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[00:01:21] good evening and welcome. i'm nanaqu. this is Alex Armstrong [00:01:24] tonight, late [00:01:26] of edition. suggest they [00:01:27] of get of new leader who can make de because he could have [00:01:31] made many deals and for some reason he never does, that's a war that should [00:01:35] have never started, and I think it's time for Ukraine to get new [00:01:39] president. well, president Donald Trump issues a [00:01:42] stern warning to Zelensky as the US signs [00:01:45] a new diesel fuel deal with Russia, plus, the decade [00:01:49] we've just been through has not been good enough, I don't think [00:01:52] Brexit has helped us if I'm honest, I think [00:01:56] it has caused harm, so what are we going to do in this next decade? [00:02:01] "a Brexit [00:02:02] of warning from the express: the EU would blunder Britain if [00:02:06] we ever returned. Prime Minister's been pretty clear there's not [00:02:10] going to be a general election [00:02:12] of um anytime soon. Early election or [00:02:16] no early election, despite the prime minister's promising no [00:02:19] a early election, can be bednock and the tories are preparing for the prime minister to [00:02:26] of of a of you turn of on that promise. It's a frightening story, horror [00:02:27] of at the zoo, a 30-stone tiger. has mold a man to [00:02:31] death, we're joining me this evening, journalist and broadcaster Linda [00:02:35] of Dubai, reform UK MP, Andrew Rosendale, and former labor counselor Sebastian [00:02:39] Celleck. Plus, [00:02:41] me President Trump is unhappy [00:02:42] of again of about the recipient [00:02:44] of the Nobel Peace Prize. The United States of America, [00:02:48] represented by me as your president, should have received the [00:02:52] Nobel Peace [00:02:53] of Prize, but [00:02:53] didn't. [00:03:07] Yes, good evening, right, let's take a look at tomorrow's front pages, or even oh, [00:03:11] it is not tomorrow, it's still today, all right, let's have look at [00:03:13] the Sunday telegraph, Trump, [00:03:15] of Zelensky must be owted, although who is he to tell others [00:03:19] who what they should do with their leader, all right, the observer, the [00:03:22] return [00:03:23] of the public execution, uh, Sunday Express leads with [00:03:26] EU would plunder Britain if Brexit was reversed. the [00:03:32] in in mirror, tiger park, horror, man dies after malling in [00:03:36] Yorkshire Zoo, why on earth [00:03:38] in would of you go into that [00:03:40] a enclosure? the sun on Sunday, tiger malls [00:03:42] of a man to death in the zoo horror following that story, the Sunday times it's time [00:03:46] to go, trump tells Zelensky [00:03:48] in a bit of diesel row, the mail on Sunday leads Kemy, I'm set [00:03:51] of for election at exmus, right let's get the thoughts of my [00:03:55] panel broadcast of Jin Linder Jew, the form Andrew [00:03:59] Rosendale. and formulator Sebastian [00:04:02] of Sellick of all right, should we shall we start with the story of this awful, this [00:04:06] tiger morning a man to death in the zoo? buse this is just [00:04:09] horrendous, so [00:04:11] a a in tiger apparently a mold a man to death in front of horrified [00:04:14] families after the man entered its zoo enclosure yesterday, now [00:04:18] it's thought that he lept from a viewing platform, [00:04:22] whoa um and then um the big cat [00:04:25] altai, i think his name is [00:04:27] of dragged him away at the orkshare wildlife park. mean this is [00:04:30] frightening, why you would go into an encloser like that? sadly we hear that the man [00:04:34] - did [00:04:35] a die, but mean andrew frighten, well [00:04:38] of it's obviously tragic, clearly there's something [00:04:40] of wrong with the the man concerned that he would go [00:04:43] into um [00:04:45] a somewhere where a very dangerous wild animal who could do clearly lot [00:04:49] of of damage and he has killed the man [00:04:52] of [00:04:53] in of uh, i'm concerned about the zoo because zoos do fantastic job, they do lot of [00:04:56] work for education and conservation uh they look after endangered [00:05:00] species and they do a great job in this country, [00:05:04] well-run zoos where the animal welfare standards are the [00:05:07] highest are [00:05:09] of good and I hope that this is not going to damage... is lot [00:05:12] of anti-zoo people who anything like this happens, you these sort of [00:05:16] animal rights extremists will always find reason to attack [00:05:20] Zoos, I hope this is not going to be used for that, um, I'm sorry about [00:05:24] the individual concerned, but Zeus do a great job for this country, oh [00:05:28] I hate Zous, I just don't like the fact that you've got [00:05:31] these beautiful beasts and they are not able to go [00:05:35] anywhere, they're all going to go mad obviously cuz who wouldn't, and I just think it's [00:05:39] really the conservation work they do and they... ensuring [00:05:43] endangered species survive, it's fantastic. i think that's a sort of [00:05:47] loose argument, because actually you know those animals could [00:05:50] you, for example, i went to Namibia, they have wildlife parks there and they look [00:05:54] after the animals in those enclosures, they're huge, by the way, these wildlife [00:05:58] parks are acres and acres and acres they just slightly enclosed [00:06:01] this thing, but but what I'm saying is they can serve and look after the animals in their [00:06:04] environment, and to me Zeus are just cruel, for very large animals [00:06:08] and this tiger was 30 stone, yeah, can you imagine what it did to? [00:06:12] that man, it begas belief really, but for very large animals, I think [00:06:16] Zeus can be a problem, they they, I remember doing many stories on this when [00:06:20] I was report on the mail on Sunday and a colleague of mine in particular [00:06:24] um used to specialize in these stories, but they can develop what's [00:06:27] called stereotypic behavior where they just pace up and down, they [00:06:31] pace up and down, and they've gone mad, they've gone mad, there a lot of [00:06:35] bad zeos, but no, no, no, and I've I've covered [00:06:39] even really, really appalling zoos in Europe as well. as a television [00:06:43] journalist, it's very difficult to deal with very large [00:06:46] animals because the amount of space they need, polar bears, [00:06:50] tigers, lines, need a huge amount of space, but there's international [00:06:53] organizations to look at this, so you know we [00:06:57] have the barsa which is a British association, Irish association zoos and [00:07:01] aquariums, and so zoos have to be of a certain standard where [00:07:05] animal welfare is is paramount, I'm sure they're much improved to the way they [00:07:09] used to be, but we've gone off the subject because this this clearly... about this man, [00:07:13] this tragic case of this man dying, which I suspect will [00:07:16] be a mental ill health or something like to go to [00:07:20] subject, because as as you point out the zoos will then be under [00:07:24] scrutiny, I suspect, but the zoo staff here did everything, I know they did everything, [00:07:28] but the principle of a zoo, I mean just your thoughts on it, are you for them, do you [00:07:32] think they're a good idea, you buy the conservation argument, I do yeah, no I agree with Andrew, like there [00:07:36] were good zoos and bad zoos, but our standards are incredibly high in this country, and um, you think [00:07:40] the uh, the London zoo. sl do incredible [00:07:43] work, bringing bringing animals that otherwise as you say would go extinct [00:07:47] um into into life and keeping them going, mean the [00:07:51] adjacent story here is opened twitter early and i had this video served to a man being [00:07:54] malls uh and we talk about the uh the us live streaming uh [00:07:58] an execution and that kind of content's already popping up um algorithmically [00:08:02] which find really well you can't help it mean loads of people would have picked picked up their cameras [00:08:06] and started filming you now [00:08:08] it is unfortunately sadly that's that's the kind of world we live in but that's how it goes all [00:08:12] right few quite a few papers lead with that, the the mirror as well [00:08:15] leading with the same story as well, um, and [00:08:19] then let's have look at what should we have, let's have look at the [00:08:23] Sunday times, on the top, there's Amy Winehouse, [00:08:26] got dressed her soul, lovely woman, she was [00:08:28] fantastic [00:08:32] do you need some water, no got throw, cover your [00:08:36] mouth, [00:08:40] all right, how about this, it's time to go, Donald Trump tells Zelensky a bit [00:08:44] of diesel row, now listen, I, I, I quite like Donald [00:08:48] Trump, but [00:08:49] he who is not to be rutin, but who is he to tell other leaders who [00:08:53] should be leading their country and the people of Ukraine who they should have simply [00:08:57] a rarow over diesel? yeah, well look, he's trying to cover his own back here, he's facing [00:09:00] mid-terms in uh, what is it, november, november, there [00:09:04] we go, just around the corner, um, it's not going to look good for him at this [00:09:08] stage, and he's trying to make sure that the people of America have fuel [00:09:11] at decent. price and clearly he's decided that's worth buying off Putin which [00:09:15] um I would consider a line crossed and um yeah [00:09:19] ooh scary now was actually sure whether Putin's got [00:09:22] enough by the way and we're doing our best to seize [00:09:26] it as as the UK so yeah it's really odd to be a different [00:09:29] side of this debate to uh a country we often call our greatest [00:09:33] ally and I would call that into question here yeah what do you think [00:09:36] Andrew well as I said earlier [00:09:40] the decision about who is the president president of Ukraine is down to the people of [00:09:44] Ukraine to make that decision, it's not for any other country [00:09:48] to interfere in that democratic choice the Ukrainian [00:09:51] people. I think [00:09:53] that there is lot of concern that the war in [00:09:57] Ukraine hasn't ended, it's going on and on, this [00:10:00] is a war that has to end because the suffering the [00:10:04] Ukrainian people, and and the loss of life on the Russian side, I mean the [00:10:08] Russian people are being the Russian armed forces being used by Putin. [00:10:13] uh a war that should never have started, so [00:10:15] that there's losses on all sides, it's a tragedy for all people involved [00:10:19] in this, but at the end the day it's [00:10:23] up to the Ukrainian people to... making their own choice about about who they have as [00:10:27] president, there hasn't been an election in UK, it's going to be difficult when there's a war [00:10:31] going on, it's going to be hard, but at some point i think that there has to [00:10:35] be some sort of democratic mandate of either the existing president [00:10:39] or new one, nah you can't have one during a time of war, it's too much of time, depends how long [00:10:43] it goes on for, you can't go on forever without [00:10:45] you can go on for a quite a long time, but that it would be, it depends on the safety the people, i [00:10:49] think it'd be even more dangerous trying to rally people up to go to polling centers and [00:10:53] stuff like that, how are they? to get there, the the warfare has changed now, it's drone [00:10:57] warfare where these drones are just flying about, just executing people, [00:11:01] i don't think it would be realistic at all, and this winter is said to be the most dangerous [00:11:05] one so far, this will be the worst winter the entire [00:11:08] conflict, so you know your hearts go out to the Ukrainians actually bause it [00:11:12] is pitiful what's going on there, it's just awful, i don't know [00:11:16] how i would do that, but the thing is it it's weird because people go to visit Ukraine [00:11:20] and then they come back and then i think to myself, how how are you doing that a war, but [00:11:23] hey life has to carry? on now what about this uh story can be [00:11:27] set for an election at christmas we talked about it earlier we've [00:11:30] got a bit more time to to go into it now um she's put the [00:11:34] tory party on notice for a pre-christmas general [00:11:37] election and made growing speculation that Andy [00:11:41] Burnham will call a snap poll no [00:11:45] it's not i'm sorry i'm not convinced she's not in a good place [00:11:48] at the moment she did a great conference come on [00:11:52] the opinion polls all the opinion polls clearly show that the [00:11:56] conservatives would do far worse than they did in the [00:11:59] 2024 election, but she's doing okay, well she's personing [00:12:03] okay, you know, as I said earlier, [00:12:05] you know, there's nothing offensive particularly about Ken, I didn't like the way she carried on [00:12:09] at the conference, attacking reform UK in the way that she did, I know she [00:12:13] doesn't like reform UK, I understand that, but she's got to remember that Reform [00:12:17] UK only exists because the conservatives failed, and vast [00:12:20] numbers of previous conservative voters, they've lost [00:12:24] to... form UK because they weren't fully uh fulfilling the promises [00:12:28] they made at the last election and let the country down, so I [00:12:32] say bring it on, let's have an election, but to have [00:12:36] pact with the conservatives either, I mean you know you guys - it's not on the [00:12:40] table, we we're not looking for pact with the conservatives uh, what we want is a [00:12:44] strong majority government, we want Nigel Farage in number 10, we want to rescue the [00:12:47] country from diabolical mess the labour party's [00:12:51] uh rule in office and also years of conservative failure. so [00:12:55] yes, let's have an election, bring it on. i thought she did make a good [00:12:59] speech in her the conference, and i think it's [00:13:02] particularly powerful when she talked about her children, the kind of world she wanted a children to grow [00:13:06] up in, i thought that, and and the emotion was clearly there, that was clearly [00:13:10] authentic, where i think she should have changed [00:13:14] her tone slightly was an earlier interview when she talked about [00:13:17] reform, [00:13:18] you know not being our kind of people, that that's [00:13:21] that's not okay to put it and i think there's a certain level of [00:13:25] weakness when you're having to acknowledge reform at all, whereas burnan went through his speech, didn't talk about [00:13:29] anybody else, just laid out his vision, and he made a good speech in [00:13:33] general for her base, for the people she's trying to f, i wasn't personally [00:13:36] persuaded by it, but uh, she's got i would argue the uni party the tories in [00:13:40] reform, because if you look at the policies that's where the overlap is the greatest and kemy's job is to try [00:13:44] and create gap there uh so [00:13:46] it makes sense that she's going after maybe [00:13:49] she did create gap [00:13:50] yeah she did and um look you have to be ready if an election comes you have to have your [00:13:54] candidates in place what the tories are doing at the moment um, but no, you're perfectly right [00:13:57] Andrew, that if you look at the polling, the tories haven't moved if you look at the poll of poll since this time [00:14:01] last year and kemmy still net negative, so i think the whole kemy comeback stuff is [00:14:05] west, can you imagine though if there is an election by [00:14:09] around about christmas time, some of those candidates haven't been chosen yet [00:14:13] by the conservative party, they will only have matter of [00:14:16] weeks to campaign, that's an incredibly difficult thing to do, [00:14:20] what about reform UK, mean if if the touries are going to struggle, reform UK [00:14:24] are going to be be padding, "you're no, [00:14:26] to we going we're organized, we got a plan, we we're organized, we know where [00:14:30] we're heading, and I think that for Formu K to win, it will be [00:14:33] because the country's so desperate for for change, so desperate [00:14:37] for new leadership to rescue the country from the calamity of what we've got at the [00:14:41] moment, the only way someone will vote is when they're desperate for reform, I think people are getting desperate, [00:14:45] they're angry about the way the country has been let down, no, no, because they see [00:14:49] reform as something different, we're not part the old political [00:14:52] establishment, we want to do things different." well you are sort [00:14:56] of because you were part of it, nigel was part of it, soella Bravman was part [00:15:00] of it, lot generic was part of it, lot of people were at the [00:15:04] top table of reform were part the previous, i think you'll find that i was never part [00:15:08] of previous conservative governments, i was rebellious back bencher [00:15:12] voting against things and and actually arguing against my own party [00:15:15] regularly, look we have to be a political party to be members of [00:15:19] parliament, be able to have a voice and to argue things we believe in, but the [00:15:23] conservative party 'every election I stood in, we promised all these [00:15:27] things, particularly on immigration, but a whole range of other things as well, and we [00:15:31] let the country down over and over and over again. I remember in [00:15:35] 2015 one of our major platforms'. was to repeal the human rights [00:15:38] act, do you remember that under David Cameron? did we? of course we didn't, so [00:15:42] so many things that we should have done, we didn't do, because that's why people have fed [00:15:46] up, but you were too busy electioneering and ego and changing [00:15:50] leaders and the problem is that i feel if they're [00:15:54] having another election now, it feels like they're sort of making the same mistakes [00:15:58] that the tory party made, mean even changing the leader, [00:16:00] look i didn't really like kissman, he had to go buse, he was useless and [00:16:04] that's sorry to say that, but i would have liked to have seen effectively, I didn't [00:16:08] support him, I didn't vote for him, but he was useless, he had to go, there we are now talking [00:16:12] about having early general election, here we are, not really addressing the [00:16:15] policies, the thing that the the mess that the country is in, it's all going to be put [00:16:19] on hold again for another election of sorts and I'm sick of it, [00:16:23] it is, but for long-term game, because what you need is somebody who can spend five or [00:16:27] 10 years fixing the country, nobody from any party can do it in two or [00:16:31] three years, so you need someone who has both the mandate, but also the the the [00:16:35] political backing to do it from the country, they need... that capital, but then you're admitting that the [00:16:39] previous mandate is failing and you actually [00:16:41] need to change it, you've changed the leader, only been two years, [00:16:45] yeah, we can't follow the old manifesto really, because yeah, exactly, that's that's part the [00:16:49] problem, so because it was a failure, well no, not because there's a different leader coming who [00:16:53] didn't write it, so you got to be able to do what you want to do as manifesto is definitely [00:16:57] failing, [00:16:57] i don't think so at all, so what failed was that - here starma [00:17:01] lost the confidence the people around him and the country, well he's breach part the [00:17:05] manifesto as well, so for example the... was not going to be any raises national [00:17:09] insurance okay now they said that they didn't split national insurance into employer or [00:17:13] employee then suddenly there was a different employer and then they [00:17:16] it's like you're breaching a manifesto already yeah look we can nit pick over [00:17:20] that raise national insurance as a [00:17:23] manifestom people what i'm saying is [00:17:27] trusting uh parties and you and voting for people having general elections [00:17:31] constantly this is where we are with the debate and if if we have [00:17:35] early general election my thoughts that we are, we're not focusing on [00:17:39] the problems the country again, again it's all about ego, and here we go again, another [00:17:43] six, eight weeks, we have long it takes to find a leader and then he's going to start with something [00:17:47] else, and [00:17:48] you now, the education system may change it's not going to be a, b, c, d, it's going to be one, two, [00:17:51] th, then it's going to be just, it's it's it's just too much, no one could keep up with any of [00:17:55] it, sebastian, you mentioned though, you'd need 10 years to um, deal [00:17:59] with some these problems, and you probably do, some the problems now in this country [00:18:03] are so profound, it may take 10 years, but are [00:18:07] you... thinking that Andy Burnham will get second term [00:18:11] with majority of five years? I hope so. Yeah, but [00:18:15] I I don't understand [00:18:15] that what's underlying your question that you think he might lose or that? I don't think anyone's going to [00:18:19] get majority at the next. Well that's the tricky thing isn't it? That is the really tricky [00:18:23] thing and that's why I mean [00:18:25] that the polls are going in the right direction. We're seeing labor uh build a [00:18:28] convincing lead and we're in this bizarre system where you have now so many parties that [00:18:32] are polling between 15 and 25 that you can't go with the [00:18:36] usual I need to. 20 point majority that usually would rely a two-party system, so the [00:18:40] way of reading the polls has kind of changed as well, no cuz they're all in the dead zone, like [00:18:44] 20% is like the dead zone, yeah, but everybody's kind [00:18:48] of jostling around, they're all doing that, but if you got four four [00:18:52] parties there, that's a very different, that Andy Burnham is going to be [00:18:55] able to bring in and direct policy [00:18:59] over the next 10 years, how is that going to happen, well you win [00:19:02] majority, and you think that that will happen, I hope it will [00:19:06] happen, It's not the same thing, but I don't know, I don't make predictions because I'm [00:19:10] always wrong, what I think is changed is that lot of people at the moment are giving Andy [00:19:14] Burnham fair wind, they're giving him a chance, okay, so [00:19:17] they they're not anti-human opinion pulls, equally so what's happening [00:19:21] is lot of people will not say they're going to vote reform, they like [00:19:25] the Brexit referendum, yeah, exactly, tons of [00:19:29] people in in the referendum would not say they were going to vote to leave, but on [00:19:33] the day they trooped out in huge numbers and vote, I think there's a... [00:19:37] silent vote in this country, really frustrated and [00:19:41] angry people who see this country spiraling [00:19:45] down, and I think reforms support is [00:19:48] vastly bigger than the opinion poles are reflecting, so how do [00:19:51] you see that tallying with your general kind of tailing off bause if you look at the pollen poles you're not, [00:19:55] you've come a long way from the heights you, well there's been there's been a few percentage points drop [00:19:59] because [00:19:59] of restore, that didn't exist year ago, so they've taken few points away [00:20:03] clearly, unfortunately that's happened, then you have a situation where... [00:20:08] lot of people in labor facing areas who were voting reform [00:20:12] makerfield's an example of that who decide that actually we're going to [00:20:16] give Burnam a fair chance so you know inevitably reform has [00:20:19] gone down a little bit but not vastly actually if you look at [00:20:23] it [00:20:23] we we're still going around 23 24 25 I think with [00:20:27] labor this bounce where labor is only like 27 28 I don't think it's vast I [00:20:31] think things could change very quickly and I do think that come the [00:20:35] election people are going to be so desperate [00:20:37] for ch'. i think you'll see reform UK do extremely well [00:20:41] and [00:20:41] i and i think that will be the next [00:20:45] majority hope so, i think it's possible, but [00:20:49] i think that... 'clearly you nothing certain, but I believe we [00:20:53] can, [00:20:54] and I we're going to go all out and fight to get that majority, yeah, but you [00:20:57] have [00:20:58] got a problem with some of your councils, haven't you, reform does have a problem, I think [00:21:01] everyone has problems with their councils, counsils even [00:21:05] labor have problem with councils, I don't know what's going on with the councils, but they seem to be wanting more and [00:21:09] more money all the time, the weird thing is doing very much, [00:21:13] there's holes everywhere, all right, listen, I've got to move on, but coming up, return of [00:21:17] public executions, will it be disaster if Britain'? rejoins the [00:21:20] EU, we'll be discussing that next. This is Alex Armstrong [00:21:24] tonight, late [00:21:25] edition. [00:21:34] I'm Michael Portillo, this is GB News, the people's channel, [00:21:38] Britain's news [00:21:39] channel. 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[00:24:50] That is also uh let's have look at the front cover the Sunday Express EU [00:24:54] would plunder Britain if Brexit reversed and the [00:24:57] Sunday times it's time to go Trump tells Zelensky a [00:25:01] bitter diesel row right let's get the thoughts of my [00:25:05] panel um let's start with the observer public [00:25:08] execution this of course is what's going on um in [00:25:11] America um this uh guy he was initially in the [00:25:15] military military then went back to his own military base and then gun [00:25:19] down uh and killed 13 of - those on the base and [00:25:23] injured uh many more, he is going to be um he's going to be [00:25:27] executed by firing squad at Fortworth and they are talking about live streaming it [00:25:31] which is going to be, but I thought there was social media networks that wouldn't allow live [00:25:35] streaming of an execution somewhere yeah but this is it could be live streaming [00:25:38] only on Trump's social media or [00:25:42] just on the US government website, maybe they control their own website could do that [00:25:46] yeah yeah how horrible that it's revolting imagine ' [00:25:50] 'm I don't like it at all, look, I, I, I see many movies where people [00:25:54] are gotten down, executed [00:25:55] and I don't like that either, they're not real, no, they're not, they're not real, but the movies and [00:25:59] it's this, you're watching it, so you get a sense of' from all of [00:26:03] that [00:26:03] and I think a lot of people are detached and don't really feel [00:26:07] anything when they see that bause there's so much violence, I mean you said about the morning the [00:26:11] tiger that man in the zoo already that's online, people were filming it [00:26:15] there and then and then they thought to post it and [00:26:19] people don't really they'll act all oh that's terrible that's terrible but oh [00:26:23] let's have look [00:26:24] at that [00:26:24] what is that the moly the guy that's how people will do that you know what it's [00:26:28] like that's the reality isn't it mean andrew you say you won't watch it [00:26:32] but watch it no so look, these things pop up don't they? find all kinds [00:26:35] of strange things pop up, so they [00:26:39] do, but do I want to watch something? no, I don't. I think it's [00:26:43] pretty distasteful. I don't disagree with the [00:26:47] principle that there should be a just punishment for [00:26:50] for for vial crimes, where someone has been a mass murder or [00:26:54] done something so horrendous, so capital punishment, [00:26:58] I believe that there's certain cases where it is justified, but I don't believe it should [00:27:02] be. live stream should be, if anyone's going to be put to death, it should be done [00:27:05] uh in prison privately, I don't see why it should [00:27:09] uh be shown on on the internet, I think [00:27:13] that's pretty should be advised not to reshare it, you know, but then again [00:27:17] nobody listens to any of that, do they, but then you can see who's you can see who's [00:27:20] actively looking at it and who's actively resharing it, if it's on someone's feet, I mean [00:27:24] i agree with the death penalty in some [00:27:27] instances, one or two instances, that's you know, and if and [00:27:31] America has it so... they can do this, but actually live [00:27:34] streaming and it's like sort of, it shouldn't, yeah, it shouldn't be [00:27:38] entertainment, but you say that, but there are so many [00:27:41] movies that are just that, you know what i mean, like we can [00:27:45] be all moral about it, it's not real though is it, yeah, but the movies [00:27:49] aren't real, but [00:27:51] people, it what it does, it desensitizes you from the real thing, so it doesn't make any [00:27:55] difference where it's real or not, you're still watching something that is portraying itself as real, [00:27:59] i don't think so, there's a big big difference if you're watching someone being [00:28:02] killed who is really being killed and never coming back and the're [00:28:05] not an actor uh that changes you, there's horrendous stuff out there [00:28:09] that you see and you will never unseen, it will hunt you till the end of your days and i [00:28:13] don't want anyone to have that forced on them and the fact that the government in the US doing that forcing on you, [00:28:17] they're doing it, but you don't have to look [00:28:19] at it, well it's it's readily available online, but they're not forcing you to watch it, okay you're right, [00:28:23] no one's forcing you to watch it, but the fact that it's been made so readily available by a government that people should [00:28:27] have faith in is just [00:28:30] unimal, i don't think that makes me lose faith in the government because what this man did was [00:28:33] revolting disgraceful and he's getting back what he did pretty much put them in [00:28:37] prison for life leave them there and i'm happy with him being [00:28:41] executed he should why should we be taking people's [00:28:44] lives i agree with the death penalty should states be allowed to kill their own cit on this particular [00:28:48] occasion i think it's perfectly acceptable and the americans have that on [00:28:51] the within their [00:28:53] you know within their covenant within their law so that's and we used to have it actually we [00:28:57] only fully got i think it was 1997 or something [00:29:01] i think it was where the... last one was in 1965 i think [00:29:05] and then we actually got rid of capital punishment in 1980 [00:29:09] 1993 or something like that, [00:29:10] but it was quite recent where we, i don't think it's as recent as [00:29:14] 1993, it was quite recent, you can check it up, look it up, who was it that was no was [00:29:18] executed, but [00:29:19] the act it from law and everything 1998 actually it [00:29:23] was where that law was removed, so yeah so [00:29:26] what i mean, but i'm i'm all for this guy being executed in the way he's being [00:29:30] executed, i think what you're thinking of is is reason it was still legal was arson [00:29:34] a naval doct that's right yes that's true [00:29:37] so it was that it was still on the statue book for certain things [00:29:40] but now it's i think being with the ECHR and the human rights [00:29:44] act that effectively ruled out capital punishment in this country [00:29:48] thankfully well i don't think it's thankful i think some people deserve it and they should be and i [00:29:52] think especially if you know exactly who they are and they've done it i'm afraid but that's the [00:29:56] problem you get gross miscarrages of justice don't well not in the case of someone like axel [00:30:00] cabana no but you think about people like the for people who were you actually [00:30:03] know in the case of someone like [00:30:07] axel we do know but there are many people for life [00:30:10] no I'm [00:30:10] not talking I'm not talking about this people I'm being specifically where [00:30:14] where you know that it's clearly that person where you know literally you've seen it there's [00:30:18] witnesses we're all there we've seen it then I think it could be on the table for [00:30:22] murderers like that but not for anybody else where there's any [00:30:25] anything where it could it might be or might not so you're comfortable with the [00:30:28] government and the judicial system making decisions on who we should [00:30:32] kill yeah, as long as as long [00:30:34] as the jewery will actually decide that it wouldn't be the government, you got judge and jury, [00:30:37] you got judges and jewies decides, what happens the [00:30:41] government put it within the law that it can be utilized as a punishment, [00:30:44] it is down it is decided by a judge and the [00:30:48] judges in this country to decide, no the juries don't decide on [00:30:52] sentences, they decide on guts yeah but they'll be part the whole process of [00:30:56] whether the that person is guilty so the whole process is not just but it's the [00:30:59] judge who decides but the whole process is not just I understand that, but there you go, that's [00:31:03] what I'm saying, but yeah, I'm happy with it, so you're happy for judges to make decisions on that, the final [00:31:07] decision, of course we need judges make on whether people live or whether people die, yeah, in the cases [00:31:11] of people like Axel Kabana and people, yes, [00:31:15] did objection i have [00:31:15] no fear of telling you that and i'll repeatedly say [00:31:17] have you seen the headline on the sun here? well you [00:31:19] yeah what say about [00:31:20] an Widdican? if if cops did their job and would still be [00:31:24] alive? that's what Nigel Farage is saying in his interview so the well that's an active [00:31:28] case at the moment so we'll leave that one there but we will come back to that the cops are not doing [00:31:32] their job well that's an active case right now so we'll leave that there only because it's active but as soon as it [00:31:36] isn't then you know that we'll be talking about that all right what what else should we look at [00:31:40] uh we've had this front cover how about the EU Blunder front cover the Sunday [00:31:43] Express ' [00:31:45] now this is EU would plunder Britain if Brexit will [00:31:48] reverse, so this is - Andy Burnham who obviously has been saying that in his [00:31:52] lifetime he would like to see us return um to uh the [00:31:56] EU's clutches, even though it was democratic vote to get out there and we [00:32:00] haven't really given it a proper try and be nice if they actually had a will to make [00:32:04] sure that it was executed properly, but anyway Andy Burnham has [00:32:07] been um warned that overturning Brexit will [00:32:11] not only allow the European Union to plunder Britain. would [00:32:15] also be a direct betrayal of his uh his [00:32:19] voters in makerfield, so when he was in makerfield and going for that post buse he wanted to [00:32:23] be mp, they he changed his narrative about his [00:32:27] positioning within um about the EU, so he wasn't, he was a bit [00:32:31] vager, he wasn't more specific and people voted, [00:32:33] I think trusting that he would not return to this [00:32:37] conversation, and he's already on it, I don't understand the obsession with [00:32:40] this, the European Union, we have a free trade deal with the [00:32:44] European Union. at the moment, our trade with Europe has [00:32:47] increased since we left the European Union, hasn't [00:32:50] decreased, okay, there's been some difficulties because the [00:32:54] EU have made it difficult, but in reality we don't need to [00:32:58] be in the EU to trade with Europe, yet the EU is [00:33:02] plunging downwards, the the economies of Germany and France and [00:33:06] Italy and others have actually plunged further than our own, and if we [00:33:10] were to go back into the EU, that means we've got to accept free movement, it [00:33:14] means we'd have to sign up to the single currency, it means we'd have to pay [00:33:17] something between 30 and 40 billion a year to the European [00:33:21] Union, and the British people voted the biggest referendum, the biggest [00:33:25] vote, democratic vote ever, not to be part of a political union [00:33:29] with Europe, so the idea that an unelected prime minister [00:33:33] can come into office and start telling us we should all go back to the European Union [00:33:37] is completely unacceptable, the problem is there Andrew is that you're cherry [00:33:41] picking countries if we're going to make the argument about growth within the EU, because the are countries [00:33:45] Poland whose growth is far outstripping what's going on in Britain and the reality is if [00:33:49] you speak to any small business owner who used to do business and sell into the European [00:33:52] markets it is now much more bureaucratic it's harder you've got [00:33:55] to fill in the for forms it's more expensive and many them you see it yourself when you go on [00:33:59] websites you try to order and you say we don't deliver to the EU [00:34:02] anymore they are closing off those market some of those businesses have found new [00:34:06] markets elsewhere and whilst the EU is our closest neighbor and I [00:34:10] accept that some of those businesses are finding markets worth where they may not have [00:34:14] considered and that's a good. thing and we can all adapt, but [00:34:17] what i am disappointed with with regard to the brexit thing is that red tape [00:34:20] that they could have removed, they haven't, [00:34:22] and that is disappointing, i don't believe that enough has been done to try and [00:34:26] see if Brexit would could have been more of success, because right now i don't think they're [00:34:30] doing, but just on that point of markets, if you are business in the UK and you're selling i don't [00:34:34] know trinkets into the EU, you now can't do it and so you're looking [00:34:38] elsewhere, you're not going to sell those trinkets to america because nobody's going to buy, they're not going to pay the shipping on [00:34:42] it, you want to go to your nearest where it's easy to send those things. the answer [00:34:45] issues, can I say [00:34:48] that we're at five to midnight here in this country with with our [00:34:52] economy, we're a very, very difficult place and we have [00:34:56] to get that sorted out, we have to find some way of building [00:35:00] growth in very difficult circumstances when we've got [00:35:03] particular societal problems and we face external [00:35:07] security threats at the same time, rejoining [00:35:11] the EU, aside from all the arguments whether you're... whether [00:35:15] you're con is huge distraction from the work, it's [00:35:19] a huge opportunity, because if you're a small business, you're the backbone of this [00:35:23] country, the majority of businesses are small businesses, if they can then trade with our nearest [00:35:27] neighbors tariff- free, that is wonderful, [00:35:29] you can make so much money, it will take us years and years and [00:35:33] it's such a complicated process that we don't have the bandwidth to [00:35:37] deal with it and all the other problem, we have a trade agreement with the European [00:35:41] Union, our trade with European Union has increased. since we [00:35:45] left, it hasn't like plummeted, I mean I remember all the project there and what we were [00:35:49] told then everything would be disaster, that never happened, the city of London is [00:35:53] growing, in fact the city of London doesn't want now to adopt EU [00:35:57] regulations buse doing far better outside and other sectors as well as saying, well [00:36:01] actually we're doing rather well now, so why on earth would we [00:36:05] want to tie ourselves to the millstone of Brussels [00:36:08] control, it would be a complete calamity, because if you look at the projections from [00:36:12] economists on the amount of growth we lost out on, It's 4 [00:36:15] f si upwards percent may be looking in the past, we need to look to the [00:36:18] future, is global trade, that's where we [00:36:22] need to go, starting with our nearest neighbors, we have a free trade agreement with them at the moment, [00:36:26] so what are you asking for? for i'm asking for tariff- free trades [00:36:30] um where you can do as we did before, you can buy and sell into these markets, you [00:36:34] can go and live there, you can go and work there, all these things which [00:36:38] allow for a fluid economy that we have lost out on, so I [00:36:41] think that you are driven by ideology [00:36:45] rather than common sense here, this logical [00:36:48] argument, [00:36:52] we do already, it's expensive, small businesses are stoping [00:36:55] doing it, thank you, all right? 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[00:40:27] Thanks for joining us on GB News, Britain's news [00:40:30] channel, [00:40:39] welcome back to Alex Armstrong tonight, late edition with me Anna Quier, now [00:40:43] reform UK would impose tariffs on countries that refuse [00:40:47] to accept the return of migrants under sweeping immigration plans expected to be [00:40:51] announced this week. Nigel Farage's party intends to impose [00:40:55] visa bans for people who legally want. to visit the UK [00:40:58] from Pakistan, Afghanistan, Syria, [00:41:01] Eritrea, Sudan or Somalia until the countries agreed to [00:41:05] take back illegal migrants and foreign criminals in the UK. Let's see, [00:41:09] let's get the thoughts of my panel. Journalist and broadcaster Linda Dubai, reform [00:41:13] UKMP, Andrew Rosendale, and former labor counselor Sebastian [00:41:16] Salic. Well, I welcome to you Andrew, because it is your party that's [00:41:20] suggesting it. Yeah, about time [00:41:24] too, you're going to have a government actually going to deal with this. so [00:41:28] illegal uh immigrants, asylum seekers coming here that are not [00:41:32] genuine, they will have to go back, and criminals in prisons [00:41:36] will have to go back to their country of origin, if the country of origin refuses... [00:41:40] take them, we will remove the right of visas for those [00:41:44] citizens and we will introduce tariffs against those countries, we will [00:41:47] essentially use every possible foreign [00:41:51] policy lever to make these countries take these people [00:41:55] back, because we don't want them in our country, they shouldn't be [00:41:59] here uh, they've committed crimes or they here illegally, so we need to [00:42:03] get them out of our country, and that is what reform UK government would do, that they [00:42:06] failed the asylum process, and not that they've come over dinky, that they've [00:42:10] failed pr [00:42:11] so would [00:42:11] it be that if you've [00:42:12] come here anyone that comes here by dingy is entering this country illegally and they will be [00:42:15] immediately deported, no question about [00:42:18] that and that would be encompassed in this whole deal, mean i don't you might not know the full [00:42:21] detail, but is that well it's only just come through to me actually, that's why i'm saying i'm just [00:42:25] checking we are not going to take a soft line [00:42:29] any longer, tory and labour governments have been too soft for too long and [00:42:33] our country suffered because of it we're going to tackle this problem effectively [00:42:37] and those countries that won't cooperate they will lose the... rights to have [00:42:41] visas for their own citizens and we will introduce tariffs and we'll use [00:42:44] every possible lever to ensure [00:42:46] they take these people back. is there any portion of that that you would agree with? the [00:42:50] only portion and it's really a small part I'm afraid um is the bit where we [00:42:53] have to deal with the uh people who fail the [00:42:57] asylum system who come out and have their claims rejected. we have to find a way to deal with [00:43:01] that uh in maybe third countries, but we have to be incredibly careful about who we send [00:43:05] back. so for example what I'd be curious about on this is if somebody is in danger of [00:43:09] uh loss of life, for being sent back, would you force that? well it [00:43:13] be, would it under your policy? so of course you're going to look at [00:43:16] each individual case, if there is a serious threat to someone's [00:43:20] life, there'd have to be some consideration of of that, but the principle [00:43:24] will be, you come here illegally, you will be deported back to your country of [00:43:28] origin, and those countries will be made to take these people back, they're [00:43:31] not our responsibility, so they will be made to go back to the country [00:43:35] from which they came, so you wouldn't have any asylum system whatsoever [00:43:39] by that? 'there would always be a place for genuine [00:43:43] refugees like the Ukrainians who are fleeing conflict, of [00:43:47] course we welcome those people into our country, the [00:43:51] asylum system is being utterly abused and the [00:43:54] only way this is going to be dealt with is deterrent, the deterrent will be you come here [00:43:58] you won't be able to stay [00:43:59] so right now and then they'll be sent back, but can I just ask because that's a long list and that's not [00:44:03] no, [00:44:04] I'm really interested to know because you're saying basically going to get rid the I'm asking you, [00:44:07] no so I'm asking you with that policy'. any part of it that you would [00:44:11] accept, so for example the [00:44:13] the the visa bans on people, if you've got loads of people coming to this country [00:44:16] illegally or people who or they won't accept criminals, the foreign criminals after [00:44:20] they've served the sentence, you're sending them back uh, would you accept any of [00:44:24] that so you'd ban visas in any way? well, it's hard for me to answer bause I'm still trying to learn what the point [00:44:28] is, yeah, but just just out of what we know, so we we don't know loads, but what we do know, this [00:44:32] is just on the front cover the paper so we can't, we don't have much more detail, yeah, but I'm trying to learn from [00:44:36] Andrew [00:44:36] what exactly would happen, so just just to be clear, you're saying that you would... largely dismantle the [00:44:40] asylum system at all, we're talking about people that are [00:44:44] here illegally or people that are in [00:44:47] prison, we want to deport, so we are we are saying that [00:44:51] those people, anyone that enters this country legally a dingy, [00:44:55] anyone that's in prison, foreign criminals in prison, anyone that's entered [00:44:59] this country illegally needs to be returned to their country, why is that [00:45:03] dism system because that's basically the only way you can claim asylum in this [00:45:06] country, we have we have minimal. [00:45:15] excuse me, somebody else needs to speak now, so I think that in in the [00:45:19] main this seems to be fairly logical and [00:45:22] rational policy in the main um, but it's also [00:45:26] open to legal challenges, so the difficulty will be [00:45:30] in actually implementing it, I suspect, but you've got to remember you, reform is [00:45:34] in opposition now, so it's not actually going to happen is it, not for quite [00:45:38] some time, you know it's... It's announced as well, this is how we're going to deal [00:45:42] with it, yeah, I still think may, but there we are, but I [00:45:46] can answer your point, Linda, he said about legal challenges, yeah, so I [00:45:50] can tell you now that reform UK government in the House of Commons, [00:45:54] we will sit for six days a week, we will sit day until late at [00:45:57] night, every day till late at night, except Sundays, have one day off to [00:46:01] repeal all this legislation suchas the human rights act [00:46:05] and the e control with the ECHR to ensure that [00:46:09] we get complete control of our laws again so we can implement these [00:46:13] policies what about legal challenges in this no linda i have to go bause for time [00:46:16] reasons go as well leave the timer is coming up final look at [00:46:20] tomorrow's front pages this is alex armstrong tonight [00:46:23] edition [00:46:34] i'm michael portillo this is gb news the people's channel [00:46:38] britain's news channel [00:46:42] From cold mornings to warm family brunches, from football [00:46:46] to tennis in the car, in the kitchen. 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[00:49:10] sorry, I'm sorry, but this is absolutely [00:49:14] disrespectful. sorry, nana, thank you very much, that's [00:49:18] better. all right, let's get back to the business, reform would impose tarifs [00:49:22] on'. is that refused to accept and the return of [00:49:25] illegal under sweeping changes of migrants, under sweeping [00:49:29] immigration plans, expected to be announced this week, so I look [00:49:32] forward to hearing the detail [00:49:34] on this, we did try and get stuck into [00:49:37] the detail, but sadly we we couldn't, but what more do we know about this? Andrew, [00:49:41] you're uh reform counselor, in the driving seat, um, you're in the driving [00:49:44] seat for this one, what more do [00:49:47] you know about it or what more can you tell us, you're still reading, well I've got a briefing just [00:49:51] sent though, I'm trying to... um trying to uh pry [00:49:54] it to to explain what we would do, but on Linda's point, [00:49:58] so reform would be committed to leaving the European convention on human [00:50:02] rights derogating from the 1951 refugee [00:50:05] convention and passing the [00:50:09] illegal migration mass deportation act, so we would [00:50:13] put in place the legal structure in order to make this [00:50:16] possible, at the moment lots of things aren't possible as we know [00:50:20] the Rwanda wasn't possible bef. because we're tied up with all [00:50:24] these legal rang legal wrangling that goes on because the ECHR, the [00:50:28] human rights act etc. we're going to sweep all of that away so we can [00:50:32] actually get back control of our country, people that are here [00:50:35] illegally, people that are committing criminal offenses, people that have [00:50:39] come to this country under false pretences, I'm afraid it's time for [00:50:43] them to leave, the British people want this policy to be implemented, [00:50:46] conservatives never had the backbone to do it, labor definitely won't do it, the only [00:50:50] party it's going to do it is reform UK. "and everyone watching this should be chilled to [00:50:54] hear that, because if you're taking away the European convention on human rights, you're taking [00:50:58] away the human rights of people living in this country, you never know when you need to rely on them, [00:51:02] and you will not have that when you most certainly not, we had human rights long [00:51:06] before the ECHR was founded, we founded human [00:51:10] rights from the common law and the magnacarter onwards, so this [00:51:13] country is a proud upholder of human rights, we don't get those human rights in [00:51:17] Europe, we invented these human rights and we will uphold them, but [00:51:21] we're not going to do. is allow foreign judges in Strasburg to [00:51:25] overrull British laws that our own elected parliament [00:51:28] have decided to implement based a democratic election. You may say that, but [00:51:32] people have have um they are owed [00:51:36] that right if they don't get what they need in the UK to take that case further on, because [00:51:40] it's very dangerous not to give them that right. We also lots of people [00:51:43] watching [00:51:44] here will have had relatives to fought in World War II who secured that victory and [00:51:48] those human rights were enshrined based on that victory, so [00:51:51] it's... sad indictment on there, I just want to ask [00:51:55] Andrew, because I'm sort of reading myself into this now as well, [00:51:59] um, reform also wants to ban airlines from [00:52:02] British airspace and C from [00:52:05] transit for those countries that do not apply comply [00:52:09] with that's another lever to use, well it's very difficult to do it, [00:52:13] well no, look, if a country, I'm not going to name a country here [00:52:17] because it's not fair to do so, but we know some the countries where [00:52:21] people are coming into this country and it's being abused, we will use every [00:52:25] possible lever, diplomatic, foreign policy lever, [00:52:29] economic leaver uh to prevent these illegal people [00:52:33] from coming into this country and... [00:52:36] to return, well you can restrict airlines of course you can, of course you can, you can restrict a [00:52:40] particular airline from coming via the United Kingdom if that [00:52:44] country is not cooperating with the UK government in making sure these people [00:52:48] leave our shores. all right, well I can't wait to see that because that sounds quite [00:52:51] complex, but having said that, at least somebody's thinking on the right tracks of [00:52:55] possibly the British public bause we're sick and tired of all [00:52:58] all that's going on. all right, thank you very much, my brilliant panel [00:53:02] broadcaster and journalist. form [00:53:05] UK MP Andre Rossendle and former labor counter Sebastian [00:53:08] Cellic and as of thank you to you for your company that's all we've got time for up [00:53:12] next it's the late show live hosted by the one and only Ben [00:53:16] Leo Nan thank you very much I am back [00:53:20] from San Francisco not a great place I'm back in the beautiful climbs of Washington [00:53:24] DC to be with you the viewers and listeners tonight breaking news - [00:53:27] Mauritius is threatening the UK with legal action if we [00:53:31] don't do the chake of surrender remember 40 billion quid uh to your [00:53:35] privilege of handing over sovereign british territory, they're threatening international courts if we [00:53:39] don't comply. what do you think i say about that? i say do one, all that and more [00:53:43] after the break. i'll see you [00:53:44] there. 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