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[00:00:00] It is also important to have that strength, that strength that
[00:00:03] they need, because we are starting, Maki, of course, we are
[00:00:07] starting this tragedy because it has been a tragedy.
[00:00:10] So, well, I believe that people are aware that this, as we have repeated
[00:00:14] so many times, will be long-term, and now is when sustained work,
[00:00:18] supportive work is needed. Yes,
[00:00:21] seeing the other, exactly, seeing the other, because we
[00:00:24] cannot be ourselves, oh, nothing happened to me, that's
[00:00:28] good, no, no,
[00:00:31] you have to look somewhere else. Well, Elinor,
[00:00:34] thank you very much again for this time, and well,
[00:00:38] you who are listening, especially those who are
[00:00:41] believers, the strength of the rosary is
[00:00:43] very important, it moves mountains, there is
[00:00:47] nothing that with the prayer of the rosary whether short or long, depending on God's
[00:00:51] will, will not be fulfilled, so here we
[00:00:54] say goodbye, thank you very much,
[00:00:55] thank you.
[00:01:01] structures. The transmission towers of
[00:01:05] Yaracuy, in the
[00:01:14] them so that they always feel the
[00:02:04] Hello, how are you, happy evening, as always, it is a pleasure to be with all of you from this
[00:02:08] moment, the stellar report team is still on the street, this
[00:02:11] time, they moved to the municipality of Chacao, specifically zone
[00:02:15] zero in the Petunia building, we are going to talk with Gustavo
[00:02:18] Duque, mayor of this municipality, of course, the topic, the seismic
[00:02:22] double that shook Venezuela and that affected this
[00:02:26] municipality on June 24. Mayor, as always, it is a pleasure
[00:02:29] to have you here. Del Valle, thank you, a pleasure Mayor, for having been
[00:02:33] attentive to us from the first moment, to our neighbors, we
[00:02:36] thank you very much, more than a month has passed since
[00:02:40] June 24, since the seismic double that unfortunately shook
[00:02:43] Venezuela, your municipality was affected, uh,
[00:02:47] four buildings collapsed, we would like to know, uh, first
[00:02:51] of all, what does that represent in the universe of
[00:02:55] buildings that the municipality has, because since
[00:02:58] the 1967 earthquake,
[00:03:00] it is said that this municipality is seismic and especially the area in which we
[00:03:03] are, it must be said, it must be highlighted that we are, uh,
[00:03:07] right behind us is the Petunia building,
[00:03:10] a building that was one of those that collapsed here in
[00:03:14] the municipality that June 24 after
[00:03:17] 6 in the afternoon, uh, we would like you to tell us what the
[00:03:22] moment of the percentage is because there has been a lot of talk, a lot of speculation, they start talking about
[00:03:25] supposedly you can't live in the municipality of Chacao because there are high
[00:03:29] risks. if it shakes again, all
[00:03:33] rooms where there are elderly people the buildings are at risk and they are even talking about, uh, well, from the point of
[00:03:36] view of the value of
[00:03:41] with resources from these companies I mentioned to you, and with properties, no, yes, well, uh, note the following,
[00:03:43] unfortunately, three residential buildings and one commercial
[00:03:47] building collapsed, of course it hurts us deeply because people we
[00:03:51] loved very much lived in these buildings, in my case, I have
[00:03:54] 23 years working for the Chacao municipality and
[00:03:58] I know most of my neighbors by sight and I've dealt with them since before I was
[00:04:02] mayor, it was very painful, but as you ask from a
[00:04:05] percentage point of view, understanding that in Chacao there are 3,100
[00:04:09] infrastructures such as buildings, shopping centers, business,
[00:04:12] residential, three residential, one commercial collapsed, really, uh, it's not
[00:04:16] 1%, but obviously it hurts us deeply, it breaks our hearts that this has
[00:04:20] happened, but in the end the entire city has
[00:04:23] delicate seismic characteristics, uh,
[00:04:26] and these seismic characteristics have to do with
[00:04:30] what happened not only in the double earthquake just now but in the
[00:04:34] 1967 earthquake, this area in which we are has very particular seismic
[00:04:38] characteristics, the large ones, but even so most of the
[00:04:41] buildings in this urbanization not only withstood the 1967
[00:04:45] earthquake, but they withstood this double earthquake that experts
[00:04:48] say would have been a catastrophe anywhere in the world,
[00:04:52] times, with the accompaniment, with here many buildings responded well and some had been reinforced
[00:04:55] after '67, they are still standing. Now, Mayor,
[00:04:59] uh, before we get into how
[00:05:03] things have progressed and what has happened after a month of this seismic double,
[00:05:06] and how the work is going here, we would like you to give us some numbers, how many
[00:05:10] people unfortunately died, if you have what the
[00:05:14] statistics are, how the recognition process has been
[00:05:17] and we see that as of today, uh,
[00:05:21] well, the mobility right in front of the
[00:05:25] Petunia, uh, well, is complete, in fact, if you can
[00:05:28] observe behind us, traffic is passing normally, the
[00:05:32] Petunia has already been cordoned off,
[00:05:35] also the obelisk that we have quite close here,
[00:05:38] how is that situation? Well, unfortunately,
[00:05:43] 68 neighbors died, neighbors and people who were
[00:05:46] visiting our neighbors, even here behind us there were some
[00:05:49] vehicles that were waiting for the traffic light to change and
[00:05:53] unfortunately, when the Petunia broke, it fell
[00:05:56] on them too and it was very painful, very unfortunate, uh, but
[00:05:59] in the midst of this tragedy we rescued 26 people alive,
[00:06:03] five companion animals as well and well, from
[00:06:06] that moment as you said we have started a work not
[00:06:10] only of community organization that we already had, but of
[00:06:13] giving a timely response to our neighbors in the midst of the
[00:06:17] desolation they feel, not only those who lose their home, because
[00:06:20] here there are neighbors who also survived and that
[00:06:24] expectation, we are working with
[00:06:27] company of the mayor's office, of the management and those who are in the affected
[00:06:30] buildings, especially those three or four first floors that most
[00:06:34] of the buildings are seriously affected, with them we are also
[00:06:37] doing a support work, how many for example, uh, here, Yes,
[00:06:41] we would like you to illustrate Mayor, for example,
[00:06:44] the traffic was restored, what, what work did you have to do apart from the
[00:06:48] paving that we obviously just did, tell us about
[00:06:51] that, well, it's that when the
[00:06:55] building collapsed, because it underwent what experts call
[00:06:58] the pancake effect, where the
[00:07:01] sheets, or rather, the slabs, were one on top of the
[00:07:05] other, and the top part broke off and from approximately the 9th or
[00:07:09] 10th floor, they fell onto the avenue that is...
[00:07:13] the avenue sank about 40 cm, obviously damaging
[00:07:16] the gas pipes, drinking water, sewage, all the internet
[00:07:20] pipes and after removing
[00:07:23] the debris we evidenced these damages and decided to make a complete
[00:07:27] intervention of the entire avenue, which was, as you see,
[00:07:30] recovered, paved, we redid the sidewalks,
[00:07:34] installed new poles and well, we closed the
[00:07:37] perimeter of the Petunia
[00:07:40] precisely to protect.
[00:07:51] Or the people who are the successors of those who unfortunately died, this has also
[00:07:55] been done in all the buildings that collapsed, yes, yes,
[00:07:59] we are doing it, the response time, Mayor, I would like to know the response time
[00:08:02] that the mayor's office,
[00:08:05] the civil protection teams had that day, well,
[00:08:09] we had been working for years on the
[00:08:11] issue of... the earthquake protocols in the municipality of Chacao, as you know, after '67,
[00:08:14] the neighbors have always had that issue in mind,
[00:08:17] if you see my social networks you will see information and neighborhood
[00:08:21] talks where there are historical photos of all the training that our
[00:08:24] neighbors had, uh, I feel that protocol was fulfilled between 70 and
[00:08:28] 80% because not everyone reacts the same and the response
[00:08:32] times from the earthquake until the first
[00:08:35] 30-40 civil protection officials and the
[00:08:39] police and Saluchao arrived was approximately
[00:08:43] between 3 and 5 minutes, we also have the log of the
[00:08:46] videos that demonstrate this and the radio log of the
[00:08:50] response time, uh, from that moment
[00:08:53] obviously volunteers, neighbors
[00:08:57] who came and also national, regional authorities,
[00:09:00] volunteer companies that also sent us machinery
[00:09:04] to be able to do the work and in
[00:09:07] general terms the response time to the collapsed structures
[00:09:10] was between three and seven minutes for our official
[00:09:13] to arrive, uh, we have to take the first break here tonight, we are
[00:09:17] talking with Gustavo Duque, mayor of the municipality of Chacao, of course, the topic,
[00:09:21] the actions, what is being done in the municipality
[00:09:24] after June 24 when four buildings
[00:09:28] completely collapsed in this municipality, Mayor, I would like
[00:09:31] to know, out of that universe of 3,100 buildings,
[00:09:35] how many, uh, what is the situation regarding
[00:09:38] the yellow, the yellow traffic light. green and
[00:09:41] red for the buildings and of course talk about the
[00:09:45] response beyond this first phase that
[00:09:48] you as mayor have given to the inhabitants who
[00:09:51] survived this building, we take a break and upon our return we continue
[00:09:55] talking with Gustavo Duque, mayor of the municipality of Chacao. Today more than ever it is important to be
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[00:11:38] Reporte Estelar, a special report, we are in the
[00:11:41] Chacao municipality in Los Palos Grandes, uh,
[00:11:44] our hashtags tonight #reporteChacao, we are
[00:11:48] talking with Gustavo Duque, mayor of the municipality of Chacao, our account
[00:11:51] @reporteport@'. Canelón in Istra. Mayor, we went to the
[00:11:55] break and I left you a question, out of those 3,100
[00:11:59] buildings in the entire municipality, how many
[00:12:02] are in yellow, how many in red, and well, talk a
[00:12:06] little, we know that you, more than 15 days ago,
[00:12:10] started a census of the people who
[00:12:13] fortunately survived this seismic double. Yes, well, the definitive
[00:12:16] numbers, uh, after this first sweep, after the
[00:12:20] first sweep, in which
[00:12:24] we evidenced how many buildings are in red, yellow, and blue
[00:12:28] and green, we managed to determine that regarding the color
[00:12:31] red, which I have always said is not necessarily an immediate demolition
[00:12:35] sentence, out of the 46 red ones, there are 16 that do not have
[00:12:39] structural damage, but some sections of stairs
[00:12:43] collapsed and we cannot allow our neighbors to enter until the
[00:12:46] stairs are repaired for safety reasons, if there were an aftershock, they would have to
[00:12:49] leave, and 30 that do have a cultural
[00:12:53] damage criterion, but just like in the 1967
[00:12:56] earthquake, after that came the evaluations
[00:13:00] of the buildings and many of those buildings that were
[00:13:03] seriously affected in their structures were
[00:13:06] recovered, reinforced and are still standing,
[00:13:10] so we are working on that criterion, also
[00:13:13] understanding that our neighbors will not have the economic capacity
[00:13:17] to assume a repair that can range from 40 thousand to even
[00:13:20] 200,000 to reinforce and save a building and
[00:13:24] that is why we started the support plan with
[00:13:27] banks, private companies and insurance companies, is
[00:13:31] that enough, Mayor, that support plan? Well, also
[00:13:34] understanding that the economic situation we have in Venezuela
[00:13:38] obviously doesn't help a family, and especially in this
[00:13:41] municipality there are many elderly people who, well, who don't have
[00:13:45] their family members here in the country and so it is very
[00:13:49] expensive, well, the truth of the
[00:13:52] matter is that, obviously, it is not efficient, but the worst thing
[00:13:56] I can do is sit idly by waiting for the money to arrive. That's why
[00:13:59] we made these alliances with
[00:14:03] them, understanding that it's not a loan to our neighbors because they won't be able
[00:14:07] to pay it, the mayor's office is giving them a tax credit or tax
[00:14:11] benefits for 2 years, they pay for the repair of these
[00:14:15] red buildings immediately and over the next 2 years the mayor's office
[00:14:19] will deduct it from their taxes in order to move quickly
[00:14:22] with that, as you asked me. There are 46 in
[00:14:26] red, there are 157 residential in
[00:14:30] yellow and the rest are in green. When do these repair
[00:14:34] works begin? As of Monday, August 3,
[00:14:37] we will not only have the repair of this first
[00:14:41] group of buildings that are in red, but we will also have
[00:14:44] an intervention that will also extend to the apartments. I take this
[00:14:48] opportunity to tell you that through a census we conducted that ended
[00:14:52] or is in the process of concluding, but surely will end in two
[00:14:56] or three days, what is the percentage of that census? We have already completed 70% in 18
[00:15:00] days and it is being carried out by the condominium boards of the buildings and the organized
[00:15:03] communities, they have the capacity through a form to go into
[00:15:07] detail of each apartment, evaluate the people who live
[00:15:10] there, the situation of the people as well as the damage that
[00:15:13] the apartment has, in terms of damaged walls,
[00:15:16] cracks, ceramics, sanitary pieces, doors,
[00:15:20] windows and based on that we are replicating the traffic light that
[00:15:24] we use in the buildings and considering the buildings from criteria,
[00:15:27] the apartments, from green criterion, an apartment without damage,
[00:15:31] yellow criterion, an apartment that has moderate damage and red
[00:15:35] criterion, an apartment with severe damage, the parameter. These are apartments of
[00:15:38] 80 square meters and with two bedrooms each to be able to have a
[00:15:41] parameter, with that already advanced we can
[00:15:44] perhaps today with 70% of the census
[00:15:48] start this by supporting it as we do with our own resources, while
[00:15:52] international and national resources do not arrive, which we are pursuing
[00:15:55] with the AC, Inter-American Bank,
[00:15:58] the national government, if those
[00:16:01] resources do not arrive with our own resources, as of Monday we will start this work that I
[00:16:05] would like to show you, for example:
[00:16:08] The census now allows us to search, here
[00:16:12] we have the location, the urbanization, all the
[00:16:14] urbanizations of Chacao, let's put an example, let's put here
[00:16:18] Los Palos Grandes where we are, then we will put the age range,
[00:16:22] the idea is to start supporting our neighbors over
[00:16:25] 65 years old starting Monday and progressively as resources
[00:16:29] arrive, helping all the others who have requested resources, there are people
[00:16:33] who are already working and we thank them, but people who will not
[00:16:36] be able to do it. From next week and as resources arrive
[00:16:40] we will be increasing this, but we will start with neighbors
[00:16:44] over 65 years old and with apartments that are in
[00:16:47] yellow and red criteria, here you see
[00:16:51] the urbanization, age and the apartment criteria, when we click
[00:16:55] filter
[00:16:57] immediately all our neighbors who are in that age
[00:17:01] range and who have apartments in yellow or red are displayed,
[00:17:05] I open an example here, here we have a neighbor,
[00:17:08] 75 years old from
[00:17:11] Residencias Mauri and when we open the details of his apartment
[00:17:15] we see that he has for example 12 cracks
[00:17:18] in the walls, he has damage to the ceiling
[00:17:23] damage, we have the capacity to reach each apartment as I tell
[00:17:27] you and know exactly the damage the apartment
[00:17:30] has so that we can optimize the few resources we have in
[00:17:34] this first stage with those over 65 years old and
[00:17:38] this is replicated as you can see in all the urbanizations of the municipality
[00:17:42] where we have people in that age range, starting Monday this
[00:17:46] process begins with about 250 workers
[00:17:49] deployed in the first stage in 130 buildings, Mayor, I would
[00:17:52] like to know, for example, these people where the repair
[00:17:56] will begin, who are basically in
[00:17:59] yellow and green, yellow and
[00:18:03] red, sorry, where are they housed, are they in
[00:18:06] camps.
[00:18:08] where are they or in family homes? Well, uh,
[00:18:12] ratify, the criterion is being replicated but in the
[00:18:15] apartments, green, yellow and red, most
[00:18:19] of these neighbors, I recognize the effort that has been made by the central
[00:18:22] government to have decent and quality shelters, but in our
[00:18:26] case there is a situation that has to do with
[00:18:29] our neighbors who are mostly people between 65
[00:18:33] years old, even over 100 years old and we want to
[00:18:37] keep those neighbors close and not uproot them from their environment,
[00:18:41] because most of them do not have family members here and depend
[00:18:44] even on medical treatments that you provide them, so we have made
[00:18:48] an investment, I don't say an effort but an investment and we currently
[00:18:51] have approximately 400 hotel
[00:18:54] rooms for this group who are in buildings with
[00:18:58] red classification who cannot enter and some who
[00:19:01] are in yellow on the first three floors are very affected and have nowhere
[00:19:05] else to go or another home. There are 400
[00:19:10] as well as families who have nowhere to go and we
[00:19:13] have them there for 3 months in the first stage, all
[00:19:18] the mayor's office of the municipality of Chacao, that's right, we thank
[00:19:21] the owners of the hotels who have allowed us to have
[00:19:25] these people there at a very reasonable rate that helps us
[00:19:29] to be able to have them in this first stage for 3 months, because it's not just
[00:19:32] overnight stays, it's three months of overnight stays plus all
[00:19:36] the meals that we bring them daily, we are going to take a
[00:19:39] break on this conversation that we are having tonight with Gustavo Duque,
[00:19:43] mayor of the municipality of Chacao, about how the mayor's office
[00:19:47] of the municipality of Chacao has been working with the
[00:19:50] neighbors who were affected by the seismic double, we take a break and
[00:19:54] upon return, we continue here on Reporte Estelar.
[00:20:23] This Saturday in another vision, we made a 2-year
[00:20:27] pause and as a result of what
[00:20:30] was this tragedy that really not
[00:20:33] only hit La Guaira but an entire nation, uh,
[00:20:37] we had to come back, our program is for 24 months where
[00:20:41] we can serve at least 500 children, I say
[00:20:45] at least because 500 children is a very
[00:20:48] low number for... for what we are facing, but one also
[00:20:52] has to know how far one can cover, another vision,
[00:20:56] Saturday, one in the afternoon on Globovisión.
[00:21:18] Venezuela, good evening. Welcome to the present Globovision news
[00:21:22] advance, immediately we are going to hear statements from the Minister of Electric Energy, Rolando
[00:21:26] Alcalá, let's see indeed
[00:21:29] after June 24, there was a great
[00:21:32] impact in several states of the country and among them the central
[00:21:35] region, specifically in the
[00:21:38] Carabo thermoelectric plant and in Planta Centro, there
[00:21:42] was damage to the infrastructure and to the
[00:21:45] electrical equipment, there was also damage to the
[00:21:51] the 400 line, Planta Centro,
[00:21:55] Termocarao plant we have already recovered
[00:21:59] from the four generation groups, uh, there was
[00:22:02] damage to all the transformers, we have already
[00:22:06] recovered two, in the coming days we will be recovering the
[00:22:09] third and for this this would be adding
[00:22:13] 450
[00:22:15] uh 450 MW of the 600 that
[00:22:18] we lost something. Within the double earthquake, the
[00:22:21] link between Planta Centro and Yaracuy and the 400 line was
[00:22:24] also lost, which uh brings
[00:22:28] as a consequence a reduction in the transfer
[00:22:32] of power of about 100 MW for the
[00:22:35] central and western regions of the country, this
[00:22:39] led to instability in the national
[00:22:42] electrical system, but I must highlight the following, we are
[00:22:45] working 24 hours a day since the two
[00:22:49] earthquakes occurred. The Corpolec teams, the technical
[00:22:52] teams, engineers and workers, continue working and we have already
[00:22:56] recovered one of the three transmission towers that were
[00:22:59] practically knocked down with the double earthquake, we have already
[00:23:03] recovered one and we continue working
[00:23:06] to recover the other two remaining towers
[00:23:10] as soon as possible.
[00:23:14] Well friends, we heard Minister Rolando Alcalá talking about the
[00:23:18] recoveries that are being carried out in the national electricity system, in this
[00:23:22] way we bid farewell to the present Globovision news advance.
[00:23:53] We continue tonight talking from Los Palos
[00:23:56] Grandes, from zone zero of Los Palos Grandes, the Petunia
[00:23:59] building, one of the four buildings that was
[00:24:03] affected by the seismic double on June 24 and our guest
[00:24:06] is Gustavo Duque, mayor of the municipality of Chacao. Mayor, we went to the break
[00:24:10] and well, we were talking about everything that has
[00:24:13] happened after that initial
[00:24:17] post-earthquake response. We already
[00:24:20] see that all the debris was collected,
[00:24:23] vehicular traffic was also
[00:24:26] restored and we have had little more than a month of
[00:24:30] this, uh, the response that you have given as
[00:24:33] mayor's office, as head of government of the municipality,
[00:24:37] you already told us that you have people
[00:24:40] in hotels that the repair of the
[00:24:44] buildings in yellow and in red is starting,
[00:24:48] the materials with which that
[00:24:50] repair will be done, where are they coming from? Besides, this is not
[00:24:54] cheap, Mayor, in the midst of this situation, you
[00:24:58] said that you have not yet received a response from multilateral
[00:25:01] organizations, nor from the national government regarding money, uh,
[00:25:04] I would like to know how far that is advanced, if there will
[00:25:08] be something or absolutely nothing in terms of aid for the municipality, well,
[00:25:11] as you rightly say, we have worked on the
[00:25:15] protocols regarding the request for money,
[00:25:18] uh, from those with multinationals, bilateral
[00:25:21] companies, we are waiting for them and we have sent the forms, with the national
[00:25:24] government we have already made the first arrangements and they agreed
[00:25:27] to hold a meeting for the resources, because the protocols
[00:25:31] normally how do they end, our protocol when I reviewed it was the before, during
[00:25:34] and after the earthquake, precisely after the earthquake, when
[00:25:38] we have complied with the response
[00:25:42] the lifting of structures, with the general information, normally at this
[00:25:46] stage the local governments accompany
[00:25:50] the residents from a legal point of view so that insurance companies pay
[00:25:53] them in international protocols, unfortunately in
[00:25:56] our country and in our municipality not even 1% of the
[00:26:00] properties are insured. and we had to generate this protocol
[00:26:04] additional support for the recovery of homes and
[00:26:07] buildings, because we are looking at the municipality as a whole, and I tell the
[00:26:11] businessmen I meet with that it will do you no good to have the best hotel,
[00:26:14] the best bank, the best restaurant in the city if next door you have a building
[00:26:18] completely in ruins or abandoned. We are going to do it as a team, fortunately they
[00:26:21] are doing it. The materials, I
[00:26:24] have held, if you see my social media, meetings with everyone, including
[00:26:27] the sales representatives for materials that are in the municipality of Chacado.
[00:26:31] And with everyone, we reached an agreement. The one who is
[00:26:35] strong in selling a material that is a material that is, that is
[00:26:39] the one that earns the least, is the one that doesn't earn the most, is selling it to us at
[00:26:43] cost price, and each one of them agreed and said, for example, I have
[00:26:46] light bulbs in a range where I can sell them
[00:26:50] best. They gave us the best price. Practically no one
[00:26:54] who is doing this material sales business is making any profit, but everyone
[00:26:57] wants to see the municipality as a whole and quickly
[00:27:01] return to this new... normality. I am referring to light bulbs, windows,
[00:27:05] sanitary fixtures, ceramic tiles, cement, uh,
[00:27:09] bricks, there's everything and everyone is doing their part to make
[00:27:13] this happen. Now, Mayor, uh-huh, that's regarding
[00:27:16] the repairs of the buildings that have the yellow
[00:27:19] and red tags, but as for the
[00:27:23] buildings that completely collapsed, like the
[00:27:26] Petunia, obviously, according to the horizontal
[00:27:28] law, each person owns a piece
[00:27:32] of the land, that's right. Will you also intervene
[00:27:36] in the possible
[00:27:40] construction of another building or whatever is decided
[00:27:44] for its fate? Look, I have to be completely
[00:27:47] honest. The truth is that the mayor's office does not have the economic capacity to
[00:27:51] build a building here, neither in the Obelisco nor in Don
[00:27:54] Pepe. We are precisely making
[00:27:56] arrangements to see if we can help with the
[00:28:00] connections. Yesterday, the day before yesterday, they announced the possibility of opening
[00:28:03] bank credits again, and the truth is that, as you say, each
[00:28:07] of those who lived here, or their successors, owns an aliquot of that
[00:28:11] part. They will probably have, if they decide
[00:28:14] to build, to seek economic support from construction
[00:28:17] companies to do it. If they decide to sell
[00:28:21] the land, they will have something for a down payment for an apartment. Everything I
[00:28:24] can do, but being completely honest, there are more than 100 families who
[00:28:27] lost their apartment. I cannot tell them all that the mayor's office will give them an
[00:28:31] apartment because that would be a lie, and I always try to be
[00:28:35] completely honest on these issues, but we will provide all the necessary
[00:28:38] support, including from a documentary point of view. I have
[00:28:42] spoken lately about this issue, making this
[00:28:45] process for those who survived is complex. We, from here and the
[00:28:49] Obelisco, managed to recover many papers, uh property
[00:28:52] titles, licenses, birth certificates, but making
[00:28:56] this process of recovering the
[00:28:58] heritage from a documentary point of view to then be able to act and reach that point you
[00:29:02] say: okay, I own an aliquot of this piece of land, you need the
[00:29:06] documents and I have suggested that both the Zaren, the
[00:29:09] Seniat, the registries, have a link on their websites where
[00:29:13] very quickly and easily, those who are in
[00:29:17] the country, and as you say, here we have people whose children or their only heirs
[00:29:21] are outside the country, can access from anywhere in the world and have their
[00:29:25] armed folder for what they will need to face the next,
[00:29:28] the next step, which is to see how they recover their heritage. So that
[00:29:32] is a suggestion that I have made on several occasions and that then those
[00:29:36] relatives come and reach the instance, they seal it, they
[00:29:39] recognize it and they can start the process. The coordinations directly,
[00:29:43] Mayor, with the national government, has there been any type of
[00:29:46] call to support the management you are
[00:29:49] doing, in response to the inhabitants of the
[00:29:53] Chacao municipality? Look, from the very first moment, I must
[00:29:56] say it with sincerity, we had the support of the national
[00:30:00] government and the regional government.
[00:30:02] Support at all times, from the point of view of requests,
[00:30:06] we requested machinery, they brought us machinery, uh support
[00:30:09] from civil protection, Caracas firefighters, we have also had the support,
[00:30:13] I must say, from the diplomatic corps, we have had
[00:30:16] practically support from the entire diplomatic corps, not only from the point of view
[00:30:20] of coming here to be with us, but in the case of the
[00:30:24] United States government, the chargé d'affaires, has been very
[00:30:26] attentive, experts who have arrived in Venezuela, they have put them at the
[00:30:30] disposal of Chacao, we have done so.
[00:30:32] with the best experts in the world and they have helped us evaluate apartments,
[00:30:36] buildings, and that has also helped us to be faster in proposing
[00:30:40] solutions. Speaking of the diplomatic corps, a good part
[00:30:44] of the diplomatic corps is
[00:30:46] based in this municipality. Has there been any
[00:30:50] request from your part or any offer from one of
[00:30:54] them to accompany this entire post-event
[00:30:57] process? Look, we are uh...