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[00:00:20] good evening it is 9ine o'clock I'm
[00:00:22] of Nana Aquire in for Alex Armstrong tonight if you abuse Britain's
[00:00:26] of hospitality we will permanently remove you. Yes, well,
[00:00:30] evidently
[00:00:31] of not, a shocking
[00:00:32] of
[00:00:32] of investigation of shows that nearly
[00:00:35] of 7, of foreign in
[00:00:38] of of criminals who
[00:00:40] of of of of should have been of deported are still living in this country,
[00:00:43] of a five years after they were released of from prison. Also, it is going to be challenging,
[00:00:46] of we won't take risks uh with uh people's living standards
[00:00:50] or uh with the economy as a whole.
[00:00:54] of Reports today that the prime minister is plotting
[00:00:56] of in early election in order to secure a
[00:00:58] of mandate for income tax. rises and before too long, labor will go
[00:01:03] in to to the tap
[00:01:04] of of the imaginary limitless credit card to find we really do have nothing
[00:01:08] left. also, thousands of
[00:01:11] of lethal,
[00:01:11] of illegal of zombie knives are being intercepted at UK borders in a massive
[00:01:15] influx on last year, plus
[00:01:19] rich sunac has reignited
[00:01:22] of of a the conversation about what makes Britishness with very moving
[00:01:25] a statement, does adopting the
[00:01:26] a culture and
[00:01:27] of customs of a
[00:01:27] of country mean
[00:01:28] of that you have a right to be
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[00:01:32] conviction and bring to an end one
[00:01:35] of of the world's biggest unsolved
[00:01:37] crimes.
[00:01:40] in a shocking revelation on the prime Madeline Macan
[00:01:43] of of suspect: the convicted pedophile had admitted that he was just yards from her
[00:01:47] apartment on the
[00:01:47] of night that she vanished. top journalist who
[00:01:50] of covered the case joins me on the
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[00:02:04] so tonight's panel, businessman and activist Adam brooks,
[00:02:08] political commendator Alice
[00:02:10] a
[00:02:11] a of of a Grant, of and former labour minister Bill
[00:02:12] a Rammel, and on the
[00:02:14] of case for early general
[00:02:15] a election, Danny Dyer has spoken, don't know the prime minister is mate, do
[00:02:19] you, yeah, no, but
[00:02:21] of who is
[00:02:21] of he?
[00:02:22] I don't understand, anyone vote for him, buse I didn't vote for
[00:02:24] of him, yeah, huge two hours coming up, but first your latest
[00:02:28] news with Sophia Winsley.
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[00:02:37] Nana, of thank you, and good evening, your headlines at two minutes
[00:02:41] of of a past of nine. El
[00:02:41] of Spencer has accused King Charles of gas lighting him after he made series of
[00:02:45] claims about the king in his new book. The earl went to say
[00:02:49] there are similarities between how both his
[00:02:52] of sister princess
[00:02:55] of in Diana and the duke and Ductors of Sussex have been treated by the media. Harry and Megan, who recently
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[00:03:03] of have been repeatedly critical
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[00:03:06] of Speaking to
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[00:03:09] of criticism of from the media must be cancerous influence on their
[00:03:12] lives. It would be really beholding on people to learn from Dana's
[00:03:16] example, I'm
[00:03:17] of not here to speak for
[00:03:18] of Harry and Megan, but for anyone who's being destroyed in
[00:03:22] this way daily,
[00:03:23] of it must be such cancerous
[00:03:29] of of influence in their life. One of the problems with Diana was, she's very, very... to criticism, and of course i'm
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[00:03:37] and she didn't, she was
[00:03:38] so privileged and so perfect in so many ways, but
[00:03:41] of she was really brought low by all
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[00:06:15] "the labour government hates millionaires and wants to punish
[00:06:19] innovative success in Britain. It is as simple as
[00:06:22] that: ambitious folk who want to create jobs and drive investment,
[00:06:26] it has been made very clear that they are simply not welcome
[00:06:30] here. Chancellor John Healey looks set to lower his
[00:06:34] fantasy mansion tax to 1.5 million pounds, which
[00:06:37] means that some 270,000 homes will have to
[00:06:41] fork out. more, but what if the so-called mansion owners
[00:06:45] have had enough? what if they want to leave Britain? well, they might
[00:06:49] even be faced with settlement tax. a survey by the
[00:06:53] wealth club, 61% of clients said that they had considered
[00:06:57] leaving the country over tax fears and britain's
[00:07:01] biggest tax payer, the owner of betting company, betfred, said that he
[00:07:05] is too old to join them, but he has pleaded with the family to
[00:07:09] flee, and hedge fund boss Chris Focus. this
[00:07:12] month moved his tax residency to Greece, taking his
[00:07:16] 330 million pound year tax, yes,
[00:07:19] 330 million with him, but still
[00:07:23] progressive left, he's harp on, pining for those who, those
[00:07:26] two magic words, wealth tax,
[00:07:30] economically, what can you do differently, a wealth tax, possibly the super
[00:07:34] rich? uh, I do believe we need a greater sense of
[00:07:37] fairness and people feeling that things are are
[00:07:41] are being done in,
[00:07:42] in the right way and fair way, so now inios
[00:07:46] founder sir Jim Rackliff, whose estimated personal fortune is
[00:07:50] around 15 billion pounds, has faced backlash for his
[00:07:53] assessment the UK, at the moment I think the UK
[00:07:57] is on the slide, and we need politicians who will make decisions which
[00:08:01] are good for the country, not good for themselves and their
[00:08:04] party. Well, it seems to me that they are pushing common sense
[00:08:08] too, as labour minister Brigit Philipson hit back. I'm not sure I want to be...
[00:08:12] hearing too much from someone who's attacks exiles to what they think is to the direction of our
[00:08:15] country? well, you are driving people like him out
[00:08:19] the country in the first place. despite not being the most rivoting public
[00:08:23] speaker, new shadow chancelor Andrew Griffith put this labor cabinet to
[00:08:27] shame earlier this week. analysts showed that he was he has more
[00:08:31] private sector experience than not just Miss Villipson, but all
[00:08:34] ministers put together. but don't worry everyone, Andy
[00:08:38] Burnham has a plan for our economy. will take power out.
[00:08:42] of here and carry it into every post code in the
[00:08:46] land, good growth in every post code, drives good growth in
[00:08:50] every post code. good growth in every post code, hope in every hope in
[00:08:54] every heart. yeah, that's right, Andy. Andy Burnan plans to channel
[00:08:58] former US president Barack Obama and make his debut late at the
[00:09:01] Labour Party Conference speech. all about, well, someone needs to
[00:09:05] tell Andy that hope doesn't fix the
[00:09:08] economy. But get this: there are also reports today
[00:09:12] that "the prime minister is plotting early election. Why
[00:09:16] would that be? You guessed it. In a desperate bid for income tax
[00:09:20] hike mandate of course. So what is the solution to labor's anti-business
[00:09:23] tirade? Well, reform has proposed a Britannia card,
[00:09:27] similar to the one that the prime minister Maloni introduced in Italy. Nagel
[00:09:31] france said it will encourage wealthy investors back to the UK, as it
[00:09:35] is a one of 250,000 pound up front payment in
[00:09:39] return for a 10-year residency. "but I have
[00:09:43] simpler message for Chancely and this entire labor government: cut
[00:09:47] welfare, cut taxes, disincentified scroungers and
[00:09:50] reward those who really want to make difference in Britain. Before too
[00:09:54] long, labor will go back to the magic money tree to find we
[00:09:58] really have nothing left. Well, let's get the thought
[00:10:02] of my panel: businessman and activist Adam Brooks, political commentator Alice
[00:10:06] Grant, and former labour minister Bill Rammel. All right, Adam
[00:10:10] Brooks, you're a business owner, you've got..." great business in your pub, but obviously
[00:10:13] it's it's been tricky, it's very tricky and
[00:10:17] uh the last chancelor Rachel Reeves made it almost
[00:10:20] impossible, her first two budgets added around 30,000 to...
[00:10:25] yearly costs, wow, that's you know thousands and thousands of extra
[00:10:29] pints year that I have to sell uh, I think we've got the highest tax
[00:10:33] burden in almost 90 years right now,
[00:10:36] services are the worst they've ever been, what are we getting
[00:10:39] back for our hard work and the risk of me putting my
[00:10:43] house on the line with my pub lease and most
[00:10:46] businesses uh you have to give guarantee mine is my
[00:10:49] house so I'm working for basically the government a
[00:10:53] £5.50 p. £230 goes to the government,
[00:10:57] 20p roughly goes to me, I've got a partner with no
[00:11:01] risk who takes 10 times what I take, how is that
[00:11:05] fair, and they're driving people out, I know so many
[00:11:09] that say to me, we're not thinking of leaving yet, but we're putting it in place so
[00:11:13] if we have to, if it gets any worse we can go,
[00:11:17] and I've got to say I'm thinking the same thing, I do not want to bring up my
[00:11:20] kids a place where
[00:11:22] you know my business is getting taxed and...
[00:11:25] of of money, but the crime on the streets is out of control, it's not
[00:11:29] safe, so what are we getting back? and so many brits are thinking
[00:11:33] that um, and I cannot see it getting better with this budget. I think they're going to come
[00:11:37] even more uh tax from businessmen and you're going to see
[00:11:41] more job losses. 150,00 lost their jobs in hospitality
[00:11:44] because of Rachel Reeves and she was warned about it and she just
[00:11:48] ignored us, because
[00:11:49] they haven't got clue, Bill Rammel, they haven't got clue, have they? Well, let's look
[00:11:53] at the reality. and it's a challenging situation, particularly
[00:11:57] with the war uh in Iran, affecting
[00:12:01] um prices, affecting the economy, but if you compare like for like
[00:12:05] our growth rate is the highest in the G7 uh in the first nine months of
[00:12:09] this year uh, there are challenges yes, but I think what people want,
[00:12:13] and labor is not anti-business, we want people to succeed, but
[00:12:17] what we want is fairness, um, I, I think, and I think your
[00:12:21] idea that I think Berner may be tempted to go for early.
[00:12:25] election, but the idea he go for that early general election and
[00:12:29] commit to raising taxes on ordinary people, I think is for the
[00:12:33] birds. um, you know, when you say fairness,
[00:12:37] what do you mean? okay, uh, an example, and I just read
[00:12:40] report before coming in here this evening, a submission has gone in to John
[00:12:44] Healey to the treasury um, suggesting that you
[00:12:48] equalize capital gains tax, and bearing in mind that Nigel
[00:12:52] Lawson in thatcher's government in the 80s actually... equalized
[00:12:55] capital gains tax with income tax because at the moment the system
[00:12:59] is biased against working people in favor of people with assets and
[00:13:03] in return for that you raise you raise the tax threshholds
[00:13:07] effectively cutting tax for the vast majority of people not for the people with the
[00:13:11] assets but but when you have an asset so for example let's let's take
[00:13:14] £1200 i have £12,00 pound h 1200 pounds i put it a high interest account
[00:13:18] 5% interest account 1200 pound remains 12,00 pounds it goes up and up and up
[00:13:22] as i've been promised i don't touch it i have I'm going to
[00:13:26] invest my £12,000 in stocks and shares or something that
[00:13:29] is wealth tax related, yes so maybe a
[00:13:33] property, just for example if you could get one £2,00 pounds, unfortunately
[00:13:37] for me those stocks and shares or whatever
[00:13:38] it is go down, I get maybe I i'm they down to being
[00:13:42] worth 6,00 pounds okay, I make no capital gain, I lose
[00:13:46] 6,00 pounds, but I've taken all the risk, maybe in five years that
[00:13:50] £12,000 just if we've got nice interest rates might be 13,000 so I've made
[00:13:54] a grand. "my six,
[00:13:55] my PS2,00 pound is 6,00 pounds, I've lost money, so surely
[00:13:59] I should get something for being prepared to take a risk, because because when
[00:14:03] I invest in that risk, that can go down as well as
[00:14:07] up, so it's not the same as that's why they shouldn't be
[00:14:11] equal, well right, if you equalize capital gains tax, it would only affect
[00:14:14] 0.4% of people in the country, yes, but that's not the point,
[00:14:18] no, no, no, but the point is that nurse working
[00:14:22] in the national health service pays a high" rate of tax
[00:14:26] than someone living off their assets and then selling those
[00:14:31] think assets, that's tax
[00:14:33] i don't fairness, some people on benefits make more than people at work, how is that
[00:14:36] fair? if you're talking about fairness then i would hope the party will look at that,
[00:14:40] alice, yeah, absolutely, mean they use these slogans like fairness and
[00:14:44] hope, but the system currently is so bitterly unfair, the fact is
[00:14:48] young professional starting my career, i know that you know if i am
[00:14:51] successful i'll be soon giving nearly half my income to the state.
[00:14:55] "and when you look at that state and the way it's allocating capital, whether it's to
[00:14:59] net zero or to you, as as you said, like we have a
[00:15:03] bloated welfare state um, which is just a complete
[00:15:06] waste of everyone's of everyone's money at the minute, it's awful, and they're
[00:15:10] not actually fixing any the root issues, no, so that is deeply
[00:15:14] unfair, it's it's politics of envy, like what they did with the private
[00:15:18] schools, hardly any net gain if any at all, we've seen schools and
[00:15:21] businesses close down because of it, exactly they'. that the
[00:15:25] farmers really no net game, they calls themselves murders
[00:15:29] labor for that, and there's there's talk that they might have to
[00:15:32] use, who was deciding to do these really childish
[00:15:36] punishable things? for not a
[00:15:39] lot from it, so why do they do
[00:15:42] it? so when
[00:15:43] they talk about fairness, as you say, some people in this country are
[00:15:47] prepared to take risks, at the moment everyone i know in
[00:15:50] business at my sort of level, small business is thinking, no
[00:15:54] chance, the risk is too high, because if it goes right, the
[00:15:58] labour government's going to take half of your money if not more, and if it goes
[00:16:02] wrong we're going to lose our house,
[00:16:04] so so many people if
[00:16:06] you put
[00:16:08] in in front them would normally take it under labor are not so
[00:16:12] our economy is just going to go for cliff and you might say we're with the
[00:16:15] highest growth in the g7 what's the growth
[00:16:19] bill it's about 0.7% pathetic yeah
[00:16:23] but but that's that's that's the global economy you can't you
[00:16:26] can't work and live
[00:16:29] with everything when i filled
[00:16:33] up my car with petrol today it was 178 liter.
[00:16:37] before the Iran war, it was 134 liter, that has had a
[00:16:41] big impact on all of us, but she could reduce remove VAT or
[00:16:45] something, she's done nothing to help, in fact the government benefits when the prices
[00:16:49] are high, so surely she could make some sort of some sort
[00:16:52] of rachel
[00:16:55] rece when when it happened, yeah, sorry, but at the time she obviously buse you're talking about Rachel Rees,
[00:16:59] but right now obviously it's John Healey, sorry I, I lose count because they keeping, they
[00:17:03] keep moving around like I'm not going to preempt the budget, I think there will be...
[00:17:07] some moves in the budget, but my point that I'm making is that you're you're talking about
[00:17:11] the war being really bad for fuel prices and I'm saying the government didn't have
[00:17:15] done nothing to assist uh in reducing those prices that will have a real
[00:17:19] effect on normal people, well as I said the budget's in few weeks
[00:17:22] time
[00:17:23] I think no but I think you are going to see some moves on that
[00:17:26] front and and you know overall there've been certainly since Burnman's been prime minister there's been
[00:17:30] other moves to support people from the cost of living
[00:17:34] um but there are big challenges there and look. 'It doesn't tend to
[00:17:38] support anybody who's got something though, so if you've got a business, if you've got
[00:17:42] this or you've got that, they say, oh, you don't need any help, which is going to help the people
[00:17:46] on welfare, those poor people, we're going to help the people, it's not people on welfare, it's
[00:17:49] people working damned hard who are going out to work
[00:17:53] five days a week and then finding that they're paying
[00:17:57] relatively higher taxes than people who are earning money
[00:18:01] off of assets, I i think the vast majority of people don't see that as being
[00:18:05] fair, imagine how they feel when they know that the woman'. the road with six
[00:18:08] kids, doesn't want to work, could work, doesn't want to work, he's getting more money
[00:18:12] than them through benefits, that's how people are feeling, you
[00:18:16] are, you are the party the sherkers and not the workers and
[00:18:20] that that's an empty slogan, adam, we want, we want
[00:18:24] genuine welfare reform with incentives to get people back
[00:18:27] to work, can i just say it's just as empty of growth in every post code, hoping every heart, in fact
[00:18:31] i think that's empties, now i don't think we should underestimate how
[00:18:35] disincentivized everyone is,
[00:18:46] he ridiculous, left,
[00:18:46] no um, wonder or if you're a young professional and you just see the future is pretty
[00:18:50] bleak, and if you're on welfare similarly, why would you work
[00:18:54] if you're being paid so much, are you tempted to go to Australia or any of those other
[00:18:58] lovely places? you know, I'm I'm committed to
[00:19:02] England, but I have to say I do look over at the United States and I see how much growth they
[00:19:06] have in their economy. 'I do see how dire the situation here and I think
[00:19:10] that is something that often I often think about, we need to pursue a growth agenda and that
[00:19:14] really means cutting taxes, can you not see that so far we've not really
[00:19:17] heard much about growth, we hear much of we hear tax,
[00:19:21] mansion tax now is another one, bringing down the price to 1.5
[00:19:25] million potentially in this year they thought it was going to be 2 million that you'd be taxed the
[00:19:28] threshold - where's the growth, well I've just made
[00:19:32] the point that
[00:19:33] you know we we've we've got the highest in the G7 and that's the like for'.
[00:19:37] comparison, yeah, yeah, but we
[00:19:41] need right, we need to go further, so for example,
[00:19:45] and the plans are in place, but deregulation the
[00:19:49] planning system, so that we drive house building that can material
[00:19:53] impact on growth rates and we need other measures like that, and the
[00:19:56] government came in with agenda of doing those things to
[00:19:59] drive them forward, who's going to build those houses, bill, i don't think there's a
[00:20:03] shortage of builders, who's going to build the houses that labor are promising to build?
[00:20:07] um, we we need to uh equip people and train
[00:20:11] people to take on those jobs, how long will that take, going
[00:20:15] to take a full, it's going to take a full parliament. the idea that reforming the planning
[00:20:18] legislation is going to actually drive any growth in our economy is just not true. what we
[00:20:22] really need to be doing is incentivizing investment in this country, and that is
[00:20:26] going to be predominantly from people who have the money. we're living a global economy
[00:20:30] with people who are enormously rich and we want them to come and
[00:20:34] invest here in our businesses, we want them to bring their assets here to... bank in
[00:20:38] Britain, but they're all leaving because of a wealth tax, we can't have
[00:20:41] socialist, they're not leaving, well lot them are leaving and and what happens when they do leave is
[00:20:45] the tax burden falls on the middle and the working class, so we now have to make
[00:20:49] up the 30'. million that we've lost uh due to um the
[00:20:53] government scaring the wealthy people away, but hey ho, you could
[00:20:56] potentially have win yourself 110,00 pounds of worth of goodies
[00:21:00] in our great British giveaway, unlimited holidays in your own,
[00:21:04] four-birth motor home worth 65,000 and also
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[00:26:25] former labour leader, Lord Kinnek is calling for compulsory voting in the
[00:26:29] UK. he says that it could strengthen democracy and backle
[00:26:32] low turnout. Lord Kinnek and former home secretary Lord
[00:26:36] Blunket are backing an amendment to the representation the people
[00:26:39] bill. The proposal would reportedly introduce a
[00:26:43] 10-pound fine for those who failed to vote with exemptions
[00:26:47] for some people. Meanwhile, Australia has had compulsory voting at
[00:26:51] federal elections since 1924. Eligible citizens who
[00:26:55] failed to vote without valid reason can face a $20
[00:26:59] penalty, which is around £14. Well now. by
[00:27:02] political analyst, consultant Andrew Wilsom and labor peer
[00:27:06] Lord George Foulks. All right, welcome. Let's talk, let's
[00:27:10] start with you, Andrew. What do what do you make of
[00:27:14] this? Uh, good evening. Um, there's
[00:27:18] a fundamental irony actually in this, because the highest
[00:27:22] turn out of any electoral event in my lifetime was in
[00:27:25] 1992 election, and John Major got more votes than any prime
[00:27:29] minister in history, and that's how much people did not want. New Kinnek to be
[00:27:33] prime minister um so I think you should be somewhat careful about
[00:27:37] what he issues for. Fundamentally though,
[00:27:40] it is liberal. That little word compulsory
[00:27:43] means I want to use the power the states to compel
[00:27:47] somebody else to behave in the way that I think they should. And
[00:27:50] that's, there's not many things under British law where that's the case, and I
[00:27:54] think we should be very wary about introducing another one. Well, I think
[00:27:58] I'm just thinking about what you said about Lord King, well if he lost with the...
[00:28:02] is turn out then you did want him to not want compulsory voting,
[00:28:06] suppose, but he does, so he's even thinking that even though there's a massive
[00:28:10] turn out, you'd rather that everybody got on with it. okay uh,
[00:28:14] lord george, what do you think on this? hello,
[00:28:18] it's a good to be back on reform tv,
[00:28:21] um, i'm in, i'm move, i'm supporting the
[00:28:25] amendment which is being put forward by varaness royal, neil kinek,
[00:28:29] david blanket and myself uh, because compulsory
[00:28:33] voting has been so successful in Australia, the turnout
[00:28:37] in Britain now is under 60%, which means
[00:28:41] that 40% of registered voters are not having their
[00:28:45] interests represented in parliament, in Australia it's
[00:28:49] over 90%, and that means what's
[00:28:52] happening at the moment is that it's the older people, the richer
[00:28:56] people and those who own their own houses who tend to
[00:28:59] vote, poorer people, younger people, renters
[00:29:03] are less likely to vote and that means the interests the richer,
[00:29:07] older, people like me in fact are better
[00:29:11] represented than the younger uh people who rent their
[00:29:15] own houses, so I think it's a move in the right
[00:29:18] direction, the representation the people bill is now in the house of lords
[00:29:22] and our amendment will be discussed at the committee stages
[00:29:25] and report stage in the next few weeks, well if
[00:29:29] we have reform TV, but I agree with you, I agree with you George.
[00:29:33] I don't know why you're calling this reform TV, you now you don't know what people vote, but
[00:29:37] I think it's funny George, I agree with you, I was
[00:29:40] listening to you and your two colleagues discussing
[00:29:44] things with Bill,
[00:29:45] and I'm going to put forward Bill for
[00:29:48] a medal, because he did brilliantly, standing up to the three of you,
[00:29:52] repeating all the uh gossip and
[00:29:56] untruths that you pick up from the daily mail, well they are, well we'll
[00:30:00] see, we shall see whether they're un truths or not. 'I didn't pick it from the daily mail, I actually
[00:30:04] read the times, the telegraph and the guardian of all things and - they're all
[00:30:08] pretty much saying the same thing. All right, Andrew, um,
[00:30:11] look, he thinks it's a good idea, I haven't to agree with him, I think it's a great idea, make
[00:30:15] sure that people use their their right to vote and they have a say, and
[00:30:19] if they don't then they are find, it works perfectly well in places like
[00:30:23] Australia, and as result they have high turnouts and people feel
[00:30:26] they're being represented, why is that, why is that illiberal,
[00:30:30] you're you're telling people to use their'. their right to vote and making sure
[00:30:34] they do it, it's also their right to not vote if they choose to, well
[00:30:38] it's their right to not vote for anyone as inspore their ballot
[00:30:41] paper, but the right why why should
[00:30:45] they have to, if no one inspires them to come out, why do they still have to come and why doesn't
[00:30:49] their absence count? nobody's preventing these people from
[00:30:53] voting, excuse me, george, um, the 2019
[00:30:57] election, there was the 2019 election there was a 72% turnout,
[00:31:00] people were inspired to come out because
[00:31:03] the the vote meant something, the 2024 election, people were so
[00:31:06] uninspired by the choice on offer, they stayed away, and largely it
[00:31:10] was the conservative vote, conservative vote half, half went other
[00:31:14] parties. half stayed at home,
[00:31:17] that is their choice, if you're a conservative voter and you couldn't bring yourself
[00:31:21] to back the the can the conservative government, why should you be
[00:31:25] compelled to go out and vote for someday as uninspiring as Kier Starmer? well,
[00:31:29] but but you could you could spoil your ballet pay, but you'd still go out, why should you have
[00:31:33] to, let's get George on, let's see what George thinks,
[00:31:37] I wish Andrew would
[00:31:38] have had checked what we were proposing before he came on television, we're
[00:31:41] proposing that there should be an opportunity to say, none
[00:31:45] the above, so if you don't like any the three or four or five or six
[00:31:49] candidates, you can vote none the above, and that means that
[00:31:53] you can assume that expressing means you're expressing your point of view, and
[00:31:57] that's when I was elected, when I was elected originally in
[00:32:00] 1979 in South Asia, over 80% people
[00:32:04] voted, now it's less than 60%, that's what's happening in our
[00:32:08] democracy, and more and more people should be encouraged to vote, and
[00:32:12] I'm very glad, Nana that you're in favor of this, are really
[00:32:16] encouraged by that? i am all for people
[00:32:19] voting, i'm all for people being encouraged to vote, i'm not at all
[00:32:23] convinced by the need to compell someone to vote, but mean you talk
[00:32:27] about a 10 pound fine, what's the penalty if i say i
[00:32:31] am not paying that fine and out of
[00:32:33] principle? well, will, well also
[00:32:37] saying that if you're if you're ill if you're not able to
[00:32:40] attend, for a good, wait a minute, for a good reason you can
[00:32:44] put that forward. "if you haven't got a good reason, then you should be fine,
[00:32:48] that is the that is the pressure to make sure that people turn
[00:32:52] out, just
[00:32:53] as just as
[00:32:54] the same, it's a civic duty, just as wearing seat
[00:32:58] belt is in your own interest, voting is a civic duty and
[00:33:02] it's in your interest to be properly represented and for your
[00:33:05] interest to be properly represented in parliament, it might not
[00:33:09] be, my my vote might not make any difference, i could be a safe seat and i
[00:33:13] could say it doesn't matter to me that i i want to to not vote, i could
[00:33:17] not,
[00:33:17] you know, um, but you can still put none
[00:33:21] of that my absence of vote can just be counted as well
[00:33:25] as none the above. why should you compel me? because
[00:33:29] if i if i say, not only am I not voting, refuse to pay your fine
[00:33:33] for compulsion. the way that ends, ultimately, as it does in
[00:33:36] australia, is you get charged second time by the court, and if you don't
[00:33:40] pay that second charge, you can end up in prison. that's good, because the
[00:33:43] bbc. this similar
[00:33:45] is thing, isn't it? if you don't pay that, jail, you want to
[00:33:49] introduce a rule that says if some somebody doesn't go
[00:33:52] and vote, it could end up in prison, i think that's a liberal, it's
[00:33:56] working very well in Australia, have you have you looked, have you studied how what
[00:34:00] has happened
[00:34:00] and it's in belgium, it's in south american countries as well, it's
[00:34:04] spreading around the world, all right, you see, you see it works well, but on what
[00:34:08] metric, turn out in itself is not a metric, well
[00:34:11] what, because
[00:34:15] metric, no, no, no, hold on, I'm talking, it is metric, of course it is, it's the
[00:34:19] metric that you work out, whether it's effective, whether people are turning out, if they're turning out
[00:34:22] because they have to pay a 10 pound fine, if they don't, and then the turnout
[00:34:26] goes really high, then that's a metric to work out that the 10 pound fine is
[00:34:30] working,
[00:34:31] I don't think that's the question, look, I've got to leave it there, sadly, I could talk to you guys for ages,
[00:34:35] Andrew Willshaw and Lord George Fooks, thank you very much, good to talk
[00:34:38] to you, all right, coming up, the prime Madeline Macan
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[00:39:08] of Alex, Alex's show tonight, now Britain is facing a
[00:39:11] shocking uptick in the food of in the flood, sorry, not on the
[00:39:15] food, if only in the flood of illegal knives and weapons being seized
[00:39:19] at our borders, including frightening zombie knives, I mean
[00:39:22] honestly, seriously, and machettes, how can that even be
[00:39:26] anyway at one point? people could this was almost legal, so the fact that these
[00:39:30] were even available that you could buy them is just a shocker, but according to new data in
[00:39:34] the sun newspaper, and in the first half of this year
[00:39:36] 2,729 illegal knives were seized by
[00:39:40] border force officers, that is compared to
[00:39:42] 2,912 for the whole of
[00:39:46] 2025. well, the government says that it is cracking down
[00:39:50] on this issue. this government is committed to halving knife crime
[00:39:53] within a decade and progress has been made this.
[00:39:58] year, we have taken 60,00 knives off of our streets,
[00:40:02] banned zombie knives and ninja swords and seen a
[00:40:05] 5% fall in all knife crimes, including an
[00:40:09] 18% reduction in homicides by
[00:40:12] knife. is it that potential
[00:40:16] crime breaking into the UK have too little to fear the
[00:40:20] consequences the smuggling these dangerous weapons? well
[00:40:24] let's get the thought of my panel. businessman and activist Adam brooks politic. commentator
[00:40:28] Alice Grant and former labor minister Bill Rammel. All right, Alice,
[00:40:32] I'm going to start with you. I was just thinking, was it Henry Novak who was
[00:40:35] killed by one these like seek daggers? He was, yeah, these people though,
[00:40:39] I think were uh, they lived in the UK. Yeah, no, of course, but I was just thinking like, we
[00:40:43] do have such crisis um, with knife crime and with these horrible
[00:40:47] attacks and just looking at those like horrible- looking
[00:40:51] knives being seized at our borders. I mean, is it any surprise that
[00:40:55] this kind of thing is rife on our streets and? and is and is
[00:40:58] killing how many young people every single day,
[00:41:02] and I think honestly I don't know, I don't know how it is that we're not
[00:41:06] immediately sending back people who who dare to come to our
[00:41:10] nation carrying and wielding weapons which are evidently only
[00:41:14] going to be used to harm another human being immediately that should be
[00:41:18] massive red flag, you're not loud on our soil, what does that say about the person
[00:41:22] carrying it, unbelievable, well I think there's actually been a
[00:41:25] focus through borderfield. force on increasing seizures
[00:41:29] uh for people for people coming through with knives,
[00:41:33] and you know that that's a good thing, we should be getting those
[00:41:37] knives, um,
[00:41:40] laws uh on knife sales, the banning of zombie
[00:41:43] knives - and machettes uh good
[00:41:47] things and
[00:41:49] you know any knife crime is huge concern,
[00:41:53] but let's look at the facts, homicides through knife
[00:41:57] crime were down by 14% last year, it's the lowest level for 35
[00:42:00] years, overall knife crime is down by 11%. it's just
[00:42:04] not the case that the streets are wash with
[00:42:08] people uh being attacked. with knives, however I still
[00:42:11] think one the biggest problems here is young people
[00:42:15] and the sense too many them have that they're actually
[00:42:19] safer carrying knives than if they're not, and I think we've really got to tackle that
[00:42:22] issue. Well, what about the criminals breaking into the UK though, because that's the
[00:42:26] problem is people breaking into the UK uh who we're talking about, we're not talking
[00:42:30] about, we've got enough knife on our streets, let's be honest from our own home grown
[00:42:34] criminals, but people breaking into the UK who are actually carrying
[00:42:38] these knives, well... 'I mean, I, I've not seen the
[00:42:41] evidence of of that that that these people are then allowed to carry on
[00:42:45] and come within the UK. If you carry, this
[00:42:48] is the border force, border force officers have said that actually the numbers have gone
[00:42:51] up for the whole of 2025, we had um
[00:42:55] 2,912 uh, so that's you know, and and before
[00:42:59] that it was lot less, yeah,
[00:43:00] and I think that I that's a concerted effort to actually increase
[00:43:04] seizures, um, but they're coming in buse, they're not scared the consequences, so in just the
[00:43:08] first half of this year, you've already'. that number, homicides the lowest
[00:43:12] level with knives for 35 years our streets
[00:43:16] are not a wash with crimes,
[00:43:18] i just say i'm an anti-knife crime campaigner, that is a trend that is being seen
[00:43:22] across the western world, so for whatever reason
[00:43:26] bill um killing like that is on the decrease,
[00:43:29] lost my father to a machiti gang 35 years ago, this is not a
[00:43:33] new thing, but what is new thing now is that youngsters don't
[00:43:37] just carry little knives when we was young. admit carried little pocket
[00:43:41] knives and things like that, we we are seeing kids
[00:43:44] carrying weapons of war and these zombie knives these machetes
[00:43:48] are weapons of war, you can take someone's hand off their head off,
[00:43:52] so this is totally different problem now, what we have here is
[00:43:56] labor government that has relaxed sentencing laws and
[00:44:00] given more power to judges to suspend sentences
[00:44:04] up to three years, now if you get 12 months you're not going to prison, but these
[00:44:08] judges now i know of... places where men have been caught with zombie
[00:44:11] knives two or three times on our streets and they have got suspended
[00:44:15] sentences, but yet again if someone says something a little bit too
[00:44:19] fruity online, they're remanded and they're put in prison, that
[00:44:23] prison place is found for those people, so what we have there is lack
[00:44:26] of deterrance, and again the youth on our streets
[00:44:30] know they're very, they're not likely to be stop and
[00:44:33] searched because that is down, and if they do get caught, they're not going to
[00:44:37] go to prison, so you have now... 16 17-year-old
[00:44:41] boys and I know that because I've got a 17-year-old boy and he tells me
[00:44:45] normal kids that are not gangsters, they're not criminals, but they carry
[00:44:49] knife because everyone else is carrying one, so until we break that
[00:44:53] cycle and we start saying right, if you want to carry knife and you're under
[00:44:56] 18, you're going to a youth detention center for three years, if
[00:45:00] you're over 18 you're getting five years mandatory in prison, until
[00:45:04] we do that knife crime is not going to go away and bill says
[00:45:08] oh knife crime is falling. 'I would suggest the research that
[00:45:12] I do and the activism I do and and going round uh with
[00:45:15] my knife crime uh stuff is that more people than
[00:45:19] ever are carrying knives, they're just not getting caught.
[00:45:23] Well now that you raised such an interesting point earlier that these people who are bringing these zombie
[00:45:27] knifes and these like awful-ling machietties obviously think that
[00:45:31] they come here and they can get away with it and thank goodness that border force
[00:45:34] has upped the amount of seizures that they're doing because the idea that
[00:45:38] people are coming to'. country wielding weapons that could
[00:45:42] literally
[00:45:43] you know hack off your head and your limbs is just like what
[00:45:47] why? i want to know exactly what is in their mind thinking that they
[00:45:51] can come here with these like weapons of war because that to me is very worrying,
[00:45:55] i can never forget that scene, i think it was at noting hill carnival uh, i
[00:45:59] think
[00:45:59] it was a couple of years ago where there were like five or six kids wielding these zombies just
[00:46:03] running through the street and
[00:46:04] it was like running around
[00:46:08] just with the zombie n' this is if the pirates, i'm
[00:46:12] like, what? because he's
[00:46:13] not deter, zombie knives have been banned as as have
[00:46:17] machites, um, but you, adam
[00:46:20] says that we're reducing sentencing, this government actually brought
[00:46:24] in new offence of carrying
[00:46:27] knife with intent to harm, and that carries a prison sentence
[00:46:31] of up to seven years, but the judges are not putting people away, i know
[00:46:35] of many cases, do this week in week out, i work with charities for
[00:46:39] knife. and they're not getting sentenced, there
[00:46:42] is no deterrent. well, a home office spokes person has said that since the
[00:46:46] general election, border force colleagues alone have seized more than
[00:46:49] 7,300 dangerous. UK ports while
[00:46:53] 63,000 knives have been removed from our
[00:46:57] streets. All right, well next
[00:46:59] the prime minist, the prime Madeline Macan suspect admits that he was
[00:47:03] just 150 yards from her holiday apartment as he gives
[00:47:06] new account the night that she vanished. This is Alex Armstrong, tonight
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[00:50:23] Welcome back, it was the documentary that reignited fascination
[00:50:27] the disappearance of Madeline Macan. Could this lead to a
[00:50:31] conviction and bring to an end one the world's
[00:50:35] biggest unsolved crimes? So
[00:50:39] last year that doc showed us more about the prime suspect in the
[00:50:43] case, convicted, rapist and pedophiled Christian
[00:50:46] Brockner, and a shocking revelation, he has now
[00:50:49] admitted that he was just 150 yards from her. day
[00:50:53] apartment on the night that she disappeared, we're joining me now
[00:50:57] is a senior global reporter for the daily mail, nick pizza who has
[00:51:00] reported extensively on the disappearance of Madeline Macan, so
[00:51:04] Nick, now talk to me about um your reporting bause I know you've
[00:51:08] followed this case and you've reported about it as it's
[00:51:12] been you know literally as soon as it happened type thing,
[00:51:15] yeah yeah well i i was at those court
[00:51:19] cases uh where i two three years now ago involving
[00:51:22] Christian Brookner, you saw in the opening sequences
[00:51:26] there of your of your footage and that's where he was acquitted of some
[00:51:30] unrelated sex offenses that took place allegedly
[00:51:34] in Portugal, not not a million miles away from where
[00:51:37] Madeline Macan vanished in the town of Pride Lusche in
[00:51:41] in 2007 and and the yeah this is the latest
[00:51:45] a long line of development that have basically sprung from the fact that in
[00:51:49] 2020
[00:51:53] 2020 Christian Brookner was named as the prime suspect
[00:51:57] by German police as the man who they say in their words was
[00:52:00] responsible for the abduction and murder of
[00:52:04] mad and Since then we've had lots of stories coming out about
[00:52:07] him, about his background, we know he's a convicted pedophile, we know he's a
[00:52:11] convicted drug dealer, he's a convicted rapist as well, but so
[00:52:15] far he's maintained a relative silence, I mean I've asked
[00:52:19] him as well many times, where were you, we entered into a correspondence when he
[00:52:23] was in jail serving time for rape and he he told me in his letters
[00:52:27] that he had nothing to do with it and the police for out to get him and it was all attempt
[00:52:31] by the prosecutors to frame him, and now we have this quite sensation.
[00:52:35] revelation from him to colleagues on the mail on Sunday saying that he
[00:52:39] was 150 yards away from the Ocean Club
[00:52:42] apartments where Madeline disappeared from, which is actually quite a significant change
[00:52:46] in the story that he so far told us, because before, as I say, he's refused to
[00:52:50] say anything at all about it, well why would he tell them that
[00:52:53] if he, it just seems he knows
[00:52:57] more, he must have said nothing about his whereabouts, now he's admitting to be near
[00:53:01] to be very close to the scene the crime.
[00:53:06] "why would us now, why? yeah, it's a very
[00:53:10] strange thing to say,
[00:53:11] and I've been uh in contact with his lawyer
[00:53:14] today, this afternoon to try and see what he has to say about it, he
[00:53:18] was maintaining a very discrete science and saying that he was unaware of
[00:53:22] this interview and he he knew nothing about it, but even him,
[00:53:26] that lawyer Philipqua in the pass has told me that uh,
[00:53:29] Christian Brookner as far as he's concerned had nothing to do with it, he's always advised him not to say
[00:53:33] anything into always saying..." comment whenever he's asked about Madeline's
[00:53:37] disappearance, but for him to come out now and say this is is
[00:53:41] it is in fact rather strange, we also know at the same time he's been telling
[00:53:45] other news outlets as well that he plans to to write a book
[00:53:48] about his life since he was named as the prime
[00:53:52] suspect
[00:53:53] for for Madeline's disappear appearance yeah well all right one
[00:53:56] nick piece really good to talk to you thank you very much nick has reported
[00:54:00] extensively on the disappearance of mad thank you very much
[00:54:03] okay now ' a German national Christian Brookner
[00:54:07] denies involvement in the Madeline Macan disappearance, saying
[00:54:11] he originally kept quiet because the police want to frame
[00:54:14] him. All right, well that is a shocking case very briefly, I'll just have a chat with my
[00:54:18] panel, Adam Brooks, you got about 10 seconds, your thoughts on that? Uh, I
[00:54:22] mean, the whole thing is just catastrophic, I've got
[00:54:26] kids, so the thought of this is, I can't even put
[00:54:30] myself in in that position, um, I just want someone to to
[00:54:34] to be a... anable for it, and if they can, brilliant. All right, well listen, stay
[00:54:38] with us. This is Alex Armstrong, tonight only on GB News,
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[01:00:19] "good evening, it's 10 o'clock, I'm Nana Aquier in for Alex Armstrong.
[01:00:23] Tonight, if you abuse Britain's hospitality, we will permanently remove
[01:00:27] you. Well, evidently not, a shocking
[01:00:31] investigation shows that nearly 7,00 foreign criminals who should have
[01:00:35] been deported is still living in the country five years
[01:00:38] after they were released from prison. Also, it is
[01:00:42] going to be challenging, we won't take risks uh
[01:00:45] with uh people's living standard." or with the economy as
[01:00:49] a whole reports today that the prime minister is plotting
[01:00:53] early general election in order to secure a mandate for income
[01:00:57] tax rises. before too long, labor will go back to that
[01:01:01] magic money tree to find we really do not have anything left.
[01:01:05] also, thousands of lethal illegal zombie knives are being
[01:01:08] intercepted at UK borders in a massive influx on last
[01:01:12] year. sun has reugnited the conversation about what
[01:01:16] makes britishness. does adopting the culture and customs of a country mean that you
[01:01:20] have a right to be citizen, and I'll bring you
[01:01:23] all of Monday's front pages, including the mirror that leads with Edge and I
[01:01:27] feel so alone, and some shocking news stats in the
[01:01:31] telegraph, migrant households receive record 12 billion
[01:01:34] pounds in universal
[01:01:36] credit.
[01:01:48] So tonight's panel, businessman and activist Adam Brooks,
[01:01:52] political commentator Alice Grant, and former labour minister
[01:01:56] Bill Rammel, and on the case of early general election,
[01:02:00] Danny Dyer has spoken, I know the prime minister is, Might, do
[01:02:03] you, yeah, no, but who is he?
[01:02:05] I don't understand, anyone vote for him, because I didn't vote for him,
[01:02:09] huge two hours coming up, but first let's get your latest news with Sophia
[01:02:13] Wentsler.
[01:02:21] Nana, thank you, good evening. Your headlines at one minute past 10.
[01:02:24] Labor is considering raising capital gains tax to fund a £14
[01:02:28] billion pound handout for the. Earners, according to the
[01:02:31] telegraph. The Prime Minister and Chancellor are reported to be
[01:02:35] reviewing proposals to raise CGT to as high as
[01:02:39] 45% in order to increase the income tax personal
[01:02:43] allowance. It would allow Andy Burnham to follow through on his pledge of
[01:02:47] overseing a cost of living government in the face of surging
[01:02:50] inflation caused by the war in
[01:02:52] Iran. Meanwile, Andy Burnam has
[01:02:55] congratulated Denmark and the US a deal to strengthen security
[01:02:59] in the... Arctic after the two countries reached an agreement over
[01:03:03] Greenland. The new trilateral deal grants Washington permanent
[01:03:07] security control the semi-autonomous Danish territory,
[01:03:11] resolving diplomatic dispute sparked by President Donald Trump's
[01:03:14] threats to seize it by force. It comes as Mr. Burnan
[01:03:18] prepares to meet Donald Trump in person for the first time at the
[01:03:22] UN General Assembly in New York next
[01:03:24] week. El Spencer has accused King Charles
[01:03:28] of gas lighting him after. made series of claims about the king in
[01:03:32] his new book, the earl went to say there are similarities
[01:03:35] between how both his sister, princess Diana and the Duke and Duchess
[01:03:39] of Sussex have been treated by the media. Harry and Megan, who
[01:03:43] recently returned to the UK from California six years
[01:03:47] after stepping back from royal duties have been repeatedly
[01:03:50] critical the press. Speaking to the BBC, he said daily
[01:03:54] criticism from the media must be cancerous influence in their
[01:03:58] lives. It would be really... holding on people to learn from Diana's
[01:04:02] example, I'm not here to speak for Harry and Megan, but for anyone
[01:04:05] who's being destroyed in this way daily, it must
[01:04:09] be such cancerous influence in their life. One the problems
[01:04:13] with Diana was, she's very, very sensitive to criticism,
[01:04:17] and of course, I'm sure most of your viewers now think, oh, she had this splendid
[01:04:21] life and it was all amazing, and she didn't, she was so privileged and so perfect in so
[01:04:25] many ways, but she was really brought low by all that
[01:04:29] criticism, And yeah, I suppose it's a pity when I see echos
[01:04:33] of that now. The right-wing alternative for
[01:04:37] Deutschland party has taken first place in another German state
[01:04:40] election, delivering disaster for chancellor Friedrick Murz who was vowed
[01:04:44] to fight on. An exit poll in the eastern state of
[01:04:47] Mecklenburg for Poman showed his center-right Christian
[01:04:51] Democrats party secured just 5.5% the
[01:04:55] vote trailing far behind the AFD who won
[01:04:58] 37%. Early. This month, Mr. Murtz refused to
[01:05:01] step down despite a catastrophic election result in
[01:05:05] Saxony Anhult, which saw the AFD win an
[01:05:08] unprecedented 43.8% the
[01:05:11] vote. And Poles have closed in Russia's
[01:05:14] parliamentary election with the Putin-backed United Russia party on
[01:05:18] course for easy win with 57.5% the vote
[01:05:22] predicted. President Vladimir Putin has cast the vote as a
[01:05:26] test of support for the war in Ukraine. Critics say the...
[01:05:30] tightly controlled political system does not tolerate descent. The
[01:05:34] Kremlin says national unity and some censorship are necessary
[01:05:37] during what it calls its special military operation in
[01:05:40] Ukraine. You're up to date on GB
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[01:06:05] 'Nearly 7,000 dangerous foreign criminals who should have been
[01:06:09] deported from the UK are still living in this country
[01:06:12] five years after they were released from prison. An
[01:06:16] investigation by the Sun newspaper has exposed a shocking truth:
[01:06:20] the number of overseas offenders still in Britain, more than half
[01:06:24] decade after they should have been removed has doubled in just
[01:06:27] four years. hundreds of'. suspected to have exploited
[01:06:31] delays in their deportations by putting down roots in the
[01:06:35] UK, which makes it much more difficult for them to be removed
[01:06:39] after marrying or having children born and brought up in
[01:06:42] Britain. Justice minister Alex Norris thinks otherwise, if
[01:06:46] you abuse Britain's hospitality, we will permanently remove
[01:06:49] you. Hang on, do you remember the
[01:06:53] Albanian criminal Clevis Discher, who appealed his
[01:06:57] deportation by claiming it would be... duly
[01:07:00] harsh as his son did not eat the type of chicken nuggets
[01:07:04] available abroad. what a joke. or what about the
[01:07:08] jamaican drug dealer who beat his partner had avoided
[01:07:11] deportation after a judge ruled that he should stay because his gender
[01:07:15] questioning daughter only speaks to him and the
[01:07:19] Jamaican man who raped a sleeping woman, he couldn't be
[01:07:22] deported because he's bisexual, even though he was branded a danger to
[01:07:26] the community by the home office. and what about? Pakistani
[01:07:30] grooming gang ring leader. Pakistan
[01:07:34] originally refused to take him back on the grounds that he is longer
[01:07:37] no citizen the country after ripping up his passport. Then
[01:07:41] t secretary Ed Miller Band put his
[01:07:44] foot down and Pakistan doubled down and said we
[01:07:48] currently do not have any legislation or formal mechanism
[01:07:52] under which we can take him back and what about this
[01:07:55] guy?
[01:07:58] hey
[01:08:03] hey oh yeah
[01:08:06] the Albanian criminal who was jailed twice and then deported for burgleries
[01:08:10] before seeking back into Britain. where he boasts on social media,
[01:08:14] feeding a stack of £50 notes to his pug called
[01:08:17] mouse. foreign criminals are taking the absolute
[01:08:21] mickey out the British legal system, and quite frankly the
[01:08:25] entirety the British public. to me, this government
[01:08:28] consistently prioritizes the rights of foreign criminals over the rights of British
[01:08:32] citizens to be protected from them. didn't need investigation
[01:08:36] to tell me that. well, let's get the thoughts of my panel. businessman and activist
[01:08:40] Adam brooks, political com... to Alice Grant and former
[01:08:44] labour minister Bill Ramel. Alice Grant, I will come to you on
[01:08:48] this. It would take an enormous amount of legal reform to change
[01:08:52] the current system we have, which I believe is absolutely necessary in order
[01:08:55] to properly deport people who simply have no right to be here. Who come here
[01:08:59] to commit crime and then are still allowed to stay? Because the
[01:09:03] current status of our the legal architecture surrounding
[01:09:07] deportations essentially means that if you invoke any the articles the
[01:09:10] ECHR for example for having a... family tie or for
[01:09:13] you marrying someone here, whatever the reason is, and
[01:09:17] it can be really as silly as like a concern for private life, which includes
[01:09:21] mental health, whatever
[01:09:22] the reason can be honestly so tenuous, and yet in our
[01:09:26] law they are allowed to invoke these articles before a judge, and because the
[01:09:30] way the law has developed in this area, the extreme left-wing
[01:09:34] sort of um liberal approach the strasburg court, which is obviously
[01:09:38] the court the European convention of human rights, means that they often will get away,
[01:09:42] with it and meanwhile we just don't have a working legal system um
[01:09:46] in terms of sorting out people who just are illegally here and then
[01:09:50] commit more crime and what to be deported immediately honestly
[01:09:53] well your government have huge majority in the house of commons
[01:09:57] they could make changes to legislation quite easily if they
[01:10:01] all got together and allowed that because we're seeing people taking
[01:10:05] the absolute you know poop out of this country
[01:10:09] and and the government is doing that the asylum and immigration bill uh
[01:10:13] that has gone through uh tackles uh some these issues, look,
[01:10:17] overall deportations are up, but I acknowledge that
[01:10:21] there are people, and this report has highlighted 7,000
[01:10:24] individuals who are using the ECHR,
[01:10:28] eroneously to try and delay uh their deportation
[01:10:32] uh, there's a whole series of changes uh, for
[01:10:35] example refocusing article eight the ECHR
[01:10:39] to better prioritize the uh safe the whole
[01:10:43] population as against individual rights, but also
[01:10:46] tackling the neverending round of appeals that
[01:10:50] people can go through, um, so that you'll just have one appeal
[01:10:54] and critically you're going to have a 24 week time limit uh,
[01:10:58] 24 weeks, yeah, yeah, yeah, compared to much, much longer at the
[01:11:02] moment, to do what in the 24 weeks,
[01:11:04] that the appeal has to be heard and
[01:11:06] the decision made within 24 weeks, now these changes, lot can happen
[01:11:10] in 24 weeks,
[01:11:12] half year. at the situation we inherited and it was much much longer
[01:11:16] than that forget about that, they had to go, the touries were useless, nobody is supporting them,
[01:11:20] but you have been in power now for pretty much half of what the full tenor
[01:11:23] could be, so we'd expect to see some sort of changes and no more hopping
[01:11:27] back to what you import, we can't
[01:11:31] hear that, huge majority, and we
[01:11:35] have seen changes now,
[01:11:36] you know, deportations are up, overall asylum
[01:11:39] claims are down, the small boat crossings uh are down
[01:11:43] significantly uh and I think the changes the number of boats or the number of
[01:11:47] people, the number of people down significantly in the uh
[01:11:51] channel migrants bill, that's a lie, 4% are ever
[01:11:54] deported that come across on the channel, whether it be lorries or it be
[01:11:58] boats, so you might be removing Brazilian bar
[01:12:02] workers or you know some these tire women that do do
[01:12:06] do the naus or maybe Australian uh that have overstayed their
[01:12:09] visas, but you are not deporting people that... across illegally on in the
[01:12:13] channel, that is a bl, but we we're significantly
[01:12:16] reducing the number, the numbers at the moment, Adam, are on
[01:12:20] track for the lowest level of boat crossings per individual that we've
[01:12:24] seen for over six years look at what the weather was uh for the oh
[01:12:28] come
[01:12:29] on,
[01:12:32] let's also look at maybe um some the improvement that the french are
[01:12:36] doing their side, they're actually maybe working a little bit
[01:12:40] towards uh the money that we give them in. some instances, that's good,
[01:12:44] isn't it? that's what we
[01:12:44] want to happen. that's good, but let's not let labour government take take
[01:12:48] credit for that. this is pathetically weak government when it
[01:12:52] comes to foreign criminals. this is the...
[01:12:56] Basically bunch of MPs that used to write letters and stop
[01:12:59] deportation flights of rapists of gangsters
[01:13:03] and murderers, don't show your head bill, because labor MPs
[01:13:07] were the largest group on that letter that was stopping deportation
[01:13:11] flights, so there is no will in my opinion from this labour
[01:13:15] government because they've already shown their cards, they've shown that they don't want these
[01:13:19] monsters to be deportted, look we could just ignore the
[01:13:22] ECHR bill, we have done when it comes to... things like prisoner voting
[01:13:26] rights, we've just said no, we're not doing that, and when it comes to lot these
[01:13:30] judgments, we could turn around and say no, we do not want this rapist or
[01:13:34] pedophile in our country, he's got to go back, but it would take
[01:13:37] political will to do that, and it would take a prime minister with set
[01:13:41] of um, you know what, to turn around and go, you know what, I'm going to
[01:13:45] put my people's rights before the rights of foreign
[01:13:48] criminal, and look, Donald Trump, love him or hate him, when
[01:13:52] he he got in, he stopped the illegal. crossings
[01:13:55] nearly overnight because he backed up what he
[01:13:59] said, the lawyer said he wasn't allowed to do it and he did it anyway, i
[01:14:03] want to see a prime minister, illegal migration in the states is is
[01:14:06] relatively the same level as in this country, that is an
[01:14:10] absolute l, come on, let's not try try and uh
[01:14:14] say that because donald trump said what he was going to do, he was voted in to
[01:14:18] do that and
[01:14:19] he stood up against the law makers, against the people that said no
[01:14:23] you can't do that, he said no, i'm putting people first, that is what
[01:14:26] if Nigel Faraj gets in, that is what people expect, they
[01:14:30] want the prime minister within the first 100 days to go, I'm not having this no
[01:14:34] more, take me to call, but I'm not having these dangers in my
[01:14:37] community, and we don't, we don't,
[01:14:40] we don't govern
[01:14:41] by administrative, we govern through the rule of law, and we are changing the
[01:14:44] law, we are changing the law, we are changing the
[01:14:48] laws to enable us to better be able to deport foreign
[01:14:52] criminals, well we should just be able to do that anyway, to foreign
[01:14:55] judge that has woken up at four in the morning that is maybe from I don't know
[01:14:59] lythuania or something knows nothing about our country to
[01:15:03] stamp claim through and say sorry you've
[01:15:06] got ECHR claims are dealt with through uh predominantly
[01:15:10] dealt with through the British courts so it's British judges that do
[01:15:14] that and that was
[01:15:15] that was legislated for in the early 2000s the real issue is that they have
[01:15:19] implement the law according to ECHR case law it's decided and the
[01:15:23] reason and I agree with you Adam really serious about it, we would know, because they'd
[01:15:27] honestly have to pull out the ESHR, and the reason why is because of course all these
[01:15:30] articles rely on the proportionality test, so when you're balancing
[01:15:34] one person's individual right against these rather wide concepts like
[01:15:38] national security, realistically, who is going to win in front of
[01:15:42] a judge, this one individual right is always going
[01:15:46] to, that's why the government is legislating to give greater white
[01:15:50] rights to public safety over individual rights in respect of
[01:15:54] article. clear and unambiguous, which they haven't been in
[01:15:57] legislation, so then does that, that sounds like we do need to leave the
[01:16:00] ECHR, are the labor government prepared to do that? no, how can
[01:16:04] we disapply it? uh, because we're
[01:16:07] legislating to uh rebalance the
[01:16:11] the um implementation of article 8 the ECHR to
[01:16:15] give greater weight to to public safety over individual
[01:16:18] rights, that was what was in uh the bill that went through
[01:16:22] parliament and over time that will have
[01:16:24] a significant impact. will you say that, but I suspect that they'll find
[01:16:27] another way of getting around it,
[01:16:29] and what about uh, who's paying for the appeals for these people? We
[01:16:33] are, don't we pay for them, they have legal aid, why should we pay for that? I
[01:16:36] think if you've been refused your asylum claim, it's now down to
[01:16:40] you to fund your appeal, you can't, oh we'll give you another appeal, no, no, no,
[01:16:44] you've failed, if you're serious, you funded yourself getting on the boat to get
[01:16:48] here, you should fund your own appeal, otherwise get with
[01:16:52] the program and get the hell out, I think there's an arguable case for that, certainly, I
[01:16:55] certainly think in respect of foreign criminals they should not be getting
[01:16:59] legal aid to fight, can you
[01:17:03] imagine committing a crime and then relying on the British tax payer to fund your
[01:17:07] appeals against our America,
[01:17:10] forget skin color or if I went to America and committed a
[01:17:13] bad crime, would they deport me? yes, I would be stuck a plane
[01:17:17] straight away back here, that is what we need to see in Britain,
[01:17:21] Britain's put first and our kids safety. put
[01:17:25] before some, I don't know, Nigerian rapist that has
[01:17:29] come here and is playing the cts, playing the system and
[01:17:33] using our money not to be deportted, and that is what that
[01:17:37] is what's got so ridiculous that the fact that you can't get
[01:17:41] the same sort of chicken nuggets would be a way how you'd get round it or
[01:17:45] yeah, but he didn't, he didn't, he didn't that that case didn't succeed, that was the
[01:17:49] claim that was put forward and and the courts over it, the fact,
[01:17:53] no,
[01:17:53] no, no, bill, the fact that you can even... bring such ridiculous claim and it'll be
[01:17:57] heard a court, yeah
[01:17:57] but now it's absurd on air, you just said
[01:18:00] that that was successful and it wasn't successful, well okay,
[01:18:04] but the fact that he was successful in bringing the case to a court.
[01:18:08] now that's ridiculous, yeah, so if I
[01:18:10] said nuggets, I'm actually being funded by the
[01:18:14] British tax payer to bring that ridiculous case, I just think it's
[01:18:18] important we we argue these things on the basis the facts and if you go back
[01:18:22] and look at what you said to camera, nana, you,
[01:18:26] you, you, you, you certainly argued and implied that that
[01:18:29] person succeeded in an appeal
[01:18:32] because they succeeded in making an appeal
[01:18:35] a
[01:18:37] ridiculous basis.
[01:18:37] we were talking, yeah, he did, they
[01:18:39] were able to come, they were able to actually bring the case though,
[01:18:43] that's ridiculous, they succeeded in being able to bring a case, that's
[01:18:47] ridiculous, on the basis of chicken nuggets, yeah,
[01:18:51] i can't even believe you're not even listening to what i'm saying, on the
[01:18:55] case of chicken nugget, respectfully ask you to go back and look to what you said to
[01:18:59] camera, look
[01:18:59] at that and fine, listen, if i'm a spoke, i don't have a problem with that,
[01:19:03] but i'm correcting myself and bringing it to you, bill, i don't have a problem with
[01:19:07] that I'm not perfect, but I don't understand why the
[01:19:11] legal system were prepared to even acknowledge case of such
[01:19:15] ridicule, people can make all sorts of furious claims
[01:19:19] and cases through the courts, that is their right, there should be
[01:19:22] a b that that means that that shouldn't get to call or
[01:19:26] that shouldn't even be accepted, so there should be certain
[01:19:29] criteria, do you meet it, no I don't off you go, the
[01:19:33] thing is is that what that really reveals is that a lawyer seriously thought... that
[01:19:37] might win, exactly, you don't put forth an argument that you don't think you can
[01:19:41] realistically have a chance on winning on, and of course article 8 construed
[01:19:44] broadly, which it always is, involves basically
[01:19:48] your mental health, so if your mental health is affected by your inability eat a
[01:19:52] particular type of chicken nuggets, then run with that
[01:19:56] argument, but that's why we are, we have
[01:19:59] legislated, the government has legislated to reframe
[01:20:02] article, let's also remind the viewers here that the
[01:20:06] ECHR. was set up and people like you Bill will go on about oh
[01:20:10] Winston Churchill this case was never set up uh
[01:20:14] this court was never set up for the reasons it's being used now
[01:20:17] refugee 30 years ago is not refugee now it's
[01:20:21] been blurred so much and abused we need to get out or
[01:20:25] tell them to change their criteria or we're going to
[01:20:28] leave that nine
[01:20:32] other European countries including Italy who are all signataries to this
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[01:20:40] having these problems with deportations and article, like we're not alone in
[01:20:43] this,
[01:20:45] we went to the council of europe and said seriously
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[01:20:53] strasburg have to us, absolutely none, well a government spokesperson
[01:20:57] said that over 11,700 foreign criminals including murderers
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[01:26:34] 26 minutes after 10 o'clock and former Prime Minister Richi Sunak has
[01:26:38] spoken about what it means to be British, saying that national
[01:26:41] identity should not be defined by race or skin color.
[01:26:45] Now, Mr. Sunak said on X, if you're born and brought up
[01:26:49] in England and view it as your home, what are you other
[01:26:53] than English? In a column in the Sunday Times newspaper, he argued
[01:26:57] that people from different ethnic and cultural backgrounds can share a common
[01:27:01] British identity. Mr. Sunak also discussed immigration
[01:27:05] and integration, saying that Britain needs a stronger sense of shared
[01:27:09] identity, but what what makes Britishness?
[01:27:12] All right, let's get the thoughts of my panel, businessman and activist Adam Brooks,
[01:27:16] political commentator Alice Grant, and former labor minister Bill.
[01:27:20] Ramel: All right, Adam, I'm going to come to you. Richy Sunak has talked about
[01:27:23] Britishness, but then he said that he talked about being
[01:27:27] English. Yeah, okay, so let's start with Britishness and whether you see
[01:27:31] there's a differential between the two, yeah, I see a big difference between being
[01:27:34] a uh British and English, I see Ricky, Rishi
[01:27:38] Sunak as British, he was born here, um, he
[01:27:42] lives how we live, the same values and
[01:27:45] morals, um, but then I would say if I went to maybe
[01:27:48] Japan and... "me and my wife had a child in Japan,
[01:27:52] would my kid be Japanese down the line? no, no, they
[01:27:56] wouldn't. i wouldn't class my son or my daughter as
[01:28:00] Japanese if I went, why? cuz they don't look Japanese is what you
[01:28:04] say, I think in when you describe English, I think
[01:28:08] we're thinking of of a country that was
[01:28:10] 99.9% white up until maybe 670 years
[01:28:14] ago, I think of Englishness as maybe an
[01:28:17] ethnicity, I think is British..." uh is different to
[01:28:21] that um can you be English and not be
[01:28:25] be of that ethnicity though, but then there there can be tell
[01:28:27] different you
[01:28:29] so let now so this is where I'll level this up if say... two
[01:28:33] Polish people or two Italians come come to England and had a
[01:28:37] child um would I think
[01:28:40] that would I think that their child is English no I wouldn't because I think
[01:28:44] English is an ethnicity uh would I say that their child is
[01:28:48] British yes I would do I think we sunak is British yes I
[01:28:52] am so
[01:28:52] I think we're talking of two two different things there so what if you
[01:28:56] uh but you were born in England so you felt that you
[01:29:00] were English because you were born in England. not because you believe that you were
[01:29:04] ethnically English, cuz there are, I believe there are actually two
[01:29:07] definitions of that, cuz you could be born in Scotland and be Scottish,
[01:29:11] yes, but that doesn't necessarily mean that you have set
[01:29:15] color to be Scottish because you were born in Scotland, but you can
[01:29:19] have an English ethnicity as well, I don't see what the problem
[01:29:23] of that would be. Alice, so for example, my mom is
[01:29:26] um, Peruvian, and my dad is English,
[01:29:29] British, and I personally would... obviously just identify
[01:29:33] is English and British, I've grow up in my whole life. I also have,
[01:29:37] as you mentioned, that aspect of you technically speaking, the ethnicity,
[01:29:41] but that's not really why, like I don't see that in terms of um,
[01:29:45] when I identifies English, like the main reason, the main reason is
[01:29:49] because I have grown up on this land, I love this country,
[01:29:52] I have its values, I'm ridiculously English when I go abroad and
[01:29:56] it's very clear where I come from, and I think honestly
[01:30:00] identity is ultimately very personal. 'I would never want to enforce identity
[01:30:04] anyone and
[01:30:05] you know someone could grow up here and not feel
[01:30:09] British and English and I think often sadly we do see that rejection because there is just
[01:30:13] not enough patriotism anyway, but when it comes to when it comes to identity I
[01:30:17] think that
[01:30:18] you know if you've grown up here and if you share our values you are British
[01:30:22] so is Alice English then because she's
[01:30:25] half so by my
[01:30:27] definition by my definition of Englishness how I've
[01:30:31] always thought of.' English is no, are you British?
[01:30:35] Yes,
[01:30:37] um, I said English, I'm absolutely English, my dad's English, I've grown up here my whole
[01:30:41] life, absolutely, I'm 100% an English
[01:30:44] woman, I'll extend it,
[01:30:47] my wife's
[01:30:49] Swedish, um, she lived here for over 40 years, my my two kids were
[01:30:53] bron born here, are they not English, but are they not
[01:30:56] English, well half, I haven't, I haven't really made my my mind up on that, so you
[01:31:00] put me on YouTube. my my point is is
[01:31:04] even by even by law, even by law in
[01:31:08] Nigeria, if me and my wife went to Nigeria, settled there in
[01:31:12] 20 years time, had a child, Nigeria would not recognize
[01:31:15] that child as Nigerian, they wouldn't under their law, I checked it
[01:31:19] before we came on, they would not, they would not recognize,
[01:31:23] if they have, I didn't know they have a law, but if they have a law then that's different, if their law
[01:31:27] says that then we'll go by the law, but we don't have that law, but then if you go and ask the
[01:31:31] majority of Nigeria. if
[01:31:34] you me and my wife's child there all our lives was Nigerian, I would say that
[01:31:38] the majority of Nigerians would say no,
[01:31:41] I don't know
[01:31:42] about that because I
[01:31:43] just I don't know about that buse very good friend of mine, she's white, she's african, she was
[01:31:47] born in Kenya, she's way more African than I could ever be, she knows more about
[01:31:51] Africa, I don't know anything very much about it, I was born in Newcastle, I'm a
[01:31:54] Jordy, but I want to ask you, Adam, so what am I, because I i was
[01:31:58] born in England, um, I am British because...
[01:32:02] "hold a British passport, I was born I lived here all my life, I've never, I lived in America for a
[01:32:06] little bit, but I'm still British with the British passport, also English, but I was born
[01:32:10] in England, so I see myself as English, but
[01:32:13] not not ethically English, I don't think I might,
[01:32:16] yeah, but my my definition of English has always been of ethnicity,
[01:32:20] because it's England has was 99.9% white and
[01:32:24] you know up until very modern history of immigrants, yeah,
[01:32:28] you go back to me you are British, but I don't care what I am.
[01:32:33] buse i take the name british and i accept that some people might not
[01:32:37] think that i'm not ethnically english i don't think i am not
[01:32:40] happy with made the same point that if you
[01:32:44] was of italian parents that have moved here i wouldn't have
[01:32:48] thought that you was english but you could walk out what alice
[01:32:50] is
[01:32:56] with me with the heart so confusing if you had dna test adam oh
[01:32:59] no have you had one? no
[01:33:03] um, i've got i've got a tree, family tree, so my dad's
[01:33:07] side goes back many generations uh of english, but i'm obviously
[01:33:11] from the east end, so we we're made up of everything,
[01:33:14] you know, i think there's Romany gypsy in me three or four generations back,
[01:33:18] there's irish, there's so much unmade up, but you're arguing against
[01:33:22] yourself, no, no, but this is multi-generational bill, so how many, how many
[01:33:25] generations do we go back, exactly that, so this is where this is such
[01:33:29] a, this is such a messy uh, debate on that and that's
[01:33:33] why I've always said I sort of think englishness is
[01:33:36] ethnicity, British is not, I don't
[01:33:40] think I never thought I'd say that I
[01:33:43] think... on the money today and there's you
[01:33:47] know there's a really worrying trend in politics
[01:33:51] with people aligning ethnicity with
[01:33:54] nationality and color of skin and nationality and it's wrong. i
[01:33:57] think the overarching worry here is just that you can determine what
[01:34:01] someone else's identity is yourself and we've been looking at this as like such a
[01:34:05] subjective approach like oh well i don't think you would be English. well you know what it's
[01:34:09] ultimately about what that person identifies as because i'm proud to be
[01:34:12] English and no one can take that away from me. no matter what someone else might
[01:34:16] think about my my ethnic background and that's just the way it is and if
[01:34:20] Nanna you said I'm English then go you nana and I'm not
[01:34:24] ethnically English I'm quite happy to be ethnically African although I don't know how
[01:34:27] much of African I've got and what from what parts of Africa but I don't
[01:34:31] really care I've turned to but with back to you
[01:34:34] quickly um if you're saying it goes back generations we could go back
[01:34:38] to the beginning when uh mankind came from Africa which most scientists would
[01:34:42] agree with which means that you adam are africa. Yeah,
[01:34:46] okay, let's end it on that. What's my new name? Tell
[01:34:50] me my new
[01:34:50] name.
[01:34:54] All right, next, all of your front pages, the telegraph leads with
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[01:39:10] pages. uh, the front page the independent climate,
[01:39:13] 100, on the mirror, Ed, I feel so alone, that's
[01:39:17] of course Ed Sheron, he's crying because people aren't playing, they're
[01:39:21] not supporting him because he's got a different point of view, I think or maybe the same, who
[01:39:25] knows who cares, Eddie or Rich,
[01:39:26] be quiet. the express stop your tax fraid nations high
[01:39:30] streets that is of course to the labour government uh telegraph labor
[01:39:34] eyes 14 billion pound tax rate to help the
[01:39:37] poorest - italian's becoming the richest because some them
[01:39:41] beid more than those in work the times half labor MPs
[01:39:45] at risk of pit cuts back lash no one likes to lose money
[01:39:49] the metro i back team harry and wills
[01:39:52] I don't think they're a team well let's get the thoughts of my panel businessman and activist Adam
[01:39:56] brooks political commentator Alice Grant and former labor minister
[01:40:00] Bill Ramel. All right, let's see, what should we start
[01:40:03] with? Should we start with, let's start with Ed, I feel so
[01:40:07] alone, because I found this story slightly all sort of
[01:40:10] sad, but not sader.
[01:40:12] Chiran is anguished over the palestine storm tour, have you seen that one
[01:40:16] where he's crying because his support at Maclemoll made a
[01:40:20] free palestine drive on stage, that is obviously not really, you're a
[01:40:24] music concert, I don't
[01:40:25] want to hear about politics, the organizers. didn't like it, so then he was cancelled from the
[01:40:29] concert, then all the backup artists then decided, all the other artists who
[01:40:33] were - decided they didn't want to work with it either, so Ed
[01:40:37] is now having his concert all by himself, and yeah, there's not
[01:40:40] many uh artists that could do a concert all by themselves, but this
[01:40:44] man is, you know, is such a generational
[01:40:48] talent, is an unbelievable uh artist, and I feel
[01:40:52] so sorry for him, he's being bullied by this pro Palestine
[01:40:56] mob that if you don't... say what they demand
[01:40:59] you to say, then they will try and cancel you and say you're the worst
[01:41:03] person in the world. well, I've got friends in in in that world who say
[01:41:06] he is one the nicest men you could ever ever meet, there's not a bad
[01:41:10] bone in his body, and this this will be tearing him apart, he doesn't want his
[01:41:14] concerts to be political, he wants them for everyone, and that's
[01:41:18] what they're trying to force on on him, this political statement, and it's
[01:41:22] unfair, really is unfair. I mean, alternatively, he's just victim of
[01:41:26] organizers who... really were very anti and palestine
[01:41:30] comments and I don't understand why that should be the case, really? because yeah,
[01:41:34] and and this is not,
[01:41:35] you know,
[01:41:35] I do believe in free speech, I also believe that are people really feel like
[01:41:39] you, they have issue to speak about, they will speak about it, you can't control what people are going to
[01:41:43] say, if it was a term in in Mackham's contract that he could
[01:41:46] absolutely not say that, and if he was, he could expect to be fired,
[01:41:50] then of course I understand, but the reality is is that they came down so harshly on
[01:41:54] him, and we know that this movement is backed up by people who... are
[01:41:57] radicalized, so
[01:41:59] you know, in reality I don't think that it's the palestine, pro-
[01:42:02] palestine um people who are to blame, but really the organizers, honestly that's
[01:42:06] just, well, perhaps they didn't want their concept politicized and
[01:42:10] maybe they were Jewish, and they wouldn't have that, I mean they wouldn't a lot of people
[01:42:14] feel that this is a little bit extreme, the whole sort of movement, the
[01:42:17] whole you know all dates back really far back, but let's go from
[01:42:21] October the 7th, I mean, and this is where this full movement started to
[01:42:25] become reignited and... stance
[01:42:28] in itself, but the political stance, I don't think they want in their concert and
[01:42:32] I, I don't blame them. Bill Rammel, I mean, I think it Sheron's a good
[01:42:36] guy, um, but this is a complicated story as
[01:42:40] I understand it, um, this support act
[01:42:43] made pro-palestinian uh, comments, I don't think they were
[01:42:47] outrageous offensive, and it was then an organization called Craft
[01:42:51] Work where the next concept was going to take place, who said,
[01:42:54] right, we're not having them, um, i think that's
[01:42:58] problematic in terms of free speech um you know
[01:43:02] uh look you know do i want to go to a concert and hear people chanting
[01:43:06] political slogans no, but often artists will make a
[01:43:10] political statement and as long as it's not inciting violence
[01:43:14] as long as it's not uh offensive then I think they should be able to
[01:43:17] do that
[01:43:18] offensive that's why if you watch
[01:43:20] the video some people do find it offensive the people who
[01:43:22] obviously
[01:43:24] uh who running the concert didn't like it so that's why is not on so where you're
[01:43:28] saying it's not offensive, it's offending people, they probably don't want that, i if i was
[01:43:32] having event i don't want any of that, i just want people to enjoy the music, you've come for the
[01:43:36] music, i don't
[01:43:37] want to hear people,
[01:43:41] anyone, well this is the thing, everyone wants that, and no one's doubting
[01:43:44] that that is ultimately the goal and what a successful music concept would look like, but that's not
[01:43:48] reality, people just say reality, well it's not always, and
[01:43:52] this is the point, the point is a mistake happened or whatever you want to call it, like he add his
[01:43:56] views, what did you say he said, "I have two words to say, free Palestine, I
[01:44:00] believe in peace and love," basically, that's what he said on the video. There was nothing
[01:44:04] inciting hatred. I'm sorry, but if you're really offended by just those two
[01:44:07] words, then I really. as a president said, if you allow
[01:44:11] one, if you allow one artist to do that, your whole concert could
[01:44:15] be um, you know, a continuation of different political statements
[01:44:19] being done every every 20 minutes, but hold on, go back through the history
[01:44:23] of popular music and particularly rock music, you know, there's been
[01:44:27] a whole association with political causes and political
[01:44:30] campaigns undertaken by artists, and I think if we're going to
[01:44:34] start policing artists uh, from the
[01:44:38] statements they can and cannot... make during a concert, I think we're
[01:44:42] a very dangerous situation, I think you know you go come to a music concert, I don't want to hear
[01:44:45] people chanting free Palestine, I find it really irritating, I've come for the music
[01:44:49] and I'd be saying, shut up, Ed, sing, sing, boy, sing,
[01:44:53] just sing it, ignore all of it, all right, what about the front cover the Times,
[01:44:57] half labor MPs at risk of pip cuts, backlash, now this of course is
[01:45:01] the labor government's attempt potentially if they dare
[01:45:05] to uh cut some the welfare bill and there's a backlash, bill
[01:45:08] ramel, um, "there's two, well there's a
[01:45:11] particularly important review coming out this autumn, the Tim's
[01:45:15] review into the personal independence payment
[01:45:18] system, and I think the government has got to hold its
[01:45:22] nerve and bring in genuine reform, but it's got to do it
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[01:45:29] who are genuinely disabled and in need of support, but if you look
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[01:45:44] very ify as well,
[01:45:46] you know, it's impossible that we've so we've got so many
[01:45:49] disabled people in this country, it's impossible, and the fact that we're
[01:45:53] giving foreigners um benefits as well in this country, something
[01:45:57] needs to change, now the labour government will not do that cuz his
[01:46:00] back benches won't allow it, so what's going to have to happen
[01:46:04] is taxes are going to go up, so again it's people that work that are
[01:46:08] being punished to pay for. those and there are many that
[01:46:12] choose not to, all right, we'll stay with us, because next the sun leads with
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[01:49:37] page the guardian, european spy chief's brace for Russia
[01:49:41] to test NATO pact. the daily mail, kemmy, our ditch
[01:49:45] tourist tax to boost Britain. on the sun, lucy let
[01:49:49] be scapegate. this is very interesting piece. let's get thoughts of my panel,
[01:49:53] businessman and activist Adam Brooks, political commentator Alex Grant, and
[01:49:57] former labor minister Bill Rammel. Alice, this Lucy let be thing seems to
[01:50:01] be going on and on and on, and they're saying that she is now potentially escape
[01:50:05] goat. Yeah, so the premise is that she could be escape goat for um
[01:50:09] hospital failings, which I think is honestly quite probable given the state of our
[01:50:12] NHS. Um, however, I think in order to come to a full
[01:50:16] opinion, I'd have to obviously watch the documentary, but it wouldn't surprise
[01:50:19] me, um, because we all know that RNHS. is absolutely
[01:50:23] crumbling at the minute and its management
[01:50:26] of the funds is just is
[01:50:29] ridiculous so I've got
[01:50:32] a gut feeling that there has
[01:50:35] been a miscarrage of justice here um and in part although he's
[01:50:39] a political opponent I actually respect David Davis uh the
[01:50:43] tory MP and he's done a huge amount of work investigating
[01:50:46] this and he's raised very serious questions about her
[01:50:50] conviction the inqu that came out last week
[01:50:54] was utterly shocking because it
[01:50:56] documented whether the killings were undertaken by
[01:51:00] Lucy Letby or in some other way because of failures
[01:51:04] within the system three children died who
[01:51:08] could be alive uh if if better action were
[01:51:12] taken um I think it was important that inquiry
[01:51:16] took place I kind of question why
[01:51:19] Letbies appeal against her sentence. that they
[01:51:23] didn't wait for that to take place because I'm not sure how the two sit
[01:51:26] together uh when you're when you're saying what the failings were in
[01:51:30] respect of a conviction that it's
[01:51:34] not certain um
[01:51:36] is is going to be the reality so I I I've just got a gut feeling but
[01:51:39] well there's too much great but what do you think well at the time we
[01:51:43] was told that the uh evidence was clear and she was
[01:51:47] found guilty on that evidence I'm not an expert
[01:51:51] neither any of us. here, so look, you've got top doc saying
[01:51:55] no proof she killed babies, well if we've now got top doctors
[01:51:59] saying that, i would like reinvestigation, maybe another
[01:52:02] case where everything is put out there, because as
[01:52:06] far as i'm concerned at the moment she is woman guilty of killing
[01:52:10] babies because that's what she was convicted of. now if there are people
[01:52:13] saying she definitely didn't do it and these are experts as well, that
[01:52:17] needs to be presented, but none of us can sit here for certain and say she
[01:52:21] did it or
[01:52:22] she didn't. do it because we haven't seen all the evidence and
[01:52:25] we we're not experts in that field. all right, well, i want to bring us to uh,
[01:52:28] it's on the front cover the daily express and also the front cover the sun, but
[01:52:32] it is not to stop the tax raid on the nation's high streets. is the one about
[01:52:36] spencer's role to star up painful memories and exact
[01:52:39] revenge? and basically which child do you
[01:52:42] believe? so i'm wondering, what are your thoughts on this? you
[01:52:46] know, i make uh, i don't hide the fact that i
[01:52:50] don't particularly like king charles and and have um,
[01:52:54] what I don't like
[01:52:55] to see is things like this in in public, and
[01:52:58] I don't really like what El Spencer has done, um, I think these
[01:53:02] two should meet up and and deal with it privately, but the only people that are really
[01:53:06] getting hurt here is the royal family as a brand, and our
[01:53:10] British reputation, um, there is no proof, he
[01:53:14] said that to him at all, um, and and unless there is
[01:53:17] proof, I don't think El Spencer should have said it, yeah, Alice, yeah,
[01:53:21] well to be honest. "again, I'm not going to police anybody's speech
[01:53:25] any issue, and if I spent came out and said that then that's something that has to be dealt
[01:53:29] with. um, but I am firm monarchist in principle,
[01:53:33] so I do believe that um the reputation of our monarchy and
[01:53:36] it's um, it's the importance of it for our nation and
[01:53:40] internationally must be safeguard
[01:53:42] above, yeah, I
[01:53:44] mean, I it's different
[01:53:48] recollections, interpretations of something that took place almost..."
[01:53:52] 30 years ago, and my question to Charles Spencer
[01:53:55] would be, you know, the the accusations
[01:53:59] are very personal, very damaging, why didn't you make them
[01:54:02] at the time, why 30 years after the event, and what does
[01:54:06] it do for his relationship with his nephews, William and
[01:54:10] Harry, um, and I just kind of think
[01:54:13] you know Diana would be turning in her grave, yeah, well there was clip
[01:54:16] of him saying that he would never ever profit from her memory, I played it in
[01:54:20] my niggle uh yesterday and... well, I don't know what this is, but I'd say
[01:54:24] that's kind of from her, well, yeah, but he said that he
[01:54:28] would never make money out of that, so if that's the truth, any money that he gets with that book,
[01:54:32] he should put to charity, then we might believe what he's saying. Well this is a whole load more news to bring
[01:54:36] you up next is Alex Armstrong tonight later edition with Steve and Allen, thank
[01:54:40] you to my panel, thank you very much uh, but first and update with your
[01:54:44] weather.
[01:54:50] Today, clouds overhead, totals
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[01:55:01] welcome to your GB news weather update from the Met Office. It's going to be quite a...
[01:55:05] storm start to the week ahead before temperatures gradually return to average towards
[01:55:09] the end the week, it should be mostly dry, though we are expecting some rain
[01:55:12] towards the north and it's
[01:55:13] a fairly similar picture as we head our way into the overnight period, high pressure
[01:55:17] meaning mostly dry conditions for much of England and Wales, but a warm front
[01:55:21] eventually crossing the far northwest, so that'll drag in some cloud across
[01:55:25] Scotland, Northwest England and Northern Ireland, and as we progress through the early
[01:55:29] hours the morning there'll also be some rain and drizzle around, but to the south
[01:55:33] of this it should remain mostly dry. see quite a few clear spells
[01:55:36] across England and Wales, so any rural spots temperatures could get down
[01:55:40] to between two to 4 degree
[01:55:42] celsius. Now to start off the day across parts
[01:55:46] the north, rather cloudy and quite damp at times, particularly across any western hills
[01:55:50] where there could be some quite persistent rain and drizzle, also quite
[01:55:54] cloudy and gray start towards northern Island, some spots of rain and drizzle and
[01:55:58] places also towards northwest England, a bit of cloud across
[01:56:01] western areas of Wales, southwest England, but actually for many areas of... England and
[01:56:05] Wales, it should be quite a dry and bright star and it should warm up quite
[01:56:09] quickly through the course the morning after that chilly start, but
[01:56:12] towards the north it's likely to remain quite cloudy, still spells of rain and
[01:56:16] drizzling places, especially across western hills of Scotland, perhaps a
[01:56:20] bit cloudy at times across Wales and southwest England, northern England
[01:56:24] also the best the sunshine likely across the far south and southeast,
[01:56:28] but for all it is going to be a warm day, temperatures widely in the low to mid-20's
[01:56:32] and feeling quite humid towards the end the day. as well. now
[01:56:36] Tuesday is very similar picture, towards the north, still often quite cloudy
[01:56:40] with some rain and drizzle, the best the sunshine across the far south.
[01:56:44] some of this rain could turn a little bit heavy as well as it slowly sinks its way
[01:56:47] southeastwards, and for the rest the week, mostly dry, settled,
[01:56:51] still a little bit of rain across the north and temperatures eventually returning more
[01:56:55] towards average for this time the year.
[01:56:59] today, clouds overhead, tortals
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