very awkward [00:05:13] time for King Charles at the moment, with Harry and Megan moving back, with [00:05:17] Prince Andrew in hiding, and now Earl Spencer, nearly [00:05:21] 30 years after his sister's death, coming out with another [00:05:24] scathing memoir that follows that released by prince Harry [00:05:28] Spair, so one has to assume that there is a monetary [00:05:31] incentive behind this, but yeah, he recalls a phone call between himself and [00:05:35] King Charles after her death where he claims King Charles sounded giddy [00:05:39] and said she'll be forgotten soon enough. in [00:05:43] the uh last hour said that apparently erl spencer sold a bit [00:05:47] of property recently for 60 million quid so it doesn't sound like he's short [00:05:51] of cash uh which makes again [00:05:54] it it interesting to work out why now benjamin is you know [00:05:57] is is the question um do you do you put [00:06:01] much truck in these delegations it's not like aristocrats to be greedy [00:06:04] and more than 60 million of course that wouldn't happen look [00:06:08] it's very hard for any of us to know because we weren't in the [00:06:11] room on one hand you have people like Richard K who was very [00:06:15] close to Princess Diana, New Earl Spencer at the time is [00:06:18] renowned columnist for the daily mail and he says look this echo is the kind of [00:06:22] notes I took at the time as his version of events. On the other hand you have Earl [00:06:26] Spencer himself doing interviews saying very [00:06:30] different claims about that period on TV networks at the time [00:06:34] to what he says now. What I think is really uncomfortable is [00:06:38] that there are two kids in this. It's easy to think because we constantly hear the [00:06:41] melodrama. the royal family that this is normal, actually the idea that you know [00:06:45] your mum died and you know your uncle is saying your dad hated her in front [00:06:49] the world, actually that's an incredibly messed up thing, and you [00:06:53] know, I don't know if it's true or not, but I really [00:06:57] don't like Earl Spencer, he just comes across as a [00:07:00] pretty unpleasant, grim character, you know, he's a kind of [00:07:04] guy that's on his fourth wife, he's just had his third divorce, his kids don't talk [00:07:08] to him, I'm not inclined to trust him as a character, even if it's... [00:07:12] about king charles? I don't know [00:07:15] el spencer personally, I'm [00:07:15] not a position to offer any uh any balance in that that character assessment or assassination, [00:07:19] whichever way you would you would choose to dispute it, I guess if he was here, he would dispute that [00:07:23] assessment of his character. Uh, Jamie, uh, this relationship [00:07:27] that the worlds have with privacy, I think is very interesting conversation, so the teller the [00:07:31] times, I should say, is saying El Spencer is peddling what little remains of Princess [00:07:35] Diana's privacy with his new book. In some respects, I agree with [00:07:39] that, in another respect, and I think about this whenever Harry... incessantly talks [00:07:43] about his right to privacy as he is peddling some new product or or [00:07:47] uh or putting something up on social media is they do have a complicated relationship [00:07:51] because in one respect they request privacy but in the other they utilize [00:07:55] their celebrity and they are celebrities to uh and monetized [00:07:58] in in in in many different ways yeah i think so if you take this through the [00:08:02] lens of a brother that's lost his sister in the most traumatic way then you kind of understand that [00:08:06] he wants to tell the world what really happened um probably taking it from a [00:08:09] position that Diana wasn't a fan of Charles uh and probably the last [00:08:13] conversation he probably had with his sister was one where she probably wasn't a happy person [00:08:17] and I think that's understandable from a broken-hearted brother. That being said, [00:08:21] I do not like the head of state and my king being battered in the press, I [00:08:25] can't stand that as a patriot. I also really don't like the fact that our royal [00:08:29] family is turning into east enders. It's too many moving parts right now. You've [00:08:33] got all the stuff of Andrew, all the stuff of Harry and Megan, all the stuff the [00:08:36] king, now stuff about Diana from 30 years ago, it's the most [00:08:40] important institution in this. and we [00:08:43] have to get it just back on the PR straight and narrow and maybe we should all just stop reading about [00:08:47] it and talking about it, jamie, there has been an element of soap in [00:08:51] the royal family well before Henry II, it's always been an [00:08:55] element [00:08:55] of this, I don't think this is new phenomenon, I would disagree because I think since the [00:08:59] passing the queen the whole PR around the royal family has been a [00:09:03] disaster that no one has had a grip and I feel like maybe her [00:09:07] late majesty actually had a grip on the communications far more than perhaps we [00:09:11] might have given her credit. of that life? I think the inner circle do have a [00:09:14] grip on the PR, if you look at the prince and princes of Wales and how [00:09:18] diligent and hard-working they have been, following her return to [00:09:22] work, and King Charles still undergoing cancer treatment, [00:09:26] and he had huge success at Dumpfrey's house in Scotland, welcoming global [00:09:29] AI leaders, roaring success when he visited the states. I think the [00:09:33] trouble is coming from those who feel ostracized from the inner circle, and they feel [00:09:37] a need to make some noise so that they can monetize through things like [00:09:40] autobiographies and it was. [00:09:42] It was Earl Spencer [00:09:43] who said that it would be revolting, it would be totally wrong to [00:09:46] monetize the death of my sister. Well, I'm sorry, but what are you [00:09:50] doing, if not that with this book? You are sharing deeply [00:09:54] personal remarks and exchanges that you had that will probably hurt his [00:09:58] kids, your spencer's nephew, and also, if it's not for the [00:10:02] millions that he's likely getting paid for this book, then did he wait 29 [00:10:05] years because he was waiting for Charles to be king so that he could execute the [00:10:09] maximum damage. Michael Gove, Lord Gove. said a on another channel the [00:10:13] other day that actually the Spencers are from a from an aristo aristocratic [00:10:17] family that goes back far far further than the incumbants of [00:10:21] Buckinggham Palace. They see themselves as above the Royal Family. 'they [00:10:25] see themselves as better and they think that their family was muddied by this and the [00:10:29] drama that Diana got involved. I think these are just [00:10:32] slimy odious people that are trying to attack the royal [00:10:35] family and making millions in the process. what I would suggest is that it would have [00:10:39] had more credibility if say he said I'm going to give the entire process the [00:10:43] book to a charity that Diana was associated with for example his next [00:10:47] divorce probably [00:10:49] again Ir spencer is not here to defend himself or his range of [00:10:53] different relationship'. um, I [00:10:57] uh, there's one final question, Jamie, I want on this, and that is, I guess, [00:11:01] looking at it from a wider lens, this is still leading in most the [00:11:05] front pages, uh, and it's perhaps because I, I, despite [00:11:09] this still being uh, the royal family that governs [00:11:12] Australia, um, I don't have the same probably emotional connection to the [00:11:16] royal family that many British people do, why is this [00:11:20] still on the front pages 30 years after her death and why does this continue to resonate in the way [00:11:24] that? "if I thought that the mainstream media would put on the [00:11:28] front page things that the British people actually care about, then maybe I would [00:11:31] suggest uh, I don't have that opinion, um, they they [00:11:35] they they put on what we want us to, they think we want to be reading, but let's [00:11:39] be very clear, Diana is [00:11:42] someone who is still brings a tear to the eyes [00:11:46] of many British people when there's an anniversary, I'm a princess Diana [00:11:50] Awardholder myself, I feel much connection to someone who, of course I wasn't even [00:11:54] a live um..." when she sadly killed, so there is lot of British people that do [00:11:58] still take an interest [00:11:59] and I think there's [00:12:00] a lot of British people that wonder just what if she hadn't have [00:12:03] died, what would Diana be like today? and I think there's a lot of people, certainly [00:12:07] my grandparents generation, my mom's generation who are interested, what they [00:12:11] won't like, what they won't like is Diana's memory [00:12:15] being used in not a positive way. I think there is lot of people that [00:12:19] are interested, but I think they want to see William and Harry [00:12:23] unite again and I think they want to see... 'the royal family be back on [00:12:26] track, it feels very unstable at the moment, well the male has [00:12:30] apparently come to deal to serialized portions of [00:12:34] this book, so this isn't the last the revelations that will come, [00:12:38] not to mention the fact the book coming out in full soon enough, so this [00:12:42] story isn't going away uh, i want to turn to something which [00:12:45] i would dare say has a more material impact on the United [00:12:49] Kingdom and that is the story that we covered briefly before the break, and that is [00:12:52] Bernam fiddling while Putin threatens to burn'. Europe this is comments [00:12:56] from basically criticising the PM for [00:13:00] failing to fund the armed forces. We now have a [00:13:03] chancelor in place who literally resigned as matter of [00:13:07] principle because he wasn't convinced that [00:13:09] there was a credible pathway to get to that 3% spending number. I [00:13:13] still don't think there is a credible pathway in place. How can [00:13:17] he have any credibility and uh if [00:13:21] that isn't put in place very very quickly? Yeah, lot of questions ahead [00:13:24] the budget. of October Burnham speaks about number 10 in the north, [00:13:28] devolution, industrialization, wanting to strengthen ties with [00:13:32] Europe, but you [00:13:33] now, how is he going to pay for all of this when, as we'll come to, the benefits bill [00:13:37] continues to rise, he's meeting president Trump in New York on [00:13:40] Tuesday, he's going to raise the Ukraine issue and sending more patriot [00:13:44] missiles there, but again, what is Burnham willing to concede [00:13:48] if we are to reach that 3% target of GDP on defense [00:13:51] spending, is it welfare spending, will he be willing to cut? what will the [00:13:55] hisb just say? this is the question, r benjamin, again, i know you've pointed [00:13:59] to the triple lock, now whether or not that is uh is something that should be [00:14:03] considered, it won't be considered, it is politically toxic to [00:14:07] consider it, um, so that's out uh, i don't think there will [00:14:11] be substantial cuts to benefits if you saw the revolt from the labour [00:14:14] backbench the last time that was attempted, they're not going to touch their net zero [00:14:18] finaticism, where is this money going to come from? no, i don't think [00:14:22] that's right at all, because pat mcfadden was put in charge of work and [00:14:26] pensions and that is sector where he had said that labor was being [00:14:30] wrong, it was, it was just trying to tax enough and not cut benefits enough and he [00:14:34] got the top job in in in charge of benefits, so that suggests that they are [00:14:37] serious about cutting them, and I actually think some of his rhetoric in his [00:14:41] narrative is far more politically strategic, it's to soften up [00:14:45] those people that would be unsure of it, the proposal that Rachel Reeves put [00:14:49] forward was actually incredibly unsophisticated, it was just a sort of five [00:14:53] billion pound chop, so I think that there will be cuts to [00:14:56] benefit, I also think that all the indications are that they will try to get to [00:15:00] 3%, because as you say they put John Healey in charge of managing [00:15:04] the books, he was the one who quit, whereas streating, the new defense secretary has [00:15:08] said that it absolutely has to get to that target and that we have to increase the [00:15:12] spending, so [00:15:13] you know don't don't complain before you've got the conclusion, Jamie, [00:15:17] is that reasonable? I i think the biggest problem with people [00:15:21] like Burnment and frankly Labor is I just don't think they see... [00:15:25] defenses the realm as a genuine, keeps you awake at [00:15:28] night and a worry not why they got into politics right? [00:15:32] correct? and i think it comes from actually diluted patriotism that [00:15:36] you see on the left and... way and what I think is very [00:15:39] clear is that if there was a choice between doing [00:15:42] a press conference in the morning and out seeing loads more money [00:15:46] going into social care and and revitalizing that sector [00:15:50] versus investing in our defense. I know where Burnham would rather [00:15:54] go and it would simply be polling that would probably take him the other [00:15:57] way. We've got a country led by politicians that are [00:16:01] only interested in polls and SW1 politics. They are not [00:16:05] interested in the bigger picture and I think... That's why also you saw that the artifals be [00:16:09] hollowed by the tories, again just not enough polling showed that this [00:16:13] was an important thing. We need conviction, we need politicians with [00:16:16] gut, and we haven't got that in Britain. And the fact that we are on [00:16:20] television this evening talking about the fact there are serious people in [00:16:24] defense saying Britain's armed forces are not where they should be, and this [00:16:28] is now not a new story, our own sovereign territory in [00:16:31] Cyprus was attacked, it took us 30 days to get some sort of [00:16:35] backup. It is not good enough. and for those men and women, brave men and women [00:16:39] that put on uniform prepared to die for this country, we are letting them down [00:16:43] if nothing else but by their moral, their morale must be so low [00:16:47] when they read this as we read it, and Laura, this is [00:16:50] the thing, and I read through this this article from the telegraph [00:16:54] more, and I'm listening, I'm reading uh, Badnock's [00:16:58] comments and I agree with what she's saying, and she fries it [00:17:02] very well, you know, she said something similar to what uh, Jamie's just said, we have to [00:17:05] stop pretending that we are living. a care-free end of history, [00:17:09] it's in reference to Francis Fukiama, when Russia is testing our [00:17:13] resolve week after week, it's time to get serious, [00:17:17] yep, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, but at the same time, this is the fundamental [00:17:21] problem the conservatives face, they're saying the right things now, but so many people [00:17:24] across the country go, you were the ones responsible for either starting [00:17:28] this problem or perpetuating this problem, in this instance, you hollowed out defense [00:17:32] spending, at least in the first coalition years of that [00:17:36] conservative. [00:17:38] we can't trust you. you're right, defense spending has been hollowed [00:17:42] out and now we're in periods of hot wars, we have what's happening the Middle East, [00:17:46] escalating again overnight, what's happening in Ukraine? so really, I [00:17:50] think there's cross-party consensus now that defense spending must be [00:17:53] increased, but I think what's worrying about Burnam is if he [00:17:57] decides to increase taxes in order to pay for that, rather than cutting welfare [00:18:01] spending, and we've had number of high profile entrepreneurs coming out [00:18:05] already this week, news that they're leaving. the UK, exiling the [00:18:09] UK tax residency, that that's a huge problem, because we can't all [00:18:13] work for the government, right? so if we need to increase that defense spending, then we need [00:18:17] to have private sector taxpayers to do so. yeah, lord dannit who was the chief [00:18:21] general the general staff from 2006 to 2009, has said [00:18:25] my bottom line is that Andy Burnham, and regretfully, I would now add John [00:18:28] Hearley, are playing fast and loose with the nation's security. this [00:18:32] follows a theme in this article, Benjamin, from several very prominent former and [00:18:36] current military... figures, arm forces figures, [00:18:39] i should say, where they basically say labor does not take this [00:18:42] seriously. i've [00:18:43] got a question, you are the left uh to your [00:18:46] enduring shame, do [00:18:49] you do you care about the nation's security really deep in your bones? yeah, lord [00:18:53] west who is in that article was a ministering the labor government, so [00:18:57] clearly [00:18:57] it is not a failure the labor party, he worked for labor government, he worked for gorden [00:19:01] brown, and i think it's been hollowed out over the [00:19:05] previous 14 years right? happen in the last 48 [00:19:08] months true [00:19:10] and you know wait till the budget, it might be valid criticism after the budget, but I think it's [00:19:14] completely unreasonable to get the attacks in before because we don't know what they do, [00:19:17] and all the right people have been put in the top jobs that say they want to fix [00:19:21] this. i think times are changing rapidly than politicians generally [00:19:25] have realized, to be honest this decision should have been made far quicker [00:19:29] than two years ago, it it really was obvious once Russia invaded [00:19:33] Ukraine that times were changing, and there are more active wars right now than [00:19:37] any point. since the second world war ended, so I think we should be very [00:19:40] worried. Yeah, I think this is a really critical point that not enough [00:19:44] people are grasping, and that is that, as I said earlier, the [00:19:48] gone the days where you need to have hundreds of thousands of men [00:19:52] storming the beaches in order to take a country or to cause [00:19:56] mayhem, [00:19:56] now all you need is drones, you need to say that, but in July [00:20:00] 40,00 Russian troops were killed, which is utterly extraordinary number, [00:20:04] so in many ways it has changed and it hasn't. that [00:20:07] conflict is fascinating one because it is the combination of old school world war 1 trench [00:20:11] warfare with very advanced modern military techniques, i agree with [00:20:15] you, but at the same time my point is at least to do tremendous damage [00:20:19] to this country, you know [00:20:21] you don't need a great deal to to to cause that harm if you just want to do it via [00:20:24] cyber or via drones or or whatever modern method takes your fancy. 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[00:25:44] welcome back to Alex Armstrong. tonight, late edition with me, Will [00:25:47] Kingston. whenever I think I've... the most [00:25:51] shocking article about the budget position of this country, another one comes [00:25:55] along that just blows away, and this is an example of it on the front [00:25:58] page the Sunday Times, Britain is expected to be spending [00:26:02] billion pounds a year more on disability benefits by the end the [00:26:06] decade, according to the government's official economic forecast. the [00:26:10] office for budget responsibility has estimated that the cost of [00:26:14] personal independence payments will nearly double from [00:26:17] 26 billion pounds in 2024, already huge number [00:26:21] to 45 billion pounds in 2030. the [00:26:25] touries have tonight called on Andy Burnam and John [00:26:28] Healey to confront the grim reality of Britain's economic peril by [00:26:31] cutting the welfare bill at the autumn budget to control [00:26:35] inflation, labor in turn has accused the conservatives of lack of [00:26:38] self-awareness after here we go, former prime minister Liz Trust's [00:26:42] mini budget that caused market turmoil in 2022, well [00:26:46] note that the guilt yields under Liz Trust would be a [00:26:49] dream for Britain today, but that is by the buy because I do [00:26:53] want to get to this article on [00:26:55] pitpomen, during the [00:26:58] period spending on pip throughout this. [00:27:32] force as opposed to just taking money from [00:27:35] the government, yeah, so 39% of all disability payments of [00:27:38] psychiatric disorders, that's around 1.6 million claiments [00:27:42] of which nearly half 500, 500 [00:27:46] thousand are for anxiety disorders, i think we have to look at the [00:27:50] overmedicalization of anxiety as well, um, my family are [00:27:53] doctors and the mid 20th century we didn't see anything like [00:27:57] this and and i just wonder that what the incentives are that encourage [00:28:01] people to receive these payments rather than going back to work, the latter might help [00:28:05] their mental health. Benjamin. Well, I don't so much worry about [00:28:09] diagnoses these conditions. The question is how the state [00:28:12] then deals with the person having that diagnosis. It's [00:28:16] right to say, for example, that that many people that get anxiety and [00:28:20] depression are going to be likely to have worse mental health [00:28:23] by not having a routine and colleagues and access to the [00:28:27] benefits of their own mind by going to work. I think that is reasonable, [00:28:31] so I think the question. is is less about how many people get [00:28:35] diagnosis because it's really useful to understand yourself and more about the [00:28:39] way the state interacts with these diagnosis. the other thing I'd say is [00:28:42] that [00:28:43] you know for many people pip is good for the economy because it means they can be [00:28:47] productive and they can pay taxes and do a job. that's the [00:28:50] valid reason for its existence. but one thing that I think is a [00:28:54] problem is that you get pit regardless of what you're earning. [00:28:58] And you hear cases of people on fabulous salaries that also... [00:29:02] claim money from the state through pip. now it may be that the bureaucracy [00:29:06] of that uh costs more than having a cap on [00:29:10] it, i wonder whether in the rapidly evolving age of AI we could [00:29:14] do that without the great cost, and i think the idea that you know maybe cut it off at [00:29:18] the point at which child benefit is cut off, that would be one the ways that i would start to [00:29:22] cut back on these overheads. jamie, i would go further, i would say [00:29:25] look, unfortunately this bill has just gone out of [00:29:29] control, in fact what the telegraph is reporting, sorry, I should say the Times is [00:29:33] reporting is that a few years pip, that isn't just health, that is [00:29:37] just disability payments, is going to be bigger than every single [00:29:41] government department except education, health and the ministry of [00:29:45] defense, the fourth biggest government department in the country [00:29:49] goes to disability payments, surely we just need to draw a line and say any sort of [00:29:52] psychological disorders are not eligible for government funding, [00:29:56] or subsolutes, well the reality is this this entire thing has become [00:30:00] racket, it's become a complete r people's taxes are [00:30:03] going up, people that are working, getting up in the morning, going to work [00:30:07] who probably have anxiety, but just haven't got time to book a GP's appointment [00:30:11] to worry about it, they've got to get on with the daily life of having children, having a job, [00:30:15] having more than one job, paying bills, and yet there are [00:30:19] people that I'm not going to discount the fact that people [00:30:23] have mental health conditions, [00:30:25] and they have also physical health conditions, I'm not going to discount that, [00:30:29] but one of my teachers at school was a wheelchair and severely disabled. he went to [00:30:32] work every single day, one of uh someone i work very close to in politics is [00:30:36] totally blind and you get have to come to point where we [00:30:40] have to stop giving people a life sentence when they have got [00:30:43] simply a mental restricting illness which by the [00:30:47] way should be a temporary thing [00:30:49] we should try and make people better now there [00:30:51] are people that of course will argue and say i'm mr nasty for just [00:30:55] pointing out those facts what's the alternative what's the alternative people that [00:30:59] work really hard to pay into the system have to now get [00:31:15] have accused me of being insensitive on this, and I've always said there have been twice, two moments [00:31:18] in my life where I've been treated for depression, both with uh medication as well [00:31:22] as through through therapy. I'm well aware that this is a [00:31:26] real problem, but at the same time it's a problem that should be [00:31:30] temporary and there should be pathway through it towards work. My concern Laura is [00:31:34] this basically creates a culture of victimwood whereby people say I [00:31:38] have depression, it is part of me and as result of that [00:31:41] I i feel more comfort. just [00:31:45] sitting on the couch without that same sense of purpose as opposed to having a [00:31:49] greater incentive to getting up and pulling myself up by my bootstraps and actually saying well i need [00:31:53] to get back into society. i think we're seeing a worrying trend with the number of [00:31:57] send diagnoses in schools as well. mean this has gone up like [00:32:01] unexplainably and then what proportion of those students then go to be pip [00:32:05] claimts when you think about how many needs there are in the economy as well so do [00:32:08] think that is for people aren't aware not in employment [00:32:11] education or training and that number. exploded as [00:32:15] well over the last uh last i do think there is a link between these three [00:32:19] elements, what we're diagnosing kids with in schools, whether that's ADHD, [00:32:23] anxiety and theens and then now the increasing [00:32:26] uh pip claiments too, I think we have to see the link between them and and [00:32:30] question is this where we want to go as society? yeah, and there's one massive [00:32:34] elephant in the room which is the use of AI to fill in these application forms as [00:32:38] well, no one wants to talk about that, but there are people literally finding out how can I get [00:32:42] this, what do I need to say to the doctor, what do I need to do and and that is [00:32:45] exploiting the system, and as far as I'm concerned, all that does is [00:32:49] take resources away from people that genuinely need. so some people may not be at [00:32:53] home, may not be aware of of this phenomena, explain how that [00:32:57] works. well, haven't, i can't say i'm doing [00:32:59] it, yeah, my my tips, no, i i get [00:33:03] up in the morning and go to work and i if if i tell you what i probably do have mild anxiety [00:33:07] being reform politician, but [00:33:09] you know [00:33:09] what i wouldn't dream of admitting it, but but what is really [00:33:12] important is that people are aware that... you literally google [00:33:16] nowadays how do get a certain benefit, how can i make sure my child gets an [00:33:20] ADHD diagnosis? these things are happening, and what the state has been [00:33:24] quite slow to do is actually adapt to what is, mean i see as a [00:33:28] counselor, i get complaints now as a counselor, the nine pages [00:33:31] of a complaint about how someone's mental health, this that and the other [00:33:35] is affected simply because of a pot hole, this is a real-life [00:33:38] thing and we've got to adapt to it, yeah this is also [00:33:42] where the uh system safe not safe cards, the system's checks [00:33:46] and balances are so wowfully off. i'm aware for example, benjamin, that for [00:33:50] many these cases you don't need to go in and see a GP or a [00:33:54] cognitive behavioral therapist and actually get assessment done. lot of people [00:33:58] can get these payments through an on uh over the phone assessment. [00:34:01] surely that is insufficient in order to to actually make an [00:34:05] inform decision as to whether or not someone genuinely needs these types of payments. well, i [00:34:09] think it's a hangover from COVID when that became a [00:34:13] necessity and then it's... have remain the case and there are many people that aren't [00:34:17] reassessed for conditions that are ongoing, it must be very difficult to [00:34:21] determine whether someone's mental health is [00:34:24] sufficiently poor and challenging and disruptive that they [00:34:27] require a benefit, and I should think that in-person assessment or [00:34:31] repeat, repeatedly seeing doctor must be necessary, but [00:34:35] also [00:34:35] you know actually if we took some the budget that goes on the benefits and used it [00:34:39] for uh serious mental health support, you mentioned cognitive behavioral [00:34:43] therapy, that's the kind of thing. that could fix these problems for [00:34:47] many people so that they can get back to work and get back to having their [00:34:50] confidence and you might cost a little bit more up front but would fix the problem a [00:34:54] year's time yep well again something needs to be done because those [00:34:58] numbers just don't add up coming up we will be crossing live to leo [00:35:02] in washington who has very special guest this evening he will [00:35:05] reveal all this is alex armstrong tonight edition with me will [00:35:08] king [00:35:15] perfect holiday in the sun, we're they looking good then, for sure, and no worries about [00:35:19] our travel insurance, all clear travel insurance sponsors GB news travel destinations [00:35:23] forecast. there's a mixed picture across the Mediterranean [00:35:26] at the moment, many areas having a few showers, but actually in the [00:35:30] west for Spain, Portugal, it's largely dry and temperatures here, [00:35:34] well not as high as they have been recently, but still very warm if not hot with [00:35:38] lots of sunshine, more showers though, further east particularly across parts of [00:35:42] Italy towards the south, some them could be quite heavy, even some showers [00:35:46] further east for places like Croatia and Greece, but plenty of fine weather for [00:35:50] most areas of southern Europe into next week. 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[00:39:31] anyway, i thought off the back of that uh we'd get on uh the [00:39:35] AI actress Tilly who you may have seen has been doing the rounds on all [00:39:39] sorts of tv shows and network uh shows all across the [00:39:42] world uh including ITVs breakfast show so uh her name is [00:39:46] Tilly uh so far everybody's been asking her including the likes of peers and [00:39:49] Morgan you know talking about AI and are you going to kill us all and that kind of [00:39:53] stuff. i thought i'd ask Tilly tonight how maybe we could [00:39:57] stop the small boats or what her political persuasions are or get her [00:40:01] thoughts on um some interesting topics of discussion going on in [00:40:04] Britain, so that will be quite fun, hopefully I can um crack the [00:40:08] code and make tilly combust or something like that, so hopefully it'll be quite fun. uh [00:40:12] elsewhere, what's going on? president Trump is continuing to double down on banning [00:40:16] media from the White House, CNN, MSNBC and Politico, [00:40:20] all try to gain access to the white house today, and the secret service said, nope, [00:40:23] you're not coming in, and they swiped their cards away, the rumor has it. the New [00:40:27] York Post and the sorry, not New York Post, the new New York Times and the [00:40:31] Washington Post and potentially even the BBC could be next uh, just for the [00:40:35] record, [00:40:36] I don't agree with uh what Trump has done on that front, however lot of those [00:40:39] outlets are complete fabricators [00:40:41] so uh maybe they deserved it elsewhere um [00:40:45] yeah and also uh smallb sorry flock [00:40:48] cameras uh flock cameras are these AMPR style cameras all [00:40:52] across America slightly more advanced they use AI technology to track [00:40:56] cars even dens in cars, they can see inside vehicles as well, it's a [00:41:00] massive civil liberties argument brewing here in America, but it makes me laugh because [00:41:04] we've had these kind of things, again not so advanced, but we've had AMPR cameras in the [00:41:08] UK for decades and it's a start contrast really in [00:41:12] terms the freedoms that America has and that we have and that we're used to [00:41:16] losing or used to not having, because Americans now they hear about AMPR [00:41:20] cameras and they're losing their absolute minds and finally will, Ed Sheiren, all that [00:41:23] controversy about Macalmore being dropped from Ed's Tour, he's playing... [00:41:27] Philadelphia tonight, I went up to Philadelphia a bit earlier today to speak to fans and [00:41:31] see whether they thought uh it was right that Edshuven was getting so much stick about [00:41:35] it, so got a few comments from those people as well, yeah sounds good, [00:41:39] we're getting the... [00:41:40] ai actress on the show mate is genius idea, i'm sure you've got the pears [00:41:43] morgan clip ready to go, i won't give it away, ladies and gentlemen, but it is [00:41:47] hilarious to see what happens when you put tilly under even [00:41:51] moderate scrutiny, and ben, i'm sure you are more than up to the task, looking forward [00:41:55] to that at 12, yeah, thank you mate, that [00:41:58] was ben leo, i'm looking forward to watching that actually, it is um really, [00:42:02] really funny to see what happens in that situation, er, in other news and [00:42:06] this is coming from the telegraph, caribbean states are preparing to sub [00:42:10] under international racial discrimination laws, here we go, [00:42:14] to secure slavery operations, the prime minister of barbados is [00:42:18] hosting a conference this week to discuss strategies for obtaining [00:42:21] compensation and suggested legal action through international [00:42:25] courts as one option, she told supporters that it was time to [00:42:28] stop being advocates a movement and start being advocates [00:42:32] a case, according to the telegraph, legal experts in the [00:42:35] caribbean are looking into a potential reparations lawsuit against [00:42:39] Britain. on the basis of UN treaties covering racism. Let's [00:42:43] get the thoughts of my panel. Laura, I'll go to you [00:42:47] first. I interviewed a pro-reparations advocate a couple [00:42:51] of weeks ago and I made my thoughts on this pretty clear uh, is [00:42:54] this another example now of potentially the UK having getting stuck [00:42:58] a quagmire as a result of [00:43:02] international human rights law or international race discrimination or [00:43:06] whatever that may be. Number 10 have been direct on this and they've said the UK. [00:43:10] does not and will not pay reparations, some on the very [00:43:13] left-wing side the labour party are advocating for it, but it [00:43:17] feels very unrealistic that the UK would make any payment, [00:43:21] and as we've seen in recent years, international law is pretty [00:43:25] obsolete, well I agree with that, but where my concern is and I agree with you, [00:43:29] I don't think that would be stupid enough, unlike someone like David Lamy, I don't think they would be [00:43:32] stupid enough to avertly say [00:43:34] that they would support slavery operations, they may very [00:43:38] well implement some... similar through the back door by [00:43:42] stealth, for example through climate change aid or other [00:43:46] forms of foreign aid or other forms of international development support, [00:43:50] which may not be branded as reparations, but would deliver much the same [00:43:53] outcome in terms of financial support through to countries that [00:43:57] were formerly colonial out the United Kingdom, [00:44:00] as as you notice when you visit Australia, lot of buildings respectfully [00:44:04] acknowledge the territory that they are built on, yes, so it [00:44:08] might be words more than... Yes, yeah, [00:44:11] unfortunately I've been subjected to land acknowledgement ceremonies far [00:44:15] too often in Australia, I would say, I'm not quite as [00:44:19] respectful as some others are when those come up, if people were so [00:44:23] excited about acknowledging the traditional owners the land, they [00:44:27] should give their land back to them. Uh, Benjamin, what do you make these [00:44:30] plans or this this suggestion from the Caribbean nations? Well, I mean, [00:44:34] there's no chance of it happening, right, so you have to imagine that the reason [00:44:38] they're putting time or promotion. into it is for domestic [00:44:41] political reasons, but on the flip side, I [00:44:45] would say that, well you're definitely wrong, using money for [00:44:48] international development with some these countries is very wise. [00:44:52] Barbados, you reference Mia Motly, the prime minister of Barbados, who in fact [00:44:56] practiced as a barrister in London for many years when she was younger, she has close [00:45:00] link to Britain uh, she was a QC, she [00:45:03] what became in Barbados became the first country to get rid the [00:45:07] British monarch as of head of state in decades. a couple of years ago, now [00:45:11] at the same time they had started receiving lot of investment from China for their [00:45:15] infrastructure. I think it is China is being very [00:45:18] effective with its investment in many [00:45:21] countries in Africa, the Caribbean, other developing nations, and I [00:45:25] think we are naive and short-termists to cut our foreign aid [00:45:29] budget, not out of some kind of uh, [00:45:32] you know, pure altruism, but because it's strategically wise to invest in [00:45:36] these developing countries, especially on the African continent, that's not... "that's not [00:45:40] aid, that's foreign direct investment with very clear strings [00:45:44] at international development, foreign direct investment is not the same thing, [00:45:47] it is investment with very clear strings attached from the Chinese government that has [00:45:51] geopolitical consequences, yeah, good for them, it's wise, it makes [00:45:54] sense, like for example [00:45:57] aid in that way, the 600 on million pounds that apparently we sent to Angola [00:46:01] recently, which again, the amount of times I hear these sorts of numbers thrown around, [00:46:05] it's just staggering, that doesn't have any sort of geopolitical benefit for the United [00:46:09] Kingdom really." "I get really irritated by these stories because I think [00:46:13] it's a huge failure of British foreign policy [00:46:17] to have not backed former empire countries and kept those [00:46:21] relationships tight, yes we got the commonwealth, but actually when it comes to our [00:46:24] actual economies, so you take further and messive fail to break up the empire [00:46:28] full stop, and I would agree with you and let's have it back, but more [00:46:32] importantly, I used to work a Caribbean, and I can tell you now there is [00:46:36] no domestic benefit to any Caribbean politician advocating for..." [00:46:40] Caribbean people, particularly Antiga, Barbados, St. Lucia, the Grenadines where I have [00:46:44] worked, they are mortified and embarrassed about how their [00:46:48] politicians, the rhetoric towards Britain, they are grateful for [00:46:52] we've given. "most people in those Caribbean islands are employed directly or indirectly [00:46:56] by tourism, they want to build relationships with Britain, and actually if you [00:46:59] look at some the things that have happened in Barbados and now [00:47:03] Antiga wanting to remove the king as head of state, the one thing that people [00:47:07] in the Caribbean say about their ties to Britain, they feel it's an element of [00:47:11] security, they're prone to natural disasters, they're prone to many other [00:47:15] vulnerabilities, and they do not like this, and I think there'll be [00:47:18] politicians in the Caribbean that quickly start to lose their election." [00:47:22] when this starts to play out? well, coming up, ladies and gentlemen, we will heal more about [00:47:26] this, because unfortunately these Caribbean countries just won't let it go, but coming up after the [00:47:30] break, I'm tempted to go to the sun and look at Wayne Rooney's chances on I'm a [00:47:34] celebrity, get me out of here, we may cover that, or we may cover the more serious story of lives at [00:47:38] risk as result of illegal knives flooding into this country, that's on [00:47:42] the express, all that and more on the Alex Armstrong, [00:47:46] tonight, late edition with me, Will [00:47:47] Kingston. [00:47:57] "I'm Michael Portillo. This is GB News, the people's channel, [00:48:01] Britain's news [00:48:02] channel. From cold [00:48:06] mornings to warm family branches, from football to [00:48:09] tennis, in the car, in the kitchen. GB News breakfast is [00:48:13] there with the stories you need and the conversations that [00:48:17] matter. 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It reports the shocking number of illegal [00:51:16] knives being seized at Britain's borders could be just the tip the [00:51:19] iceberg campaign as a warning in the first half of this. year [00:51:22] 2,700 od illegal blades including zombie knives [00:51:26] and macheties were confiscated by border force officers and [00:51:30] average of 15 every single day, this is compared with [00:51:34] 2,900 odd for the whole of 2025, [00:51:38] so his numbers are increasing rapidly, jamie, jam spoken about knife crime [00:51:41] in London and other cities in this country with people like Peter Blexley on this [00:51:45] show uh many many times, now not from Peter but from some [00:51:49] others you'll hear youupemisms, you you'll hear about you problems parenting, [00:51:53] you'll hear about the crisis amongst our youth. what i think this demonstrates [00:51:57] is if you get down to brass tax, this was not a problem pre mass [00:52:00] migration, knife crime has been an important problem and sad consequence of [00:52:04] multicultural. and sadly it isn't going away, i completely agree with you, [00:52:08] it is an important problem, and and that is backed up by where the crime's [00:52:11] happening, where stop and search needs to happen, and it is in all pockets of, [00:52:15] especially around London, where you've seen huge, mass immigration to the [00:52:19] country and cultures that think that stabbing someone is normal, it's [00:52:22] not something we think is normal in this country, now I think Zea is right with what [00:52:26] he's saying, it's the consequences, there are no consequences, [00:52:30] the there is not the feeling among the British people that those that are caught doing [00:52:34] this are going to get trouble and those that are prepared to bring the knives to this [00:52:38] country or use the knives deep down think it's maybe a worth [00:52:42] risk worth taking because the punishment is not severe enough, we do have knife [00:52:45] epidemic not just in London but across the country, it is now quite [00:52:49] normal to see someone's home being burggle with the machette, it's quite normal now, [00:52:52] Laura, it's worrying the increased import these [00:52:56] illegal knives, and where are they being advertised, is on social media on [00:52:59] TikTok, we look at the role of TikTok and glorifying violence that you can [00:53:03] live stream it and "we know that around 20% of all knife crimes involve young [00:53:07] teenagers, so well only in the last hour we saw footage of an illegal [00:53:11] migrant with what appeared to be knife in his mouth mouth celebrating it on [00:53:15] TikTok, yeah so I think from like citizen [00:53:18] perspective, it scares me reading these headlines and I i don't have a sense that the [00:53:22] police are top of it, um, Benjamin, your [00:53:26] final thoughts, I mean the number of crimes involving knife or a sharp object [00:53:30] fell by almost a tenthh in year on year, so [00:53:34] that suggests..." that they're coming down homicides at the lowest ever in London. I [00:53:38] don't what cultures think knife crime is normal, I find that a really [00:53:42] strange comment. uh, but look, any knife crime is obviously [00:53:45] unacceptable. I do find it interesting when sadiq khan talks about [00:53:49] homicide being down whilst conveniently ignoring that sexual [00:53:52] assault, that knife crime since he started as as mayor, [00:53:56] and indeed other crimes like for example acid attacks are dramatically up. I think there is [00:54:00] lot of cherry picking that goes on when it comes to London crime statistics from the maire, [00:54:04] but going to [00:54:05] have to cover that at another time, ladies and gentlemen, that's all that time we [00:54:09] have on Alex Armstrong tonight lade eddition, coming up now, [00:54:12] it is the late show live hosted by the one and only Ben [00:54:15] Leo. 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