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[00:01:41] perhaps. But the thing is,
[00:01:48] is that young people,
[00:02:01] you for keeping Geo News as number one.
[00:02:11] at the same time. The question
[00:02:19] Welcome to Capital Talk. Hafiz Naeem-ur-Rehman, Amir of Jamaat-e-Islami,
[00:02:23] announced on August 7th, i.e., yesterday,
[00:02:27] that all roads across Pakistan would be closed. What
[00:02:30] is the reason for this announcement? What are its objectives? Let's talk to him about this. Thank you very much, Hafiz Naeem-ur-Rehman Sahib, would
[00:02:34] you like to tell us
[00:02:38] that you have announced that you will close
[00:02:41] all roads in Pakistan, so
[00:02:44] is Jamaat-e-Islami capable of closing
[00:02:47] all roads in Pakistan, and for what reason are you closing
[00:02:51] the roads?
[00:02:53] Look, the basic problem at this time is
[00:02:57] extreme inflation, and a very big reason for that is petroleum
[00:03:00] products, and there is such a big increase
[00:03:04] in petroleum products that its effect is being felt on every aspect of life.
[00:03:07] Just three days ago, there was a report that 27 more items have become expensive
[00:03:11] due to expensive petrol. Now, these petroleum products, the government says
[00:03:15] that since there was a war, we increased prices because of the war.
[00:03:18] Okay, you increased prices because of the war, but what is the relation of this levy
[00:03:22] to their prices that they are collecting as extortion tax and a place tax from us,
[00:03:26] and they have collected 1900 billion rupees from
[00:03:30] students, common people, laborers, farmers whose
[00:03:34] income is not taxable, they are paying so much money
[00:03:37] in the name of petrol levy. They also impose it on diesel, which makes public
[00:03:41] transport and goods transfer difficult. They are not ready to accept
[00:03:45] it, saying there is pressure from the IMF. Well, the IMF tells you many other things, like to
[00:03:49] reduce your luxuries and expenses, but you don't do that. A certain lady bought
[00:03:52] a plane worth 11 billion rupees, and a Chairman Senate bought a car
[00:03:56] worth 90 million. This is something that the public
[00:04:12] also support them? Do you have coordination
[00:04:30] At this time, diesel that is 383 rupees.
[00:04:33] So tell us, what science is this, that when international market prices have
[00:04:36] returned to the same level, what are they collecting from us?
[00:04:40] And it's not just a levy; there are all sorts of taxes included
[00:04:43] in it. The ex-refinery price is very low,
[00:04:47] but they impose so much on us, which affects every sector of life.
[00:04:51] Obviously, we struggled for IPPs, and as a result,
[00:04:55] electricity prices came down. Jamaat-e-Islami's model is not to
[00:04:58] burn things, siege, shout, or throw stones.
[00:05:01] We will come to the streets peacefully. We have designated 510
[00:05:04] locations across Pakistan, and people in their respective districts have
[00:05:08] informed about it. Some are highways, some are large roads, and we have nominated
[00:05:23] those places. You will close roads at 510 locations tomorrow, so
[00:05:26] please educate people so that they don't come
[00:05:30] out at that time. At what time will you start closing the roads?
[00:05:34] And in Karachi, Lahore, Islamabad,
[00:05:36] Peshawar, Quetta, the big cities
[00:05:40] of Pakistan, will you tell us which places you will close?
[00:05:44] Look,
[00:05:46] we have set the time at 4 PM. We have not called for a strike;
[00:05:50] the traders themselves say they are ready for a strike. But we have said that
[00:05:53] if the government doesn't listen, we will call for it later. For now, you
[00:05:57] should come to the streets. And
[00:06:01] look, all the cities you mentioned - Islamabad, Lahore, Peshawar, Karachi, Quetta -
[00:06:05] it will happen everywhere. In Balochistan, we will do it at 18 places,
[00:06:08] including Quetta, Inshallah. And that will also show
[00:06:23] that Balochistan is also fully involved. Similarly, in Lahore,
[00:06:26] at Main Mazang Chowrangi, people will come out from different zones
[00:06:29] in rallies, young people, and then they will sit at Mazang.
[00:06:33] Shahrah-e-Faisal in Karachi will also be closed. Similarly, in Islamabad,
[00:06:37] we have designated the Stop 26. Similarly, Murree Road
[00:06:41] in Rawalpindi has been designated. In Peshawar, similarly,
[00:06:45] their main highway will be closed. Similarly, Gujranwala, Main GT
[00:06:48] Road, they will come to Bhai Pheru in Taahival. Similarly, in South Punjab,
[00:06:52] they will come to the main roads. In Multan, they will come to Boston Road.
[00:06:56] Similarly, all the places I remember right now, I am telling you. Our model
[00:07:01] students, laborers, farmers, common people should come,
[00:07:05] turn off their motorcycles, and become a part of this protest.
[00:07:08] And if the government doesn't do anything, then Inshallah,
[00:07:12] nothing will happen. If an ambulance comes, we will give it way. We will appeal to the public
[00:07:16] to become a part of our protest. Inshallah, we will be present on the roads,
[00:07:19] and the whole of Pakistan will be peaceful
[00:07:23] is, you know that in Islamabad (I am only talking about Islamabad right now),
[00:07:27] a law was made for protests
[00:07:30] by this very assembly, and when
[00:07:34] Section 144 is imposed, which has been in effect since the British
[00:07:38] era, people get arrested for violating
[00:07:42] it. So, if young people get arrested,
[00:07:45] won't that be a violation of the
[00:07:49] law?
[00:07:52] Look, the responsibility then falls on the one who is misusing the law, right?
[00:07:55] Peaceful political protest on the streets, that's
[00:07:59] our right, right? It's the right of the people.
[00:08:03] You have blocked the highways of our economy, you have blocked the highways of our lives.
[00:08:07] If you look at the conditions all around, these people have made life hell
[00:08:11] in this country. Look, you can't even imagine the condition of a common
[00:08:14] man. When the electricity bill comes, it drops like a bomb.
[00:08:18] If a person is paying 125 rupees tax on every liter
[00:08:21] of petrol, a motorcyclist uses 6 liters of petrol.
[00:08:25] You tell me, in 6 liters, calculate 125 x 6.
[00:08:29] This is approximately 7500 rupees in tax being paid daily
[00:08:32] by someone whose income is not taxable. Oh brother, what is the fault of the student
[00:08:36] who goes to university? He isn't even earning. So, those who are not
[00:08:40] earning are paying a levy of 1900 billion rupees.
[00:08:43] And the feudal lords and big landlords who own hundreds of acres of land, they haven't even collected
[00:08:47] 12 billion rupees in all of Pakistan. This is elite capture,
[00:08:50] so tell me, if we keep looking at their Section 144,
[00:08:54] they will continue to indulge in luxuries, they will continue to exploit us,
[00:08:58] and we will remain spectators and accept their every
[00:09:02] word. Therefore, it is our right, and this is an illegal and wrong
[00:09:05] use of Section 144 by the government to do what it wants, and
[00:09:09] it cannot be accepted. On August
[00:09:12] 8th, an organization of transporters,
[00:09:15] called All Pakistan Goods Transporters Alliance, has also
[00:09:19] called for a protest on August 8th. So, will you
[00:09:25] with them, that you are protesting on August 7th and they are protesting on August
[00:09:28] 8th?
[00:09:31] Look, they also have the right to protest; they are also troubled because, obviously, prices
[00:09:34] of everything increase, right? So, they are also troubled. We
[00:09:38] have constant contact with them. This announcement is mainly from their
[00:09:41] organizations in Karachi, and people from Punjab and other parts
[00:09:45] of the country are also joining them. And it is their
[00:09:49] right to raise their voice. But we announced
[00:09:52] this protest a week and a half ago. And right now, rallies are happening all over Pakistan. Young people
[00:09:56] have come out and are contacting people. Look, I want to tell
[00:10:00] you again that we want to remain peaceful; we want to protest peacefully.
[00:10:04] It is the government's job not to let this peaceful
[00:10:08] protest fall victim to any kind of adventure. Jamaat-e-Islami is an organization
[00:10:11] throughout Pakistan. We have organized people everywhere, Alhamdullilah, we have
[00:10:15] support, and especially since this is a public issue, we are not raising
[00:10:18] our voice for our party or our leader, this protest is not for Naeem-ur-Rehman,
[00:10:22] it is for the 250 million people
[00:10:25] of Pakistan, it is for the millions of young people of Pakistan. That's why I
[00:10:28] want to warn the government that if it tries to do any adventure,
[00:10:32] then Jamaat-e-Islami also knows other ways which we don't
[00:10:36] want to use. We know how to spread this protest, Alhamdullilah,
[00:10:40] and we know how things are spread like this.
[00:10:44] Lest this movement to reduce petrol prices turns into a movement to
[00:10:47] overthrow the government. So, Shahbaz Sharif Sahib should avoid this and
[00:10:51] should give us the right to peaceful protest. Okay, Hafiz Sahib.
[00:10:55] You are talking about the government, so yesterday in our program,
[00:10:59] the Prime Minister's advisor, Rana Sanaullah Sahib,
[00:11:02] was present. I asked him that Jamaat-e-Islami is closing roads
[00:11:06] on August 7th, so what is your opinion on that? So, he
[00:11:10] replied, please listen to it if you don't mind, and then if you deem
[00:11:13] it appropriate, give a reply. Sir, Jamaat-e-Islami
[00:11:17] does not generally make such announcements, but now they are saying
[00:11:21] that on August 7th, we will close all highways in Pakistan.
[00:11:25] So, this announcement,
[00:11:28] no, Jamaat-e-Islami sometimes
[00:11:32] makes such announcements, but they don't
[00:11:36] act upon them. So, they have made
[00:11:39] this announcement with you, but on August 7th, they will not act upon
[00:11:42] it. So, Hafiz Sahib, he said that you have announced
[00:11:46] to close the roads on August 7th, but he thinks that you will
[00:11:50] not act upon it.
[00:11:53] Well, August 7th will come.
[00:11:55] Then, Inshallah, your program will also happen. Then invite Rana Sanaullah Sahib and ask
[00:11:59] him. Look, obviously, he is in the government, and he
[00:12:03] might have to talk like that,
[00:12:06] what is the issue? The issue is the public,
[00:12:10] the people who are dying daily. Address that.
[00:12:13] They started talks with IPPs; they talked to 17-18 IPPs,
[00:12:17] and that helped. As a result, electricity bills came down.
[00:12:21] Earlier, they used to say, when we started the sit-in, you must remember, you also did a program,
[00:12:25] they used to say it's out of the question to talk to any IPP. But on the
[00:12:29] fourteenth day of the sit-in, they also made an agreement with us, and we also pursued it, and later it was also verbal.
[00:12:33] Anyway, they talked to 18-19, then it became a mess.
[00:12:36] So why is there a need for sit-ins? Why is there a need to close roads?
[00:12:40] Don't you know what is better? More than 8
[00:12:44] thousand billion rupees in levy has been collected from the people
[00:12:48] of Pakistan as petroleum development levy only, Hamid Mir Sahib. This meant
[00:12:52] that they would increase the refinery capacity, and they would increase
[00:12:55] it. If they had invested 2,000 billion rupees in this capacity,
[00:12:59] our import bill would have decreased by five to six billion dollars.
[00:13:02] But in this period, no one did anything. They didn't do it
[00:13:06] in four years, the one before them didn't. The five years before that didn't.
[00:13:10] The five to ten years before that didn't. They have been collecting this levy for almost 20
[00:13:13] years. So tell me, you are collecting money from the nation
[00:13:17] for a specific purpose, but you are
[00:13:21] not using it. Okay. Okay, you gave us the figures
[00:13:26] that in February, meaning February 2026,
[00:13:29] the price of petrol in the international market
[00:13:33] was 72 dollars per barrel,
[00:13:36] and at that time, the price of petrol was
[00:13:39] 258 rupees per liter. Is that what you said,
[00:13:41] right? And exactly. And now you are saying
[00:13:45] that the price of petrol in the international market is 74 dollars per barrel,
[00:13:49] and in Pakistan, the price of oil is 333 rupees
[00:13:52] per liter. What
[00:14:00] do you want the government to do in terms of reducing
[00:14:04] petrol and diesel prices in your protest
[00:14:07] tomorrow? How much of a reduction
[00:14:10] would make you happy and
[00:14:13] satisfied? Look, our demand right now is that the figure
[00:14:17] of 225 rupees is achievable. This is not something
[00:14:21] impossible. They are getting it at 209 rupees or approximately 213 rupees ex-refinery. And based on that,
[00:14:29] they can provide petrol at 225 rupees, and diesel at almost the same price.
[00:14:33] This levy, I don't understand, the petroleum
[00:14:37] levy has no connection with the tax on petrol nor with the import-export
[00:14:41] of petrol. They have imposed this levy just to hide their incompetence.
[00:14:44] FBR staff do not meet their targets. They have 25,000 staff members
[00:14:48] and they use cars worth millions of rupees. Your demand is
[00:14:53] the price be reduced from 333 rupees per liter
[00:14:57] to 225 rupees per liter. And
[00:15:01] my demand, Hamid Mir Sahib, is absolutely logical
[00:15:05] because they are collecting almost 80 rupees as levy, and it has
[00:15:08] no connection with the price. So, they should fix their FBR and
[00:15:12] reduce their expenses. They should reduce their cars to 1300 CC.
[00:15:16] They should reduce their luxuries. They should use their planes less.
[00:15:19] They shouldn't buy new cars, then this thing will automatically
[00:15:23] improve, and as soon as the petrol price decreases. Okay, sir. Now, please tell us how long
[00:15:27] you will sit on the road after starting the protest at 4 PM
[00:15:30] tomorrow?
[00:15:33] Well, we will start now and then we will look at the situation and
[00:15:36] it is possible that we will
[00:16:07] assess the situation at that time. It is also possible that we ask
[00:16:11] people to prolong it, and it is also possible that we start sit-ins at a few
[00:16:14] other specific locations and call it off elsewhere.
[00:16:18] But we will consult at that time. It also depends on the government. If
[00:16:21] the government creates trouble, these 510 locations can become 1500.
[00:16:25] That's a straight talk. So, they should
[00:16:29] understand the mood of our protest. This is not what Sanaullah
[00:16:32] Rana Sahib is saying, that they will announce and not do it. They will know tomorrow,
[00:16:36] Inshallah. Okay, thank you very much. Hafiz
[00:16:42] Naeem-ur-Rehman Sahib said that on August 7th, why are they protesting? The matter is such that it is also necessary for the government to give its stance on it. In the past, we have many times taken the stance
[00:16:46] of Petroleum Minister Ali Pervez Malik Sahib on this matter.
[00:16:49] Today also, we tried to get his stance,
[00:16:53] but today he is not available. Whenever he is available, our
[00:16:56] forum is ready. He can give his point of view
[00:17:00] here. Here, we take a break. We will meet again after the break.
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[00:22:03] Welcome back to Capital Talk. And finally, we will talk about
[00:22:07] a story published in the British newspaper The Guardian.
[00:22:11] And the story is about Mr. Akhtar
[00:22:15] Ahmad, a newly elected member of the Azad Kashmir
[00:22:18] Assembly. Former.
[00:22:43] So we have contacted our special correspondent in London, Murtaza Shah Sahib. Let's ask Murtaza Shah Sahib what the details are, whether he talked to Mr. Rukhsar, and
[00:22:46] whether he talked to the concerned
[00:22:50] police. Yes, Murtaza Shah Sahib, what information do you
[00:22:53] have? Rukhsar Ahmad
[00:22:57] has to appear before the Manchester Police in the next month
[00:23:00] and a half. His bail is currently on police bail,
[00:23:04] and he will have to appear before the police to extend his bail or to get updates
[00:23:08] on his case. I contacted Rukhsar
[00:23:11] Ahmad, Chaudhry Rukhsar. He said that he would not talk
[00:23:15] about this case at all. He refused to talk
[00:23:19] about it, but I spoke to his legal team
[00:23:22] here, his solicitor, and he said that
[00:23:26] all these allegations are false. He also said that the
[00:23:29] newspaper not only printed false allegations, but he also
[00:23:33] said that the restaurant they claim belongs to his family is
[00:23:37] also false. He also said that regarding the police bail
[00:23:40] claim, he said that Rukhsar
[00:23:44] Ahmad cannot go to the police station by force. He said that
[00:23:48] the police have not yet given him any
[00:23:51] indication that he has to appear before the police.
[00:23:55] He did confirm that he was arrested,
[00:23:58] but he says that he is innocent at this stage. He has not
[00:24:02] been charged, his trial has not taken place, and
[00:24:06] that no allegation has been proven yet because the trial has not taken place.
[00:24:10] But he said that his client, Rukhsar Ahmad,
[00:24:14] has rejected all the allegations in the police interview,
[00:24:17] and he believes that all these allegations are
[00:24:21] false. Chaudhry Rukhsar won the elections in Azad Kashmir
[00:24:25] by a lead of approximately seven to eight thousand votes.
[00:24:29] When we contacted the Greater Manchester Police for this program
[00:24:32] to get their version, the police said in this regard that they
[00:24:36] would not give any statement, and the police said
[00:24:39] that they would not comment on the questions
[00:24:43] being asked to them. Okay, thank you very much,
[00:24:46] sir. We also contacted Rukhsar Sahib, but he
[00:24:50] did not give any reply about this. Anyway, there are many
[00:24:54] allegations and many questions, and according
[00:24:57] to our information, some other British newspapers are also following this
[00:25:01] case. Anyway, the elections of the Azad Kashmir
[00:25:05] Assembly, their third phase is still
[00:25:08] pending, and when the third phase is completed, then we will talk
[00:25:12] about it in more detail. Until then, please excuse us. Allah
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[00:30:26] On the invitation of the Saudi Crown Prince, Prime Minister Shahbaz
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