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[00:00:00] I thank the home secretary for advance sight of her statement. The whole
[00:00:04] house supports the security services and the police for their
[00:00:07] work. I pay tribute to the brave men and women
[00:00:11] of who serve our country in that way. On
[00:00:14] RF Fairford, firstly, seven suspects were arrested,
[00:00:18] one, a duel UK Iranian
[00:00:22] in national. These men were all released
[00:00:27] of a quickly on bail, and senior US officials have expressed surprise about this. "can the home secretary tell the
[00:00:31] house if she thinks it was reasonable to release these men so
[00:00:35] quickly and if she believes they posse any
[00:00:37] risk. will the
[00:00:39] of home secretary also tell the house, if the government was aware in
[00:00:43] advance of any threat to
[00:00:46] in RAFford, and if so what action they took? as the prime
[00:00:50] in minister and just now the home secretary have both said, it is highly likely the
[00:00:55] a Iranian state directed this. it is not
[00:00:58] acceptable for a state like..." Iran to organize
[00:01:01] hostile activity
[00:01:03] on our soil. After the
[00:01:05] of Salsbury attacks by Russia, then Prime Minister Teresa
[00:01:08] May expelled 23 Russian
[00:01:12] a
[00:01:12] of diplomats. So will the government now take similar action
[00:01:16] and expell Iranian diplomats, especially
[00:01:20] those thought to be involved in hostile activity
[00:01:23] or in espionage. And does she agree in
[00:01:27] these
[00:01:28] of
[00:01:29] in circumstances, it was... wise
[00:01:34] in of the foreign secretary to publicly shake hands with the Iranian foreign minister on September 24th in contravention of
[00:01:38] longstanding foreign office policy. I note,
[00:01:42] Mr. Speaker that on the 4th of October
[00:01:44] of the U.S. withdrew all of its B1 bombers from Raf Fairford, and
[00:01:48] both the US president and vice president
[00:01:51] a ascribed this to security concerns. Will the home secretary confirm
[00:01:55] that is indeed why the B1's left, and does the home secretary have any
[00:01:59] concerns? about the safety of US military assets
[00:02:02] here, because shortly after the RAF incident, two
[00:02:06] Latvian men were arrested inside RAF Mullsworth,
[00:02:10] which also hosts US forces. Can the home
[00:02:13] of secretary of comment on whether
[00:02:15] of any foreign state may also have been involved
[00:02:18] of in that incident too? Mr. Speaker,
[00:02:22] I thank the home secretary for her update on the police response to the
[00:02:26] terrible murder of Ann Whidicam. The whole house.
[00:02:30] mornser and those who know Anne, of course will
[00:02:33] miss her, and this comes on the heels
[00:02:37] of of the tragic murders of our dear colleagues, Joe Cox and
[00:02:40] of David Amis, not that long ago. The threat
[00:02:44] against current and former members of Parliament is
[00:02:48] clearly
[00:02:49] in very real one. Joshua Carry, the accused of
[00:02:52] murdering and is said by prosecutors to have an extreme
[00:02:56] left-wing mindset, suggesting this was a politically motivator.
[00:03:00] murder, he's also accused of conducting online
[00:03:04] reconnaissance on over 100 public figures and
[00:03:08] a trying to break into the home
[00:03:09] me of the
[00:03:09] a honorable member for
[00:03:10] in Clacton last year. It has been reported that despite
[00:03:14] recovering substantial amounts of CCTV, that case was
[00:03:18] closed. It was then reopened in
[00:03:22] all sorry, just very careful
[00:03:23] of about how we're going, motivation, we're creeping into
[00:03:26] a what a court might deciding were not the court. Please we can just...
[00:03:30] tear a little bit away, because we all want prosecution, I want nothing
[00:03:34] to risk this case cuz she was a french
[00:03:37] of of war. thank you, Mr. Speaker, I was quoting what the prosecutor said, but of course
[00:03:40] I'll um take
[00:03:42] of your advice um, as always, um, I was going to go to ask,
[00:03:46] whether the home secretary shares my concern, which she alluded to
[00:03:48] a in her statement, that the cancellation
[00:03:51] of the earlier investigation may have meant opportunities to
[00:03:55] prevent the later tragedy might have been
[00:03:58] missed. I understand, and number of current and
[00:04:02] former MPs have very recently
[00:04:04] of been contacted to be told that they appeared a list made by
[00:04:08] Kerry. Kerry was arrested on the 11th of
[00:04:11] July, but
[00:04:12] of it was not until last week, nearly three months
[00:04:15] of later that some of those on that list, colleagues of ours here and other former
[00:04:18] MPs
[00:04:19] a were notified. can the home secretary tell the house when she
[00:04:23] knew about that list, and to she agree it would be wrong if
[00:04:27] those listed on it had the information with held from them for a
[00:04:31] period of time, potentially as long as three months.
[00:04:35] threats to democratically elected representatives are
[00:04:41] of a threats to democracy. well, hello there, I'm Michelle Jubery, you're just listening in to the House of Commons there, where we've just seen
[00:04:45] our home secretary,
[00:04:47] of Shabana Mahmoud, she was addressing the house there,
[00:04:50] of announcing essentially a root and branch review of
[00:04:54] security for those in public office,
[00:04:58] of um, aside
[00:04:58] from additional to, the police support for MPs. She
[00:05:02] was
[00:05:03] in also announcing sir, Stephen Lovegrove will conduct that
[00:05:06] review, that review will report back in six months time. She
[00:05:10] also then announced a inquiry into the
[00:05:14] heatenpack synagogue attacks. welcome
[00:05:17] to jubes and cur, there are so many things we need to talk about tonight,
[00:05:21] ladies and gents alongside me to respond to that and
[00:05:25] more. i've got Paulster academic and gb news presenter matt
[00:05:29] goodwin. i've also as well alongside him
[00:05:32] got uh journalist dan Hodges. gents, i
[00:05:36] shall pick up on that story actually uh live, you just been hearing it on
[00:05:40] fold there, you've also just been hearing as well. um
[00:05:43] the shadow home secretary Chris Philp responding
[00:05:46] directly to that. What were your thoughts listening in? Well, there's
[00:05:50] a lot to uh think about there, Michelle. I mean, the
[00:05:53] couple of things that stand out to me: firstly, it is now crystal clear,
[00:05:57] I think that the police did not take the original
[00:06:01] um plot against Nigel Farage anywhere near as
[00:06:05] seriously as they should have done. Nigel has gone on record saying he thinks had
[00:06:08] they done so then Ann Widdeckham, our friend would still be... with
[00:06:12] us today uh that needs to be investigated uh
[00:06:16] fully uh the second thing is raf
[00:06:20] fairford and this sort of absurdity of where we
[00:06:24] are now, because on the one hand we
[00:06:27] know, we know that the small boats have been bringing in convicted
[00:06:31] terrorists from Iraq, Kuwait, from Egypt, um,
[00:06:34] people have been convicted of terrorist offenses in Germany, and
[00:06:38] at the same time we've got a labour government that's refusing to stop the...
[00:06:42] illegal migration flows and is putting the British people
[00:06:46] and our allies at risk. Nigel Farage this morning said he
[00:06:50] thinks we are facing national state of
[00:06:53] emergency. I agree with him, uh, we need to control
[00:06:57] our borders, we need to clamp down on the terrorists that are being able now.
[00:07:01] They are able to enter, stream into our country at will,
[00:07:04] and we're losing our allies. I mean, I never thought I'd see the day
[00:07:08] where we'd have a government sucking up to Iran to...
[00:07:13] and Hamas while clamping down on Israel and alienating the United States of
[00:07:17] America, but here we are. yeah, I mean, I
[00:07:21] think obviously, as Mata said,
[00:07:24] very wide range of very serious issues there, obviously we heard
[00:07:28] the, the statement firstly in relation to to MPs, as Matt said,
[00:07:32] obviously, as we're aware, there has been a specific
[00:07:35] threat um in relation to Nigel Farage
[00:07:39] identified, but I mean also, there has... been a
[00:07:42] specific threat my understanding, it's been, it's a matter
[00:07:45] of public
[00:07:46] record now, specific threat to over 100
[00:07:50] MPs um from from all parties, including Kemy
[00:07:53] Badnock, um, and indeed, my understanding is
[00:07:57] Rosie Duffield who is a former labor MP,
[00:08:01] so a sense there's not you, there's not a hierarchy of of threat in
[00:08:05] relation to this, all all our public servants sadly
[00:08:09] are facing this in relation to
[00:08:12] 'RAF Fairford, um, again, I think I said it at the time when the
[00:08:16] incident first occurred, and that was
[00:08:19] Matt's Matt's response at the time, we had discussion about it on Twitter, I mean,
[00:08:23] I, I have to say I'm find it surprising that when Britain
[00:08:27] uh, is subject to some form attack by a foreign
[00:08:31] state, hostile state, Matt's initial reaction is to turn inward
[00:08:34] and attack the British government, I mean, I'm I'm
[00:08:38] I'm particularly surprised to see him still banging the sort of'
[00:08:42] the drum on on on the small boats given he and number of
[00:08:46] his colleagues in the immediate aftermath the incident were
[00:08:50] run running around saying that the it seem clear the people
[00:08:53] involved um were Iranian nationals who
[00:08:57] arrived on small boats you know they were attacking and are still attacking in
[00:09:01] certain instances the security services um for in their view not
[00:09:05] being top of this instant we've had a we've had had more of
[00:09:08] you know those attacks on the authorities today
[00:09:11] and and and and obviously
[00:09:13] that that as far as the information we have uh, none of that turned out to be
[00:09:17] true. well, just briefly on that, here's
[00:09:21] what I can't get my head around. 10 years ago, 11 years ago, the European
[00:09:25] Commission was warned, the European Commission was warned that terrorists
[00:09:29] would use illegal migration to funnel
[00:09:33] terrorists into western nations. the next year, 2016,
[00:09:37] Frontex, the agency that monitors Europe's borders,
[00:09:41] said the terrorist. we're using illegal migration to flood
[00:09:44] Europe, to flood western nations with terrorists after the Paris attacks in
[00:09:48] 2015, two of those individuals had entered France
[00:09:51] illegally, we know already in this country we have got convicted
[00:09:55] terrorists arriving through illegal migration from Iraq, Kuwait, Germany, Egypt and
[00:09:59] elsewhere, we know that, that's all on the public record, irrespective of whether or not
[00:10:03] these particular individuals are connected to the small
[00:10:07] boats, it is nonetheless utterly absurd that Shaban
[00:10:11] and
[00:10:12] Mahmoud, let me finish. and utterly absurd that Shabbaana Mahmoud stands there talking about national
[00:10:16] security, well tonight, tomorrow, the next day and the next
[00:10:19] day and the next day, anybody can enter this country at will, no matter where they're
[00:10:23] from, what they believe, why? they're here and historians
[00:10:26] in the years to come will have to explain this how a state, a
[00:10:30] supposedly serious state like the United Kingdom has
[00:10:33] allowed this level of threat to enter at
[00:10:37] will, but I'm sorry and I think you know that that that of party
[00:10:40] political broadcast on on behalf of reform and underlines
[00:10:44] the problem, I mean these are very, very, very
[00:10:48] serious national security issues that we're talking about, now you and your
[00:10:51] colleagues, you're now saying, oh well, maybe these specific... people w that
[00:10:55] doesn't matter at the time it did matter to you and and as
[00:10:59] I said in relate your immediate response and the response of your
[00:11:02] colleagues to major national security
[00:11:05] threat was to attempt to politicize the incident
[00:11:09] and you got your facts in the incident we
[00:11:13] know the Iranians have sent agents and operatives in what we know
[00:11:16] that
[00:11:18] with respect you ask me you ask me to let me finish so you
[00:11:21] please let me finish now you still
[00:11:25] aspire, I understand to government, your
[00:11:28] colleagues - aspire to government. I mean, I don't
[00:11:32] think that, I don't think that is, is how things are going
[00:11:36] to play out, but one the things you're going to have to
[00:11:39] understand and learn is if you do genuinely aspire to
[00:11:43] govern the United Kingdom at the highest office, you are going to have to learn
[00:11:47] to respond to these very serious
[00:11:50] threats, national security threats a
[00:11:54] way. that is much more mature than you're doing, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I just want to come back
[00:11:58] on this, we talk about mature response stand, we are living under labor government
[00:12:02] that has gone to shake hands with the very state that is
[00:12:05] seeking to destroy our civilization, Ed Miller Band
[00:12:09] went over, shook hands with the Iranians, we've got a labor government that is
[00:12:13] cosing up to Hamas, has been praised by Hamas twice in as
[00:12:17] many years because it is selling out our foreign policy in order
[00:12:20] to essentially reward Islamists while punishing Israel and we are...
[00:12:25] now alienating even the United States of America who are removing
[00:12:29] their military capabilities from the United Kingdom because,
[00:12:32] and they've said this quite openly, they do not trust us to
[00:12:36] manage our own national security,
[00:12:39] that is not politicizing the point, that is simply saying that we are no
[00:12:43] longer serious country when it comes to national security, and Nigel
[00:12:47] Farage said that this morning
[00:12:48] and I agree with him, there's a couple couple of things there, I mean firstly
[00:12:51] in in in you know relation to the United States, I think we've all had a graphic example of...
[00:12:55] the last 24 hours about how nobody should be taking
[00:12:58] lectures from the United States on international or national security, but
[00:13:02] again you've perfectly illustrated my point, I mean again, you
[00:13:06] know, global international diplomacy is
[00:13:10] very, very complex, it's very, very complex when you're dealing with
[00:13:14] issues of sort of international
[00:13:17] terrorism, it's very, very complex when you're dealing with the issues we're currently seeing in the
[00:13:21] Middle East, and your exers, your focus..."
[00:13:25] is my handshake, that's just not, it's just not serious,
[00:13:28] sorry, dad, as you know, as you know, symbolism in geopolitics matters a
[00:13:32] great deal, so can you explain the complexity that led the labour
[00:13:36] government, that led the left in this country to essentially
[00:13:39] reward Hamas by recognizing a state while we still had
[00:13:43] Jews in tunnels being held hostage, can you explain the
[00:13:47] complexity that led to Ed Millerband to endorse and legitim
[00:13:51] legitimize the Iranian state that is actively plotting
[00:13:55] terror attacks against our people, I don't think that's complex. I think there's a line, which
[00:13:59] is we don't deal with those people, they're trying to kill us, we don't deal with those people,
[00:14:03] they just murdered 1,200 Jews, and we stand uh with British
[00:14:07] Jews on that issue, and we support the United States of America, because guess what, they've been
[00:14:10] providing our security in this country since the second world war, I
[00:14:14] don't think it is that complex, I mean I'm just curious buse you haven't real, that's absolutely
[00:14:18] right, you don't think it's complex, you think it's all
[00:14:22] very, very simple, I'm just explaining. point rais just just for my
[00:14:26] just so like understand your position, even if these
[00:14:30] Iranians didn't come in on the small boats, can you explain to me
[00:14:33] why
[00:14:34] it is the labour government despite knowing that we are
[00:14:37] importing and we have imported convicted terrorists from Iran,
[00:14:41] from Egypt and elsewhere, why it is the labor government will not
[00:14:45] as a matter of principle control our borders, I'm not politicizing
[00:14:49] it, I'm just asking you a question, why why
[00:14:52] you want to answer the question, I'll answer the question again because...
[00:14:56] as as everyone is aware, the issue of stopping the
[00:14:59] small bones is again a complex issue. If it was simple
[00:15:03] issue, then your colleagues Suella Bravman and Robert Genrick would have
[00:15:07] solved the solved the issue when they were in charge of
[00:15:10] immigration and when that when Suela Bravman
[00:15:14] was was home secretary, and of course they didn't, did
[00:15:18] they? it's it is, I find it absolutely, no, but they didn't, did they?
[00:15:22] you're not disputing not that, disputing
[00:15:23] you're party, the tory party... No, but your
[00:15:25] colleague, I'm
[00:15:27] your question, the tory party refused to solve the issue, which is why
[00:15:31] Suwella and Robert resigned in discussed at what the tory party was
[00:15:34] doing, that is why they left
[00:15:36] the government reality. It's not, but that is that is
[00:15:40] what happened, why they resigned is is is matter of record, neither and the resigned,
[00:15:44] they resigned because they did not believe the tory party was acting in the
[00:15:47] interests the nation, but not in relation to small bones, in relation to
[00:15:51] immigration, absolutely, which is
[00:15:54] in fact both Suella Bravman and Robert Genrick stood at the
[00:15:57] election a conservative manifesto which
[00:16:01] had similar policy on this rather than go look, they've said why they've left the touri
[00:16:05] party, don't dispute, this
[00:16:09] is important, no, no, no, this
[00:16:10] is important, no, because you were just blame, you you're blaming
[00:16:13] labor and theory party, I'm just saying,
[00:16:17] is it not a matter of fact that your current colleague,
[00:16:20] sir, was home secretary at the time, small, a
[00:16:24] tory party that refused to leave the European convention on human rights,
[00:16:28] a tory party that refused to repeal the human rights act in
[00:16:32] a tory party that refused to derogate from the refugee convention, reform
[00:16:36] uk this morning. every single one of those things which you
[00:16:39] need to
[00:16:39] do to stop the boats, you say it's complex, it really is not that complex
[00:16:43] stand, we could stop the boats within a matter of weeks and as I said Matthew, you just again
[00:16:47] European it, everything's simple in your world, I'm just saying
[00:16:51] your colleague suela Bravman who was home secretary didn't find it that
[00:16:55] simple, and your
[00:16:56] colleague Robert Generic who was immigration minister, but the people watching the
[00:17:00] showdown, they're not idiots, they know it was the tory party, not an individual
[00:17:04] that refused to leave the ECHR and deal with.
[00:17:10] you're sitting there saying it was really really simple, really really simple, you know
[00:17:14] and everybody knows it was the tory party as Rishi Sunak himself said on
[00:17:18] Sunday that refused to leave the EC they were they were
[00:17:22] senior ministers in that government, well you are all watching at
[00:17:26] home, you are not idiots - not indeed, who do you blame for this and do you
[00:17:30] actually think that the current government uh will be able to get a grip of it, if
[00:17:34] you are just tuning in uh you're listening and watching to jubes and just been
[00:17:38] talking about Raf Farford there um our prime minister, he gave a
[00:17:41] statement on that today, and what he was saying, and I
[00:17:45] quote,
[00:17:46] I can confirm our our assessment that it is highly
[00:17:49] likely that uh that potential terror flot plot,
[00:17:52] sorry, had been coordinated in Iran, almost certainly
[00:17:56] directed by Iran's Islamic revolutionary guard, he went
[00:18:00] to say we will not tolerate those threats on our soil, we will crack down on
[00:18:03] Iran's use of criminal networks using our full range of powers to target.
[00:18:07] them and their funding streams and you went to say uh that he was
[00:18:11] announcing further sanctions and also at the top the program if you
[00:18:15] just tuned in you will have missed perhaps our home secretary giving announcement
[00:18:19] there when it comes safety in public officer police
[00:18:23] protection will now be expanded to people
[00:18:26] beyond just serving MPs there will also be a public
[00:18:29] inquiry into the heaten park uh attack there at
[00:18:33] that synagogue and of course you mentioned David Amos as well do "It
[00:18:37] was half decade, this week, as it happens, uh, that
[00:18:41] David Ammis was murdered. Uh, we've got that review as well,
[00:18:45] Robert Buckland, he was commissioned in March to commence that
[00:18:49] review. I do find myself uh, wondering how many
[00:18:52] reviews, how many root and branch uh, investigations do
[00:18:56] we need on these kind of things? Uh, the announcement today
[00:19:00] that there will be uh, Sir Stephen Lovegrove, he will be conducting
[00:19:04] review, that one set to report back in six months." What
[00:19:07] do you make to it all? There are so many things we need to discuss tonight. You will have
[00:19:11] seen Reform UK. They've announced a new plan when it comes to
[00:19:15] Asylum. I want to talk to you about that, and so much
[00:19:18] more. Not least, you've just been mentioning the US there, they plan to live stream an
[00:19:22] execution. Uh, would you support that? I want to talk to you about
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[00:22:50] Hello everyone, welcome back, Jub's Ancer, Michelle Jubery, Mack Goodwin, Dan
[00:22:53] Hodges with you until 7 o'clock tonight, uh, so we've just been
[00:22:57] hearing then the home secretary talking about national security
[00:23:01] and security in public office, I'll tell you someone else that was talking about
[00:23:05] national security as well today, that was reform UK, they - did a press
[00:23:09] conference making announcement today that if they got into uh
[00:23:13] office, what they would essentially do is they'll call it shut down,
[00:23:17] press pause on the asylum system for a parliament. term:
[00:23:21] let's just have a little listen to Nigel Farage: all we're asking
[00:23:24] here is for normality, all we're asking here is
[00:23:28] for normal service to be resumed,
[00:23:32] and so yes, we will end the asylum system
[00:23:36] for up to five years, and why are we going to do that? because we're
[00:23:40] in the most terrible mess as a country, we literally have
[00:23:44] no idea who is here, and we
[00:23:47] frankly can't afford...
[00:23:50] to take the risk, well given your allegiance with reform, I'll start
[00:23:54] with you, um, your thoughts today, well I agree that absolutely
[00:23:58] everything Nigel Farage said this morning, I think we are a state of
[00:24:01] national emergency, we don't know who's coming into the country, we don't control our
[00:24:05] borders, even the BBC and Home Office whistleblowers has
[00:24:09] reported in the Times newspaper say the system is in
[00:24:13] complete chaos, we had that revelation only two weeks ago from somebody who's
[00:24:17] working asylum claims that only one in every
[00:24:20] 100 is legitimate, the BBC has revealed that
[00:24:24] lawyers are gaming the system, telling asylum seekers and illegal
[00:24:28] migrants, how to basically exploit the generosity the
[00:24:32] British people, and all of this is costing, everybody out there
[00:24:36] watching this show, billions and billions of pounds that should be
[00:24:40] going into our schools, our hospitals, building prisons
[00:24:44] and our infrastructure, I think Nigel Farage is absolutely right, I think we've
[00:24:48] done an enormous amount for Ukrainians, 'we've done an enormous amount for Hong
[00:24:51] Kongers, we've done an enormous amount for people from other parts the world, but it is
[00:24:55] time now to put the British people where they belong, which is
[00:24:59] first and Rogers, yeah, I mean we saw uh
[00:25:03] Nigel there saying
[00:25:04] you know this is about the the crisis in the the the immigration system and the
[00:25:08] asylum system is not really it, it's actually about the
[00:25:11] crisis that is currently facing reform and the
[00:25:15] ongoing collapse in reforms poll rating in
[00:25:19] general and in specifically the political
[00:25:22] threat that that Nigel Farage and Matthew and others
[00:25:26] see from restore who are currently eating
[00:25:29] into what's left of of reforms pole
[00:25:33] rating, so this is just the latest sort of iteration
[00:25:37] their policy, I mean I think last time I was in this studio we had a big launch
[00:25:41] of what was it, what was it called, it had the big glossy thing
[00:25:44] operation something or other and you had a big aircraft carrier on the front the
[00:25:48] brochure and that was going to solve the problem. and obviously that didn't have any
[00:25:51] effect on on on on reforms pull rating, so we've got this, so we've got
[00:25:55] this policy here which now involves, and I think it's important
[00:25:59] to stress this, not.
[00:26:02] targeting people who are trying to abuse the asylum
[00:26:05] system, but the first time I've heard this from any sort of political
[00:26:09] party other than maybe the national front or the BMP,
[00:26:13] sending back to oppressive regimes to murder and
[00:26:17] torture people are genuine, that's not
[00:26:21] true, that is your policy, no it's not, if the countries are deemed
[00:26:24] not safe, yeah, they were very clear this morning, our document is very clear, they
[00:26:28] will be sent to third country processing,
[00:26:32] why are all these third countries going to accept that? what we're back to third countries. it's
[00:26:36] it's interesting how dismissive you are of this idea. do you know who else is backing that idea?
[00:26:40] who else is backing that did? greece, Denmark,
[00:26:44] Germany, Italy, something that lot of reforms
[00:26:47] critics now ignore is that many EU member states now
[00:26:51] guess where they want to send illegal migrants down to Rwanda, so
[00:26:55] wait second, so wait second, but just to be clear on the policy,
[00:26:58] if the third, these magical third countries
[00:27:02] are going to absorb these migrants that we don't want, don't
[00:27:06] want them, then you will have to return to their countries of
[00:27:09] origin,
[00:27:11] right? no, we will send them to third country pr,
[00:27:14] i just said, i just said there were going to be lots of countries down, we had we just almost had an
[00:27:18] agreement with one, we just almost had an agreement with an agreement,
[00:27:22] rwanda, we almost had an agreement, you haven't got an agreement, you're actually saying
[00:27:25] that, wait second, no, no, no, this is interesting, you're
[00:27:29] actually sitting there now and you're telling people watching this program that
[00:27:33] your solution is to send them to Rwanda, the person who sat
[00:27:37] here, well you did, you just said Rwanda, no, I didn't say that, listen to me, okay, so what's the
[00:27:41] country, listen to me carefully, I am listening, I'm listening very questioning
[00:27:45] the pre, you're questioning the premise that we cannot
[00:27:48] send illegal, that we can send illegal migrants and asylums to
[00:27:52] third countries, reminder if I can finish my point please, please do,
[00:27:56] Greece is doing it, Denmark is doing it, Italy is doing it, Germany is doing it, the
[00:28:00] European Union is doing it, in which case? Hodges, if we cannot
[00:28:04] actually send illegal migrants and asylum seekers who are costing us
[00:28:08] billions of pounds to third countries, you better tell all of Europe,
[00:28:12] because they are currently planning on doing so, including you want to name countries,
[00:28:16] Uganda and Rwanda, and why did the tori party not
[00:28:20] not be able to pursue with Rwanda, because we were still in the European
[00:28:23] convention on human rights and what is reform going to do, leave the
[00:28:27] European convention on human right, you just announced the policy and you've
[00:28:30] said fundamental part. the policy is sending them to
[00:28:34] third - sort of third party, well ideally sending them
[00:28:38] back to the countries they came from, but if those countries are deemed unsafe, they will
[00:28:42] have to go to a third country center, third country for processing,
[00:28:46] right? so which third country have you got an agreement with? well, wel strike agreements
[00:28:50] with those countries, like much of so you haven't got any agreements, like much of
[00:28:54] Europe is currently negotiating the same agreements down, you're being
[00:28:57] fesitous, you
[00:28:58] know,
[00:29:03] I'm sorry,
[00:29:03] I'm not going
[00:29:03] to have, I'm not going to have a whole debate about a mythical,
[00:29:06] hypothetical third country, I thought you wouldn't want to, the
[00:29:10] debate down, I'm sorry, this,
[00:29:12] it's a mythical third country, in which case, in which case I suggest going to Brussels and
[00:29:16] Strasburg and having exactly the same conversation with Germany,
[00:29:19] Italy, Greece, much of Europe is now coming to the same point that
[00:29:23] Nigel Farage was making five years ago, which is that we
[00:29:26] need safe countries where we can send illegal
[00:29:30] migrants so they are not put into the...
[00:29:34] at the moment, your word, not mine, at the moment it's a mythical third
[00:29:38] country, is that correct? you haven't actually gotten agreement about the third country you're going to send these
[00:29:42] people, dan we will strike agreements with countries, you haven't, you haven't today
[00:29:46] is what i'm saying, well they're not in power, which countries are going to be
[00:29:49] striking,
[00:29:57] hang on, respond, yes, but i also want to
[00:30:01] bring it into... day as well, because we're currently talking about third
[00:30:05] countries and people that are not yet in power, what's wrong with sending people
[00:30:09] back to their country of origin? what is wrong with sending
[00:30:13] genuine asylum seekers back to their country of origin? yes, well,
[00:30:17] because they'll be murdered and tortured, michelle, not always, so hold on then, because I want to
[00:30:20] explore this thought, so you must be livided with the current labor government then,
[00:30:24] because Shaban Mahmoud, there's a case going through at the moment where
[00:30:28] you've got a guy from Syria who is a plastic surgeon.
[00:30:32] 'who came into this country multiple years ago with his wife and his children, they're all
[00:30:36] settled here, and the UK government have now uh announced that
[00:30:39] he's having his refugee
[00:30:41] pr protection removed and he's got to go back to Syria, well that's presumably
[00:30:45] because he's it's been deemed he's not a genuine refugee,
[00:30:49] but policy hold on,
[00:30:52] this
[00:30:53] is this is very important because what I'm trying to do is I'm trying to get away from the
[00:30:57] party political fighting and I'm trying to focus on
[00:31:00] specifics of what is going on'. here, so Syria, when you look
[00:31:04] at Syria,
[00:31:05] the the foreign office say
[00:31:06] that you shouldn't travel to Syria, we shouldn't travel to Syria because of volatile
[00:31:10] security situations, the UN refugee body um
[00:31:13] says it's basically very... unsafe and all the rest of it, but there is case going through the courts right now, it's
[00:31:17] a Syrian guy, is a plastic surgeon in this country, he arrived in
[00:31:21] the UK in 2016, he lives in London with his wife and six children, and
[00:31:25] he's received a letter from the home office saying his refugee
[00:31:28] protection has been cancelled, and what they're basically
[00:31:32] saying um is that now the Assad regime has fallen,
[00:31:36] it should be saved for this Japanese family to go back, this has been
[00:31:40] widely reported in places like the Guardian and all the rest of it,
[00:31:44] so what would... you say to that then? well, i've just said it,
[00:31:47] that the point is that the assad regime, ye, he was
[00:31:50] fleeing, has fallen, so obviously the sad
[00:31:54] regime and no longer a threat to him, what Matthew's party's
[00:31:58] policy is, as I said, and he's admitted it, I haven't
[00:32:01] add anything done, well no, you have, well this point, should people go back to
[00:32:05] Syria, should we send asylum seekers and refugees in
[00:32:08] Britain back to Syria, it's simple question, yes or
[00:32:11] no, uh, should should people be sent back?
[00:32:16] just about that, I'm just about to answer you, you go through case by case basis, if they
[00:32:20] have genuine fear of persecution, you don't send them back, if they
[00:32:24] don't have genuine fear of persecution, no, he has fear of persecution, this guy, this is
[00:32:28] why it's going through the courts now, but the point is he will have to
[00:32:31] demonstrate that if he's sent back to Syria he will face ajonion threat
[00:32:35] of persecution, now if the reason he was here in the first place was he
[00:32:38] fast persecution from the assad regime and as he said the assad
[00:32:42] regime no longer exists then that is why i presume his case
[00:32:46] is now under question, that is separate from what Matt's policy and
[00:32:50] reforms policy is, which is even people who are
[00:32:54] proven to have genuine, genuine and
[00:32:57] existing fear of persecution should be sent
[00:33:00] back. i think you need to have a conversation with Germany, dam, because
[00:33:04] they have just decided over the last couple of days. in Germany should i have the conversation
[00:33:08] with that, because Germany has just decided
[00:33:12] in the last couple of days to send back, Syrians
[00:33:16] that have come into Germany since 2015 because Syria is now
[00:33:19] deemed safe country, in fact Germany
[00:33:23] is also that's not your policy, in fact
[00:33:25] Germany, that's not your policy, can I finish, you asked me about
[00:33:29] sending people back safe countries and sending people back to countries that might have
[00:33:33] not once upon a time be considered safe, Germany's even sending people back to
[00:33:37] Afghanistan, party's policy
[00:33:40] is, your party's policy, no let me let me
[00:33:44] finish it. people to accept people from all over the world, before you
[00:33:48] go into the party polical speech, let me just make
[00:33:50] this point, just because I'm going to
[00:33:51] have to explain to you what your policy is, before today your party's policy
[00:33:55] was we will send back people who are not genuine asylum seekers,
[00:33:59] your party's policy today, we've just had the press conference is you
[00:34:02] will send back people who are genuine asylum seekers, do you
[00:34:06] understand the difference, dan you're being deliberately faces, you missed out the key, just literally
[00:34:10] told you what your policy is, do you generally not know what
[00:34:13] your own party policy is? 'two
[00:34:16] countries that are deemed safe, to countries that are deemed safe,
[00:34:20] do you understand that point, dan do you want me to write it down for you? yeah, there's safe countries, but you're
[00:34:24] saying
[00:34:25] you will dep, you're saying you'll deport people from
[00:34:28] countries that are still not deemed safe, what do you make to all ladies
[00:34:32] and gen sorry, did you generally not realize that what's you're doing, you're being
[00:34:36] completely disingenuous and people at home will be able to see what the policy
[00:34:40] is, we will send people back to countries that are deemed safe, countries that are not deemed safe,
[00:34:44] those people be sent to third country processing centers, that's not
[00:34:48] particularly complex, Dan, I know you struggle with big words. Uh, excuse me, we do
[00:34:51] respectful
[00:34:52] to bit on this program. Thank you very much, and the respectful debate will
[00:34:56] continue after the break, there are so many things that we need to discuss, ladies and
[00:34:59] gents, not least, there's a video of something
[00:35:02] and I will play it for you after the break, it's really divided opinion, you'll have strong opinions on
[00:35:06] it yourself, I'll have all of that and more after the
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[00:39:05] hello
[00:39:11] everyone, welcome back, i can tell you it's been spicy in this break, ladies
[00:39:14] and gents, these two have not let up, if you're just tuning in, you're missing
[00:39:18] - cracking debate tonight, dan hodgis and matt goodwin keeping you
[00:39:22] company until 7 o'clock tonight, lords we need to get through, let me
[00:39:26] just show you a little clip that's divided at the internet today, it
[00:39:30] really annoyed me when i saw it last night, have a little look, it involves
[00:39:33] footballer, take a
[00:39:35] watch,
[00:39:39] please,
[00:39:49] please, oh, i'm sorry, but as moment to a little boy that broke my heart, you got a little
[00:39:53] kid uh, encountering his idol, he's got - parma written on the...
[00:39:57] back of his Chelsea share at Cole Palma that couldn't even be bothered
[00:40:01] even to say hello, I'm going to try and squeeze few minutes in before the end the program, see what you
[00:40:05] think to that, but before I do, something else that's really got you all divided, I hate to
[00:40:09] break it to get it in hats on because it involves the EU. Let's take a
[00:40:13] listen to what Andy Bernam had to say on recent
[00:40:17] podcast. I've asked the question myself coming
[00:40:20] in uh to this role cuz I gave a speech to the UN recently on
[00:40:24] this very topic, I don't think we knew back then the... extent to which there
[00:40:28] was state-sponsored interference in the British
[00:40:31] Democratic process, but I asked the question coming into Downing Street,
[00:40:35] well was there interference in the 2016
[00:40:39] referendum from Russia, and I've had the clear answer that yes there
[00:40:42] was, the sponsored interference from Russia, when it comes to Brexit, then listen to what
[00:40:46] Andy Bernam said today, I implied no such
[00:40:49] thing in my comments on the uh Restis politics
[00:40:53] podcast, I think she should go back and and look...
[00:40:57] again, it is matter of record, Mr. Speaker, that Russian
[00:41:01] actors sought to interfere in the
[00:41:04] 29 general election, and we think it is
[00:41:08] inconceivable that this was the first
[00:41:12] time, and
[00:41:13] I do have to say there was only like matter of hours between those two things taking place,
[00:41:17] the podcast and then
[00:41:17] that uh so-called clarification statement in the comments uh,
[00:41:21] really, I mean, where where do we even start with this? first and foremost, Andy
[00:41:25] Benham did suggest, I mean, I've literally... cleared the clip that there was Russian
[00:41:28] interference in Brexit, so why then suggest that he didn't?
[00:41:32] yeah, i we were talking about this off there, i'm surprised
[00:41:36] he's got himself in such a mess on this one, because mean i i i
[00:41:40] think the thing is in the clip he said there was Russian interference
[00:41:44] in Brexit and there was Russian interference in why
[00:41:48] didn't I said it buse anyone was work said that I think I think
[00:41:52] the point is we've now moved from was there Russian interference in
[00:41:55] Brexit to was the interference
[00:41:58] successful and did the interference
[00:42:02] effectively and significantly influence or determine the vote and the
[00:42:05] reality is it didn't I mean I don't think anybody I mean
[00:42:09] this is the one think that me and Matt would would agree on, um,
[00:42:13] I don't think anyone really seriously thinks that that the Brexit
[00:42:17] result was was a was a product of of the Russians, but
[00:42:20] equally, it's it, it's foolish to deny, we had, we opened the program looking at the
[00:42:24] threats we're facing from from foreign states, obviously we focused
[00:42:28] lot, focused lot on Iran, um, but
[00:42:32] Russia is a threat a major and and direct threat, obviously we had
[00:42:36] the incident of obviously the fire bomb attacks on Kier Starmer's House.
[00:42:40] "um, we've obviously had the Sulsbury issue and and other issues, so
[00:42:44] Russia is is major threat, but as I said, I'm not entirely sure
[00:42:47] why
[00:42:49] on the head of a pin over whether he said you know it was, it was
[00:42:53] interference or whether it it's very strange, it's very
[00:42:56] strange goings on, um, anyway, your thoughts,
[00:42:59] just the idea that there was Russian misinformation that led
[00:43:03] people to vote for Brexit is utterly absurd, as I think everybody knows,
[00:43:07] people wanted less migration, control their borders, sovereignty." independence, the
[00:43:11] European Union is not a democratic organization, and as we can see now,
[00:43:14] 10 years on, it's just not working, mass rights and Spain,
[00:43:18] Belgium, France is on the cusp of major sovereign debt crisis, the
[00:43:22] EU is divided, it's a declining share the world economy, but what
[00:43:26] Burnham's doing, and you got to understand what he's doing here is
[00:43:29] something else, this narrative of Russian misinformation
[00:43:33] is like catnip to greens, to labour voters, to some
[00:43:37] Libdem voters, it's true, I just finish. can i just
[00:43:41] i'm just saying
[00:43:42] you wouldn't deny that rusformation in the same way that
[00:43:46] i would also say labor labor parties involved in spreading a lot of
[00:43:49] misinformation about migration in the borders, but one the things i want one
[00:43:53] the things one the things i
[00:43:55] want to get across is what he's doing is he's rolling the
[00:43:59] pitch, he's going on podcasts like rest his politics and then he went on
[00:44:03] another prominent left-wing podcast, he's rolling the pitch to
[00:44:06] get left-wing voters to unify around him, that's why he's saying
[00:44:09] rejoin the. 'eu, that's why he's being pro Gaza, that's why he's softened immigration
[00:44:13] restrictions, that's why he's going for proportional representation, so to people on the right of
[00:44:17] politics watching this show, you got to see the game here that's going on, he's rolling the
[00:44:21] pitch for early election and he's hoping to exploit the
[00:44:25] fact that the right is divided right, conservative reform to
[00:44:29] much much lesser extent restore everybody needs to understand the game that
[00:44:32] Burnham is playing, the only party in this country that is
[00:44:36] spreading mass misinformation is the labour government'.
[00:44:40] which on
[00:44:40] the one hand is saying don't worry about immigration, but on the other hand we're
[00:44:43] going to hand out lets to migrants saying please don't hurt people
[00:44:46] question, we we had discussion before when as i said we were talking
[00:44:50] about you know foreign threats and misinformation, why do you find
[00:44:54] it so hard to acknowledge and condemn the
[00:44:58] the Russia threat and Russia misinformation? I don't, what I struggle with is the way in which
[00:45:02] people on the left for much the last 10 years
[00:45:04] have been pedling narratives okay, but you're not you're not doing it, I mean you just said that
[00:45:08] the work. information misinformation is coming
[00:45:11] from, listen to me, listen to me, listen to me carefully, can put it in the on
[00:45:15] lights behind my back, russia spreads misinformation, so does Iran, so
[00:45:19] does China, but listen to me, this well, listen to me,
[00:45:23] you know what this labor government is doing, it is lecturing people about misinformation,
[00:45:27] while not even giving them the information about what is going on in our own country,
[00:45:31] now I don't want to see a government do that either, it's telling us, don't worry about this
[00:45:34] stuff going on in the channel, and at the same time giving illegal migrants
[00:45:38] leat saying please don't rape, attack, murder British people, who's
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[00:46:05] Russia misinformation narrative is about, it's about discrediting the Brexit
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[00:46:11] you just said 10 seconds ago you said you'd put up in nean lights, it
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[00:49:57] hello everyone, welcome back, now you all know that i have very strong opinions on the death
[00:50:01] penalty, but let ask you this: do you think there should ever be an
[00:50:04] occasion where the uh death penalty is
[00:50:08] live streamed for anyone and everyone presumably to be able to
[00:50:12] access? this is what's been proposed over in America uh,
[00:50:16] there's
[00:50:16] one guy, Nidal Hassan, he, you will remember this case, I'm sure it
[00:50:20] went back years ago, now 2000... nine he killed multiple
[00:50:24] servicemen and one civilian. anyway, they've now decided he
[00:50:28] will be executed by firing squad on the 3rd of
[00:50:31] December, but publicly streamable. what do you think to
[00:50:35] that? well, mean it's it's it's just disgusting isn't it?
[00:50:39] mean, but yeah, that's unfortunately the nature of
[00:50:42] of of you know the the administration we've got in the
[00:50:46] United States at the moment, mean i saw um who's at
[00:50:49] Hesgith, you know,
[00:50:51] you know, announced. in this and he was actually grinning when he when he announced it, mean it's just
[00:50:55] cuuse they feel very strongly um about this in the uh in
[00:50:59] America, he was the the perpetrator was a former
[00:51:03] army uh major, what um people like Marco Rubio
[00:51:07] would say is that they want the reason that they're proposing this is that they want to send a really harsh
[00:51:11] message, um you will never do this to our troops
[00:51:14] and if you do, this is what's coming your way, yeah, but at the same time the
[00:51:18] last time I remember executions being spread across...
[00:51:22] media and televised and publicized was when ISIS were doing
[00:51:26] all kinds of absolute atrocities in the Middle East, and
[00:51:29] I do think that, we we we have to try and hold ourselves
[00:51:33] to a higher standard than Barbarians like
[00:51:37] the Deathcult ISIS, and if
[00:51:41] Americans want to use the death penalty, okay, use
[00:51:43] the death penalty, but I'm not sure where the public live
[00:51:47] streaming aspect comes into this, I don't particularly support
[00:51:50] it, um, I do think that... more broadly, we need to work lot harder to clamp down
[00:51:54] on Islamism, get Islamists out of western nations, do what the European
[00:51:58] Parliament has suggested this week, which is ban the Muslim brotherhood, there you go,
[00:52:02] again ideas that started in Britain are now... influencing the European
[00:52:06] Parliament, but I'm not sure live execution executions are the way to go. Even for
[00:52:10] me, I think that live streaming it might be a bit much. You've got so many young people
[00:52:14] and all the rest of it, you don't want them exposed to extreme violence. When you
[00:52:17] expose, particularly young impressionable minds to extreme
[00:52:20] violence, you decentratize uh people against all of those
[00:52:24] things and I'm not really sure that is the right idea uh to be going down. John says he
[00:52:28] absolutely doesn't support it and it should never be turned into
[00:52:32] entertainment uh he says. tell you what's
[00:52:35] been entertaining many people, that is the debate about this footage, let me show you
[00:52:39] very quickly, coal palmer, chelsea player
[00:52:42] watch,
[00:52:49] please,
[00:52:51] please,
[00:52:55] so that's a little boy, he's got cold palmer uh, his palm's name on his share,
[00:52:59] he encounters cole palma after the game at the weekend, he just wants a bit of
[00:53:03] paper signing, you know what, um, I just think Cole Pama, you're an
[00:53:06] absolute douch bag, you seem to be forgetting the kind of people who put you
[00:53:10] where you are. now, a little boy, you're obviously his hero is
[00:53:14] wearing your name for goodness sakes, even hello, just simple smile
[00:53:18] would do, would it not? yeah,
[00:53:21] so I certainly think some acknowledgement, I mean the one thing I would say is we, we didn't see the first half of
[00:53:25] that, I don't, he may well have prior to that have stopped to to to
[00:53:28] deliver autographs and and and the problem is in in in that sort of scenario, if he stopped
[00:53:32] for somebody then he's going to get 'then he's he's going to get
[00:53:36] mobbed, I don't where he was going, I mean, I think, you you you know
[00:53:40] what it's like, I mean it is, you know, there's nice things about being famous and
[00:53:44] and and sometimes it can be less less
[00:53:48] nice, I know, but little kids, I mean
[00:53:51] I think you know just smile or a tap on the shoulder or something would
[00:53:55] have would hodges and I agree, oh my goodness,
[00:53:59] goodness, stop this program now, smile and nod is not too
[00:54:03] much to ask for, particularly when kids are inb'. 'well
[00:54:05] we got there in the end, Charlotte says Michelle, you've been very unfair on Cole Palma, parents
[00:54:09] should teach their child to respect people's privacy and not pester
[00:54:13] people, Christine says too many people selling autographs these days, spoils it for
[00:54:17] the genuine fans uh, ladies and gents, if you've got a young kid, do
[00:54:21] everything that you can to try and prevent them from idolizing these
[00:54:25] over-peared uh young men who are just literally kicking
[00:54:29] football around, because when I see stuff like that nobody wants to be mobbed, no
[00:54:33] one wants to be disturbed all the time, but 'if you don't have it in your soul
[00:54:36] even smile and say hello to a little boy that idolizes
[00:54:40] you, I pity you, that's all I've got to say, anyway, glad we ended
[00:54:44] a note of agreement, thanks chaps, have a good night, I'll see you tomorrow and
[00:54:47] night,
[00:54:52] expect warm spells with the odd rude
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[00:56:10] skies brightening pretty rapidly here, but then more showers packing into
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