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[00:00:00] Story of
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[00:00:23] of Good evening, it's 6 o'clock,
[00:00:27] I'm Katie Bowen in the
[00:00:28] of GB News room. Donald Trump has announced an energy cease fire in
[00:00:32] the war between Ukraine and Russia, meaning both countries have agreed
[00:00:36] to hold strikes on
[00:00:38] a all energy infrastructure, including oil refineries. It's as
[00:00:41] defense secretary were streating said earlier that the UK stands with
[00:00:45] president Zelensky following Donald Trump's calls for him to go after
[00:00:49] he criticized the US diesel deal with Russia. The
[00:00:53] Ukrainian president warned that new deal to release millions of tons of
[00:00:57] Russian diesel into the US would provide more. go with money to
[00:01:01] continue its war on Ukraine. Defense Secretary Wieting told
[00:01:04] GB News that Britain
[00:01:06] of doesn't of agree with the deal. It's not the first time
[00:01:10] we've seen a disagreement between Washington and Keith, between President Trump and
[00:01:13] President
[00:01:14] of Zelenski, and in these situations, it's our responsibility to try and bring our
[00:01:18] friends back together.
[00:01:20] of Uh, we we do stand full square with
[00:01:22] of Ukraine. We don't support the US decision on on diesel. Uh,
[00:01:26] and as for President Zelensky, I just say two things, firstly,
[00:01:30] "It is for Ukraine to choose their leadership, not for anyone
[00:01:33] else. And secondly, I mean, I've had the the privilege of meeting President
[00:01:38] of
[00:01:38] of Zelenski. I think Ukraine is fortunate to have had someone of that
[00:01:41] courage. Elsewhere, Yemen's hooties have warned
[00:01:45] of airlines and
[00:01:46] of passengers against using Saudi airports and airspace
[00:01:49] of after of deadly attack on the international airport in Riyad. 12
[00:01:53] people were killed and
[00:01:54] of more than 300
[00:01:55] of injured, of including a US national, with Donald Trump now
[00:01:59] of considering..." Saudi strikes on the hooties. Mr. Trump
[00:02:03] spoke to reporters last night and gave his
[00:02:06] of reaction. I think it's
[00:02:08] terrible. Well, you're going
[00:02:10] of to find out, see, but I think
[00:02:12] of it's
[00:02:15] in terrible. Well, they're able to defend. Look, the saudis are good
[00:02:19] fighters, but I think the attack was terrible
[00:02:23] thing. Another news, the
[00:02:25] of pope will undergo surgery after doctors detected a small growth on his
[00:02:29] lung during. recent health check. 71-year-old pope Leo
[00:02:32] told pilgrims gathered in St. Peters Square for his weekly Sunday
[00:02:36] prayer that the growth
[00:02:38] of was well contained and caught at an early
[00:02:41] in stage. The Vatican press office said the pope's recovery from surgery is expected to
[00:02:45] take around a week. And Yorkshire Wildlife Park
[00:02:49] remained closed
[00:02:50] of today after man climbed into a
[00:02:51] in tiger enclosure and was fatally attacked by the animal. Emergency services
[00:02:55] were contacted after the man
[00:02:57] of entered the enclosure and was set upon by the Tiger. shortly after
[00:03:00] 1:30 yesterday afternoon. Despite the efforts of medical
[00:03:04] personnel, the man was pronounced dead at the scene and his family have since been
[00:03:07] informed. The park says the Tiger will not be euthanized following the
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[00:03:15] Those are your latest GB News headlines. Now it's time for the Camilla Tomon show recorded
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[00:03:42] of joining me now as the secretary of state for defense where
[00:03:45] streating, lovely to
[00:03:47] of see you this morning,
[00:03:47] a mr. streeting, on time bright as a button as ever,
[00:03:51] now
[00:03:52] of last time we spoke, you said this and hope you get to hear this
[00:03:55] clip, let's see if we can play it, so your predecessor
[00:03:59] John Healey res because the treasury didn't stump up enough defense spending, if John
[00:04:03] Healey
[00:04:04] of now as chancellor doesn't stump up enough defense spending, will you
[00:04:08] resign uh, absolutely, because I believe that we
[00:04:12] need to invest more in our defense, but I also know that the
[00:04:15] chancer and the
[00:04:16] of prime minister um share that commitment too, now I
[00:04:20] put you, I put this
[00:04:21] a to you, Mr. Streating, because you're not
[00:04:23] of going to get to 3% of
[00:04:24] of GDP, are you? In fact, the government's
[00:04:26] of own figures suggests you will only get to 2.7%.
[00:04:30] percent by the end of this parliament, so where's your
[00:04:33] P-45? well, last last
[00:04:37] time we had that exchange, we generated
[00:04:40] of between us a whole bunch of front
[00:04:42] of pagesuh threatening my resignation, which wasn't quite how I
[00:04:46] expected to get off to a great
[00:04:48] of start as defense secretary, but let me just reassure you and
[00:04:52] your viewers that this government is increasing
[00:04:55] defense spending, we've already seen it increasing at the highest sustainable.
[00:05:00] level since the end
[00:05:00] of the cold war, there will be more to do at the budget
[00:05:04] of and more to come at the spending review, so um, so
[00:05:07] hold off that
[00:05:09] of drafting that
[00:05:10] of p45 for me for now, camilla, will
[00:05:14] provide what we
[00:05:15] need to keep our country safe. well, hang a minute, two points on
[00:05:18] that. first of all, the prime minister himself said that you could now
[00:05:22] only get to 3% by 2035. he said that at
[00:05:26] PMQs and I was watching. so you've actually moved away
[00:05:30] from the 2030 target all together, which is why John Healey resigned, so
[00:05:34] on that basis you should probably also resign. second of all, we're now reading,
[00:05:38] according to the Times, that the defense spending review has been
[00:05:41] postponed. from next spring to next
[00:05:44] autumn, so I say two things on on each of those points, Camilla,
[00:05:48] firstly, the 3.5% of GDP
[00:05:52] commitment is a NATO commitment for 2035,
[00:05:56] what John Healey has committed to do is to set out the path to
[00:06:00] 3.5%, including when we will hit
[00:06:03] 3% in next year's spending review. Now, I saw the same
[00:06:07] reports that you did suggesting the spending review was delayed, I'm
[00:06:11] not sure how it can have been.
[00:06:12] or spring laid when the date has never been announced and won't be
[00:06:15] announced just yet, so I don't think
[00:06:20] characterized next John it going Healey's to choices be in that way, those and you're going to hear
[00:06:24] a lot from government ministers on this in the next few weeks head the
[00:06:27] budget, those are choices for the chancellor to make, and given
[00:06:31] I'm asking quite a lot the chancellor, I know where my bread's buttered and I'm not going to get
[00:06:35] ahead of him by suggesting when he should hold his spending review, can
[00:06:39] I just pick you up on something though, when uh Andy Burnham appeared? of his very
[00:06:43] early PMQs, he did say that the
[00:06:46] 3% commitment, not 3.5, 3% was
[00:06:50] only going to be met by 2035, not 2030, he
[00:06:54] said that himself, so you're not getting to 3.5% by
[00:06:58] 2035 if you're only getting to 3% by then,
[00:07:02] it's is 3.5% in 2035, that
[00:07:06] is the position the prime minister, it's not
[00:07:09] in terms of in terms of 20. the chancellor
[00:07:13] will set out the path to 3 and a half percent
[00:07:17] including the buse that's got to be a credible path so that
[00:07:20] include when we get to 3% at the spending review and just to be
[00:07:24] clear with your viewers as to why that is um that when the
[00:07:28] chancellor makes spending commitments he also needs to show where the money is coming from
[00:07:32] and if he makes a pledge a commitment on
[00:07:35] 3% without showing where the money comes
[00:07:38] from all that happens is the market pricing that
[00:07:42] risk, borrowing costs go up and the one in 10
[00:07:46] pounds that we are already spending of taxpayers money on just
[00:07:50] on servicing debt interest that becomes more expensive and makes the job
[00:07:54] on defense spending and everything else harder, so
[00:07:56] it is worth honestly is worth me taking a few a few difficult
[00:08:00] media rounds like this where you ask me to set
[00:08:03] out far rather
[00:08:07] do that than increase the cost of borrowing okay but
[00:08:10] listen at the moment the government's current published
[00:08:14] figures show that NATO defense spending of 2.6% of
[00:08:18] GDP will happen this year, rising to
[00:08:20] 2.7% over the next three years, so you're
[00:08:24] only getting to 2.7% by 2030 right now, that's
[00:08:28] the truth of this situation that you don't seem to want to accept, which then begs the
[00:08:32] question, why did John Healey resign? John Healey resigned because you wouldn't
[00:08:36] get to 3% by 2030, and now he's a chancellor
[00:08:40] presiding over 2.7%. well hang a second
[00:08:43] because we when we came in defense spending was at
[00:08:46] 2.3%, by next year as you said it will be
[00:08:49] 2.7%, so we're making quite a lot of progress
[00:08:52] quickly, and then beyond 2027, those are
[00:08:56] the choices that that those are absolutely it's got to go
[00:09:00] up higher, but the chancellor will set out increased
[00:09:04] defense spending at both the budget, but also next year's spending
[00:09:08] review, so we're not going to get to 2%, 2.7%.
[00:09:12] then stop the stop stop the defense spending increases, we're
[00:09:16] going to have sustained increase in defense spending, you can judge us now by our
[00:09:20] actions, not just by our words, there is obviously more to
[00:09:24] do, okay so thank you for admitting that John Healey resigned because the
[00:09:27] government wouldn't go to 3% by 2030, and you're saying that
[00:09:31] you probably won't get to 3% by 2030, now he's chancellor, because at the moment
[00:09:35] it's only 2.7, I did not, I did not sounds like that to
[00:09:39] me, let's move on,
[00:09:41] say that Camilla, let's move on. That's not what I said at all, there will there
[00:09:45] will be more to come at the budget and the spending review, all I'm
[00:09:48] saying is I'm not going to be able to set out this morning ahead the
[00:09:52] budget and ahead of next year's spending review uh the path
[00:09:56] to 3.5%, that is something John Heilias said he will set out on next
[00:10:00] year's spending review, so before you before you before you
[00:10:04] write off getting to 3% or
[00:10:06] 3.5% uh wait for the spending review
[00:10:10] and just bear in mind defense. has already gone from
[00:10:14] 2.3% when we came in to 2.7% next
[00:10:17] year, so we are well on our way to 3% and we have a credible
[00:10:21] path ahead of us to three
[00:10:23] and a half. the spending review, we've been waiting for it
[00:10:27] for quite some time and it looks like we're going to be waiting for
[00:10:29] it for even longer we're streating, but what we be waiting as long for early general
[00:10:33] election? lots of rumors doing the round, how would you feel if
[00:10:37] your voters in Illford north where you have majority of just
[00:10:41] 528, we're able to turn up at polling booths without
[00:10:45] showing any photo ID. well, that was the
[00:10:48] longstanding uh practice in in elections and
[00:10:52] we're obviously um debating at the moment, got the... bill going through
[00:10:56] parliament, how we make our elections
[00:10:59] fairer uh, and that's about the cost of
[00:11:02] elections, donations and all of those sorts of issues, but
[00:11:06] also how we make sure that people can participate, and we've now
[00:11:10] had um photo ID introduced in UK
[00:11:13] elections for the first time, gives us a chance to see how it's
[00:11:17] gone, were there any unintended consequences of legitimate
[00:11:21] voters being disenfranchised, so that that's... debate
[00:11:25] that parliament will have ahead of it. um, let's talk about Trump on
[00:11:29] both Putin, diesel and Zelensky. how does the
[00:11:33] UK now handle the special relationship? well, look, it's not the
[00:11:37] first time we've seen a disagreement between Washington and Keep, between president Trump
[00:11:41] and President Zelensky, and in these situations, it's our
[00:11:44] responsibility to try and bring our friends back together. that's the leadership
[00:11:48] you can expect from Andy Burnham, from Ed Miller Band and I as we
[00:11:52] seek to do that. we we do stand for. where with Ukraine we
[00:11:56] have done since the outbreak of this war, in fact to Boris Johnson's
[00:12:00] credit, he was sending support for Ukraine ahead of war
[00:12:03] breaking out, because we could see uh where Russia was
[00:12:07] going, and that support has been rock solid across different
[00:12:11] conservative and labour prime ministers and that that will continue
[00:12:15] for as long as it takes until Ukraine secures their
[00:12:18] freedom, is Donald Trump wrong to do the deal on diesel and
[00:12:22] is he wrong to suggest that Zelensky needs to... and we're
[00:12:25] streating, well we we don't support the US decision on on
[00:12:29] diesel - and as for president Zelensky, I just say
[00:12:33] two things: firstly, it is for Ukraine to choose their leadership,
[00:12:37] not for anyone else, and secondly, I mean, I've had the the privilege
[00:12:41] of meeting President Zelensky, I think Ukraine is fortunate to have had
[00:12:44] someone of that courage and integrity and resolve
[00:12:48] leading Ukraine through what is an existential fight for their freedom,
[00:12:52] and having been to Keive and seen firsth the... that Russia is
[00:12:56] is taking on the Ukrainian people, I'm glad that we've got a
[00:12:59] strong leader in president Zelensky
[00:13:01] to to get behind and and last night our support for
[00:13:05] President Zelensky, is Donald Trump
[00:13:09] wrong, yes or no, yeah, I don't, I
[00:13:13] don't agree with President Trump and President, no, um, is the Cheegos
[00:13:17] deal dead, yes or no, uh, we're working with the US and the
[00:13:21] mauritians to find a way forward that everyone can live with.
[00:13:25] "it is important because the diego, well um, the
[00:13:29] deal, the deal as it stands can't go forward without US support, I've been
[00:13:32] clear about that previously, so we're working with the U.S. and
[00:13:36] Mauritian and Mauritius to see whether there are some changes we can make
[00:13:40] that everyone can live with, and the reason we're doing that is
[00:13:43] because at our base in Diego Garcia we have
[00:13:47] capability, which is absolutely vital to the
[00:13:50] UK's national security and is also highly..."
[00:13:55] valuable to the United States of America, so we work really closely with the US on
[00:13:59] this. It is not in anyone's interest to have level of
[00:14:02] risk and uncertainty hanging over that base and our ability to
[00:14:06] operate there. That is why conservative as well as labor
[00:14:10] governments have sort to negotiate a deal, that work is now
[00:14:14] ongoing. Okay, why is the prime minister seeking
[00:14:18] to rejoin the EU, when we've just heard from a senior MEP
[00:14:21] saying that would mean we'd have to ditch the pound? I'm not sure. "it passes the
[00:14:25] makerfield test, does it, west streating? well, it's also not quite what Andy
[00:14:29] Burnham has said, what he has said, and I think lots of people, including many
[00:14:33] people voted leave would agree with, is that Brexit has come a
[00:14:37] great cost, it's not been a great success, as
[00:14:41] as many the people who voted for it hoped it would be, and plenty of
[00:14:45] politicians promised it would be, but in terms the future
[00:14:49] relationship with the European Union, there are lots of different choices and tradeoffs,
[00:14:52] it's extremely nuance, so let me just tell you..." in
[00:14:56] favor of remaining in the European Union, it's not an on and off switch, so I don't think we
[00:15:00] can simply rejoin the European Union, there are lots of choices and
[00:15:04] tradeoffs that would come with closer relationships, and
[00:15:07] that's that's the discussion wants to have, not just with
[00:15:11] Brussels, but with the British people, hang on, there's
[00:15:14] a paradox here, isn't there in the minds of labor politicians, on one hand
[00:15:18] you're saying Brexit has irrevably harmed the British
[00:15:21] economy, and then in the same breath you're saying, we've got... the fastest
[00:15:25] growth in the euro zone, both can't be true, can they?
[00:15:29] well, I think they are, I think they are both true, and and let me just tell you
[00:15:33] that in terms the the cost of leaving the European
[00:15:36] Union.
[00:15:37] and the impact it's had on not just on economic cooperation, but
[00:15:41] also security cooperation, it has been significant,
[00:15:45] we are where we are, uh, the European Union and membership the
[00:15:49] EU is not an on and off switch, you can't just leave and then and then just
[00:15:53] rejoin, and there are lots of ways in which we could work more
[00:15:57] closely with the European Union without rejoining the European
[00:16:00] Union, but they would all have to be negotiated and
[00:16:04] all come with some choices and trade-offs and what the... wants
[00:16:08] to do is have a grown-up conversation with the country about that as
[00:16:12] well as negotiating withus to see what we could achieve for closer
[00:16:16] working relationship, but if it's not in our national interest we won't
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[00:19:40] "joining me now as the shadow chancellor the exteca, Andrew Griffith. You've
[00:19:43] applied five tests which you think must apply to John Healey's
[00:19:47] budget, but why didn't the conservatives ever apply them to their own
[00:19:51] budgets? Uh, well look, we're under new leadership, uh, I
[00:19:55] myself is
[00:19:56] a relatively new MP, um, and we've said very, very clearly,
[00:20:00] Camilla, last week at party conference, we did not get everything
[00:20:04] right in government, uh, we strayed away from our principle."
[00:20:08] that was a failure, we let people down, that's why we lost the last election,
[00:20:11] we're learning those lessons, we're a new united party, a
[00:20:15] conservative party uh, the new people standing for the election, for the
[00:20:19] conservatives the next election will be signed up to a good
[00:20:23] conservative manifesto, and that includes all the things that I've laid
[00:20:27] out in my tests for John Healey today, getting serious
[00:20:30] about funding defense, tackling the deficit, not putting up
[00:20:34] taxes, tackling the youth jobs emergency. and cutting
[00:20:38] welfare, well let's take them one by one, because this stop
[00:20:42] maxing out the nation's credit card, well public
[00:20:45] sector net debt was 65% in 2010.
[00:20:50] 'it was 95% in 2024 and it's going up
[00:20:54] even more now
[00:20:55] and we're paying record amount of inter debt interest
[00:20:59] uh but the rate is the highest it's been for 30 years so
[00:21:03] look let's let's just get this off the table and then we can move on camiller um
[00:21:07] not everything happened under this labor government but they inherited a
[00:21:10] challenging fiscal situation and they have made it progressively worse
[00:21:14] they've adding quarter of a trillion pounds to public
[00:21:18] debt they've increasing tax burden and likely to
[00:21:21] increase again following the budget, I've said in the past the conservatives
[00:21:25] didn't get everything right, we are under fresh leadership, and we are
[00:21:29] setting out a plan, and you you saw it last week in conference that is
[00:21:33] very different, it's a discontinuity with the past, but these five tests you
[00:21:37] failed yourself, stop maxing out the nation's credit card, the
[00:21:41] tories max out the nation's credit card, properly fund defense,
[00:21:44] the tories didn't properly fund defense, act on the youth jobs
[00:21:48] emergency, well we had had a quarter of million more
[00:21:52] needs between 2021 and 2024, introduce no
[00:21:56] new taxes. last time i checked you guys put up
[00:21:59] corporation tax, cut the welfare bill, again that's ballooned
[00:22:03] on your watch, so you might turn around and say tories have got a bit of
[00:22:07] a cheek with these five tests. you see my point, mr. griffith,
[00:22:11] don't you? well, i see your point, and what's more, camilla, i've conceeded your point a
[00:22:15] number of times now, um, mean i don't think you would have in 19, i don't think
[00:22:19] in 1970. you would have been sitting here accusing Mrs.
[00:22:22] Thatcher of being continuity Edward Heath, parties do change,
[00:22:26] they respond to the challenge the time. People within those
[00:22:30] parties change, and what I'm doing is setting out the policies, as you
[00:22:34] saw last week in the conservative party conference, setting out
[00:22:37] serious plans to tackle the deficit, savings in the public
[00:22:41] finances, reducing the burden of welfare, properly funding
[00:22:45] defense and laying out a plan to get our young people into work,
[00:22:48] tackling the youth jobs. making it cheaper for them to buy a house, get them
[00:22:52] on the housing letter, reduce stamp duty and reduce inheritance
[00:22:56] tax so that people can pass on their family home tax- free to the
[00:23:00] next generation. these are conservative policies, that's what we stand for right
[00:23:04] now. okay, i appreciate after a conservative party conference in
[00:23:08] Birmingham, i probably look older than my 48 years. i'll just point out that was only one year
[00:23:12] old in 1979, but no matter.
[00:23:15] um, now if the conservatives want
[00:23:19] to reverse the... the past and actually take back
[00:23:22] control for want of better expression of both the blob and the bank
[00:23:26] of England, you're going to have to do something radical, but the
[00:23:30] trouble is the last tory prime minister that tried that, Liz Truss, got
[00:23:34] gobbled up and spat out in 49 days. Well, look,
[00:23:37] let's uh, I think Kemy and I are equal to the task, I spent 25 years in
[00:23:41] business as finance director balancing the books, the key difference is
[00:23:45] we are setting out, and I did it last week, every single
[00:23:49] pound the... "we are going to save and and we're not just recycling that straight
[00:23:53] into tax cuts, half of that will go directly to
[00:23:56] tackling the deficit. um, so it's about being transparent,
[00:24:00] where you're getting the money from, what are the choices? not everyone will agree with those choices,
[00:24:04] we will have very different approach to welfare from a prime minister that says he's putting
[00:24:08] social security before national security, so not everyone will agree with
[00:24:12] those, but but you will have seen, you will have seen the spreadsheet that I
[00:24:16] laid out, talk journalists through, where the money is coming from, the choices we're making."
[00:24:20] and yes, some of that quite rightly, because we believe in people keeping more of what they
[00:24:24] earn, will go back to people in cuts, but others will
[00:24:27] properly fund our defense and put public finances a
[00:24:31] better footing. just on welfare, i think the figure that you now want to
[00:24:35] scrap from the welfare bill is 36 billion, including to your
[00:24:39] latest spreadsheets that yes i have had look at. having said all that,
[00:24:43] the welfare bill is set to rise by 30 billion over the next parliament
[00:24:46] anyway, so you're only cutting a rise, you're only really cut.
[00:24:50] 6 billion because it's going up by 30 uh, well that's
[00:24:54] absolutely right, we are cutting welfare by very significant amount, i think it's
[00:24:58] not ever reduction in the welfare budget because because
[00:25:02] it's out of control. now i will continue to do the work camilla
[00:25:05] to look at where the public finance is where we can make more choices, where
[00:25:09] we can save more money for taxpayers, but it'll be the most
[00:25:13] significant reduction in welfare, and unlike other
[00:25:16] parties, we are being responsible with the public finances. that will go
[00:25:20] to paying down the debt, reducing the deficit, that will lower the interest
[00:25:24] bill that's currently running at twice the defense budget, we are
[00:25:28] borrowing money as a country at the highest rates for 30 years
[00:25:31] simply to pay the interest on our debt, that's got a change and i would
[00:25:35] be a chancelor that tackles all of those things, but what what's
[00:25:39] the top line figure then from Andrew griffitz's
[00:25:43] spreadsheet on how many in billions of government
[00:25:46] savings the tories are actually pledging? What's the
[00:25:50] figure? 71 billion, top of that there's some other areas where we will
[00:25:54] repure repurpose money, we'll take money away from net zero budgets
[00:25:58] and put it in defense for example, but 71 billion, which is about four and...
[00:26:02] half percent the total government spending, now I think we should be
[00:26:06] more than equal to that task, Camilla, I think any enterprise, any
[00:26:09] organization, any business has to have the ability at all times to
[00:26:13] be able to make choices in that or
[00:26:16] magnitude over the remainder of this
[00:26:19] parliament, you're already unh, you're already unpopular with the country aren't
[00:26:23] you, because you're polling behind labor and reform, you're quite
[00:26:27] happy then to be rebranded the austerity
[00:26:30] party buse that's what will happen, i
[00:26:33] appreciate one man's austerity is someone else's efficiency correct,
[00:26:37] i'm not happy to be branded anything, i'll use my own words, but i am happy that we
[00:26:41] conservative party are once again a party of low taxes, of fiscal
[00:26:45] responsibility, of deregulation that's going to get our economy growing
[00:26:48] again and give a brighter future to our young people, we're also a party
[00:26:52] that believes in a strong defense, that you get you get peace through
[00:26:56] strength, also that we're proud proud of our
[00:26:59] history, but it's an unashamedly blue. offer this,
[00:27:03] isn't it? you know, scrap iht, scrap stamp
[00:27:06] duty, oppose the mansion tax, take away that are 100
[00:27:10] grand cliff edge for child cl claiming of 30 hours a
[00:27:14] week, you're basically put pitching yourself directly at the middle
[00:27:17] classes, because presumably you accept that you've lost the red wall and you're
[00:27:21] never going to win it back. uh, no, I don't think that's right, this is a the
[00:27:25] proposals that we are making our proposals for the whole country, we want to
[00:27:29] get the whole country uh growing again if you look at cheaper energy that
[00:27:33] benefits those industrial businesses in the midlands with our cheap
[00:27:37] energy plan uh reducing taxes and leaving more money into people's
[00:27:41] pockets helps everybody, it helps doctors, nurses,
[00:27:44] policemen um so it's not a country, it's not a strategy for any particular part
[00:27:48] the country, it's a strategy for the whole country, everybody
[00:27:52] benefits, if we get our economy growing, everybody
[00:27:55] benefit
[00:27:56] lower taxes, it's a strategy for people who own property isn't it, mean you
[00:28:00] say about helping the young if they're not even on the... why would they vote for the
[00:28:04] conservatives? uh, well we're going to get them
[00:28:05] on the ladder, camilla. i talked about how we're going to reduce by cutting all some the red tape, the gold
[00:28:09] plating, we can reduce the price of new bill properties by
[00:28:13] 50,000 pounds, that will help young people get onto the housing ladder
[00:28:17] earlier, we're going to speed up the process of houses in this country being
[00:28:20] built, not where they go, but getting them built once consent has been
[00:28:24] given, um, and look, you know, you're living in the past to be honest, mean this
[00:28:28] inheritance tax thing, it used to be one in 20, it's now.
[00:28:32] one in six families because of labor's expansion to
[00:28:36] farmers, to family businesses, because the thresolds haven't changed,
[00:28:40] it's one in six families that could be touched by inheritance tax, and it's an
[00:28:44] immoral tax,
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[00:32:06] Welcome back to the Camilla Tommy Show on GB News. Reform UKMP for Romford. Andrew
[00:32:10] Rossendale joins me now. Now let me just take up something that Robert
[00:32:14] Gen told a press conference on Friday because I just want your perspective on
[00:32:18] this, so he's accused Keny Beadenock of being a
[00:32:21] Kensington Kemy, saying that the tories are now for
[00:32:24] millionaires, not man's field, he says that they are
[00:32:28] people who are nostalgic for Mayfair clubs that they're
[00:32:32] responsible for giving bong bungs to Belgravia and
[00:32:36] so on and so forth, now correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't
[00:32:39] Nigel Farage belong to quite a nice mafia club, I
[00:32:43] have seen him, I think at five Hartford Street and Oswald's several
[00:32:47] times. I do believe that he's got a mate called Posch George, who owns a
[00:32:51] Balgravia property that he once stayed in, and uh, he
[00:32:54] also once lived in Kensington himself, didn't he? Well,
[00:32:58] Camilla, I'm
[00:32:59] not a member of any these clubs. Well, that's lovely. But, and I represent a
[00:33:03] constituency called Romford, and it's a seat where you have
[00:33:06] people that are hard-working entrepreneurs, uh, law
[00:33:10] abiding, tax-paying people, and they are being taxed to the hilt by the labour
[00:33:14] government. right and they didn't do terribly well under the conservatives either, so
[00:33:18] unfortunately what the conservatives, my former party now seem to be
[00:33:21] doing is looking to places like Kensington instead of
[00:33:25] looking after places like Rompford and provincial towns
[00:33:29] across the country, which actually is the bedrock of our
[00:33:33] nation. We need to look after the working class people of this
[00:33:36] country who get up early, who who earn an honest living
[00:33:40] and labor's not doing that and the conservatives aren't you defining working class,
[00:33:44] because if you're... millionaire and you're working, then you're a worker, right?
[00:33:48] you're part of alarm clock Britain as Nigel Farage likes to say? anyone that
[00:33:52] works is part the working class? but this is Jenrik's rhetoric
[00:33:56] is rather anti thatcheright and I thought you might object to that because I know you're a
[00:34:00] massive Maggie fan. No, I don't, I don't think Robert is anti
[00:34:04] Thatrite. I think what he's doing is putting it a modern context.
[00:34:08] Robert's policy of increasing the tax threshhold to
[00:34:11] 15,000 will benefit 40,000 people across the country.
[00:34:15] so all working people benefit from what Robert is suggesting, so
[00:34:19] he's thinking about the whole country, not pockets of Britain at the conservages need
[00:34:23] to win, okay, but say for instance if you were going to scrap inheritance tax on
[00:34:27] people's main property, then that obviously benefits those further down the
[00:34:31] inheritance chain, doesn't it, it helps people's children and grandchildren, we
[00:34:35] are a crisis now with younger people not able to afford their own homes, I
[00:34:39] think the average age of home ownership is now towards 30 when it
[00:34:43] used to be around 23. so that's problematic, I'm just intrigued
[00:34:47] because in your former conservative guise you would have loved policies
[00:34:51] like scrap iht, scrap stamp duty, avoid
[00:34:54] mansion taxes, make sure that working parents can have access to
[00:34:58] childcare, what's happened? what makes you think I still don't? I want to reduce the size the
[00:35:02] state, I want to reduce taxes at every level, but the country is
[00:35:06] bankrupt, and one the reasons we're bankrupt is the conservatives
[00:35:10] went for these crazy lockdowns which destroyed our economy for two years,
[00:35:14] that's the real reason. that we're in such debt, so we've got to
[00:35:17] get to back to living within our means, and Robert setting out very clear
[00:35:21] agenda, how we get people back to work, how we get rid of labor's
[00:35:25] jobs tax, how we incentivize people back into work
[00:35:28] again, and how we reduce public expenditure on things
[00:35:32] like welfare, which is so out of control, so we have
[00:35:36] clear plan to put Britain back on the right track, the conservatives,
[00:35:40] unfortunately, it's all about survival for them, so they're looking at
[00:35:44] seats like, like Kensington where these sort of
[00:35:47] policies will potentially mean that they can win those seats on labor
[00:35:51] Kensington and Chelsea has been previously labor leaning, I mean the former
[00:35:54] MP there, the suspended labor MP Emma Dent code
[00:35:58] weirdly is now supporting the greens, but no matter that has switched, I'm
[00:36:02] just intrigued by this and I think the audience will be intrigued, do you think that reform now is
[00:36:06] pivoting to become a kind of red wall focus
[00:36:10] party because you don't think
[00:36:12] you can win the blue wall and then what does that say about
[00:36:16] right-wing politics in the UK today? because as you all know from the Boris
[00:36:19] Johnson election of 2019, you've got to unite those two
[00:36:23] caucuses, if you look at essecs, we have united both,
[00:36:27] so the... plenty of blue wall seats, what you would consider blue
[00:36:30] wall that actually went massively reforming the local
[00:36:33] elections, there are other seats at more red wall that are also
[00:36:37] coming reform, so I think that Nigel is appealing to
[00:36:41] people from both ends and we seeing
[00:36:44] uh UK reform UK support very strong in all
[00:36:48] parts the country, okay admittedly you know in some the leafy
[00:36:52] wealthy suburbs of London and bits of Surry and Hampshire and places like that, it's
[00:36:55] going to be tougher for reform. I mean home counties, Tory
[00:36:59] Shires, Essex is a home county, we're doing rather well in Essex, okay,
[00:37:03] but Essex is kind of kind of unique case, isn't it? Look, it's patchy
[00:37:06] across the country, there's no doubt about that, but reform is appealing to people
[00:37:10] the conservatives cannot cannot appeal to, but wouldn't it be better if you wanted to
[00:37:14] repeat uh the sort of uh magic if you
[00:37:18] like of 2019 as far as anybody remotely that way
[00:37:22] at leaning might consider it, doesn't it really lend
[00:37:25] itself to a conversation properly? about trying to unite the
[00:37:29] right, because if the tories do manage to soak up more the blue
[00:37:33] wall and do a bit better, and we see that the liberal democrats are now at each other's
[00:37:36] throats, is there davy going to survive as leader?
[00:37:40] you'd want to team up with them because they can reach the parts that faraj can,
[00:37:44] and faraj can re the part, reach the parts that badenock can't. i
[00:37:48] went personally to visit chemy while was a conservative mp after the
[00:37:52] party conference, and i appealed to her,
[00:37:54] i said, look, our country is more important than any political... party,
[00:37:58] we need to try to bring all these sides together to get rid of
[00:38:02] this dreadful labor government, and we need to put country
[00:38:06] first, and that means you need to talk to Nigel, you need to try and align on
[00:38:10] policy, treat them as potential allies, not enemies and
[00:38:14] she said to me, I've never spoken to that man and I will not speak to him, well he
[00:38:18] has said he wants the end the conservative party, you've Zayup doesn't
[00:38:22] seem the got who even to like some conservatives now in his own party, the conservative party let us down so
[00:38:26] badly, don't forget.
[00:38:27] moderate,
[00:38:31] you
[00:38:34] much you did more stood down left-wing, serve all under of his candidates in however
[00:38:36] did, you 2019, want to describe it, liberal democrat leaning uh leaders the
[00:38:40] touri party than kemmynock, didn't you? you were happy to serve under David Cameron, you're
[00:38:44] happy to serve under Theresa May, you're happy to serve under Rishi Sunat, you're happy to serve under
[00:38:47] Boris Johnson, but not Badenock, even you must view her as being more
[00:38:51] right-wing and than any the F4 mentioned leaders, you said I was happy to serve under
[00:38:55] them, well you did for 25 years. assumption there, you
[00:38:59] conservative party for a long time, conservative party was the only credible
[00:39:03] right of center party to govern the country at the time, yes, I'm a Margaret thatcher
[00:39:07] person, ever since Margaret thatcher was pushed out by
[00:39:11] the party establishment all those years ago, the party never really recovered,
[00:39:14] and we we went a downward spiral gradually becoming more of a
[00:39:18] technocratic party, more liberal uh, allowing
[00:39:22] the Blaire it agenda to take hold, and we didn't reverse any of it, David
[00:39:26] Cameron, air to Blair, that stuff, I sat there with gritted
[00:39:29] teeth, but I was a rebellious backbencher and I always made my
[00:39:33] case very clear, and I voted and rebelled when I felt it was necessary, are
[00:39:37] you going to mount a rebellion about your esteemed leader's
[00:39:41] relationship with Donald Trump now that the US president has done
[00:39:45] a diesel deal with Putin and is suggesting that Zelensky
[00:39:49] should stand down, and I ask you this because I know you've done a lot of work behind the scenes on
[00:39:52] Ukraine, Andrew Rossandell, this is awkward isn't it, so it's
[00:39:56] up to Ukraine who... have as their president, it's up to them to have an election at some
[00:40:00] point, I think they do need an election, it's difficult during wartime,
[00:40:04] but there needs to be some democratic mandate if Zelenski is going to
[00:40:08] stay in power, as for Nigel, he's good friends of Donald Trump, but he doesn't
[00:40:12] agree with Donald Trump on everything, at all uh, Donald Trump is
[00:40:15] doing lot of things over the years which we have sympathy with, on other things we
[00:40:19] don't, doesn't mean we have to agree on everything, but what do you think of this diesel deal with
[00:40:23] Putin, I mean most people who are supportive of Ukraine would think it's
[00:40:26] despicable? 'I have no time for Putin at all,
[00:40:30] however it's up to the United States to do what what the United
[00:40:33] States wants to do in its own interests and whether whatever we think of Donald
[00:40:37] Trump, he will always do what he thinks is best for America and that's up to him. I know, but
[00:40:41] it's not good for the world is it to have the US president cosing up to a Russian
[00:40:44] dictator. I don't think anyone by this if you're a
[00:40:48] fight, you must be absolut, I have no time for Vladimir
[00:40:52] Putin, I think what's happened in Ukraine is despicable, I
[00:40:56] think the harm it's done to the people'. of Ukraine and of course the Russian people to have
[00:40:59] suffered, I think the whole thing is appalling and it needs to end, but
[00:41:03] ultimately
[00:41:04] it is up to America decide its own policies, not up to me to tell
[00:41:08] Donald Trump what to do, would even try, what he should
[00:41:11] probably give him a ring and say is this the right
[00:41:13] idea, wouldn't reform voters look
[00:41:17] at this and think it there's something a bit rum about I actually think reform voters are more concerned about what's
[00:41:21] going on in this country, we've got many challenges here and that's what our focus has
[00:41:25] to be, very quickly on that, do you think there is going to be early general election as
[00:41:29] is being reported widely across all the newspapers today. i
[00:41:32] think that Burnham is capable of doing anything, he is
[00:41:36] desperate for labor to stay in power, even if it means...
[00:41:40] guarding a big chunk of his labour MPs and doing some sort of
[00:41:43] far left deal with the liberals and the greens and the you think he doesn't mind a
[00:41:47] progressive alliance provided he remains prime minister he's he's a bit of a
[00:41:51] corbin really isn't he burnham he's adopting the type of
[00:41:55] policies that Corbin would have been happy with look at his policies on
[00:41:59] Israel or nationalization raising taxes I
[00:42:03] think that he would uh be prepared to go into a left-wing progressive
[00:42:06] alliance and that's what Reform UK have to stop and we will.
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[00:46:20] Welcome back! Green party activist Michael Wakelin Green joins me now.
[00:46:24] Can I ask you first of all, did you support this Zionism is racism
[00:46:28] motion? I supported it in its broader context, but I did also vote for the
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[00:46:38] and um... Yes, so I did support the motion, because I do
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[00:46:46] what we are seeing in Israel, Gaza, the west bank and the wider expansion
[00:46:50] the Israeli state into places like Syria.
[00:46:56] It's about colonialization, it's about displacing people and
[00:46:59] disenfranchising people. What is your understanding, what
[00:47:03] is your understanding the word zionism? We're now kind of going into
[00:47:06] semantics here, and I do kind of agree, it's a complex issue as a lot of
[00:47:10] RMPs have quite rightly said, what we have though is
[00:47:14] the reality of Zionism in 2026 with those were
[00:47:18] leading Israel, also the opposition parties in Israel are saying lot the very similar things
[00:47:22] that... just define it for me, just define
[00:47:25] zionism for me, well in my view it's Israel trying to
[00:47:29] create a greater Israel project and expanding the territory of
[00:47:33] Israel into currently settle places like Palestine in South
[00:47:37] Lebanon, again a homeland for Jewish people, but at
[00:47:41] what expense, who is getting displaced, who is getting killed
[00:47:44] in this motion,
[00:47:48] this motion calls for a single democratic state
[00:47:52] in all of historic Palestine, all of historic
[00:47:55] Palestine includes Israel, so this motion supports a
[00:47:59] one state solution for the Middle East, doesn't it, with equal rights and
[00:48:03] dignity for all who are there, that includes the current Israelis, but it also includes
[00:48:07] the garzans and people in the west bank, so motion that
[00:48:10] proposes a one-state solution wants Israel to be wiped
[00:48:14] from the map, doesn't it? Israel doesn't have a right to exist, the people of
[00:48:18] Israel do have a right to exist, and those people, those israel
[00:48:22] "Israelis will live with dignity and respect, right? so historic
[00:48:26] Palestine, historic Palestine includes a part
[00:48:30] the Middle East that was once known as Judea. do you
[00:48:34] understand what the word judea means, Mr. Waklin Greek? I
[00:48:37] i do indeed, but it's the linguistic root
[00:48:41] the word Jew, isn't it? it means the Jewish homeland, so when you
[00:48:45] say that historic Palestine should be the only place that exists and that
[00:48:49] includes Juda and other areas, 'you effectively
[00:48:53] calling for Israel to be wiped off the map. what therefore
[00:48:57] happens to the 10 million Jews that live there? they still live
[00:49:01] there with dignity and respect as part the society is
[00:49:04] not. no,
[00:49:06] no, no, they would have democratic representation, more than the Arab population
[00:49:10] is having at the moment in Israel, which is uh, as UN is identified as
[00:49:14] a partide state. right, so you're no, no, no, hang a
[00:49:17] minute, hang a minute, let's get this very, very clear.
[00:49:21] somebody in the UN has' suggested that it's an apartite state and we've got question
[00:49:25] marks over that particular ruling because of some of people on the
[00:49:28] panel. Israel per say has not been found
[00:49:31] guilty of genocide any international court has it,
[00:49:35] mr. wakelin green, so I'm not sure why you think you know better than any
[00:49:38] international court is under investigation at the moment
[00:49:42] because not been found guilty of it so why are you going around saying genocide
[00:49:46] genocide? you can't call somebody
[00:49:47] a murder unless they've actually been found
[00:49:49] guilty. international
[00:49:53] society of genocide scholars is in human rights
[00:49:57] organization betsalen which is an Israeli human rights organization it's
[00:50:00] a british red cross or saying it this basically if you
[00:50:04] look at it 95% of organizations are involved in the area
[00:50:08] are calling it what it is it's a genocide and you got the Israeli government and basically the
[00:50:12] us government and our government who are saying it's
[00:50:14] not the right to exist as a
[00:50:18] state uh no right no
[00:50:21] country and "international law has a right to exist as a state, it's
[00:50:25] people who have a right to exist with dignity and
[00:50:28] respect, and human rights and that is what we are advocating
[00:50:31] for. well, you're advocating, you're advocating a one-state
[00:50:35] solution, which is quite the departure, isn't it? you're now being
[00:50:39] investigated thanks to referral by the campaign against
[00:50:42] anti-semitism to the quality and
[00:50:46] human rights commission, and that's because quite rightly, and your own Jewish leader
[00:50:50] has said this, that the party now may be..." actively discriminating
[00:50:53] against Jews, so you have to therefore accept that if the
[00:50:57] campaign against anti-semitism considered this to be anti-semitic, if it
[00:51:01] walks like a duck and quacks like a duck,
[00:51:03] it is a duck, isn't it, Mr. Waklin Greene? uh,
[00:51:06] no,
[00:51:07] I don't, I don't agree with that, we have the only Jewish party leader
[00:51:11] that in this country at this moment in time, and I abhor
[00:51:15] antisemitism very much, head
[00:51:16] the the Jewish greens, the head the Jewish Greens thinks it's
[00:51:20] anti-semitic.
[00:51:22] like
[00:51:28] one person it
[00:51:29] didn't doesn't mean that other jews this
[00:51:33] problem perhaps this is the problem the briefing paper
[00:51:37] that accompanied the motion suggested that the word antisemitism
[00:51:41] is a quotes miss nomer. do you agree
[00:51:45] with that? no, i think anti-semitism is
[00:51:48] incredibly serious, i also supported
[00:51:52] the... to the motion as weren't well,
[00:51:55] passed,
[00:51:56] which so
[00:51:57] so so thanks to less than one% of green members, we now
[00:52:01] have a situation where because this amendment wasn't passed, the amendment was meant to
[00:52:05] protect Jews going to their place of worship, we now have
[00:52:08] Jews unprotected going to their place of worship, even in the
[00:52:12] aftermath the killings at Heaton Park, so the greens
[00:52:16] in all their infinite wisdom have now left Jews
[00:52:19] unprotected going to synagogues, and you're
[00:52:23] happy with this, are you, Mr. Wakling Greene? I do
[00:52:27] want, I did want amendments to the motion, and I think when it comes back into
[00:52:31] conference, I said we're a very democratic party, I'm sure there will be some amendments that will be put.
[00:52:35] forward to this motion, there was nothing in the motion that explicitly
[00:52:38] targeted Jewish people to begin with, it made very clear that anti-semitism and
[00:52:42] antizion
[00:52:45] again ideology, there isn't anything in the
[00:52:46] motion that jews
[00:52:50] themselves will find the motion racist, do
[00:52:54] accept that premise because you're meant to be very
[00:52:56] inclusive
[00:52:58] some Jewish people will, many Jewish people, including the party
[00:53:01] leader, again is Jewish, yeah won't think it's racist.
[00:53:05] well the party leader quite cowardly skipped the
[00:53:08] vote, didn't he? does he remain as leader the greens, Mr. Waklin green
[00:53:12] finally, he needs to stand down, doesn't he, this has been utter sham and
[00:53:16] outrage, no, we've tripled our membership, we won our
[00:53:20] first by-election early this year again one of your hosts in your
[00:53:23] show, and we did quite well in the election that happened the other day, we got over
[00:53:26] 30% the vote, stranger, i think we'll
[00:53:30] come back stronger, especially burnan pivots back to the
[00:53:34] right, pash: you've been referred to the equality and human rights
[00:53:37] commission, people are saying that what you've done with this motion is worse
[00:53:41] than the worst of Jeremy Corbin leading labor, and you think you've had a good
[00:53:45] week? I think when we see a genocide streamed in
[00:53:48] 4K, hundreds of thousand people under the rubble their own
[00:53:52] houses, I think that's heinous, I think that's subseen and we
[00:53:55] should think that a party of progressives
[00:53:59] suggests a one state solution in the Middle East and suggests that the
[00:54:02] Israeli people and the Jewish people don't have a... right to the homeland is the
[00:54:06] day frankly progressiveness died, mr. wakelin green, we need to leave it
[00:54:10] there, thank you to all of my guests
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[00:55:12] Monday morning in the far east, but for all of us
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[00:55:23] east though, best of this will be across northern and eastern Scotland,
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[00:55:41] the cloud thickens as we move through the morning, I breaks of
[00:55:44] rain and drizzle slowly pushing north and eastwards through the day, we could see one or two
[00:55:48] heavier bursts but it will generally be light and patchy, the wind's coming in from
[00:55:52] the south fairly breezy around the coasts and with that breeze
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[00:56:00] few brighter breaks or some sunny spells trying to move
[00:56:04] through, but most of us It will be cloudy but much mild
[00:56:06] the temperatures in the high teens for most locally getting to
[00:56:10] 20-21 celsius where we do see any
[00:56:13] sunshine. Heavy rain in the northwest. Monday night will push slowly
[00:56:17] southeastwards through Tuesday, turning much brighter behind it with
[00:56:21] sunshine and blustery showers. Showers most frequent in the
[00:56:24] northwest here and temperatures again reaching the high teens
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