GEONEWS — broadcast 20260920 023000 UTC 377 transcript segments Google Cloud Speech-to-Text API (Chirp) + Gemini 2.5 Flash Non-Thinking Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:00:00] It is the responsibility of the government. Undoubtedly, the Prime Minister [00:00:03] has made many offers. But it's not just about making offers. [00:00:07] For that, a lot of effort has to be made, a lot of struggle has to be made. [00:00:10] A lot of effort has to be made. Secondly, you [00:00:14] see that you are saying that we are giving relief to the people. [00:00:17] Viewers, with this hope And why isn't there an impact on the people? [00:00:20] Firstly, as I said, when government [00:00:23] departments, whether federal or provincial, [00:00:27] are corrupt, and the way they harass [00:00:31] traders, industrialists, [00:00:35] and the entire business circle, the hatred against the government [00:00:38] increases. Similarly, you have a [00:00:42] crisis. In this crisis, [00:00:46] you are present in the form of a government. [00:00:49] You buy a plane that has created a whole controversy for you. [00:00:53] The provincial government has bought it, and more money has gone to [00:00:57] the provinces. The province and Islamabad are one [00:01:11] you protect the diplomatic area, [00:01:25] Sahib said that there is no magic wand [00:01:39] and the same today. Similarly, you see that when [00:01:42] a common man sees that there are chief ministers, [00:01:45] governors, ministers, senior [00:01:49] ministers, Dr. Sahib, they are like us, aren't they? [00:01:52] When large convoys of protocol pass by, [00:01:55] and they blow smoke in people's faces, [00:01:58] okay? They are in large, safe, [00:02:03] But when rulers, with their actions, bulletproof cars, but the hatred of the people [00:02:05] an advantage in the fight increases, and the intensity of emotions [00:02:09] arises in people that what is the country, [00:02:12] what is the economy, where are we sinking, [00:02:16] but their protocols do not stop. So I think that overall, [00:02:21] I have also said this in your program that becomes a separate topic, there is a long discussion on it. [00:02:24] On [00:02:27] a letter, we are saying relief that you have [00:02:31] one rupee, 1006 [00:02:33] rupees relief. In that too, you see where [00:02:36] else you can make cuts for it. [00:02:39] In the political arena, So you should give the economy such a message [00:02:43] that the whole circle runs. Now people [00:02:46] produce products, give them to the market, [00:02:50] and don't get their money back. Businesses are collapsing. [00:02:54] Social problems are increasing with great [00:02:57] intensity. So this is a very [00:03:00] serious matter, and Jamaat-e-Islami [00:03:04] has not taken a single step forward [00:03:08] in this political turmoil. We are drawing the government's attention [00:03:11] to public issues with full reasoning, [00:03:14] full seriousness, and civility. [00:03:18] But when butter doesn't come out with straight fingers, then [00:03:22] people vomit themselves. How will Dr. [00:03:25] Sahib deal with their protest? [00:03:30] Because on one hand, you people say that they are noble people, [00:03:34] disciplined people. They will [00:03:37] not hold any event. So will [00:03:40] their march be allowed or [00:03:43] will you stop it? I will just make [00:03:47] two points and then come directly to your [00:03:49] then what will happen? question. The request is that as [00:03:54] decision clearly Mr. Baloch said, he thanked us for the negotiations that took place with us, [00:03:57] and he declared them serious and meaningful. [00:04:02] And he said that the government carried them out with great care and attention. [00:04:05] As far as the matter of public is concerned, [00:04:08] look, I have a bit of a [00:04:12] concern that in Jamaat-e-Islami's sit-ins, public participation [00:04:15] and mobilization is low. Their own workers [00:04:19] are certainly present there. As for the [00:04:23] ongoing negotiations, as you asked, [00:04:26] sir, if they reach a logical conclusion, [00:04:30] then I think they should be allowed to reach it. When [00:04:34] and behind it, you bring a sit-in and a movement [00:04:37] and block the street, then the element of civility [00:04:41] ends. Then it's a power struggle, [00:04:44] and I am always against power struggles in politics. [00:04:47] needs. Now you said how will they deal with it in Islamabad, the three dates coming up, [00:04:51] for the system, the doors of the Prime Minister that is, 23rd, 25th and [00:04:55] the Turkish Foreign Minister said 27th. Look, we have [00:04:58] two options. One option is that we leave Islamabad open, [00:05:02] whoever comes here, brings their march, [00:05:05] and sits wherever they want. After that, that march, many times in the past, [00:05:09] you have seen that they become uncontrolled mobs. [00:05:13] Then those groups also commit violence here, and after that, [00:05:17] public or private property is also damaged. Your studio here [00:05:20] has also been attacked, you know, glass was broken, [00:05:24] and all during these marches that political parties have done in the past, and especially PTI, there is no harm in taking names. [00:05:27] Then after that, the leaders disassociate themselves from those workers [00:05:31] who participate in such activities when their pictures and videos [00:05:35] are shown that we have no connection with them. So option number one [00:05:39] is whether Islamabad can be left open. [00:05:43] Islamabad cannot be handed over to any mob. [00:05:46] Firstly, there is a civilian population of seven to eight lakhs here. [00:05:50] Overall, there are 25 to 30 lakhs in Islamabad. Then the biggest thing is that [00:05:53] your embassies are here. All your diplomatic corps [00:05:56] are sitting here. The whole world is watching [00:05:59] what is happening in Islamabad. Sadi Sahib, I will tell you an administrative [00:06:02] thing. That when [00:06:05] you have to stop a mob, you cannot stop them at the gate of the diplomatic area. [00:06:09] If they are coming from KPK, you have to stop them at Attock. [00:06:13] If they are coming from Punjab, you have to stop them at Rawat. [00:06:17] If they are coming from Murree side, you have to stop them at Bara Chhattar. [00:06:20] Only then, thinned out, [00:06:24] the red zone. So this is the second [00:06:28] option, and of course, we will go with this option, and at this time, [00:06:31] the clear directions in the High Court's decision [00:06:35] to the administration of Islamabad are that the freedom of movement of the citizens [00:06:39] of Islamabad in their public places, [00:06:43] protect them, protect their rights, and no one is allowed [00:06:46] to disturb the peace and order situation of Islamabad and the citizens here. [00:06:50] Look, what the High Court has said is about the constitutional [00:06:53] rights of the citizens of Islamabad. You have constitutional rights, [00:06:57] I have constitutional rights, sir has constitutional rights. [00:07:01] Can I, by raising the slogan of my constitutional rights, infringe on your constitutional rights? [00:07:04] None of us three can. My constitutional rights extend [00:07:08] to not infringing on your constitutional rights. One umbrella [00:12:00] once again to the Jirga. Mallow [00:12:04] Sahib, the High Court's decision [00:12:07] stated that no one has the right [00:12:11] to block the roads of Islamabad. So how will [00:12:15] you people ensure that no road in Islamabad is blocked? [00:12:18] The problem is that the High Court's decisions are, [00:12:22] of course, court decisions. We respect them very much. [00:12:28] stop people's livelihoods, [00:12:31] shut down people's stoves, [00:12:33] stop people's entire movement, [00:12:37] and create the worst problems [00:12:41] for people, then I think that [00:12:44] there is a bigger decision than the High Court's decision, [00:12:48] which is the Constitution of Pakistan. And the Constitution of Pakistan [00:12:52] says that people's food security should be ensured. [00:12:55] There should be safety for people. There should be employment for people. [00:12:59] There should be fair distribution of resources for people. [00:13:02] This elite will get all these things from a march. [00:13:06] Obviously, if a targeted [00:13:10] subsidy, as they are saying, we [00:13:13] targeted solutions that are in the interest [00:13:16] of the country, in the interest of the people, [00:13:20] for the relief of the people, then it has its effect. [00:13:23] Even then, the rulers of IPPs were not listening. Dr. [00:13:27] Sahib is present. In the first two [00:13:31] rounds, we spent our time on saying, "No, just talk." [00:13:34] But when the talks started, [00:13:37] today there is a relief of [00:13:41] 4300 billion rupees. And there will be more relief [00:13:44] as we move forward. This is for the benefit of the country. [00:13:48] Meaning, in the past too, these wrong decisions were made. [00:13:51] And all the IPP projects were set up at a higher [00:13:55] rate, wrongly set up. They were not according to capacity, [00:13:58] and they are useless. But you don't do that work, [00:14:01] you don't take electricity, you are making payments to them. [00:14:05] But when, in view of the reasons you have stated, you will not implement [00:14:09] the High Court's order, if the road is blocked, [00:14:14] I think we will neither block the road nor trouble the people. [00:14:18] We will provide relief to the people, God willing. [00:14:20] How far will your march come? Will it come to Islamabad? [00:14:24] No, Islamabad is a big Islamabad, isn't it? Will it come to D-Chowk? [00:14:26] Or will it come to China Chowk? [00:14:30] Or will it come to F9 Park? Everyone wants it to come [00:14:34] to D-Chowk. Okay, at D-Chowk, [00:14:37] people's problem is that Islamabad [00:14:41] belongs to everyone. Now, if people [00:14:45] don't get relief from Islamabad, if Islamabad's [00:14:47] wrong policies make people's lives difficult, [00:14:50] and people are committing suicide, [00:14:53] a great social disaster is unfolding, [00:14:59] where the political crisis has its own effect, the effect of stealing the electoral [00:15:03] mandate in democracy, but along with that, [00:15:06] a major economic impact is creating [00:15:10] great unrest among the people. At this time, our [00:15:14] issue is to create ease for the people. [00:15:18] Let's sit tonight, let's solve this problem today, [00:15:21] let's give relief to the people. We will reconsider [00:15:25] our protest. Okay, Dr. [00:15:28] Sahib, Jamaat-e-Islami wants to come to D-Chowk. [00:15:31] So will you allow them to come to D-Chowk? [00:15:34] Yes, on one hand, Jamaat-e-Islami wants to come to D-Chowk and sit there, [00:15:38] and on the other hand, they are also saying that we will not block [00:15:41] any road in Islamabad. So these are two contradictory statements. [00:15:45] Sitting at D-Chowk, even if there is a crowd of a few hundred people here, [00:15:49] Islamabad is a square, [00:15:52] D-Chowk is the main traffic artery of Islamabad. And with people's presence here, [00:15:56] Islamabad is divided into two parts. Those who know Islamabad [00:15:59] know that it creates such a huge inconvenience for people [00:16:03] that at least no government allows it. [00:16:07] Secondly, even if your marches [00:16:11] have been peaceful, still, no risk can be taken [00:16:13] for the safety of the families, houses, and population [00:16:17] in Islamabad that you allow any mob to [00:16:21] enter the streets of Islamabad city. One [00:16:25] question of mine, which you have more or less already asked Mr. Baloch, [00:16:28] is whether choking Islamabad, I will put it in simpler words, [00:16:32] will choking Islamabad solve all these problems? [00:16:35] If you choke Islamabad, [00:16:37] will new resources emerge after that? [00:16:41] Will we get a magic wand? Look, these [00:16:45] problems need resources to be solved. [00:16:49] And to bring resources, I said earlier that no individual [00:16:52] is in that position at this time because [00:16:56] they say that earlier, under such pressure, you people solved the IPP problem. [00:17:00] No, it could [00:17:03] be Jamaat-e-Islami's flattery that it was done under pressure. [00:17:06] The opportunity for that arose because proper dialogues [00:17:10] and negotiations were held with them, and the agreements [00:17:13] they had were renegotiated, and [00:17:16] Mr. Low Sahib rightly said that Pakistan got a relief of [00:17:20] more than three thousand rupees in this, or in the coming [00:17:23] years, they will benefit from it. So what I am saying [00:17:27] is that there is a need to pay attention to the shortage of resources. [00:17:31] This problem will not be solved by sticks, [00:17:34] nor by showing each other [00:17:37] who will dominate which city, and who will gain [00:17:42] or power struggle with the federal government. [00:17:45] These problems will not be solved by this, but will increase. [00:17:49] So, regarding national harmony, you also said that it is the responsibility of politicians. [00:17:53] I fully support this statement of yours. [00:17:58] that it is the responsibility of politicians that we handle all these [00:18:02] situations. Tell me which party, [00:18:06] leaving Jamaat-e-Islami aside, which other party [00:18:10] is not in the government in different provinces and the federation of Pakistan? [00:18:13] So realize this responsibility. [00:18:17] oppose each other politically, [00:18:19] but [00:18:22] a family, Sahib, whose monthly [00:18:26] income is low, [00:18:30] and whose expenses are much higher than that, [00:18:33] will always be in a state of distress. They will manage from here, [00:18:37] from there, and this is the condition of Pakistan, our home. [00:18:40] No, it is our home, but Liaquat Baloch Sahib [00:18:44] says that its constitution allows them [00:18:47] to. So they want to come to D-Chowk. [00:18:51] So will your government and peacefully, but [00:18:55] they want to come to D-Chowk peacefully, so [00:18:58] will you use force to stop them? [00:19:02] See, they can also be stopped without using force. We have absolutely no [00:19:05] intention of using force [00:19:07] or creating a confrontational situation. We would be the last people [00:19:11] to even think of any kind of fighting or any kind [00:19:15] of tension on the streets. But if the Constitution [00:19:19] allows protest, [00:19:22] then the Constitution also places a responsibility [00:19:25] on us to maintain the law and order situation here. [00:19:28] The High Court's [00:19:31] gives directions to the Islamabad administration [00:19:35] that you cannot leave Islamabad open. Whoever comes here, [00:19:39] occupies any place they want, sits wherever they want, [00:19:43] and after that, it is not so easy to restore [00:19:46] the normal life here. Why did Rana Sanaullah Sahib say [00:19:50] that we will treat them like terrorists? Look, in Islamabad, [00:19:53] I have said, Safi Sahib, that the history of peaceful marches, [00:19:57] especially of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf, shows that their marches [00:20:01] are violent, there is violence in them. [00:20:05] In fact, there are some such footages and intelligence information [00:20:09] that we had before, and even now, the information is not very good. [00:20:13] Many people have been involved in it, stick-wielding people have also been involved in it. [00:20:17] They are carrying sticks and committing violence here. [00:20:20] If this is not [00:20:23] terrorism, then what is it? Terrorism is what someone who is carrying out [00:20:26] suicide bombings or detonating bombs is doing. [00:20:30] Whoever takes the law into their own hands, based on their power, [00:20:34] whether it's a stick, or any weapon in their hand, [00:20:38] denying the rights of another citizen is terrorism. [00:20:41] If your media goes out of its bounds, [00:20:45] it is media terrorism. So Rana Sahib's [00:20:49] statement does not mean that they are terrorists, [00:20:52] but that they are outright terrorists. Do not infringe on the rights of others. [00:20:56] Okay, Baloch Sahib, have you people applied [00:20:59] to the Islamabad administration for permission? [00:21:02] Yes, we have submitted the application. There has [00:21:06] been a telephonic conference [00:21:10] with them. There were some engagements. [00:21:14] Later, they said that we have a meeting of the whole country tonight. [00:21:17] So maybe a meeting will take place tonight or tomorrow at some time. [00:21:21] Look, Safi Sahib, Dr. [00:21:24] Sahib, as a political worker myself, I believe [00:21:27] that peaceful political, constitutional, democratic [00:21:31] struggle is the beauty of both democracy [00:21:35] and politics, and it becomes the strength of [00:21:38] politics and democracy. If any party resorts to violence, [00:21:42] it creates harm for itself and for the country. [00:21:46] The biggest casualty is democracy and [00:21:48] a political process. Therefore, political [00:21:51] parties also have their own responsibility [00:21:55] to keep things peaceful. It is a misfortune that when political [00:21:59] parties themselves do not organize themselves, [00:22:02] when they do not strengthen a democratic [00:22:06] process within themselves, then things slip out of their own [00:22:09] hands. Secondly, Dr. [00:22:15] to solve these problems. The problem is that a magic wand is not needed. [00:22:18] What is needed is vision, targets, [00:22:22] and their execution. And as I said, we have [00:22:26] identified what possibilities are available [00:22:30] in all the budget documents. And no one has rejected it. [00:22:34] That's why I think that for this, there is no magic wand, [00:22:38] but a vision and actions and [00:22:41] decisions. And [00:22:44] if the government wants to give relief to the people, [00:22:48] then this protest becomes a great strength for them. [00:22:50] Okay, I wanted to know if you people [00:22:53] will protest for one day or [00:22:57] if you will come and sit at D-Chowk and hold a sit-in. [00:23:00] We will come. [00:23:03] If they give relief to the people at that time, we will salute [00:23:06] them and go back. If they don't give it, [00:23:10] then they will also be accountable, won't they? [00:23:13] Then you will keep sitting. We will try. [00:23:17] Okay, after that, Dr. [00:23:21] Sahib, they are not just protesting at D-Chowk, but they are holding a sit-in here. [00:23:25] Here. Please, [00:23:28] please. The problem is that D-Chowk is a [00:23:31] symbol. If a place is decided [00:23:35] for a peaceful protest anywhere in Islamabad, [00:23:39] Rana Sanaullah Sahib repeatedly said, [00:23:42] "Just come to the park, come and sit there." [00:23:46] The offer was from them too. [00:23:50] So I think it is possible that a place [00:23:54] will be agreed upon by the government and you people. An Islamic meeting will be held, [00:23:57] and if anything is agreed upon with them in the meeting, [00:24:00] and if our team here fundamentally [00:24:04] makes a decision with them, we will abide by that decision. [00:24:07] Dr. Sahib, [00:24:10] the request is that we have never claimed, [00:24:14] I am talking about the government, that we are omniscient. [00:24:17] And [00:24:19] the governance that exists at this time cannot be improved. [00:24:23] Both things can happen. Governance can be improved, [00:24:26] the flaws in the system can be removed. [00:24:30] Honorable Baloch Sahib just mentioned [00:24:34] many flaws in the system, apart from the petroleum issue. [00:24:38] Obviously, the debate has spread to various [00:24:41] topics. Multiple leakages and all have [00:24:45] been discussed, and reforms have been discussed, how can they be done in the system? [00:24:48] So I would say that [00:24:51] in one sitting or one or two [00:24:55] negotiations, neither all these reforms can be done, [00:24:58] nor all these issues of governance, [00:25:01] leakages in the system, and everywhere, as I said before, [00:25:04] and it's on record, if you look at all these things that happened today, [00:25:08] then the issues of the federal government in it [00:25:12] will appear less to you, and the matters related [00:25:15] to the provinces will show more issues and problems. [00:25:19] The provinces are ours too, the federation is everyone's. [00:25:23] So in one sit-in or one long march, you want to fix [00:25:26] all these things, from petroleum to taxation and corruption, [00:25:30] all the things that have been discussed, I will not repeat them again. [00:25:34] So this is not possible in this way. [00:25:37] If you want to give your positive input [00:25:41] are always open. The ministers are sitting with you, [00:25:45] you yourself admitted it with great sincerity. So take these things in that direction. [00:25:49] And if there is a sit-in here or if Islamabad is choked, [00:25:52] I have already discussed this in detail. Our senior [00:25:55] leadership, meaning senior ministers, are sitting [00:25:59] together, and if there is a place [00:26:03] where the movement of people and daily life is not disrupted, [00:26:06] then they should sit there. Okay, our prayer is that you can satisfy [00:26:10] them, and neither these people should be tested, [00:26:14] nor the citizens of Islamabad, nor their workers. [00:26:19] that you will keep informing us about your feedback regarding the program, [00:26:23] I seek permission with thanks to Dr. Tariq Fazli Sahib [00:26:26] and Mr. Liaquat Baloch Sahib from today's Jirga. God bless you. [00:26:30] God bless you. [00:26:47] Saga cruises, what's brings to mind? 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