GEONEWS — broadcast 20260806 230000 UTC 380 transcript segments Google Cloud Speech-to-Text API (Chirp) + Gemini 2.5 Flash Non-Thinking Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:00:00] and the search for the [00:00:16] The medical [00:00:19] for the current system. board constituted for the exhumation of Mirja, a young trader from Karachi, has replaced all its members [00:00:22] except Dr. Sama Syed. The eight-member board has been reduced to [00:00:26] five members. The order for the medical board was issued. While talking to Geo News, [00:00:30] Mir Raza Hasan's father said that when they were ready for the exhumation, [00:00:33] the medical board was changed in the dark of night. "We [00:00:39] So I think will not allow the medical board to conduct the exhumation." He claimed that influential people are involved in the murder of Mir Raza. [00:00:43] The family's lawyer, Jibran Nasir, said that they would go to court [00:00:46] regarding the medical board in the morning. Mir Raza's family is not satisfied [00:00:50] with the change of medical [00:00:55] Danyal, for the details. board members. Mir Raza's [00:00:59] second post-mortem will be conducted today on court order. Geo News [00:01:03] has obtained important pictures related to Mir Raza Ali's case. [00:01:07] and it should be done openly and transparently Mir Raza's shirt has a bullet mark and threads are coming out [00:01:10] of the shirt. The post-mortem report stated that the bullet entered the chest [00:01:13] and exited from the back. The picture also shows bruise-like marks on the feet. [00:01:17] There are also clear signs of torture on the ribs on the right side. [00:01:21] ہیں۔ [00:01:26] Iran and Oman have agreed on a new route for Hormuz. [00:01:56] of Pakistan's most important institution, the Pakistan Cricket Board, [00:01:58] is another good [00:02:04] There is no possibility of an alliance between the Pakistan People's Party and PTI, nor is the government in any danger, [00:02:08] said Minister of State for Interior, Dalal Chaudhry, during a discussion [00:02:12] on Geo News program 'Aaj Shahzeb Khanzada Ke Saath'. He said that after two and a half [00:02:15] years, the countdown for the government begins, but this time it will complete its five years [00:02:19] and the alliance will also continue in the same way. The Pakistan People's Party [00:02:23] realizes this, and will realize it even more. It is also in the interest of Pakistan [00:02:27] and the system that the current alliance continues [00:02:30] in the same way. [00:02:35] Sindh Chief Minister Murad Ali Shah says that there is a procedure in the constitution [00:02:39] for creating new provinces. According to the constitution, if a provincial assembly [00:02:42] passes a resolution to divide the province with a two-thirds majority, [00:02:46] then it is possible. The Sindh provincial assembly has unanimously opposed [00:02:50] the new province many times. If there is ever any change [00:02:53] in this stance, which does not seem to be happening, then it can be discussed. [00:02:56] ہے۔ [00:03:11] Prime Minister completes his five years, [00:04:02] he has now made explicitly. But I think [00:04:10] that some grievances [00:04:14] and after that, things [00:04:32] if a new system comes, a decision has been made. thing is that when we talk about democratic societies [00:05:12] Headlines: We will give you news from Karachi, where a motorcyclist [00:05:16] has been killed after being hit by a car near Qayyumabad Chowrangi. We will know more from [00:05:19] Geo News correspondent Danyal Syed, who is with us. Danyal, please [00:05:23] tell us. Yes, exactly. [00:05:26] This accident happened a little while ago near Karachiabad [00:05:29] Chowrangi. According to rescue officials, an unknown [00:05:33] fast-moving vehicle hit a motorcyclist, [00:05:37] who died on the spot. The deceased pedestrian [00:05:41] was approximately 30 to 35 years old. [00:05:44] According to rescue officials, the identity of the deceased person has not yet been confirmed, [00:05:48] but the body of the deceased person [00:05:51] has been shifted to Jinnah Hospital for legal formalities. The motorcycle [00:05:55] used by the deceased has been shifted to Baloch Colony police station [00:05:59] person responsible for the accident, [00:06:02] the unknown driver, is underway. [00:06:05] Thank you very much, [00:06:08] لئے [00:06:13] For more news, keep watching Geo News. [00:06:39] Interior Minister Mohsin Naqvi's statement that the system [00:06:42] is broken and needs a reset has sparked a debate [00:06:46] in the country. Last night, he further [00:06:50] clarified this statement and expanded upon it. He says [00:06:54] that Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif will complete his term, [00:06:57] will remain for five years, and further added that he meant [00:07:01] that if the Prime Minister had a functional system to work with [00:07:04] given how diligently he works, things would be much better. Hear it from him first, [00:07:08] what did he say? I still believe that if the Prime Minister [00:07:13] had a proper system, he would have taken this country [00:07:16] forward much faster. And people have a strong desire, and will continue [00:07:20] to have it, that somehow my relations with him are bad, the government's [00:07:24] future is secure, it will complete five years. Shehbaz Sharif [00:07:27] will remain Prime Minister for five years. They can do whatever they want with my statement, [00:07:31] they can extract whatever they want, but Inshallah [00:07:34] Ta'ala, the Prime Minister will complete his full five years. And you [00:07:38] know that this statement or clarification came in this atmosphere [00:07:43] where opinions are divided. In the new system [00:07:46] of Pakistan, structural changes in provinces, local governance, [00:07:50] a big debate has erupted. In such a situation, especially [00:07:54] the government has not come forward openly, it is reacting slowly. [00:07:57] I am Alina Farooq Sheikh, and the question here is what [00:08:01] should be inferred from the clarification or statement given by the Interior Minister. [00:08:05] For this entire discussion, we are joined by Irshad Bhatti Sahib. Bhatti Sahib, Fakhar Durrani Sahib, [00:08:09] Mazhar Sahib and Mahmal Sarfaraz are also with us. Fakhar, we would like [00:08:13] to know your opinion first of all. [00:08:16] We used to do that, didn't we, [00:08:19] interpret the poetry, what does the poet want to say in this verse? [00:08:23] Mohsin Naqvi Sahib has further clarified regarding the five [00:08:27] years, that the Prime Minister will complete his term and the system. [00:08:30] And he also said what the purpose of his statement [00:08:34] was. [00:08:37] Thank you very much, Alina. In this poem, the poet has further complicated [00:08:40] the matter. You remember his first [00:08:44] statement, what did he say in it? That the Prime Minister, [00:08:48] who works 12 to 16 hours a day, [00:08:51] even if he works for 10 years, he will still fail [00:08:55] because the system is a failure. Now what has he said? He has simplified [00:08:59] it a bit further by saying that the Prime Minister will complete [00:09:03] five years, but the system is a failure. So in [00:09:06] other words, the point that Naqvi Sahib made [00:09:10] indirectly is the same point [00:09:14] that the statement Mohsin Naqvi Sahib gave, even though he [00:09:18] met with the Prime Minister regarding this, and it is being heard [00:09:23] have been resolved, [00:09:27] have improved. But did this debate [00:09:30] of the past week, which involved many kinds [00:09:34] of speculations, whether about the "same page" tearing apart [00:09:37] or other things, I think it would have been better [00:09:41] if Mohsin Naqvi Sahib [00:09:45] had been asked to specifically identify which system is failing, because he keeps talking [00:09:48] about system failure, but he doesn't pinpoint which system is failing. [00:09:52] The system includes various institutions, it includes your economy, [00:09:56] it includes your law and order situation. [00:09:59] All these things are there. It would have been better [00:10:03] than repeatedly making riddles and doing things, it would have been better [00:10:07] to say this institution is not performing, it needs [00:10:10] reforms, [00:10:12] this work is not done well in that institution, it needs reforms. What happened to the law [00:10:16] and order situation in Pakistan in the last three years? [00:10:20] What reforms did we make in it? This [00:10:24] would have been better if Mohsin Naqvi Sahib had come forward [00:10:27] and explained these things. I think Mohsin Naqvi Sahib's way of [00:10:31] speaking in riddles and sometimes giving a clean chit to the government, [00:10:35] sometimes saying that the system has failed, this is not [00:10:39] at all a good and auspicious sign [00:10:44] Although it is also being said that [00:10:47] the establishment and the government are on the same page and there is no [00:10:51] such thing, but still such statements from Mohsin Naqvi Sahib [00:10:55] repeatedly, even the clarification, in that also he has further [00:10:58] complicated the matter, I think, and made it complex. [00:11:04] in this regard, the Prime Minister and the entire cabinet [00:11:07] should discuss it, and I remember Rana Sanaullah Sahib's statement [00:11:11] where he perfectly pointed out regarding the system [00:11:15] that those who covered a 30-year journey in three years [00:11:19] to reach this point, I think this is indeed a failure [00:11:23] of the system that always such people come through a backdoor [00:11:27] in the form of technocrats and then, to reach the highest level, [00:11:30] to put the blame like this on the entire government [00:11:34] and to spread confusion among themselves, [00:11:38] it would be better if this was discussed [00:11:41] once in the cabinet as to what [00:11:45] is the failure in the system, which institutions are involved. Now news [00:11:49] has also started coming that a complete proforma regarding the performance [00:11:53] of ministries is being [00:11:55] prepared, but even better than that would be to see [00:11:59] Mohsin Naqvi Sahib. If you look at the last three to four years, [00:12:03] the caretaker setup, he came after conducting elections as Chief Minister, [00:12:07] whereas Article 224 of the Constitution clearly states [00:12:10] that no one can participate in an immediate [00:12:13] election. Despite that, under the same system, he not [00:12:17] only became the chairman [00:12:21] but then he also contested Senate elections and got elected. [00:12:34] Such paths have been given in our system itself, and if [00:12:38] such paths, and especially regarding institutions, [00:12:42] he would have specifically told which systems are failing. The system [00:12:46] includes everything from a local government to every ministry [00:12:50] here. So he is not specifically telling [00:12:53] even now, Mohsin Naqvi Sahib is still saying the same thing that the Prime Minister [00:12:57] will complete five years, but the system has failed. [00:13:01] So it would be better that such a ministry and such an important [00:13:04] ministry he has taken charge of, [00:13:08] and the situation in Pakistan, whether it is related to terrorism or overall, [00:13:12] looking at Mohsin Naqvi Sahib, [00:13:15] is it fine? So I think that Mohsin Naqvi Sahib is creating more confusion [00:13:19] with such statements. It would be better if he clearly states that such [00:13:23] and such an institution has failed. [00:13:55] He is trying to make his point more convincing. What does he want to [00:13:59] highlight in it? [00:14:02] No, the first thing is that this is a damage control exercise. [00:14:05] He also knows, there is no such thing that he said this in a fit [00:14:09] of rhetoric. It has been a week, Alina, [00:14:13] from last Thursday until today, he [00:14:16] said what he said with great pre-planning, the way he spoke, [00:14:20] and especially about administrative units or [00:14:23] new provinces, there is no [00:14:27] doubt in our mind that he just said something [00:14:30] and then later he is saying, no, no, [00:14:34] I am retracting it. There is no such thing. This is [00:14:38] a way, because there was criticism about it, where did this [00:14:41] talk come from, who said this, why was this said? The debate [00:14:45] that started because of it, perhaps that's why he wants to say this, because you know [00:14:49] that there are many speculations, will the government go [00:14:52] or will it stay? What [00:14:57] who will be the Prime Minister in it? Is he himself a candidate [00:15:01] for it? Such things are obviously rumors. [00:15:04] But Alina, what he is saying, that the system is still collapsed, Fakhar [00:15:08] was also talking about it just now. He should answer some things. What [00:15:12] does he think, is the collapse in the system only [00:15:15] going to be fixed by creating new provinces or new administrative [00:15:19] units? Look, we have already discussed that administrative units [00:15:22] should be formed, given Pakistan's growing population, these things [00:15:26] are necessary for good governance. But the reason for the system's collapse [00:15:30] is not just that there are fewer provinces or [00:15:33] fewer administrative units. Obviously, in this collapse, [00:16:37] little attention is being given. I think, I said this before, that there should be a complete [00:16:41] debate on this, [00:16:45] in provincial assemblies and in parliament. [00:16:48] If there are any reservations, because look, news is also coming, Alina, that [00:16:52] if Karachi and Gwadar are made federal territories. Now, when [00:16:55] something like this comes up, how can you take such a step [00:16:59] without political consensus? Or even if Rana Sanaullah Sahib [00:17:03] said what he said, he spoke constitutionally, didn't he? He said that it should be done according to the constitution. [00:17:06] In the constitution, in Article 394, [00:17:09] it is clearly stated how it should be done. So whatever [00:17:13] needs to be done, I believe that political parties should decide it themselves [00:17:17] within the confines of the constitution. But what Mohsin Naqvi Sahib [00:17:21] is saying, and this is not a personal matter, Alina, [00:17:25] it's not just about him. But if you look otherwise, how can [00:17:28] any person who is not affiliated with any political party [00:17:32] come to such an important position? And this [00:17:35] problem, that when we talk about [00:18:07] Look, the first thing is that Naqvi Sahib has clarified [00:18:11] in a way. If a Prime Minister completes [00:18:14] his five years, then this is a success [00:18:18] of the system. [00:18:21] How did the system fail? No Prime Minister in this country has ever completed five years. [00:18:25] This will be the first Prime Minister to complete [00:18:29] five years. And why were five years not completed? Because no [00:18:32] Prime Minister was allowed to complete five years. [00:18:36] They were not allowed. They were removed. [00:18:40] If you look at the list, from Benazir Bhutto to Nawaz [00:18:44] Sharif and Imran Khan, if any [00:18:49] then Shehbaz Sharif will set a record. [00:18:51] He will be the first [00:18:54] Prime Minister. Leave aside how he was elected, [00:18:58] but he will be the first Prime Minister to complete five years. So then [00:19:01] how did the system fail? It means there was improvement [00:19:05] in the system. And that's the whole [00:19:08] debate, that Prime Ministers are not allowed to complete five years in this country. [00:19:12] Conspiracies begin. As for his [00:19:16] other point, which is being debated a lot. Look, there is a very easy [00:19:20] solution. Why are you creating such [00:19:23] an atmosphere that causes tension? [00:19:26] You should make cities metropolitan corporations, make Karachi [00:19:30] a metropolitan city. Empower other cities. [00:19:33] Empower the local bodies, which are already [00:19:37] in your framework. Empower them. [00:19:41] Just as you have amended the 26th and 27th [00:19:44] times, similarly, [00:19:48] do not interfere with other [00:19:50] things. This will cause harm. [00:19:54] At this time, the situation Pakistan is going through. [00:19:57] Starting a new debate will cause harm, not benefit. [00:20:01] If [00:20:06] کے [00:20:37] should happen. Because in this country, accountability, from Ayub Khan [00:20:41] to today, has only been done on political grounds. [00:20:44] In true sense, there has been no accountability in this country. [00:20:47] So you and if these five. [00:22:20] that the Prime Minister will complete five years, does this statement [00:22:23] give such an impression? Look, when [00:22:27] the Interior Minister says this, he shouldn't be saying it. He said, "He says it's a five-year [00:22:31] assembly, elected for five years, he will remain for five years." [00:22:34] Okay, Bhatti Sahib, [00:22:38] Bhatti Sahib, how do you analyze and comment on all of Mohsin Naqvi Sahib's [00:22:41] statements? Madam Sheikh, first [00:22:45] of all, I would like to ask Mazhar Bhai what harm [00:22:49] can come from debate in democratic societies? [00:22:53] Every matter should be debated. Is our [00:22:56] judiciary independent today? [00:23:09] So the first thing is that democratic societies are built on debate, [00:23:12] on questions, on performance. [00:23:16] In Britain, in 10 years, five or six Prime Ministers [00:23:20] came and went. What happened there? Did the world [00:23:23] come to an end there? Why should Shehbaz Sharif complete his term [00:23:27] if his performance is not good? Why should we keep him imposed [00:23:30] on us if his performance is not good? [00:23:34] So that's the first thing. Secondly, I would like to share a couplet [00:23:38] for Mohsin Naqvi Sahib's consideration: [00:23:41] "Wisdom became madness, and madness became wisdom, [00:23:45] whatever your charm may create." [00:23:48] Whatever your [00:23:50] It caused pain and sorrow to hear your latest statement, your latest golden words, your justifications. [00:24:04] You couldn't even stand on your feet for a few days. [00:24:08] Just a few days. [00:24:12] Look at my attendance, it's 70 percent. Don't spoil my relations [00:24:16] with the Prime Minister. Get a third-party audit of my performance. [00:24:20] What do we care about your attendance in the cabinet? What [00:24:23] is your performance? You came to this position [00:24:27] by your own efforts? What is your performance as [00:24:31] Chairman PCB? What is our team's ranking in One-Day? [00:24:34] What is our ranking in Test? What is our ranking in T20? [00:24:38] What is your ranking as Interior Minister? Has the country [00:24:41] gone to hell? And [00:24:44] where is that SHO who was supposed to fix the situation in Balochistan? [00:24:48] Where are those two or three people [00:24:52] you were supposed to catch, and it was supposed to be revealed how 100 billion dollars were laundered out of the country? [00:24:56] You yourself said this. The wave of terrorism [00:24:59] that is there, have you ever openly sat down [00:25:03] and informed us in detail that this should be discussed, [00:25:06] these things should be done, these should be done? What is your performance? [00:25:10] So you would be sitting at home [00:25:13] running your business. If it were about performance, [00:25:16] you would never have reached these positions. And if it were [00:25:20] about performance, you would never have remained in these positions until now. [00:25:23] And Mohsin Naqvi Sahib, [00:25:27] the second thing you said is that the system will remain even if it's destroyed, [00:25:31] and the current system is not going anywhere. [00:25:33] Meaning the doctor [00:25:37] is telling the patient that you are a very serious [00:25:41] patient, but I won't even treat you. Why [00:25:44] is that? It means we have malaria, and a mosquito [00:25:48] didn't even bite us. Why? What [00:25:51] is it? Which system did Quaid-e-Azam Sahib [00:25:54] make wrong? You are talking about Pakistan. Did Allama Iqbal Sahib [00:25:58] dream wrong? You are talking about the sacrifices of our millions of people. [00:26:02] And Shehbaz Sharif will remain [00:26:06] Prime Minister for five years. The government has not been charged. If Shehbaz [00:26:09] Sharif had a good system, he would have taken the country forward faster. [00:26:13] It seems you haven't read any book in your life, Mohsin [00:26:17] Naqvi Sahib. Look at Pakistan before 1988, and [00:26:21] now, these two dynasties we are stuck [00:26:24] with. Look at their Pakistan after 1988. These are our [00:26:27] diseases, these are our problems, with whom you want to maintain [00:26:31] good relations, whom you want to complete five years. [00:26:34] You are the adopted son of one, and you don't want to spoil relations [00:26:38] with the other. Then don't fight Pakistan's case. We were [00:26:41] living, crying, laughing, living. You told us that [00:26:45] it is destroyed, broken. Do something, the Prime Minister just [00:26:49] does firefighting. So do something, otherwise cockroaches will gather and [00:26:53] overturn everything. You said that, so stand on your feet. [00:26:56] If there is a country, then there is everything, isn't there? Do we have to salute [00:27:00] Shehbaz Sharif Sahib's picture or Asif Ali Zardari Sahib's? [00:27:02] Why do we want to impose them when their performance [00:27:06] is not good? Miftah Ismail Sahib, last point, Miftah Ismail Sahib [00:27:09] was just telling yesterday that in this [00:27:13] country, in four years, 40 thousand billion debt was taken, [00:27:16] and in 75 years, 45 thousand [00:27:20] billion debt was taken. In four years, 40 thousand billion, in 75 years, [00:27:23] 45 thousand billion. So you want to stay with this system, [00:27:27] you don't want to spoil relations with them. So the point [00:27:29] is, this is our problem, we don't act on what [00:27:33] we say. If we say it, we don't stand by it. And because [00:27:37] no one loves the country, sir. [00:27:41] Why do you think he is deviating from his first statement? Because [00:27:45] he is saying that I am saying that the system is still broken. [00:27:48] In fact, he praised the Prime Minister's performance. [00:27:51] So then where did the system go wrong [00:27:55] if he is praising the Prime Minister? He is saying it's not the Prime Minister's [00:27:58] fault. He is saying it's not the Prime Minister's fault. You heard the whole statement, you told me. [00:28:03] Tell me, why did you feel that? No, why did you [00:28:06] feel that he is deviating from his statement? Then it's Mohsin Naqvi Sahib's problem, [00:28:10] at least he should apologize to them. He might be feeling it's his problem. Sir, [00:28:14] tell me why you think he is deviating from his first statement? [00:28:18] Please clarify this. Yes, I will. PML-N and PPP [00:28:21] have been coming to power for the last 30-35 years by changing faces. [00:28:25] These two dynastic monarchies are the ones who destroyed [00:28:29] the system. They are the ones who destroyed Pakistan. With them, the system will remain the same. [00:28:41] Change the provinces below, create new provinces. Will anyone let you create them? [00:28:45] No one will let you create them. So the point [00:28:48] is that you made a good point that this system is destroyed, [00:28:52] create new administrative units. And now you are saying that these [00:28:56] two parties want to create new administrative units. [00:29:00] That's right. Look at my performance, [00:29:03] I'm also fine. So then who is the system, [00:29:07] Mr. System, who has gone bad, tell us. You are [00:29:11] the people who caused all the destruction and ruin. And I think there is some ambiguity [00:29:15] in the definitions of the system. Perhaps I got a different impression from what other analysts said, [00:29:19] and your understanding of the system is perhaps a little different. [00:29:23] Does Bhatti Sahib want to add something? He asked this question, and [00:29:26] it was absolutely correct, that if there is a debate, what's wrong with that? [00:29:30] There's absolutely nothing wrong with debating. [00:29:33] Then you made another point, that in other democratic countries, [00:29:36] does it happen that an Interior Minister [00:29:39] who is not affiliated with any party? [00:29:43] Does it happen in any democratic country that any Finance Minister [00:29:47] is not affiliated with any party? Okay, sir, do Prime Ministers [00:29:51] who go to other countries go the way [00:29:54] they go here? They would morally [00:29:57] resign if the party gives them a vote of no [00:30:00] confidence. They resign. Do other [00:30:04] democratic countries have this, that parties are formed [00:30:08] and broken in this manner? Governments are formed and broken. So I [00:30:12] think we have a unique system. [00:30:14] And when you are saying these things to the Interior Minister, [00:30:17] and you are saying these things, then this is also a question [00:30:21] between us, isn't it, that how did Shehbaz Sharif come? How [00:30:25] was he brought? Are they brought like this in democratic societies? So the real [00:30:31] and all that.