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[00:00:14] and joined the Prime Minister of Britain
[00:00:30] Prince Saud bin Mishaal bin Abdul Saeed
[00:00:33] and the Saudi Arabian Minister of Agriculture welcomed Prime Minister
[00:00:36] Shahbaz Sharif. Shahbaz Sharif is on a visit at the invitation of Saudi Crown Prince
[00:00:40] Muhammad bin Salman. Field Marshal Asim Munir is also with the Prime Minister.
[00:00:44] Prime Minister Shahbaz Sharif will meet with the Saudi Crown Prince.
[00:00:47] The situation in the region and strengthening the partnership between the two countries
[00:00:51] will be discussed. During the three-day visit,
[00:00:55] the Prime Minister will also perform Umrah. He will also visit the Prophet's Mosque in Medina.
[00:00:58] Deputy Prime Minister Sakandar
[00:01:02] is already in Saudi Arabia.
[00:01:05] protect each other's interests.
[00:01:05] talking to you, perhaps it's not because The spokesperson of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs said
[00:01:07] you announce a rally that the visit is important for regional peace, diplomatic relations,
[00:01:10] cooperation, and the promotion of a common strategy. Pakistan
[00:01:14] is continuing its diplomatic efforts to end tensions in the Middle East
[00:01:17] and for the peaceful resolution of conflicts. Pakistan hopes that the
[00:01:21] Islamabad peace framework will be further advanced through
[00:01:25] consensus on the new Hurmuz. The path for Iran-America talks
[00:01:28] will be paved.
[00:01:30] the fact is
[00:01:36] Iran's Deputy Foreign Minister Kazem Gharibabadi said that
[00:01:39] there are indications that America is ready to act again.
[00:01:43] Now the issue of toll tax in the new Hurmuz will depend on Iranian decisions and American behavior.
[00:01:47] An understanding for a new arrangement between Iran and Oman
[00:01:51] on the new Hurmuz is near its final stage. This understanding
[00:01:54] does not mean that Hurmuz will be completely opened.
[00:01:59] in Sindh either. But for debate, it's better. Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian said that America thought that through war and sanctions,
[00:02:03] that Khan Sahib the government in Iran would also be overthrown like in Syria, but it
[00:02:06] failed. Under the leadership of the new Supreme Leader Mojtaba Khamenei,
[00:02:09] Iran is united and strong.
[00:02:11] On the court's order,
[00:02:16] the postmortem of Karachi's young trader Meer Raza will be
[00:02:20] conducted again today. Police Surgeon Dr. Sumiya says that after
[00:02:24] exhumation, various samples will be taken from the bodies.
[00:02:27] After taking the samples, the body will be reburied immediately.
[00:02:31] But where in the civilized world
[00:02:58] the situation becomes. So your meeting is mine to you. This same question is mine to you,
[00:03:02] In Geo News program Aaj Shahzeb Khanzada Ke Sath,
[00:03:05] on Tuesday, flaws were identified in Meer Raza's postmortem
[00:03:09] report, and the issue of a second postmortem was raised
[00:03:13] in front of Police Surgeon Dr. Sumiya Saeed and Meer Raza Ali's father.
[00:03:16] Speaking in the program, Police Surgeon
[00:03:19] that 70 percent of Pakistan's population Dr. Sumiya Saeed and Meer Raza Ali's father
[00:03:22] both expressed dissatisfaction with the initial postmortem
[00:03:26] report. Police Surgeon Dr. Sumiya Saeed said that a second postmortem
[00:04:09] Shahbaz Sharif's strategy failed. Now,
[00:04:12] the public should prepare for the marathon. The marathon
[00:04:16] run is about to start
[00:04:17] God willing.
[00:04:23] On August 7th at 4 PM, the whole of Pakistan will be on the streets
[00:04:27] against the increase in petrol levy.
[00:04:54] They are not ready to accept
[00:04:54] Who should conduct the dialogue? On what terms
[00:04:59] think even Shahbaz Sharif Sahib thinks Mr. and the leadership of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf
[00:05:02] were seen united on one stage after a long time, and there was a
[00:05:06] very large crowd in front of them. And they announced a long march
[00:05:09] on September 27th. In what words did he say it, listen
[00:05:13] to the leader who is in Adiala Jail. He used to say all the time,
[00:05:17] "My youth, my youth,
[00:05:20] my youth." Today,
[00:05:23] the youth needs you.
[00:05:26] Are you ready? Then,
[00:05:29] Inshallah, on September 27th,
[00:05:32] we will head towards Islamabad. On September 27th,
[00:05:36] we will head towards Islamabad. On this,
[00:05:39] Imran Khan's sister Alia
[00:06:09] So perhaps they think that September 27th is a very far-off date.
[00:06:13] Anyway, whatever the issues are, if there is a long march on September 27th,
[00:06:16] it will be towards D-Chowk in Islamabad or towards Adiala Jail.
[00:06:20] There are many questions. To discuss this, we have with us today the Chairman of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf,
[00:06:24] Barrister Gohar Khan. Thank you very much, Barrister Sahib.
[00:06:27] First of all, from the conversation of Alia Khan Sahiba
[00:06:31] also, an impression is emerging that September 27th is a very far-off date.
[00:06:34] So why was
[00:06:37] the date of September 27th chosen? Mir Sahib,
[00:06:43] that for us, which date
[00:06:46] it is, we don't care much about its reasons as to why we announced it
[00:06:50] and why we announced the 27th. We announced the
[00:06:53] 27th because we wanted it. It needs preparation,
[00:06:57] it needs mobilization of people, it needs some arrangement. But
[00:07:01] obviously, I personally never comment on the reservations
[00:07:04] of Alia Khan Sahiba or the entire family. But I do understand
[00:07:08] and I think every single person among us
[00:07:12] understands
[00:07:15] is unjustly in jail. This is politically motivated,
[00:07:19] and similarly, Bushra Bibi is also unjustly in jail,
[00:07:23] and all these are politically motivated cases, and not
[00:07:27] a single one of us wants Khan Sahib to remain in jail for even a day. So that's
[00:07:31] why she is talking in that context that Khan Sahib should be released
[00:07:35] tomorrow or the day after. But you do contact Alia Khan Sahiba? Yes, we keep in touch.
[00:07:38] Absolutely. Why not? About the family and Khan Sahib's health
[00:08:42] It happened today, Omar Ayub Khan Sahib's and our other leadership's one year
[00:08:46] is about to complete. On July 31st, he was convicted, and on
[00:08:50] August 6th, Omar Sahib was de-notified as the Leader of
[00:08:53] the Opposition from the National Assembly. We tolerated all this.
[00:08:57] Now 295 days have passed that we haven't met Khan Sahib.
[00:09:01] Doctors have no access. No talk with children. No access for family.
[00:09:04] There has been no meeting of the leadership
[00:09:07] since February 2025. What have we done after all?
[00:09:11] This is a right. Leaving aside the status of a big leader, leaving aside the status of a Prime Minister,
[00:09:15] there are court orders, orders of three judges, according
[00:09:19] to rules, according to SOP. The order that is in our favor
[00:09:23] is not implemented. We went to courts 25 times to the High Court,
[00:09:27] Islamabad, 15 times to the Supreme Court. We raised our voice in the assembly,
[00:09:30] requested the Prime Minister, requested the Speaker, we sent the message
[00:09:34] to the powerful circles in every way we could.
[00:09:37] But every single time it was ignored,
[00:09:41] and no action was taken on it. We kept saying this, despite the fact
[00:09:44] that our people were shot, martyred, and injured.
[00:09:48] We said, "Let's have a dialogue." Then later a committee was also formed, but nothing
[00:09:52] happened. But today, Amir Dogar Sahib met with him today.
[00:09:55] Mir Sahib, look, there should be a political solution
[00:09:59] to political problems. But where does the talk begin?
[00:10:03] On what basis should the dialogue happen?
[00:10:06] should the dialogue happen? What is
[00:10:10] needed for this is a serious
[00:10:12] and sincere effort. That didn't happen, and
[00:10:16] when 2025 came, we said with full force
[00:10:19] that first and foremost, stand with Pakistan,
[00:10:22] stand with the state. But when Pakistan
[00:10:29] met, is there any chance that talks between PTI and the government
[00:10:32] can resume? Look, the government does not
[00:10:36] take concrete steps. It's just a meeting. And
[00:10:40] I would say that who to negotiate with, on what
[00:10:43] terms, when to negotiate, who has this authority,
[00:10:47] if the government had made serious efforts on this,
[00:10:50] it would have been better. We have not seen that till today. It is only
[00:10:54] a mere offer. Otherwise, the Prime Minister did not even shake
[00:10:57] hands with Achakzai Sahib. Achakzai Sahib himself walked towards him, but
[00:11:01] the government's attitude towards us did not change. So that's why we had no other
[00:11:05] option but to tell the nation that if we had not done it before,
[00:11:09] the nation would have gone on its own. Because this is, by and large, Mir
[00:11:13] Sahib, the whole world understands that if Pakistan has 70
[00:11:16] percent people, they are followers of Khan Sahib. Much
[00:11:20] effort was made. Your point is correct.
[00:11:23] You are saying it correctly. But if the government
[00:11:27] is not facilitating you, is not
[00:11:32] and can't hold a rally. Just yesterday, you held
[00:11:35] a rally in Peshawar after a long time. Then your party has many internal differences.
[00:11:39] Alia Khan Sahiba says one thing, the party says another. Doesn't the government
[00:11:43] benefit from all these things? Look, some things have happened, but
[00:11:47] by and large, if you look at it, this was our tenth rally. We have held ten
[00:11:51] rallies, and we have also held rallies and made big protests
[00:11:55] and everything. And the way Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf mobilized people by and large,
[00:11:59] especially the way people came out across Pakistan yesterday
[00:12:02] and protested against Khan Sahib's three years of unjust imprisonment and oppression.
[00:12:06] So I commend them greatly
[00:12:10] for raising their voice for themselves. So this is a...
[00:12:14] But we don't have any forward bloc. All the people
[00:12:17] are united for Khan Sahib. You saw yesterday, there is one
[00:12:21] thing in the entire leadership. Khan Sahib and Bushra Bibi, no compromise. We
[00:12:25] don't want, Amir Sahib, things to go haywire. We tried hard
[00:12:29] to bring change within the system. For someone to listen to our voice,
[00:12:32] for someone to address our grievances.
[00:12:35] That's why Khan Sahib has also said many times that we tried
[00:12:39] hard, but no one addressed it, no one took it seriously.
[00:12:43] But I rather think that all our efforts were considered
[00:12:47] a weakness. As you also said, that we mobilized people and
[00:12:50] brought them to Islamabad. We brought many people mobilized.
[00:12:56] do you shoot people? You shell people.
[00:13:00] The way people were dealt with in D-Chowk, that was
[00:13:04] not anywhere. Even now, you saw in India, the protesting party
[00:13:07] came. They mobilized so many people. They put forward their demands, and
[00:13:11] there was no baton charge on them. But the police said something. The Supreme
[00:13:15] Court said to preserve everything, CCTV. This question
[00:13:20] that Azad Kashmir is a small area. There,
[00:13:24] for several weeks, people have been sitting on dharna in three or four places.
[00:13:28] There is no political party behind them. You referred to the protesting
[00:13:31] party. People mobilized,
[00:13:35] and the government accepted the people's
[00:13:39] demands. So if you claim such popularity,
[00:13:44] is with Imran Khan, then why can't you gather 50
[00:13:47] thousand, 60 thousand, one hundred thousand people? Look, we can gather people. We can call them
[00:13:51] to the party if you see rallies, etc. But people have seen,
[00:13:55] Mir Sahib, this time the political atmosphere is not the same as people used to see.
[00:13:59] That's why people also have some compulsions that if they come, they cannot
[00:14:03] face bullets. We don't have any guerrilla force. We
[00:14:06] have ordinary Pakistanis, all walks of life. We have
[00:14:10] women, children, old people. There is
[00:14:14] no political party that has such a cadre in any
[00:14:17] of the provinces of Pakistan as we have. At this time, our representation
[00:14:21] is very high, Alhamdulillah. But you then Azad Kashmir
[00:14:55] If votes are cast, they won't hold the elections. But the Election
[00:14:58] Commission of Azad Kashmir says that 40 to 60 percent of votes were cast.
[00:15:02] Show a picture from one place, a 10-minute video,
[00:15:06] a 5-minute video, that votes were cast here. Votes were not
[00:15:10] cast here at all. As people saw before, in one constituency,
[00:15:14] one vote was cast, and in another, where there were 700 votes,
[00:15:17] 10-10 votes were cast. So they themselves have no mandate.
[00:15:21] And elections are not held like this. Secondly, what kind of elections did you hold
[00:15:25] in Azad Kashmir? It has almost the same population as Islamabad.
[00:15:29] It's a small place. You divided it into three portions.
[00:15:33] First elections for 13 seats, then for 10-11 seats,
[00:15:37] then for 9 seats. This never happens.
[00:15:54] So if you had 12 seats in your pocket, it means you didn't want elections at all. In the speech you gave yesterday
[00:15:57] in Peshawar's rally, you also mentioned it, and some other speakers
[00:16:01] also mentioned it, the recent statement of Interior Minister Mohsin
[00:16:04] Naqvi. So do you people think that
[00:16:08] Mohsin Naqvi's statement is actually a charge sheet against
[00:16:12] his own government? So after this statement, do you think
[00:16:15] that PPP is also very angry with
[00:16:18] PML-N? So can you and PPP
[00:16:22] together bring a no-confidence motion? Sir,
[00:16:26] it is true that the government had no mandate
[00:16:30] from the first day, and it had no
[00:16:33] confidence of the people either. But after this statement, it is obvious
[00:16:37] that all this has happened. But Pakistan Peoples Party and PML-N
[00:16:42] If they don't get a share in judges, they stop the summary. If they don't
[00:16:46] get seats, they accuse of rigging. This doesn't happen. You
[00:16:49] take a principled stand and stick to it. Then we
[00:16:53] ask what is in them. However, there are some things
[00:16:57] that have come about regarding the provinces. A debate has started.
[00:17:01] Whether it is units or whether new provinces should be formed or not?
[00:17:04] Look, there should be a debate on this. It's people's demand, so
[00:17:08] there should be a debate on it. Our principal demand is that the amendments you made before,
[00:17:12] the 26th and 27th amendments, were also not correct. But if you want to do something about
[00:17:16] the provinces, Mir Sahib, the biggest thing is that the Noon and Peoples
[00:17:20] Party, both of them will oppose it the most because all their
[00:17:23] dominance and occupation will end. One has occupied Sindh,
[00:17:27] the other has occupied Punjab. The people of Punjab are not getting
[00:17:31] their genuine demands, and similarly, it's not happening
[00:17:36] If a debate starts, what do you think, Barrister
[00:17:40] Gohar Khan, Chairman Tehreek-e-Insaf, you have one
[00:17:44] capacity, and Barrister Gohar Khan has another capacity as a constitutional
[00:17:47] expert. So does Pakistan really need new administrative
[00:17:51] units? Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf's
[00:17:55] stance has always been that Khan Sahib also said that units
[00:17:59] are needed, provinces are also needed. So we have said that these
[00:18:03] are such sensitive issues that
[00:18:06] a larger consensus is needed. Firstly,
[00:18:09] if we have to do something, one thing is that if you are changing the boundaries
[00:18:13] of a province, then you need a two-thirds majority from that province
[00:18:17] as well. Even if Hazara province is formed in KP, it will still require a two-thirds majority.
[00:18:20] And if Punjab is divided again, it will also require a two-thirds majority.
[00:18:24] We will not do anything without Khan Sahib's advice.
[00:18:28] If our access is restored and we start talking to him,
[00:18:32] then we will see what
[00:18:36] with Imran Khan has not been possible
[00:18:39] for a long time now. It's been 295 days
[00:18:43] that we haven't met. So if you meet
[00:18:46] after 300 days, you will discuss many
[00:18:50] things with Khan Sahib. Will you also discuss the issue of new provinces? Look,
[00:18:54] we will discuss all things, the biggest party matters. We
[00:18:58] are concerned about his health. We will discuss everything.
[00:19:01] Obviously, whenever Khan Sahib used to meet us before, Khan Sahib's
[00:19:05] concern was always Pakistan's problems, economy, people.
[00:19:09] All these things were definitely discussed. So
[00:19:12] I remember Khan Sahib once
[00:19:15] talked about administrative units.
[00:19:18] Yes, he definitely did. So if you support administrative units
[00:19:22] and PML-N and PPP do not support it, then constitutional
[00:19:26] amendment cannot happen. No, constitutional amendment cannot happen
[00:19:30] for the reason that you also need a majority
[00:19:34] of the provinces. Otherwise, beyond the constitution,
[00:19:38] this is a public and political issue and it is very sensitive.
[00:19:41] It is necessary for all people to come on board. As far as PTI's stance is concerned,
[00:19:45] we will take a stance only when we meet Khan Sahib if such a thing
[00:19:49] happens. But primarily, we have said that
[00:19:52] such legislations and amendments should not
[00:19:55] be done by a parliament. Okay, there is one statement of Mohsin Naqvi Sahib
[00:19:59] about which you people expressed your views in the rally yesterday.
[00:20:03] After that, he gave another statement. Listen to what he said in that too.
[00:20:06] People have a great desire and will continue
[00:20:10] to have it, that somehow my relations with them get spoiled.
[00:20:13] But the government's future will definitely complete
[00:20:16] five years. Shahbaz Sahib will remain Prime Minister for five years, no matter what
[00:20:20] they do. Extract whatever they want from the statement, do everything,
[00:20:24] but Inshallah, the Prime Minister will complete his five years. So Mohsin
[00:20:27] Naqvi Sahib has said that no matter what anyone does,
[00:20:31] Shahbaz Sharif Sahib will complete five years. Now what do you say? I don't
[00:20:37] that he will complete five years. Well, he said this for it. I don't think
[00:20:41] he also thinks so. And when you lose
[00:20:44] public support, which he never had, I find it very difficult,
[00:20:48] and why do I find
[00:20:50] it difficult? It seems almost impossible to me. Why does it seem impossible?
[00:20:54] Look, Amir Sahib, look at the situation at this time.
[00:20:57] Ever since the regime change happened, if anyone had even one percent
[00:21:01] decency, they would have come forward
[00:21:04] and said Mir Sahib, the economy
[00:21:07] has gone into negative. Poverty is below 40
[00:21:11] percent. The school system is bad. The health system is bad. The law and order
[00:21:14] situation is bad. All your law and order situation was not
[00:21:18] like this four years ago.
[00:21:50] And after the 26th amendment, they appointed an additional
[00:21:53] 93 judges. But people's trust in the judiciary ended.
[00:21:56] Justice was not implemented. That's why the three
[00:22:00] organs that used to be three organs have practically
[00:22:04] become one organ. And the media has also been put in dormant
[00:22:07] mode by these people, that there is the PECA Act or some other things.
[00:22:11] They must be counting their days in power. Okay, now finally, tell
[00:22:15] us that we have seen that various opposition parties,
[00:22:19] when they have to protest, each party announces a separate protest.
[00:22:23] Recently, JUI also announced a separate protest.
[00:22:26] And you also announced a separate protest on August 5th.
[00:22:30] Now Jamaat-e-Islami is saying that on August 7th, they will block
[00:22:33] roads across Pakistan. They have identified more than five hundred
[00:22:36] locations where they will block roads. So Jamaat-e-Islami
[00:22:40] has made such a big announcement. Will you support Jamaat-e-Islami?
[00:22:44] Amir Sahib, there is one thing in Pakistan,
[00:22:47] this is against inflation. But even our
[00:22:51] Israel is also against it. If they gather for Palestine,
[00:22:55] all people, as you saw in Europe, all people come out together
[00:22:58] in one place. It is a public gathering. Our different parties do it on their
[00:23:02] own. Hafiz Naeem Sahib has floated it very well,
[00:23:06] and it's a good thing, and it should be supported. But our
[00:23:10] wish is that it should not be just party-based, but
[00:23:13] there should also be meetings of joint opposition, and they should also be
[00:23:16] public-related inflation. What is
[00:23:40] that? It has a line, and Tehreek-e-Insaf will be following another
[00:23:44] line. No, some of our demands are such that, like the 5th, we are also
[00:23:48] a party, and we are of this view
[00:24:20] Ideally, in these circumstances, such work should be done. Elections
[00:24:23] should be held like this. Local government should be strengthened like this. Elections should never
[00:24:27] be rigged. So in that, we can do that. Thank you very much, Barrister Gohar Khan,
[00:24:31] who was talking to us. Regarding Jamaat-e-Islami's call to block roads,
[00:24:35] he said that it is against inflation,
[00:24:39] and all opposition parties who are against inflation
[00:24:42] should adopt a common strategy. So
[00:24:46] let's talk to Hafiz Naeem-ur-Rehman, the Amir of Jamaat-e-Islami.
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[00:29:33] The Amir of Jamaat-e-Islami, Hafiz Naeem-ur-Rehman, has announced
[00:29:36] that on August 7th, that is, tomorrow,
[00:29:40] roads across Pakistan will be closed. So what is the reason
[00:29:43] for this announcement? What are its objectives? Let's talk to him about this. Thank
[00:29:46] you very much, Hafiz Naeem-ur-Rehman Sahib. Would you like to tell
[00:29:50] us that with this announcement you have made, that you will close roads across Pakistan,
[00:29:54] is Jamaat-e-Islami capable
[00:29:57] of closing roads across Pakistan? And for what reason
[00:30:01] are you closing roads?
[00:30:04] Look, the basic problem at this time is extremely
[00:30:08] high inflation, and a very big reason for that is petroleum
[00:30:12] products. And the increase in petroleum products is so high
[00:30:16] that its effect is being felt on everything in life. It's being felt
[00:30:19] on it. Just three days ago, there was a report that 27 more items had become
[00:30:23] expensive due to the increase in petrol prices. The government says that
[00:30:27] since there was a war, we increased prices because of the war. Okay,
[00:30:31] you increased prices because of the war, but what is the relation of this levy
[00:30:34] to those prices? The extortion tax and protection money they are collecting from us.
[00:30:38] And they have collected 1900 billion rupees
[00:30:42] from students, ordinary people, laborers, farmers, whose income
[00:30:45] is not taxable, they are paying so much money in the name
[00:30:49] of petrol levy. They also impose it on diesel, which makes public transport
[00:30:53] and goods transfer difficult. that.