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[00:00:19] Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif chaired
[00:00:19] the people. the first meeting of the monitoring committee related to Khyber Pakhtunkhwa.
[00:00:23] According to the agenda, future course of action and relief for the people of
[00:00:26] Khyber Pakhtunkhwa was also discussed.
[00:01:21] the reason is
[00:01:27] or nominated? One thing is
[00:01:49] project Pakistan as the villain that
[00:03:41] The provincial government has been rendered dysfunctional. It
[00:03:44] ceases to exist
[00:03:46] at this
[00:03:48] time. I was waiting for big people to come here to capture the Governor's House,
[00:03:52] but so far no one has scaled the wall, knocked on the door, or come.
[00:03:56] October 11.
[00:04:07] when it passes all the threshold
[00:04:33] matters, but despite
[00:04:46] were telling us one thing very
[00:04:58] civil Now you must be wondering
[00:05:02] what story, what script, and what
[00:05:05] characters are being talked about, so let me present the evidence before
[00:05:09] you. Just listen to what
[00:05:13] Shehbaz Sharif used to say about Governor Rule
[00:05:16] until a few years ago. The Punjab government was
[00:05:19] put under Governor
[00:05:22] Rule. Mr. Zardari,
[00:05:26] the robbery begins from your palace. I am a servant
[00:05:29] of the people. I serve
[00:05:32] This
[00:05:35] was back when President Zardari had invoked
[00:05:39] Article 245 of Shehbaz Sharif's government in Punjab.
[00:06:21] Under
[00:06:22] the army
[00:06:24] has also been given
[00:06:35] powers and this Governor's rule and
[00:06:39] emergency, we were informed about it by the federal
[00:06:42] minister Dr. Tariq Fazli Sahib many days ago and at
[00:06:46] that time our friends of Tehreek-e-Insaf used to say
[00:06:50] that if you have the courage, impose Governor's rule. Tariq Fazli Sahib was saying
[00:06:54] that no, emergency can be imposed. They used to say neither emergency nor
[00:06:58] Governor's rule. Listen to what Tariq Fazli Chaudhry Sahib had said at that time. The
[00:07:02] situation in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa regarding
[00:07:04] terrorism and lawlessness
[00:07:08] its reasons will become
[00:07:12] the cause of emergency. Long
[00:07:15] march or political movement is not the
[00:07:19] reason. So now the Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf
[00:07:23] members of parliament will remain in the assemblies
[00:07:26] after the imposition of emergency and Governor's rule,
[00:07:30] or will they not? We will discuss this.
[00:07:33] We have with us Barrister Aqeel Malik Sahib, Minister
[00:07:37] of State for Law and Justice, Shafqat Abbas Awan Sahib,
[00:07:41] who is an advocate and member
[00:09:12] it should also be in the joint sitting and its proper timelines have been given
[00:09:16] and through those timelines
[00:09:20] of timelines and then finally there are two extensions,
[00:09:24] the first phase and the last phase and in this then the maximum period is six
[00:09:28] months. The period is six months, until Governor's rule, which
[00:09:31] is in force under Article 234, so it
[00:09:35] can last for a maximum of six months. Okay, Mr. Shafqat
[00:09:38] Abbas Awan Sahib, you are also a legal expert and our
[00:09:42] minister is also a legal expert,
[00:09:45] but my question to you is a little different. Our
[00:09:49] programs of last week, your party's
[00:09:52] senior people, who are MNAs like you,
[00:09:58] clearly. Listen to what they were saying. One thing is absolutely clear.
[00:10:02] We have decided that if they impose Governor's rule
[00:10:06] or impose emergency or disqualify
[00:10:11] persons, then we will
[00:10:25] our people are humiliated daily and then we play assembly, assembly. We will not
[00:10:29] play assembly, assembly anymore. So Shafqat Sahib,
[00:10:32] Governor's rule has been imposed and emergency has also been imposed. Suhail Afridi Sahib
[00:10:36] has also been arrested. Are you resigning
[00:10:46] October 11 is a dark
[00:10:50] day for Pakistan's democracy, whatever kind of democracy
[00:10:54] it was. As for what you said
[00:10:56] about resignations, that was absolutely individual's opinion, but
[00:11:00] I don't think anything like that is going to happen yet. First of all, such a
[00:11:04] big decision can only be made by Imran Khan Sahib. No one else can.
[00:11:07] Okay, when Khan Sahib does it, it won't take a minute and everyone
[00:11:11] will resign, but this is pending. This matter
[00:11:15] of resignations is not worthy of consideration at all yet, and if this decision is
[00:11:19] made, it will be made by Khan Sahib himself. Okay,
[00:11:21] Barrister Aqeel Malik Sahib,
[00:11:25] how do you feel that until a few years ago, your party, the Muslim League
[00:11:29] N, used to oppose Governor's rule?
[00:11:32] Now today you are supporting it, and Tehreek-e-Insaf,
[00:11:36] which used to support it earlier, is now opposing it. Don't you think
[00:11:40] that this is the same story, but the characters change?
[00:11:44] No, I will not agree with this, and
[00:11:46] that the previous Governor's rule probably had some political
[00:11:50] considerations. This Governor's rule, this emergency
[00:11:53] that has been imposed, is solely
[00:11:57] from a counter-terrorism lens. It was viewed from that perspective.
[00:12:01] Safety and security, the protection of life and property, where
[00:12:05] the issues related to terrorism should have been advanced, which
[00:12:09] the government there did not advance. This story is very old,
[00:12:13] but the kind of misguided
[00:12:16] matter that was in the mind of this government,
[00:12:20] the PTI government, there were absolutely no political considerations,
[00:12:24] nor should there be. In this regard, the protection of life and
[00:12:27] property, the counter-terrorism efforts,
[00:12:31] we needed to do a better job,
[00:12:34] or that government needed to. Now the advisory
[00:12:37] council will do it, now the development
[00:12:41] council there will do it, and in this regard, the powers
[00:12:45] are now with the Governor Sahib. So, as you saw in his
[00:12:49] press conference today, it can
[00:12:51] clearly be said that the mess of the last 13
[00:12:55] years, in terms of counter-terrorism,
[00:12:58] which could not progress, the mess
[00:13:02] spread by PTI, due to their
[00:13:05] unwitting support for
[00:13:10] and their government's handling of all these matters,
[00:13:14] then Amir Sahib, tell me, what option did we
[00:13:17] have left? If we had completely
[00:13:21] abandoned it, then it is the constitutional responsibility of the federation, so
[00:13:25] the federation fulfilled that constitutional responsibility. Although this is a highly
[00:13:28] undesirable act. But absolutely as a matter of last
[00:13:31] resort, I said this in your program last time as well. Tell me, if they say that Governor's rule
[00:13:35] is undemocratic, it is according to them, unconstitutional,
[00:13:39] but it is mentioned in the constitution. But you just asked them a question.
[00:13:42] You said, are you resigning? So at that time,
[00:13:46] when Imran Khan Sahib and his party dissolved the assemblies of
[00:13:50] KP and Punjab, was that not an undemocratic
[00:13:53] act?
[00:14:30] On the matter of war against terrorism, if the government of
[00:14:33] Suhail Afridi Sahib had been on the same page as the federal government,
[00:14:37] this situation would not have arisen. They were coming to Islamabad through
[00:14:41] a long march to release Imran Khan, but they themselves got arrested.
[00:14:45] Sir, if my brother is talking about political considerations,
[00:14:48] saying that there are no political considerations, then until today,
[00:14:52] all these nocturnal attacks on democracy
[00:14:55] and these impositions of Governor's rule, if there are any
[00:14:59] political considerations, then these are the most. Okay, if I had said it
[00:15:03] or they had said it, they wouldn't have believed it. This is Maulana Fazlur Rehman Sahib who came in, may Allah
[00:15:07] bring him, and we as a party were to be vindicated
[00:15:10] and they were to be blamed that you imposed
[00:15:14] this emergency and Governor's rule without any reason.
[00:15:17] He explained in great detail that I had also talked
[00:15:20] to the Prime Minister Sahib and I had also talked to Suhail Afridi
[00:15:26] and I had told both parties that now give me this authority. How
[00:15:30] long will the government continue? How long will the opposition continue? Where
[00:15:34] should we be on board on the terrorism issue? What things
[00:15:37] need to be settled? I will do this now and both parties gave me authority and
[00:15:41] told me to go ahead. But then
[00:15:45] what happened? Then he gets a call at 10:30 in the morning that, "Sorry,
[00:15:48] we are imposing Governor's rule." Well, the talk is that the
[00:15:52] real issue is terrorism. So in this Governor's rule
[00:15:56] that has been imposed, an area
[00:16:00] development council has also been formed, which includes FATA and
[00:16:03] the affected areas where emergency has been imposed
[00:16:07] in 12 of them. It includes Dera Ismail Khan, Bannu,
[00:16:10] Lakki Marwat, Tank, Bajaur, Mohmand,
[00:16:14] Khyber, Kurram Agency, Orakzai, North Waziristan, South
[00:16:17] Waziristan Upper and South Waziristan Lower. All these
[00:16:21] areas are included in it. So
[00:16:24] for the area representative
[00:16:26] of this development
[00:16:28] council , Mr. Mehmood Jan Babar Sahib
[00:16:32] has been made the advisor for information of this ARDC. Let's talk to him for
[00:16:49] of the Development Council, as its
[00:16:52] spokesperson, will tell us about this system of 12
[00:16:56] tribal elders, will it be run by them
[00:16:59] ? And if it is run by tribal elders, how will they be elected
[00:17:05] that
[00:17:07] this council is an empowered council
[00:17:11] and in it there are
[00:17:14] quite sensible technocrats,
[00:17:17] a number of them have been brought here
[00:17:20] and senior Additional Chief Secretary Yahya Akhunzada Sahib
[00:17:24] will head this council. An Additional IG of Police will also
[00:17:28] be in it, and the other
[00:17:32] people are experts from various fields
[00:17:35] and they are also bureaucrats and legal experts.
[00:17:39] And all of them have to do one thing: to select
[00:17:43] tribal elders and the elders of the other four
[00:17:47] districts from there.
[00:17:50] Is this council temporary or permanent? What
[00:17:54] will be its tenure?
[00:17:57] Yes, look, today clarity has been given to it. Mohsin Naqvi
[00:18:01] Sahib also came to Peshawar and he met with
[00:18:05] all the experts of this council and its
[00:18:10] that some people are trying to spread rumors
[00:18:14] that this council will be for a short time
[00:18:17] and then it will be abolished. So he has given a clear-cut
[00:18:21] message and he has given this clarity
[00:18:24] that no, this council will remain until it achieves
[00:18:28] its objectives, and for this,
[00:18:32] all legal requirements will be fulfilled by legal experts
[00:18:35] and the federal experts
[00:18:39] will fulfill their legislative requirements in this regard.
[00:18:43] So there are no signs or possibilities
[00:18:47] of this council ending soon. Its objectives
[00:18:51] are to solve all the problems of the people and to eradicate terrorism from its
[00:18:54] roots and to eliminate the ecosystem of terrorism.
[00:18:58] So until
[00:19:07] from this conversation, I don't think this Governor's rule is for six months. This is
[00:19:11] long-term. I would like to clarify this to you
[00:19:14] and your viewers a little bit,
[00:19:18] within the constitution. I want to clearly explain
[00:19:21] this. In this,
[00:19:24] Article 234 refers to Governor's rule,
[00:19:28] which can be applied for a maximum of six months. Where
[00:19:31] Article 232 is concerned, there is no time limit
[00:19:35] set. Okay, and
[00:19:38] 232 talks about emergency. That
[00:19:41] is a proclamation of emergency. Internal disturbance, external
[00:19:44] aggression, war, etcetera, and so
[00:19:48] on. Both of these have been applied together. Now, here you see,
[00:19:51] okay, and I completely agree with the ARDC council
[00:19:55] that the local elders there should be taken on board
[00:19:59] and they should be members of it. The
[00:20:02] concerned local stakeholders should look after all the matters
[00:20:06] in it. Their
[00:21:35] Muslim League N was also included in it, Peoples Party was also included in it,
[00:21:39] ANP was also included in it, Jamiat was also included in it, Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf was also
[00:21:43] included in it, and all the elders there were also included.
[00:21:46] Some things were decided there based on consensus. And those
[00:21:50] things were sent to the Prime Minister Sahib with a declaration that the
[00:21:54] entire province, all the politicians, are talking about peace jirga,
[00:21:58] and all the elders are agreed on this. Consider it. Today you
[00:22:01] see the elders. Today you realized that local people are needed
[00:22:05] to solve these issues. So what were we saying? We were also saying
[00:22:09] that until you take the assembly there, the politicians
[00:22:13] there, the elders there into confidence,
[00:22:16] this cannot be ended. You didn't listen to us at all.
[00:22:20] Today you have also formed a council. Today you are endorsing them. Is
[00:22:23] this a correct action then? No, this is not a correct action. When the political government was saying
[00:22:27] to do this, why didn't you do it
[00:22:35] province was standing on one thing? Muslim League N was also
[00:22:39] included in it. Their Mr. Muqam
[00:22:42] was not their Mr. Muqam, brother, because I was present
[00:22:46] there. His brother, so tell me his brother's name.
[00:23:03] You threw those talks into the dustbin. Today, when negotiations were happening, we said that the peace jirga
[00:23:07] that happened, its consideration, its consideration
[00:23:10] should be included in it. Because I was present in the Khyber Pakhtunkhwa Assembly,
[00:23:14] the resolution that was passed said that this operation
[00:23:18] against terrorism
[00:23:20] would be led by KP Police and SIS,
[00:23:23] and if needed, assistance would be sought from federal
[00:23:27] agencies. The federal government was saying
[00:23:31] the federation, so if you had talked to them on this matter,
[00:23:35] it would have been no, there was talk,
[00:23:38] this
[00:23:40] is the difference and this is the point that we kept telling them, I think
[00:23:44] two or three times more than that, there was not much
[00:23:48] cooperation from their side, tell
[00:23:50] me, since PCM Suhail Afridi Sahib came, you
[00:23:53] have seen a 195% increase from 24 to 26.
[00:23:57] And when SEM Afridi Sahib comes,
[00:24:01] 376
[00:24:03] terrorism incidents happen.
[00:24:06] 1150 martyrdoms happen,
[00:24:09] in which there are civilians and other people as well. Their
[00:24:13] only mode of operation has been, "We have to do a long march, we have to do political agitation."
[00:24:17] We are tired of saying that on counter- terrorism,
[00:24:50] in 1975, the government of Inayatullah Gandapur was overthrown
[00:24:53] and Governor's rule was imposed here. At
[00:24:57] that time too, the charge sheet was that there was terrorism in the province.
[00:25:01] Hayat Muhammad Khan Sherpao was killed in Peshawar University through terrorism.
[00:25:04] The situation is not good and Governor's rule was imposed.
[00:25:08] So it means this is a 50-year-old problem. No, the problem
[00:25:12] that has arisen with this in this era, from 2024 to 25,
[00:25:16] since Suhail Afridi Sahib came, we are tired of telling him, Mr.
[00:30:32] about it, he said that I had settled all
[00:30:36] that, Governor's rule has been imposed. I want
[00:30:40] to play a short clip of him for you, then I will ask a question. I contacted
[00:30:43] the Prime Minister Sahib and I told him that if he
[00:30:47] is now principledly ready to end the long march,
[00:30:51] then you should also settle with me that they
[00:30:55] will also meet and Imran Khan will also be brought
[00:30:58] for treatment. On this, he said that