GEONEWS — broadcast 20260806 000000 UTC 415 transcript segments Google Cloud Speech-to-Text API (Chirp) + Gemini 2.5 Flash Non-Thinking Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:00:30] Iran cannot have nuclear weapons. Iran's [00:00:32] Deputy Foreign Minister Kazem Garibabadi has said [00:00:38] that the understanding between Iran and Oman on the Strait of Hormuz is in its [00:00:41] final stages. A significant portion of the shipping route will pass [00:00:45] through Iranian waters. The new model will be different [00:00:49] So do we want from the arrangement that has been in place for the past 60 years. [00:00:52] The Iran-Oman understanding does not mean that the Strait of Hormuz will be completely opened. [00:00:55] There are indications from America that it is ready to act again on its promises. [00:01:00] The issue of transit fees from ships will depend [00:01:03] in the protest of Tehreek-e-Insaf, on the decisions of the Iranian leadership and American attitude. [00:01:05] Iran's President Masoud Pezeshkian has said that America thought that through war [00:01:09] and sanctions, [00:01:12] At that time, it was Mr. Bappy's like Syria, the government in Iran would also be overthrown, [00:01:16] but it failed. The new Supreme Leader has made [00:01:20] and besides them, Iran united and strong. Contact with the suspected Khamenei is very [00:01:23] difficult, but his presence is a source [00:01:27] of extraordinary strength for the Iranian people. Federal Interior Minister Mohsin Naqvi has said [00:01:30] that the government will complete its five years. [00:01:34] Shehbaz Sharif will remain Prime Minister for five years. [00:01:34] Whatever people do, [00:01:39] they will complete their term. In an interview with Geo News, he said [00:01:43] that he still stands by his statement that the system has been destroyed. [00:01:47] I said that the system has been destroyed for 80 years. [00:01:50] If the Prime Minister had got a good system, [00:01:54] he would have taken this country forward very quickly. [00:01:58] We will advise the Prime Minister to review the performance [00:02:02] of all federal cabinet ministers. Get the performance checked [00:02:05] by a third party. Today, the price of petrol has been increased [00:02:08] by 4 rupees and 45 paisa per liter. [00:02:12] The new price of petrol has been fixed [00:02:22] Maulana Fazlur Rehman Sahib at 333 rupees and one paisa per liter. [00:02:25] Meteorology says that [00:02:28] weak. [00:02:43] whether he made this statement [00:03:08] Auzubillahiminashaitanirrajeem BismillahirRahmanirRahim. is not able to do anything. [00:03:20] of a Hazara province, [00:03:26] We do not know the number of people arrested, [00:03:41] in Punjab, [00:04:07] including MNAs and MPAs. Call a meeting of the entire opposition [00:04:10] at the national level [00:04:11] to remedy these crises. [00:04:15] We are here. On August 7, Inshallah, [00:04:18] all major highways of Pakistan [00:04:20] will be closed. [00:04:23] In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful. [00:04:27] Assalam-o-Alaikum. Today, Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf [00:04:32] had announced protests across the country because three years have passed since [00:04:35] the arrest of its founding chairman Imran Khan. [00:04:39] There was a rally in Peshawar. There were also protests [00:04:41] in various cities including Lahore and Karachi. [00:04:44] There were also arrests. But one of the most important [00:04:47] things we have noted is that [00:04:50] just as the Punjab Police in Lahore, [00:04:54] that is, the government of PML-N, [00:04:57] There are debates on it. took Tehreek-e-Insaf to task, similarly, [00:05:00] the Sindh Police in Karachi, that is, the PPP government, [00:05:03] also took Tehreek-e-Insaf workers to task in Karachi, [00:05:07] and one incident that also happened [00:05:10] was that while arresting the lawyers [00:05:14] in Lahore, the Lahore Police also thrashed [00:05:17] the journalists. So today, [00:05:21] in various cities of Pakistan, we saw that [00:05:25] tear gas shells were also being fired, journalists were being beaten, [00:05:28] and the debate on new provinces was quite active today. [00:05:31] But obviously, there is still discussion on it, [00:05:35] and Jamaat-e-Islami has announced to block all roads [00:05:38] of Pakistan on August 7. Transporters have called for [00:05:44] a strike across the country on August 8. So where are these matters going? [00:05:48] To discuss this, we have with us Rana Sanaullah Sahib, Advisor to the Prime Minister [00:05:51] for Political Affairs. We have Senator Palwasha Khan [00:05:55] representing Pakistan People's Party in the studio, and Mr. Senator Awais Bappy [00:05:59] Sahib is representing Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf. [00:06:02] So Rana Sanaullah Sahib, my question to you is [00:06:06] that in the debate on new provinces, it seemed that [00:06:10] there were quite a few differences between PPP and PML-N, [00:06:13] but today, [00:06:15] whether it was in Lahore or Karachi [00:06:19] or anywhere else, PML-N and PPP [00:06:23] seemed quite united in suppressing Tehreek-e-Insaf. [00:06:26] Both provincial governments took Tehreek-e-Insaf to task quite harshly. [00:06:30] Will it be the same in the future? Yes, [00:06:34] exactly. If someone [00:06:38] creates a law and order situation, then the provincial governments, [00:06:41] because they are responsible for law and order, should deal with such people [00:06:45] who interfere in maintaining peace [00:06:48] and order, according to the law. I don't say [00:06:51] that they should be taken to task or how, [00:06:55] but they should be dealt with according to the law and rules. [00:06:58] Alright, Palwasha Khan Sahiba, [00:07:02] differences aside, in the Azad Kashmir elections, [00:07:05] PPP and PML-N made strong statements against each other. [00:07:09] Today, they seem united against Tehreek-e-Insaf. No, look, there is no [00:07:13] alliance. This is a situation. [00:07:17] A situation arose in both places, and if [00:07:20] there were clashes with the police, [00:07:24] that is also a part of protests these days. But anyway, there was no [00:07:28] talk of uniting. Our internal differences, [00:07:32] whether it's elections or any other matter, [00:07:35] they are still there. They have nothing to do [00:07:39] with any protest of Tehreek-e-Insaf at this time. So they are standing on their own. Alright, so there was no [00:07:43] rhetoric today, anyway. Alright, so Awais Bappy Sahib, [00:07:47] what do you think? Tehreek-e-Insaf had called for protests today. [00:07:51] How successful were you? And many people ask this question [00:07:55] that Tehreek-e-Insaf, despite having a government [00:07:58] in one province, is unable to stage a big protest, [00:08:01] whereas in Azad Kashmir, people have been protesting [00:08:05] for many months. They don't have any government behind them, [00:08:08] nothing. They have been at it for so many months, [00:08:12] but Tehreek-e-Insaf [00:08:16] What is the reason for this? [00:08:20] Mir Sahib, one thing is at least confirmed that it has been proven [00:08:24] that what Bilawal Bhutto Zardari Sahib had stated that this is a product [00:08:27] of Form 47, what Rana Sanaullah Sahib and Khawaja Asif Sahib [00:08:31] had stated that if you want to find corruption of billions, [00:08:34] you should point towards PPP and said [00:08:36] that find it from them, but at least both parties agree [00:08:40] that if anyone protests in Punjab, [00:08:44] they will be dealt with harshly. They agree on this, [00:08:47] that alright, we might be thieves, some might be vote thieves, [00:08:51] some might be money thieves, but at least Tehreek-e-Insaf, [00:08:55] if it is not allowed, [00:08:59] because this is probably against human rights and it is [00:09:02] a terrorist organization. As far as Kashmir is concerned, [00:09:06] Mir Sahib, the comparison is a bit different. When it comes to Kashmir, [00:09:10] perhaps these May 9th incidents are not there yet. We have been treated [00:09:20] the way PTI has been treated for three years. [00:09:24] This has never happened to any political party in the history of Pakistan. [00:09:27] We have been labeled as terrorists, [00:09:31] and any kind of excuse me, [00:09:35] even today, if we want to hold a rally at Minar-e-Pakistan in Lahore, [00:09:39] we cannot get permission, because we are not even a party. [00:09:42] We don't have a bat symbol, we are not registered with the Election Commission, [00:09:46] and when Imran Khan's name is taken in the Senate and National Assembly, [00:09:50] it is also beeped out. So for a party that does not have [00:09:53] so much freedom, it is hard to compare. [00:09:57] The second thing you said, how was the protest today? [00:10:01] I think perhaps there could not have been [00:10:05] better protests than this. You see, [00:10:08] the way PTI has resisted in three years [00:10:12] in this country, where we were not given [00:10:16] even a bit of political space by the powers that be. [00:10:20] If you look back at history, when PML-N faced hard times, [00:10:24] in some form or another, [00:10:32] in some way or another, this entire system is facing [00:10:36] it. Even now, if the system is fighting and quarreling somewhere, [00:10:40] in the form of opposition, they have only one system challenge, [00:10:43] and that is Imran Khan. And one last question, [00:10:47] Mir Sahib, I ask a question. We have spent three years. [00:10:51] Khan Sahib has spent three years in jail. Today's protest was not [00:10:55] because he has been kept in solitary confinement for three years. [00:10:58] The suffering of solitary confinement, perhaps no ordinary person can explain it. [00:11:02] I was watching the wife who was arrested [00:11:06] in Vietnam, in Myanmar. I was watching that the UN people [00:11:09] went to meet her, human rights people were going to meet her, [00:11:13] and the world expressed sorrow that, see, she was kept alone. [00:11:17] Alright, I would request Rana Sanaullah Sahib [00:11:20] to please tell me, [00:11:22] Rana Sahib, if you don't mind, have you ever been in solitary confinement? [00:11:26] What is solitary confinement like? Do you have any experience? [00:11:28] Yes, exactly. I have been in solitary confinement. [00:11:32] I stayed in Camp Jail for almost seven months. [00:11:37] government, and apart from my family, [00:11:40] that is, my wife, daughter, son, [00:11:45] no one could meet me in seven months, [00:11:49] and even among them, there used to be a gap [00:11:52] of 15-15 days, 20-20 days. [00:11:56] So we have tasted all these eras, [00:11:59] all these flavors, but we never [00:12:02] sat in jail and compromised [00:12:06] the institutions or the security of the country, [00:12:09] or conspired against it. [00:12:12] Alright, the situation [00:12:16] that the founder of PTI is facing, [00:12:20] also see what he was doing in jail. [00:12:24] What kind of things he was doing [00:12:27] against the country and against the country's institutions. [00:12:31] So on that basis, the ban was imposed, [00:12:35] and even now, if they want, [00:12:38] the matter can be resolved. Alright, [00:12:41] now Palwasha Khan Sahiba, let's talk about new provinces. [00:12:47] has very good relations with the People's Party, [00:12:50] and Bilawal Sahib and Mohsin Naqvi Sahib as well. [00:12:54] He made a very interesting statement. Please listen. [00:12:57] Mr. Naqvi is our protégé, [00:13:00] but he has matured [00:13:03] a bit too soon. Now it is not known [00:13:08] in his personal capacity, but how is it possible [00:13:11] to make a statement in a personal capacity when he is currently a member [00:13:15] of the cabinet? Creating provinces is not a bad thing, [00:13:18] except for the fact that it distracts people [00:13:22] from the problems and difficulties that the public [00:13:25] is facing, and the unrest [00:13:29] that is making life difficult. Every day a new issue is raised, [00:13:32] and then there is a discussion on it. This has happened many times before. [00:13:36] Alright, now my question to you is that the People's Party [00:13:40] supports the creation of a South Punjab province and also supports the creation [00:13:45] but when MQM says [00:13:47] to create provinces in Sindh as well, it opposes it. [00:13:51] So what is your policy now? Look, as far as [00:13:55] this South Punjab province is concerned, as far as I remember, [00:13:59] their assembly passed the resolution, which is the method written in the constitution. [00:14:02] So, when a method is prescribed for something, [00:14:05] if we try to impose something by bypassing that method [00:14:09] on any unit, there is a great danger [00:14:13] of chaos, and not only will there be chaos, [00:14:16] but then all your enemies who want to ignite a fire [00:14:20] in our remaining peaceful provinces [00:14:23] will play their part in fueling that fire. [00:14:27] Therefore, we need to think that when the people of a province [00:14:30] do not want it, how can you sit here and impose [00:14:33] your will on that province based on one person's logic, [00:14:36] one person's desire, one person's logic, [00:14:39] or the logic of a few people who sat together, [00:14:43] or a poll being conducted on TV? Do you think these things [00:14:47] can replace the will of the people? Alright. [00:14:50] Therefore, if they feel that a province should be formed, [00:14:54] their assembly passes it. That is the constitutional way. [00:14:57] What other way is there? Alright, Awais Bappy Sahib, [00:15:01] what do you think? Should new provinces be formed? [00:15:05] Look, Mirza, with all due respect, both my colleagues are senior senators. [00:15:08] The biggest problem for both these parties in grey areas [00:15:12] has always been that they can never speak clearly. [00:15:16] If you ask PML-N for their entire narrative, they will say, [00:15:19] "Look, a province cannot be formed in Punjab because things are being managed [00:15:23] very well here. [00:15:26] However, a province can be formed in Sindh because of mismanagement [00:15:29] and corruption, and people there are very poor." [00:15:33] When you ask the People's Party, they say, [00:15:37] "Because a resolution has been passed in Punjab, [00:15:41] a South Punjab province can be formed there. However, it is difficult in Sindh because [00:15:44] Sindh is our motherland, and this division will happen over our dead bodies." [00:15:48] When you ask them about Hazara, both will agree because [00:15:51] it's Khyber Pakhtunkhwa. Our party, Alhamdulillah, [00:15:55] Imran Khan Sahib, if it benefits the public, [00:15:59] if having a small administration benefits the people, [00:16:03] then I have no objection. Start with Khyber Pakhtunkhwa first. [00:16:06] We don't have a problem [00:16:12] if you create a separate Hazara province, our government will not fall. [00:16:15] Governments, Mir Sahib, are a secondary matter. [00:16:19] First, it should be about the welfare and betterment of the people. [00:16:23] For us, provinces should be formed in Punjab, [00:16:27] Sindh, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, Balochistan, wherever [00:16:31] the formation of provinces benefits the people. [00:16:34] So, you can see the narrative of both these political parties [00:16:38] regarding division and what their mentality is. It's an old territorial [00:16:41] mindset. "We will not allow our division." [00:16:45] How can it be that the division of Punjab [00:16:49] and our government starts from Attock and ends at Sahiwal? [00:16:53] "From Mian Channu to Sadiqabad, how can my territory be excluded?" [00:16:56] No, I cannot do this. How can it be that [00:17:00] it starts from Hyderabad and our government ends at Ghotki, [00:17:03] and Hyderabad-Karachi belongs to someone else? No, we cannot afford this. [00:17:07] These people will have to come out of this mentality. People have become very smart. [00:17:11] Even today, I talk about Imran Khan Sahib. The biggest claimant for South Punjab [00:17:15] is the People's Party. We built a secretariat there [00:17:19] for South Punjab in Multan and Bahawalpur. Today, donkeys and horses are tied there. [00:17:22] Half of the secretariat is ready. The Additional IG Punjab [00:17:26] Lahore has been transferred, the Additional Chief Secretary Lahore has been transferred, [00:17:29] or a Deputy Secretary has been made to sit for protocol, because forming a South Punjab province [00:17:33] does not suit PML-N at all, and the People's Party makes it a political slogan. [00:17:37] So both parties are playing to the gallery. They have no impact, no benefit [00:17:41] for the welfare of the people regarding provinces. Alright, but there are differences of opinion on this, [00:17:45] but perhaps there will not be a consensus. [00:17:48] Although Nawaz Sharif Sahib and Shehbaz Sharif Sahib [00:17:51] have also supported Bahawalpur province and South Punjab province [00:17:55] in the past, after the suggestion of Mohsin Naqvi Sahib, [00:17:58] some members of the federal cabinet have also given statements in his support. [00:18:02] Some statements are coming in opposition, and some are coming in support. [00:18:05] Let's listen to who gave statements in support. [00:18:09] Provinces will be formed, Inshallah, with consensus, [00:18:13] in this era. Forming new provinces, [00:18:16] it's better to have provinces as administrative units, [00:18:20] this is my personal opinion, so that you can effectively [00:18:24] improve the governance structure and provide better service delivery [00:18:28] to your citizens, to your Pakistanis. [00:18:32] The province is also its actual need. In fact, now [00:18:35] if the population is 25 crores, [00:18:51] all three are from PML-N, so they support new provinces. [00:18:55] So what is the official policy of PML-N on this matter? [00:18:59] Look, PML-N [00:19:02] has not held any meeting on this matter yet [00:19:06] to debate it or to form an opinion. [00:19:08] And surely, there will be a meeting on this, [00:19:11] and PML-N will form its opinion. Before this, [00:19:14] PML-N was in government [00:19:18] and Mian Shahbaz Sahib was the Chief Minister. [00:19:22] As the Law Minister, I myself presented a resolution [00:19:26] in which we passed a resolution from the assembly [00:19:29] for the creation of a province for Bahawalpur and South Punjab [00:19:33] and for the establishment of a National Commission. Similarly, [00:19:36] many of our friends have been struggling [00:19:39] for a Hazara province for a long time, [00:19:43] and their position is that a Hazara province should be formed. [00:19:46] Therefore, PML-N is not a victim of any [00:19:50] such reservation in this regard. [00:19:53] If the proposal that comes forward provides solutions [00:19:56] to the common man's problems at his doorstep, [00:20:00] then whether it is a local unit, [00:20:04] a province, or an empowered [00:20:07] local government system, there should be a debate on any such situation, [00:20:11] and progress should be made according to what a consensus is reached on. [00:20:15] So, Rana, are you saying that if a new province is formed [00:20:18] by following the constitutional path for creating a new province, [00:20:22] then you have no objection to it? No, Mir Sahib, is there any other [00:20:25] way apart from the constitution? People tell [00:20:29] other ways apart from the constitution, don't they? [00:20:35] There was a seminar in Lahore yesterday. No, who tells [00:20:39] them? Listen, who tells them and what way do they tell? [00:20:42] Please tell us. Yes, [00:20:46] just like Dr. Rehman Sahib says that [00:20:50] presidential system should be brought in the country, [00:20:54] and another gentleman says that there should be 24 provinces. [00:20:58] Another gentleman has written a book on new provinces. [00:21:02] He is a businessman from Karachi. He has written a book on it that, [00:21:05] sir, if there can be more provinces in India, [00:21:09] why can't there be in Pakistan? So that's why I also said [00:21:12] the same thing as Palwasha Khan Sahiba, that the procedure [00:21:15] will be according to the 1973 constitution, won't it? [00:21:20] Yes, you are absolutely right about that. Do you agree with it, Rana Sahib? [00:21:23] I just told you that what other way is there besides the constitution? [00:21:27] If we follow any other way besides the constitution, [00:21:31] then as I told you, two of our provinces [00:21:35] are already burning in fire. [00:21:39] to ignite a fire in the third province as well? Look, this resolution [00:21:42] was passed by the Punjab Assembly, but how many years have passed today? [00:21:46] No province has been formed on it. Punjab is still in its original form. [00:21:50] But if the people of a province do not want it, [00:21:53] this is my question. So can you sit here [00:21:57] and impose your will on that province that let's divide you? [00:22:00] And they don't want it. They are happy in their own state. [00:22:04] Who will determine what the people of which province want? [00:22:08] If the assembly of that province - you are seeing [00:22:12] surveys being conducted on some TV channels. Today I was watching [00:22:15] talks of referendums, surveys. [00:22:19] In one survey, it was said that [00:22:22] 97% of Pakistanis are in favor of new provinces, [00:22:25] and the survey was conducted on social media. [00:22:29] Alright, if it is 97%, then let them show [00:22:32] even 7% of them anywhere in Pakistan. [00:22:36] Out of 97, 7%. [00:22:38] You and PML-N agree that the way is what is written in the constitution. [00:22:42] Then in that way, this is the biggest obstacle [00:22:46] in the progress of the people of Pakistan. Every single thing [00:23:06] that suits the rulers of the time, [00:23:09] they bring up the supremacy of the constitution and say that [00:23:13] because it is not written in the constitution, your welfare cannot happen. [00:23:17] Someone tell me. in the form of a presidential ordinance, [00:23:50] your own party's government implemented it. [00:23:54] Before that, PML-N brought it as an act in 2016. [00:23:57] You made it a presidential ordinance in 2021, [00:24:01] and now the assembly has made it even stricter in 2025. [00:24:05] So this is a collective achievement of all of you. [00:24:08] So if you want to be scared of PECA, keep being scared. [00:24:12] We are not scared, Sahib. We are not scared of it. [00:24:16] You be scared. At least the final sin [00:24:19] came in favor of this government. My only last question was, [00:24:23] which constitution at this time allows you to do all those things [00:24:27] that serve you, that strengthen you in the system? [00:24:31] That is, you had to transfer judges outside Islamabad, [00:24:34] and bring judges from outside. You immediately changed the supremacy of the constitution [00:24:38] and the constitution itself. Every single thing [00:24:41] in which there will be no supremacy of the people, but their supremacy, [00:24:45] will suit them. Otherwise, when it comes to the people, [00:24:49] they will bring up the constitution and the law. Now will any MPA of the People's Party [00:24:52] who has been elected from the Sindh Assembly on their votes ever say that, sir, [00:24:56] I want to vote for division? Look, ask any Sindhi in Sindh. [00:25:00] Ask any Punjabi in Punjab. Do the people in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa [00:25:03] want that? [00:25:07] Rana Sahib is asking you something. Mir Sahib, one minute. [00:25:11] Rana Sahib is asking you something. When the person from Ghotki goes to Karachi, [00:25:15] he will feel pain, but because their mind does not accept it, [00:25:18] Rana Sahib, what were you asking? [00:25:21] Rana Sahib, what were you asking? I said that if Bappy Sahib [00:25:24] talks like this, then hundreds of things can be listed [00:25:28] that they have also done by disregarding the constitution, [00:25:32] but let him say whether he has [00:25:35] any other method in mind besides the procedure for the establishment [00:25:38] of provinces mentioned in the constitution. [00:25:42] Let's discuss that. Yes, I'll take a break here. [00:25:45] We'll meet again after the break. [00:25:46] Of, the real chair taste of seriously [00:25:58] spreadable, seriously good. 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