GBN — The Camilla Tominey Show Highlights 20260920 170000 UTC 998 transcript segments Google Speech-to-Text API Automatic Transcription (Chirp) Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:00:02] It is Rokers here [00:00:04] in tonight, that's what makes us the [00:00:07] of fearless champion of [00:00:12] a of Britain. [00:00:13] of [00:00:14] in [00:00:18] a [00:00:23] of of Good evening, I'm Sophia Wensler with your [00:00:26] headlines at 6 o'clock. Andy Burnham has. Congratulated [00:00:30] Denmark and the US a deal to strengthen security in the [00:00:34] of Arctic after the two countries reached an agreement over Greenland. The [00:00:38] new [00:00:38] of trilateral agreement grants Washington permanent security control [00:00:42] of the semi-autonomous Danish territory in the Arctic, [00:00:45] of resolving [00:00:45] a diplomatic dispute sparked by President Donald Trump's threats to [00:00:49] seize it by force. Downing Street said the Prime Minister and his Danish [00:00:53] counterpart Meter [00:00:55] of in Fredriksen welcomed the US commitment to the region [00:00:57] in a cool this morning. It comes out. Mr. Burnam prepares to meet [00:01:01] Donald [00:01:02] in Trump of in person for the first time at the [00:01:04] of UN [00:01:04] of General Assembly in New York next [00:01:06] week. El Spencer says there are [00:01:11] of of similarities between how both his sister, Princess Diana and the Duke and Dutches of Sussex [00:01:15] have been treated by the media. Harry and Megan, who recently [00:01:19] returned to the UK from California six [00:01:21] years after stepping back from royal duties have been repeatedly [00:01:25] critical [00:01:28] of of the press. Speaking to the BBC, he said daily. skepticism, daily criticism [00:01:32] from the press must [00:01:33] of be [00:01:33] of cancerous influence on their lives. It would be really beholding [00:01:37] on people to learn from Diana's example, [00:01:40] in I'm not here to speak for Harry and Megan, but for [00:01:42] of anyone who's being destroyed in this [00:01:45] of way daily, it must be such cancerous influence in [00:01:49] their life. One [00:01:50] of the problems with Diana was, she's very, very sensitive to [00:01:55] of criticism, and of course, I'm sure most of your viewers now think, oh [00:01:58] she had this splendid life and it was all... amazing and she didn't, she was so privileged and [00:02:02] so [00:02:02] of perfect in so many ways, but she was really brought low by [00:02:06] all that criticism, and yeah, [00:02:08] I suppose it's a pity when I [00:02:09] of see echos. So Davy says he is confident [00:02:13] the Liberal [00:02:14] of Democrats [00:02:15] can take on Nigel Farage and Zak Palansky at the next election, [00:02:18] insisting he has [00:02:19] in the charisma [00:02:20] a to compete with both. Speaking at the party conference in Brighton, he [00:02:24] said if the Liberal [00:02:25] of Democrats were to form the next government, they would cut fuel duty and rail and [00:02:29] bus fairs. a [00:02:30] of cost of of around two billion pounds a [00:02:32] of year. At least two people have [00:02:34] been killed and six injured in one [00:02:38] in of the biggest Ukrainian drone attacks on the Moscow region overnight. Officials in Russia [00:02:42] of say more than 200 drones had been shot down and fires were [00:02:47] of of reported in several residential houses and an oil refinery. Meanwhile, in Ukraine, [00:02:50] mother and her two three-year-old children have been killed in the Kive [00:02:54] a region. The governor there says the area has endured constant hostile [00:02:58] attacks for more than a day. with 31 sites damaged in five [00:03:02] districts. you're up to date on GB News, [00:03:05] more an hour. for all the [00:03:08] in latest from GB News whilst you're on the go, get the [00:03:10] of GB News app. [00:03:13] of scan of the of QR code now to download or visit GB [00:03:17] of News.com/app. [00:03:25] of [00:03:30] Brigitt phillipson, the chair [00:03:33] of of [00:03:34] of of the Labour Party and the Minister for Women and equalities, joins me in the GB News studio now. lovely to see you this morning. thank you very much for joining me. i'm just [00:03:38] going to ask you a question about [00:03:39] of your previous guys as education secretary, because i [00:03:42] of thought the [00:03:42] in peza scores which kind of assess children around Europe and the [00:03:46] world were [00:03:48] of interesting. of england way ahead of [00:03:50] of Scotland and Wales which didn't adopt the [00:03:53] of reforms that Michael Gove introduced when he was education secretary. so [00:03:57] does [00:03:57] of that prove that Michael [00:03:58] of Gove's much loath? reforms were actually right? i [00:04:02] think [00:04:02] of it shows that there are lots of strengths in the English school system, [00:04:06] including in areas like Phonix, which was something that began under the last labour government, but [00:04:10] then was rulled out by Michael Golve, that was something I've always supported because it's [00:04:14] seen great results in terms of improving reading amongst children, [00:04:18] and children having a really strong foundation in [00:04:20] of literacy and numeracy is essential for all [00:04:22] of their lives. I think what the pizza results also do show us is that [00:04:26] in because [00:04:26] of the challenges we still face around some [00:04:28] of the deep-rooted inequalities and... gap [00:04:30] of between uh the poorest children and the more affluent children, if we can make [00:04:34] more progress on that, then the scores would be even stronger, and I [00:04:37] of think that is the area that needs more focus, how do we tackle some of those [00:04:41] big challenges that we see where young people in communities like mine don't [00:04:44] achieve all that they should [00:04:46] and how do we really you know f do further work on [00:04:50] that, [00:04:50] of because if we did I think we'd be seeing even better results, but we've got [00:04:53] of a quite a big and entrenched disadvantage [00:04:56] of gap uh within our school system. Okay, you're going to uh come out now with [00:05:00] new unit that will prioritize the [00:05:02] of white working class, you have in the past been accused of being [00:05:06] a class warrior, is this more kind of work on class, a [00:05:10] degree of popularism, perhaps to... appeal to reform voters, [00:05:13] what's this all about? so [00:05:16] I i've always believed it's right that we tackle inequality around sex, around [00:05:20] disability around race, but I don't think we've talked enough about class and how that has an [00:05:24] impact and what people go to achieve later on in their lives, so a community like [00:05:27] mine and sunderland, there are amazing young people of such talent who want to [00:05:31] achieve so much, but actually by virtue of where they're from, family background, [00:05:35] family income, class, they don't achieve all all that they should, and as a [00:05:39] country are poorer because of it, I also think government. 'when we're thinking about [00:05:43] public services, about how we deliver things, we shouldn't just be thinking [00:05:47] about areas like sex and race and disability, there essential that has to [00:05:51] continue, but also what about class? why is it for [00:05:54] example that you know, if you're from a working class background, you're far less [00:05:58] likely now to get on in the arts, in media, in law, things haven't improved in [00:06:02] some regards, some have, there has been progress, but government should be thinking [00:06:06] seriously about our job in widening opportunity, and this is what uh the new unit [00:06:10] is all about. do you still regard yourself to working class, I'm [00:06:14] from working class background, but I don't live a working class life now, no, and [00:06:18] I'm really fortunate that because of particularly [00:06:21] education, I have, you know, I've had enormous [00:06:24] opportunities, [00:06:26] you know, I feel very fortunate to have enjoyed, [00:06:28] and I want more young people in our country to have the chance to enjoy success, [00:06:32] now success takes different forms, but I want young people to have a sense of [00:06:35] purpose, a sense of belonging, and a real sense [00:06:39] that like they can be optimistic about the future, but [00:06:42] 'you no, when I was growing up, I heard overheard lots of [00:06:46] conversations about how whether we could afford to pay the bills, how are we going to make the [00:06:50] money out up, that's not something my children have to experience, [00:06:54] and I'm very fortunate and they're very fortunate, but you put down that degree of kind of, I suppose [00:06:57] social midbility from where you grew up to making it all the way to [00:07:01] Oxford down to education and indeed your mom [00:07:04] working, because I was just looking back at your history and is thinking, well you are half educated under a [00:07:08] conservative government, I think primary school, and then when you're in senior school'. a [00:07:12] labor government, so I asked about the Gove thing as well, because so often education [00:07:16] becomes so polarized, you have to accept that some of [00:07:20] your social mobility happened under the tories. I have always been [00:07:24] clear that the reforms of people like Kenneth Baker were critical and the [00:07:28] were, they were critical to my experience in the school system too, so the introduction of national [00:07:32] curriculum happened under a conservative government. I therefore find it a [00:07:36] bit old that the conservatives have drifted away from recognizing that all schools should be [00:07:39] teaching the national curriculum, that was the approach that I adopted. as education [00:07:43] secretary, but some these reforms are generational 20, 30, [00:07:47] 40 years, some of worked well, like the national curriculum, [00:07:51] others, I think, particularly around technical and vocational education, there is much more [00:07:55] to do so that young people to that point about enjoying success, so [00:07:59] that all young people are clear about where they're able to go in the [00:08:02] future, um, and university was the [00:08:06] right choice for me, I want young people to have genuine choice, whether that's [00:08:09] university, an apprenticeship, going to college, not to have things [00:08:13] closed down because of who they are and where they're from, but to have real choices [00:08:17] and sadly background determines those choices [00:08:21] for you a way that if you have more money and you [00:08:23] have you know if you're from better off family often the [00:08:27] choices that are there for you and the freedom that you have, they're just so much so much bigger, [00:08:31] it might not be better off or less well off, it might be parents who work and parents who [00:08:35] are on benefits, i just want to move to the economic situation because it's been [00:08:39] much reported, the forthcoming budget, i know you're not going to you're not the... you're not going to start [00:08:43] writing budgets on GB News, however, there's much talk about this 10 [00:08:47] billion pound black hole in the finances, there's much talk about inflation being up to [00:08:51] 3.1%. there's much talk about the 30-year guilt [00:08:54] yield being a all-time high or at least as high as it had been since the late [00:08:58] 90s. the questions are being asked about where's the money [00:09:02] coming from? Andy Burnham now is reportedly not ruling out early [00:09:06] election because he wants to scrap the manifesto which made key pledges on not [00:09:09] increasing tax so he can increase tax. This idea of stealth [00:09:13] taxes seems rather peculiar when we read today two [00:09:17] different stories: first of all, that PIP benefits are set to [00:09:20] double by 2030, that's up £9 billion [00:09:24] pounds. So let's tax more working people, to quote your [00:09:27] colleague, Pat McFaden to play benefits to those who don't work, [00:09:31] and then thanks to the scrapping the two child benefit cap, we now have [00:09:35] children with families with children, eight children or more, they're likely [00:09:39] to get £21, more that. would give them a [00:09:43] total benefits of 29,000, which is the starting salary of a [00:09:47] police officer, so people watching and listening are thinking to themselves, why i [00:09:51] being taxed more when the benefits bill is going [00:09:53] up? so on the budget, as you said at the start, um, [00:09:57] you'll know that I'm not going to engage in speculation and there'll be all manner of speculation that [00:10:01] we'll read in the weeks to come ahead the budget at the end of October, but to [00:10:05] the wider point about how we make sure we have a country where [00:10:08] everyone can get on, and that's what I believe, yes, I do want to see... more young [00:10:12] people in particular in work, the numbers of young people who are not in education, employment or [00:10:16] training are way too high, that's not good for the economy, it's not good for any of [00:10:20] us as as society, but it's also devastating for those young people [00:10:24] to... that point earlier about opportunity, there's no sense of h or opportunity if [00:10:28] you sat in your bedroom for years on and feeling totally directionless, there's more chance them [00:10:32] being like that if their parents are on benefits, isn't there equally, some the [00:10:36] hardest working people I know are people that are in low-paid jobs, they work [00:10:40] incredibly hard, they do the right thing, they don't earn huge amounts of [00:10:44] money and they deserve support to, and to that point about child poverty, [00:10:47] one the biggest indicators is to what whether you will go to live a good life where you [00:10:51] can contribute as whether you grow up in poverty, therefore tackling child poverty... 'lifting [00:10:55] children out of poverty is absolutely the right thing to do and there [00:10:59] is limit to what families are able to receive and it is right that that that there is [00:11:03] an upper limit on that equally, i don't believe that children should be [00:11:06] punished because of decisions that are taken by their [00:11:10] parents, but they do suffer the consequences and we see in the numbers of young people [00:11:14] who are out of work. okay, but there's a central deceat here, which is this notion, this [00:11:18] false notion that the welfare bill is any way being cut, it [00:11:21] isn't being cut, pip benefits'. set to double [00:11:25] by 2030, the welfare bill isn't coming down, so basically we're going to have a [00:11:29] budget on October the 28th which hammers people who are [00:11:33] working, people like your single mom brought you up and helped [00:11:37] you to socially mobilize all the way to Hartford College, meanwhile those who don't work [00:11:41] are going to get be given handout, and and people like Jim Radcliff are saying that is why [00:11:44] this country is going to the dogs, you can sympathize with that, working [00:11:48] people can see it very, very clearly, the working people that labor is meant to [00:11:51] represent. I'm not sure I want to be hearing too much from someone... the tax [00:11:55] exileus to what they think is to the direction of our [00:11:57] country, well he's a successful man who did wants to pay huge amount of tax into our [00:12:00] economy, and other people who are very high rate taxpayers are [00:12:04] leaving in their droves under this labour government, so we've just lost from Chris [00:12:08] Roccos 350 million quid taxes because the labour [00:12:12] government is hammering the rich too much. I do get the point about working people, [00:12:16] people who work hard expect to see rewards for that contribution. It's [00:12:19] why they will have seen in in recent months with the new prime minister Andy [00:12:23] Burnam a real focus on giving people. more breathing space around VAT [00:12:27] on electricity bills, around bus fairs, around business rates cuts for [00:12:30] hospitality, which is incredibly important part of our economy, I think that [00:12:34] shows the direction that this government wishes to go in, to recognize the [00:12:38] contribution that people make and to make sure that they are awarded for doing [00:12:41] so. there are of course always decisions for any chancellor a budget [00:12:45] is to the balance that you strike and how you seek to achieve that, but I think what you [00:12:49] have seen in the last two years is the public finances [00:12:52] stabilized, we've got the... growth in the last six months [00:12:56] of any economy in the G7, that's a good foundation to take into the budget, [00:13:00] but yes there are, there are choices ahead, and this and the economy cannot be [00:13:04] stabilized when guilt yields are higher now than they were under liz trust, [00:13:08] quite fairly people could accuse the labor government of crashing the economy, also on [00:13:12] the chancellor John Healey, sorry, why hasn't he resigned, he's [00:13:16] not going to meet this 3% of GDP pledge by [00:13:19] 2030, we have the prime minister admitting in the house of commons that [00:13:23] now the ambition is pathway to 20. 35, so why is John Healey [00:13:26] still in his post? so what both the chancellor and the [00:13:30] prime minister have set out is that we will get to 3 and a half percent and they'll [00:13:34] set that out next year in the spending review? yeah, but five years later than John [00:13:38] Healey said when he was defense secretary, he resigned, he [00:13:42] resigned over not getting to 3% by 2030, now he's [00:13:46] happy to get to 3% by 2035 because he's got he's [00:13:49] in a more powerful job and he's got a pay rise and it's another notch on his CV. this [00:13:53] is this man unfortunately, I'm... is decent person, but this is abject [00:13:57] hypocrisy from the chancellor, isn't it? so we've obviously got the budget [00:14:01] coming up next month, but we've also got the spending review next year, and that will be the [00:14:04] opportunity to set out that path to 3.5%. what I would say addition, [00:14:08] however, is this labor government is investing more in defense than any [00:14:12] time since the cold war, we are serious about defending our country, as much as he [00:14:16] wants, wanted when he was defense secretary, it's amazing how he's moved the goal [00:14:20] post, isn't it? well, we are serious about investing in defense given all the [00:14:23] threats that we see in. internationally and I think you can judge us by our record in terms [00:14:27] the defense investment plan and also the record levels of investment that we're putting into [00:14:31] defend, the opposition leader has suggested that he's fiddling while um [00:14:35] Russia threatens uh Europe once again we had very [00:14:39] serious threats from Putin over the weekend, I put to you [00:14:43] that if the pip benefit bill is going up by 19 billion [00:14:46] and John Healey isn't going to meet the 3% of GDP target then [00:14:50] you are prioritizing welfare over warfare, that's a perfectly fair criticism. [00:14:55] that you must accept, the threats that we face are grave and this is a really a [00:14:59] perilous time for for our country in terms the [00:15:02] international threats that we face and what we see. however, I'm [00:15:06] not really sure I want to hear the advice of Key Badnock on this topic, given that they never [00:15:10] reached the NATO level when they were in government, in fact it was under the last labor [00:15:14] government that we delivered it. they hollowed out the armed forces, they [00:15:18] didn't invest in our defense, we are now we are now doing [00:15:22] that, well they they were accused by... [00:15:25] on former defense secretary of hollowing out the armed forces, we are [00:15:28] investing in defense, [00:15:30] it is right that we do that, but I do agree that we need to look at how [00:15:33] we bring down the social security budget, because clearly we do not... want [00:15:37] people to be out of work, especially young people, but in order to do that we've got [00:15:41] to make sure that we're investing in what matters to get young people back [00:15:45] into work and back into training and education. very quick question on donations, because I know you've been [00:15:49] heavily critical of reform and this 72 million that's coming from those two crypto [00:15:53] billionaires, but hasn't democracy been for sale for [00:15:56] decades, particularly when it comes to the trade unions, giving money to [00:16:00] labor, labor then comes out with the legislation that they [00:16:03] support, so it's not even cash for questions, it's actually cash for laws. [00:16:08] "I will always defend the link between uh the labor party and our trade unions, [00:16:12] they help to found the labour party, they represent the voice of working people, but still [00:16:16] democracy for sale, no what that means is um, you [00:16:20] have um social workers, um, catering [00:16:23] assistants, teaching assistants, welders, they contribute a couple [00:16:27] of quid every month into their political pot through their [00:16:31] trading influences policy, so it's no different to what you're accusing [00:16:35] reform of, I think there is a world of difference." between someone on law pay [00:16:39] working a school, contributing through their trade union to some dodgy crypto [00:16:42] money drifting into British politics, [00:16:45] I just don't think rights bill, but they that comes [00:16:49] directly from often quite low-paid, low-paid workers who pay a [00:16:53] small amount every month to their union so that their union says to us [00:16:56] the labour party, we want to make sure that people in those jobs are [00:17:00] represented, I take that seriously and I'm really proud of what we've delivered, I think that is [00:17:03] fundamental to people seeing that work is the root out of poverty and [00:17:07] feeling that their contribution is being valued and [00:17:09] recognized. 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"if you want to have a [00:20:50] bold approach on reducing tax, which conservatives naturally do, you've got [00:20:54] to make sure you've done the hardyards on public spending first, and [00:20:58] kemy has been very, very clear about that, fair enough. it is also fair to say that budget [00:21:02] was four years ago, we're now looking [00:21:06] at the third labor budget coming up, each time labor have [00:21:10] had fiscal event, they have produced their forecasts and then [00:21:14] they've run out of money, and then they've run to the taxpayer for more [00:21:17] money, so accountability runs both ways." is the conservative party under [00:21:21] Knock has learned the lessons from that period, we got inflation down to [00:21:25] 2%, we got interest rates down, the labour party in government [00:21:29] has always seen the taxpair as a backstop because they can't control public [00:21:32] spending, [00:21:33] and they've let inflation now go up above 3%. on the high [00:21:37] borrowing cost today, so I think that 30-year guilt yield is now [00:21:41] at 5.2951 something, and that's actually higher than [00:21:45] under Liz Trust, but some economists point out that one the reasons [00:21:48] why... 'the market responds more negatively to shocks in [00:21:52] the British economy is because the is trust budget, is that fair? I don't [00:21:56] think so. [00:21:57] I i think people in the bomb market react to the government the day and [00:22:01] how serious that government is about making sure that when they lend [00:22:05] money to the government [00:22:06] that the the money is safe. And that's why under Rachel Reeves, [00:22:10] and I'm afraid under what seems to be a continuity chancellor, labor [00:22:13] have said, don't worry abond markets, if we run out of money because we're borrowing lot [00:22:17] and we're spending lot, we'll go back to the'. payer and will ask them to [00:22:21] pay more money, that's why they extended the personal tax threshold free [00:22:25] for another three years, that's why they've gone out to look for additional [00:22:28] tax didn't unfreeze the tax thresolds, [00:22:32] 2028, jeremy hunt put corporation tax up, so you're claiming to [00:22:36] be low tax party, but that wasn't in evidence when you were in [00:22:39] power, well let's be be clear, from the period after [00:22:43] 20 to 2019 to 2024, the public finances [00:22:47] were shot to pieces by the response on COVID. 400 [00:22:50] billion spent on various measures to help people in the NHS, to help people with [00:22:54] their businesses, to help people keep a float, nobody the time was [00:22:58] complaining about that, that money had to be paid back, some people were questioning the wisdom [00:23:02] of it and whether it was basically kind of bomb economic bomb waiting to go [00:23:06] off some years later, and of course now it has, well that might have included me, but my my [00:23:10] point is is on that is that that was befell the government, it [00:23:13] wasn't art and design the government, the problem for the labor [00:23:17] government now is that they have decided to spend more money, [00:23:21] they're the ones who increased boring already by more than 200 billion since they came [00:23:25] into office, so these are choices the labor chose [00:23:29] to furlow, mean we can have debate about that till the cows come home, there was also of course the [00:23:33] COVID loan fraud which saw the government basically fleased of [00:23:36] billions of pounds, so perhaps COVID wasn't managed that well, [00:23:40] you can't really, I understand what you're saying, because I i completely agree it was kind of [00:23:44] an unprecedented global event that nobody had prepared for, least of all [00:23:48] Boris Johnson, but [00:23:50] you can't fall back on that and then [00:23:51] not allow labor to blame global economic headwinds for their own [00:23:55] was, can you? well, no where it's relevant, [00:23:58] camilla, but I have to say that lot the problems in the UK [00:24:02] economy, lot the reasons why labor keep coming back to the taxpayers for [00:24:06] more and more, lot the reasons why labor forecasts about how much they're [00:24:10] going to borrow, how much they spend are always wrong, is because they have [00:24:13] charted a course themselves that says that public spending is [00:24:17] important, we want to borrow more money, and most of... because they won't [00:24:21] tackle welfare sure and people up and down this country cannot understand why [00:24:25] labor is prioritizing spending more and more money on [00:24:28] welfares and [00:24:29] not putting any money forward [00:24:30] for our defense on welfare by the way, so you've pledged to cut [00:24:34] the welfare bill by 23 billion, but today we learn from the Sunday Times that [00:24:38] PIP payments alone are going to go up by 19 billion [00:24:41] by 2030, so really that means that you're only cutting the [00:24:45] welfare bill by 5 billion because you're cutting a [00:24:48] cut. or you're cutting a rise, I should say, if you're [00:24:52] going to spend, if you're going to spend 23 billion less, but the bill [00:24:56] at least for PIP is 19 billion more, you're not cutting [00:25:00] welfare that by that much at all, well we the the the announcements you talk about that [00:25:04] 23 billion were the announcements we made at our conference last year, they were fully [00:25:07] costted types of changes we like to make, we've made further choices since then, so [00:25:11] for example we would reinstore reintroduce the two child benefit [00:25:15] cap, that's an extra two and a half billion pounds, we're looking at other ways in which we can look [00:25:19] to... produce my central point is it's kind of tinkering at the edges and [00:25:23] not really dealing with the substantive bill going up, i put it to bridget [00:25:27] phillipsen earlier when i think you watched it, i said there's a deceat at the heart of this government that you're cutting [00:25:31] welfare at all, if you look at welfare spending now versus what it will [00:25:35] be 203031, the bill is higher, so when they said they were [00:25:38] cutting welfare, they were cutting a cut to welfare, and i'm [00:25:42] saying that if you're on going to pledge to cut 23 billion from bill that's going to go [00:25:46] up by more than that or nearly as much, you're not cutting welfare either. [00:25:50] yeah, you might be more reminded to go with reform because they've pledged to cut 50 [00:25:54] billion, those are words, camilla, let me talk about reality, so I was member of part from [00:25:58] 2010, in Duncon Smith, conservative mp had done enormous amount of [00:26:01] work, sure, saying, work is at the heart of our welfare reforms, and we [00:26:05] brought for from 2010 to 2015 and then certainly from 2015 to [00:26:08] 2017, substantial changes in welfare, that meant we had to go through [00:26:12] processes of reviewing welfare for people already on welfare, as member of [00:26:16] parliament, having to deal with people who came in to say, mr. f, i've got [00:26:20] this issue with my welfare payments, it's not going to come, these were difficult conversations to [00:26:24] have, it isn't easy to make these changes, but the conservative [00:26:27] government did that over that period, we also then introduced a welfare [00:26:31] cap, the... we're going to cap the total amount of welfare and every [00:26:35] single year the chancellor had to come back to say whether or not he had [00:26:39] exceeded that cap. yes, what did labor do in 2019? they blew [00:26:43] the cap up and said we're not going to revew it again for five years. all right, let's [00:26:47] ask you what you will do, so we think that Kemy Badnock is going to announce that [00:26:50] you want to scrap inheritance tax, yes or no? well, we'll see what we're looking [00:26:54] a number of issues to do with [00:26:56] not ruling it out, not ruling anything out my job to rule things out. okay, why didn't [00:27:00] Andrew Griffith in his speech last week say? or commit to the [00:27:03] conservatives reversing the increase in employers national insurance that Rachel [00:27:07] Reeves brought in, well we have to see what the conservative team come up with and what Keny Benock [00:27:11] says about tax and expendition, my role, my role [00:27:15] as chief shadow chief sector treasury is to make sure that we're looking at ways in [00:27:19] which whatever tax measures we want to take, that we have we've done [00:27:23] the hard work on how we can afford that by bearing down on the [00:27:26] balloony welfare bill, making real cuts as you rightly said, but also in other [00:27:30] areas the public sector, it's It's really shocking, if you look back to [00:27:34] 2019, whilst the productivity in the private sector has gone up and up [00:27:38] and up, we're still in the public sector below where we were in [00:27:41] 2019 in terms of productivity, that means more tax payers money being spent for [00:27:45] fewer outcomes, but but the left will accuse you of tax cuts for the rich in [00:27:49] order to cut spending, well that's not what the sweets say, so sweden [00:27:53] that got got rid of inheritance tax, you're talking about inheritance tax, sweden [00:27:57] not known for not being, sweden actually is known for being very [00:28:00] egalitarian, sure, they got... the inheritance tax and what their [00:28:04] review shows many some years later is it actually what it did is it benefited people [00:28:08] because there were more people in work and the people and the economy grew [00:28:11] okay final question um because we're running out of time uh we've got a [00:28:15] story in [00:28:16] the mail on Sunday suggesting that Andy Burna might want to call early general [00:28:19] election touries aren't as ready as labor neither reform [00:28:23] perhaps Libdem's already we don't quite know speaking to Lisa Smart in just [00:28:26] moment you're not going to get enough votes to form [00:28:30] majority so you'll have to do deal with someone. so presumably talks with [00:28:33] reform are on the table? no, not been absolutely clear, there won't be [00:28:37] pact with reform, and again, [00:28:40] labor, i was, no, [00:28:44] i don't think i think concern is going to win, but what this country, the polling doesn't suggest that Richard [00:28:47] Filler at all, doesn't it? you're behind labour and reform, so [00:28:50] the tories aren't winning this at the moment, on the current numbers, you are not winning [00:28:54] this next election, are you? if we if we'd had this conversation in 2017 [00:28:58] when Mrs. May called the election, 20 points ahead, you just... 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[00:33:05] lisa smart, lovely to see you this morning, miss smart. now you're at your conference in [00:33:09] Brighton, we can see just about the peer in the background, which is very nice [00:33:13] too. let me put something to... you though, 72 seats, [00:33:17] one at the last general election, but your poll rating has just, it's just [00:33:21] stagnated, you're in the low teens, [00:33:24] and some people, sorry to break it [00:33:25] to you, are questioning whether Ed Davy should go the distance here, [00:33:29] he's giving his seventh speech to conference, isn't he just a bit of [00:33:33] a busted flush? we as liberal democrats debate our [00:33:37] policy and decide our policy here, you go to some other party conferences [00:33:41] and it's a series of fairly drab speeches after fairly drab speeches. [00:33:45] so there's real buzz and excitement here cuz you're right to mention the [00:33:49] record breaking 72 MPs, the most laddems ever, [00:33:52] the largest third party in parliament for a century, but we've [00:33:56] also had eight straight years of wins at local elections, we increased [00:34:00] the number of MSPs in the Scottish elections by [00:34:03] 150% in May, and we've the [00:34:07] only person who can convert votes into seats with this level of [00:34:11] efficiency is ed Davy and the lib dems, there is genuine... [00:34:15] buzz around the place at what might be coming down the tracks, [00:34:19] we're seeing new labour government and we're looking [00:34:22] towards the next general election, we've had some huge successes in [00:34:26] terms the policies we've persuaded them to adopt, and I'm [00:34:30] excited to see what comes in the future. well, when you [00:34:34] say that when people think of Ed Dave, they think of efficiency, that's not [00:34:38] quite what the polsters have discovered, and I'm not saying this [00:34:41] because I'm disappointed that Ed Dave couldn't... appear on my [00:34:45] show and has put you up instead, which I'm I'm very happy to speak to you, but [00:34:48] it is curious that the liv dem leader won't speak to me on GB [00:34:52] News on the day a epivol day in the middle the conference, but no matter, [00:34:56] so when voters were asked to describe Ed Davy in their [00:35:00] own words, 42% effectively said [00:35:04] don't know or [00:35:05] who, and [00:35:09] isn't that an opportunity? I would just say Camilla that talking to you a Sunday [00:35:12] morning is quickly becoming the high... of my conference [00:35:16] diary, thank davy uh [00:35:20] is has a real opportunity, so you're right, not everybody knows who he [00:35:24] is, and there are some politicians he say mad stuff and get lots of [00:35:27] coverage both online and on your channel, that's not Ed [00:35:31] Dave's way, he takes a really, really thoughtful approach to politics, [00:35:35] because there are some massive challenges affecting my constituence, affecting [00:35:39] all of our fellow citizens, and Ed takes the the thoughtful [00:35:42] position on things like social care, you will... miller that's far too many [00:35:46] families are not getting the care and support they need for their loved ones, there is a [00:35:50] real problem with how we're funding social care and it involves real thought, real [00:35:54] consideration and a proper plan. ed's been pushing for for us to think [00:35:58] about social care much longer than any other politician, partly because of his [00:36:02] own personal story of having cared for his nana and his mom and now caring for his [00:36:05] lovely son John. the last labour government under [00:36:09] Kier Starmer said they take three years to have look at how to fund social care, [00:36:13] that's far too long families. can't wait that long and so Ed was part the [00:36:17] conversation with the new prime minister over the summer, those cross-party talks, looking [00:36:21] at what needs to happen and how it needs to happen much more quickly. Ed's a [00:36:25] serious, thoughtful statesman. "and I couldn't [00:36:28] be prouder to have him as my party leader. I think serious, [00:36:31] thoughtful statesman may be overstating it a little bit, because [00:36:35] he has been known for his clown-like antics. However, I take your point on [00:36:39] care, and to be fair of all the party leaders, he is speaking from personal [00:36:42] experience and speaking with conviction on that subject. [00:36:46] However, isn't it the case that even with the last prime minister Kier [00:36:50] Starmer and now the new one, that he spent much of his time at PMQs [00:36:53] almost trying to curry favor with the labour government. Let's be honest." public [00:36:57] can't really distinguish you from labor because you [00:37:01] are against proposals to cut welfare, [00:37:05] um, you're very much in support of things like wealth taxes and mansion taxes, and [00:37:09] of course, despite being liberal democrats, you advocate [00:37:12] trying to reverse pass over the referendum and realigning with Brussels, don't [00:37:16] you? I don't think anybody would say that Ed Dave is agreed with [00:37:20] the government's approach to Donald Trump and some the wackier things he's been [00:37:24] doing, and talked about Trump and the governments. approach to Trump at [00:37:28] PMQs many times, he's also talked about care a lot [00:37:32] the time. I talked to constituents all every week all the [00:37:35] time, and they ask why can't you just get together across [00:37:39] party and work on things you agree with? There are too many big [00:37:43] problems facing our country, the threat from Russia and their aggression [00:37:47] in the east of Europe, and it's at the hybrid war that's going on in this country, [00:37:51] now people are scared about what the future might hold, and they want people to work [00:37:55] together for the betterment of our country. "now are you just talking [00:37:58] about wanting to work together because at the end the day the livedems are [00:38:02] there, as I say, your poll ratings in the low teens, you may have [00:38:06] some kind of role to play a coalition if one party [00:38:10] or the other doesn't have enough seats to form majority at the next general election, [00:38:14] so basically you're just keeping your options open, so we know that the libdems are [00:38:18] open to pact with labor and possibly even the greens on the [00:38:22] side and Ed Dave in recent times has said you're open to doing [00:38:26] pact with the concern." conservatives even after the disaster the [00:38:30] last coalition, Lisa [00:38:31] Smart? So I want the [00:38:35] to be as many Liberal Democrats elected after the next election as possibly [00:38:39] can be, because that gives us the most power, that gives the most chance of us uh [00:38:43] implementing our liberal democrat values in government, and we're a political party, we [00:38:47] exist to fight and win elections so that we can get stuff done and you do that being in government. [00:38:51] I think [00:38:51] it will be a really weird thing for us to spend lot of our time trying to stop [00:38:55] Kemy Beydenok's conservative Party. giving the keys to number 10 Downing Street [00:38:59] to Nigel Farage to then do some sort of deal with them after an election, so I [00:39:03] think that sort of scenario feels a little farfetched to me, but [00:39:07] people seeing councils up and down the country, good people working together when [00:39:11] there are areas we agree on, and that's actually one the things that surprised me [00:39:15] most, I was elected to parliament two years ago, and the amount of cross-party [00:39:18] working on issue by issue basis is much more than actually you see [00:39:22] on the tele, but [00:39:24] hang a minute, let me just try and drill into what you've just answered there. "are [00:39:28] you saying that you would entertain, and this is why Ed Davy's rhetoric has [00:39:32] changed somewhat, because I remember back in the day he said, we'll never enter into [00:39:36] coalition with the Tories again, they let us down, we had to abandon our scrapping of [00:39:40] tuition fees, etc, etc. You seem to be saying that in [00:39:43] order to stop Nigel Farage, you would entertain the idea of [00:39:47] pact with either Bade Knock or indeed [00:39:49] Burnham, no, what I [00:39:53] said was it would be a really weird thing for us to do to fight the conservatives." [00:39:57] tooth and nail as we are doing in many the seats across the country, I won my seat from [00:40:01] the conservative, there were lots of seats across the country where that was the case, and if you [00:40:05] look at the places where we are second, where we're closest to winning, lot of those are [00:40:09] currently held by the conservatives, it would be a really weird choice for us and it'd be quite [00:40:13] a sharp pivot to us for us to go from fighting them [00:40:17] tooth and nail a seat by seat basis and also some their [00:40:20] rhetoric where it's frankly it's quite hard to distinguish what Kenmy Bednock [00:40:24] saying from what Nigel Farage is saying. 'It would be a really [00:40:28] weird choice for us, we've had four sittings from the conservative party [00:40:32] defect to reform, and I think we're up [00:40:34] to 20 odd forma conservatives defect to reform, and they [00:40:38] now new candidates for the conservatives have to sign up to reforms [00:40:42] policy platform in order to stand for the conservatives, so I think that would [00:40:45] be, I would be very uh, I can't see a way in which that could [00:40:49] work. 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[00:46:36] second, UK inflation is very sticky and has been now probably [00:46:40] for five years or so, and third, there is concern about the [00:46:43] outlook for the government's fiscal stance, basically the public [00:46:47] finances, so high bank rates, sticky inflation, and worries about the [00:46:51] fiscal position hence. "the UK government is borrowing a very [00:46:54] expensive rate and that's adding to debt cost and adding to the [00:46:58] fiscal burden. how much of this is kind of legacy from [00:47:02] Liz Trust's mini budget and how much of it is as result the [00:47:06] labour government and its last two budgets? it's not so much [00:47:10] blaming one particular government or another, it's the fact that [00:47:14] in recent years neither the major parties has addressed the issue to [00:47:17] get that g, that growth rate higher and to get the [00:47:21] basically..." borrowing rate down, which requires the Bank of England to do better [00:47:25] job at keeping inflation under control, so I wouldn't blame it solely on the mini [00:47:29] budget is a combination of factors built up over the years, but [00:47:33] that picture across Europe, Dr. Lions, I mean is it because we've had [00:47:37] successive governments of all different hues sort of addicted to [00:47:41] spending, addicted to tax and spend, it's not only us where [00:47:44] we've seen this uh tax take reach kind of record post [00:47:48] war high, that's been replicated across other European nations. some of [00:47:52] it may also have something to do with mass [00:47:54] migration. well, yeah, in the [00:47:58] UK in terms of migration, it's often being seen by [00:48:01] economists, including the official forecast the OBR as [00:48:05] necessary way to get growth up. i don't necessarily agree [00:48:09] with that. obviously, if you [00:48:10] have skilled migration, that's a good thing, but when you have large scale migration, it [00:48:14] clearly adds the whole series of costs. the challenge in the [00:48:18] UK is that instead of investing, either investing in capital. [00:48:22] or investing in people, big corporations have gone for [00:48:26] employing or cheap, sometimes heavily [00:48:30] skilled, it has to be said, migrants as well, so migration is a [00:48:34] sort of not the cause the problem, it doesn't help, but it's a [00:48:37] legacy the issue in the UK, which is that for years we've not really [00:48:41] invested enough, indeed over decades, but coming back to the borrowing figures so [00:48:45] we don't get diverted, the challenge ahead the budget at the end of [00:48:48] October is that the growth figures are not going to be materially raised high. [00:48:52] "they're probably going to be better than the OBR, the official forecaster viewed in [00:48:56] April. Therefore, the chancellor needs to actually do few things, he needs [00:49:00] to recover his buffer, his fiscal buffer, which allows him to meet his [00:49:04] fiscal rules has been depleted, then he needs to borrow any [00:49:08] more to actually fund spending, so he needs to basically cover [00:49:12] the buffer and cover increased spending, there's a comprehensive spending review next [00:49:15] year, but we know spending is already very high, so the question then is [00:49:19] whether he basically borrows more or whether..." he taxes more, [00:49:23] he does actually have scope to actually borrow more, given that last [00:49:27] week the Bank of England decided to sell less get guilts to the [00:49:31] market, we're borrowing less in terms of number of guilts we sell this [00:49:34] year, so the borrowing might be able to be one root out of it, [00:49:38] but unfortunately taxes are likely to increase as well, but I [00:49:42] think he's going to go down the middle ground of not going for massive tax [00:49:45] increases because the markets would see those tax increases as not been [00:49:49] good for growth, so the challenge is unless you... gets spending under [00:49:53] control and and unless growth starts to pick up, then the [00:49:57] chancellor basically has to decide whether to borrow more or tax more. [00:50:01] yes, but are you saying it's a choice between borrowing and taxing rather than cutting [00:50:04] spending because we're dealing with socialists? no, there's [00:50:08] a look, there's three things i've argued before [00:50:12] in this program, one is sensible fiscal policy, and therefore the policy on that [00:50:16] front has to be to get public spending under control, simple [00:50:20] end of. second, we need to actually have a... sensible monetary policy that [00:50:24] gets inflation under control and that would allow borrowing yields to come [00:50:27] down, and third, you need to get growth up, growth up [00:50:31] requires supply side reform, that doesn't come overnight, [00:50:35] at the moment it's a k-shape economy in the UK, in terms of think the [00:50:39] capital k, parts the economy are going up, parts of it are going [00:50:43] down, the parts that are going down are the mory bound interest rate [00:50:46] sensitive sectors, there's lots of talk about taxing housing more, [00:50:50] mansion tax coming down to [00:50:52] a low level that highlights the real problem when you go down the wealth [00:50:55] route of taxing you start to actually find that you start to hit the middle [00:50:59] classes, housing is already the [00:51:01] biggest financial asset for most people in the [00:51:05] UK, it's the largest asset class, it's already taxed [00:51:09] incredibly heavily, if you start to tax it even more [00:51:12] then it hits the market really hard, and bear in mind that if you [00:51:16] start to lower the mansion tax threshold then you start to do what happened in [00:51:20] other countries, you deter people from upgrading their [00:51:24] property, and who gets hit by that? sold traders, [00:51:27] the white van man, and [00:51:29] you start to have a real negative economic consequence, so coming [00:51:32] back to the chancellor's budget, tax increases that seem simple [00:51:36] politically, have very damaging economic impact. final [00:51:39] question, how much do you think the welfare bill needs to [00:51:43] come down by for them to provide for some more fiscal [00:51:47] head room for some the suggestions you've made? we've got reform pledging to [00:51:51] cut that bill by 50. billion, we got [00:51:53] the tories pledging to cut it by 23 billion, and yet we learned [00:51:56] today that pip payments alone are going to go up by 19 billion [00:52:00] by the end of this parliament, right? in answer to your question, the [00:52:04] markets, will take the view that you cut welfare spending quite [00:52:07] significantly, but [00:52:09] you need to cut it a credible way. that needs to be credible [00:52:12] economically and it needs to be credible politically. as we saw year [00:52:16] ago when Starmer and Reeves were there, they tried to trim the pace of [00:52:20] welfare spending increase by about five billion, tiny amount in the [00:52:24] scheme of things and that caused upward with the back benchers. so you [00:52:28] need to have a credible plan, economically you want to actually do it as soon [00:52:32] as possible, but the markets realized that... it probably needs to be [00:52:36] phased in and it needs to be phased in maybe over time, so coming back [00:52:40] to your question, quantifying it, picking the number out the air [00:52:43] is not the issue here, it needs to be meaningful and significant [00:52:47] reduction in the welfare bill, for instance in terms the triple lock [00:52:51] which everyone picks up, that adds that [00:52:55] so far over the last few years has probably added 12 and a half billion since it was [00:52:59] introduced back in 2011, so that's small [00:53:03] but not that big in the sc things, you really need to make [00:53:06] inroads into the big areas and that's the political [00:53:10] damaging cut issue, so coming back to your question, the [00:53:14] markets need to see meaningful significant reduction in the [00:53:17] welfare bill, it needs to be seen, it's credible, not just economically [00:53:21] but politically, but it needs to be seen not in isolation, but in terms [00:53:25] of an overall economic package that has some economic [00:53:29] vision and some prospects to get economic growth higher, [00:53:33] buse really we need to get economic growth. the g up and we need to get [00:53:36] inflation and eventually that interest rate that we borrow [00:53:40] at [00:53:41] down. [00:53:55] today clouds overhead, turtals [00:53:59] and within. box solar sponsors the [00:54:02] weather on GB news. Hello there, good evening, welcome [00:54:06] to your GB News weather update from the Met Office. It's going to be quite a warm [00:54:10] start to the week ahead before temperatures gradually return to average towards the [00:54:14] end the week. It should be mostly dry, though we are expecting some rain [00:54:18] towards the north, and it's a fairly similar picture as we head our way into the [00:54:21] overnight period, high pressure meaning mostly dry conditions for much of England [00:54:25] and Wales, but a warm front eventually crossing the far northwest, so that'll [00:54:29] drag in some cloud across Scotland, Northwest England and Northern Ireland, and as [00:54:33] we progress through the early hours of... morning there'll also be some rain and drizzle [00:54:37] around, but to the south of this it should remain mostly dry, we'll see [00:54:41] quite a few clear spells across England and Wales so any rural spots [00:54:44] temperatures could get down to between 2 to 4°grees [00:54:48] celsius. now to start off the day across parts [00:54:52] the north, rather cloudy and quite damp at times, particularly across any western [00:54:55] hills where there could be some quite persistent rain and drizzle, also quite [00:54:59] cloudy and gray start towards northern island, some spots of rain and drizzling [00:55:03] places also towards... northwest England, a bit of cloud across [00:55:07] western areas of Wales, southwest England, but actually for many areas of England and [00:55:10] Wales it should be quite a dry and bright star and it should warm up quite [00:55:14] quickly through the course the morning after that chilly start, but [00:55:18] towards the north it's likely to remain quite cloudy, still spells of rain and [00:55:22] drizzling places, especially across western hills of Scotland, perhaps a [00:55:26] bit cloud at times across Wales and southwest England, northern England [00:55:29] also the best the sunshine likely across the far south and southeast, [00:55:33] but for all it is going [00:55:34] to be... warm day, temperatures widely in the low to mid-20s and feeling [00:55:38] quite humid towards the end the day as well. now Tuesday is [00:55:42] very similar picture towards the north, still often quite cloudy with some rain and [00:55:46] drizzle, the best the sunshine across the far south. some of this rain [00:55:50] could turn a little bit heavy as well as it slowly sinks its way [00:55:53] southeastwards, and for the rest the week, mostly dry, settled, [00:55:57] still a little bit of rain across the north and temperatures eventually returning more [00:56:01] towards average for this time the year. today cloud..." 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