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[00:00:10] and negotiations.
[00:00:14] Now, obviously,
[00:00:19] The Senate and National Assembly sessions will be held tonight at 6:15 PM.
[00:00:23] The meeting of the N-League's parliamentary committee will also be held
[00:00:27] tonight. The meeting of the PPP members of parliament will also be held.
[00:00:34] Will be done under constitutional procedure. PPP leader Nayyar Bukhari's
[00:00:38] statement.
[00:00:48] The joint parliamentary party meeting of the opposition will be held today. Maulana Fazlur Rehman will
[00:00:52] also be invited to attend the meeting. Spokesperson of the opposition alliance
[00:00:55] Akhunzada Hussain said that the Leader of the Opposition in the National Assembly, Mehmood
[00:00:59] Khan, has instructed to approach the court against governor rule and
[00:01:03] emergency. PTI parliamentary party meeting will be held
[00:01:06] today.
[00:01:10] Intelligence-based operations against terrorism will continue in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa.
[00:01:14] Police and CTD will be provided with modern equipment, weapons and necessary resources.
[00:01:18] Important decisions announced in the provincial apex committee meeting. Governor Khyber Pakhtunkhwa Faisal
[00:01:21] Karim Kundi said that
[00:01:25] the 13-year mess has to be cleaned up. In three months, the public will see a difference. Interior
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[00:01:44] then obviously
[00:02:07] Nor does my analysis mean
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[00:03:00] NAB has started investigation into alleged corruption and irregularities
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[00:03:07] a complaint regarding the Sindh Public Service Commission examination 2023.
[00:03:11] NAB Karachi's letter to the Secretary, Sindh Public Service Commission,
[00:03:14] requested separate details of candidates who passed the screening test and written examination.
[00:03:18] Instructions to provide details and results of all candidates.
[00:03:22] Also requested details of examination advertisement and joining.
[00:03:26] Also requested details of interview panel members.
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[00:10:36] And the government says that in any way,
[00:10:38] there were various negotiations and discussions.
[00:10:42] The Khyber Pakhtunkhwa government of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf
[00:10:45] was not cooperating on the issue of terrorism and was creating obstacles,
[00:10:49] which led to a significant increase in terrorism. That's why this extreme
[00:10:52] step had to be taken.
[00:11:55] We would like to know your opinion first because the entire matter
[00:11:59] is being viewed as a constitutional and legal
[00:12:02] matter by the government, using terrorism as a justification.
[00:12:05] Please explain to us first
[00:12:09] regarding this. 232, 234, meaning
[00:12:11] both Governor Rule and Emergency have been invoked.
[00:12:15] Then yesterday, Tariq sahib and Azam
[00:12:19] Nazeer Tariq sahib said that now this matter will go
[00:12:22] to the assemblies where this approval will also
[00:12:26] be sought. There are still many ambiguities regarding the timeline.
[00:12:29] You will talk about all other matters,
[00:12:32] but do you think that this justification being presented
[00:12:36] and repeatedly stated that there was scope for it in the constitution,
[00:12:39] and the government has fulfilled the prerequisites to invoke
[00:12:43] these constitutional provisions? In your opinion?
[00:12:45] Thank you Reena, first of all, I would like to say
[00:12:49] that no matter which party you belong
[00:12:52] to, no matter which province
[00:13:55] still largely follows
[00:13:57] the same direction as was given in the Government of India Act
[00:14:01] of 1935 during the colonial
[00:14:05] era, and especially when you look at emergency provisions and
[00:14:08] governor rule, 232 and
[00:14:11] 234, they create their place in a federation
[00:14:14] within that framework. And if you look at the original
[00:14:18] constitution of 1973, it also contained
[00:14:21] these provisions, and in fact, even more terrifying ones.
[00:16:07] Won't it be? Will emergency always be unconstitutional?
[00:16:11] No, it won't. Even though in every situation
[00:16:14] you can't dissolve provincial assemblies but the government's
[00:16:17] powers are taken over by the federal
[00:16:20] government. So is this not democratic?
[00:16:24] Is it undemocratic?
[00:16:27] There are questions about this. What should be a better system?
[00:16:30] We also need to talk about this, I think,
[00:16:34] because for how long will what
[00:18:37] is made, they will impose emergency against it because
[00:18:40] ideally, within six months, the problems of the provincial
[00:18:43] government should have been resolved, they should have been settled. Now you have also
[00:18:47] imposed emergency and created this confusion that
[00:18:51] the government you have made a technocratic setup,
[00:18:55] the more you extend the emergency, you are building a case against it
[00:18:59] that they are not in control of whatever is happening
[00:19:03] in the province. The second thing in this, Lena, you see,
[00:19:06] it says Yes, sorry, but I won't talk about it after this,
[00:19:10] because it's very important to read it. It was said
[00:19:13] that there is terrorism, it was said that there is a
[00:19:16] grave security situation. It was not said
[00:19:19] whether you imposed 232 for internal disturbance,
[00:19:23] for war, or for external aggression.
[00:19:26] Because if there is internal disturbance, then the resolution of the provincial assembly
[00:19:30] is necessary. If there is war or external aggression, then
[00:19:34] tell us something, from whom do you have external threat? What?
[00:20:07] There is a judgment of the Supreme Court which says that
[00:20:11] further if you have a difference of opinion, that is not enough.
[00:20:14] There should be a deadlock, an impasse. There should be a breakdown
[00:20:18] of the constitutional machinery.
[00:20:21] In one line, it has been said that the government
[00:20:25] is not being run according to the constitution. Its details
[00:20:28] are very important. The third thing, Alina, malafide.
[00:20:32] Now this is a very big thing. It can be constitutionally
[00:20:36] challenged.
[00:23:50] The government made a U-turn at the last
[00:23:52] moment. What actually happened inside? What
[00:23:56] is this matter? And was this justification of terrorism
[00:24:00] really a valid
[00:24:01] justification,
[00:24:05] or was the government completely helpless in your opinion, that it had to take
[00:24:09] this step, that it became
[00:24:10] inevitable?
[00:24:13] The federal government and
[00:24:17] PTI or PTI's provincial government had fundamental
[00:24:20] differences. So it didn't just include
[00:24:24] the long march. But perhaps for the political
[00:24:27] leadership, the issue of the long march was more important.
[00:24:31] But for the establishment, the issue
[00:24:35] of terrorism was more important.
[00:24:38] And regarding terrorism, we also
[00:24:42] kept saying repeatedly that it
[00:24:45] has engulfed a large part of the province.
[00:24:48] Now they have appointed
[00:24:52] a separate Additional Chief Secretary for 12 districts.
[00:24:56] But in those
[00:24:58] 11 or 12 districts,
[00:25:02] the government's writ had practically ended, and these were not just
[00:25:05] tribal districts, but also settled
[00:25:09] districts like D.I. Khan and Karak, Lucky
[00:25:12] Marwat, and these were also included. So the biggest
[00:25:16] problem in this regard was the establishment's
[00:25:20] narrative and PTI's narrative.
[00:25:24] The establishment's narrative was
[00:25:28] we have had negotiations with TTP in the past
[00:25:32] and done everything else.
[00:25:35] So now there is no option
[00:25:38] but to launch an operation, especially an intelligence-based operation,
[00:25:42] or to use force.
[00:25:46] And other political leadership should
[00:25:50] be in agreement with them in this regard. But on the other hand,
[00:25:53] PTI's decision as a party
[00:25:56] since 2014 is, this is a well-thought-out
[00:26:00] course of action.
[00:26:02] That we do not want to directly challenge
[00:26:06] the TTP, and they talk about reconciliation,
[00:26:09] compromise, Jirga
[00:26:12] But how will that happen?
[00:26:17] even when PTI was in government,
[00:26:21] when Mahmood Khan sahib was the Chief Minister in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa
[00:26:24] and PTM was in power at the center, at that time, Barrister Mohammad Ali Saif,
[00:26:28] who was the Information Minister of the Khyber Pakhtunkhwa PTI government,
[00:26:32] a delegation led by him had gone
[00:26:35] and they had negotiated with TTP there,
[00:26:38] but it did not yield any results.
[00:26:42] Similarly,
[00:26:45] before that, at the
[00:26:49] behest of General Faiz sahib, when in Swat
[00:26:52] and Imran Khan sahib was also
[00:26:55] in agreement with him.
[00:26:59] When Imran Khan sahib called a meeting in this regard,
[00:27:03] some people opposed bringing them back and settling
[00:27:05] them. But when some 400
[00:27:09] something people and their family
[00:27:13] members returned to Swat at that
[00:27:17] time, and some came to North
[00:27:20] and South Waziristan, there was a public uprising
[00:27:23] against it, meaning people did not accept
[00:27:27] that decision. So now
[00:27:30] the establishment says that there is no other option,
[00:27:33] but if the PTI government had adopted
[00:27:37] the narrative regarding TTP that the
[00:27:40] establishment
[00:27:43] demands, they would have
[00:27:47] had to pay the price just like the Awami
[00:27:51] National Party had to pay, and they were not
[00:27:54] ready for that. So this was the fundamental
[00:27:57] difference. But the thing is that
[00:28:01] we all know that the issue of terrorism was not
[00:28:04] from two days ago.
[00:28:10] that if there is terrorism,
[00:28:13] it is because of PTI.
[00:28:16] Due to the attitude of TTP,
[00:28:20] perhaps there was some difficulty
[00:28:23] in taking action against them.
[00:28:28] that the Talibanization here
[00:28:31] is a result of the Pakistani state's wrong policy
[00:28:35] regarding Afghanistan, that our state
[00:28:39] supported the Afghan Taliban, and as a result,
[00:28:43] TTP also got an opportunity to flourish
[00:28:46] inside Pakistan. And even now,
[00:28:50] whatever is happening, its reason was not
[00:28:53] solely the PTI government. I think by taking
[00:28:57] this step, by imposing emergency and governor rule,
[00:29:00] the federal government and the parties involved
[00:29:04] have shifted the burden of responsibility
[00:29:07] from PTI's shoulders to their own shoulders.
[00:29:11] And if now
[00:29:14] the government that has been established there
[00:29:18] under the leadership of the governor, then it is also their
[00:29:22] test and also the test of the federal security forces.
[00:29:25] If they reduce terrorism
[00:29:29] during this period and
[00:29:34] if they eliminate their control, then
[00:29:36] their action will be accepted by the public in some form or another.
[00:29:40] But if they fail
[00:29:44] in the same way or if the situation worsens,
[00:29:48] then obviously people cannot easily
[00:29:52] digest the departure of a government with a two-thirds mandate.
[00:29:55] And politically, even now,
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