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[00:00:15] each other's interests.
[00:00:22] we do
[00:00:30] The Prime Minister will visit Saudi Arabia. He will meet with Saudi Waleed to discuss the
[00:00:33] regional situation and strengthening bilateral partnership. will be
[00:00:37] discussed.
[00:00:42] Iran's Deputy Foreign Minister Kazem Gharibabadi says that there are indications
[00:00:46] that the US is ready to act on its promises again. The issue of the toll in the Strait of Hormuz
[00:00:50] will depend on Iranian decisions and American behavior. The agreement for a new arrangement between Iran
[00:00:54] and Oman on the Strait of Hormuz is nearing its final stage.
[00:00:57] is.
[00:01:32] also need provinces, so we have said
[00:01:41] that you
[00:02:46] That's why people also have some compulsions
[00:03:17] The conspiracy failed.
[00:03:19] But primarily, we have said Now the of a traditional funeral. It's a public is ready for the marathon.
[00:03:22] The marathon
[00:03:25] that parties are accusing each other run is about to begin, God willing.
[00:03:32] On August 7, at 4 pm, the entire
[00:03:35] the increase in petroleum products is so Pakistan will be on the streets against the petroleum levy and against this economic
[00:03:38] terrorism. In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful. Assalam-o-Alaikum.
[00:03:42] Welcome to Capital Talk. Pakistan
[00:03:45] Tehreek-e-Insaf has once again announced
[00:03:48] a long march. But the
[00:03:52] date given is quite a few days later. They have announced
[00:03:56] a long march on September 27. Yesterday, there was a rally in Peshawar.
[00:04:00] The rally
[00:04:02] Who should conduct the dialogue? On what terms should the dialogue was attended by the Chairman of Tehreek-e-Insaf, Barrister Gohar Khan
[00:04:05] Sahib, Chief Minister Sohail Afridi Sahib, and
[00:04:08] the leadership of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf appeared united on one stage
[00:04:12] after a long time, and there was a very large crowd
[00:04:16] force that we must first in front of them,
[00:04:19] The IMF tells you many other things, and they announced a long march on September 27. In what words did they do it?
[00:04:21] Listen. That leader who is in Adiala Jail
[00:04:25] always used to say that
[00:04:28] This is something my youth, my youth.
[00:04:44] On September 27, they will turn towards Islam.
[00:04:47] What is the reaction of Imran Khan's sister, Alia Khan
[00:04:51] Sahiba, to this? Please listen to that as well. The date of September 27
[00:04:54] was given. What will Imran Khan say at that time?
[00:04:57] Wait.
[00:05:12] And he was asked if he was discussed, he said, "No, we don't discuss." So perhaps he thinks that
[00:05:16] September 27 is a very far-off date.
[00:05:20] Anyway, whatever the matters are, if there is a long march on September 27,
[00:05:24] it will be towards D-Chowk in Islamabad or towards Adiala Jail.
[00:05:28] There are many questions. To discuss this, today we have with us the Chairman of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf,
[00:05:32] Mr. Barrister Gohar Khan Sahib. Thank you very much, Barrister Sahib.
[00:05:35] First of all, the impression emerging from Alia Khan
[00:05:39] Sahiba's conversation is that September 27 is
[00:05:42] a very far-off date. So why was the date of September 27
[00:05:46] chosen? Mr. Amir, the
[00:05:49] fact is that for us,
[00:05:52] which date it is, we are not so concerned about the
[00:05:56] reasons why we announced it and why we announced it on the
[00:06:00] 27th. We announced it on the 27th because we wanted
[00:06:03] to prepare for it. We also needed to mobilize people,
[00:06:07] and some arrangements were also needed. But obviously, we never
[00:06:11] met Alia Khan Sahiba or
[00:06:24] understand that Khan Sahib is unjustly imprisoned, it is politically motivated, and in the same way,
[00:06:27] Bushra Bibi is also unjustly imprisoned, and all these are politically
[00:06:31] motivated cases, and not a single one of us wants Khan Sahib
[00:06:35] to remain in jail for even a day, so she is talking in that context that
[00:06:39] Khan Sahib should be released even yesterday or the day before.
[00:07:12] I am not just talking about PTI, but for any political party, giving this call to the public
[00:07:16] to come out for their demands and for their rights, to adopt a path
[00:07:20] and go towards a long march, this is a very tough
[00:07:23] and serious matter. You don't call for a long march on every
[00:07:26] issue, and this is the first time
[00:07:30] since November 2024 that
[00:07:34] and we have considered its pros and cons
[00:07:37] extensively. We were left with nothing. We were left with no option but to
[00:07:41] go for it. And the reason for this is that Hameed Mir Sahib, forget the previous
[00:07:45] things, that our seats were also gone, our mandate was also stolen,
[00:07:48] and our leadership was also convicted. Today, it's almost a year since Omar Ayub Khan Sahib and our
[00:07:52] other leaders were convicted. They were convicted on July 31, and on August 6,
[00:07:56] Omar Sahib was de-notified
[00:07:59] as the leader of the opposition from the National Assembly. We tolerated all this.
[00:08:03] Now it's been 295 days since we haven't met Khan Sahib.
[00:08:07] Doctors don't have access, no communication with children, no family access.
[00:08:10] No. The leadership has not met since February 2025.
[00:08:14] No meetings with the leadership are taking place. What have
[00:08:18] we done after all? This is his right. Forget his status as a big
[00:08:21] leader, forget his status as prime minister. There are court orders, an order from three judges,
[00:08:25] according to the rules, according to the SOP.
[00:08:29] The order that is in our favor is not implemented. We went to the courts
[00:08:32] 25 times to the High Court, 15 times to the Supreme Court
[00:08:36] in Islamabad. We raised our voice in the assembly, requested the Prime Minister, requested the Speaker
[00:08:40] Sahib, the influential circles, the way we could deliver the
[00:08:44] message, we delivered the message. But every single
[00:08:47] time it was ignored, and no action was taken on it.
[00:08:51] We kept saying this, despite our people being shot, martyred,
[00:08:54] injured. We said, "Dialogue." Then later,
[00:08:58] a committee was also formed, then nothing happened. But today, Amir Dogar Sahib
[00:09:02] had a meeting today. Mirza, look,
[00:09:06] there should be a political solution to political problems,
[00:09:09] but where should the discussion take place? What should the dialogue be about?
[00:09:14] take place? What is
[00:09:18] needed for this is serious and sincere efforts.
[00:09:21] That didn't happen. And when 2025
[00:09:24] came, we said with full
[00:09:28] stand with Pakistan, with the state.
[00:09:31] But when the leadership came from outside Pakistan, we welcomed them
[00:09:35] and all our matters were discussed. Amir Dogar Sahib met with the Speaker of the National Assembly.
[00:09:39] So, is there any chance that talks between PTI and the government
[00:09:43] can resume? Look, the government doesn't
[00:09:46] take concrete steps. It's just limited to a meeting, and I would
[00:09:50] say that who should we negotiate with?
[00:09:54] On what terms? When? Who has this authority?
[00:09:57] It would have been better if the government had made serious efforts
[00:10:00] on this. We haven't seen that till today. It's just
[00:10:04] an offer. Otherwise, the Prime Minister didn't even shake hands
[00:10:08] with Achakzai Sahib. Achakzai Sahib himself walked towards him, but
[00:10:11] the government's stance still hasn't changed towards us. So that's why we had no other
[00:10:15] option but to tell the nation that if we hadn't
[00:10:19] done it, the nation would have gone on its own, because by and large,
[00:10:22] Mirza, the whole world believes that if Pakistan has
[00:10:26] 70 percent of the people, then they are followers of Khan Sahib, followers.
[00:10:30] A lot of effort was made, this is true. You are
[00:10:33] right. But if the government is not
[00:10:37] facilitating you, not talking to you, perhaps the reason is that you announce rallies
[00:10:41] but cannot hold them. Just yesterday, you held a rally in Peshawar after a long time.
[00:10:45] Then there are many internal differences in your party. Alia Khan
[00:10:48] Sahiba says something, the party says something else.
[00:10:52] Is the government not benefiting from all these things? Look, some things have happened,
[00:10:56] but by and large, if you look at it, this was our tenth
[00:11:00] rally. We have held 10 rallies and we also brought out rallies and
[00:11:03] protests and everything, and the way Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf has
[00:11:07] mobilized people by and large, especially yesterday, the way people came out
[00:11:11] all over Pakistan and protested against Khan Sahib's three years
[00:11:15] of unjust imprisonment and oppression, I commend them greatly and
[00:11:18] salute them for raising their voices for themselves. So this is
[00:11:22] one thing, but we don't have any forward bloc. All the people are united
[00:11:26] for Khan Sahib. You also saw yesterday that there is one thing
[00:11:29] in the entire leadership. Khan Sahib and Bushra Bibi, no compromise.
[00:11:33] We don't want, Amir Sahib, that things should be turned upside down.
[00:11:37] We tried hard to bring change within the system.
[00:11:41] That someone should listen to our voice. That there should be a
[00:11:44] redressal for our grievances. That's why Khan Sahib
[00:11:47] also repeatedly said that we tried hard, but no one addressed
[00:11:51] it, nor did anyone take it seriously. But I rather think
[00:11:55] that all our efforts were considered a weakness, just as you also said
[00:11:59] that we could not mobilize people and bring them to Islamabad. We brought many people after mobilizing them,
[00:12:02] but in the civilized world, where is it
[00:12:06] shoot people? You shell people.
[00:12:10] The way people were dealt with in D-Chowk, this was not
[00:12:14] anywhere. You also saw in India that the Congress party people
[00:12:17] came. They mobilized how many people? They put forward their demands,
[00:12:21] and there was no lathi charge on them. But whatever the police said,
[00:12:25] the Supreme Court said to preserve everything on CCTV.
[00:12:28] This is my question to you. This is my question to you, that Azad
[00:12:32] Kashmir is a small area. For many weeks, people
[00:12:35] have been sitting there, protesting at three or four places. There is no political
[00:12:39] party behind them. You referred to the Congress party.
[00:12:43] People were mobilized, and the government
[00:12:47] accepted the people's demands. So if you
[00:12:50] claim so much popularity,
[00:12:54] are with Imran Khan, then why can't you gather 50,000, 60,000, one hundred thousand people?
[00:12:58] Look, we can gather people. We can call them
[00:13:01] to the party if you see the rallies, etc. But people have seen,
[00:13:05] Mir Sahib, this time the political atmosphere is not like it used to be.
[00:13:11] that if they come, they can't face bullets. Nor do we have any
[00:13:14] guerrilla force. We have ordinary
[00:13:17] Pakistanis. People from all walks of life are with us. There are women
[00:13:21] and children and old people. There is no such political party
[00:13:25] that has such a cadre in all the provinces of Pakistan as
[00:13:29] we have. At this time, we have representation in all four provinces, and a lot of
[00:13:33] representation. But why did you boycott the elections in Azad Kashmir? Because
[00:13:36] people did not want elections in Azad Kashmir. We were saying that first of all,
[00:13:40] an election atmosphere should be created in Azad Kashmir.
[00:13:44] An election atmosphere is created then. Look, this is the reason that these two
[00:13:49] of stealing the election. The truth is,
[00:13:53] Mir Sahib, that the list there.
[00:14:25] The second one, where there are 700 votes, 10-10 votes have been pooled. So
[00:14:29] they themselves have no mandate for themselves, and elections are not held like this.
[00:14:33] Secondly, what kind of election did you hold in Azad Kashmir? It has almost
[00:14:37] the same population as Islamabad. It's a small place. You divided
[00:14:40] it into three portions. First, elections for 13 seats, then
[00:14:44] for 10-11 seats, then for nine seats. A village council election is never
[00:14:48] held like this, the way you made it so critical. And especially
[00:14:52] when a minister comes and makes an irresponsible statement,
[00:14:55] one says this is not Pakistani, and the other
[00:14:59] sahib says that his 12 seats are in our pocket. So if you had 12 seats in your pocket,
[00:15:03] it means you didn't want elections at all. Yesterday, in the speech
[00:15:07] you gave at the Peshawar rally, you also mentioned, and some other
[00:15:11] speakers also mentioned, the recent statement of Interior Minister Mohsin Naqvi
[00:15:14] Sahib. So you people think that
[00:15:18] Mohsin Naqvi's statement is actually a charge sheet against his own government.
[00:15:21] So after this statement, do you think
[00:15:25] that the People's Party is also very unhappy with the Muslim League-N?
[00:15:29] So can you and the People's Party
[00:15:32] together bring a no-confidence motion? Sahib, this
[00:15:36] statement is true. The government did not have any mandate
[00:15:40] from day one, and they had not gained the trust of the people.
[00:15:44] But after this statement, they have obviously lost
[00:15:48] everything. But Pakistan People's Party and PML protect
[00:15:52] Don't blame them. It doesn't work like that. You take a principled
[00:15:56] stand and stick to it. Then
[00:15:59] that what is in them. However, there are some things,
[00:16:03] as it has come about the provinces, a discussion has started. So
[00:16:16] this is that the amendments you made earlier, the 26th and 27th amendments, they were also not right.
[00:16:20] But if you have to do something about the provinces, then Amir Sahib, the biggest
[00:16:24] thing is that the Noon and the People's Party, these two will oppose
[00:16:28] it the most because all their dominance and occupation will
[00:16:31] end. One has been occupying Sindh and the other has been occupying Punjab.
[00:16:35] The people of Punjab also, who
[00:17:09] that these are such sensitive issues that they require
[00:17:13] a larger consensus. First thing is this, and if we
[00:17:17] have to do something, then one is that if you are changing the boundaries of a province, then you need
[00:17:20] a two-thirds majority of that province also. Even if Hazara province
[00:17:24] is formed in KPK, it will still be with a two-thirds majority, and if Punjab is
[00:17:28] divided further, then it will also be with a two-thirds majority. We, if
[00:17:31] we do something, we will not do it without consulting Khan Sahib. If our access
[00:17:35] etc. is restored and we start talking to him, then we will see
[00:17:39] what the situation becomes. So the meeting with Imran Khan Sahib
[00:17:42] is not happening. It's been
[00:17:45] quite a long time. It's been 295 days
[00:17:49] that we haven't met. So if you meet
[00:17:53] after 300 days, you will discuss many things
[00:17:56] with Khan Sahib. You will also discuss the matter of new provinces. Look,
[00:18:00] we will discuss all the things, the things of the biggest party. We are concerned about his
[00:18:04] health. We will discuss all the things.
[00:18:37] that you also need the majority of the provinces, and even otherwise,
[00:18:41] beyond constitutional boundaries, this is a public and political
[00:18:45] issue, and it is very sensitive. It is important for everyone to be on board
[00:18:49] on this. As far as PTI's stance is concerned, we will give our stance only when
[00:18:53] we meet Khan Sahib, if such a thing happens.
[00:18:56] that this kind of legislation and
[00:19:00] amendment should not be done by a parliament.
[00:19:04] Well, there is one statement of Mohsin Naqvi Sahib on which you people expressed
[00:19:08] your views in the rally yesterday. After that, he gave another statement. What did he say in that?
[00:19:12] Please listen to that as well. People have a great desire and will
[00:19:15] continue to have it that somehow my relationship with him gets ruined.
[00:19:18] But the future of the government
[00:19:22] will definitely complete five years. Shehbaz Sahib will remain Prime Minister for five years,
[00:19:25] no matter what they do. Take out whatever you want from the statement,
[00:19:29] do everything, but God willing, the Prime Minister will complete
[00:19:33] his term of five years. So Mohsin Naqvi Sahib said that no matter
[00:19:37] what anyone does, Shehbaz Sharif Sahib will complete
[00:19:40] five years. Now what do you say? I don't think even Shehbaz Sharif Sahib thinks
[00:19:44] that he will complete five years. Well, he said this for that, I think
[00:19:47] he doesn't think so either. And when you lose public
[00:19:51] support, which they never had, I find it very difficult,
[00:19:55] and why do I find it difficult? It seems almost impossible
[00:19:59] to me. Why does it seem impossible to me? Look, Mir Sahib, look at the situation right now.
[00:20:02] Since the regime change, if anyone had even one percent
[00:20:06] of regard, they would have come forward themselves,
[00:20:09] with the Prime Minister of Britain, and said,
[00:20:12] Mir Sahib, your economy has gone into negative.
[00:20:16] Poverty is below 40 percent. School system is bad, health
[00:20:20] system is bad, law and order situation is bad.
[00:20:23] Your entire law and order situation four years ago was not like today's
[00:20:27] situation, whether you take
[00:20:30] KPK or Balochistan. Whereas we have always said that against
[00:20:34] terrorism, everyone should fight with one voice. But they don't have the capacity. They
[00:20:38] could not deliver. They received all kinds of support, but despite
[00:20:41] that support, they could not deliver. They could not take
[00:20:45] any such step that an ordinary Pakistani
[00:20:48] would feel that they got some relief. And most importantly, they made two amendments. They brought judges.
[00:20:52] Amir Sahib, before the 26th amendment, there were only 90
[00:20:56] judges in the High Courts, and after the 26th amendment, they appointed
[00:20:59] an additional 93 judges. But people's trust in the judiciary
[00:21:03] has ended. Justice has been denied.
[00:21:06] That's why the three organs that used to exist, those three organs
[00:21:10] have practically become one organ, and these people have also put the media in dormant mode
[00:21:14] because there is the PICA Act or some other things. These people are probably counting
[00:21:17] their days in power.
[00:21:20] Okay, finally, tell us that we have seen that the various
[00:21:24] opposition parties, when they have to protest, each party announces a separate protest.
[00:21:27] They have identified locations where they will block roads.
[00:21:31] Jamaat-e-Islami has made such a big announcement. Will you support Jamaat-e-Islami?
[00:21:35] Mirza, there is one thing in Pakistan. This is
[00:21:39] against inflation, but even if our stance is against
[00:21:42] Israel, if they unite for Palestine, then all the people, as you saw
[00:21:46] in Europe, all the people come out together in one place.
[00:21:49] It's a public gathering. Our different parties do it according
[00:21:53] to their own ways. Hafiz Naeem Sahib has put forward a very good idea,
[00:21:57] and it's a good thing, and it should be supported. But our wish
[00:22:01] is that it should not be just party-based, but there should also be meetings of a joint
[00:22:04] opposition, and they should also be related to public
[00:22:08] issues like inflation. Is there any hope of a grand
[00:22:12] joint opposition being formed?
[00:22:15] There should be, and this is the time to do it.
[00:22:19] There should be a joint one that focuses
[00:22:21] on public interest matters
[00:22:24] on a minimum agenda. But Barrister Gohar Sahib,
[00:22:28] we see that the Tehreek-e-Tahafuz-e-Ain that you have formed,
[00:22:32] it has one line, and Tehreek-e-Insaf
[00:22:35] is following another line. No, some of our demands are such that, for example, for the fifth,
[00:22:39] we are also a party and we are a part of that alliance, but there are some things
[00:22:43] minimum, for instance, we say give relief to the public, reduce these prices,
[00:22:47] reduce petroleum prices amidst inflation.
[00:28:52] Welcome to Capital Talk. Hafiz Naeem-ur-Rehman, the Amir of Jamaat-e-Islami,
[00:28:56] has announced on August 7,
[00:28:59] i.e., yesterday, to block roads across Pakistan.
[00:29:02] So what is the reason for this announcement? What are
[00:29:06] its objectives? Let's talk to him about it. Thank you very much, Hafiz Naeem-ur-Rehman
[00:29:09] Sahib. Would you like to tell us why you announced
[00:29:13] that you will block roads across Pakistan?
[00:29:17] And for what reason are you blocking roads?
[00:29:20] Is Jamaat-e-Islami capable of blocking roads across Pakistan?
[00:29:24] Look, the fundamental issue right now is
[00:29:28] there is extreme inflation, and a very big reason for this is now
[00:29:31] petroleum products, and
[00:29:37] high that its effect is being felt on everything in life. Just three
[00:29:41] days ago, there was a report that 27 more items have become expensive due to the increase in petroleum
[00:29:44] prices. Now, these petroleum products, the government says
[00:29:47] that, sir, since there was a war, we increased prices because of the war.
[00:29:51] Okay, you increased prices because of the war, but what is the connection of this levy
[00:29:54] with those prices, this extortion tax and protection money that they have to collect
[00:29:58] from us? And 1900 billion rupees they are taking from students,
[00:30:02] from common people, from laborers, farmers, whose income is not taxable,
[00:30:06] they are paying so much money in the form of petroleum levy.
[00:30:10] They also impose it on diesel, which makes public transport and goods transfer
[00:30:13] all difficult. They are not ready to accept it.
[00:30:17] They say there is pressure from the IMF.
[00:30:21] like reduce your luxuries, reduce your expenses. You don't do that. A CM sahib
[00:30:25] bought a plane worth 11 billion rupees. A Chairman Senate bought a car worth 90 million.
[00:30:30] that the public