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[00:01:21] Good evening, welcome. Yes, it's me, I'm
[00:01:23] of nat aqueer. I'm in for Alex Armstrong tonight. Have you got
[00:01:27] any words for Andy Burnham? Yeah, the early release going is
[00:01:31] good, the GPS
[00:01:33] of tagging is better than prison, this place ain't no
[00:01:38] of a good, labor's early release scheme is off to rocking
[00:01:42] start, prisoners released last week
[00:01:44] of were in already of landed back in
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[00:01:54] of one%, illegal migrants, now they're not just pretending to be gay
[00:01:57] anymore, now they're
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[00:02:28] of I'm sorry. of pro-palestine protesters march through
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[00:03:23] journalist and broadcaster Linda Duvely, reform
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[00:03:46] a of top stories, Donald Trump says he thinks it's time for Ukraine to get new president, as he
[00:03:48] a responded
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[00:05:04] lawyers. Several arrests were made a
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[00:05:26] the alleged damage to memorial commemorating battle of Britain.
[00:05:30] Protesters were also alleged arrested for allegedly supporting
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[00:05:41] firing rockets? into Israel on October 8th, did I
[00:05:45] support them? Well, ah,
[00:05:47] you no, I'm not going to answer that question. You could argue that because they are an occupied
[00:05:51] people, they have a right to use violence. Um, how you use violence is
[00:05:55] another matter. I have my views, I told you I do not believe in
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[00:06:58] Labor's early release scheme is an absolute joke. A
[00:07:02] prisoner walks out of HMP Wandsworth on the 1st of October,
[00:07:06] part the first wave of criminals, labor has set free and
[00:07:10] is obviously a fan the scheme. Have you got any words for
[00:07:13] Andy Burnham? Yeah, keep the early release going, it's
[00:07:16] good. GPS tagging is better than
[00:07:20] prison.
[00:07:25] 17. What did you still soap
[00:07:27] detergent? This is Michael
[00:07:31] Bogel, registered sex offender, released
[00:07:35] early, clearly delighted with his new taste of freedom,
[00:07:39] so delighted in fact that the very next day he's captured. on
[00:07:42] CCTV going a shoplifting spree.
[00:07:46] In just four days after walking free, this man steals more
[00:07:50] than 100 pounds worth of detergent from supermarkets in North
[00:07:54] London. He's been arrested and is now back behind
[00:07:57] bars. In the same overcrowded presence, this whole scheme was
[00:08:01] supposed to relieve. This criminal has made a complete mockery
[00:08:05] the policy. Victims of crime have been calling for it to be
[00:08:09] scrapped, and can you blame them? The probation service. simply
[00:08:12] cannot cope. Officers in London are dealing with more than
[00:08:16] hundred breaches of electronic tagging orders every single
[00:08:19] day. Britain's most senior police officer, Sir Mark Roley has
[00:08:23] revealed that his officers are having to arrest two or three offenders
[00:08:27] a week. Who were only recently freeed under this early
[00:08:31] release scheme. We're arresting to two or three early release offenders a
[00:08:35] week who are being recall to prison or doing further offending.
[00:08:38] That's since the start of August we've been capturing that data
[00:08:41] um... 'we're getting increasing numbers of tag breaches that to enforce
[00:08:45] the provation are sending to us, um, I think it's
[00:08:49] now uh, it's now over hundred tag breaches a day in London,
[00:08:53] we're being sent, over 100 a day, yeah, yep, you heard that
[00:08:57] correct, 100 tag breaches a day, and top of this probation
[00:09:01] officers are now set to vote on strike action over workloads
[00:09:04] and pay, these are the very people supposed to supervise the thousands
[00:09:08] of prisoners that labor is releasing into our communities'. and the
[00:09:12] British public overwhelmingly agree too. u poll found
[00:09:16] that 64% of brits oppose the government's early release
[00:09:20] scheme, while 78% agree with releasing foreign nationals
[00:09:24] early so they can be deported. this government is playing
[00:09:28] fast and loose with public safety. they're empting the prisons and overloading the
[00:09:31] probation service. it's shambolic and it's
[00:09:34] reckless. all right, let's get the thoughts of my panel journalist and
[00:09:38] broadcaster linda dubely, reform UK andrew Rossendall.
[00:09:42] and former labor counselor Sebastian Salic. All right, I think I must
[00:09:46] start with you, Sebastian Salic, because this early release scheme uh is labor
[00:09:50] policy.
[00:09:50] I know the conservatives did uh something similar a while back, but
[00:09:54] labor have done it twice now since that the kis Darma
[00:09:58] initially and now Andy Burnham. Yeah, I mean the
[00:10:01] unfortunate reality is they have other choice. The prisoners are 99%
[00:10:05] full uh, if they become full, you then can't send people to prison who are
[00:10:09] committing serious, serious offenses, so it's not an ideal situation, but... we find
[00:10:12] it. What I find fascinating is that you look at countries like the Netherlands and they're closing down their
[00:10:16] prisons and so we have a bigger conversation to have about the level at which
[00:10:20] we're banging people out for life uh and whether that's really effective and as
[00:10:24] we've seen from intro, I don't think it is, well, well, the ones who they're letting out
[00:10:28] shouldn't really be let out because they're just carrying on stealing or doing whatever it is, once once they've
[00:10:32] been let out and go back, but the problem here is that the labor government have
[00:10:36] been in for two years now, over two years right, so we want to see something
[00:10:40] happening, but not this, could they not have done something else? well, they've
[00:10:44] built 3,00 prison places, the reality is that prisons take quite a while to build, so there's only so
[00:10:47] much you can do in two years, um, what I really want to see is focus on rehabilitation, uh, we
[00:10:51] don't think enough about the underlying issues that lead. people to commit
[00:10:55] these kinds of crimes, if you can tackle those issues, you get them back on the straight and narrow and they don't
[00:10:59] reoffend, that is the crucial issue, that reoffending rate needs to come down. Andrew
[00:11:03] Rosssendale, it was your lot, although you're not with them anymore who put us in
[00:11:07] this mess because they didn't build any prisons uh really in the
[00:11:11] 14 years they were there, in fact they shipted things around, they didn't really do anything at all, there were no new
[00:11:15] prison places really were there, i think there was 500 or something, something like that,
[00:11:18] yes look, the conservatives failed completely not just on this but
[00:11:22] a whole range of issues, they left the count a
[00:11:26] very poor state and that's why they went down to the worst defeat in their
[00:11:29] history in 2024, but our labor any better,
[00:11:33] absolutely not, they are a thousand times worse than the
[00:11:37] conservatives, what they are doing is putting the british people at
[00:11:40] risk, they're saying
[00:11:42] that you go to prison but you get out very quickly, you then commit further
[00:11:46] crimes, the public are not safe because of it,
[00:11:50] no deterents, actually the whole thing is a catastrophe,
[00:11:53] what we need is serious imposition of law and order back in this
[00:11:57] country again, we need foreign criminals out, they need to be
[00:12:01] sent to their own countries to serve their sentence or to a third
[00:12:05] country if they won't take them back, and we need to
[00:12:08] urgently build more prison places, and it doesn't take as
[00:12:12] long as Sebastian is saying, there are ways of building fast,
[00:12:15] secure accommodation, using every possible means to keep these
[00:12:19] people under lock and key, which is exactly where they should
[00:12:23] remain. Yeah, we all agree. that,
[00:12:26] but you know, it's, I do, I don't even want to protect the labor government because they're doing a very bad job in my
[00:12:30] view, but this was really legacy that they then had to deal with,
[00:12:34] because the previous government did, well, sweet, I won't
[00:12:37] say, yeah, so I think Andrew's right there
[00:12:41] about prison building needing doesn't need to take as
[00:12:44] long as that, if we got Nightingale hospitals up in
[00:12:48] pretty swiftly, um, just before the COVID crisis hit,
[00:12:52] I think we can probably get prison buildings put up. "I suspect the hold up
[00:12:56] maybe our planning law, which that does need reforming,
[00:13:00] if that was eased, I think you could build more quickly, but Sebastian
[00:13:04] hit a really important point when he said that in the Netherlands, they
[00:13:08] had much lower rate of imprisoning people, but you mentioned
[00:13:11] banging people up for life, now that's not what's happening in the Netherlands, there's
[00:13:15] no, the the problem isn't banging up people for life for very serious
[00:13:19] crimes like murder, it's putting people inside jail for
[00:13:22] minor crimes, but don't need a custom."
[00:13:24] fairly
[00:13:31] or unfairly for three years depending on your viewpoint,
[00:13:35] yep, but she met lot of particularly women inside, well
[00:13:39] on only women prisoners really, um, explained that they
[00:13:43] were serving time when actually their crimes did not
[00:13:46] deserve custodial punishment, and if we could solve
[00:13:50] that, we would help matters. now building prisons, it it's
[00:13:54] not
[00:13:54] long term. but it's not short term, so something has to happen now
[00:13:58] ease the situation in the very short term, and I
[00:14:02] think what needs to happen is the exclusion zones need to be properly
[00:14:06] enforced, and the tagging system, which is not currently working
[00:14:09] properly, needs to be rolled out very
[00:14:13] efficiently, and what surprised me this week
[00:14:16] was, supposedly senior civil
[00:14:19] servant criticized ministers and which is unheard of,
[00:14:23] for a civil servant to go on the... radio and criticize a minister
[00:14:27] for putting unfair targets on, really surprised me,
[00:14:31] but actually he was right, ministers should stop talking about
[00:14:35] targets that cannot be reached and we need to start being real
[00:14:39] about what can be achieved in what is serious situation which
[00:14:43] won't go away just because we're talking about it, well i'm i'm a fan of
[00:14:46] some targets at least, not not targets for waiting list so because
[00:14:50] sadly they just sort of move the goal post, but
[00:14:54] you've got loads of foreign. why can't you just get rid of those? although I did see that they
[00:14:57] weren't able to get rid of a Pakistani grooming gang uh leader
[00:15:01] because Pakistan wouldn't taken back even though they tried to make him stateless and that didn't work out either well one
[00:15:05] the problems is that decent chunk them are on remand so they they're waiting to be
[00:15:09] sentenced and you can't just deport somebody who is who is
[00:15:13] still within the process um it would be it would be unjust so it's one of
[00:15:16] those uh solutions that sounds very seductive to certain people I imagine there will be viewers
[00:15:20] at home wooping at the idea but when you apply that to reality let's
[00:15:24] forget. because some them, well then you have only few thousand
[00:15:28] people that's a very small population, that's a start, yeah, but then you're
[00:15:31] sending people to countries where those sentences may not be inforced, and it shouldn't be
[00:15:35] fair,
[00:15:36] it isn't fair that if you for... 'example rape someone in the UK, get deported and don't
[00:15:40] face the sentence and just get on with your life, um, I think that that is very, very
[00:15:44] unfair on the victims, well, I think what would be fair
[00:15:46] on the victim is the fact that you are actually deported, so I'd have them deported and then their country
[00:15:50] can deal with them accordingly, but what if dealing with them accordingly means letting
[00:15:53] them go free, that feels very unfair, that's kind of what happens in this country anyway, you
[00:15:57] literally have three months and then you're out, so if no, that's not true, the minimum sentence
[00:16:01] for
[00:16:02] rate is not the months, but many them don't even serve that as
[00:16:06] we well know, they don't'. serve the full sentences, they serve very little the sentence,
[00:16:10] and in fact in the early release scheme, even if you've been given sentence, you can then end up being
[00:16:14] released even earlier, so remember part the early release scene, that's
[00:16:18] really important, exactly, so if it were me, exactly, so the sentence is even shorter, no, no, no,
[00:16:21] it's it's longer cuz they're not being released, they're not part the scheme, well there was some, i'm sure there
[00:16:25] were some sex, serious is not part the
[00:16:29] you, you've added the word serious, okay, well let's get the right word, get the right
[00:16:33] word, shall we, cuz that guy, i think he was also sex offender and he was
[00:16:38] well um, let me get you the wording, um, hang on,
[00:16:42] rape, serious child sex and grooming offenses are barred from this, no serious
[00:16:45] offenders should be lead out early, they should all be there until the end their
[00:16:49] sentence, this culture that's involved in this country
[00:16:53] whereby you get sent to prison for so many years and
[00:16:57] then you finish up getting out half your sentence, just
[00:17:00] simply not acceptable, the public do not understand this, it's not
[00:17:04] acceptable, it's taking away the deterents and I blame all
[00:17:08] governments who have been extremely liberal on this for many years, I'm not against
[00:17:11] rehabilitation, but I do believe the punishment
[00:17:15] should be there and people should pay a price, they should lose their
[00:17:19] freedom for vial crime against innocent human being, well what would reform do
[00:17:23] given the situation, imagine prison overcrowding, you're in charge, what would you do, well we're going to
[00:17:26] build more prison places very quickly, there are ways of doing it, there
[00:17:30] are I can't exactly out, but I can tell you now that it's not going to
[00:17:34] take years, you you can improvise, there are methods. faster than labor
[00:17:38] is well, i don't think labor is very committed to this to be honest, but how would reform build them
[00:17:42] faster than labor? well, how fast are labor building? well, they've built 3,00 places so far roughly, how'd reform
[00:17:46] build them more quickly, in two years, they've built 3,00 places after, yeah, no,
[00:17:49] look, we believe that there are other methods which can
[00:17:53] be employed, prefabricated prisons for instance, which are
[00:17:57] not necessarily brick-built ones that can be put up very
[00:18:01] quickly, so there are ways of doing it, well how would you get the staff there, because the
[00:18:05] problem, one the other issues is that nobody really wants. to work in the
[00:18:08] prisons, they're struggling with staff, so be great to have all these people
[00:18:11] even with the labor proposition, you're going to say you're going to have more prisons, where there's a
[00:18:15] political will, there's a solution, at the moment there's no political will, because the current
[00:18:19] government is committed to this policy, they actually are very soft on crime
[00:18:23] anyway, they think letting prisoners out early is probably a good
[00:18:27] thing, so they're no, they're not really committed to solving it, there
[00:18:31] are hang on, your answer is to build prisons as pre-fat, prisons by
[00:18:34] definition have to be hard to escape, of course they are, of course the... no one suggesting they're not
[00:18:38] going to be the people can escape from them, there are
[00:18:42] ways, there are ways of building prisons
[00:18:45] like what faster, i'm
[00:18:46] not a
[00:18:46] developer,
[00:18:52] no you're saying that we have to wait three years, i'm saying that
[00:18:56] with political will, using modern technology and
[00:19:00] different different methods, there are ways, there are ways of
[00:19:03] doing this dismissing it without
[00:19:05] even one second, one second, he's not, he's not
[00:19:09] a builder, so he's not, no, but you're representative
[00:19:11] of a party, you're saying
[00:19:12] you're going to do something and I'm asking you how and I need answer, so if you're asking for the action my new
[00:19:16] show as how he's going to build them, then that's I think why why are you defending another
[00:19:19] panelist, I'm not defending, well
[00:19:21] you are, can I can I finish? okay, just to be clear about notable
[00:19:25] individual case of somebody who was sex offender that was released under the early release scheme,
[00:19:29] guy called Michael Bogel, which I just actually mentioned in my
[00:19:33] niggle uh in my monologue sorry, he's a 30 year old registered
[00:19:37] sex. with a history of over 100 alleged defenses, he was released from
[00:19:40] HMP Wandsworth, which is what I said on the 1st of October 2026,
[00:19:44] but then was rearrested, so he was released, yes, so let me repeat what I
[00:19:48] said, rape, serious child sex and grooming offenses are barred from sentencing charges, so
[00:19:52] registered sex offender, yes, and the registered sex offender is not necessarily
[00:19:56] rapist, there are many, many categories of sexual offense that don't
[00:20:00] come under, but they shouldn't be released
[00:20:01] out, yes, but that's a separate discussion, you see how what we're saying is not contradictory, I
[00:20:05] said, yes, so I said sex offender, that's good. Yes, exactly, and I'm not, I'm telling you something
[00:20:09] different here. Yeah, well, I'm just letting
[00:20:11] you know that there was, well, you said
[00:20:12] it at the top the show, I heard you the first time, just remind you, so so just come back on this, uh,
[00:20:16] I've just checked it, modular construction, there are ways of doing this, and reform UK have
[00:20:20] looked into this, we can achieve this, using helping getting the
[00:20:24] military also to help us do this, so we should use every
[00:20:27] possible means, and I'm telling you, Sebastian, what's missing is political
[00:20:31] will, you haven't got a government that's determined to deal with this, you got a government that will make
[00:20:35] excuses, we need a government. going to put the safety
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[00:24:19] but now and we'll make sure that people are able
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[00:24:26] that this is a the serious consequences for these types of things.
[00:24:30] should the us live stream the execution of a former army
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[00:27:55] Pentagon is planning to broadcast a convicted mass murderer's
[00:27:59] execution live to the world. Nedal has who
[00:28:03] killed 13 people at Fort Hood in
[00:28:05] 2009,
[00:28:07] is scheduled to face firing squad at the same Texas base on
[00:28:11] December
[00:28:12] the 3rd. Defense Secretary Pete Hexes said that the public needs
[00:28:16] to see that there are serious consequences. Army major
[00:28:20] betrays his country, radical Islamist, kills a bunch of Americans at Fort Hood. Of
[00:28:23] course we're going to do it at Fort Hood. We're going to do it a Thursday. We're going to do
[00:28:26] it at one o'clock, which is when he did it,
[00:28:28] and it's going to be soldiers with rifles executing the firing squad and...
[00:28:32] we'll make sure that people are able to to watch it, that it's public uh,
[00:28:36] because people need to understand that this is a there's serious consequences
[00:28:40] for these types of things. so should the world be allowed to watch or
[00:28:44] would America be turning punishment into a spectacle? we're now
[00:28:48] joined by spokesman for young voice UK Ted Newson and director of
[00:28:51] Public Affairs at the Adam Smith Institute, Max Marlo. All
[00:28:55] right, Ted, I will start with you. What do you
[00:28:58] think? Well, I think ultimately this is supposed to... act
[00:29:02] as a deterrent and uh broadcasting it gets it more
[00:29:06] coverage, so I mean you can call it a publicity stunt if you want, you can call it
[00:29:10] whatever, ultimately this is something that is going to get the
[00:29:13] execution a bit more coverage, and uh
[00:29:17] look, ultimately this is a way of showing people that what you
[00:29:21] do, turning your gun on your own men is absolutely
[00:29:25] unacceptable in the army, it's the worst possible thing you can
[00:29:28] do, it's disloyalty the highest regard and for that he just...
[00:29:32] to face firing squad, yeah, and given that he executed people
[00:29:36] with the weapon, um, I can't say a problem with that, Max Mary,
[00:29:40] what do you think? I think it's strange
[00:29:44] from, the secretary of
[00:29:45] War Hegsith, because he's
[00:29:45] a very devout Christian, and from that clip you just played, he seems to be quite happy
[00:29:49] about this, um, it says in Proverbs 24:17 that, you
[00:29:53] should not rejoice when when thine enemy is fallen, says
[00:29:57] in Ezekiel 33:11, God takes no pleasure in the death the
[00:30:00] wicked, and it just seems to me, an undermining, I think of
[00:30:04] American justice really, I mean, the Americans stopped public
[00:30:08] executions over 50 years ago, of course, I
[00:30:10] mean even just looking back to you, when we stopped our
[00:30:14] own public executions, 150 years ago, there
[00:30:17] was royal commission about it, Charles Dickens wrote about it, Thackary wrote about
[00:30:21] it, the reason we stopped doing them is because it it essentially
[00:30:24] degrades public morality and it degrades our sense of
[00:30:28] justice, and reading those those tracks from over 150.
[00:30:32] ago, it's a similar argument be made now, which is that up
[00:30:36] upstanding liberal countries don't publicly execute people, Saudi
[00:30:40] Arabia, just stop doing it, actually,
[00:30:41] you know, um, Afghanistan, the Taliban do it, um,
[00:30:45] you know, Iran does it, North Korea does it, Arabia has just
[00:30:49] stopped, it's really not good to be honest,
[00:30:52] comparing us to some the Arab states, some the other stuff that goes down
[00:30:55] there, you wouldn't really want to be comparing yourself with them,
[00:30:59] so I'll probably leave it there, but look, why, why? Why do
[00:31:03] you say it degrades the sense of justice? some people would say that it gives a sense of
[00:31:06] justice, and as for peath being a
[00:31:09] christian, well, you take the bits that you want from the
[00:31:13] religion that you subscribe? not everyone follows everything from that
[00:31:16] religion and actually in in Christianity there are
[00:31:20] you know the crucifictions for god sake do what i mean
[00:31:23] yeah the whole thing with the crucifictions and of course this the stoning
[00:31:27] of of Saul for example which is no I think this is the
[00:31:31] fundamental problem
[00:31:31] we we're facing here which is it's publicity right and
[00:31:34] you know the reason why this terrorist I won't dignify him with a
[00:31:37] name him is because he wanted to be a martter and he's on record
[00:31:41] as saying that previously this is exactly what Marters wants,
[00:31:45] they want to be shown,
[00:31:47] you know, to be killed for doing what they've done, I mean, I
[00:31:50] mean, this is the main problem, this is why I find this, really quite sickening
[00:31:54] to be honest, because this is giving
[00:31:56] the terrorist what they want, would you be all right with it then if they just didn't live stream
[00:31:59] it, yeah, absolutely, that'd be fine, okay, yeah,
[00:32:03] he'd be
[00:32:04] all right with that without
[00:32:04] the live stream, I mean, what do you think then uh, Ted, do you think that perhaps the
[00:32:08] execution could go ahead, but they should reconsider the lifestame, seeing
[00:32:12] as given the
[00:32:13] point that Max made about being a maro. you're kind of giving this this person what
[00:32:17] they want? well, I think ultimately, now uh,
[00:32:20] transparency is key, and you don't have to look very far
[00:32:24] to see that the US has got uh, they've essentially got away with some
[00:32:28] horrible stuff in the past, I mean you, you've got Guantanamo just
[00:32:31] few years ago that they they were torturing prisoners and ultimately there
[00:32:35] was zero scrutiny there because the public had no idea, now
[00:32:39] ultimately showing the public exactly how the person is
[00:32:43] executed, and we 'we can't forget that this person was shot
[00:32:47] at uh as he killed 13 people as he injured 32
[00:32:50] more, he could have been killed at the scene by firing squad
[00:32:54] of swords, ultimately it's repeated that he committed his crime
[00:32:58] in 2009 and as far as i see it, this has been 17
[00:33:02] years in the making, but guess with the live stream
[00:33:06] some people say that if you when you see something like that in real
[00:33:10] life that that can leave a sort of
[00:33:12] psychological issue with you'. having seen somebody being
[00:33:16] executed by firing squad, max, not max,
[00:33:19] Ted. Well, I totally agree that it should be
[00:33:23] - it should of course have kind of child lock on, it
[00:33:26] should be only accessible to adults who want to watch
[00:33:30] it, I mean bringing it back to our own country, I'm sure there's
[00:33:34] stadiums worth of people who would want to watch say the execution of Axel
[00:33:38] Rudicabana, this is someone in our country, and because we don't have the death
[00:33:41] penalty, this is someone who we expect to cost. like
[00:33:45] 15 million pounds the course of his life sentence, well
[00:33:49] some people really something we
[00:33:50] want, well some people
[00:33:51] agg that it's actually more expensive to - execute them, but I think that would be a
[00:33:55] good cost uh, because cost isn't always measured by money, it's
[00:33:59] cost of society, he's gone, that's what we'd like to see, all right, Max Marlow
[00:34:03] and Ted Newson, thank you very much, all right, coming up, nearly
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[00:34:25] sorry. Thousands of pro- palestine protesters march through London days
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[00:38:44] National Reporter Charlie has been in central London today where thousands of
[00:38:47] pro-palestine protesters gathered, he sent us this
[00:38:51] report, well behind me is the Pro Palestine
[00:38:54] demonstration today, around 10,00 people have marched and
[00:38:58] they're now gathering behind the senator, you see the Palestinian
[00:39:02] flag, beside the flags the British armed forces and the glorious
[00:39:06] dead. behind me there's a stage where there have been several speeches made by
[00:39:10] activists, including Jeremy Corbin, the former leader the labor party
[00:39:14] and other pro-palestinian protesters. there are
[00:39:18] more thousands of people behind me in fact, and we've also seen the flags
[00:39:21] the Islamic Republic of Iran, that regime being waved by the
[00:39:25] protesters here, well earlier today, inside the protest, as
[00:39:29] it marched past the counter demonstrators, we did see several people
[00:39:33] being arrested, the Metropolitan police which put in strict conditions for this
[00:39:37] march, said it had arrested some people for
[00:39:40] displaying signs in support of a prescribed
[00:39:43] organization, that is Palestine Action, and we also saw
[00:39:47] several people arrested on suspicion of criminal damage,
[00:39:51] saw a communist group climbing top the
[00:39:54] battle of Britain memorial, quite... ordinary scenes there
[00:39:58] is dozens of protesters and communists stood on
[00:40:02] that extremely important memorial to the British people,
[00:40:06] but while I was speaking to people on the march, I got a sense of what they were here
[00:40:10] for and what they actually believed. so many people told me they did not
[00:40:14] think that the state of Israel should exist. I also heard from one
[00:40:18] man who said he wouldn't speak to me because he was, he said, not
[00:40:21] able to speak to someone like a zionist. that's are his words, here's what he
[00:40:25] said. are you anti
[00:40:29] I'm a journalist, I don't take a position, I'm here to speak to people for their views. Okay, okay,
[00:40:32] so it's okay, then I can't talk to you my dear, because I don't talk to zionists, I'm sorry,
[00:40:36] yeah, I'd never talk or discuss anything with zionists, because they were
[00:40:40] criminals, they just genociders, well we also spoke to one man who said
[00:40:44] that he wanted to deproscribe Hezbolah and Hamas,
[00:40:48] the Lebanese and Palestinian terrorist organizations that have
[00:40:52] been firing rockets into Israel into civilian areas
[00:40:56] since the start the war in. 23, here's what that man said to me,
[00:41:00] did you support Hezp firing rockets into Israel on October
[00:41:03] 8th? did
[00:41:04] i support them? well,
[00:41:07] you no, I'm not going to answer that question. you could argue that because they are an occupied
[00:41:11] people, they have a right to use violence. um, how you use violence is
[00:41:15] another matter. I have my views, I told you I do not believe in
[00:41:18] violence. I do not believe in violence for prosecuting your point of view. so if you don't
[00:41:22] believe in violence, why do you think that this terrorist organization should be
[00:41:26] deprescribed? call it a terror terrorist organization uh
[00:41:30] and that is an arbitrary designation and while moving around the protest,
[00:41:34] speaking to people from the pro Israeli side, they told me
[00:41:37] why they thought that this idea of a genocide
[00:41:41] was a lie and that people here were getting it all wrong when they were
[00:41:45] protesting against the situation in the middle east. there must be some people
[00:41:49] here who support the right of Israel to exist and that's all zionism is.
[00:41:53] it's the right of Jews to have a homeland. so we're standing here, we're entitled
[00:41:57] to be here. and we're saying, in response to the hysteria that you've been
[00:42:01] seeing around the country for the last year or two uh anti-Israel
[00:42:05] hysteria, we're saying get over it. come on, Israel's not going
[00:42:08] anywhere. so we heard from... protesters on both the Israeli and the
[00:42:12] pro-palestinian side, lot of strong perspectives heard, but
[00:42:16] also some really confusing conspiratorial and
[00:42:19] strange uh perspectives shared, some of it just rank
[00:42:22] antisemitism to be frank, one man telling us that the Jews
[00:42:26] did a deal with nazi Germany to move the Jews out of
[00:42:30] Europe and put them into the Middle East, one man said to him,
[00:42:34] look, there are around million Jews from the Middle East who are
[00:42:38] in Israel, this isn't some European nation, it's jews all
[00:42:42] around the world to a part the state of Israel. There's one final
[00:42:46] conversation I want to bring you, I'm mats with a man who told me that for
[00:42:50] my reporting I was going to get silver bag. You
[00:42:53] told me that I'm going to get my bag of silver at the end the month. What does that
[00:42:57] mean? What do you think a bag of silver is? A bag of
[00:43:01] silver is a bag of silver. Yeah, and what does it mean metaphorically speaking? It
[00:43:05] sounds like you're referring to me getting payment for doing my job. We're getting someone now. So who
[00:43:09] do you think's paying me? 'you're your
[00:43:12] employer, okay? yes, I do my job, I get paid for it. so what? yeah, you asking
[00:43:16] the questions now? I'm asking what you mean by that. I'm a journalist, I meant to
[00:43:20] ask questions. what is your question? what do you mean? what do you mean
[00:43:24] by I'm going to get a bag of silver doing my job? my employer will pay me, do you mean
[00:43:28] someone else will pay me? well, I think you just answered your own question.
[00:43:31] now there could be many perspectives as to what that man meant by
[00:43:35] that, but any jew watching or listening to this, their hair will be
[00:43:39] standing on the back'. their neck when they hear a man talking about people being
[00:43:42] paid in bags of silver for their reporting. the
[00:43:46] insinuation was clear for those who might have heard it.
[00:43:50] that's what we've seen today at this march in central london.
[00:43:54] well we're trying now by at charlie peters himself. charlie,
[00:43:58] welcome to the program. wow, it's sometimes i
[00:44:01] see this and i think nobody seems to know really what
[00:44:05] anything means or what what they're doing or why they're even protesting,
[00:44:09] yet they have. this sort of view, but it's not
[00:44:13] really supported with any understanding of what's actually been going on, it's it's very
[00:44:16] odd, very distorted, nana, you're right, so many people
[00:44:20] there admitting that they were consuming much their information about the conflict
[00:44:24] from social media, and perhaps that's why we saw so many
[00:44:28] people standing on the battle of britan memorial
[00:44:31] while waving communist flags and chanting
[00:44:35] Palestinian slogans, that for me was one the most shocking images the
[00:44:39] day, the... eventually did make several arrests on suspicion of criminal
[00:44:43] damage, but to see people standing on that memorial,
[00:44:47] the second world war heroes, that was quite astonishing,
[00:44:50] and many the people i spoke to today, nana, i could tell they w being very
[00:44:54] careful with their language, that man holding up that sign saying
[00:44:58] that he thought that Hamas and Hezbulah should not be prescribed,
[00:45:02] those are islamist terrorist organizations funded by
[00:45:05] Iran, he said he did not want to tell me whether I whether
[00:45:09] he's the actions of hezbolah. that was very careful.
[00:45:13] however, nana, not everyone was as careful as him.
[00:45:17] here is another clip, we've been saving back. and i spoke to lady who was
[00:45:20] dressed fully in the garb the Islamic
[00:45:24] Republic of Iran. is what she had to say about
[00:45:28] those Islamist terrorist organizations? Iran
[00:45:31] 100%. I support Iran. um, at the end the day,
[00:45:35] as far as I'm concerned, America should be kicked out. This
[00:45:38] is an unjust war. Britain. nothing to do with it, you said you support Iran
[00:45:42] 100%, does does that does that include the
[00:45:46] proxy groups that Iran supports, hezbolah, Hamas, other
[00:45:49] organizations, freedom fighters, yes or no, you support
[00:45:53] them as well, the freedom fighters, at the end the day they
[00:45:56] are the resistance, yeah, they're fighting for their
[00:46:00] lands, they fight, somebody was to come here
[00:46:03] and attack you, take your homes, are you going to fight
[00:46:07] back, yes, you're gonna, so as far as I'm concerned, their
[00:46:10] families are getting killed, they were small when they had to put up with all of
[00:46:14] this, this has been going on for how many years since
[00:46:17] 1948, you now they're freedom
[00:46:21] fighters, so as far as I'm concerned, they're protecting their
[00:46:24] land, so pardon, I
[00:46:28] support them because I support reason why is because they're freedom
[00:46:32] fighters, they're not just fighting anyone, Israel
[00:46:36] has started all of this, Iran, I mean,
[00:46:40] the the freedom fighters, they're fighting for their land, they're fighting for
[00:46:44] their people,
[00:46:45] you know, they're fighting for their livelihoods. when Hezball fires rockets
[00:46:49] into Israel, targeting Israel, you support that as well. "well, I'm
[00:46:53] far, as far as I'm concerned, Israel is the problem the world,
[00:46:57] it's the biggest cancer the world. Israel is attacking
[00:47:01] the whole the Middle East, what's an
[00:47:05] astonishing perspective, that was to hear, Israel is a cancer the
[00:47:08] world, and she said, "I fully support
[00:47:12] Hezbullah and Hamas." I should stress, now that is a
[00:47:16] crime in the United Kingdom to say that those are
[00:47:19] prescribed terrorist organizations. been
[00:47:22] prescribed in its entirety since 2019, it is
[00:47:26] illegal to express support for them just as it's illegal to express
[00:47:29] support for ISIS, but that's what that lady did with
[00:47:33] microphone and camera on her, she was happy to say
[00:47:37] that she fully supports them, she backs Iran, she was wearing the symbol the
[00:47:40] Islamic Republic of Iran, and then I saw so many Iranian
[00:47:44] flags there, all the people I asked about their support for Iran said
[00:47:48] that was just normal, they were resisting a war, and just finally Nana, when I was speak.
[00:47:52] speaking to
[00:47:53] that lady, behind me was the senataff, the tribute to our
[00:47:57] millions of war heroes, it said the glorious dead on
[00:48:00] the side, and there i was, speaking to woman who supports terrorist
[00:48:04] organizations committed to the slaughter of Jews in
[00:48:08] Israel, but also to many westerners all around the world, including
[00:48:12] people from the United Kingdom, it was horrendous contrast to be
[00:48:15] frank, wow, Charlie Peters, thank you very much, wow, great
[00:48:19] report, that's Charlie Peters GB's national reporter. Freedom fighters.
[00:48:23] Well, I am absolutely staggered. I do not
[00:48:27] understand how woman can stand there wearing
[00:48:31] bandana supporting uh the Iranian
[00:48:35] government, does she understand that if she did that, in
[00:48:39] Iran, she would be arrested and in prison for
[00:48:43] showing her hair. Does she understand that? It is illegal
[00:48:47] for woman to go onto the streets of Iran showing their
[00:48:51] hair without. being properly veiled, that is why
[00:48:54] Masha Amini, who died in custody at the hands
[00:48:58] the IRGC just a couple of years ago, led to
[00:49:02] demonstrations across the land where thousands of very, very
[00:49:06] courageous women took off their head scarves to
[00:49:09] protest how women are treated in that country, and she stands there and says
[00:49:13] that, it is incredible, sebastian, yeah, I mean, Peter's found,
[00:49:17] Charlie's found some - some extreme voices there, hasn't he, um, what we have
[00:49:21] to remember is that among the... is there are people who are protesting peacefully and hold quite moderate views,
[00:49:25] I think it's quite possible to say that what happened in Gaza was appalling and to
[00:49:29] go out and to voice your frustration at that without being antisemitic, without supporting
[00:49:33] dangerous regimes. I don't, well if you're not part the solution, you're part the
[00:49:37] problem, Andrew Rosendell, quickly, I'm afraid to say we have an enemy
[00:49:40] within, uh, many the people that we've just seen on those
[00:49:43] clips frankly, they not only hate Israel, they hate
[00:49:47] our country, and I think that the British public
[00:49:51] have had in enough these
[00:49:54] extremists dominating the streets of London and I think it's
[00:49:58] time to say enough is enough. Well, I'm with you on those marches right,
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[00:53:18] welcome back to Alex Armstrong tonight, now GB news is in the Falkland
[00:53:21] islands as the row over sovereignty
[00:53:23] continues,
[00:53:31] so Mark White is there for us. So
[00:53:35] Mark White talk to me about the Falklands and what kind of reception have you had
[00:53:39] since you've arrived? Well, it's
[00:53:43] been incredible. I have to say uh, yesterday we were talking all about of
[00:53:47] course the belly eaking from the Argentinian president,
[00:53:50] Havier Miley uh and his demands for
[00:53:54] sovereignty uh over these islands, but today we've been taking
[00:53:58] look really - what makes the islands take and what
[00:54:02] makes the economy here actually selfs.
[00:54:05] everything from the which is
[00:54:08] now very, very healthy indeed, providing squid
[00:54:12] for instance right around the world, the calamari
[00:54:15] that you would be tasting in the finest restaurants around
[00:54:19] the world uh will probably have come from the waters around the
[00:54:23] Falklands, 58% of GDP comes from the
[00:54:27] fishing industry alone uh and then there's the tourism industry
[00:54:31] as well, we were up close and
[00:54:33] per personal with um some penguins earlier this afternoon as
[00:54:37] well, which was just huge privilege uh to be able to
[00:54:41] see wildlife in its natural habitat like that
[00:54:45] uh and then the biggest shot in the arm as far as the economy
[00:54:49] is concerned will come in the next year or two when they start
[00:54:53] drilling oil uh in the sealine field the
[00:54:56] Falklands about two or 300 miles north of where we
[00:55:00] are at the moment and it is uh so significant and
[00:55:05] terms of economic uh terms that it
[00:55:08] will boost the GDP by um
[00:55:12] more than double uh when that one oil field the sea
[00:55:16] line field is up and running uh a couple of years
[00:55:20] time and that's just one of number of different
[00:55:23] oil fields around the Falkland's basin that oil field
[00:55:27] itself is about a billion recoverable barrels of
[00:55:31] oil but round the Falklands bason there could be
[00:55:35] up to 60 billion barrels of recoverable
[00:55:38] oil and gas, so very, very significant uh
[00:55:42] deposits there, and the perhaps one the very
[00:55:46] significant factors behind
[00:55:48] Argentina's uh renewed
[00:55:51] attempts to gain control of this island
[00:55:55] archipelago, uh, have you manage to get
[00:55:59] to speak to any the Falkland islanders and and if so have they
[00:56:03] mentioned that they're happy to be... part the United Kingdom
[00:56:06] be being a part of Britain. Yeah,
[00:56:10] we've spoken to money uh many
[00:56:13] uh in just the last uh 24 hours that we've been here and they've
[00:56:17] all got that message. They are absolutely resolutely
[00:56:21] determined ish, they are very proud, you see the
[00:56:25] flags uh flying all around this island
[00:56:29] um and what they say is the more that Argentina
[00:56:32] presses uh for sovereignty of. these islands,
[00:56:36] the the more they are determined and the more resolute
[00:56:40] they are to remain British. Mark white, thank you very much,
[00:56:44] he's there live in
[00:56:45] the Falklands. let's get the thoughts of my panel, I'll come to you Andrew
[00:56:48] Rossendale. so well, I've been to the Falklands
[00:56:52] on several occasions and I can tell you that pretty much every single
[00:56:56] person on those islands wants to stay
[00:56:59] British, they have the right of
[00:57:02] self-determination, we fought a war, a conflict. to ensure that those
[00:57:06] people had the right to determine their own destiny. now it so happens at
[00:57:10] years later that lot of wealth could be created through the
[00:57:14] extraction of oil and gas from the seas around the for condiland. 'It
[00:57:17] belongs to
[00:57:18] the Falklanders, it's jully lucky, actually that that the Falkland
[00:57:22] islands are an overseas territory, not part the UK, because you'd probably find this labor
[00:57:26] government tell them they couldn't extract the oil and the gas, but they're going to
[00:57:30] become very much self-sufficient, they already are, um, I'm
[00:57:34] hoping that uh it will be a model of a British overseas
[00:57:37] territory, but they're only able to do this because 40
[00:57:41] odd years ago the armed services went there and rescued those islands
[00:57:45] from an illegal Argentine invasion'.
[00:57:47] you got 20 seconds or 10 seconds even briefly um,
[00:57:49] i think we're largely
[00:57:50] in agreement here, the forklines must be British, self-determination is a principle that applies everywhere in
[00:57:54] the world, and um, this is no exception. well, let's hope
[00:57:57] that they say see that with the chegos, because the chegosians would like to stay on
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[01:01:17] It's 10 o'clock, I'm Nana Aquare in for Alex Armstrong
[01:01:21] tonight,
[01:01:27] one%, illegal migrants aren't just
[01:01:31] pretending to be gay anymore, now they reportedly using fake sick
[01:01:34] notes to stay in Britain, and I haven't uh
[01:01:38] downplayed the seriousness the findings, they are
[01:01:42] findings that need to be um
[01:01:44] considered, yes it's been... field that
[01:01:48] hundreds of thousands of pounds in freebees have been handed to labour
[01:01:52] politicians, and the decade we've just been through has not been good
[01:01:55] enough, I don't think Brexit has helped us, if I'm
[01:01:59] honest, I think it has caused harm, so what are we going to do in this next
[01:02:03] decade? a Brexit warning from the
[01:02:07] express, the EU would blunder Britain if we
[01:02:10] ever returned, and on the front page the daily mail horror at
[01:02:14] the zoo, the 30th stone tiger... that has mowed a man to
[01:02:18] death, and on my panel tonight, journalist and broadcaster Linda Deuvley,
[01:02:22] reform UK, Andrew Rosendell, and former Labor counselor
[01:02:26] Sebastian Sellick, and should executions be lied,
[01:02:30] streamed and we'll make sure that people are able
[01:02:33] to to watch it, that it's public uh, because people need to understand
[01:02:36] that this is uh, there's serious consequences for these types
[01:02:39] of
[01:02:52] things, illegal migrants are lying, surprise, surprise, to
[01:02:56] stay in Britain, asylum seekers are reportedly buying fake.
[01:03:00] sick notes online for just 44 pounds so they can dodge
[01:03:04] home office interviews about their claims. no
[01:03:07] GP appointment needed just describe your illness and it's approved the
[01:03:11] same day. now the tactic buys them up to six months, six months to
[01:03:15] build their story, keep working illegally and dig themselves deeper
[01:03:19] into this country. an internal home office memo
[01:03:23] seen by the daily mail, tell staff to report any
[01:03:27] these notes that turn up in
[01:03:30] and the mail proved how easy it is, they
[01:03:34] submitted id, filled out a form, recorded the 32nd
[01:03:38] video claiming to have the flu and got their sick note in less
[01:03:42] than 24 hours, but this isn't even half of it,
[01:03:45] earlier this week we learned that illegal immigrants are pretending
[01:03:49] to be gay to stay, a group is accused of
[01:03:53] helping Bangladeshies fraugently claim asylum by
[01:03:57] providing fake letters of support and evidence packages. is designed to
[01:04:01] fool case workers, they're charging between 1,000 and
[01:04:04] 4,500 pounds a time, staging gay events and photo
[01:04:08] shoots, and this isn't even new, because back in April, groups of
[01:04:12] Pakistani and Bangladeshi men were caught on camera openly
[01:04:16] admitting that they were pretending to be gay, attending fake
[01:04:20] meetings and sending the pictures straight to the home office. Another
[01:04:24] those attending tell our undercover reporter that many people at the
[01:04:27] meeting are not really gay.
[01:04:50] The system is being abused on industrial scale a
[01:04:53] whistleblower at the home office has claimed that only around 1% the sigling
[01:04:57] claims are actually genuine. While ordinary British
[01:05:01] people wait years for a GP appointment and struggle with a broken
[01:05:05] NHS, illegal migrants are buying medical notes online,
[01:05:09] faking sexuality claims so they can jump the queue and
[01:05:13] stay here. This government talks tough on borders, but the reality
[01:05:16] is it's a free for all. The British public are being played for fools
[01:05:20] and we, the taxpayers are footing the bill. All right, let's
[01:05:24] get the thoughts of my panel, journalist and broadcaster Linda Dubai, Reform
[01:05:27] UK, Andrew Rossendell, and for. labour council Sebastian
[01:05:31] Selec. All right, I'll start with you, Linda Duby. I think the problem
[01:05:35] we've got here is with illegal or undocumented um
[01:05:39] immigration here, you've opened the door to organize crime, and
[01:05:43] that goes all the way through from - from fairly
[01:05:47] minor instances to fairly major things like
[01:05:50] trafficking and uh modern
[01:05:52] slavery or and all sorts of things are going on
[01:05:56] now that we have lost control of. Now one the... biggest
[01:06:00] things uh that's happening here is that people are getting these
[01:06:04] um the these uh permission to remain by saying that they're gay and they face
[01:06:08] persecution in their own country because in Bangladesh it is illegal to be gay I
[01:06:12] think in Pakistan it's unlawful I think in Nigeria
[01:06:16] it's actually criminal it's criminalized and and the problem is there are now
[01:06:20] so many claims uh they've gone up from 30
[01:06:22] just over 3200 to 82,00 in
[01:06:25] 2025 that we can't keep control of this we've got
[01:06:29] that that's a civil servant there is saying that there are many, many
[01:06:33] people that are trying to claim the right to stay in this country
[01:06:37] when they gay, when they're not, they've got several instances of people who've been
[01:06:41] claiming political asylum for nine years, fail to get
[01:06:44] political asylum so they go down the gay route with fake
[01:06:48] photographs, fake documents, fake videos, it's
[01:06:52] just not acceptable to abuse the the hospitality and the fairness of
[01:06:56] this country in that way. do you think Sebastian, the bar is just set a bit too?
[01:07:00] in what way? sorry, well the bar being set so low for how you can claim
[01:07:04] asylum in this country, so for example, should you be able to claim
[01:07:07] asylum due to your sexuality? yeah, definitely. of course, if you're
[01:07:11] being persecuted somewhere else, you should be able to seek the shelter in Britain and other countries, we don't
[01:07:15] i don't want anybody anywhere in the world um to suffer
[01:07:19] imprisonment or worse for for their sexuality, that's
[01:07:22] horrendous, but the problem is that the people who are faking being gay are making
[01:07:26] it much harder, the people who have a justifiable. and
[01:07:30] and also really the reason I ask is because you can say that you're
[01:07:34] gay but there's nothing really that you can prove that you're gay so it makes it
[01:07:38] very difficult or you can say that you're g and make fake stuff up like these guys.
[01:07:42] and then well what happens then? so unless that thing that you're
[01:07:46] saying can be proven, it's not something that you are, it's something that you
[01:07:50] yourself can only prove in this way, then i just think it's kind of a bit of
[01:07:54] a difficult one, yeah,
[01:07:56] i don't, i personally think
[01:07:58] that the bars too low, if it's something that you if you only you
[01:08:02] can prove because it's an internal and it's your own personal sexual
[01:08:06] preference, whichever way whether you're meant to be gay or whatever, i just
[01:08:09] don't get why that would be on the list.
[01:08:13] "look, I don't think it should be, we've incentivized vast numbers of
[01:08:17] people who are not genuine asylum seekers to come to
[01:08:20] Britain, because we're so damn soft, and we've been soft
[01:08:24] for so long, so they want to come to Britain, they know that by coming
[01:08:28] here, they're going to live nice lives, they're going to get lots of
[01:08:32] free bees, lot free accommodation, free health and all the rest of it, so
[01:08:36] of course they're going to come with every kind of possible excuse to find a way into this
[01:08:40] country, I think the vast majority..." these people, there's genuine ones like the
[01:08:44] Ukrainians etc, but the vast majority are not genuine asylum
[01:08:48] seekers, so what needs to happen is these lawyers who are aiding and
[01:08:52] abeting asylum seekers to come to this country under
[01:08:56] false claim, they should be prosecuted and struck
[01:09:00] off completely, but I'm saying it's like organized
[01:09:03] crime,
[01:09:05] it is organized, because the charges between that they're charging these people between a
[01:09:09] thous pounds and a half00 pounds in to create
[01:09:13] these fake documents, I mean that is organized crime open
[01:09:17] the doors, they making it hard for genuine asylumseekers,
[01:09:20] you now this country has always taken genuine asylum seekers, but the vast
[01:09:24] numbers coming in now, no one believes that most them are here a
[01:09:28] genuine claim, so it's harming people that really need help from actually
[01:09:32] coming to the United Kingdom, so what would reform UK do about it, so as I've said we
[01:09:36] would absolutely strike off any lawyer, but what about
[01:09:39] the that's that's helping these people and uh prosecute them
[01:09:43] because they're allowing people to come to this country under false pretences, would you
[01:09:47] keep that? so for me, I would, I,
[01:09:49] you know, if you're fearing persecution for your religion or for
[01:09:53] your sexuality, these are the things where people are really taking advantage of our
[01:09:57] generosity, would you consider removing those as that
[01:10:01] bar and just changing that? I think you have to look at each
[01:10:04] individual case, because clearly they're going to be genuine
[01:10:07] people, fling persecution, they can get all the bits
[01:10:11] of documents. "they can, and that's why we need to be absolutely strict about who
[01:10:15] we allow into our country, because the British people won't wear it anymore, the British people
[01:10:19] have lost patience with this entire situation, and the
[01:10:23] other thing is you can't take the whole world into Britain, you
[01:10:27] know, there's no end of people who will find reason to claim asylum,
[01:10:31] so there has to be some kind of limit, and we have way, way
[01:10:34] way reached beyond the limit that the British people are prepared to
[01:10:38] tolerate in my view. do you think we need to do something about the numbers that we're allowing in?" "
[01:10:42] now because quite seriously the yes, because you talked
[01:10:46] about yeah, you'd if somebody's been persecuted, you want to take them in and
[01:10:50] everything, but there has to be limit surely, oh, there is limit of course, but
[01:10:54] how we reached it, do you think in your view, well the number of asilum seekers has drap
[01:10:58] dropped drastically this year, so we're not approaching a limit, we're moving away from it, and I also
[01:11:01] want to challenge the narrative that people are flocking to Britain, because if you look at the countries that take
[01:11:05] most asylum seekers, they're often neighboring countries, so it's places like Turkey and other places
[01:11:09] in the Middle East, which is logical bause that makes sense, yes? 'yeah, if you're fleeing somewhere
[01:11:13] where you are persecuted, you're going to go nearby, and even in Europe, we're not even in the top 10, but
[01:11:17] we're not as big as some the countries, which country are
[01:11:19] you going to compare us to? well, if you're taking it per capita then then that size becomes less
[01:11:23] relevant, and places like Germany take way more than we do, so Germany are much
[01:11:27] bigger than the United Kingdom, no, I'm talking per capita here as well, we're not even in the top 10 in
[01:11:31] Europe, if if you kind of standardize for population sizes, and then you have
[01:11:35] to take into account the fact that we're an island and you have to make very deadly crossing to get
[01:11:39] here, which most people understandly, it is very deadly'. would
[01:11:42] you do it? would you get a dingy? i just wouldn't go by a dingy. okay, so you wouldn't
[01:11:46] do
[01:11:47] the deadly crossing, neither would i not because it's a deadly crossing, i just wouldn't do that bause i don't like
[01:11:51] water and that's not how i would tr because you drown in it, because don't
[01:11:53] like water, i just don't like waters, no, because so you just just to be
[01:11:57] clear you saying channel crossings in a dingy are not deadly because you're going to be
[01:12:01] picked up if anything happens, you can literally guarantee that that
[01:12:04] even though the crossing itself i wouldn't advise the fact that if something does happen
[01:12:08] to you you're literally being watched so are you saying that nobody is drown? in the
[01:12:12] channel, very few, you don't think people are drowning in the channel? very few. did
[01:12:16] you hear my answer? didn't say i don't think people are drowning. okay, what are we saying? one or two, hundreds,
[01:12:20] where are we? hold a minute, i' just i don't need to give number, i just i don't
[01:12:24] think you're well with any rights not to give number, i don't
[01:12:26] need to give number, anybody, why are you asking me the question? we're having a conversation, we're
[01:12:29] not really, we're not really cuz i think you're just you're just trying to get me to
[01:12:33] give numbers and figures on something, i've just made in my view and i make this very
[01:12:37] clear, i don't think the channel crossing is that dangers, the reason why is because you're
[01:12:41] being observed. moment you get on the diggy,
[01:12:43] the fact you're
[01:12:43] being uhered away, then if there is a problem, you've got the lifeguards and everybody else in the border
[01:12:47] force ready to to say all i'm saying is it's very telling that as soon as i asked you that question your
[01:12:51] guard went up and you didn't want to as soon as you speak my guard goes up sebastian.
[01:12:55] so wasn't that question? yeah,
[01:12:57] it is, because right, where are we?
[01:13:01] i think we should listen to what the British people are saying, i think so, actually, and the British
[01:13:05] people have had enough, and for Sebastian, they
[01:13:09] think immigration is going up, for Sebastian to talk about
[01:13:12] asylum, as if, oh, actually, compared to other countries, we're not
[01:13:16] taking quite so many, we're not, so the whole nature of asylum has
[01:13:20] changed, in years gone by, asylum was something that we
[01:13:24] welcomed people. that are fleeing genuine persecution, warthorn
[01:13:27] countries, you know, we are welcoming decent uh people in this
[01:13:31] country, but our system has been abused
[01:13:34] horribly in recent decades and the British people have lost
[01:13:38] patience, and genuine asylum seekers are prevented from coming, the all these
[01:13:42] fake ones coming in, so enough as enough again, once again the British
[01:13:46] state has failed to look after the interests the British
[01:13:49] people, and reform UK government will tackle this and will tackle it
[01:13:53] very quickly because system is a sorting system, it finds the genuine ones, gives
[01:13:57] them asylum and gets rid of those who aren't genuine, don't you
[01:13:59] agree, don't you agree, sebastian, we are
[01:14:03] covering, sebastian, we are covering story
[01:14:07] about people who are making fake claims, yes, i'm telling you, i agree that
[01:14:11] that's a bad idea, there's a lot of people doing, not once have i said that they
[01:14:15] should be doing that, of course if you're abusing the asilum system you should not be given asylum, that
[01:14:18] is so obvious anybody would agree with that, but you're telling us that there is a
[01:14:22] sorting system, clearly not? No, no, no, I'm telling you that there should
[01:14:26] be a sorting system, that's what the asylum system exists to do, does it not? I thought you said there
[01:14:30] was a sorting system, well yeah, you you works, we
[01:14:34] could always make it better, of course we could, or make it work,
[01:14:37] huh? How would you make it work? You could make it much
[01:14:41] more diligent. I, I, I mean, I've spoken to civil servants who think
[01:14:45] they should be spending more time investigating
[01:14:48] claims, how? And actually, this week, the home
[01:14:51] office investigators were out closing. the
[01:14:55] organization with that was organizing fake documents, so we do
[01:14:59] more of that, close down more organizations, but that doesn't answer my
[01:15:03] question, I asked you how would you improve the the sorting process, well how would
[01:15:06] you, how would you improve it? i don't know,
[01:15:10] you don't know, asking them to answer something,
[01:15:12] so so linda has said we should approve improve the sorting process and i'm asking how, well you
[01:15:16] said it's a sorting system, so you tell us how it should be, no, so didn't make the claim that we should
[01:15:20] improve it, linda did, i'm asking her to clarify that, that's all now, it's quite quite
[01:15:24] innocent, you improve the system, haven't said that the system, asking your
[01:15:27] question, you don't think it needs to be improved, you think i don't know, but i'm not saying i, well do you
[01:15:31] think the system needs to be improved? the system can always be improved, all systems can be improved,
[01:15:34] how would
[01:15:35] you improve the system cuz you said all systems could be improved, well i would overhaul it completely
[01:15:39] and yeah, and what would you do? i would have safe and legal roots, really? so every
[01:15:43] country, or would you choose countries? how would you do that? any country, i would allow them to lodge
[01:15:46] claims within the embassies in those countries, and then we decide them remotely, then you get nobody
[01:15:50] coming on boats, nobody risking their lives, because they don't have to. how would you do that in
[01:15:54] sedan? as opposed
[01:15:58] to but what embassy would they go to in Sudan? well, this is it, it's imperfect, but
[01:16:02] it's better than what we have, it's safer than what we have, but there's no embassy in Sudan,
[01:16:06] so your system, so then you have
[01:16:07] to get then you have to get to a neighboring country, but you don't have to come all the way to Britain and get on the boat, do
[01:16:11] you see how it's imperfect but better than what
[01:16:13] we have? well, I'll take silence
[01:16:17] as consent and agreement, no, I wouldn't, it doesn't mean
[01:16:21] that, it just means that well, you know, exactly, there are plenty of other countries with the same so...
[01:16:25] problem, but in response to the asylum seekers buying sick notes, a home office
[01:16:29] spokesperson said, we are committed to progressing asylum cases an
[01:16:32] efficient and cost-effective way, whilst bearing down on abuse
[01:16:36] the system, we've cut waiting times with over 70% of claims
[01:16:40] received during the last quarter of 2025, decided within
[01:16:44] six months, the highest percentage in 11 years. in line with our
[01:16:48] published policy, asylum interview will never be delayed due to illness
[01:16:52] or a medical condition without sufficient medical evidence, from a
[01:16:55] qualified professional. On fake gay asylum claims,
[01:16:59] home secretary Shavana Mahmoud said Britain will always provide sanctory to
[01:17:03] people genuinely in danger, but those fac
[01:17:06] faking persecution are beneath contempt
[01:17:10] and mock real victims who need protection. To the gangs
[01:17:14] profiting from this disgraceful fraud, you will be prosecuted, stripped of
[01:17:18] your dirty money and shut down. And to those cheating the
[01:17:21] system, your claim will be thrown out and you will be removed from. this
[01:17:25] country all right, coming up, it's been revealed that hundreds of
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[01:20:48] So is labor once again exploiting their positions
[01:20:52] for freebees. A sun investigation has revealed that
[01:20:56] labor politicians have recently uh received nearly
[01:20:59] 30000 pounds of freebes from the UAE and
[01:21:03] its football giant. Now this includes City Match tickets
[01:21:07] for. for the team that of course was found
[01:21:10] guilty of financial rule breaking last month, but it doesn't stop at
[01:21:14] football tickets. the investigation also found the evidence that the
[01:21:18] UAE treated those attending matched uh with
[01:21:21] free flowing champagne luxury flights, which raises the
[01:21:25] question about the party's connection to the Gulf state. well let's get the thoughts of my
[01:21:29] panel journalist and broadcaster Linda Duvley, reform UKMP Andrew
[01:21:33] Rosendell and former labor council Sebastian Cell. Sebastian, I will come
[01:21:37] to you because labor stood on a plint of integrity, it changed, we
[01:21:41] had the conservatives who, I'm sorry, but they were just disaster, so there'll be no
[01:21:45] support for me, from me, for them, especially in the last five
[01:21:49] years, and now labor promised to be different, and now this is the second, the
[01:21:53] moment they came into power,
[01:21:54] it was freegate with Kiss Starm and all the others, and
[01:21:56] now we're back here again, um, I mean, what's interesting about this story is the sun report is
[01:22:00] that all parties are taking money from from the UAE, um, and
[01:22:04] labor and power, and they did stand a plint of integrity, I don't let anybody off by
[01:22:08] the way, but talking about the labor government who came in talking about
[01:22:12] change, integrity, blah blah blah blah blah, and actually I don't really have a problem with
[01:22:15] any politician taking money from most organizations or
[01:22:19] or states really, where I do have a problem is when they then make decisions
[01:22:23] or campaign issues that clearly are influenced by that money that they've taken, buse
[01:22:27] and was all in support of Man City initially, wasn't he, he made that comment
[01:22:31] which he should have stayed out of, and people might be sort of looking to him and
[01:22:35] thinking, hm, although he's
[01:22:36] not named. "no, he's not, and and I think the point he was making was the
[01:22:40] amount of investment
[01:22:41] that that Abu Dhabi has made in Manchester and the economic growth that it's had as result rather
[01:22:45] than their ownership of Man City, so we've got
[01:22:47] to be careful not to blur, no, no, no, it's not being blured, but I'm just saying as in overall, it
[01:22:51] just does look a bit dodgy because the labor party did come in, we were
[01:22:55] hoping to see different sort of way of governing, and here we are again with
[01:22:59] freebes, so you have no problem with people accepting freebes, no, but the problem I have
[01:23:03] is when they then start campaigning on behalf the people who gave them the freebes, well that's why
[01:23:06] the'.
[01:23:07] are offered, well there you go, well that's it, but it's your choice whether you want to do anything about it,
[01:23:11] no, they're doing that to try and soften you up, to try and get you - to bring you
[01:23:15] in to slightly
[01:23:16] compromise you and see if they can get, that's what lobbying is,
[01:23:18] it's a whole industry built out. is actual taking actual freebes, actual
[01:23:22] uh,
[01:23:23] you know, tangible things that you could decline, of course you could, all
[01:23:27] parties could, and
[01:23:28] they haven't, yeah, those power,
[01:23:30] the plint of integrity, what about your party, and so I think all members of
[01:23:34] parliament get invited to events, special
[01:23:37] occasions, ceremonies, concerts, football
[01:23:40] matches, now sometimes it's necessary to do it because it's part of your
[01:23:44] role, particularly is a constituency link, uh, now maybe some
[01:23:48] these MPs. manchester MPs and there was a link to
[01:23:52] it, but we all have to remember that our
[01:23:55] first job is to serve the people and not to live life
[01:23:59] of riley on free b's, and what i have a problem with is not MPs doing
[01:24:03] their job and accepting invitations the link to their work, we all have to
[01:24:07] do that.
[01:24:08] what i don't like is the hypocrisy the labour
[01:24:11] party, because the labour party were the biggest critics of all this
[01:24:15] under the last government, and they have, they're far worse than
[01:24:19] any - previous set of MPs from what it seems
[01:24:22] in taking freebes, look at Kier Starmer, the moment he became prime
[01:24:26] minister, getting new suits, new spectacles and goodness knows what else, so
[01:24:30] I just don't like this labor hypocrisy, and that's what I see,
[01:24:33] complete hypocrisy from the labor party, so what should they do, well not accept
[01:24:37] them, I'm asking, well you have to use judgement, you have to use judgment and
[01:24:41] common sense, if there is some kind of event
[01:24:45] or visit, and I've been on international visits bause I do lot of foreign affairs
[01:24:49] work, 'you have to sometimes do that as
[01:24:52] an MP and you have to declare it and you have to show integrity in what
[01:24:56] you're doing, what you don't do is to go on loads and loads of jollies
[01:25:00] and have a great time uh when actually MP should
[01:25:03] focus on what really matters and what their job is as you
[01:25:07] know to represent the people and to defend the interests the country and some
[01:25:11] people clearly as we've seen on this they're clearly abusing it but the worst thing
[01:25:15] is they're hypocrites because they criticized it before but they do it themselves
[01:25:18] can i just say I'd like to just say that I I think you've got a very good point
[01:25:22] there, because labor have put themselves forward as this kind of moral guardians
[01:25:26] in the political arena, um, and and that is not the
[01:25:30] case. Um, now you raised a really important point, you
[01:25:34] you said that actually none these gifts should be accepted if there's a conflict of
[01:25:37] interest, it should be perfectly within the the the
[01:25:41] mental capacity of any MP to look a situation and work out
[01:25:45] whether they should or should not be accepting tickets, airline flights,
[01:25:49] gifts of any. description, but when I just want to make one point about the sun
[01:25:52] story, which is fairly comprehensive, it is absolutely obvious from the sun
[01:25:56] story that the vast majority these gifts of football
[01:26:00] tickets of airline tickets went to labor party, because the vast majority
[01:26:04] of MPs are labor MPs, it's simply proportional, no, it's not
[01:26:08] proportional, not if you read the story, I mean I've read
[01:26:12] the story and there's a largest party in government, so it's unsurprising just as the tories were
[01:26:16] when they were the largest party are going to be taking the most.
[01:26:20] well go and run me through it, no, you can't keep doing that, but you're going to make
[01:26:24] an argument, back it up, well pull the sun story up then,
[01:26:28] but you you want me through it, no, because we we've read
[01:26:32] the sun story, we know the majority the
[01:26:35] gifts went to the labour
[01:26:37] party, to the majority they
[01:26:41] hold in the house of, they might be the biggest party in
[01:26:45] government, but the real problem here is the fact that they stood a plenty
[01:26:49] of integrity. and and they said they promised change and this is not what we're
[01:26:52] seeing here, we're seeing the just as bad if not worse did they
[01:26:56] ever say
[01:26:59] but don't think
[01:27:00] well and also also the other thing is on the backdrop of what this country is going through
[01:27:03] so the optics are very bad for those of us who are
[01:27:07] working - but off to try and make ends meat as they increase taxes
[01:27:11] and put on whatever taxing this tax that all right fair enough they're in
[01:27:14] government you know i'm not happy with the tax you think
[01:27:18] let me let me get to the end uh 'and then you'll find out what I think yeah
[01:27:21] um, but the bottom line is this that what
[01:27:25] it looks like, the optics are very bad when we the public are
[01:27:29] financing all these other things to try and keep this country afloat and they accepting free
[01:27:33] because it's not good, so you will then condemn Nigel Faraj who took
[01:27:37] 9,00 pounds to go to the Formula 1 in
[01:27:39] Abu Dhabi, well he's not in government right now and he also has, well he's an MP,
[01:27:43] he res he also hasn't stod a plant of integrity right,
[01:27:47] he hasn't gone out there and said I'm going to change this when not going to do politics like
[01:27:51] this, we're not going to we're not going to accept frees and blah blah blah blah, the labor government have stood out
[01:27:55] there and told us that that's what they just so we understand your view for everybody at home, it's fine
[01:27:59] for Nigel Farage to do it, but it's not fine for labor to do it, it's not fine, I don't like anyone
[01:28:03] taking so you will condemn Nigel Farage, let me be very clear,
[01:28:05] I don't like anyone taking free beast,
[01:28:09] including did you hear the word anyone, I
[01:28:13] don't like anyone including anyone, how much more do I what does
[01:28:16] anyone mean to you, does that mean does is he not included in anyone? I've just
[01:28:20] explained
[01:28:21] so you're conming, I'm not condemning anyone, I'm just saying I don't agree with anyone
[01:28:25] taking free beasts okay, Sebastian, you're the only MP singling, you're the only
[01:28:29] person singling out one MP, let's talk. in general
[01:28:33] terms, MPs have a job to do, and sometimes we do have to take
[01:28:37] part in events and visits and it has to be proportionate to
[01:28:41] our work, we have
[01:28:42] to declare it, and it has to be relevant to what we're doing, and I think what
[01:28:45] we're saying is that clearly this looks way over the top from what
[01:28:49] I can see, I can't believe all those labor MPs have the need
[01:28:53] to attend all these events and take part in all these
[01:28:56] activities and and take whatever donations they may or may not have
[01:29:00] received, but I don't want to single out any... particular MP and that's what you're trying to do, but that's
[01:29:04] that's awkward for you, isn't it? because the person I'm signing out is your party leader who's taken
[01:29:08] 900 pounds from abudabi formula 1 to go to the form,
[01:29:11] but he's not hypocrite, how does that further? unlike the labor
[01:29:15] party who condemned all this before, and they're on the gravy train straight
[01:29:18] afterwards, yeah, but that's not the
[01:29:21] point, we're talking about hypocrisy though, you have to ask him that, I didn't know
[01:29:25] about this until this evening, but what matters is that that he's
[01:29:29] got integrity, he's declared it, clearly he does. because and you're talking only
[01:29:33] about one mb, I'm talking about
[01:29:35] generally, excuse me,
[01:29:39] excuse me, okay, is not here to defend himself, no, but
[01:29:43] he's not, no, no, no, he's not here to defend himself, so we have to, we
[01:29:47] have to, so I'm going to point out now, something because I found the
[01:29:51] uh, right paragraph, labor took the biggest share with almost
[01:29:54] 275,00 pounds worth of
[01:29:58] freebees across 28 entries for
[01:30:01] 25. of individual MPs, the tories had more
[01:30:05] entries at 43 and more MPs, 38
[01:30:09] mps, however they took 100,00 pounds
[01:30:12] less than the labour party, which is not proportionate
[01:30:16] to the majority that the labour party has in the house of
[01:30:19] commons. um, it's not far off though, is it? well, I
[01:30:23] mean, you're right, 175 to 275, and you've got what
[01:30:26] 4000 mps to about 200, close only counts in hand grenades and bore
[01:30:30] room dancing,
[01:30:33] the figures, not far off is not good enough, well what's the
[01:30:37] proportion? give me the ratio? oh no, i think we need
[01:30:40] to we'll
[01:30:42] do the mat in the break, yeah you do the mat in the break cuz i'm noting with it, the
[01:30:46] bottom line is this, i can't stand hypocrisy and i don't particularly like anyone accepting
[01:30:50] freebees, especially if you're in government, i also don't like those in government doing second jobs, if
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[01:36:47] a look at the Sunday telegraph. Trump, Zelensky must
[01:36:51] be owsted in the observer, the return
[01:36:55] the public execution. The Sunday
[01:36:58] Express, EU would plunder Britain if
[01:37:02] Brexit were reversed. Right, let's get the thoughts of my panel
[01:37:05] journalist and broadcaster Linda Dubley, reform UK, Andrew
[01:37:09] Rosendell, and former labor councer Sebastian Sallec. All right, let's have
[01:37:13] look, what should we go for first? Let's go for the Sunday
[01:37:16] telegraph um this one actually in the
[01:37:19] corner um oh it's in the corner actually it's story about burnham
[01:37:23] rushes to ax photo ids at
[01:37:26] elections why is he rushing to do that is he trying to get everyone
[01:37:30] to vote quickly ooh are we sensing an election a little bit
[01:37:34] earlier than maybe what do you think Andrew well that worries me mean we
[01:37:38] bought this idea in to stop frauds of people coming in and
[01:37:41] voting several times or voting for members their fan or
[01:37:45] voting for people that have died, having photo id prevents all that. now the
[01:37:49] fact that if Bernham is suggesting we get rid of that, he's
[01:37:53] inviting corruption to return, so that's very concerning.
[01:37:57] if that actually uh, he's going to do that, yes, it might
[01:38:01] sound like he's preparing for early election, because he probably thinks
[01:38:04] this change would benefit the labour party, potentially,
[01:38:08] because why though, people are people who commit fraud more likely to vote
[01:38:12] for them, i don't think so, maybe. so why would you do that though?
[01:38:16] Sebastian Cell, do you see any reason why Burnham, Andy Burnam might rush to act photo
[01:38:20] ids at election, but it sounds like they're saying that he's in a rush to
[01:38:24] do this, yeah, look, I'm pleased that this is in the in the offing, um, that law
[01:38:28] was brought in by the tories, um, what does it do, makes it more likely for you to be able to
[01:38:32] vote, if you've got ID, you're going to be older, you're going to be less marginalized, it's, I think it's
[01:38:36] anti-democratic, well, just forcing someone to show the idea, someone to have
[01:38:40] idea
[01:38:40] in the first place,
[01:38:42] and then what's wrong with that, I mean, I would expect that to... that you are who you
[01:38:45] say you are and that you are not somebody else pretending to vote on behalf of somebody
[01:38:49] else, well that's that's the whole point, the reality is if you ask the electoral commission, the
[01:38:53] instances of voter fraud is vanishingly low, so it just wasn't an issue that
[01:38:57] needs. 'well okay, but I'd still want it to vanish, so like most
[01:39:00] people have a passport, if you go somewhere you can bring a passport as id, can't you surely? well
[01:39:04] no, the point is not everyone does have a passport and therefore we're disenfranchising those
[01:39:08] don't do, so these guys are never gone holiday, but most isn't good enough, and this is the thing
[01:39:12] everyone can afford to go abroad or to have a passport was a passport, you could
[01:39:16] have other forms of ideas, why would you not want
[01:39:19] people to prove who they are before they cast their vote,
[01:39:23] because up until the point where that law was brought in the instances of voter fold was so small that it was
[01:39:27] issue,
[01:39:27] but we what
[01:39:28] we know is that the touries thrive off folks from people who do have that kind of idea who maybe a little
[01:39:32] bit older and therefore
[01:39:34] are able to produce the id, the kind of doors that i knock on so by your logic then
[01:39:38] perhaps labor are doing this because those who don't have ids are more
[01:39:42] likely to vote for them so that's why they want to do
[01:39:43] that so the point of enfranchisement is you have to make it as easy to vote as possible and that's why i
[01:39:47] want to vote online and all sorts of other methods but by saying
[01:39:51] that you have to have id you make it that little bit harder for people to be able to cast
[01:39:55] anyone can
[01:39:56] come in and vote no and you have to have id, i think this is, but why? because
[01:40:00] the problem wasn't there to begin with, just you said it's vanishing in low,
[01:40:03] but the fact that it is vanishing i low,
[01:40:06] you don't want it to then balloon and get bigger, people might
[01:40:11] worried decide, about
[01:40:12] but it, nobody's maybe, but
[01:40:12] you don't know that, so
[01:40:13] what is the data, how small is it, it's incredibly, so i'll show you linda uh, here
[01:40:17] we go, so at the 2024 election there
[01:40:20] were uh 236 cases
[01:40:24] um and yeah, but that was with photo id uh
[01:40:27] what's true? what was it before photo id? let's have look. let's go back to
[01:40:31] the what was it? 2019 election? uh, voter fraud. come
[01:40:35] back to me, i'm going to do a bit of googling and i will let you know. uh, i'll come back to
[01:40:39] you, that's we won't forget that will we. all right, let's do trump and zelensky in the
[01:40:42] meantime. - do do remind us to come back to sebastian for the
[01:40:45] figures. um, okay, okay, this one here, the white house's
[01:40:49] anger at strikes on fuel facilities threatens to deepen the
[01:40:53] rift with the UK, so donald trump has called for vladimir.
[01:40:58] uh to be, I can't read that, to be outted
[01:41:02] basically, he wants to get rid of vladimir zelensky, well those people, the thing is lot of
[01:41:06] people say that it's not fair Zelensky hasn't had an election and so and so forth,
[01:41:10] but in times of war, it's quite difficult to have an election, and also to get people
[01:41:14] to gather in one place is unwise given the way that Vladimir
[01:41:17] Putin is behaving, I think the problem here is that um, Putin has
[01:41:21] agreed to send
[01:41:23] the this diesel to America because America has been a rock and a hard place.
[01:41:27] with trouble at the pumps, people pay more for their diesel, um, Trump has
[01:41:31] sorted that out, people think that that is being dissolted
[01:41:34] Zelensky, but Trump is obviously heading towards a really bad
[01:41:38] time in the mid-terms, so he's decided to go ahead with it, and part of
[01:41:42] that is Rubbishing Zelensky, yeah, well buse that's politics, I
[01:41:46] do wasn't tell, what do you thought, so look, it's up to the people of Ukraine who they elect as their
[01:41:50] president, I think there is issue that there has to
[01:41:53] be some democratic mandate the president of.
[01:41:57] at some point, there hasn't been an election, and I do think
[01:42:01] there's vast frustration that the war in
[01:42:05] Ukraine is just carrying on, and we all believe that
[01:42:08] there has to be solution to this, has to end, it cannot just go on and on like
[01:42:12] this, so it's not for Donald Trump or anyone else to tell the
[01:42:16] Ukrainian people who they should elect as their president, but I do
[01:42:20] think there has to be mechanism to give Mr.
[01:42:23] Zelensky or whoever a mandate to carry on governing and... to
[01:42:27] decide what the future is going to be?
[01:42:29] all right, tomasten, your thoughts on this, mortified by the fact that Trump is doing
[01:42:33] business with the Russians, as we in Britain put more and more sanctions onto them,
[01:42:37] which is something that the Tori government did before, very well, and the labor government have continued,
[01:42:41] also admirable, um, yes, you can say Zelensky must be
[01:42:45] owstered, but replaced by by whom? uh, you open up a massive
[01:42:48] question there, and this shows that Trump is no ally of uh
[01:42:52] of Ukraine, um, and is it odds with us and our European neighbors on this
[01:42:56] question? extremely... turning. I mean, how would you even run an
[01:43:00] election in in the state the country? Well, that's exactly the thing,
[01:43:04] isn't it,
[01:43:04] but you can't really, and and why would you also would be dangerous for
[01:43:08] people to come out and try and vote. And now, let's get back to Sebastian, did you find those
[01:43:12] figures? I did, yeah, I'll read you this passage. So this is from the electoral reform society who are
[01:43:16] giving evidence on the uh, on the bill. Uh, they say uh, the
[01:43:20] changes are unlikely to affect the security the scheme given that personenation was not
[01:43:24] widespread, issue before ID cards were introduced, out the... ledger cases
[01:43:28] of electoral fraud in the 2019 elections, only 33 related to
[01:43:31] personal fraud at the polling station, this comprises
[01:43:35] 0.005%
[01:43:38] the over 58 million votes casts um and only one
[01:43:42] of those allegations resulted in the conviction and one
[01:43:45] accoution, one too many though, that's one too many and also
[01:43:49] i think it's important to have id if you're going to be voted, but the vast majority not
[01:43:53] detected, that was the thing, the vast majority of of fraud
[01:43:56] cases people voting uh on behalf the people or
[01:44:00] people that are dead, these the vast majority were not detected, so if they were detected, how do
[01:44:04] you know they happen? because you can clearly see that
[01:44:08] someone has done this, because because there's a voter role as a
[01:44:12] mark register so if the dead person has voted clearly
[01:44:16] someone's done something thank you very much I need to get into the next story I want to go to the
[01:44:20] front cover the absorber the return the public execution I didn't want that to slip under
[01:44:24] the radar so in 1936 crowds in America
[01:44:28] witnessed the last public hanging uh the Trump administration now plans to
[01:44:32] live stream a firing squad uh now I don't
[01:44:36] know my my views on this are I agree with the execution of our firing.
[01:44:40] I'm not so sure whether I'd live stream it, but I have no problem with
[01:44:44] - this person being killed by firing squad, yeah, but it's the live stream, the live stream
[01:44:47] the issue even the former commander of
[01:44:51] Forthood, the base uh where this atrocity happened, the
[01:44:55] actual commander who was responsible for apprehending the terrorist
[01:44:59] involved and therefore putting him in jail is
[01:45:02] against the streaming, and I think if he and
[01:45:05] apparently you's been award the purple heart, he's been awarded various other.
[01:45:10] very distinguished medals by the American government, if he's against
[01:45:13] the um against the public execution being uh
[01:45:17] streamed live online, I think we can all kind of get behind him, because
[01:45:21] what he's saying is it's inhumane to return to some kind of
[01:45:25] medieval practice like this, but also it affects his
[01:45:29] troops abroad, they are in more danger because of this and they
[01:45:32] lack credibility because of this, and when he speaks we should be
[01:45:36] listening, I think the reason why I don't think it's appropriate is...
[01:45:40] because I don't, I think it's just a bit tasteless
[01:45:42] really, and I don't, I think it sort of gives the guy who did this what he wants, he wanted to be a
[01:45:46] marter, and you're kind of marting him, Sebastian, yeah, I agree with everything Linda said, I think
[01:45:50] this is absolutely grotesque, um, the fact that I grew up in the era
[01:45:54] where there were al-qaeda um videos that were put out online, my parents were
[01:45:58] terrified of me going out and finding those and seeing things that I would never be able to
[01:46:01] unsee, and the fact that if I have children I'm going to
[01:46:03] have to protect them from content put out by the US government is is
[01:46:07] horrifying, although I haven't said that there are plenty movies that show it. executions and I'm sort
[01:46:11] of all right with those Andrew yeah there's a lot of videos some
[01:46:13] online recently I've
[01:46:15] and seen they're not nice and I
[01:46:19] I don't want to see it I don't think it should be something like this should
[01:46:23] happen in public uh it's a matter for the United States what they do but I
[01:46:27] think that if someone is going to lose their life because they've committed
[01:46:31] a horrific crime and I agree with you I'm not against uh
[01:46:35] the death penalty in principal I think there are some
[01:46:38] situations punishment, it should be done
[01:46:42] inside a prison, it shouldn't be done on live television, I don't think that would
[01:46:46] ever be acceptable in this country, but you know, in America they do things differently,
[01:46:50] don't they? All right, well thank you for that. All right, stay with us, because coming up, Kenny Benock
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[01:50:11] Okay, let's return to tomorrow's front pages, let's have look at the front cover the
[01:50:15] mirror. Tiger park horror, oh god, this is
[01:50:18] awful, apparently this guy actually climbed into the
[01:50:21] enclosure. um and then obviously the tiger was top of him, it's a
[01:50:25] male tiger um that um attacked him and apparently this tiger had
[01:50:29] only recently been put in this zoo and there's a female tiger as
[01:50:33] well maybe they were getting on and he's just messed it up now by attacking this
[01:50:37] man he climbed in, he should have done well he just thinks that he's
[01:50:41] a predator tiger's a predator what he's hungry was eat mean
[01:50:45] probably the guy i imagine must have some kind of mental
[01:50:48] health issue or perhaps drugs were involved or something like that?
[01:50:52] because no one in their right minds, apparently the compound was extremely
[01:50:56] difficult to get into, no one in the right minds is going to try, well
[01:51:00] anyway this the front cover the mirror, man dies after he was mowed
[01:51:03] a Yorkshire uh, the sun also leads with the same story,
[01:51:07] tiger molels man to death in zoo horror, the Sunday times it
[01:51:11] leads with it's time to go, Trump tells Zelensky in bitter
[01:51:15] diesel row and the mail on Sunday, Kenny Beadenock w she's getting
[01:51:19] all festive is I'm set for an election at.
[01:51:24] Oh, let's get the thoughts of my panel, journalist and broadcaster Linda Duby, reform
[01:51:27] UK, Andrew Rosendell, and former labor council Sebastian
[01:51:30] selek, oh, not getting all excited about an election for
[01:51:34] Christmas, do you think that Sebastian, do you think that really and needs to
[01:51:38] start thinking about having that early election? I'd be doing if I were him,
[01:51:41] um, we've seen this cycle of PM after PM come in and their
[01:51:45] favorability ratings tank so quickly because we have such an impatient
[01:51:49] voter base and a sense they're right to be because we've never really recovered. from the
[01:51:52] 2008 crisis um and therefore you need that help faster and
[01:51:56] faster every time, but at the same time every leader is going to be need 5 to 10 years to sort it
[01:52:00] out, so he needs to buy that time uh probably makes a sense to go to the
[01:52:04] polls while he's popular, but also by being the biggest party labor by
[01:52:08] default have their candidates in place because most them are sitting MPs, the tories are
[01:52:12] selecting theirs now so they're still going through it and the other parties i think are starting to
[01:52:16] think about it as well, but you have that element of surprise if you go um and you
[01:52:20] have the infrastructure in place to be able to run a very good. well if Andy Buddham does
[01:52:24] go at XM and Kevin Backs in her XM suit getting ready for it um
[01:52:27] will reform UK be ready I can't see it oh absolutely we want an election as soon
[01:52:31] as possible because the country is desperately need for
[01:52:35] change uh the country is spiraling downwards under labor the
[01:52:38] conservatives are hopeless they offer no hope for the future
[01:52:41] of this country apparently she's the
[01:52:45] most popular leader right now after the after the conferences everyone seemed to love
[01:52:49] her she's not unpopular because she's
[01:52:53] really just chemy isn't she? she's not done anything particularly
[01:52:56] offensive, but she's saying things,
[01:52:59] the sound bites are there behind, she doesn't offer this country a way forward,
[01:53:02] because she was in government for 14 years, she was a minister in the last
[01:53:06] few governments, i was never a government minister, i was rebellious, i was
[01:53:10] rebellious backbencher, so kemy was part of that government that left this
[01:53:14] country in one huge mess, so we need a change, we need new
[01:53:17] government, the only hope for our country is Nigel Farage in my view
[01:53:21] and reform. say that, you would say that, linda dubley, what do you think?
[01:53:25] well, my view has always been at the general election probably going to be
[01:53:28] next May, because I think it's incredibly hard to run elections in the
[01:53:32] winter, I mean everything is much more
[01:53:35] difficult, um, but I can see that Andy Burnham has to
[01:53:39] act fairly smith, swiftly, because there's not much of a
[01:53:43] burnham bounce left, there's not much of a window left for
[01:53:46] him to walk through, certainly can be back, she's not saying
[01:53:50] Christmas, she's saying be prepared for an... election any point,
[01:53:54] that's not quite the same as saying Christmas, but certainly
[01:53:58] her speech at the party conference
[01:54:00] defined very clearly what the change in strategy
[01:54:04] is, the fact that she talked about,
[01:54:07] you know, we're a battle now for the soul the nation and things like that,
[01:54:10] means that she is on an election footing, but it would surprise
[01:54:14] me, maybe I'll be completely wrong, it would surprise me if it was
[01:54:18] as early as Christmas, but also with the green party which are literally
[01:54:35] disarray because there's some thought that uh their leader is going to
[01:54:39] have to step down, I mean, and and I don't think that could happen before
[01:54:42] Christmas, they will need to sort themselves out certainly within the next
[01:54:46] six months, there will be a leadership challenge there, I
[01:54:50] think, you see that's the thing, because if you're a lib dem, where would you go,
[01:54:54] if you don't like a Davy or you don't like your party anymore, then you've got
[01:54:58] a choice conservative or you're more likely to go to labor, I suspect
[01:55:01] them leader, and then you've got the greens, where will the greens? go
[01:55:05] there more likely to go to labor, so if if he's wise and they burden
[01:55:09] would consider that election, but I think Kemy seems to be
[01:55:12] piviting a certain direction, she's discarding, she's discarding
[01:55:16] seats like mine, and she's going for the Kensingtons, Kensington Kemy, her
[01:55:20] policies now seem to be looking to the middle
[01:55:23] classes, the the leafy suburbs, and I
[01:55:27] think that shows that they're discarding
[01:55:31] a conservative core vote which is now going reform UK, well which was... see shant we
[01:55:35] other before do seem to be tanking in the pulls. listen, there's a whole load more news to bring you. up
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[01:56:07] office, showers slowly easing as we go through tonight, turning quite
[01:56:11] chilly under clearing skies, perhaps one or two mist and fog
[01:56:14] patches, all thanks to a quick ridge of high pressure pushing through
[01:56:18] ahead the next weather system bringing rain later on Sunday,
[01:56:22] so the details for the rest of Saturday into the early hours of Sunday, we
[01:56:26] do have a scattering of showers, but they should slowly move back
[01:56:30] to coastal stretches as we head through the night, generally clear skies
[01:56:34] across... northern and eastern areas, the winds falling lighter, so single figure
[01:56:38] temperatures here, touch of grass frost possible across the northern half
[01:56:42] the UK, but thicker cloud bringing some patchy rain into the
[01:56:46] southwest. so for Sunday morning, let's have look at the details
[01:56:49] across Scotland. We do have mixture of sunny spells and scattered showers to start the
[01:56:53] day, quite a chilly start, temperatures in mid- single figures,
[01:56:57] but plenty of sunny spells in between, dry, bright start across
[01:57:01] parts of Northern Island, the one or two showers still possible into...
[01:57:05] 'England and Wales too, but thicker cloud across southwestern parts
[01:57:08] of England, lovely sunshine to start the day across eastern and
[01:57:12] southeastern parts of England, and then gradually through the day we'll see this
[01:57:16] cloud and rain slowly push north and eastwards, but it is going to be confined
[01:57:20] to western and southwestern parts, most areas on Sunday will have
[01:57:24] fine day, plenty of bright or sunny spells, the cloud increasing,
[01:57:28] but wind is generally lighter, so it should just feel a touch less chili tomorrow,
[01:57:31] temperatures still around the mid teen, 16 or 17'.
[01:57:35] across the far south. Into Monday, the band of Rain continues to
[01:57:39] push north and eastwards, we could see few heavier burts across parts of Wales, the
[01:57:43] midlands, southeast England as we move through the day, but generally overall
[01:57:46] cloudy picture across the whole the UK, some brisk winds around the
[01:57:50] coast, quite murky over the hills as well as that rain pushes
[01:57:54] through, brighter with sunshine and showers Tuesday, but then hopefully drier
[01:57:58] again on Wednesday and still on the warm side.
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