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[00:00:00] also playing up with each other.
[00:00:02] because I think that the Muslim world should unite on this platform
[00:00:06] that we have created. This is the beginning of the unity
[00:00:09] of the Islamic world, whether it is our bilateral disputes. I think
[00:00:13] they should also come to this platform, all of us Muslim countries,
[00:00:18] fundamental and here, this common threat. I consider it a common threat that can be profitable
[00:00:22] for anyone. The relationship with Israel,
[00:00:26] thank you very much, Defense Minister Khawaja Asif's statement regarding this agreement,
[00:00:30] you have heard it. After the police and medico-legal department in the case of Mir
[00:00:33] Raza Ali, questions have been raised about the role of the Sindh government. Within
[00:00:37] 24 hours, four notifications were issued for the exhumation of Mir Raza Ali's
[00:00:41] grave and the formation of a medical board for a second post-mortem. First,
[00:00:45] not a very good place, yesterday evening, Police Surgeon Dr. Sumaiya Syed issued a notification
[00:00:49] for an eight-member medical board. Then, late at night, the eight-member medical
[00:00:53] board was changed through a notification from the office of DG Sindh Hyderabad,
[00:00:56] and no one else except Dr. Sumaiya Syed was included in the new five-member medical board,
[00:01:00] and Dr. Sumaiya Syed herself was retained as the convener of the medical board.
[00:01:04] Whereas, in the new five-member
[00:01:07] with a wish list. medical board, Dr. Zakiruddin, a forensic expert from Dow University Karachi, Dr. Qazi Akbar, a forensic
[00:01:11] expert from Liaquat University of Medical and Health Sciences Jamshoro,
[00:01:14] Dr. Adid Hussain Chand, a pathologist from Liaquat University of Medical and Health Sciences
[00:01:18] Jamshoro, Police Surgeon Hyderabad Dr. Waseem Khan, and Police
[00:01:21] Surgeon Karachi Dr. Sumaiya Syed, were included as convener of the medical board.
[00:01:24] The exhumation of Mir Raza Ali's grave could not be done.
[00:01:29] that there was a debt of three crore. The parents refused to allow
[00:01:53] and then it didn't happen. It was already
[00:02:00] the exhumation, and the exhumation
[00:02:02] to you people. was postponed. And then, a little while ago, the Sindh government's health
[00:02:06] department issued a new notification and reinstated the eight-member
[00:02:09] medical board under the leadership of Police Surgeon
[00:02:12] Dr. Syed. Along with this, the notification also
[00:02:15] added that if the medical board wishes, it can include any other expert.
[00:02:19] Mir Raza's grave will be exhumed,
[00:02:23] and the police and other officials have been ordered to prepare.
[00:02:26] Mir Raza Ali's grave will be exhumed, and the police and other officials have been ordered to prepare.
[00:03:00] that he died, and they don't know how. They are saying it was murder,
[00:03:04] the police keep saying through their sources that it was
[00:03:08] suicide. Now, when the court said today, how difficult
[00:03:11] is it for a family, for parents to go to court and say that their daughter's
[00:03:14] body should be exhumed again, that a post-mortem should be done again, that they should be ready for this,
[00:03:18] that they should go themselves,
[00:03:21] why it was stopped, then reach the graveyard themselves, and then suddenly the board is changed
[00:03:24] late at night, last night. The court had ordered the police surgeon and health secretary,
[00:03:27] but at night, neither the health secretary nor the health minister
[00:04:00] We want our police
[00:04:03] surgeon to come to your program and she
[00:04:07] said something contradictory to the post-mortem
[00:04:10] report, so to improve
[00:04:14] that, we had the option
[00:04:17] that we should form a team of good
[00:04:20] reputable doctors and they should do
[00:04:24] the post-mortem of the body,
[00:04:27] so the health secretary ordered the DG
[00:04:31] Health and the DG Health
[00:04:33] issued
[00:04:35] his notification.
[00:04:39] Now, see that he then issued a notification because
[00:04:42] the court had already told the police surgeon and the health
[00:04:46] secretary. The police surgeon announced an eight-member
[00:04:49] Look, the thing is board. You are saying good reputable ones. Was
[00:04:51] there no good reputable one in Karachi
[00:04:54] seen it in your footage, that a notification for three doctors from Hyderabad was issued at 12 o'clock at night, cancelling
[00:04:58] the first notification?
[00:05:42] They are also in the other one. Among them, those who are with them, because they are not in the other board,
[00:05:46] whose reputation among them is bad? These are very senior people.
[00:05:49] Look, I am not questioning
[00:05:53] anyone's reputation. I am telling you
[00:05:56] that a post-mortem was done.
[00:05:59] Unfortunately, our police surgeon distorted
[00:06:03] it. She is a government servant,
[00:06:06] and the police surgeon in your
[00:06:10] program, what she said about the post-mortem,
[00:07:12] that she can affect anyone, so she can affect the eight,
[00:07:15] but this method is not right that someone's
[00:07:19] case, a child's case, to ruin it,
[00:07:22] or I would say that
[00:07:25] certainly, the government has no concern
[00:07:28] if it is suicide
[00:07:32] or cold-blooded murder.
[00:07:34] But its investigation must happen. But let me
[00:07:38] tell you one thing that the post-mortem
[00:07:41] in a murder
[00:07:46] case, we want to give justice to this
[00:07:50] family and also do justice with them so that
[00:07:54] in the future, certainly, based on these post-mortem
[00:07:57] reports, there will certainly be some questions
[00:08:01] and this matter will go to court, these cases will run
[00:08:05] in courts, and if a post-mortem report
[00:08:08] becomes questionable here, then the body is exhumed, and after that,
[00:09:42] how much blood has been absorbed in the soil. So the police
[00:09:46] have also been instructed to look into all this carefully, because they found a bullet casing
[00:09:50] from a distance of two feet eight days later, even though that place
[00:09:53] had been cleaned many times. Questions are also being raised about this,
[00:09:57] that now a casing has been found, maybe a pistol will also be invented.
[00:10:01] that the area there, if you have
[00:10:06] there has been a lot of foot traffic after the
[00:10:10] murder.
[00:10:12] So if you look at it, due to the foot
[00:10:16] traffic, the bullet casing is very small.
[00:10:20] They are saying it is a 30 bore pistol
[00:10:23] from which that bullet came out.
[00:10:27] So there is certainly no malice on the part
[00:10:30] of the police, and if it has been found,
[00:10:34] it is evidence. And unless
[00:10:37] the pistol is found, that evidence,
[00:10:40] the casing, has no
[00:10:43] importance, unless that casing is found
[00:10:47] and a fire is done from it
[00:10:51] and matched. Otherwise, it is very difficult.
[00:10:54] And you will see that there is some
[00:10:58] grass in that area. I don't want to protect
[00:11:01] anyone, but sometimes it happens that the area
[00:11:05] where this incident happened is a filthy place,
[00:11:10] a clean place where this happened. So I myself
[00:11:13] gave them proper orders to do a proper sweeping and
[00:11:17] to look at everything carefully. As far as you mentioned
[00:11:21] blood, yes, they have picked up
[00:11:25] that soil there.
[00:11:29] I still cannot say with certainty because I have
[00:11:32] not reconfirmed it. That soil should also be picked
[00:11:36] up from there, and where that dead body is,
[00:11:39] all the bricks or whatever
[00:11:43] things are there, they should be made case property
[00:11:46] and chemical examination should be done. Is there any pressure on the police
[00:11:50] to take this case in a certain direction? Is anyone trying to save someone, as the fears
[00:11:54] are being expressed?
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[00:16:32] Interior Minister Sanjar Sahib had promised us in the program that the board would change
[00:16:35] as the parents wished. And it would be the one
[00:16:39] that the parents were saying, and the parents were obviously saying what the court
[00:16:43] had ordered, that the board formed by the Karachi police surgeon
[00:16:46] under the court's order should be reinstated, which had been changed
[00:16:50] repeatedly through notifications. And now, according to his
[00:16:54] commitment, the board has been changed, and the board that was formed earlier
[00:16:58] under the court's order, which the Karachi police surgeon had formed, which the parents were asking to be reinstated,
[00:17:01] has been reinstated. But amidst
[00:17:05] all this, the parents, whose son had already passed away,
[00:17:09] today went through another agony. They had to visit their son's
[00:17:12] grave in the graveyard. Now, do they trust? We have Maryam
[00:17:16] Hussain Sahiba, mother of Mir Raza Ali, Mir Hussain Ali Sahib, father of Mir Raza Ali, and Jibran
[00:17:19] Nasir Sahib, lawyer of Mir Raza Ali Sahib. Thank you very much to all three of you. Maryam Hussain Sahiba, please tell us first.
[00:17:23] Obviously, it was already a very difficult time, and today was another difficult time
[00:17:27] regarding the exhumation of her son's grave,
[00:17:31] a difficult stage to agree to it. The Interior Minister
[00:17:34] had given a commitment, will it be as the parents want?
[00:18:38] Are you satisfied now? Are you confident? If we were confident yesterday,
[00:18:42] we would have gone for it. We stayed up all night,
[00:18:45] thinking that we have to exhume our son from the grave in the morning
[00:18:49] and then we have to perform the rituals, so for us,
[00:18:53] it was the same scenario as the 29th, but we still don't understand
[00:18:59] and then the same thing happened again today, so now it's about trust,
[00:19:02] and we don't know how much
[00:19:06] we can trust it.
[00:20:07] My trust has been shaken. She is absolutely right. What she has been put through, she is absolutely
[00:20:11] right. What would you say as a lawyer? You have seen countless
[00:20:15] cases, you observe matters very closely. Now the board has been reinstated.
[00:20:18] The agony and
[00:20:22] confusion and tug of war that the parents went through
[00:20:25] from last night until today noon at the graveyard,
[00:20:28] that shows the decline of our moral and social
[00:20:32] values. Because these politicians
[00:20:35] and our rulers have come out of the same society.
[00:20:39] Secondly, with great respect, Mr. Zia Ansar
[00:20:42] said that the board will be formed according to the parents' wishes. This
[00:20:46] is a political statement. The reality is that the board will be formed according to the law.
[00:20:51] This was the demand of the parents. And now this board that has been reconstituted,
[00:20:54] the original order of the police surgeon that you have revived,
[00:20:58] you have upheld the law. Which we were repeatedly pointing
[00:21:02] out through a press conference this morning, that you have a special
[00:21:05] law, the Sindh Medico-Legal Act, it has a section 16,
[00:21:09] in which specifically when it comes to exhumation,
[00:21:13] a special medical board will be formed separately for it.
[00:21:16] It is different from age assessment or other cases where special medical
[00:21:20] boards are formed to challenge post-mortems. And its authority, once
[00:21:23] a magistrate gives an order, rests with the police surgeon, and he will bring
[00:21:27] forensic experts from the closest possible public
[00:21:30] university or medical college. They will not be from
[00:21:34] another city. So these were the legal demands. This law was
[00:21:38] made by this party during its rule, so they implemented it.
[00:21:41] So don't give it this color that it is being formed according to the parents'
[00:21:44] wishes, because the parents are not asking for their own wishes
[00:21:48] in the investigation. The parents have been asking
[00:21:52] for the implementation of the law in their case from the first day. We are not sitting
[00:21:57] Is this not the implementation of the law that it should happen,
[00:22:00] that the things that the media finds out first from the police
[00:22:04] and the investigating officer are not known to the family for days?
[00:22:08] We find out from the media that another CCTV
[00:22:12] has come. We find out from the media that a casing has come.
[00:22:15] We find out from the media We find out from the media that people are saying
[00:22:50] nothing happens
[00:22:52] No, Jibran,
[00:22:56] this is unique. You
[00:22:58] see many criminal cases. This is a bit too much. Obviously,
[00:23:02] the injustices that happen, we see them with different people.
[00:23:05] This is a bit too much in this case.
[00:23:09] Look, the one
[00:23:12] who is gone is gone. This quest
[00:23:15] for justice that the parents are struggling for,
[00:23:19] this is a charity. Or understand that the public, the youth, are getting legal
[00:23:23] awareness about the reality of our criminal justice system
[00:23:26] and the police and institutions and departments.
[00:23:30] And this humiliation, I will call it humiliation, the agony you are going through,
[00:23:34] many families go through emotional trauma, and here, at least, there is media,
[00:23:38] we find out. There, people don't even find out, and we keep
[00:23:41] pursuing. In every case, we have to file an application to change the investigation,
[00:23:45] more than one. And the family has never closed their doors on the police.
[00:23:48] It's a strange joke.