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[00:00:11] at the meeting between
[00:00:19] Hello from the screens of Halk TV, I'm Irem Sansak.
[00:00:22] It's 1 PM, and until 4 PM, for exactly 3
[00:00:26] hours, we will be with you with Hot Agenda topics from Turkey
[00:00:30] and the world. We will have guests, and we will evaluate
[00:00:33] the agenda, hot topics one by one with our guests.
[00:00:36] If you have any questions, you can reach us through
[00:00:40] social media, you can tag us. My reporter and cameraman
[00:00:43] friends are completing their preparations, but before that, as always,
[00:00:46] let's talk about the hot topics, the headlines of the day one by one. The
[00:00:50] headline of the day is that there was a meeting on
[00:00:54] April 30 at the Presidential Complex,
[00:00:57] and today at 2 PM, President
[00:01:01] Erdoğan and Nationalist Movement Party leader Devlet
[00:01:04] Bahçeli will meet again at Beştepe. What's on
[00:01:08] the agenda? Of course, the framework law for a Turkey
[00:01:11] without terror will be followed. We are asking
[00:01:15] if the framework law will be in the commission tomorrow. Will
[00:01:18] it come to the commission tomorrow? There is such an expectation.
[00:01:22] Backstage information says so. Could there be a delay or not? We will ask Dilan Eltürk soon,
[00:01:26] but the signatures have been made. What will
[00:01:31] the new party do? Özgür Özel
[00:01:34] visited the relatives of martyrs and veterans today
[00:01:37] at Güven Park. The hunger strike of the veterans
[00:01:40] and relatives of martyrs continues. He said, "We will
[00:01:44] be with you until your rights are given." After making
[00:01:48] this statement next to the veterans and relatives of martyrs, he met with his legal
[00:01:52] staff. Let's continue and take a look. He met with
[00:01:55] his legal staff and did not sign. The 357th
[00:02:00] deputy signed the bill containing
[00:02:03] 12 articles, but it was said that the new party
[00:02:07] did not sign. It was said that from the accounts of the
[00:02:10] deputies of the new party, we saw the draft,
[00:02:13] we discussed it, and today, after meeting with the veterans,
[00:02:17] we are having a meeting with legal staff at
[00:02:20] 1:30 PM. That meeting will start in about half an hour,
[00:02:24] and after that, we will announce our decision and stance.
[00:02:27] This statement was made, no change in the general approach.
[00:02:30] And one of the important
[00:02:33] meetings of the day was that the Mumcu and
[00:02:37] Oktay families met with
[00:02:39] Akın Gürlek at the Ministry of Justice today around
[00:02:43] 10 AM. The Oktay Family
[00:02:46] was with Akıngürlek, and then Uğur Mumcu's family
[00:02:49] went to Akıngürlek, and a meeting was held. The Minister
[00:02:52] of Justice had previously stated that the files
[00:02:56] of unsolved murders would be discussed. All these topics
[00:03:00] and more will be with
[00:03:16] you soon. Our colleagues are continuing to follow
[00:03:20] echo from Trabzon the news on the ground at hot spots. Dilan Altürk with Aşkın Özdemir will share
[00:03:24] in the Grand National Assembly with the images of Sibel Madrek
[00:03:28] Güven Dinçmen next to the relatives
[00:03:34] with the images of our cameraman Hasan Yancı. There was a meeting with Akın Gürlek
[00:03:38] at the Ministry of Justice, there was a meeting of the families.
[00:03:41] Did the families leave? Was there a statement or not?
[00:03:45] What was discussed? What was talked about? Eda will share any details
[00:03:49] with us, but first, what is the latest situation
[00:03:52] regarding the framework law in the Grand National Assembly? Will
[00:03:56] the bill come to the commission tomorrow? Let's ask Dilan Altürk.
[00:04:03] Tomorrow, the Justice Committee will start discussions
[00:04:06] on the bill regarding strengthening national solidarity
[00:04:10] and social integration at 3:30 PM,
[00:04:13] but the schedule for the general assembly process
[00:04:17] is not yet clear. It could be on Sunday, or it
[00:04:20] could be delayed until next week, but expectations
[00:04:24] are that the general assembly process will start on Sunday.
[00:04:27] Of course, it was submitted to the Speaker's Office yesterday
[00:04:31] and carries the signatures of nearly 360 deputies.
[00:04:34] One of the first signatories is MHP leader Devlet Bahçeli,
[00:04:38] and of course, Devlet Bahçeli being the first
[00:04:41] signatory is important. He is known as the person
[00:04:45] who initiated the process. This process started with
[00:04:48] his call at the group meeting approximately two years ago,
[00:04:52] and today, or rather yesterday, he was the first to sign
[00:04:56] the bill submitted to the Parliament. And today, a meeting
[00:04:59] will be held between Bahçeli and Erdoğan at Beştepe.
[00:05:02] When it shows 2 PM, the two names will have
[00:05:05] held their third meeting of the year. The process
[00:05:09] was also on the agenda during their meeting in April,
[00:05:13] and at that time, the process had
[00:05:16] not yet turned into a bill, but this time,
[00:05:19] the text of the bill will also be present
[00:05:24] the two names. Yesterday, Erdoğan thanked Bahçeli
[00:05:28] at the NSC meeting for supporting this process
[00:05:31] and for being a signatory. He had a special thanks
[00:05:34] for Bahçeli, and today, it is expected that the
[00:05:38] bill consisting of 12 articles will be present
[00:05:42] at the meeting between the two names. After that,
[00:05:45] at 3:30 PM, there will be another important critical
[00:05:49] meeting under the chairmanship of Erdoğan. This will be
[00:05:53] the 4th NSC meeting of the year. As you know, this bill
[00:05:56] also emphasizes the NSC. What was that? The
[00:05:59] complete disarmament of this organization,
[00:06:03] the confirmation and verification process will be linked
[00:06:06] to the NSC's field reports, meaning it will come
[00:06:09] into force after being approved by the NSC.
[00:06:13] It will be published in the official gazette
[00:06:16] and come into force. And today, some field
[00:06:20] reports are aimed to be presented to Erdoğan
[00:06:23] at the NSC meeting. These field reports have
[00:06:26] been prepared by MIT, the Ministry of National Defense,
[00:06:29] and the Ministries of Interior and Foreign Affairs for
[00:06:33] about 6-7 months, and today, these field
[00:06:37] reports are aimed to be presented to Erdoğan, because
[00:06:40] the entry into force of this bill will be linked to an NSC decision.
[00:06:44] And when we look at the proposal, as we said,
[00:06:48] it consists of 12 articles. Members of the organization
[00:06:51] who commit murder will not benefit from this law.
[00:06:55] And of course, the establishment of two different boards
[00:06:58] will be aimed. One is a board to be established by the Presidency
[00:07:01] under the chairmanship of Vice President Cevdet Yılmaz,
[00:07:04] and the other is an observation commission
[00:07:08] to be established in the Parliament. This process
[00:07:11] will be followed by these two.
[00:07:14] The confirmation of the organization's disarmament
[00:07:18] and actually some emphasis on how the
[00:07:22] armed materials in the hands of the organization
[00:07:25] members who will return with them will be recorded
[00:07:29] will be monitored by those boards.
[00:07:32] They said it is not a special law
[00:07:35] for Abdullah Öcalan. Since
[00:07:39] the process started, actually, yesterday, Abdullah
[00:07:42] Güler also made a statement. He was asked if
[00:07:45] a status would be determined within
[00:07:48] the framework of this law. Abdullah Güler said that
[00:07:52] there is no such article at
[00:07:55] the moment, and it is not expected.
[00:07:58] But meeting with Öcalan by academics
[00:08:01] and journalists is not subject to any
[00:08:05] law or status. It is a prison
[00:08:08] under the supervision of the Ministry of Justice.
[00:08:11] Therefore, in the future, visits by journalists
[00:08:15] and academics regarding Öcalan's status
[00:08:18] may be possible. Perhaps in the future,
[00:08:21] these will be determined as a result of the
[00:08:25] boards to be established. As we said, there are
[00:08:28] critical meetings today. The meetings that Erdoğan
[00:08:31] will hold with both Bahçeli and then at
[00:08:35] the NSC will be important. Statements to be made
[00:08:38] based on this process will also be made. Generally,
[00:08:42] Erdoğan and Bahçeli do not make any statements after
[00:08:45] meeting, but the reflection of the NSC decisions
[00:08:49] is also expected. At the same time, today, there
[00:08:52] is a meeting of the new party in the Parliament.
[00:08:55] The meeting started at 1 PM under
[00:08:58] the chairmanship of Özgür Özel. The process will
[00:09:02] be on the agenda at that meeting. Özgür Özel
[00:09:06] is holding a meeting with the members of the
[00:09:09] process commission, the legal staff of the Justice
[00:09:12] Committee and the Constitutional Committee right now. Of course,
[00:09:16] the stance of Özgür Özel and the new party regarding
[00:09:19] this process was a matter of curiosity, because as
[00:09:23] CHP leader, Özgür Özel supported the process
[00:09:26] and was among the parties that gave members to the commission. And they had repeatedly
[00:09:30] stated that they supported the process. But on
[00:09:33] the one hand, this absolute invalidity process, and
[00:09:36] on the other hand, the issue of trustees, came
[00:09:40] one after another, and the establishment of the new party
[00:09:44] came. And Özgür Özel said in his statement yesterday
[00:09:47] that mistakes were made, but our stance is the same.
[00:09:51] So, we can say that Özgür Özel's stance
[00:09:54] in the new party's meeting today will also
[00:09:57] become clear. But of course, yesterday, he again
[00:10:01] pointed to the commission to be established tomorrow,
[00:10:05] or rather the Justice Committee, and said
[00:10:08] that our deputies there will also bring their criticisms
[00:10:25] They had stated that they would not sign a law
[00:10:28] they did not know or see. The new party's staff
[00:10:32] stated that there was an error in the procedure, and
[00:10:36] therefore, the decision to be made today will be the
[00:10:40] decision of the new party.
[00:10:41] We will follow the process
[00:10:45] with Aşkın Özdem. The details in the Grand
[00:10:48] National Assembly are like this. Dilan Altürk shared the
[00:10:51] developments with the images of Aşkın Özdemir. We will
[00:10:55] turn our cameras to the point where our relatives
[00:10:58] of martyrs and veterans are, to Güven Park. Sibel
[00:11:02] Mazrek is waiting for us. She will share with the images
[00:11:06] of Güven Dinçmen. What do our relatives of martyrs,
[00:11:09] our veterans say? What are their demands? It's been days,
[00:11:11] and the hunger strike continues,
[00:11:17] right Sibel? Yes, Hirem, the hunger strike has been
[00:11:20] going on for exactly 4 days, but the relatives of martyrs
[00:11:24] and veterans have been protesting at Güven Park, located
[00:11:27] in Kızılay, in the heart of Ankara, for 25 days.
[00:11:30] They want equal rights, that's actually their only
[00:11:34] demand, and that struggle, that resistance continues.
[00:11:37] And the veterans say, "We will be here until
[00:11:40] we get our rights." Our cameraman friend Güven Dinçmen
[00:11:43] should bring the veterans and relatives of martyrs
[00:11:47] who are protesting to the screens. Let me explain the details
[00:11:51] of the struggle here. They actually started
[00:11:54] this protest on July 13th. Their demand is this:
[00:11:58] regarding salaries, health, protest,
[00:12:01] and other social issues, the veterans and relatives
[00:12:04] of martyrs want the differences between them and ranked
[00:12:07] personnel to be eliminated. These are their only demands.
[00:12:11] And after this protest started, a bill was submitted to the
[00:12:15] Parliament. That bill passed the commission
[00:12:18] yesterday evening, but it is
[00:12:21] a bill that only envisages a salary increase.
[00:12:25] It is a bit more limited and
[00:12:28] does not meet the demands of the veterans and relatives
[00:12:31] of martyrs. In fact, the veterans and relatives
[00:12:35] of martyrs here say, "Our problem is not money,
[00:12:38] we want equal rights. We want our sacrifices
[00:12:41] to be talked about, not our statuses. We want
[00:12:44] equal rights." And they conveyed their reactions
[00:12:47] to the bill to Özgür Özel here minutes ago. He made a support visit
[00:12:51] here, and his messages were important.
[00:12:59] He had last visited on July 14th as
[00:13:02] the CHP general chairman, and two weeks later,
[00:13:06] he visited again as the general chairman of the
[00:13:09] new party. He reiterated his support to the veterans
[00:13:12] and relatives of martyrs here. He had also brought
[00:13:15] it up at the group meeting on Tuesday. The new
[00:13:19] party's first bill was for the relatives of martyrs
[00:13:23] and veterans, and the new party submitted
[00:13:27] the 19th bill to the parliament. Therefore, Özgür Özel
[00:13:30] also said this today: He said, "We will be
[00:13:34] with you until your rights are granted. We will support
[00:13:38] your struggle here until you say
[00:13:41] that you are satisfied with this arrangement."
[00:13:45] Of course, while this struggle is being talked
[00:13:48] about, on the other hand, eyes are on the Parliament.
[00:13:51] The framework law, the veterans, the relatives
[00:14:04] of martyrs are reacting to this. He said, "We will
[00:14:08] not be involved in signing the law." And Dilan
[00:14:11] explained the details about the framework law.
[00:14:14] The details are being discussed in the Parliament
[00:14:18] as of these minutes, but Özgür Özel also
[00:14:21] says this: 6 articles are related to criminal
[00:14:25] law. Actually, a bill is envisaged in the Parliament
[00:14:29] that will come to the commission. It contains that, but the
[00:14:32] new party, Özgür Özel, will file a dissenting
[00:14:36] opinion regarding the 7th article. Therefore, Özgür Özel
[00:14:38] will continue to be in a stance and attitude that considers the sensitivities
[00:14:42] of the relatives of martyrs and veterans. He said,
[00:14:45] "We advocate for the complete silencing of weapons,
[00:14:49] irreversible disarmament, and all regulations to be
[00:14:52] made on a democratic
[00:14:59] basis." He also had different statements, let's watch them
[00:15:02] in the news. "There is a regulation far below expectations.
[00:15:05] Our main approach at this point was that
[00:15:09] if a soldier became a martyr, his family should be
[00:15:11] given a salary equivalent to that of a specialist
[00:15:15] sergeant. In the law, they wrote it as up to
[00:15:18] a minimum wage. Secondly, we were proposing a
[00:15:22] honorary pension for those not considered
[00:15:26] veterans. They put something like a 17,000 additional
[00:15:29] indicator. It's better than nothing, but far below
[00:15:33] expectations. It's important to fix these, but we have
[00:15:37] an opportunity before us, a framework law. Yesterday, the parties
[00:15:41] who signed it proposed it. Our main approach
[00:15:44] is this: We advocate for all regulations
[00:15:48] to be made on a democratic basis so that blood
[00:15:51] does not flow in Turkey again. At the same
[00:15:55] time, we find it insincere
[00:15:59] to create an impression that the problems of veterans
[00:16:03] and martyrs' families are being solved.
[00:16:06] We want everyone to know once again
[00:16:09] that the expectations of the families of veterans
[00:16:12] or early martyrs are not being met
[00:16:16] in any way, and that we will follow
[00:16:20] this matter to the very end.
[00:16:23] We are carefully following all sensitivities.
[00:16:26] We are at the same point today
[00:16:29] as we were on the first day. I have always
[00:16:33] said that we will never be
[00:16:37] involved in things that we cannot
[00:16:39] face the families of martyrs and veterans,
[00:16:42] or look them in the eye." Özgür Özel made
[00:16:45] this statement next
[00:16:50] to the relatives of martyrs and veterans, and then
[00:16:54] he went into a meeting with his legal staff
[00:16:57] regarding this process. They will announce their decisions
[00:17:00] after that meeting, but they emphasize
[00:17:04] that there has been no change in their general approach,
[00:18:07] their political approach. Our starting point for this
[00:18:10] event is the statements of the Minister of Justice
[00:18:14] in recent weeks. Akın Gürlek announced in recent weeks
[00:18:17] that some files would be re-examined in order
[00:18:20] to shed light on unsolved murders, and he announced
[00:18:23] that Uğur Mumcu's file would also be re-examined
[00:18:27] within this scope. Upon the statements of Minister
[00:18:30] of Justice Akın Gürlek, the Mumcu family had
[00:18:34] requested an appointment to meet with Gürlek.
[00:18:37] These appointments took place today. Uğur Mumcu
[00:18:40] was killed in Ankara on January 24, 1993,
[00:18:44] in a bomb attack in front of his house,
[00:18:47] and since then, the family's search for justice has continued,
[00:18:51] but the murder has not yet been solved. Güldal Mumcu,
[00:18:54] Özgür Mumcu and Özge Mumcu Aybars had requested
[00:18:58] an appointment from the Minister of Justice. They had called
[00:19:02] for the murder to be fully revealed. The family,
[00:19:04] who called on the Ministry of Justice and the Ministry
[00:19:08] of Interior, had invited the ministries to take
[00:19:11] all necessary steps to apprehend Oğuz. It was
[00:19:14] expected that these demands would be discussed in this
[00:19:18] meeting. Oğuz Demir, who is the fugitive
[00:19:21] suspect in the Mumcu family's meeting
[00:19:24] with the Minister of Justice, is currently being tried
[00:19:27] in the Umut case. Oğuzdemir is accused by the court
[00:19:30] panel of placing the bomb in Uğur Mumcu's car.
[00:19:33] The last hearing in the case where Oğuzdemir
[00:19:36] is being tried took place on July 14th
[00:19:39] and was postponed to a later date. After
[00:19:42] the postponement, it was being evaluated
[00:19:45] that Oğuz Demir was a fugitive in Australia
[00:19:49] in the last hearings. We can say, Irem, that in their meetings
[00:19:53] with Minister of Justice Akın Gürlek, the Mumcu
[00:19:56] family reiterated their demands for Oğuzdemir
[00:20:00] to be apprehended and brought to Turkey, and
[00:20:03] for the murder to be fully revealed. On the
[00:20:07] other hand, in the morning, Minister of Justice Gürlek
[00:20:11] received the family of former Special Operations
[00:20:15] Department Head Behçet Oktay. Their meetings started
[00:20:18] around 10 AM. In this meeting, it is evaluated
[00:20:21] that the demands for shedding light on Oktay's
[00:20:24] suspicious death were on the agenda. Oktay's
[00:20:28] family had been demanding for years that FETÖ
[00:20:31] had a role in his death and that the file be
[00:20:34] re-examined comprehensively. We can say that Oktay's
[00:20:38] family reiterated these demands in their meetings
[00:20:41] with Gürlek. As we just said, the meetings of the
[00:20:44] Behçet Oktay and Uğur Mumcu families have ended. Lastly,
[00:20:48] Uğur Mumcu's family
[00:21:01] left the Ministry of Justice. The Ministry of Justice
[00:21:04] will make an announcement after these meetings. Thank
[00:21:07] you very much to Eda. She shared the developments
[00:21:10] with Hasan Yancı's images. We also shared the photos
[00:21:13] of that meeting on our screen. Now let's talk. Of course,
[00:21:17] hot breaking news is coming one after another. Tomorrow
[00:21:21] is also an important day. The bill is expected to
[00:21:24] come to the commission. Lawyer
[00:21:35] We saw the bill yesterday, wondering if it would come,
[00:21:38] how it would come, what would be in the draft,
[00:21:42] how many articles it would consist of. It was announced, and there are controversial
[00:21:46] articles and topics. It was also asked how many
[00:21:50] people would sign it. 354 deputies signed the 12
[00:21:53] articles, and it is expected to come to the commission
[00:21:57] tomorrow. So, how do you think it was prepared?
[00:22:01] Which principles were taken as basis? What is
[00:22:04] the spirit of the law? Did you see democratization
[00:22:08] in the content? Yes, first of all, I would like
[00:22:11] to start by saying this: We are at an important stage,
[00:22:14] an important law. Why do I say this? We have crises
[00:22:17] that we cannot overcome as a country, we have some
[00:22:21] weaknesses. This is not just for the history of
[00:22:24] this republic, when we look at the history of the
[00:22:27] Ottoman Empire, we have always experienced periods
[00:22:29] where the security-oriented approach saw fundamental
[00:22:33] rights and freedoms as the main enemy of security
[00:22:36] and constantly retreated. Now, why do I want
[00:22:40] to enter like this? We are the offspring of a
[00:22:43] management approach, a dilapidated mentality,
[00:22:46] that knows its own weaknesses, knows its crises, but
[00:22:50] instead of solving them, does what it knows.
[00:22:53] We must accept this. And this law, for the
[00:22:57] first time, comes as a step towards solving
[00:23:01] its own weaknesses. We must see it this way.
[00:23:04] From this perspective, of course, it brings
[00:23:07] hope and excitement. But hope, of course,
[00:23:11] depends on certain conditions. Will these conditions
[00:23:20] at eliminating these known weaknesses? There
[00:23:23] are some conditions for this. We must set this aside.
[00:23:27] When we look at the purpose and scope of the law,
[00:23:30] it starts by saying, "PKK and KCK terrorist
[00:23:33] organization and every affiliated formation
[00:23:36] will cease to exist." It determines a roadmap
[00:23:40] in this way and the actions to be taken at this
[00:23:44] stage. Technically, of course, it has problems.
[00:23:47] I am not saying anything against that. The fact
[00:23:51] that it was prepared by the security bureaucracy
[00:23:55] and brought to this point, and that it was left
[00:23:57] without discussion and consensus until the
[00:24:01] last moment, these can all be discussed. But
[00:24:05] on the other hand, when we look at it,
[00:24:08] it is important to solve this problem, which has
[00:24:11] caused us great pain, serious losses, and
[00:24:14] has been a shackle on our future, as we
[00:24:18] have sometimes been in regional crises. In other
[00:24:22] words, if terror is to end, should we say,
[00:24:25] "PKK should not lay down arms, PKK should
[00:24:29] not surrender"? Nobody wants this. Every positive,
[00:24:32] every serious step towards ending terror,
[00:24:36] I say serious step, contains hope and is
[00:24:39] welcome. We need to underline this. From
[00:24:42] this perspective, of course, there is also
[00:24:45] a need for social support. And for social support,
[00:24:48] there is a need for it to be equipped with a balance
[00:24:52] of trust and freedom. From this perspective,
[00:24:55] it is possible to criticize the law legally, technically.
[00:24:58] Problems regarding this can be resolved in the commission.
[00:25:02] As you said earlier, there are objection articles,
[00:25:06] but before that, let's clearly state who is
[00:25:09] covered by the law. The law mentions June
[00:25:13] 1, 2005. How can we explain this
[00:25:15] to our viewers? The Turkish Penal Code
[00:25:18] was changed on June 1, 2005. Aggravated life imprisonment
[00:25:21] and life imprisonment offenses before June 1, 2005
[00:25:25] were subject to different regulations. Therefore,
[00:25:27] those who committed aggravated life imprisonment and
[00:25:31] life imprisonment offenses before June 1, 2005,
[00:25:34] and those who committed intentional murder offenses,
[00:25:38] regardless of whether it was before or after
[00:25:41] this date, are excluded from the scope of this law.
[00:25:45] This is definite, let's put it aside.
[00:25:48] So, if there are those who were involved
[00:25:52] in a murder offense after June 1, 2005,
[00:25:55] they will not be able to benefit from this law.
[00:25:59] These are the first ones. Here, of course,
[00:26:02] it can be said that June 1, 2005,
[00:26:06] may have been considered to exclude Öcalan
[00:26:09] from the scope. There may be a violation
[00:26:12] of the principle of equality. We hear these from legal
[00:26:15] circles. Of course, these will be evaluated
[00:26:19] in the commission, and then the Constitutional
[00:26:21] Court will definitely review it. We have
[00:26:25] also seen annulment decisions due to
[00:26:28] violation of the principle of equality or due
[00:26:31] to being in the nature will be seen,
[00:26:34] after this is reported and decided upon by the National Security Council,
[00:26:38] then the process will begin. There are
[00:26:41] some distinctions here: 5 years for those
[00:26:45] under 15 years, and a 10-year probation period for those over 15
[00:26:49] years. Depending on the situation, the local
[00:26:52] court, the Supreme Court, or if it's on appeal, a quick decision
[00:26:56] is aimed for, if the conditions are met,
[00:26:59] these are important, of course, the contested issue.
[00:27:03] the relevant article you received from Özgür Özyer just now
[00:27:06] indicates that some disqualifications can be lifted
[00:27:10] during the process, the council that will request these,
[00:27:13] a special council that will be formed under the Vice Presidency,
[00:27:16] will also make decisions at this point. These are subject to objections,
[00:27:20] these are the debated aspects, Ms. Iram, but
[00:27:23] when we look at it comprehensively,
[00:27:26] we see that it's just about security, about ending
[00:27:29] terrorism.
[00:27:32] "Is this sufficient for the constitution? We cannot accept it as sufficient,
[00:27:36] we must state this. Look, the AKP's
[00:27:39] 2001 program is very clear. The AKP
[00:27:42] itself said how this came about,
[00:27:45] by following this path, why did terrorism emerge?
[00:27:48] Terrorism and oppression mutually feed each other,
[00:27:52] said the AKP. Any approach that forgets that terrorism
[00:27:55] is a result will only aim to produce a solution through oppression,
[00:27:59] whereas this only strengthens terrorism. The way to end terrorism
[00:28:02] is the AKP's program: a state approach
[00:28:05] that respects fundamental rights and freedoms, economic
[00:28:08] development, and security, taking them as integral parts. So,
[00:28:12] did we see this? No, it had declared terrorism as a result,
[00:28:15] it started this way, but at this point,
[00:28:19] we saw that laws, even the constitution,
[00:28:22] became unenforceable. And the spiritual losses we heard from
[00:28:26] Erdoğan's mouth, the heavy trials we faced,
[00:28:29] the pain, the children of people.
[00:28:34] being lost, being killed, unsolved murders, all of this was related to this problem.
[00:28:38] The children who went to the mountains are also our children, meaning the mothers
[00:28:42] of martyrs are also our mothers. The mothers who sent their children to the mountains,
[00:28:45] who remained behind with tears in their eyes, are also our mothers. We, as a society,
[00:28:49] could not face our pains mutually,
[00:28:52] we couldn't empathize. These weaknesses,
[00:28:55] these management weaknesses, we, as a society, came out of them
[00:28:58] polarized, blaming each other. Yes.
[00:29:02] Did we find a solution? No, we lost our future,
[00:29:05] we lost our children, but for example, there's also the financial aspect.
[00:29:09] The figure we heard from the President is 2.3 trillion
[00:29:12] dollars. How many years of our
[00:29:15] national income is that? So, in this sense,
[00:29:18] I see it as an important
[00:29:26] amount of time, so of course, we will talk about this issue much more. Figen Çalık and
[00:29:29] Fethi Yıldız were also asked, friend.
[00:29:47] It had been reiterated many times before, actually, I'm saying it again, Öcalan
[00:29:51] should have hope, and Demirtaş should return home. He used
[00:29:54] these expressions. When Fethi Yıldız was asked one more time, what did he say?
[00:29:57] Let's listen and then continue.
[00:29:59] I wanted.
[00:30:02] Sir, regarding the issue of Demirtaş returning
[00:30:05] home, as indicated by Devlet Bey,
[00:30:09] should we expect a development in the implementation of the ECtHR
[00:30:12] and Constitutional Court decisions in the coming period? The report
[00:30:15] already includes the compliance with
[00:30:18] the Constitutional Court and ECtHR decisions.
[00:30:22] Fethi Yıldız, yesterday, after Abdullah Güler's statement, just as he was finishing,
[00:30:25] Abdullah Güler took the last word and referred to the Political Parties
[00:30:29] Law and the Election Law. He pointed to
[00:30:32] the Enforcement Law and said that changes would definitely
[00:30:36] be made in the enforcement law as well. So, will new legal steps follow
[00:30:39] after this? Can we deduce this, can we understand this?
[00:30:43] Ms. Iram, this is a necessity, as I said
[00:30:47] earlier, I hope this hope is now a breaking
[00:30:51] development, I'm sorry to interrupt. Güldal Mumcu,
[00:30:54] Uğur Mumcu's wife, spoke to Halk TV. She said
[00:30:57] that no matter who the hitmen are, they will be revealed. This is one
[00:31:01] of today's important headlines. It was one of the hot meetings.
[00:31:05] Approximately 1-2 hours ago
[00:31:08] there was a meeting, at 11:30 there was a meeting, we want the hitmen
[00:31:12] and instigators to be revealed. He had a meeting.
[00:31:16] Today, he
[00:31:22] says, the meeting was positive, says Güldal Mumcu.
[00:31:26] We conveyed our demand for the hitmen and
[00:31:29] instigators to be revealed, no matter who they are.
[00:31:32] The Minister of Justice also said that no matter who is behind the hitmen,
[00:31:36] no matter what their connections are, we will do our best
[00:31:39] to reveal them. Both the Minister and
[00:31:43] those assigned to this task. We found it positive, I hope
[00:31:46] that after 33 years, we will fully understand all the connections
[00:31:50] and instigators of this crime.
[00:31:53] These were the statements made by
[00:31:56] Uğur Mumcu's wife, Güldal Mumcu,
[00:32:00] exclusively to Halk TV. She conveyed that the meeting
[00:32:03] went positively, and they found the team to be very
[00:32:06] positive. She said, "I hope
[00:32:09] after 33 years, we learn all the connections
[00:32:13] of the murder." Please, go ahead. I think
[00:32:17] you'd also like to share your comments on this
[00:32:19] breaking development. Yes, it's very important. Of course,
[00:32:23] in a state of law, such statements as "wherever it leads,"
[00:32:27] from the Minister of Justice, are a good development.
[00:32:30] I'm not saying anything, but as I said when we started the program,
[00:32:34] we have weaknesses. The reasons and
[00:32:37] consequences of our weaknesses are very well known,
[00:32:41] but when it comes to solving them, another major deficiency, a management
[00:32:45] deficiency, emerges. Now, I hope,
[00:32:48] I hope, wherever it leads, all those
[00:32:51] leads will be found. Because if a murder
[00:32:55] remains unsolved, this is now generally accepted, its
[00:32:58] trail, unfortunately, is lost
[00:33:01] in deep labyrinths, meaning it's being protected.
[00:33:05] If this is to be a starting point, then of course,
[00:33:07] we support it. With the hope that the real leads will be found.
[00:33:11] Now, if we move on to the other part, I said that this process
[00:33:15] is an important stage and that it has opened a door,
[00:33:17] creating hope and excitement. We also said that this is subject
[00:33:21] to certain conditions. The process of democratization
[00:33:25] will only be meaningful and yield results if it is inevitable.
[00:33:28] Now, the questions we need to ask here are, these processes that will nourish
[00:33:32] this hope will obviously take time, Ms. Iram. They are not processes that will happen
[00:33:36] just by saying so. For example, laying down arms, security
[00:33:39] bureaucracy work, national security decisions, etc. But
[00:33:42] for social trust and support, for example, we would like
[00:33:46] to see an end to the trustee system,
[00:33:49] right? I mean, what prevents Ahmet from going home?
[00:33:52] What is the obstacle? It's not enough to just talk,
[00:33:56] action is needed. So, ECtHR decisions,
[00:33:59] implementation of the constitution, Selahattin Demirtaş,
[00:34:02] Figen Yüksekdağ, these are other Kobane or
[00:34:06] other ECtHR decisions. Why are people
[00:34:09] in prison? Selahattin Demirtaş should not
[00:34:12] remain for even a minute. This was also
[00:34:15] asked, these ECtHR decisions, he said these reports
[00:34:18] exist. So, yes, there is a constitution,
[00:34:22] my objection is, is it the constitution or the TBB report?
[00:34:26] I mean, the constitution or the signatures
[00:34:29] of the MPs? Now, according to our constitution,
[00:34:31] we need to see releases. This is not with this law,
[00:34:35] there are people who have obtained release conditions before this law
[00:34:38] with high court decisions. What do these provide?
[00:34:42] These strengthen this process.
[00:34:45] Ah, truly, if there is a desire to solve this process,
[00:34:48] to solve this problem, the belief spreads to society
[00:34:51] and support increases. This increase in support
[00:34:54] is very important. What happens if you call the law
[00:34:58] national solidarity, security, integration? Solidarity, security, and
[00:35:01] integration must be felt here, they must be felt
[00:35:04] among people. I assume Fethi Yıldız evaluates
[00:35:07] the right to hope in that direction.
[00:35:10] The right to hope is also an ECtHR decision.
[00:35:14] But I emphasize again, the right to hope
[00:35:18] does not contain a provision
[00:35:20] for Öcalan's release. The right to hope
[00:35:24] is about evaluating the execution process
[00:35:27] and releasing him if the conditions are met.
[00:35:30] That is, the understanding that a person will serve
[00:35:34] a sentence throughout their life
[00:35:37] is an understanding that does not exist in any
[00:35:40] penal practice or theory in the world. This is contrary to human rights,
[00:35:44] it can reach that point, but
[00:35:47] all of these must be filled with a law
[00:35:50] that does not harm the understanding of equality,
[00:35:53] that does not harm the feelings of our martyr families.
[00:35:57] It's not about political perceptions and political plans, but truly,
[00:36:01] if a problem has been addressed, it should be solved by looking
[00:36:04] at the causes of that problem and taking measures
[00:36:07] to prevent those causes from recurring in that structure.
[00:36:11] In that sense, hope
[00:36:15] will spread
[00:36:20] in society. If there's no political calculation
[00:36:24] here, no engineering, if there's sincerity
[00:36:27] in solving a problem that burns us, exhausts us,
[00:36:30] immobilizes us, as the people of this country,
[00:36:34] everyone will be happy. Which mother
[00:36:38] would want to lose another child as a martyr? Do you understand
[00:36:42] what I mean? We will embrace the past pains,
[00:36:45] yes, it's very difficult, I understand that, but I say empathy,
[00:36:49] I say confrontation. Look, confrontation and empathy,
[00:36:52] this is also the duty of politics, to prepare society for this.
[00:36:56] "Leaving the past behind and opening a new chapter
[00:36:59] with the lessons we've learned from our pains,
[00:37:02] with our pains, is an important step.
[00:37:06] So, in this sense, as I say again,
[00:37:09] it nurtures hope, but
[00:37:12] our expectation is that it strengthens hope
[00:37:15] and that democratic developments progress smoothly.
[00:37:19] The people of this country deserve this. Well, Mr.
[00:37:22] Çalıkuşu, of course there are many questions to ask, but we will talk about this
[00:37:26] framework much more. After passing through the committee,
[00:37:29] there are still stages before it comes to the General Assembly.
[00:37:32] We will talk about it sequentially as the stages come, but finally, I would like to ask you
[00:37:36] this: my time is running out. There was also a debate about
[00:37:39] Article 10. What is this Article 10?
[00:37:42] What does it contain in the announced bill?
[00:37:46] The Good Party has criticisms.
[00:37:49] Müsavat Dervişoğlu said, "We are at the same point from the beginning." He used
[00:37:53] the expressions, "We will explain the articles one by one, list
[00:37:56] our criticisms, and say no." Was there a similar
[00:37:59] situation regarding this Article 10 in the previous process, for example,
[00:38:03] during the era of Süreyya Önder? Of course
[00:38:06] there was law number 6551, but it was a law
[00:38:10] specifically for those who took part in this process, mostly for public officials.
[00:38:13] It didn't find much applicability.
[00:38:17] Now, a weakness had also emerged there. They made such a regulation
[00:38:21] to remedy that weakness. Now they say about this, they know
[00:38:24] they committed crimes, so they want to bring such a shield
[00:38:28] of protection. Article 10 brings
[00:38:32] a shield of protection for those who took part in this process,
[00:38:36] such as committee members or other public officials. This protection
[00:38:39] applies in terms of criminal, administrative, legal,
[00:38:42] financial, etc. Is this shield of protection necessary?
[00:38:46] It's not because a crime was committed,
[00:38:50] they are undoubtedly engaged in legal activities. Of course it's necessary. It's necessary
[00:38:54] in this way: look, governments change, mentalities differ.
[00:38:57] As a result, while people are engaged in this activity,
[00:39:00] but I repeat, not only within the parentheses
[00:39:04] of terrorism and security, we also expect them to sign
[00:39:08] regulations that will bring democratization. They are expected
[00:39:11] to act with ease so that there are no problems
[00:39:15] tomorrow or the next day. Well, is it a measure against
[00:39:19] what the party mentioned, against prescription, in quotation marks,
[00:39:22] I ask
[00:39:25] this. No, that's not it. He says
[00:39:29] prescription should not apply, it's not such a measure.
[00:39:32] It's about these activities being carried out without
[00:39:35] feeling pressure, without hesitation. But generally,
[00:39:39] its purpose and spirit are directed towards this.
[00:39:42] In many cases, this article is included in
[00:39:46] the obligations and activities undertaken by those who solve
[00:39:50] such problems. There's no "converso" but
[00:39:54] there's no need to attach so much meaning to it. I
[00:39:57] wish I didn't have to think about it, but this is a law, tomorrow
[00:40:01] they might pass another law and revoke this one. Indeed,
[00:40:05] we saw the same with Kenan Evren. So, I want to say that it's unnecessary
[00:40:08] to attach such great importance and meaning to this,
[00:40:12] as if it's a huge impasse presented by Müsavat Dervişoğlu,
[00:40:15] as if a great crime is being committed and those who commit this crime
[00:40:19] are being protected, that they won't be prosecuted, etc.
[00:40:22] It doesn't carry such a meaning. It's just about carrying
[00:40:25] out these actions without
[00:40:42] There are hot topics. Let's turn our cameras to Manisa. The New Party's
[00:40:45] Manisa provincial chairman, İlksen Özalper, has been detained.
[00:40:49] The reaction to this development
[00:40:51] was not delayed.
[00:40:57] there's an arrest within the scope of the bribery investigation
[00:41:01] that was handed over to the Chief Public Prosecutor's Office. Within the scope of the same investigation,
[00:41:04] Manisa Metropolitan Municipality Mayor's consultant Demirhan Gözaçan, his driver
[00:41:08] Anıl Demir, and Şehzadeler Aş General Manager Cemyüzer were also
[00:41:11] arrested. A search was conducted at Özalper's house in Manisa.
[00:41:14] We know that after his procedures at the police station, he was transferred to Ankara.
[00:41:17] The investigation is reported to have been carried out
[00:41:21] based on the statements made by Uşak Mayor Özkan Yalım, who was suspended from duty,
[00:41:24] within the scope of effective repentance provisions, MASAK reports, and
[00:41:28] HTS records. New Party Group
[00:41:31] Deputy Chairman Murat Emir reacted to the development. Murat
[00:41:34] Emir made a statement on his social media account. He said, "The detention
[00:41:38] of our Manisa Provincial Chairman is not a legal step,
[00:41:41] it is a continuation of an organized political revenge project instructed
[00:41:45] by the palace." Emir also used the expressions, "You will not
[00:41:48] be able to finish civil politics with your fabricated
[00:41:52] files, your detentions, and your staged investigations."
[00:41:55] And Menderes Municipality,
[00:42:01] an operation was also carried out against
[00:42:05] Menderes Municipality. Fugitive Vice Mayor Rüzgar Sönmez
[00:42:08] was also detained.
[00:42:19] In the Menderes Municipality operation, fugitive Vice Mayor
[00:42:22] Rüzgar Sönmez was also detained.
[00:42:25] Ilkay Çiçek, the detained mayor's lawyer, made a statement
[00:42:28] to reporters. He said that the WhatsApp messages attributed
[00:42:32] to Çiçek in the public were fake. In Izmir,
[00:42:35] an operation was carried out against another CHP municipality
[00:42:37] the day before.
[00:42:40] It was Menderes Municipality. In the investigation where bribery
[00:42:43] charges were brought, many people, including Mayor İlkay Çiçek,
[00:42:46] were detained. A development also occurred regarding
[00:42:50] fugitive Vice Mayor Rüzgar Sönmez. Sönmez was also detained
[00:42:53] in a house in Gaziemir.
[00:42:56] Meanwhile, while the families of the detained individuals continued
[00:43:00] their wait in front of the Provincial Gendarmerie Command, an announcement came from Mayor Çiçek's
[00:43:04] lawyer, Atalay Aksay. Aksay stated
[00:43:07] that there was a confidentiality order in the investigation. He stated that the WhatsApp
[00:43:11] messages alleged to belong to her were fake.
[00:43:14] We were lynched by the public because of
[00:43:17] fake messages created by a single person.
[00:43:21] Regarding this issue, on June 12, 2026,
[00:43:24] following a blackmail message received by my client from a phone
[00:43:27] belonging to a foreign country, a criminal complaint was filed
[00:43:31] with the Izmir Chief Public Prosecutor's Office. While the investigation continued,
[00:43:35] after the detention process, an impression was created
[00:43:39] as if we were detained solely for these messages,
[00:43:43] as if these messages were the essence of the investigation.
[00:43:46] My client has not even given a statement yet. İlkay Çiçek's wife, Melek
[00:43:50] Çiçek, also spoke to reporters, saying she has endless trust in her husband.
[00:43:54] I want an end to the false and misleading news prepared
[00:43:57] with artificial intelligence on social media. I want
[00:44:00] justice to be served, and I have endless trust in my husband.
[00:44:04] New Party Izmir MP Murat Bakan, whose name was mentioned in the messages
[00:44:07] attributed to Çiçek, also announced that he had filed a criminal
[00:44:10] complaint with the prosecutor's office. If these messages are not real,
[00:44:14] as claimed, then it must be revealed who or what parties,
[00:44:18] with what purpose and at whose instruction, distributed this digital content.
[00:44:21] If these messages are real, I demand that the necessary actions
[00:44:25] be taken regarding the parties to the correspondence. I will also
[00:44:28] initiate legal proceedings against anyone who spread these messages
[00:44:32] as real, created a perception around them, and deliberately targeted the public
[00:44:35] with misleading information.
[00:44:38] New Party Izmir MP. Murat Bakan made a post
[00:44:41] stating, "If these messages are real,
[00:44:44] I demand that the necessary actions be taken regarding the parties
[00:44:47] to the correspondence." He also said, "During this period,
[00:44:50] I have not made any demands to him on any issue, the only exception
[00:44:54] is the motorized wheelchair I requested for a disabled citizen living
[00:44:58] in Çileme village. My interaction in politics is limited
[00:45:01] to this, and I am proud of it. I am not the only person
[00:45:04] whose name is mentioned in this content; other names have also applied
[00:45:08] to the prosecutor's office for the same
[00:45:10] content. It has been determined that the content was spread
[00:45:14] through an overseas account. This is not a single rumor,
[00:45:18] there is an organized perception operation with a specific political
[00:45:21] goal," he said, and he pointed to
[00:45:24] the perception operation, New Party Izmir MP
[00:45:28] Murat Bakan. Ceren Ural is with our cameraman
[00:45:31] Mehmet Ali Şener, at the heart of the market, in the Grand Bazaar.
[00:45:34] Gold, a safe haven, is at its highest level
[00:45:38] in the last 7 weeks. "Has the critical threshold been crossed
[00:45:41] or not? What happened? What level has gold
[00:45:45] reached? What is the latest situation in the markets? The
[00:45:49] diplomatic wind between the United States and Iran seems to be playing
[00:45:52] with gold's fire, Ceren.
[00:45:54] Ceren.
[00:45:59] Yes, exactly as you reported, Irem Sansak, expectations that an agreement
[00:46:03] could be reached between the US and Iran also stirred the market.
[00:46:07] While Brent crude continued to fall,
[00:46:10] gold began to rise and reached its highest level
[00:46:13] in 7 weeks. We are in the Grand Bazaar
[00:46:16] with Mehmet Ali Şener. Let's quickly give the prices.
[00:46:20] Foreign exchange is among the most curious. The dollar's buying price is currently
[00:46:24] 47.57 kuruş, and its selling price
[00:46:26] is 47.79 kuruş. The euro's buying price
[00:46:29] is 54 lira 65 kuruş, and its selling price
[00:46:33] is trading at 55 lira 5 kuruş. Yesterday, the euro was around
[00:46:36] 54.90, and we were saying it was knocking on 55, and today.
[00:46:52] trading, 4200 dollars was a very critical level and
[00:46:56] the threshold has been crossed, experts say we will see gold even higher
[00:46:59] now. So, if you came to the Grand Bazaar
[00:47:03] and wanted to buy gold, what is its current trading price?
[00:47:07] Let's tell you that too. The current buying price of gram gold
[00:47:09] is 6,465 lira, and its selling price
[00:47:12] is trading at 6,542 lira. So, when you come to buy,
[00:47:15] it trades at the selling price, and the current market value
[00:47:19] of gram gold is 6,541 lira.
[00:47:22] Quarter gold is sold at 10,548 lira,
[00:47:26] half gold at 21,37 lira, full gold
[00:47:29] at 41,943 lira, and Ata
[00:47:32] is trading at 43,183 lira. Gram gold
[00:47:35] was at 6,250 lira yesterday, and
[00:47:38] today we see an increase of almost 300 lira, and
[00:47:41] it's currently sold at 6,543 lira,
[00:47:45] and it's at its highest level in 7 weeks. Not just
[00:47:49] gold. Let's also show silver, let Mehmet Ali
[00:47:51] Şener show it. There's also a 4%
[00:47:55] gain here, and silver has also reached its highest level
[00:47:58] since July 7. Due to these events,
[00:48:01] precious metals are very valuable right now.
[00:48:05] Expectations are that they will rise even more. If gold ounce
[00:48:08] goes above this level, it's currently trading
[00:48:11] at 4,270 dollars. On Monday,
[00:48:14] we could see quarter, sorry, gram
[00:48:17] gold at 6,800 lira. There's also
[00:48:21] a slow wait for the Euro, and expectations are that it will rise again.
[00:48:25] According to the experts we spoke to, the year-end expectation
[00:48:28] is that it could go up to 60 lira. It's currently
[00:48:32] at 55 lira, and we saw a new peak. We are in the Grand
[00:48:35] Bazaar with Mehmet Ali Şener, and we will continue to convey
[00:48:39] new developments as they happen, and I'll hand
[00:48:41] the floor back to you.
[00:48:48] Ceren Ural shared with Mehmet Ali Şener's visuals
[00:48:51] the pulse of the markets and the latest situation
[00:48:54] of gold. And journalist Ertuğrul Özkök was under investigation
[00:48:58] for insulting the President due to his words about
[00:49:01] President Erdoğan. In his column on August 3rd,
[00:49:05] he had clarified the statements that led
[00:49:07] to the investigation. Hot images are on our screens right now.
[00:49:11] Demirören News Agency's images. Journalist Ertuğrul Özkök
[00:49:14] came to the courthouse and made a brief statement
[00:49:17] when he arrived at the courthouse. Can we hear it, friends?
[00:49:21] muyuz arkadaşlar?
[00:49:25] Yes, he also has a short statement that we will share
[00:49:29] with you in the coming minutes. The images captured by the cameras
[00:49:32] as he arrived at the courthouse are on our screens. And
[00:49:36] then he said
[00:49:39] that he had also spoken to Bahar Feyzan
[00:49:42] after this investigation, and that he would return
[00:49:45] from abroad on Tuesday, August 4th. Today, as of
[00:49:49] August 6th,
[00:49:52] as of 26th, he arrived
[00:49:55] at the courthouse, and we will share the developments with you
[00:49:59] now.
[00:50:02] Who is the star player? Mohamed Salah has arrived.
[00:50:05] And of course, Trabzon is a football city.
[00:50:09] What happens if a star player
[00:50:12] comes to Trabzon, the football city?
[01:00:17] an hemen ulaşın.
[01:00:24] Haber masasında sıcak gelişmeleri paylaşmayı sürdürüyoruz, ikinci saat
[01:00:28] at the news desk. We are in the second
[01:00:31] The first assessment came from the Dem Party front
[01:00:34] bütünleşmenin güçlendirilmesi kanun teklifi için Dem
[01:00:38] that came to the agenda of the Grand National Assembly of Turkey.
[01:00:41] Who was it from? It came from Party Spokesperson Ayşe Güldoğan.
[01:00:44] "For the first time, our party
[01:00:47] she said.
[01:00:50] easily within
[01:00:53] defa bir kanun teklifine imza atıyoruz. Den
[01:00:57] Party is signing
[01:01:00] time. This is not an ordinary, common
[01:01:04] signature. It is a signature
[01:01:07] This signature and this bill, from our party's
[01:01:10] perspective, is the first
[01:01:14] hukuk ve demokratik siyaset zeminine.
[01:01:17] to the legal and democratic political
[01:01:20] ground. The first door
[01:01:24] construction process
[01:01:27] aralandı.
[01:01:30] After conflicts spanning decades,
[01:01:33] it is inevitable that the path to peace
[01:01:37] This
[01:01:40] regulation is not a final
[01:01:43] düzenleme değil, bir başlangıç. tüm bunlar için
[01:01:47] A very critical door has been opened
[01:01:51] and open it wide
[01:01:54] with a common struggle. Actually, it's late,
[01:01:58] but even if it's late, this new beginning
[01:02:02] is very important. The proposal opens a path,
[01:02:05] to the country.
[01:02:09] Transitioning from armed conflict to democratic
[01:02:12] is, for the first
[01:02:15] time, bound to a detailed and predictable
[01:02:18] legal procedure. Of course, returning to the country
[01:02:21] is not just crossing
[01:02:25] Of course, this also has its requirements. Mr. Öcalan
[01:02:29] should be able to contribute
[01:02:33] and uninterruptedly from his essential
[01:02:36] in its coordination,
[01:02:39] düzenlenmeli, sürecin ivme kazanması ve
[01:02:43] To gain momentum and eliminate risks,
[01:02:46] I would like to remind
[01:02:49] once again that this is a very
[01:02:53] The weapons are silent,
[01:02:56] fingers have been
[01:03:00] Now it's time
[01:03:02] to mature peace and the conditions
[01:03:06] for peace
[01:03:06] together.
[01:03:11] There is a breaking
[01:03:14] The first meeting after the framework law was expected. The last meeting
[01:03:18] between President Erdoğan and Devlet Bahçeli
[01:03:21] was on April 30th. That meeting has restarted.
[01:03:24] We call it the first contact after 3 months. It's an important contact,
[01:03:28] we'll get the details. We have Halk TV
[01:03:31] reporter Dilan Altürk
[01:03:35] are the details? İrem, yes, it was actually known that it would be held
[01:03:38] at 2 PM, and the meeting between Bahçeli and Erdoğan
[01:03:42] started minutes ago. That meeting was to be in Beştepe
[01:03:45] and it started minutes ago. Of course, the framework
[01:03:49] law coming to the parliamentary agenda is on the agenda.
[01:03:52] One of the first signatories was MHP leader Devlet
[01:03:55] Bahçeli, and yesterday at the NSC meeting, Erdoğan
[01:04:00] thanked Bahçeli, and today.
[01:04:03] In the meeting between the two,
[01:04:06] we can state that explanations will be made in that meeting
[01:04:08] regarding how this bill will come to the parliamentary
[01:04:12] agenda, that is, will come to the commission tomorrow.
[01:04:15] Of course, the two names had met
[01:04:19] in April and January before. This is the third meeting of the year.
[01:04:22] In other meetings, the process law
[01:04:25] was also on the agenda, but of course, this time the process
[01:04:29] evolved into a different dimension, because a draft
[01:04:32] now exists and is expected to be discussed in the Justice
[01:04:36] Committee after 3 PM. And the meeting
[01:04:40] that Bahçeli, one of the first signatories
[01:04:43] and the initiator of the process, will have with Erdoğan today
[01:04:46] will be critical. Immediately after that meeting, Erdoğan
[01:04:50] will attend another meeting, he will chair the NSC
[01:04:53] meeting, and of course, we expect the reports
[01:04:56] from the Ministers, the Minister of National Defense,
[01:05:00] Interior and Foreign Affairs, and MIT to be presented
[01:05:03] to Erdoğan at the meeting. And of course,
[01:05:07] the process law is expected to be
[01:05:11] on the agenda for this meeting as well. What will Bahçeli's stance be?
[01:05:14] Because when it comes to the General Assembly stage,
[01:05:18] Bahçeli is also expected to be present at the General Assembly
[01:05:22] and make a statement on that day. We expect him to make
[01:05:26] a statement regarding the stage the process has reached
[01:05:30] at the General Assembly stage, which he started about
[01:05:33] two years ago at the group meeting. The meetings between Bahçeli
[01:05:37] and Erdoğan are closed to the press and no
[01:05:39] statement is made afterwards, neither written nor visual,
[01:05:43] but of course, we can state that the process
[01:05:46] law is on their agenda.
[01:05:48] The meeting between the two names
[01:05:52] usually lasts 40-45
[01:05:56] this time we expect Erdoğan to thank
[01:06:00] Bahçeli for the process, as he stated at the NSC meeting
[01:06:03] yesterday. At the same time, the final intentions regarding
[01:06:07] this law will be stated between the two, because
[01:06:11] the law is also approaching the last week, the last days
[01:06:14] of the parliament. Before it closes,
[01:06:17] it will be clear what kind of joint
[01:06:21] statement the Cumhur İttifak, which closely follows
[01:06:25] afterwards.
[01:06:28] The details regarding this process will also
[01:06:32] be on the agenda at the NSC meeting, let's say. Now,
[01:06:35] the General Assembly has started in the parliament. If
[01:06:38] the child law passes the General Assembly today,
[01:06:41] then if the draft
[01:06:45] of the process passes the Justice Committee tomorrow,
[01:06:49] the draft is expected to come to the General Assembly on Sunday,
[01:06:52] let's say, and let's give the floor back to you. Thank
[01:06:56] you. Halk Television reporter Dilan Altürk shared
[01:06:59] with a phone connection. The Erdoğan-Bahçeli meeting started
[01:07:03] at 2 PM. The last time the parties met was on April 30th.
[01:07:06] It was a meeting that lasted about 50 minutes at 5:30 PM.
[01:07:09] Of course, what's on the agenda today
[01:07:12] is the framework law. Now, speaking
[01:07:16] of the framework law, it will be discussed
[01:07:19] in the Justice Committee tomorrow, there is such an expectation.
[01:07:23] The statement regarding the content of the draft, how many
[01:07:26] articles it consists of, what these articles are,
[01:07:30] what subheadings are in the details, came from Abdullah Güler. Fetih Yıldız also contributed
[01:07:34] to Abdullah Güler's statements from time to time. Let's all watch what was said.
[01:07:37] The purpose of this law is the PKK/KCK terrorist
[01:07:39] organization and any formations connected
[01:07:43] to it. The bill prepared for the process
[01:07:47] was submitted to the parliament following the determination of its factual existence
[01:07:50] by security institutions and the publication of the National Security Council's
[01:07:53] decision in the Official Gazette. Discussions on the proposal,
[01:07:57] named "Strengthening National Solidarity and Social Integration,"
[01:08:00] will begin in the Justice Committee on Friday.
[01:08:04] Our Justice Committee Chairman will make
[01:08:07] the necessary invitations for the committee meeting
[01:08:10] on Friday. The draft law consists of 12 articles.
[01:08:14] Members of the organization are to lay down their weapons
[01:08:18] as soon as possible, the organization is to disband
[01:08:21] itself and be completely dismantled, and members of the organization
[01:08:24] are to be integrated into society. Those who received aggravated
[01:08:28] life sentences before June 2005 or committed
[01:08:31] crimes that would necessitate aggravated life sentences
[01:08:34] will be excluded from the scope of the law.
[01:08:38] For those who committed murder, intentional
[01:08:40] murder, and received life or aggravated
[01:08:44] life imprisonment sentences before 2005 and whose sentences
[01:08:47] are being executed, with the exception of those,
[01:08:51] there will be a 5-year deferment for those
[01:08:54] who received sentences for membership, management,
[01:08:57] aid, harboring, or propaganda within
[01:09:01] a 15-year period, and a 10-year monitoring
[01:09:05] period for those who received sentences
[01:09:07] of life or aggravated life imprisonment
[01:09:11] for over 15 years.
[01:09:17] In the processes that follow, academic visits and journalist
[01:09:21] visits
[01:09:23] to İmralı can be carried
[01:09:29] out quite
[01:09:32] administrative regulations regarding explanations on this
[01:09:36] matter, but there is no need for a legal regulation
[01:09:40] or a status for this, friends. The execution of sentences
[01:09:43] for those who receive 15 years or more
[01:09:46] of imprisonment will be deferred for 5 years,
[01:09:50] and the execution of sentences for those who receive
[01:09:53] or aggravated life
[01:09:56] imprisonment for more than 15 years will be deferred for 10 years.
[01:10:00] If any crime is committed during
[01:10:03] the deferment period, the said decision will be revoked, and the investigation
[01:10:06] and prosecution will continue. I wish it to be auspicious.
[01:10:10] And two committees will follow
[01:10:16] this entire process. We are forming a committee
[01:10:19] consisting of the Presidency of our Vice President,
[01:10:22] the Ministry of Interior, Justice, Foreign Affairs,
[01:10:25] the Ministry of National Defense, and the Secretary General
[01:10:29] of the National Security Council. This committee will follow the process
[01:10:32] by holding periodic meetings and obtaining
[01:10:36] all kinds of information and documents from other public
[01:10:39] institutions and organizations. The entry into force of the bill,
[01:10:43] which is expected to come to the General Assembly
[01:10:46] on Sunday, will depend on the determination
[01:10:50] and confirmation of the National Security Council.
[01:10:54] As soon as the entire mechanism
[01:10:54] with the confirmation
[01:10:58] mechanism is published in the Official Gazette as a National
[01:11:01] Security Council decision, a 6-month application
[01:11:05] period begins, and applications
[01:11:08] will begin at the relevant chief public prosecutor's
[01:11:12] offices. Özgür Özel made
[01:11:16] important statements at his party's group meeting and also spoke
[01:11:19] about a crisis, reminding of the political
[01:11:22] ethics law, the political morality law.
[01:11:26] Year 2016, there is the political
[01:11:29] ethics, political morality law that came to the agenda
[01:11:32] during the EU visa exemption process. At that time,
[01:11:36] Prime Minister Davutoğlu wanted to implement
[01:11:40] a regulation related to transparency and asset
[01:11:43] declarations. Özgür Özel states that they supported
[01:11:45] it, reminding of the Greko
[01:11:49] criteria. But Özgür Özel says that
[01:11:52] at that time, just as this regulation was about to be implemented,
[01:11:56] while we were supporting it, President Erdoğan called Davutoğlu
[01:12:00] and prevented the law by saying, "If this law passes,
[01:12:03] we won't be able to find provincial
[01:12:07] or district chairs."
[01:12:10] In 2016, by the then Prime Minister,
[01:12:14] Mr. Ahmet Davutoğlu, he also shared
[01:12:18] an important decision for himself, his party,
[01:12:21] and his family. We all learned about
[01:12:24] it. In the past, we were rivals in politics, we had strong criticisms.
[01:12:28] We met in opposition, we had conversations
[01:12:31] together, and he announced that he would not engage
[01:12:34] in politics anymore. On this occasion,
[01:12:37] I wish Mr. Davutoğlu, his family,
[01:12:40] happiness, health, and peace
[01:12:43] in their future lives, and
[01:12:47] to him, to him,
[01:12:50] to the Republic, to him,
[01:12:54] as the new party group, we wish him
[01:12:57] success in his future life.
[01:13:00] I was a group deputy in 2016. Prime
[01:13:03] Minister Davutoğlu, Mr. Davutoğlu,
[01:13:07] says, "There are about 60 criteria for visa-free
[01:13:11] travel, about 60 regulations. Some of them have been made,
[01:13:14] if we make some more, visa-free travel
[01:13:17] will happen." We are already the party
[01:13:21] that owns the idea of the European Union.
[01:13:24] Also, compliance with European rules
[01:13:27] means democracy, it means a more
[01:13:30] orderly public administration, it means transparency.
[01:13:34] On that day, as a group,
[01:13:36] we said we would work day and night and pass
[01:13:40] these. Many regulations were made. It came down to
[01:13:43] it, it got stuck on the last four. There was
[01:13:47] only one law
[01:13:49] left, and do you know what it was? The political
[01:13:53] ethics law, the political morality
[01:13:56] law, a law to be passed according to Greko criteria,
[01:13:59] which would ensure accountability in politics.
[01:14:03] We gave full support to Mr. Davutoğlu,
[01:14:06] opposition parties gave full support.
[01:14:09] "When everything was ready, between us,
[01:14:13] at that time, while Mr. Davutoğlu
[01:14:16] was also the leader of his party, Mr. Erdoğan,
[01:14:20] who was supposedly an impartial president,
[01:14:23] made a phone call,
[01:14:31] invited Davutoğlu to him, and said,
[01:14:35] 'What are you doing? How can you pass
[01:14:38] this?' The answer he received was,
[01:14:42] 'If this law passes, we won't be able to find
[01:14:46] district chairs or provincial chairs in the AK Party.'
[01:14:49] and prevented the law." Journalist İsmail
[01:14:52] Saymaz said on his social
[01:14:55] media account, "According to New Party
[01:14:59] sources, a backstage information was shared:
[01:15:02] Approximately 230 mayors have resigned
[01:15:06] from the Republican People's Party to join the New Party.
[01:15:09] Two are metropolitan, Manisa and Denizli.
[01:15:13] Bursa is expected today. Tekirdağ, Muğla, and Eskişehir
[01:15:16] can be added. 105 are districts affiliated
[01:15:20] with metropolitan municipalities. 17 are cities,
[01:15:24] Bartın is expected in half. Adıyaman
[01:15:26] remains with the Republican People's Party. 57
[01:15:30] are districts, 47 are towns.
[01:15:34] It is stated that the number will exceed 230
[01:15:37] on Friday." he said and pointed to Friday.
[01:15:41] What did Özgür Ozar say? When the new party
[01:15:44] opened, he made special statements to Halk Television
[01:15:48] when they joined the new party. He said that they came
[01:15:51] with nothing and launched a donation campaign.
[01:15:55] Afterwards, at his
[01:15:58] party's first open group meeting, he called
[01:16:02] on them to get rid of coup plotters
[01:16:05] and those who restrict them, and this was interpreted
[01:16:08] as a call for mass resignations, a call
[01:16:11] to join the new party. At the same meeting,
[01:16:14] he also made statements
[01:16:16] about the campaign
[01:16:19] launched when treasury aid could not be received.
[01:16:23] I'm looking, it's been about
[01:16:55] a week since the campaign started, and the donation amount
[01:16:58] has reached... Look how much
[01:17:02] it has reached? Our citizen Mehmet
[01:17:04] Bey sent 1881 liras. I am making
[01:17:08] this donation in the name of Gazi Mustafa Kemal Atatürk.
[01:17:11] Dear citizens, 283,296,848
[01:17:14] liras have been donated by 131,514
[01:17:18] citizens in 7 days
[01:17:21] for our new party's
[01:18:07] Solidarity Campaign. I thank all our citizens
[01:18:11] who supported our march to power. According to the latest
[01:18:14] table opened, the number of citizens who donated
[01:18:18] exceeded 131 thousand and the total amount
[01:18:22] exceeded 233 million liras. Our accounts
[01:18:25] are open to public audit, open to every donor,
[01:18:29] and also open to the public. New Party Chairman Özgür
[01:18:32] Özel made the first call for participation
[01:18:36] to those who remained in the CHP at his
[01:18:39] party's first open group meeting to the press.
[01:18:42] I call out to all
[01:18:45] our friends: let's go, friends!
[01:18:49] In the same video, Özgür Özel also explained
[01:18:52] his party's new political model
[01:18:56] and once again
[01:18:56] emphasized
[01:19:00] that they would fundamentally change the old-generation
[01:19:03] organizational approach. Our claim to establish
[01:19:07] new generation politics is not just a promise.
[01:19:10] New politics is established
[01:19:14] with new principles. We are taking a step
[01:19:18] that will fundamentally change the old-generation
[01:19:21] organizational approach. Now, in our new party,
[01:19:24] every member will directly
[01:19:27] elect the district chairman, the provincial
[01:19:31] chairman, and the general chairman. New-generation
[01:19:35] politics, where members have a say, authority,
[01:19:38] and decision-making power, will be established
[01:19:41] with the new party. I invite
[01:19:44] all democrats of Turkey to the new
[01:19:48] politics of the new party. Let's talk,
[01:19:51] who should we talk to? Political communicator
[01:19:55] Dr. İbrahim Uslu is with us.
[01:19:58] İbrahim Uslu, hello, welcome to television
[01:20:02] screens. Hello, good broadcasts,
[01:20:05] good luck. Thank you very much. New party, new generation
[01:20:09] membership, new politics, new promises.
[01:20:13] How did you find it? We would like to hear
[01:20:16] your initial assessments. Now, these are very
[01:20:20] important things, important steps, actuallygives,
[01:20:23] whereas in Turkey, you know, we are talking on television
[01:20:27] about who should be the candidate of such and such alliance or party
[01:20:31] in the next election a week after an election,
[01:20:34] whereas the people who should decide on this are the party members.
[01:20:37] We, or only a few people in the general
[01:20:41] headquarters, or party groups, groups
[01:20:45] in the parliament, and so on. Now, that's why it was necessary
[01:20:48] to fill the content of the new generation's political claim
[01:20:51] with such methods. In this sense, at least the things that have
[01:20:55] been put forward as ideas and projects so far
[01:20:58] are correct things. For whom are these particularly important?
[01:21:02] Especially for weary voters who are fed up with the current
[01:21:06] party system, political party culture, and think that
[01:21:09] these are inefficient. Plus, there is a new reality
[01:21:13] called the independent voter, which I have been trying to draw
[01:21:16] attention to for a long time. This is not new, in fact,
[01:21:20] the political science literature has noticed their importance
[01:21:23] for a while now, and a lot of academic literature
[01:21:27] has started to be produced in political science and
[01:21:30] political psychology about these "independent voters." Who are these
[01:21:34] people? They are interested in politics, they go to the polls, but they
[01:21:37] don't define themselves with a political party identity.
[01:21:41] That is, these people don't say, "I am a born CHP member,
[01:21:44] I am an AK Party member for x generations, I am an MHP member." They don't
[01:21:48] have a political party identity. They look at things and make rational
[01:21:52] decisions in each election. From time to time, they were
[01:21:55] called by different names, but now, especially a large majority
[01:21:59] of young, well-educated voters have an independent voter profile.
[01:22:02] Therefore, there is no party loyalty. How will you attract
[01:22:06] them? When you are a party like other parties, it's not possible
[01:22:09] for you to attract the attention or win the favor of these people.
[01:22:13] However, when you make such innovations, for example, if they can really
[01:22:17] implement the women's quota, this is something this group
[01:22:21] is very sensitive about. Or, when you say, "I will not just
[01:22:24] rely on the delegate system or the general headquarters,
[01:22:28] I will have my members elect, and the owner of the party
[01:22:31] will not be me or the general headquarters, it will be my members," this is
[01:22:35] a new model that will attract a lot of interest and support.
[01:22:38] That's why I see Mr. Özgür Özel, probably aware of what
[01:22:42] I have explained, trying to attract these new voters, independent
[01:22:45] voters, who are not loyal to any party. They will be
[01:22:48] the majority after a while. While going to the 2023
[01:22:52] elections, one out of four voters on the street was an independent
[01:22:56] voter. This has increased even more to this day, I am
[01:22:59] sure of it. If it were to be measured today, it might be around
[01:23:03] 35-40%. In every election, 6 million new voters enter
[01:23:07] the system. However, since parties cannot attract them,
[01:23:10] a large majority of them don't go to the polls, a little more
[01:23:14] than half don't go to the polls. Therefore, the way to bring
[01:23:18] them to the polls, to win their favor and make them
[01:23:22] vote for their party, is really to do extraordinary,
[01:23:25] unconventional things. Otherwise, if I say, "I am a party like
[01:23:29] other parties, but I have very good solutions for employment,"
[01:23:33] or "I have very good solutions for inflation," it may not
[01:23:36] attract enough attention. But this kind of differentiation
[01:23:40] in structural elements, rather than policy elements,
[01:23:43] I think, can provide great
[01:23:46] advantages to the new party. That's why he says,
[01:23:50] "This political formation process, Mr. Özgür
[01:23:53] Özel, describes it as such. He says,
[01:23:56] "Technically, we have been established, now we will complete
[01:23:59] our political formation process." If he succeeds in implementing
[01:24:02] what he said during this process, I believe that the return
[01:24:06] of this, that is, the return of votes and support, will be
[01:24:09] very high, and if he gets great support
[01:24:13] from younger and more educated voter groups who will control
[01:24:17] the future of Turkey, then he will have done
[01:24:21] a permanent job that will bring significant advantages
[01:24:24] not only today but also in the future. So, you
[01:24:28] are saying that these new discourses and the new political model
[01:24:32] are also effective in getting that support. Well, you
[01:24:35] just said if it can be implemented. Do you think it can be implemented?
[01:24:39] For example, there is a three-term limit, which is an important
[01:24:42] point that attracts attention in the model. To what
[01:24:46] extent can it be implemented in Turkey?
[01:24:50] If he says so, it will happen. It depends only on
[01:24:53] convincing the party organizations, party members, and party
[01:24:57] members. The AK Party also put this in place, but then
[01:25:00] realpolitik took over and principles were abandoned for
[01:25:04] the sake of realpolitik. Now, I will not abandon principles
[01:25:08] for the sake of realpolitik. Principle is what matters, because
[01:25:11] you put one principle in place, and it illuminates the way for
[01:25:15] those people and institutions for hundreds of years. So,
[01:25:18] you put a principle like separation
[01:25:20] of powers. You talk about proportional representation, pluralism.
[01:25:23] All these are principles, that's why they are universal
[01:25:27] principles. Here too, a principle will be established, and
[01:25:31] its name will probably not be the three-term rule. When
[01:25:35] you say that, some people can object. Let's call it elite circulation,
[01:25:38] because why? If someone can stay there for 8 terms,
[01:25:42] then elite circulation does not happen. How will I rise
[01:25:45] from below then? If someone stays in the chair for 5,
[01:25:49] 6, or 7 terms, I will stay where I am below. Then,
[01:25:52] my individual effort, performance,
[01:25:55] efficiency, intelligence, and knowledge will not be enough
[01:25:59] to move up, because the seats are full. That's when dirty
[01:26:02] competitions start within the party, unethical methods start.
[01:26:06] Whereas if I know that in the natural course of things,
[01:26:09] I can rise only when I am good, when I work
[01:26:13] hard, when I am efficient, and when I am deserving,
[01:26:16] when I have merit, and if I witness examples of this,
[01:26:20] then you don't need to use dirty methods, and you create
[01:26:23] beauty, truth, and goodness, because the system has already
[01:26:27] guaranteed elite circulation. After two or three terms,
[01:26:31] someone in a position leaves. I know that at most I will wait
[01:26:34] two or three terms, and then after a maximum of 3 terms,
[01:26:38] I can get a promotion. Knowing this is very comforting in politics,
[01:26:42] because we are talking about a very difficult job. People
[01:26:45] put in a lot of effort and see that their way is blocked.
[01:26:49] That is, when they see someone
[01:26:55] being a member of parliament for 8 terms, or a party
[01:26:58] council member for I don't know how many terms, people can
[01:27:02] resort to unethical ways. That's why a sluggishness occurs
[01:27:06] in the system. Exactly, blindness begins. They start
[01:27:10] to see this place as their own property. Whereas elite
[01:27:14] circulation should be open to the very end, even three
[01:27:17] terms are too many. We send the American president away
[01:27:21] after two terms. We couldn't achieve this in Turkey. But
[01:27:24] in Turkey, the President completes his term in two
[01:27:28] terms, cannot come back. But a provincial chairman, a member
[01:27:31] of parliament, or a party council member can stay for
[01:27:35] I don't know how many terms. Why do they stay? Are they
[01:27:38] more valuable than the American president? If America sends
[01:27:42] even its most valuable president away after two terms, if
[01:27:46] this is a constitutional article, then we should
[01:27:50] be able to do this in our parties. It's easier to do
[01:27:53] it in the party, as long as you convince the members,
[01:27:56] managers, and members of that party that this is
[01:28:00] the right thing to do. Now, let me share the latest situation.
[01:28:03] We talked about new generation membership in the new party.
[01:28:07] Özgür Özel stated that they have switched to a new
[01:28:10] generation membership system, and members will be able to follow
[01:28:14] the party management from a digital system. This is
[01:28:17] also an important development. The membership system can be
[01:28:20] opened on Monday. Fieldwork will be done for 21 provinces.
[01:28:23] Teams will go to the field after the parliamentary recess,
[01:28:27] meaning it is said that they will go to the field again
[01:28:31] around August 15-17. The general headquarters is expected
[01:28:35] to open on August 30. So far, according
[01:28:37] to new party sources, around 230 mayors have resigned
[01:28:41] to join the new party, and it is stated
[01:28:44] that this number will exceed 230 on Friday,
[01:28:47] that is, tomorrow. Parties can no
[01:28:51] longer attract anyone with old discourses,
[01:28:55] especially independent voters, you said. So, is the
[01:28:59] new party a new center of attraction with new discourses?
[01:29:02] Would it be correct to make this statement? It needs
[01:29:06] to be so. I mean, will it succeed? We
[01:29:08] don't know that yet, but if you ask if
[01:29:12] it needs to succeed, absolutely. As I said,
[01:29:16] it needs to differentiate itself from other parties
[01:29:19] at some point, because it started the race with very
[01:29:23] big disadvantages. Just now, we saw the aid that
[01:29:26] other parties received from the treasury in your news report.
[01:29:30] And we also saw the donations made to the CHP, which were
[01:29:34] collected by the whole society through IMC method and seemed
[01:29:37] very high to all of us. Even the one who received
[01:29:40] the least received much more treasury aid than the donations
[01:29:44] made to the CHP, I apologize, to the new party.
[01:29:46] So, financially,
[01:29:49] the new party is already starting far behind. How will it compete then?
[01:29:53] The others are organized, etc. They have everything, district
[01:29:57] buildings, etc. Now,
[01:30:07] us, İbrahim Uslu, political communications expert İbrahim
[01:30:09] Uslu is with us. My colleagues are dealing with it immediately.
[01:30:13] There is a freeze in the image. Yes, has it come back?
[01:30:16] I think it has. Yes, your voice is reaching us too,
[01:30:19] please go ahead. Now, therefore, he can overcome
[01:30:23] these disadvantages only by using disproportionate
[01:30:26] intelligence and disproportionate innovation. That's why
[01:30:30] I believe that the new party is already aware of this.
[01:30:33] When you look at all the steps of Mr. Özgür Özel, you can
[01:30:37] see this. Now, the fact that he socializes the issue, for example,
[01:30:41] shows that he is aware of this process. From the very
[01:30:44] first moment, he turned it from an internal party discussion
[01:30:48] and a competition of cadres within the party.
[01:30:52] From the moment he left the general headquarters, he met with the
[01:30:55] society and socialized the issue. He managed the new party process
[01:30:59] by socializing it and established the party in that way. He
[01:31:03] even said that the society determined the name of the party
[01:31:07] and himself, because everywhere he went, people pushed him
[01:31:11] from his arm and said, "What are you waiting for?
[01:31:14] Establish the party." They said, "We want a new party." Therefore,
[01:31:17] they told us both to establish the party and the name of the party.
[01:31:20] That is, the fact that he socializes the issue,
[01:31:24] this donation model, otherwise, these moneys could have been collected
[01:31:27] from business people here and there without our knowledge.
[01:31:31] No, they did this with a transparent campaign.
[01:31:34] He constantly socializes the issue. While doing this on one
[01:31:37] hand, he also starts to explain those new generation
[01:31:41] political elements to the society. All of these, for now,
[01:31:45] that is, under the given conditions they are in, are
[01:31:48] very rational, very correct. Now it's time to implement
[01:31:52] these. For example, there are transparency discourses
[01:31:56] of Mr. Özgür Özel. Transparency is very necessary in such
[01:31:59] situations. Now, there is also a call for a transparency
[01:32:10] and political ethics law. Just before your connection,
[01:32:13] we shared it with our viewers. In the group meeting,
[01:32:17] he reminded us of the statement made in 2016 by Davutoğlu
[01:32:21] and President Erdoğan during their phone conversation,
[01:32:25] saying that they could not find provincial and district
[01:32:28] chairmen to serve. Is it possible in Turkey, in your
[01:32:32] opinion? It is possible. Parties need to overcome this. Now,
[01:32:35] I just mentioned America. There are no provincial
[01:32:39] and district organizations in America. That is, elections
[01:32:42] are organized across a huge continent without provincial,
[01:32:45] district, or state organizations. What do they do? When
[01:32:49] it's election time, members come together, set up election offices,
[01:32:53] and work voluntarily. After the elections, everyone goes
[01:32:56] back to their own business. There are no provincial
[01:32:59] or district organizations. Why do there have to be
[01:33:03] provincial and district organizations in Turkey?
[01:33:06] If transparency is an obstacle for district organizations,
[01:33:10] or if some people refrain from entering politics, then
[01:33:13] let them not enter. In your opinion, why are
[01:33:17] there provincial and district organizations in Turkey?
[01:33:20] Because it makes it easier to manage politics. Otherwise,
[01:33:23] while you have to deal with a lot of members, now you
[01:33:27] manage politics with the organizations under your command. In the
[01:33:29] other case, you can't command a member. When he doesn't
[01:33:33] agree with you, he objects to you. And you can't
[01:33:36] make much noise, because he decides whether you will be
[01:33:39] there or not. Therefore, a community too large to
[01:33:42] be corrupted begins to manage politics. This becomes
[01:33:46] the guarantee of the cleanliness of politics and the quality
[01:33:50] of democracy in the country. Now, if you can't establish
[01:33:53] a district organization, an provincial organization
[01:33:56] when there are ethical rules, then don't. Because we pay
[01:33:59] a very high social cost for that. That is, we don't
[01:34:02] have to pay a very heavy political, economic, and
[01:34:06] social price just so that parties can do politics easily
[01:34:10] and general chairmen can manage politics comfortably. If you
[01:34:13] remove the obligation to establish a party organization in the
[01:34:17] Political Parties Law, then if an organization cannot
[01:34:20] be established, it cannot be established. Then you turn around and look for the
[01:34:24] answer to why my members, those who support me,
[01:34:28] are also afraid of the data, and you solve this problem.
[01:34:32] But the solution should not be to suspend transparency,
[01:34:34] not to apply transparency or ethical rules. This means
[01:34:38] admitting that politics is a dirty business and
[01:34:41] must remain dirty. Whereas politics must be saved
[01:34:45] from this dirtiness and closedness.
[01:34:57] things that sadden and hurt us today. Yes, of course,
[01:35:00] when you say that, Kemal Sunal films also come to
[01:35:03] mind, don't they? Meanwhile, the first images from the
[01:35:07] meeting between President Erdoğan and MHP leader Devlet Bahçeli
[01:35:10] are coming to our screens. Viewers may say,
[01:35:12] "You are talking about something different, but our friends
[01:35:16] are also sharing those hot moments with you." The meeting
[01:35:19] started at 14:00, and I am looking at my watch,
[01:35:23] it shows 14:35, so it's been about 35 minutes.
[01:35:27] Demirören News Agency passed these images and frames. The last meeting was on April
[01:35:31] 30th. This is the first contact after 3 months, an important
[01:35:34] contact. A framework law is on the agenda. What
[01:35:38] was discussed? Statements regarding this will come
[01:35:40] in the coming minutes. My time is up, İbrahim Uslu.
[01:35:44] If you wish, we can also get your comment on the last
[01:35:47] frames we shared. Yes, it is clear that this is
[01:35:50] a meeting about the solution process. Since I have supported
[01:35:53] this solution process from the beginning, I believe that
[01:35:57] all positive steps taken in this regard will benefit
[01:36:00] the country. There is already a great consensus in the parliament.
[01:36:02] If this issue is resolved with a great consensus,
[01:36:06] it will contribute to the country. But for now, there is
[01:36:09] only a package that concerns 5-6000 PKK members.
[01:36:12] In the future, I want
[01:36:15] to renew my hope and expectation here that democracy and reform
[01:36:19] packages aimed at increasing the level of democratization
[01:36:21] will come. Thank you very much. I wish you a nice day.
[01:36:25] Goodbye, thank you. Dr.
[01:36:35] on our screens. We will immediately switch our cameras and share
[01:36:38] it with you when a statement comes. Now, in the new party,
[01:36:41] the New Party Zonguldak Deputy Deniz Yavuz Yılmaz
[01:37:18] said that illegal villas were built in Tuzla during
[01:37:22] the AKP period, and that there was a rent of 3 billion
[01:37:25] liras. He criticized Eren Ali Bingöl, who joined
[01:37:29] the AKP, saying that he was legitimizing the illegal
[01:37:32] villas. Our mayor, who preferred AK cadres.
[01:37:35] Eren Ali Bingöl, who joined the AKP from the CHP, explained
[01:37:38] his reason for joining by claiming that the CHP could
[01:37:42] not solve the problems of 50,000 residents of Tuzla
[01:37:45] who were suffering. The IBB, on the other hand,
[01:37:48] argued that the problem in question stemmed from
[01:37:52] zoning corruption left over from the AKP era.
[01:37:55] Under normal circumstances, a zoning right that could be used once
[01:37:59] was determined to have been transferred
[01:38:02] to different parcels 185 times in a single
[01:38:06] instance. New Party Zonguldak Deputy Deniz Yavuz Yılmaz
[01:38:09] also focused on the issue. He claimed that 154 illegal
[01:38:12] villas were built in Tuzla during the AKP period. Deniz
[01:38:16] Yavuz Yılmaz also shared an open address link on his
[01:38:19] social media account for those who want to see the villas
[01:38:23] in question on site. Tuzla Municipality during
[01:38:26] the AKP period transfers 75,000 square
[01:38:29] meters of land to Tuzyap, a municipal company,
[01:38:33] in exchange for its debts in 2023. Afterwards,
[01:38:36] they make a decision to build a hobby garden on the park
[01:38:40] and recreation area and illegally erect 154
[01:38:43] unregistered villas
[01:39:09] and 4 commercial structures. In Tuzla, Eren Ali Bingöl,
[01:39:13] the CHP's candidate, wins the 2024 local elections.
[01:39:16] That is, the AKP officials who carried out all the tricks
[01:39:19] in these matters lose the election. At this very
[01:39:23] stage, instead of demanding accountability for this
[01:39:26] rent created in the period before him, Eren Ali Bingöl
[01:39:29] takes action to legitimize the rent. He wants a zoning
[01:39:33] change to give titles to illegal villas and increase
[01:39:36] their value. So what happens? On July 8, 2026,
[01:39:40] 3 CHP zoning commission members resist Eren Ali
[01:39:43] Bingöl with an honorable stance and thwart this
[01:39:46] rent plan. Yavuz Yılmaz also stated that Eren Ali
[01:39:50] Bingöl is counting the days
[01:39:54] to give titles to the illegal villas. And retirees.
[01:39:58] Unfortunately, retirees did not get the raise they expected in July. The lowest
[01:40:02] retirement pension was 20,000 liras with a 17% inflation
[01:40:05] difference. What happened? It became 23,552 liras.
[01:40:09] What can a retiree buy when they go to the market
[01:40:12] with 3,552 liras? They can't buy anything decent.
[01:40:15] A market shopping trip starts from 1,500 liras,
[01:40:19] even if you don't buy cheese or ground meat or anything.
[01:40:22] Now, the retiree's eye is on the raise to be made
[01:40:26] in January. The first calculations, scenarios for January are
[01:40:30] being discussed. We reported on the scenarios. Let's
[01:40:33] watch it together.
[01:40:37] How much should the pension be? Based on the current
[01:40:40] situation, it should be around 40, 42.
[01:40:43] The increase made in July, proportional to the
[01:40:47] inflation difference, did not satisfy retirees. Now,
[01:40:50] millions of retirees are looking forward to the increase
[01:40:54] in January. It is very difficult to make ends meet
[01:40:57] with 23,500 liras. You cannot pay your rent with 23,000 liras. So,
[01:41:01] life is very difficult. July inflation was announced.
[01:41:05] According to Twitch, inflation in July was 1.78%.
[01:41:08] With this figure, calculations for the increase that SSK
[01:41:12] and Bağkur retirees will receive in January have
[01:41:16] started. There are three different salary increase
[01:41:19] scenarios on the table. The first scenario
[01:41:22] is a 26% year-end inflation. In this case, the retirement
[01:41:26] increase will be 7%. In the second scenario, the
[01:41:29] year-end inflation expectation is 29.21%, and the
[01:41:33] increase rate will rise to 9.72%. The third scenario is
[01:41:36] 30.32% inflation. In this case, the retirement increase will
[01:41:40] be 10.67%. What is 3,000 liras, really? What can
[01:41:44] we do with 3,000 liras? Nothing, really. If
[01:41:47] you go to a restaurant, even the worst one,
[01:41:50] it costs 2-3,000. What can you do in these
[01:41:54] conditions? The lowest retirement pension was also
[01:41:58] recalculated. It was raised to 23,552 liras in July.
[01:42:01] In the 7% increase scenario, it is expected to exceed
[01:42:05] the 25,000 lira limit in January. In the highest
[01:42:08] scenario, it could go above 26,000 liras.
[01:42:12] Where will it be enough? You go to the market twice,
[01:42:15] and then you pretend you got a raise. You realize
[01:42:19] what you got is not enough when you spend it. Eyes
[01:42:22] are on the steps the government will take. Former AKP
[01:42:26] MP Şamil Tayyar conveyed his meeting with Treasury
[01:42:29] and Finance Minister Mehmet Şimşek. According to Tayyar,
[01:42:32] there is no plan for a lump-sum increase for retirees and
[01:42:35] minimum wage earners. However, new studies are being conducted
[01:42:38] to increase purchasing power. The prominent topics are rent,
[01:42:42] food, and transportation. I will continue to work.
[01:42:46] Will you still work even if you retire? Of course,
[01:42:50] I will work. I need to work for my children's
[01:42:53] future. I want a job, I want to work. I'm 85.
[01:42:57] Do you want to work? I want to work, but there are no jobs.
[01:43:00] Tayyar also said that additional monthly support
[01:43:04] for low-income earners is on the agenda. I go to
[01:43:07] the market, I try to pick
[01:43:08] the cheap ones, but they
[01:43:13] are half rotten, half bruised. A group of young people started
[01:43:17] arguing on social media, and at the place where they
[01:43:20] met supposedly to make peace, the tension rose
[01:43:23] even further, and a fight broke out. 19-year-old
[01:43:27] Ali Anzo, who was stabbed, lost his life. There are
[01:43:31] security camera footages
[01:43:34] of those moments and what happened afterwards.
[01:43:37] 19-year-old Ali Anzo met with the group he argued
[01:43:40] with on social media. The young man, who was severely injured
[01:43:44] in the knife fight that broke out in front of the park, lost his life at
[01:43:48] the hospital where he was
[01:43:51] taken. Eight suspects were detained in connection
[01:43:54] with the fight. Camera footage of the fight has emerged.
[01:43:58] The incident occurred in front of a park
[01:44:02] in the Yedikule neighborhood
[01:44:05] of Fatih district. According to the allegations, two
[01:44:08] groups who argued on social media met to talk and make
[01:44:12] peace. The argument escalated Ali Anzo could not be saved
[01:44:16] despite all the intervention of the doctors. One was seriously injured
[01:44:18] in Yonbağın, and the other died directly at the scene.
[01:44:22] Ali Anzo's cousin, who lost his life, claimed that the young people
[01:44:25] came together to make peace, but were attacked without any discussion.
[01:44:29] They didn't talk at all, they didn't do anything, they attacked the child directly. On the other hand,
[01:44:33] security camera footage regarding the incident emerged. The footage
[01:44:37] showed a crowded group starting to argue after talking for a while.
[01:44:40] Then, there were moments when the fight escalated and Aleanzo was stabbed
[01:44:44] and fell to the ground. While the police teams' investigation into the incident
[01:44:48] continued, eight suspects determined to be involved in the fight
[01:44:51] were detained. The investigation into the incident is
[01:44:53] ongoing.
[01:44:56] The Ministry of National Education announced the LGS preference
[01:44:59] results. According to this,
[01:45:01] 1.29
[01:45:03] students made choices and 963,322
[01:45:06] of the students
[01:45:09] were placed. Most of the Imam Hatip schools
[01:45:12] remained empty because students preferred
[01:45:16] science high schools
[01:45:17] instead of Imam Hatip.
[01:45:20] The High School Entrance System, LGS placement results
[01:45:23] were announced. The results, which concern hundreds of thousands of
[01:45:26] students and parents, were made accessible on the Ministry of National Education's website.
[01:45:30] According to this, a total of 1,29,595
[01:45:33] students made choices. Of these,
[01:45:35] 963,322 were placed in a high school.
[01:45:39] According to the LGS results, 296,292
[01:45:42] quotas remained empty
[01:45:45] in the placed high schools. The Ministry of National Education's report on preferences
[01:45:49] was also shared. The most striking point in the report was the choices of
[01:45:53] Imam Hatip Secondary School graduates. According to this, the government's Imam
[01:45:56] Hatip incentives and advertisements did not yield results. Even a large
[01:46:00] portion of Imam Hatip Secondary School graduates preferred Science High School instead of Imam Hatip
[01:46:03] High School. While the number of Imam Hatip students who preferred Imam Hatip High School
[01:46:07] remained at 34%, the rate of those who preferred Science High School
[01:46:10] was 40%.
[01:46:13] Out of 5697 Imam Hatip Secondary School students
[01:46:17] in the most successful 5% segment, only 1957 chose Imam
[01:46:20] Hatip in high school. Among those in the same segment, the number of students who wrote Imam Hatip
[01:46:24] as their first choice was only
[01:46:26] 936.
[01:46:29] When looking at the first five preferences, only 555
[01:46:32] of the total 43,850 students preferred Vocational High School,
[01:46:35] and 2,623 preferred Imam Hatip High School. The number of those who preferred
[01:46:39] Anatolian High School was 17,779, and the number of those
[01:46:42] who preferred Science High School was
[01:46:45] 22,870. According to the data, the least preferred
[01:46:49] schools were social sciences high schools. The report stated that there were a total of
[01:46:52] 296,292 empty quotas
[01:46:55] after the first placement. Preferences for the first transfer
[01:46:58] based on placement will be made on August 5-7,
[01:47:01] and the results of the first transfer will be announced on August 10.
[01:47:05] Oscar-winning actor and singer
[01:49:01] The meeting between President Erdoğan and MHP leader
[01:49:05] Devlet Bahçeli started at 2:00 PM.
[01:49:09] I'm looking at my watch, it lasted for about 45-47
[01:49:12] minutes. The previous meeting on April 30
[01:49:16] lasted about 50 minutes. Images from Demirören News Agency
[01:49:19] reached our news center. Yes, that welcoming moment
[01:49:22] happened in Beştepe. After the handshake, they moved to the meeting
[01:49:26] area, and then there were moments of shaking hands
[01:49:30] and posing for the press. This was the first contact
[01:49:34] after the framework law came to parliament,
[01:49:37] so it was an important contact. The meeting has ended. If a statement
[01:49:41] comes, we will share it with you now.
[01:49:44] Let's continue. Kazakhstan.
[01:49:48] After 10
[02:00:24] Hello again from the news desk on Halk Television screens.
[02:00:27] It's 3 PM, we're in the last hour,
[02:00:31] and there are very hot developments. The meeting
[02:00:35] between President Erdoğan and MHP leader Devlet Bahçeli
[02:00:38] has ended, and the first images regarding
[02:00:42] that meeting have reached our news center, Halk Television news center.
[02:00:45] Let's take a detailed look
[02:00:47] at the images, and I'll share them with you immediately.
[02:00:51] Now, an important meeting,
[02:00:54] it lasted 45 minutes. The main agenda of the meeting was the framework
[02:00:57] law and then...