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[00:00:02] dico, don't say that, you are not the boss, you
[00:01:32] listening to you, I like what you say, in
[00:01:35] particular, I've been telling you and I've said it, the, the, the
[00:01:39] figures that make up Fedecámaras, the
[00:01:43] leadership seems to me perhaps
[00:01:46] the spearhead of the country's leadership, in
[00:01:49] terms of sanity, they are not politicians,
[00:01:53] but since they stayed and have faced hardships,
[00:01:57] simplification of headlines, I look for what tell me, the real estate chamber.
[00:02:00] We had periods of glory and then
[00:02:04] horrible droughts and also when
[00:02:08] when this revolution of expropriations
[00:02:12] became fashionable, the laws
[00:02:14] destroyed the rental market because renting
[00:02:19] people talking about another condition of meant
[00:02:22] that the tenant who rented to you expropriated you, because
[00:02:26] they declared themselves in rebellion because Chávez
[00:02:29] didn't have a clear concept of private
[00:02:32] property, he didn't have it, Mauro, I think he had it
[00:02:35] clearer and in the case
[00:02:37] mayor's office, let the company that is going to of he understands that it cannot be solved, that the
[00:02:41] basis of the modern state
[00:02:45] is not, as Marx said, that private property did
[00:02:49] not exist and the family was communal, no, no, no, that's
[00:02:52] not how it is, understanding that, in the last reform of
[00:02:56] the law, astonishingly.
[00:03:00] Instead of defending tenants,
[00:03:03] that there is, eh, what I believe, makes the cash flows of they defend
[00:03:04] the people who come owners, that seemed stupid, but it's
[00:03:07] not, it's not, because to
[00:03:10] establish legal stability, that
[00:03:13] which is always good, that we need laws, that the institution, the first
[00:03:17] thing to respect is that people
[00:03:22] and in important, but what have the right to have their things and that is not bad, that is good and that the state
[00:03:26] that has to do with must respect
[00:03:28] legitimization with property, but as we... we were all in the middle of
[00:03:31] the revolution, private property was bad, being
[00:03:34] rich was
[00:03:37] well-being can be generated in bad, but all that has been changing, look, and now with the
[00:03:40] earthquake,
[00:03:43] the need
[00:03:45] approval of this legislative framework of opens an opportunity
[00:03:48] to rebuild, because if
[00:03:51] we boost construction again,
[00:03:54] look, one of the possibilities for the economy to
[00:03:59] to be able to accompany you in recover, because a lot of money, jobs, etc., construction,
[00:04:02] well, having said this, yesterday you had a meeting in Fedecámaras,
[00:04:06] well, first of all,
[00:04:08] body is published in the thank you very much for the invitation and let's start with the fundamental
[00:04:11] concept that from the Venezuelan Real Estate Chamber
[00:04:14] we tried to highlight
[00:04:17] Luis Arráez, who is from Cocorote, when we were promoting the review of the real estate
[00:04:20] legal framework is definitively the rescue of
[00:04:24] private property. Property owners with
[00:04:27] legislation that was in
[00:04:32] capacity of From force, understood that putting the property on the
[00:04:35] rental market for a person to occupy
[00:04:38] it was practically giving up their right to private property due to the
[00:04:42] number of difficult processes that the same law
[00:04:46] 80%, depending on what contemplated for recovering that property.
[00:04:49] Fundamentally, even though it
[00:04:53] was a very unbalanced law, it had
[00:04:56] all the, let's say, principles and protections for the tenant.
[00:05:00] Yes, there were three processes that
[00:05:04] were absolutely
[00:05:05] right next to pernicious and opaque and that complicated the
[00:05:09] exercise of that, of, of, of that, of that economic
[00:05:12] exercise, such as renting, look, first there were
[00:05:16] two parties in the contract to make law, there were three parties,
[00:05:20] there was a regulatory body, to that regulatory body
[00:05:24] you had to go when there was a difference and the
[00:05:27] regulatory body which was an administrative
[00:05:30] phase, well,
[00:05:33] analyzing the case, it could practically take
[00:05:37] three, four, even five years, but it
[00:05:40] could not make a decision to say, well, you recover your
[00:05:43] property, we are going to evict the defaulting tenant,
[00:05:47] no, but after that, you had to go to the courts to
[00:05:50] start a new process and
[00:05:53] it practically took the same amount of time, so between highs
[00:05:57] and lows, between zero and 10 years, the court would say,
[00:06:00] well, yes, the gentleman has to leave,
[00:06:04] but it's because there was a writ of amparo resulting from a
[00:06:07] decree that did not allow the
[00:06:10] resolutions of the flicks through the recovery, the
[00:06:14] execution of the, of the sentence to happen,
[00:06:17] so the whole game was blocked, effectively
[00:06:21] since 2022 we have been working very regularly in
[00:06:24] the executive and in the legislative, making the contribution that the
[00:06:28] chamber indicated that this
[00:06:31] condition made apartments, owners
[00:06:35] decide to prefer to keep them
[00:06:37] closed, and it is there where
[00:06:40] the work, let's say, of training and education begins, but
[00:06:44] fundamentally, I repeat, it is the rescue of private property,
[00:06:48] it is the rescue of the right to private property, because when you have a
[00:06:52] the right, you exercise the right to private property, you can have a guarantee of
[00:06:55] rent, and if you have a guarantee of rent, then you have an
[00:06:59] incentive to be able to enter into the, in the, in the issue, and as you
[00:07:02] just indicated, the, the exercise and
[00:07:06] the aspiration to generate wealth through one's
[00:07:10] own investment is absolutely nothing to
[00:07:14] criticize. Indeed, we
[00:07:17] were able to position principles and
[00:07:20] ideas from the real estate chamber that
[00:07:23] are reflected in this legislative
[00:07:25] body. I am going to highlight what we believe are the most
[00:07:29] important ones to continue supporting your idea of
[00:07:33] private property, the principle, the, the fundamental
[00:07:35] principle is that there is an agreement between the parties and these parties through
[00:07:39] a contract make law. We are
[00:07:43] absolutely convinced that this
[00:07:45] freedom that can be exercised today through
[00:07:49] this new legislative body makes
[00:07:51] negotiation, which is manifested through a
[00:07:55] contract, have a lot of meaning and value, I think that is
[00:07:58] important to recover. Then the specific
[00:08:02] time is defined for the security deposits when
[00:08:05] handing over the apartment and that is defined and can
[00:08:09] be paid through an insurance policy or a guarantee and that,
[00:08:16] with the rental issue manageable, indexed
[00:08:20] contracts are made in foreign currency, the
[00:08:24] indexed contract is allowed to be made in foreign currency, so it is paid in bolivars at the
[00:08:27] exchange rate of the day the payment takes place, this is
[00:08:31] we rescue from the chamber as the, the, the
[00:08:35] most important contribution that this
[00:08:38] law contemplated is the possibility of
[00:08:42] resolving differences through arbitration and that
[00:08:46] makes everything I introduced regarding the
[00:08:49] time it took to recover your private property, at this
[00:08:52] moment if there is a disagreement, if you don't pay
[00:08:56] the, well, there is a much faster period that through
[00:08:59] arbitration, guarantees the execution of a sentence, of a
[00:09:03] decision and that exercise of
[00:09:06] freedom, those are exercises of citizen rights and that is enshrined in the
[00:09:10] new law, we have the issue that there
[00:09:13] will be two rental regimes in force from the moment this
[00:09:17] new legislative
[00:09:20] gazette and everything that is, let's say, from the day it appears in the gazette backwards
[00:09:24] will continue to be regulated under this 2011
[00:09:27] norm, without a doubt, the real estate chamber
[00:09:30] highlighted this condition and will continue
[00:09:33] to influence the discussions that we will
[00:09:37] continue to have because that is the, the, the arrangement of the
[00:09:40] agreement or what remained.
[00:09:44] the review made by the specific commission that dedicated itself to the rental
[00:09:47] law to continue making contributions and continue understanding this,
[00:09:51] this tells the
[00:09:55] owner, well, we have conditions that are
[00:09:58] perfectible, we have conditions that need
[00:10:01] to improve, but without a doubt, we already have an important
[00:10:05] step forward that allows us to say, well, let's
[00:10:08] try, let's start generating trust and then
[00:10:12] comes another reflection you made about our umbrella organization,
[00:15:49] leadership of the chamber, because Fedecámaras was marked by
[00:15:53] Carmona,
[00:15:56] who, by the way, in the meeting with the prosecutor,
[00:15:59] the pardon for Carmona was being processed so that he could return to
[00:16:03] the country, the prosecutor told us about
[00:16:06] 7000 and... it was almost 8000 cases of
[00:16:09] real estate conflicts
[00:16:13] that due to a very strange
[00:16:15] culture in the country, people feel that there is justice
[00:16:19] when someone is put in prison, put him in prison, if he is not
[00:16:23] put in prison there is no justice, so real estate
[00:16:26] issues that are not for the courts went
[00:16:30] to the courts and congested
[00:16:34] judges with 2000 cases, 3000 cases, what can a judge do
[00:16:38] with 2, cases, nothing, magistrates with a number of
[00:16:41] cases, because that concept that you can't
[00:16:44] fix anything, which is a concept by its nature of
[00:16:48] politics, of force, well,
[00:16:51] it prevails in all associations, you are in a building and you play music at
[00:16:54] full volume and the neighbor calls the police,
[00:16:58] because, uh, okay, the neighbor is old, he doesn't
[00:17:01] like the music, but, but young people
[00:17:05] have the right to music, the noise. that has to
[00:17:08] be compensated, that is, no, but no, you can't call the
[00:17:11] police, for God's sake, that's not how it is,
[00:17:14] so to return that, the law makes
[00:17:18] it common sense,
[00:17:20] wow, now why does such an obvious thing
[00:17:24] take so long, it's so difficult to
[00:17:27] understand, because here everything,
[00:17:30] everything, instead of seeking the
[00:17:34] the law, of its execution.
[00:17:37] The state's effectiveness, we complicate everything, I give the
[00:17:41] example of the elevators, the
[00:17:43] elevators, during the earthquake, yes, they became misaligned because it was a very
[00:17:47] strong earthquake, well,
[00:17:50] since there were so many deteriorated buildings, what
[00:17:53] had to be done was, well, find authorized
[00:17:56] people and let them take care of that, no, they
[00:17:59] put it in something that exists there that has
[00:18:02] never worked, a chamber, a, I don't know, permit and
[00:18:06] and and what they did was delay that, until
[00:18:10] Garcés appeared these days and said: no, look, go to the
[00:18:15] donate the elevator be responsible and that's it, but, but a
[00:18:18] month passed, so, the topic,
[00:18:21] we return, let's get into Fedecámaras, when Fedecámaras
[00:18:25] understands
[00:18:27] that it has to do economics in a country where the fashion is
[00:18:30] expropriation and and and and there is no respect for
[00:18:34] private property, there is no legal stability, all those lawsuits that...
[00:18:37] we have the debt that Venezuela has in courts abroad is due to
[00:18:41] expropriations, due to the ignorance of the law, but
[00:18:44] Fedecámaras first began to change the
[00:18:47] discourse, to understand that its role was as an entrepreneur
[00:18:51] and instead of becoming the enemy, rich and
[00:18:55] poor, no, people, leadership that thinks about
[00:18:59] the country and that deserves all the praise in the
[00:19:02] world, I am a Fedecámaras supporter, even though I am
[00:19:05] poor.
[00:19:08] Excuse the long introduction but I do it like this, Fedecámaras
[00:19:11] is today one of the most recognized
[00:19:14] institutions in the people, in the
[00:19:17] surveys in Venezuela,
[00:19:20] for not saying one or two in any order,
[00:19:24] church and Fedecámaras and that fundamentally,
[00:19:27] why? The first thing is that it is an institution
[00:19:30] that defends its principles and
[00:19:34] values represented in its statutes.
[00:19:37] The statutes of Fedecámaras are, let's say, the most
[00:19:41] important constitution that the organization has,
[00:19:45] where there are the possibilities of resolving
[00:19:48] even differences through the application of its own
[00:19:51] statutes, but where fundamentally the
[00:19:54] exercise of freedom and democracy makes
[00:19:58] it give the institution
[00:20:01] a solid foundation. It is an institution that has been
[00:20:04] professionalizing its guild every day.
[00:20:08] In Venezuela, it is a very high-level
[00:20:11] guild, when you go on tours of the regional
[00:20:15] chambers, you can observe that those
[00:20:18] state presidents, those regional chamber
[00:20:21] presidents, do it better every day, I am on the chamber's board because I
[00:20:24] represent a sector, I represent the real estate sector,
[00:20:28] we have 20 chambers, the majority are affiliated
[00:20:32] with Fedecámaras and that is why we have a very, very
[00:20:35] close interaction. But the most important thing is that they have known
[00:20:39] how to read the country and despite the fact that some
[00:20:43] decisions have brought a certain level of controversy, there are
[00:20:46] other decisions, the majority have
[00:20:50] coincided with reality and have been able, let's say,
[00:20:53] to contribute in a decisive
[00:20:57] way to what can be, what is, the
[00:21:00] construction of a new country, of a new society, today I can
[00:21:04] guarantee that the organized private sector through our
[00:21:07] umbrella organization has been called, has been
[00:21:11] consulted and above all as a result of this, of, of this
[00:21:15] natural event, we have a
[00:21:18] living action, an action that is representative,
[00:21:22] look at what the construction chamber has done, for example, which together with the
[00:21:25] oil chamber carried out a census of what
[00:21:29] yellow machinery is, which is heavy machinery and
[00:21:32] they were able to open a trust fund where
[00:21:35] the, the, the initial contributions were made by the Andean
[00:21:39] Development Corporation, we are seeing and that was
[00:21:42] hours after the seismic event occurred,
[00:21:46] these responses were created very quickly, what I want to say is that the
[00:21:49] sector. is working very actively to
[00:21:53] generate conditions and it is the leadership of Fedecámaras, very
[00:21:56] well represented, you speak of a great, a great
[00:22:00] president that the organization had, Jorge Bottino, but you also
[00:22:03] mentioned Ricardo Guzano, we mention Carlos
[00:22:06] Fernández, Carlos Fernández who in my opinion is brilliant, Carlos, Adán
[00:22:10] Celis and today, today we have the leadership of, of
[00:22:13] Felipe Capozzolo who without a
[00:22:16] doubt, we have the clarity,
[00:22:20] the constancy that he works 24 hours together
[00:22:23] with his current board of directors, in a united
[00:22:26] way, in a coordinated way and
[00:22:30] in a joint way, to generate conditions, to
[00:22:34] generate situations that the
[00:22:37] private sector in the country is demanding today, the first thing that is demanded in the country is a
[00:22:40] vision and to have vision we need to have a concept of
[00:22:44] unity and that vision of that
[00:22:47] concept of vision, that concept of unity today in Fedecámaras is
[00:22:50] represented through its board of directors and we are
[00:22:53] diligently working and
[00:22:55] committed to the generation of a new society, of a new
[00:22:59] Venezuela, you told me why changes are
[00:23:03] slow, well sometimes changes are slow because we have
[00:23:06] to grow, we have to evolve, we have to
[00:23:10] change, today I am here sitting talking about a new
[00:23:13] law and you talk about some lawsuits that are alive and that are
[00:23:17] protected by another, by the previous law. Eh, those
[00:23:20] lawsuits, we have a number above
[00:23:24] 20,000 for you to have an idea, and
[00:23:28] that represents a strategic challenge, the real estate
[00:23:30] chamber raised its voice saying that this
[00:23:34] condition, this situation does
[00:23:36] not, let's say, give us a concept of justice that
[00:23:40] can clearly generate trust to act, but
[00:23:44] I also have to say that it would be very
[00:23:48] little strategic not to recognize that
[00:23:52] we took an important step with the recognition of this body and this
[00:23:55] new law, it would be very little strategic not to
[00:23:59] say, ladies and gentlemen, the work is being
[00:24:02] done here, we will never say rent or not rent, that
[00:24:06] will be a decision that you in the exercise of your citizenship through
[00:24:10] private property
[00:24:12] the as a landlord you will make when you
[00:24:15] consult with your specialist in tenancy law,
[00:24:19] some guidelines will be given there, but we definitely have a
[00:24:22] very interesting moment to start
[00:24:25] building a foundation, notice what we observe from the Venezuelan
[00:24:29] Real Estate Chamber and what can be a great contribution to the
[00:24:33] private sector, including
[00:24:35] the recognition of private property that is made through this legislative body, I
[00:24:39] told you to generate income and if it generates income there is a
[00:24:43] possibility then to be able to call investors
[00:24:46] so that through non-conventional,
[00:24:49] non-traditional mechanisms, such as capital
[00:24:53] market mechanisms, we can unite this capital with
[00:24:57] developers and we can act for the generation of new housing
[00:25:01] units that, let me rescue, as a result of the previous
[00:25:03] real estate framework or the one we are currently
[00:25:07] reviewing, there is a specific law which is the real estate
[00:25:10] fraud law that has made developers leave the
[00:25:14] market and in Venezuela you haven't seen a crane in more than 15 years
[00:25:17] in any of the main cities of the country, this
[00:25:21] real estate fraud law is also being reviewed, we have
[00:25:25] also made contributions, the real estate chamber and the Venezuelan construction
[00:25:28] chamber, we are waiting for a
[00:25:31] result because all the developers in Venezuela also
[00:25:35] made analyses of many developers, today your
[00:25:38] producer was with us at the Venezuelan Real Estate Chamber a long
[00:29:42] Pablo González with us, president of the Real Estate Chamber,
[00:29:46] we are talking about the new law and the
[00:29:50] situation that we have today,
[00:29:54] 30,000 homes more or less I have heard are needed, maybe
[00:29:56] more, maybe less, but the
[00:30:00] truth is that people. who suffered the
[00:30:03] earthquake especially in La Guaira, although in the rest of the country there are also
[00:30:07] many affected and
[00:30:11] complex situations, but
[00:30:14] La Guaira is, let's say, it's
[00:30:17] the movie because people lost everything there,
[00:30:20] home, family, those who survived and everything that
[00:30:24] happened there eh, perhaps within
[00:30:26] the bad and the tragedy and
[00:30:30] everything, eh, but all that
[00:30:33] emotional, beautiful that happened there, the sacrifice that
[00:30:37] happened there should serve us so that, eh, the
[00:30:40] government announces some mortgage
[00:30:44] loans of
[00:30:48] you ask for, not for construction, which seems
[00:30:51] to me singular,
[00:30:55] but in La Guaira, look, the million homes
[00:30:57] fell, wow, so
[00:31:01] politics takes over and... looks for culprits, but many
[00:31:04] luxury buildings fell
[00:31:08] each other, so everything fell because the dimension of the earthquake was very
[00:31:11] strong and then yes there were many flexible
[00:31:15] constructions in La Guaira that led to corruption even, according to what has been reported now,
[00:31:18] no, a horrific
[00:31:22] corruption case there they built where they shouldn't have,
[00:31:26] but how does a person
[00:31:30] even get an 80,000 dollar loan
[00:31:34] of 80% on a 70,000 dollar home, if they
[00:31:37] don't even have a job, if they lost everything,
[00:31:40] then the entrepreneur cannot subsidize that
[00:31:43] because the entrepreneur depends on profit, if he does not
[00:31:47] have, he cannot produce loss, that makes no
[00:31:50] sense, but the state does have that function, it can
[00:31:53] do it, now there has to be
[00:31:56] credit, credit has been paralyzed for years
[00:31:59] because some economic geniuses
[00:32:02] implemented some shock measures to remove
[00:32:06] money from the market to avoid inflation, that works
[00:32:09] quickly, you boom boom and you throw other measures and
[00:32:13] balance, but we got stuck.
[00:32:15] There, so there is no credit anywhere, while
[00:32:18] all companies have credit,
[00:32:22] the state does not have credit,
[00:32:25] even though everyone says it, everyone talks,
[00:32:29] the state is slow, when I refer to acting with
[00:32:33] a certain, eh, it is not speed but effectiveness, which
[00:32:37] is different, the state has to be effective, the
[00:32:40] state cannot be a limbo, it's not that you are going to
[00:32:43] appoint the magistrates. You said appointed how long ago, about
[00:32:47] two months ago and now that fell, that's like a
[00:32:51] bridge of that, meanwhile that they were built and they stay
[00:32:54] like this, well, then no, the state cannot
[00:32:57] be something that you go to
[00:33:01] do a procedure and it is a cumbersome thing and they
[00:33:04] charge you and if not everything is late there is no
[00:33:08] paper or the printer doesn't work
[00:33:12] the state cannot be this atrophied thing.
[00:33:15] that manages public function in a way that
[00:33:18] you say, hey, but this is against, against, against, against the state
[00:33:22] itself, that is, the discredit, that is, in the
[00:33:36] okay, Siemens and General Electric, we are going to fix the
[00:33:40] electrical system, so the law comes out, wow,
[00:33:43] what a marvel, Siemens is no longer a single
[00:33:47] regulatory body for the electrical issue, all states
[00:33:50] can have solutions, we remember electricity, Caracas,
[00:33:53] etcetera, but the
[00:33:56] ownership of those companies, mostly the state must have it and why,
[00:33:59] that's an obstacle, why
[00:34:03] do you always have to, if you are going to
[00:34:06] assume, private ownership is assumed, which means, if
[00:34:10] you assume the problem, why do you always have to put
[00:34:14] the commas? the periods,
[00:34:17] look, Guico, eh, I'm going to start from back to front, I'm going
[00:34:21] to start with the electricity law, all the
[00:34:25] big, the big proposals to generate,
[00:34:28] let's say employment through the reactivation of construction
[00:34:31] pass because we have an electrical
[00:34:35] system eh
[00:34:38] robust, solid and that the private sector can
[00:34:42] participate in an important way due to
[00:34:46] the investment requirements that this
[00:34:49] electrical system depends on, so it is important
[00:34:52] to emphasize this so that all
[00:34:56] the people from the executive and legislative who are listening to your
[00:34:59] program today, understand that yes we are taking steps, but that
[00:35:03] we have to continue consolidating a situation so that there can
[00:35:07] be a country without electricity, well, it is simply a country that will not
[00:35:11] be able to advance in the reconstruction and even more so at this moment, so
[00:35:15] we urge the competent bodies, the National
[00:35:18] Assembly, to review and expand
[00:35:22] the concepts that you just mentioned in order to
[00:35:26] have electricity to undertake the reconstruction of the
[00:35:29] country. You spoke of
[00:35:31] subsidies and I want to make this word
[00:35:35] very clear in this part and in this intervention regarding the
[00:35:39] subsidies that are being offered by the
[00:35:42] state for the victims who
[00:35:45] lost everything, eh,
[00:35:48] let's then develop the idea
[00:35:50] at
[00:35:52] 6 in the afternoon on the 24th, you were probably
[00:35:56] starting, as was my case, preparing to watch the Brazil game, I don't
[00:35:59] remember Brazil, something, and suddenly
[00:36:03] everything moved, well, and well, there are a lot of
[00:36:06] reactions, there are people who, well,
[00:36:09] left and thank God they were able to
[00:36:13] survive and left. suddenly with shorts,
[00:36:16] a t-shirt and even barefoot, but
[00:36:20] at 6:05 they had absolutely nothing,
[00:36:23] everything had been taken by the yes,
[00:36:27] well, there are 17 thousand people at this moment in the shelters of La
[00:36:31] Guaira who are in those conditions,
[00:36:34] indeed the government gave a
[00:36:38] social response and very
[00:36:41] logical with a reality-based
[00:36:44] approach, that is, what do we do if all these
[00:36:48] people even lost their means of production,
[00:36:51] then a plan of direct subsidy to demand
[00:36:54] is proposed, that is, up to $70,000 they
[00:36:58] offer you a subsidy of 8000 of
[00:37:01] 80% which translates into a subsidy of
[00:37:05] $56, and then they
[00:37:07] tell you that the quota, that is, the part that you are going to put which is
[00:37:11] 20% you can pay, you can pay it in
[00:37:15] 25 years with a very subsidized rate, everything I am
[00:37:18] saying, eh, has to be confirmed
[00:37:22] eh through the regulations that the executive will issue, but to speak of general
[00:37:26] lines of what is happening,
[00:37:28] this is very interesting,
[00:37:31] because
[00:37:33] a state of emergency like the one
[00:37:36] we have, the state can, can put, but you said
[00:37:40] something even more important, you said, well, but
[00:37:44] this is money that the state has to put, the government is the one that is going to
[00:37:48] be, let's say, the feeding of the money that
[00:37:51] all this system has to have, consequently
[00:37:54] we have a subsidy plan, direct for
[00:37:58] demand generated by the specific condition that the
[00:38:01] tragedy brings, we do not have at this
[00:38:05] moment due to the
[00:38:07] politics and macroeconomic conditions of the country, the
[00:38:11] conditions for the banking sector to enter
[00:38:14] massively to offer all the mortgage loans that
[00:38:17] made the middle class of Venezuela exist
[00:38:21] and be absolutely robust and generate
[00:38:24] let's say those dynamic growths that we had in
[00:38:27] Venezuela that we all agree that
[00:38:31] conditions change and credit can exist, of course
[00:38:35] it can, and that we are constantly aiming from
[00:38:38] the private sector with sustained contributions for this to
[00:38:42] happen, of course it can, what
[00:38:45] I do want to make clear today is that we today
[00:38:49] are not going to your bank's office and they tell you, look, I want one of those subsidized loans, that does not
[00:38:53] exist, that does not exist, that is for the people who are
[00:38:57] in the. products that can in the camps that can
[00:39:00] prove that they lost their home and
[00:39:04] that correctly according to the vision
[00:39:07] that we share in this program, eh,
[00:39:11] we see as a positive government
[00:39:13] contribution, eh, that will bring
[00:39:16] conditions obviously insofar as there is greater
[00:39:20] traceability of those resources, greater
[00:39:24] auditability of where those resources go and a
[00:39:27] follow-up that shows
[00:39:31] is being put is for what is being
[00:39:34] said will be done, without a doubt we will have
[00:39:38] a circle that can be a circuit that will serve all. Now there is
[00:39:42] a topic which is the figure, it does not matter
[00:39:45] how many apartments can enter here, the important thing
[00:39:49] is to think about how we create conditions in our vision
[00:39:52] so that more homes are produced, so that there is
[00:39:56] more contribution in construction, so that there is
[00:39:59] employment, so that there is a virtuous circle where
[00:40:05] society and it is there where we observe as an
[00:40:08] interesting and important step this
[00:40:39] Before going on air, there is a moment that no one sees,
[00:40:43] the order of each note, the calm before the
[00:40:47] signal and the value that each word must
[00:40:50] have. It's not about filling a
[00:40:53] screen, but about inhabiting your
[00:40:56] reality, because... it's not just saying what
[00:40:59] happens, but going beyond
[00:41:02] esa realidad sobre la
[00:41:04] reunión,
[00:41:07] te explicamos el mundo para que entiendas tu país,
[00:41:11] traducimos la ciencia para cuidar tu bienestar, filtramos el
[00:41:14] futuro para que lo uses hoy, verificamos las cifras y las
[00:41:18] traducimos tu día a día para que decidas con claridad, llevamos tu
[00:41:22] voz desde cada rincón de Venezuela,
[00:41:25] documentamos la pasión que nos une Como país
[00:41:28] demostramos cultura real, sin
[00:41:32] el talento que nos representa, todas estas
[00:41:36] voces, todas estas fuentes, unidas por
[00:41:39] una... la pasión la
[00:41:41] noticia
[00:41:44] tras 31 años de entrega, hoy
[00:41:47] renovamos nuestro compromiso con más fuerza
[00:41:50] que nunca, porque nuestra mayor
[00:41:53] especialización es mantenerte bien informados.
[00:42:10] This Saturday in another vision, we took a 2-year pause
[00:42:13] and due to what
[00:42:17] this tragedy was, which really not only hit
[00:42:21] the Guaira but an entire nation, eh,
[00:42:24] we had to turn our program around, it's 24 months in which
[00:42:27] we can help at least 5000 children, I say
[00:42:31] at least because 5 children is a super
[00:42:35] low number for what
[00:42:39] has to know... How much can it cover? Another vision,
[00:42:42] Saturday, 1 in the afternoon on
[00:42:45] Globovisión.
[00:45:17] Pablo González with us, the new
[00:45:21] law, okay, the rent, my
[00:45:24] mom, maybe your mom
[00:45:27] too, before there was
[00:45:30] credit, do you remember some Arabs with some suitcases
[00:45:33] that
[00:45:36] ingeve, the famous ingeve, by the way they set up.
[00:45:41] a large area, credit helped Venezuelans have cars,
[00:45:45] things, everything, because credit is the basis of
[00:45:48] capitalism, of business, of trade, of
[00:45:52] credit, the United States the country of credit, you can drive a
[00:45:56] Ferrari, yes, right now there is leasing and and
[00:46:00] all that you buy, you rent the car, you can fly a plane if you want,
[00:46:03] if you can pay for it, no, so
[00:46:07] of course. If you
[00:46:10] thought ahead,
[00:46:13] you take
[00:46:16] that phenomenon that happens with cache, that
[00:46:19] happens with everything, it serves you to with this
[00:46:23] emotional solidarity that
[00:46:25] there is of of of Venezuelan spirit, well let's go
[00:46:29] forward, let's get this done, it starts to open up in all
[00:46:33] senses, during the pandemic Venezuelan businessmen
[00:46:36] were able to supply the domestic market.
[00:46:40] Food, then the government that was
[00:46:44] anti-business realized that they were not enemies they had there, on the
[00:46:47] contrary, patriots who stayed, they did not take the money
[00:46:51] outside nor
[00:46:54] did they conspire but they stayed here then
[00:46:57] of course if you understand that there are different
[00:47:01] currents but there is a current that can drive the country
[00:47:04] forward which is all this that has happened to us all this
[00:47:08] history that all this confrontation
[00:47:11] wow perverse that you get into the nets and that's people with knives
[00:47:14] slitting each other's throats then if you don't get out of
[00:47:18] of of of the mentality
[00:47:20] Uh-huh, you can't change, then if the
[00:47:24] private business sector, I at least am defending, I
[00:47:28] defend it, I don't know if it serves for anything, that the oil
[00:47:31] company and business
[00:47:35] should seek in Venezuelan private capital
[00:47:37] one of its supports, because that's what the Americans did and look
[00:47:41] how they fared, but here there are people who
[00:47:45] believe, in the government there are still those, that it
[00:47:48] is bad, and there are those who want. that it is good, but they don't
[00:47:51] do it because how
[00:47:54] many
[00:47:57] obstacles, guys, everything is an
[00:48:01] obstacle and there is no will, no, I don't know how you see it,
[00:48:04] look, one of the most important concepts and
[00:48:08] again I thank you for the introduction that
[00:48:11] from the Venezuelan real estate chamber we have been observing is to call for
[00:48:14] us to recover trust among us Venezuelans, that gesture of
[00:48:18] solidarity, that gesture of help, the people who
[00:48:21] came down we. in our 20 chambers,
[00:48:24] we carried out operations,
[00:48:27] we collected food, we brought aid, eh, from people who
[00:48:31] were shoulder to shoulder with the
[00:48:33] community, that is an impulse that cannot be lost,
[00:48:37] that is an impulse that must be kept, because that is part of what
[00:48:41] one could define as Venezuelan identity, being
[00:48:44] Venezuelan is being supportive and being Venezuelan is
[00:48:47] being able to accompany, but you just said
[00:48:51] something very important, it is a society that
[00:48:54] is highly eh, let's say
[00:48:57] bombarded or is based on a terrible
[00:49:01] lack of trust among ourselves,
[00:49:03] look, when we talk about the
[00:49:07] law, at the same time there are
[00:49:11] the law, and one comes to understand that
[00:49:15] that they have certain, certain basis for being
[00:49:19] right, and it is there where we call to think. What kind of country
[00:49:22] do we want? This, this situation forces
[00:49:25] us to think about how we reconstruct ourselves as
[00:49:28] a society, and you said something very important, how we
[00:49:32] build ourselves as a society starting from
[00:49:35] ourselves, forgetting a little about the topic of
[00:49:38] status or executive
[00:49:41] politics, and it is there where we have to call on Venezuelan
[00:49:45] capital to enter, Venezuelan capital is called
[00:49:48] to the reconstruction of the country then. They will tell me, well, but
[00:49:51] the legal framework does not exist, well, the rental law is
[00:49:55] an example, I am convinced that
[00:49:58] there are next steps that will serve for
[00:50:01] this, but while we are in a debate about how
[00:50:05] the money from multilaterals enters, that
[00:50:09] if we have a problem of opacity in public
[00:50:12] accounts, if we are on the gray
[00:50:16] list of everything
[00:50:20] control of financing to terrorism,
[00:50:24] but we can call on Venezuelans to take a step of trust and
[00:50:28] build that Venezuela and that society
[00:50:30] that we want, then let's analyze a
[00:50:33] little what you said about credits and
[00:50:37] and the Arab of the gebe
[00:50:40] savannah, countries grow because they have
[00:50:44] credit, countries grow because they have a financial system sufficiently
[00:50:48] robust
[00:50:52] the... initiatives you have and to be able to build
[00:50:55] with you prosperity, abundance, eh,
[00:50:58] wealth, the Venezuelan
[00:51:01] banking system, due to the macroeconomic
[00:51:04] condition of the country, has become very
[00:51:07] small, and it is a system that needs
[00:51:11] to be updated, but it is in the given conditions, you said
[00:51:14] it very clearly, this is a matter of decisions,
[00:51:18] of making decisions, being effective and it is in the given conditions.
[00:51:21] The
[00:51:24] the Venezuelan banking sector is infinitely large
[00:51:27] and the capacity of those professionals who are currently waiting for the
[00:51:31] conditions for us to, let's say, start generating responses
[00:51:35] through the banking sector, that is there, just as the promoters are, just as
[00:51:39] the farmers are, just as all productive sectors
[00:51:42] are waiting for the conditions to
[00:51:45] contribute, again, the
[00:51:48] capital that is needed is in our
[00:51:52] own pockets, so I invite you to reflect on what
[00:51:55] kind of country we want, those of us who are here, what we see from
[00:51:59] outside, due to the events of January, we began to
[00:52:02] receive calls from people who wanted to see what the
[00:52:06] opportunities that the real estate business could offer at that time
[00:52:10] for their profitability and we told them:
[00:52:14] all possibilities exist, but we do not have the legal
[00:52:17] framework, today we say, the legal
[00:52:21] framework is already there, enter and
[00:52:24] contribute to generating that country we want
[00:52:27] and that is the message that I believe from the private sector
[00:52:31] we have to Venezuelans. Venezuelans have to see that there
[00:52:35] is, as I told you a while ago, a chamber of commerce with a high
[00:52:38] percentage of approval from the
[00:52:41] Venezuelan population, they exist because they are committed
[00:52:44] people, people who are giving everything to
[00:52:47] create conditions for those businesses they have and all their
[00:52:51] members under the
[00:52:54] umbrella organizations or sectors, such as the real estate chamber or
[00:52:58] regional ones, can have the benefit of being
[00:53:02] able to influence public policies because what we do as a guild is
[00:53:05] nothing more than trying to influence, trying to generate
[00:53:08] conditions, but on a social level, I think the
[00:53:12] message is general, the message is: let's open
[00:53:15] up a bit the spectrum of the panorama
[00:53:19] that we see and let's see how we contribute to the country and
[00:53:23] invite Venezuelans to invest in the country
[00:53:27] because that money is there, without a doubt,
[00:53:29] we have to continue developing the legal framework, but more
[00:53:33] important than the legal framework is that we can recognize each other, that we respect each other,
[00:53:37] that we can recognize and respect each other, let's go to the break and we'll be back,
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[00:56:07] grateful to God for this opportunity to allow us to be
[00:56:11] that difference between life and
[00:56:14] death, to be able to try to reach the
[00:56:17] people under the rubble quickly to increase the possibility of recovering them alive, I think
[00:56:21] we must maintain that mission,
[00:56:24] that we must form many teams like Jorge Bins
[00:56:27] and
[00:56:28] Tsunami.
[00:56:59] Pablo González,
[00:57:02] this is the moment to bet on the country. Look
[00:57:06] here we have a lot of years before even where
[00:57:10] political factors think they are the protagonists and not the
[00:57:13] people, the people have to be motivated. Then the situation that
[00:57:17] occurred on January 3rd also, that is a
[00:57:20] situation that has good things and bad things, because that's how you have to
[00:57:23] see it, the good thing is that it gives you the
[00:57:27] opportunity to review the mistakes you made
[00:57:31] to get out of them, that is the stabilization process, now that
[00:57:35] the government takes advantage of that, the government has to show willingness to
[00:57:38] change, if I, if you ask me, I am
[00:57:42] persuaded
[00:57:45] that the government is showing willingness to...
[00:57:48] because the private sector, specifically, which is what I
[00:57:51] can speak for, has been convened, has been heard, the
[00:57:55] doors are open and I am very
[00:57:58] very positively
[00:58:01] projected that our contributions will become
[00:58:04] the basis of a different
[00:58:07] Venezuela, but again I insist Quico, what
[00:58:10] we all do from our our
[00:58:13] platform, from our space will be positive, and
[00:58:17] exclusively if we have confidence among ourselves,
[00:58:20] what I would like to leave as a final
[00:58:24] message in this wonderful, wonderful time that
[00:58:28] I have shared with you and that I appreciate very much
[00:58:31] the opportunity you have given me today,
[00:58:34] nothing works unless we Venezuelans
[00:58:37] recognize each other, respect each other and begin to generate
[00:58:41] confidence in the country and I hope that soon when you
[00:58:44] invite me again I can tell you we are taking
[00:58:48] these steps in a decisive way, we Venezuelans,
[00:58:50] with the savings of Venezuelans and respecting the initiative of Venezuelans,
[00:58:54] that look, in the Venezuela
[00:58:58] of your dad, your mom got a
[00:59:02] loan, bought a house and left it to you, then you
[00:59:05] took money from there and
[00:59:08] gathered, bought others to when you retired or left them
[00:59:12] to your children or lived off rent, all that was
[00:59:15] destroyed by the expropriation.
[00:59:18] being rich is bad, all that discourse destroyed that,
[00:59:21] no, I believe that this is an
[00:59:24] opportunity to go back a little
[00:59:27] bit to get the good, to go
[00:59:30] forward, no, it's like that, it's like that, I agree with you,
[00:59:34] I believe that the country changed, I believe that we have
[00:59:38] a wonderful opportunity, I believe that the north and the Venezuela
[00:59:42] that we are building will definitely be different and we will all
[00:59:45] be able to enjoy