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[00:00:00] after 3 months, we are talking about a completely different person and a completely different scenario. Probably there is no such thing, I mean, there are exorbitant returns, but when you don't set a criterion for what is exorbitant, what is the starting date, when you don't set any criteria for these, then a news report comes out saying 187 billion, another news report says 401 billion. These 187 billion and 401 billion probably overlap. I mean, we might be making a mistake by adding them up. So they want us to take some information from them in a fog and interpret it. There is a benefit in being transparent. When Mehmet Şimşek took over from Nurettin Nebahat in 2023, what did he say? Transparency, accountability, international standards. Now, in an investigation of this magnitude, where a loss of about 20 billion dollars is mentioned, I say don't announce the names of the people, but at least number them, let's know who withdrew how much money on what date, how much of it was an exorbitant return, and how much was not. Let's put it into a standard, so we can make a calculation within it. As long as these things don't happen, as I said, we are trying to comment in a fog. Well, let me add this to the public funds part, Kerim Bey, Emlak Katılım bought 1.5 billion units of Katılım Ev shares from Tera, and we are talking about approximately 12 billion Turkish liras at current prices. A similar situation will undoubtedly occur with Pusula. Cevdet Yılmaz says public funds will not be transferred, but I think we saw the first transfer of public funds, at least clearly, in Emlak Katılım, can we say that? Yes, there is a lot of obfuscation there as well, that is, the share price in that table.
[00:00:25] October 12, 2026, Monday. We have started a new week and
[00:00:28] a busy week. This week's agenda will be quite
[00:00:32] busy. We will continue to talk about the fund fraud, as we did
[00:00:36] in previous weeks. There are new statements made today.
[00:00:39] The statements made by Cevdet Yılmaz were important.
[00:00:43] There is a detail that has been said for days, that
[00:00:46] public funds will not be transferred, but
[00:00:50] today such a development did not occur. We will look at whether
[00:00:54] public funds are being transferred or not. It's a critical week
[00:00:57] in the IBB case. We expect the second hearing
[00:01:01] to conclude this week. Ekrem İmamoğlu, who could not make
[00:01:04] his defense at the end of the first hearing,
[00:01:07] will he be able to make his defense this week? Will he be given only
[00:01:11] two days again? We will ask these questions soon, and
[00:01:14] another hot development of the day is reflected on your screens, dear
[00:01:17] viewers. Now, today, Zeynel Emri, the spokesperson
[00:01:21] of the New Party, made statements and touched upon this issue.
[00:01:25] Which one? The Antalya Metropolitan Municipality.
[00:01:28] In recent days, especially due to some statements, the question
[00:01:31] of whether he would join the AKP came to the agenda. Büşra
[00:01:35] Hanım stated that she spoke with our chairman
[00:01:39] and there is no such situation. Büşra Özdemir also
[00:01:42] broke her silence and said that she is doing politics in the CHP
[00:01:46] and of course she can meet with ministries, but
[00:01:50] she said she will continue to stay in the CHP. At the same time,
[00:01:53] we will bring a piece of Ms. Büşra's voice to your screens.
[00:01:57] Her speech at the City Council in October. "Actually,
[00:02:00] Ms. Büşra also touched upon this issue.
[00:02:04] In recent days, actually for the last 15 months, a lot of news
[00:02:07] has been made about me, you must have noticed. I have a habit
[00:02:11] of not answering, let's say this is my nature. I don't
[00:02:15] answer any of them, but I will answer, because for a week now,
[00:02:18] a very tiring process has begun. I came to office in a very difficult
[00:02:22] period, I took over a difficult duty, and I believe that I have
[00:02:25] done my best in this duty, I am trying to be worthy
[00:02:29] of the responsibility. I do politics under the roof of the
[00:02:33] Republican People's Party. As the Deputy Mayor of Antalya
[00:02:36] Metropolitan Municipality, I approach with great courtesy, that is, when
[00:02:39] talking about someone, I ask people
[00:02:43] to be more courteous and more thoughtful.
[00:02:46] Let me also say this: of course, we meet with our
[00:02:50] ministries. Antalya is not only Turkey's
[00:02:54] but also the world's tourism paradise, the capital of our country's
[00:02:57] agriculture and tourism, a city. And since
[00:03:01] the first day, most of you know me from a long time
[00:03:04] ago, I have always not used a very political discourse,
[00:03:08] I have always approached everyone with courtesy, because
[00:03:10] I believe that local government is independent of politics, that
[00:03:14] serious politics, that is, serious political
[00:03:17] discourses, should be made by members of parliament,
[00:03:20] provincial and district chairs. As such, our responsibility
[00:03:23] is to serve this city, because we were elected
[00:03:27] to serve this city. "Yes, for this
[00:03:30] reason, I meet with our ministries, with all relevant institutions,
[00:03:34] with great respect and courtesy, and I receive
[00:03:37] very good responses from them. This is a mutual approach,
[00:03:40] a mutual dialogue. We approach with great respect,
[00:03:43] and we also see very good attitudes. From our Ministry of Environment
[00:03:47] and Urbanization,
[00:03:50] So I am being accused of an authority from our Minister of Youth and Sports for our Golden Orange application I just mentioned, and from
[00:03:54] all our other relevant organizations, from our provincial directors,
[00:03:58] from our esteemed governorship, we have developed positive dialogues
[00:04:02] with our ministries, and I still
[00:04:02] believe that this is good for
[00:04:06] this city and that I am doing the right thing." We brought
[00:04:09] the statements of Antalya Metropolitan Municipality Deputy Mayor Büşra
[00:04:12] Özdemir's speech in the council in October to your screens. So,
[00:04:16] if you ask where this rumor came from, AKP Deputy Chairman
[00:04:19] Hasan Basri Yalçın said, "I won't mention names, but
[00:04:22] there is another metropolitan municipality in line."
[00:04:26] A journalist close to the government and expected to join the AKP,
[00:04:34] Sinan Burhan, had also pointed to it, and as we said today,
[00:04:37] the spokesperson of the New Party held a press conference minutes
[00:04:41] ago. He was asked this question
[00:04:45] there and he answered, "There is no such situation." Zeynel
[00:04:48] Emre conveyed that Ms. Büşra had a meeting
[00:04:52] with our chairman this morning and said that such a thing
[00:04:56] is out of the question. Let's emphasize this once again. Now,
[00:05:00] As we said, it's a critical
[00:05:03] week today. We are also waiting for Ekrem İmamoğlu to speak.
[00:05:07] If I remember correctly, 17 people's defenses were left
[00:05:11] last time. Today and tomorrow,
[00:05:28] those 17 people will finish. Yes, there was a break, after which a new
[00:05:32] name, Selim Marangoz, was called to the stand. With this, 16
[00:05:35] names remained, including Ekrem İmamoğlu. It is expected that
[00:05:38] 15 people will finish within these two days, and on Wednesday
[00:05:42] at the earliest, İmamoğlu will begin his defense.
[00:05:45] You started with the fund, and I would like to say something
[00:05:49] about that as well, because this is one of the very frequently
[00:05:52] discussed topics. İmamoğlu said it while making his defense
[00:05:55] in his own cases, and today, we heard it again with the slogan
[00:05:59] shouted from the audience tribune: "Funders out, presidents in."
[00:06:02] With these slogans, the break ended, and as I said, the defenses
[00:06:06] continue from where they left off. We are in the 9th and final
[00:06:10] week for the second hearing, and as of this morning,
[00:06:13] the defenses have begun. Important names,
[00:06:16] especially those in the additional indictment, are making their defenses.
[00:06:20] There was a request this morning, and a result was obtained regarding
[00:06:23] this request, we can say that. There were 7 names in the additional
[00:06:26] indictment who were not arrested, but had judicial control measures
[00:06:30] in the form of house arrest, meaning they could not leave their
[00:06:34] homes. It was expected that an evaluation would be made over
[00:06:37] the file for these 7 names on Friday, but it was not done.
[00:06:41] The lawyers said, "Let's not wait for Thursday." Let's say
[00:06:44] that before the lunch break, the judicial control measure
[00:06:47] in the form of not leaving their homes for these 7 names was
[00:06:51] lifted. Currently, there are only those with a travel ban abroad,
[00:06:53] and there are names among the unarrested
[00:06:57] names who have judicial control measures in the form of signing
[00:07:01] in. It started with Oktay Özer this morning, as I just said.
[00:07:04] After he completed his defense, Murat Ongun asked him a question.
[00:07:08] Murat Ongun asked a question based on an allegation made
[00:07:12] in Deniz Dörtyol's defense in the last session last week,
[00:07:16] and he said, "What do you say about the allegation that the advertisement
[00:07:19] in Karaköy was removed? Did we make this decision?"
[00:07:23] Oktay Özel said, "Because the historical structure's silhouette was damaged,
[00:07:26] it was outside our decision. I remember that the Ministry
[00:07:30] of Culture Protection Board had a decision to remove it." Immediately
[00:07:33] after that, Mustafa Duhan Demir was one of the names from the
[00:07:37] indictment, and after him, Sezer Adaateş, Eren Sönmez.
[00:07:41] These are the names who say they rejected the charges because
[00:07:44] they were not based on concrete evidence. Selim Marangos is
[00:07:48] currently at the stand, as I just mentioned, and he is
[00:07:51] the 328th person to be heard. A total of 353 people are expected
[00:07:55] to be heard. When we exclude the fugitive names,
[00:07:59] there are currently 16 names remaining, including Ekrem İmamoğlu.
[00:08:03] However, there are also important names among these 16 names.
[00:08:06] For example, Ahmet Çiçek is expected to be heard today.
[00:08:09] Muhittin Palazoğlu had actually submitted an excuse today,
[00:08:13] but there is a possibility that he will be called and make
[00:08:16] his defense today. If that happens, since the questions of these
[00:08:20] names who benefit from effective repentance take a very long
[00:08:24] time, we expect this session to last for many hours.
[00:08:27] In the coming day, especially the detained
[00:08:31] names will be heard, and we expect Ekrem İmamoğlu
[00:08:35] to be next on Wednesday at the earliest. However,
[00:08:38] "appropriate time and reasonable duration" was said. This was
[00:08:42] the reason why Ekrem İmamoğlu did not make his defense
[00:08:45] in the first hearing. It was because a limited
[00:08:49] time was given. A debate arose over this, and the hearing
[00:08:52] was concluded by saying that he was using his right
[00:08:56] to remain silent. The hearing was actually concluded
[00:08:59] one day earlier than the target date. Here too, I think
[00:09:02] Ekrem İmamoğlu will be given about one and a half days.
[00:09:06] There are 155 actions with the additional indictment,
[00:09:10] and he is held responsible for 154 of them. One
[00:09:13] and a half days will be given for his defense based
[00:09:17] on these. If it starts on Wednesday, his lawyers
[00:09:20] will also make their defenses, and at the same time,
[00:09:24] an interim decision will be made on Thursday.
[00:09:27] In that interim decision, a decision will be made about
[00:09:31] the 53 arrested people. We will see if a release decision
[00:09:34] is made. So, it seems that a very limited time will be
[00:09:37] given again. We will see in the coming days whether a
[00:09:40] debate will arise regarding this. After Thursday,
[00:09:44] there will be a break of at most two weeks,
[00:09:48] and the third hearing will begin at the beginning of November.
[00:09:52] If two weeks are given in the first week,
[00:09:55] and then at the end of the third hearing,
[00:09:58] the opinion on the merits is expected to be heard, and the process
[00:10:01] is expected to progress quickly. But what will happen this week,
[00:10:05] when will İmamoğlu be given the floor, what will be asked
[00:10:08] of the names who benefit from effective repentance, what will
[00:10:12] be said? We are following all of it, let's say,
[00:10:16] to convey it to you. Yes, we thank Gamze Altunay.
[00:10:20] Ekrem İmamoğlu, who is on trial for 154 of the 155 actions,
[00:10:23] as far as we understand, will again be given
[00:10:26] a period of 1.5 days in the second hearing,
[00:10:30] just like at the end of the first hearing.
[00:10:33] Will he speak during that time, or how much will he be able
[00:10:37] to say even if he speaks? We will also follow this
[00:10:39] on Wednesday and Thursday.
[00:10:42] Now, what's on Turkey's agenda? There are bar elections,
[00:10:46] and important and critical statements are also coming
[00:10:49] from the bar elections. We will evaluate them soon, but
[00:10:53] the statements of the Ankara
[00:11:01] No. 2 Bar Association, which have been widely discussed
[00:11:05] in recent days, the "favoritism confession"
[00:11:09] in quotation marks, also led to his withdrawal
[00:11:12] from candidacy. Another hot topic of the day, we will
[00:11:16] evaluate it soon. So, if you ask what is happening
[00:11:19] in the bar elections, if we go from Ankara-Istanbul,
[00:11:23] Elçin Özge Şimşek Çağlayan was elected as the Head of
[00:11:26] Ankara Bar Association with 5848 votes.
[00:11:30] In Istanbul No. 2 Bar Association, 3 candidates competed.
[00:11:33] Rıza Saka was elected as the head with 1022 votes.
[00:11:37] Ali Kasım Tunay, the candidate supported by the Ak Party,
[00:11:40] said he would object to the election results,
[00:11:44] and this objection is a bit like... The AKP objected to the deputy mayoralty
[00:11:47] elections in the municipalities, and during that objection process,
[00:11:50] they won through arrests and transfers. Are we heading
[00:11:54] towards such a point
[00:11:57] in the bar elections as well? We will discuss this soon.
[00:12:01] A member of the Ak Party, Şamil Tayyar, made a post
[00:12:05] on social media about this. The discussion about the Istanbul
[00:12:08] No. 2 Bar Association election continues.
[00:12:10] In the past, the fight would be between the "right"
[00:12:14] and "left," as the classical term goes. Now, micro
[00:12:17] fights have started. Over the Istanbul No. 2 Bar Association,
[00:12:21] it is happening between the pro-government right and the opposition right. In the last
[00:12:25] election, the Ak Party members who lost the management
[00:12:29] in the Ankara No. 2 Bar Association lost in Istanbul again.
[00:12:32] There are only two No. 2 bar associations,
[00:12:36] and we have lost in both. Six years ago, when this law
[00:12:40] was being passed, we repeatedly stated that it was wrong.
[00:12:44] The division of bar associations, their categorization with political
[00:12:47] epithets... What happened now? It didn't
[00:12:50] even benefit those who said, "Let it be small, let it be mine."
[00:12:53] I hope they don't say,
[00:12:56] "Let's establish a No. 3 bar association" now, said Şamil Tayyar.
[00:12:59] About 5-6 years ago,
[00:13:03] the establishment of No. 2 bar associations,
[00:13:06] their political impact or the impact of politics
[00:13:09] on them, we will discuss this issue soon. But until now,
[00:13:12] with the conclusion of the bar elections that have taken place,
[00:13:16] bar elections are being held across Turkey.
[00:13:19] On one side, there are cries of "Allahu Akbar," on the other
[00:13:23] side, the second female president of the 102-year-old
[00:13:26] bar association. Four candidates competed
[00:13:30] for the presidency of the Ankara Bar Association.
[00:13:33] Elçin Özge Şimşek Çağlayan, the candidate of the Democratic
[00:13:36] Left Lawyers Group,
[00:13:39] won the presidential election with 5848 votes.
[00:13:42] Çağlayan became the second female president
[00:13:45] of the Ankara Bar Association, founded in 1924.
[00:13:48] Doğukan Kozan, the candidate of the Turkish Nationalist
[00:13:52] Lawyers Group, received
[00:13:57] 2997 votes. Funda Şahin, the candidate of the
[00:14:00] Lawyers' Rights Group, received 2816 votes.
[00:14:04] Mehmet Kaplan, the candidate of the Democratic Lawyers Change
[00:14:07] Group, received 427 votes.
[00:14:10] "I promise that I will manage this bar with all our colors.
[00:14:13] I promise that I will leave this podium, which I came to
[00:14:17] with applause, with applause." After the multi-bar law,
[00:14:21] which came into force in July 2020,
[00:14:25] the Istanbul No. 2 Bar Association, which was established, also held
[00:14:28] its presidential election. Three candidates competed in
[00:14:31] the election. Rıza Saka received 1022 votes.
[00:14:35] Ali Kasım Tuna received 1016 votes.
[00:14:38] Murat Güneş received 51 votes. Tuna, who was supported
[00:14:42] by the AKP and MHP, lost the elections according
[00:14:45] to the results. Rıza Saka, who was supported
[00:14:48] by groups in Istanbul and lawyers of Milli Görüş
[00:14:51] origin, won the election. After the results,
[00:14:55] cries of "Allahu Akbar" rose.
[00:14:58] Tuna, who was 6 votes behind his opponent in the
[00:15:02] election where a total of 31 votes were deemed invalid,
[00:15:06] said that they did not accept the results and announced that they objected
[00:15:10] to the election board. Now let's continue with
[00:15:14] the Head of Ankara No. 2 Bar Association. Gökhan Ağdemir
[00:15:17] participated in a program on live television,
[00:15:21] made statements there, and so to speak,
[00:15:25] he virtually confessed to ministerial favoritism.
[00:15:28] He said that they referred 70 members to ministries
[00:15:31] and enabled them to become judges and prosecutors.
[00:15:35] Of course, when you look at the reactions that started
[00:15:38] to be discussed, the reactions of "Is the No. 2
[00:15:42] Bar Association a bar that guarantees judgeships
[00:15:44] and prosecutorships?" came to the forefront. But
[00:15:48] Özgür Çelik made a different and striking statement.
[00:15:51] He was also a guest on Halk TV this morning.
[00:15:54] He asked, "How many of these are assigned to municipal
[00:15:58] cases?" That is, Özgür Çelik asked how many
[00:16:02] of those 70 personnel or perhaps more,
[00:16:06] are assigned to municipal cases.
[00:16:10] The ministry granted us a privilege.
[00:16:13] It gave privilege to 70 lawyers to become judges
[00:16:17] and prosecutors. He says, "We became a reference."
[00:16:20] "We became a reference. We mediated." Now, how can this be taken
[00:16:23] out of context? That is, what has Turkey been
[00:16:26] discussing for many years, Deniz Bey? The issue of interviews,
[00:16:30] right? Promises were made before the elections. It was said that interviews
[00:16:34] would be abolished. People take KPSS exams.
[00:16:37] They get high scores in certain proportions, but those
[00:16:41] who get low scores become teachers, prosecutors,
[00:16:45] judges instead of others because they have political
[00:16:48] connections in Ankara. They work in various positions
[00:16:51] in the state. This is exactly the point where
[00:16:55] Turkey says that when we talk about the politicization
[00:16:59] of the judiciary, the trust in the judiciary
[00:17:02] in Turkey today has fallen below 20%.
[00:17:06] In the cases in Silivri, the president of the court
[00:17:09] committee is in my and your age range on average,
[00:17:12] but when you look at the members next to him,
[00:17:16] young judges aged 22, 23, 25 are serving there.
[00:17:19] Now, of course, young people should serve in important areas,
[00:17:23] the way should be opened for young people, this is a separate
[00:17:26] issue, but first, those judges should serve in different
[00:17:29] cases, and after gaining a certain experience,
[00:17:33] they should be able to look at the most important cases
[00:17:36] in the 103-year history of the Republic, such as
[00:17:39] the IBB case. Therefore, as the Istanbul Provincial
[00:17:42] Chairman, I ask and wonder, how many lawyers did the
[00:17:45] No. 2 Bar Association in Istanbul mediate for
[00:17:48] in terms of judgeship and prosecutorship?
[00:17:52] How many of these, in some way,
[00:17:56] in the municipal operations, in the arrests
[00:17:59] in the municipal operations...
[00:18:08] again seen in this process that twisting a statement
[00:18:12] out of context and distorting it to different
[00:18:15] meanings, creating a perception based on certain
[00:18:19] expressions, and reducing two years of effort
[00:18:22] to a single discussion leads to deliberate
[00:18:26] and malicious distortions," he said. His statements were
[00:18:29] extremely clear, quite clear. It was a speech he made
[00:18:32] on a television program, but he said it like this.
[00:18:35] He made a similar statement
[00:18:37] the other day as well. He said, "The success of our
[00:18:41] bar associations and our young colleagues in the legal profession
[00:18:44] is being made a tool of these discussions."
[00:18:47] He said, "For this reason, in order to prevent
[00:18:50] the discussions created in the public against
[00:18:54] me from harming the institution I represent any further,
[00:18:57] to protect the reputation of our bar association,
[00:19:01] and to prevent the ethical values of the legal
[00:19:05] profession from becoming a tool for cheap politics
[00:19:08] any further, I announce to the public
[00:19:12] that I have decided to withdraw from my candidacy for the chairmanship of the Ankara
[00:19:16] No. 2 Bar Association." Now we will discuss
[00:19:19] this and more. Of course, the words here are also
[00:19:22] striking. He said, "in order to prevent the ethical values of the legal
[00:19:26] profession from becoming a tool for cheap politics
[00:19:29] any further," but are we already talking
[00:19:33] about the politicization of the judiciary here,
[00:19:36] when we look at his initial statements? we will also ask.
[00:19:40] Lawyer Avşin Natipoğlu is with us. Welcome.
[00:19:43] Hello, good broadcast, glad to be here. Thank you.
[00:19:47] Now, the statements of the Head
[00:19:49] of Ankara No. 2 Bar Association, which he made on a television
[00:19:52] program, fell like a bomb on the agenda.
[00:19:55] He said, "My words were taken out of context."
[00:19:59] Well, do you think they were taken out of context,
[00:20:02] because he draws attention to the same point in this statement
[00:20:05] as well? At the same time, he said that he withdrew
[00:20:09] his candidacy. But it seems that
[00:20:12] the issue should not be closed with his withdrawal
[00:20:16] from candidacy. What do you say?
[00:20:19] If it was taken out of context, why did he resign then,
[00:20:22] why did he withdraw his candidacy? He shouldn't have withdrawn,
[00:20:26] he should have insisted. Also, there is a wordplay there,
[00:20:30] he withdrew his candidacy, he is still the head
[00:20:33] of the No. 2 bar association, isn't he? Gökhan Aydemir is
[00:20:40] the head of the No. 2 bar association, as far as I know.
[00:20:43] This means he has not resigned from his current bar presidency,
[00:20:47] he has only withdrawn his candidacy. Let's put this on record.
[00:20:51] If it was taken out of context and he is innocent and a victim
[00:20:54] in this matter, he shouldn't have resigned then.
[00:20:57] As Gizem Hanım says, "the tongue stumbles, the truth emerges."
[00:21:01] Here, a surprise occurred.
[00:21:03] Getting carried away by the charm of words
[00:21:07] on live television revealed the truth,
[00:21:11] and this was seen. They were embarrassed.
[00:21:14] With the emergence of the things they did in the
[00:21:16] background, this picture emerged before
[00:21:20] us. They couldn't stand behind it and had to resign,
[00:21:24] or rather, run again. The purpose
[00:21:27] of establishing the No. 2 bar associations was clear.
[00:21:30] The Istanbul Bar Association also considers itself
[00:21:33] the bar association of the Ummah.
[00:21:37] Bar associations are constitutional organizations
[00:21:39] that are organized to protect the rights
[00:21:43] of lawyers, to support them in continuing
[00:21:47] their professional lives, and in this context,
[00:21:51] to protect human rights, and to provide people
[00:21:54] with the law they need. They are not
[00:21:57] for the Ummah or any ideology or
[00:22:01] a nation, but rather places that are at the center
[00:22:04] of humanity, protecting the rights of humanity.
[00:22:08] For this reason, bar associations should be
[00:22:12] free from all ideologies, they should be plain, they should be
[00:22:15] nesten. Bar associations should not be used
[00:22:19] as a transitional stage to judgeship and prosecutorship.
[00:22:22] With such confessions, we clearly saw how
[00:22:25] the AK Party government has governed us for 25
[00:22:29] years, and by what methods
[00:22:32] and with what kind of people it has worked. The public
[00:22:36] also saw this. So, is there proof of favoritism?
[00:22:39] Well, here's the proof. He confessed, and then he resigned.
[00:22:43] This is a clear document, a clear
[00:22:46] document that names close to the AK Party government
[00:22:50] were made judges and prosecutors. It's a document of evidence,
[00:22:54] because it wasn't denied, Gizem Hanım.
[00:22:57] The Ministry of Justice didn't deny it. When I say
[00:23:00] the Ministry of Justice didn't deny it,
[00:23:03] actually the main addressee of the issue is the HSK,
[00:23:07] but the Minister of Justice Akın Gürlek is at the head
[00:23:10] of the HSK anyway. No, justice,
[00:23:13] the Ministry of Justice does it. I was eliminated
[00:23:16] from the judgeship interview. Both judgeship and governorship.
[00:23:39] The Ministry of Interior conducts the governorship interview,
[00:23:43] and the Ministry of Justice conducts the judgeship interview.
[00:23:46] Well, now, you know that in recent weeks
[00:23:50] we have been asking, "Who are the fund fraudsters?"
[00:23:54] Just as we haven't received an answer to that,
[00:23:57] as far as I understand, in the coming period,
[00:24:00] we will continue to ask, "Who are these 70 people
[00:24:04] in Ankara?" Will there be an answer to this,
[00:24:08] and I wonder, who are these 70 people,
[00:24:11] and who mediated for these 70 people,
[00:24:14] and what positions are they currently holding?
[00:24:18] I think this should be shared with the public,
[00:24:22] I should say. I was eliminated from six
[00:24:25] interviews, from six different institutions
[00:24:28] and professions. One of them was administrative
[00:24:32] judiciary judgeship. events, these are not very secretive
[00:24:35] events, they are all out in the open, everything is in
[00:24:38] front of everyone's eyes, everyone
[00:24:41] knows this, here, it's not about discussing a person's
[00:24:44] entry into that profession over the judiciary, of course this should be discussed,
[00:24:48] that's right, for example, Mr. ____'s statement is a scandal, this
[00:24:52] is a separate issue, this is also a scandal because
[00:24:55] it's about luring lawyers, so to speak, they are trying to gather
[00:24:59] members, they are telling young lawyers that if you choose
[00:25:02] Bar Association No. 2, this is also a career stage for judges and prosecutors
[00:25:06] at the same time, this is the message implicitly given, this is what
[00:25:10] they essentially want to convey, for example, the losing member of Bar Association No. 2
[00:25:14] in Istanbul, the losing member in Istanbul, our colleague
[00:25:17] said, our goal is to reach 7 members. Now, how will I reach
[00:25:21] 7,000 members, is this a cooperative? How will I reach 7,000 members? There is a logic
[00:25:24] to this, the bar association profession, the bar
[00:25:28] organization, the legal profession requires highly qualified
[00:25:31] people, moreover, in Istanbul Bar Association No. 1,
[00:25:34] are in the archives and system of the Ministry
[00:25:38] of Justice, just like all judges and prosecutors,
[00:25:41] all governors, and won. Our colleague
[00:25:45] who won there became a candidate 5
[00:25:47] days ago and won in 5 days. Is it an election? This
[00:25:51] is a government that loses elections everywhere, so they lost
[00:25:55] here too. Now, to answer your question, we need to look at this here,
[00:25:58] uh, the judiciary and courts, judges
[00:26:02] and prosecutors. "They are admitted to the profession with different
[00:26:05] procedures and principles, this does not mean, let's explain that too,
[00:26:09] these corrupt practices, these nepotism practices have lasted for
[00:26:13] 25 years, so they are always discussed through the AK Party,
[00:26:16] because it lasted so long, 25 years ago, in the recruitment
[00:26:19] of judges, prosecutors, inspectors, and district governors,
[00:26:22] the government officials of that time also resorted to this,
[00:26:26] that's why interviews should be abolished, so that no one
[00:26:29] else can resort to this and enter." We need
[00:26:33] to ask, how do we conduct the TUS exam, how do we select
[00:26:37] pediatricians, general surgeons, neurosurgeons, ophthalmologists?
[00:26:40] Medical faculty graduates take the exam, get their score, are placed
[00:26:44] in their specialty, go, and do their job, right? You also introduce an exam here,
[00:26:47] at most you put a security investigation,
[00:26:51] and you admit them to the profession according to their score ranking. Look,
[00:26:54] wherever there are people, these kinds of things are
[00:26:57] always done, human beings,
[00:27:01] because April, rebellion like that, everywhere, this
[00:27:04] and that, slowly starts to move, it has
[00:27:08] such a relaxed structure. It's not possible for these things
[00:27:11] not to happen in a 25-year government. Whoever
[00:27:14] takes power, they will do similar things. One must be rational,
[00:27:17] one must be reasonable. Whoever comes, they will resort to these things.
[00:27:21] That's why this interview business should be completely abolished. But
[00:27:25] since judges and prosecutors are recruited with a certain
[00:27:28] procedure and principle, saying that they act completely
[00:27:31] under the government's control would be an excessive interpretation, not a correct interpretation,
[00:27:35] one needs to look at it on a case-by-case basis, on a file-by-file basis, on a topic-by-topic basis,
[00:27:39] here, one should not leave an entire professional
[00:27:42] group under suspicion, as a lawyer, at least,
[00:27:46] I am not a politician, as a lawyer I would like to maintain that line,
[00:27:50] the fact that this resignation followed this scandal
[00:27:52] is something we are not used to in our country, and I congratulate
[00:27:56] him for that, that is, he made a mistake here,
[00:27:59] the mistake has been beneficial for the public's information, but this...
[00:28:03] through this, he has let down his own bar association,
[00:28:06] his own friends, and he has withdrawn from his position
[00:28:09] by saying he will not run again, which is extremely
[00:28:13] appropriate, it should be evaluated in this way, absolutely.
[00:28:16] Thank you very much, Afşin Hatipoğlu, for joining us
[00:28:19] and for your contributions. Thank you.
[00:28:23] Dear viewers, Ankara Bar Association No. 2 President Gökhan Ağdemir said
[00:28:26] that his words were taken out of context,
[00:28:30] that he mediated 70 lawyers
[00:28:32] becoming judges and prosecutors, that they gave references, he had
[00:28:36] openly stated this, and as we said, he withdrew
[00:28:39] from his candidacy about half an hour ago,
[00:28:43] we have evaluated that too. Now, on the one hand,
[00:28:46] we are talking about politics, on the other hand, the legal system,
[00:28:50] the intertwining of events there, the politicization
[00:28:53] of the judiciary, and another aspect of this is undoubtedly
[00:28:57] the press, and when we talk about the press in Turkey,
[00:29:00] we are talking about press freedom. The pressures on press and freedom
[00:29:04] of expression in Turkey were revealed by the September report
[00:29:07] prepared by Utku Çakırözer, Vice President
[00:29:11] of the New Party.
[00:29:11] Who will apologize
[00:29:16] for what has been done to journalists, whose profession is to report news,
[00:29:19] to people whose profession is to ask questions? Utku Çakırözer,
[00:29:23] Vice President of the New Party responsible for Media, shared
[00:29:26] the Press Freedom report revealing the violations
[00:29:30] in the last two months. According to the report,
[00:29:33] in September, journalists appeared before judges at least 50 times
[00:29:37] and access was blocked to approximately 1,350,000
[00:29:40] social media accounts. The AK Party government is usurping the public's
[00:29:44] right to information by arresting journalists, imposing house
[00:29:47] arrest, and blocking access to news websites and social media accounts.
[00:29:51] Censorship and judicial pressure have now turned into a systematic
[00:29:54] form of governance, not an exceptional one. In the century's
[00:29:58] prominent fund crisis, it is not those who defrauded the nation,
[00:30:01] but the journalists who exposed them who are arrested.
[00:30:04] In the last 2 months, many journalists, from Oya Lale Özan Arslan,
[00:30:08] Ali Tarakçı, Tuğba Terek to Selahattin Günday and
[00:30:11] Fatih Ergin, have been arrested and sent to prison. The report
[00:30:15] included not only judicial decisions but also physical
[00:30:18] and verbal attacks that journalists faced in the field. Reporters
[00:30:22] covering news were detained. Cameramen were attacked.
[00:30:25] Many names, including İsmail Arı, Canan Coşkun,
[00:30:28] Kazım Kızıl, Ruşen Çakır, faced investigations and
[00:30:32] lawsuits due to their news and statements.
[00:30:36] Utku Çakır Özer
[00:30:37] also laid
[00:30:40] bare the toll of digital censorship in his press report.
[00:30:44] In September, 1350 social media accounts were
[00:30:47] blocked. While news websites like T24 Evrensel Kısadalga
[00:30:51] were blocked, social media accounts that reported access
[00:30:54] blocks with documents were also blocked.
[00:30:57] Access was blocked
[00:31:00] to dozens of news stories that closely concerned
[00:31:03] the public, from the fund crisis to the documentary
[00:31:07] Şeytantepe, which covered the Narin Güren murder and the Rojin
[00:31:11] Kabehiş file. Çakırözer stated that the accounts
[00:31:15] of rights organizations and economists were also
[00:31:19] targeted, saying
[00:31:19] that where the press is silenced,
[00:31:24] the public's right to information is destroyed. Now that we are
[00:31:27] talking about press freedom, let's continue with comedian Deniz
[00:31:31] Göktaş. He had a stand-up show, he had been doing it for years,
[00:31:35] he uploaded it to YouTube. Afterwards, as you know, the arrest
[00:31:38] and trial process began. He remained in prison for 88
[00:31:41] days. Now he has given an interview to the New York Times, saying
[00:31:45] he doesn't regret it for a second. He also shared and conveyed
[00:31:48] his experiences during his time
[00:31:49] in prison. Here are the
[00:31:53] details. Comedian Deniz Göktaş spoke for the first time about
[00:31:57] his experiences in prison, saying he didn't regret it for a second.
[00:32:01] "I am very happy to be reunited with my family, my mother,
[00:32:04] my father, my friends." Deniz Göktaş was arrested in June, just
[00:32:07] one week after publishing his show on YouTube,
[00:32:11] on charges including insulting the president. He remained
[00:32:15] in prison for 88 days. After his release, he gave
[00:32:18] his first interview to the New York Times. He announced that he had written
[00:32:22] a new 20-minute show during his days in prison.
[00:32:25] "Will we see you on stage again in stand-up shows?" "I don't know,
[00:32:28] let me see, let me write something." Did Deniz Göktaş expect
[00:32:32] to be released at the first hearing? "I did not expect to be released.
[00:32:35] I felt a great leap. Everyone who read my defense, my lawyers
[00:32:39] and those around me told me that this defense could cause
[00:32:42] me to stay in prison a little longer. My priority was not
[00:32:46] to get out as soon as possible." Deniz Göktaş underlined
[00:32:49] in his defense that he did not want to take an apologetic stance.
[00:32:53] He said he wanted to set an example for other comedians.
[00:32:56] "You can speak freely, you don't have to be afraid.
[00:33:00] I wanted to show that there is nothing an artist cannot endure
[00:33:03] for the sake of defending a principle,"
[00:33:07] he said. Deniz Göktaş stated that he had started
[00:33:10] to self-censor in his shows before going to prison,
[00:33:14] and that this disturbed him. He also explained
[00:33:17] why he thought this way. "The people who came to my shows,
[00:33:20] students, retirees, acted more courageously
[00:33:24] than me in their daily lives, while I was becoming more and more
[00:33:28] cowardly. This made me feel hypocritical. To feel better,
[00:33:31] I started saying everything I found funny again, without thinking
[00:33:35] about the consequences. It might sound romantic, but on my first
[00:33:38] day in my cell, I had the best sleep of my life." Was Göktaş
[00:33:42] sorry for the show that led to his arrest? To this question,
[00:33:46] he replied, "I didn't regret it for a second. It was the time
[00:33:49] in my life when I felt the least alone. Of course,
[00:33:53] it's great to be outside, I missed it a lot, but inside or outside
[00:33:56] doesn't make much of a difference. I hope a time will come when we can all
[00:34:00] be free."
[00:34:06] Now let's look at the Middle East. The conflicts and attacks
[00:34:09] between the Houthis and Saudi Arabia are now even more
[00:34:13] concerning to us. As you know, due to the Mecca Agreement,
[00:34:16] the agreement is expected to come to the Grand National
[00:34:20] Assembly of Turkey this week. Since the weekend, Houthi
[00:34:23] attacks against Saudi Arabia
[00:34:27] have continued. The King Khalid International Airport
[00:34:30] in Riyadh was attacked for the second time. In
[00:34:34] the first attack, 13 people died and 308 people
[00:34:37] were injured. In the latest attack, one person
[00:34:40] lost their life. 11 people were injured. The images
[00:34:43] of the latest attack...
[00:34:55] The first moments of the attack on King Khalid
[00:34:58] International Airport in Riyadh, the capital
[00:35:01] of Saudi Arabia,
[00:35:02] on Saturday.
[00:35:05] Al Arabiya television also broadcast security camera
[00:35:09] footage of the attack. A violent explosion
[00:35:11] occurred in the area where passengers were waiting
[00:35:15] to board their planes for Umrah. In
[00:35:19] this attack, at least 13 people died and hundreds
[00:35:22] were injured.
[00:35:25] One day after the attack claimed by the Houthis
[00:35:28] in Yemen, the airport was targeted again. On Sunday,
[00:35:31] ammunition that hit Terminal 4 caused a fire.
[00:35:35] In this attack, one person died and 11 people
[00:35:39] were injured.
[00:35:49] An additional warning was reiterated
[00:35:52] that all airports in Saudi Arabia, except Mecca and Medina,
[00:35:56] are
[00:35:58] potential targets. After the Houthis
[00:36:02] seized strategic areas on the Red Sea coast last
[00:36:04] month, Saudi
[00:36:08] Arabia had intensified its military
[00:36:11] operations
[00:36:15] in Yemen. United States President Donald Trump
[00:36:19] said on Saturday that America could also participate
[00:36:22] in attacks against the Houthis. America currently provides
[00:36:26] intelligence and targeting support to Saudi Arabia.
[00:36:29] There are also approximately 200 American military
[00:36:32] advisors in the country.
[00:36:35] Turkey, Egypt, and Pakistan made a joint statement
[00:36:38] with Saudi Arabia, condemning the attacks. They supported
[00:36:42] the measures taken to protect Riyadh's security. Iran,
[00:36:46] on the other hand, offered to help facilitate dialogue
[00:36:49] between Saudi Arabia
[00:36:50] and Yemen.
[00:36:57] Dear viewers, we will discuss this issue shortly. Also,
[00:37:01] speaking of the Middle East, of course, the US-Iran war,
[00:37:04] the latest situation there, and most importantly, we will
[00:37:08] ask if the Strait of Hormuz will finally open. But speaking
[00:37:11] of the Strait of Hormuz and the United States,
[00:37:14] an important statement came from US President Trump:
[00:37:18] he said that a ceasefire in the energy sector had been
[00:37:22] achieved between Russia and Ukraine. He had made calls on this issue
[00:37:25] before, as you know, but Ukraine didn't really listen. Kyiv
[00:37:28] first said they had no news. After overcoming it, they sent
[00:37:31] a message of support after
[00:37:33] Trump's latest statements.
[00:37:37] Here are the details. United States President
[00:37:40] Donald Trump announced that Russia and Ukraine
[00:37:43] had agreed on an energy ceasefire, meaning
[00:37:46] they would not attack each other's energy facilities
[00:37:49] and energy infrastructure.
[00:37:52] Trump, who announced the news with a social media
[00:37:56] message, wrote that both sides had accepted
[00:37:59] the ceasefire. However, the reactions from the two sides of the ceasefire
[00:38:03] raised questions.
[00:38:06] The first to react was Ukrainian leader Volodymyr
[00:38:10] Zelensky, who first stated that he had no knowledge
[00:38:12] of the ceasefire Trump mentioned. But he added
[00:38:15] that he was open to such
[00:38:18] an idea. Zelensky, who met with his European allies,
[00:38:22] made another statement shortly after. He announced
[00:38:24] that they supported the ceasefire, saying, "This is good news
[00:38:28] for everyone." He noted that they were awaiting
[00:38:32] further details from America.
[00:38:36] In his message announcing the agreement, Trump had stated
[00:38:39] that the ceasefire would take effect immediately. Moscow,
[00:38:42] which has not yet commented on the matter, in a sense,
[00:38:45] gave its answer on the ground. Zelensky announced that
[00:38:49] the energy plant in Kharkiv, Ukraine, had been targeted
[00:38:53] by Russia in the evening. On the other hand,
[00:38:57] the Ukrainian leader also responded to Trump's words,
[00:39:00] who had criticized him.
[00:39:02] Zelensky had called Trump's
[00:39:04] agreement with his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin
[00:39:08] on diesel supply on Friday a sign of weakness.
[00:39:12] Trump had retaliated by saying, "Ukrainians
[00:39:15] should elect another leader." Speaking to the American press,
[00:39:18] Zelensky continued the polemic.
[00:39:22] He argued that it was not possible to hold elections
[00:39:24] in Ukraine due to wartime conditions.
[00:39:28] Addressing Trump, he said, "Convince
[00:39:31] Putin to a 60-day ceasefire, and we will hold
[00:39:35] the election." Dear viewers, now let's
[00:39:37] turn to the United States.
[00:39:41] Serra Karaçam is with us. Undoubtedly, the recent attacks
[00:39:45] on Saudi Arabia, the targeting of the airport,
[00:39:49] the casualties, and the images are very striking. This affects
[00:39:52] Turkey extra. Why? Because the Mecca Agreement
[00:39:55] may come to parliament this week. How should we view
[00:39:59] both these attacks and what kind of responsibility
[00:40:03] a possible Mecca Agreement will place on us? Let's
[00:40:06] start with that. Serra Karaçam is with us. Welcome, Serra,
[00:40:10] I hand the floor over to you. Yes, thank you.
[00:40:14] In the new attack, one person died. The day before, 13
[00:40:17] people had died in the attacks that took place
[00:40:20] on Saturday. More than 300 people were injured.
[00:40:24] Of course, the targeting of the passenger terminal
[00:40:27] is particularly important, especially when an important
[00:40:30] energy conference is about to take place in Riyadh.
[00:40:34] The Houthis' claim of responsibility
[00:40:37] is another important perspective, of course,
[00:40:40] because they usually deny it,
[00:40:44] as you know. I think there's a problem with the connection,
[00:40:47] while my colleagues check it, let me reiterate to our viewers
[00:40:51] what we're talking about. Now, the war in the Middle East,
[00:40:55] the attacks between the US and Iran, and Israel's
[00:40:58] aggressive stance. We continue to discuss this. At least
[00:41:02] in terms of a live and active war, we haven't seen an attack
[00:41:06] for a long time, but the focus of the attacks seems to be shifting
[00:41:09] more towards the Houthis and the Saudi Arabian region.
[00:41:13] Now, we're already talking about the Strait of Hormuz, as you
[00:41:16] know, for a long time, along with the increasing
[00:41:19] fuel prices, oil prices, and the economic difficulties
[00:41:23] we are experiencing especially in Turkey, are these problems and difficulties
[00:41:40] and for that reason, slowly it seems we will start
[00:41:43] talking about the Bab el-Mandeb Strait as well.
[00:41:46] As Serra just mentioned, on Saturday, during the weekend,
[00:41:50] the Houthis carried out an attack on King Khalid
[00:41:53] International Airport in Riyadh, the capital
[00:41:57] of Saudi Arabia. They also claimed responsibility for
[00:42:01] the attack, and 13 people died and 308 people
[00:42:04] were injured in that attack. Serra drew attention to
[00:42:08] an important detail earlier.
[00:42:10] There was a very important
[00:42:14] conference to be held here, many international experts
[00:42:18] were expected to come from abroad. She said that
[00:42:21] it was quite striking that such a thing happened
[00:42:24] before that. 13 people died and 308 people were injured.
[00:42:28] Now, immediately after this attack, another attack
[00:42:31] was carried out on the airport. This time, one person died
[00:42:34] and 11 people were injured. So, a total of 14
[00:42:37] people died in Saudi Arabia and 319 people were injured.
[00:42:40] The images of the attacks were also quite striking.
[00:42:44] The Houthis claimed responsibility for the attacks,
[00:42:48] and also announced that they would continue
[00:42:50] their attacks in the region, except for Mecca and Medina.
[00:42:54] So, what awaits us in the region in the coming
[00:42:58] days is a critical situation. There is also this situation:
[00:43:02] while Turkey, Egypt, Pakistan, and the United States continue
[00:43:06] their support for Saudi Arabia and their harsh
[00:43:10] rhetoric against the Houthis and Yemen, the Mecca
[00:43:13] Pact or Agreement discussed between Turkey,
[00:43:16] Pakistan, and Saudi Arabia has not yet come to the Turkish
[00:43:19] Grand National Assembly and has not been approved,
[00:43:22] and we do not know its articles. Therefore, the debate
[00:43:26] there continues, but the fact that these attacks have increased
[00:43:29] so much in these days when we expect the Mecca
[00:43:32] Agreement to come to Parliament this week also concerns
[00:43:35] us. Dear viewers, Serra from the United States was
[00:43:39] with us. As you know, we had a problem with the connection
[00:43:42] and unfortunately, our time is limited right now.
[00:43:46] Since we couldn't reconnect, I'd like to continue with
[00:43:50] the news we want to convey to you. Now, let me ask
[00:43:53] my director Ali, a ship drifted in Kanlıca. The Malta-flagged
[00:43:57] ship carrying chemical substances, which was going
[00:44:00] from Bulgaria to Italy,
[00:44:02] drifted off Kanlıca and
[00:44:10] managed to stop meters from the shore. The captain
[00:44:14] sounded the alarm for minutes, but those on the shore
[00:44:17] watched the moments
[00:44:19] like this, some
[00:44:23] recorded it on their mobile phones. The Malta-flagged
[00:44:26] ship carrying chemical substances was en route from Bulgaria to Italy.
[00:44:30] Due to a malfunction,
[00:44:34] it drifted off Kanlıca. The moments the 110-meter-long
[00:44:38] ship drifted were captured on camera like this. There is a tanker
[00:44:42] in front of Kanlıca that had
[00:44:45] an engine failure, and it is currently
[00:44:48] drifting. Hopefully, nothing
[00:44:51] bad will happen. Teams from the Coastal
[00:44:55] Security Directorate were dispatched to the area.
[00:44:58] Tugs were deployed, and ship traffic in the Bosphorus
[00:45:01] was stopped.
[00:45:02] It has dropped anchor.
[00:45:10] The ship moved forward meters. By chance, the ship
[00:45:14] stopped meters from the shore. At that moment, the citizens
[00:45:17] on the shore were also recording
[00:45:22] with their mobile phones. With the efforts of the teams,
[00:45:26] the ship was anchored
[00:45:27] in Küçükçekmece. Bosphorus
[00:45:30] traffic returned to normal. We talked about the flood
[00:45:34] disaster in Nepal in the summer, hundreds of people had lost
[00:45:37] their lives. The images were terrible, as you know.
[00:45:40] The country has again fallen victim to natural
[00:45:44] disasters. Disturbing
[00:45:45] images have again emerged
[00:45:52] from the country. Nepal. Pitch-black mud and
[00:45:56] water swallowed houses one by one. The East Asian
[00:45:59] country Nepal experienced
[00:46:05] a disaster once again. In the flood caused by a river
[00:46:08] overflowing in the central parts of the country,
[00:46:11] and suspension bridges were swept away, a hydroelectric
[00:46:14] power plant was damaged, and the water level in the river
[00:46:17] reportedly rose from 2 meters to 8.5 meters within
[00:46:21] a few hours.
[00:46:24] The Nepalese army announced that 95 people, including
[00:46:28] 9 foreigners, had been rescued, and 5 people were still
[00:46:31] missing. The death toll has not yet
[00:46:34] been clarified.
[00:46:37] Nepalese authorities stated that more than 200
[00:46:41] houses were damaged and more than 650 people were affected by the flood.
[00:46:45] Land connection to some settlements was completely
[00:46:48] cut off.
[00:46:49] Two months ago,
[00:46:53] Nepal also experienced a flood disaster that caused
[00:46:56] the death of more than 1400 people and the disappearance
[00:47:00] of thousands.
[00:47:01] Experts attribute
[00:47:05] the increased frequency of floods to climate change accelerating
[00:47:09] the melting of glaciers in the Himalayas.
[00:47:12] Dear viewers, we are now
[00:47:16] going to Beyoğlu, the heart of Istanbul's multicultural
[00:47:20] memory. Here are images
[00:47:22] from Beyoğlu, where two major gatherings
[00:47:25] shed light on the city's Levantine heritage.
[00:47:28] Beyoğlu's historical
[01:00:04] We continue on Halk TV screens where we left off in parentheses. In
[01:00:07] this section, we will begin to discuss the fund
[01:00:10] scandal. Various
[01:00:13] investigations are ongoing. So what are their details?
[01:00:17] We will start to examine them, and at the same time, there were statements from Cevdet Yılmaz today,
[01:00:21] according to the statements, will public funds really
[01:00:25] not be used, how will payments be made, is the
[01:00:28] payment system announced so far fair, we will ask this, but
[01:00:32] let's start with the scandal part, the chief prosecutor's office
[01:00:35] announced that the accounts of 214 people,
[01:00:38] who were determined to have obtained an unfair gain of 187
[01:00:41] billion liras from the fund, were blocked. Now
[01:00:44] when we see the number, at least for those who
[01:00:48] deal with this issue, 187 billion seems
[01:00:52] quite a small figure for the scandal
[01:00:55] we are talking about, because when we look at the dates, it was
[01:00:59] between September 12-16, I think, the time period given for this unfair gain,
[01:01:03] but when we look at fund fraud. We have our guest,
[01:01:06] economist Kerim Rota, with us. Welcome, Mr. Kerim.
[01:01:10] Madam, I wish you good broadcasts. Thank September 16, we see
[01:01:13] that 401 billion liras evaporated. Now
[01:01:16] this is the happening in the investigations?
[01:01:20] Let the
[01:01:21] details come.
[01:01:25] In the fund investigation, classified documents were
[01:01:29] found to have been shared on social media. The Public
[01:01:32] you. Now there are hot launched an investigation against
[01:01:35] individuals deemed to have
[01:01:37] violated the confidentiality of the investigation.
[01:01:40] Fund investigations continue. In the examinations
[01:01:43] of the fund companies' accounts, names
[01:01:46] that made over 100 million profits were identified.
[01:01:49] developments since the weekend. the investigation file,
[01:01:52] 214 people, 141 of whom are natural
[01:01:56] persons and 73 are legal persons, made a total profit
[01:02:00] of 187 billion 653 million liras from
[01:02:04] 3 funds. The Istanbul Public Prosecutor's Office
[01:02:07] I want to discuss them with A travel ban
[01:02:10] was imposed on the individuals and company owners by
[01:02:13] court order.
[01:02:17] The financial data in the investigation file also attracted attention.
[01:02:21] According to the news in Sabah newspaper, approximately 401
[01:02:25] billion liras of you, evaluate them. First,
[01:02:28] Terra and Pusula funds between September 1-16. Accordingly, the total outflow
[01:02:32] was recorded as
[01:02:37] 401,266,791,742 liras.
[01:02:40] While fund investigations continue, the Savings
[01:02:43] Deposit Insurance Fund the investigation was mentioned.
[01:02:46] the liquidated funds. TMSF announced that it
[01:02:50] will recruit 75 personnel, including 10 fund auditor
[01:02:53] assistants, 45 fund expert assistants, and 20 fund
[01:02:56] lawyers.
[01:03:03] Now, frankly, in the investigations, both the judicial part and
[01:03:07] A call was made to 141 somewhat confusedly. Last
[01:03:11] Friday, Abdullah Güler shared the details of the
[01:03:14] draft law that was planned to be presented this week
[01:03:17] at the Grand National Assembly of Turkey. So he shared information
[01:03:21] about both the scam part and how the creditors
[01:03:24] real persons and three companies everyone had in mind was,
[01:03:27] undoubtedly, Abdullah Güler's attention to the right to
[01:03:31] not be stained, that is, he drew attention to the right
[01:03:35] to not be stained, saying "who are these fund swindlers,
[01:03:38] disclose them." Now, a list of
[01:03:41] to return, to voluntarily whose accounts were blocked
[01:03:44] is being discussed. It was expected that at least that list
[01:03:48] would be shared. Only 85 of them were shared.
[01:03:52] So far, we understand that it was deemed
[01:03:55] appropriate to share the names. Will we learn the rest? Let's
[01:03:58] pay, as you know, from Minister also had statements on the
[01:04:02] issue today. He touched upon the draft law. He shared
[01:04:05] details on how payments
[01:04:08] can be made up to a lira.
[01:04:10] Let's hear it. There are 7 companies and
[01:04:14] 131 problematic funds under of Justice Akın Gürlek. We are
[01:04:18] companies accepted ordinary liquidation conditions
[01:04:22] and were liquidated. Payments for
[01:04:24] approximately 44,000 citizens from these
[01:04:27] 455 have been made. Thus, 17
[01:04:31] funds have been taken out of circulation. talking about 187 billion
[01:04:34] there are about 2,000 people in the three liquidated
[01:04:38] institutions. The biggest ones are Fontera, Pusula,
[01:04:41] Hedef, and Atlas. Negotiations regarding Atlas are currently
[01:04:45] ongoing. Ordinary liquidation is possible.
[01:04:49] Neither in ordinary liquidation 653 million liras, and
[01:04:53] will public funds be used. You might ask what will be used if
[01:04:56] there are no public funds. Here, of course, our main principle
[01:05:00] is those who took out the net investment amount, and
[01:05:03] also those who engaged in illegal transactions. These
[01:05:06] two groups then information was shared
[01:05:10] up to 1 million, but we want to especially
[01:05:13] prioritize small investors and money market funds
[01:05:17] in this law. A large part of the 450,000
[01:05:21] we mentioned will be decided here by our
[01:05:23] parliament, and that their assets were seized
[01:05:26] implemented, the number of investors we are talking about
[01:05:30] will probably fall below 100,000. For these
[01:05:33] 131 funds, a special account has been opened for
[01:05:37] each fund, and a general account has also been opened.
[01:05:41] Both those who voluntarily by the TMSF. Now there excessive
[01:05:45] gains, and the income from the
[01:05:49] sale of assets of companies or individuals who have engaged
[01:05:52] in illegal transactions and obtained unfair
[01:05:56] gains will be collected are two important details here.
[01:05:59] From the general account, this resource
[01:06:03] will be distributed to these funds according to certain
[01:06:06] criteria. There are three sources. The first is the assets
[01:06:10] remaining in this fund. The second is the refunds
[01:06:13] to be made to these One is that 85 names
[01:06:16] is, as you know, measures have been taken against the assets
[01:06:20] of many responsible individuals. There are
[01:06:22] resources that will come from the liquidation of assets
[01:06:25] and their evaluation. So this will be financed
[01:06:29] from these three sources. There emerged later, of illegal
[01:06:33] transactions, market-distorting activities,
[01:06:36] and excessive income. If there
[01:06:40] is a return, even if there is no illegal
[01:06:43] transaction due to excessive income, there is nothing
[01:06:47] we were talking about 141 names. is an illegal
[01:06:50] transaction, responsibilities certainly do
[01:06:53] not cease. Now, of course,
[01:06:56] there is also the
[01:06:58] impact of the fraud on the laws, and it's a
[01:07:02] growing and continuing impact. Let me ask why 85 were announced.
[01:07:05] on the stock exchange is quite heavy. If you ask what happened,
[01:07:09] when we look at BIST 100, there is a
[01:07:12] 6.53% decrease. The number of investors who emptied
[01:07:15] their accounts exceeded 50,000. In September, the loss
[01:07:18] in stock portfolios reached The other important liras.
[01:07:22] The
[01:07:26] fund crisis hit the stock market, investors withdrew from stocks.
[01:07:30] Since
[01:07:34] September 16, when the fund investigation came to the agenda,
[01:07:37] the stock market continues to fall. In 23 days, the
[01:07:41] thing is that on Borsa Istanbul
[01:07:44] lost 6.53% of its value. The decrease in BIST 30
[01:07:46] was 3.63%. BIST 100
[01:07:50] fell from 13,122 points to 12,265 points.
[01:07:54] The index experienced we are talking about an excessive
[01:07:57] A decrease of 570 points was also recorded
[01:08:01] in BIST 30. The loss in the stock market
[01:08:04] was also reflected in investors' portfolios. According to the Central Registry Agency data,
[01:08:07] the total value of stock portfolios decreased by
[01:08:10] 5 trillion 330 billion liras gain of 187 billion
[01:08:13] The portfolio value, which was 22.9 trillion liras
[01:08:17] at the end of August, decreased to 17.58 trillion
[01:08:19] liras.
[01:08:22] Stock investors also withdrew from the market. In
[01:08:26] September, the number of investors who zeroed their
[01:08:29] based on the dates increased by 50,234. In
[01:08:33] investment funds, the number of investors who emptied their
[01:08:36] accounts increased by 1133 people.
[01:08:40] The total portfolio value of investment funds
[01:08:44] also decreased. The fund portfolios, which were 10 trillion
[01:08:48] between September 13-16, decreased to 9.264
[01:08:50] billion liras at the end of September. The loss in one
[01:08:53] month exceeded 1 trillion 171 billion
[01:08:55] liras.
[01:08:58] The sharpest loss was seen in large portfolio holders. The
[01:09:02] portfolio value of investors but don't we need to go back
[01:09:06] 10 million liras or more decreased by 14.39%. In
[01:09:10] the stock market, the portfolio value of investors
[01:09:13] with portfolios of 10 million liras or more decreased
[01:09:17] by 23.57%.
[01:09:20] A noticeable decrease was also experienced in foreign investors'
[01:09:23] further? investors' fund portfolios,
[01:09:26] which were 532 billion liras in August, decreased
[01:09:29] to 245 billion liras in September. The decrease reached
[01:09:33] 54%.
[01:09:36] Considering the index decreases in the period
[01:09:39] of September 16 - October 9, Madam Gizem, that is, if
[01:09:44] in stock portfolios is estimated
[01:09:45] to exceed 1 trillion liras.
[01:09:50] Now we will start to evaluate the latest details of the
[01:09:53] başlayacağız. Konuğumuz var,
[01:10:03] gelişmeler var hafta sonundan bu yana yaşanan. Sizinle birlikte ele almak
[01:10:06] istiyorum, değerlendirmek istiyorum. İlk başta soruşturmadan bahsedildi.
[01:10:10] 141 gerçek kişiyle. üç şirkete yönelik geri ödeyin,
[01:10:14] gönüllü ödeyin çağrısı geldi biliyorsunuz adalet bakanı Akın
[01:10:17] we call insider
[01:10:21] bahsediyoruz, sonrasında da TMSF tarafından mal
[01:10:24] varlıklarına el konulduğu bilgisi paylaşıldı. Şimdi burada önemli iki
[01:10:28] tane detay var. Biri sonrasında 85 isim ortaya
[01:10:31] çıktı, 141 isimden bahsediyorduk. Neden 85'i
[01:10:35] trading, the first
[01:10:38] 13-16 Eylül tarihleri arası baz alınarak bir
[01:10:42] faiş. kazançtan bahsediyoruz 187 milyar
[01:10:45] ama bizim daha da geriye doğru gitmemiz gerekmez mi diye sormuş
[01:10:49] olayım mutlaka Gizem hanım yani hani içeriden
[01:10:53] step that led to the
[01:10:55] bakıyorsak eee fonların aslında eee
[01:10:59] tasfiye olmasına yol açılan ilk adım eee kamu
[01:11:03] otoriteleri tarafından 28 ağustos'ta atıldı yani
[01:11:06] özür dilerim 28 Ağustos'tan sonra eee atılan adım aslında
[01:11:10] liquidation of the funds
[01:11:14] çıkanlar zaten çok önem taşıyor yani 28 ağustosla işte belki
[01:11:18] 10 Eylül arasında eee ama onun öncesi de önemli
[01:11:21] yani biliyorsunuz eee temmuz'un sonunda da sermaye
[01:11:24] piyasası kurulu bu fonlardaki gayrimenkul
[01:11:28] was taken by the public
[01:11:32] bir karardı dolayısıyla aslında eee bu tür
[01:11:34] adımların eee içeriden öğrenilip
[01:11:38] eee fonlardan çıkış yapılma tarihini bence çok geriye taşımak lazım.
[01:11:42] Yani bir de sadece eee bu değil bir de biliyorsunuz
[01:11:46] authorities on August 28.
[01:11:49] çıkarken kimlere sattılar, hangi tarihlerde ne kadarlık karlar
[01:11:52] ettiler, o yüzden her fonun yani tasfiyede
[01:11:56] olan ve normal tasfiye parasını
[01:11:59] ödeyememiş olan fonların yani yatırımcılarına para kaybettirmiş
[01:12:03] That is,
[01:12:07] gerekiyor, 141 kişi ve 73 şirket
[01:12:10] dendiğinde bir şey anlamamız mümkün değil. bizlerin yani
[01:12:13] 214 tane TC kimlik veya vergi numarasından
[01:12:17] bahsediyoruz, bunlar KVK gereği açıklanmıyor
[01:12:20] I apologize, the step
[01:12:23] eee ama şunu beklerdim yani
[01:12:26] gerçekten eee bu konuda çok samimi bir yaklaşım
[01:12:29] olsaydı eee bu kişilerin eee isimlerin soyatlarının baş
[01:12:32] harfleri veya bir başına bir numara konularak eee bu
[01:12:36] taken after August 28
[01:12:39] varlığına hangi hesap numarasında el kondu. ne
[01:12:42] kadarının takipte eee ne kadarı için de dava açıldı yani
[01:12:46] bunları takip etmek isterdik, illa isim açıklanmak zorunda değil ama şu
[01:12:50] anda bu 214 şirket ve kişiden eee ne
[01:12:53] was actually a preliminary
[01:12:57] kadar tahsil edileceğini hiç bilmiyoruz, yani insanın aklına da
[01:13:01] şu gelmiyor değil gizemanım eee bir bir noktadan
[01:13:04] sonra aradan belli bir zaman geçtikten sonra eee
[01:13:08] warning.
[01:13:11] ödeyecek, bazıları bunun pazarlığını mı yapacak, iskonto mu
[01:13:14] isteyecek eee gibi şeyler de insanın aklına gelmiyor değil, o
[01:13:17] yüzden illa isimlerin açıklanması şart değil
[01:13:21] ama azından bu 214 kişi ve şirket numaralandırılarak...
[01:13:25] Those who withdrew after that point
[01:13:28] yapıldığı, ne kadarının yapılacağı, ne kadarının yapılamadığının
[01:13:31] açıklanabilirdi, yani bunda da KVKK'ya veya lekelenme hakkına
[01:13:35] hiçbir eee şey gelmezdi, zarar
[01:13:38] gelmezdi, eee dolayısıyla sürecin hiç şeffaf
[01:13:40] are very important, that is,
[01:13:44] oluşabilecek eee bazı risklere de kapı açtığını
[01:13:47] düşünüyorum. Peki şimdi şu an hani kişiler
[01:13:51] açıklanmasa da hani azından parayı verdiler mi hani bu aşamaday.
[01:13:55] anladığım kadarıyla ama 187 milyar konuştuğumuz vurgun için
[01:13:58] between August 28 and perhaps
[01:14:02] eee şimdi sabahın haberiydi ama İstanbul Cumhuriyet Başsavcılığı'na da biraz
[01:14:06] dayandırmışlar sadece biraz daha geri gittiğimizde yani
[01:14:10] 13 Eylül tarihini 1 Eylül'e çektiğimiz zaman 1
[01:14:13] ila 16 Eylül tarihlerinde ve yine sadece tera ve
[01:14:17] September 10,
[01:14:20] 266 milyon çıkış tespit edildiği söylenmiş yani
[01:14:24] o gün 10 gün böyle geriye gittiğimizde belli bir süre
[01:14:27] sanırım vurgunun maliyeti de katlanarak artmaya
[01:14:31] devam edecek ama bugün Cevdet Yılmaz'ın açıklamaları da şu
[01:14:34] but the period before that is also
[01:14:37] gibi garanti vermedi, o sebeple de kamu kaynağı
[01:14:41] aktarılmayacak, kamu kaynağı aktarılmadan ya da varlık
[01:14:44] fonundan işlem yapılmadan bu meblağlar
[01:14:47] sizce karşılanabilecek mi? Şimdi bir
[01:14:51] important. As you know,
[01:15:03] o son 16 gündeki çıkış taleplerini söylüyor, bunlar
[01:15:07] gerçekten çıkabildiler mi, yoksa fonun içinde mi kaldılar, o konuda pek bir fikrimiz
[01:15:10] yok, yani yazıdan bu anlaşılmıyor,
[01:15:13] çıktılarsa bile ne kadarlık bir ana para karşılığında ne
[01:15:16] at the end of July,
[01:15:20] anlaşılmıyor, yani şimdi 100 milyon çekti diye birini
[01:15:23] suçlamak çok kolay. ama işte 90 milyon yatırmışsa ara 3
[01:15:26] ay geçtikten sonra 100 milyon çektiyse bambaşka bir
[01:15:29] kişiden eee ve bambaşka bir senaryodan bahsediyoruz
[01:15:32] the Capital Markets Board
[01:15:36] ama yani bir kriter koymadığınız zaman ee
[01:15:39] fahiş nedir eee işte tarih nedir başlayacağınız
[01:15:43] tarih nedir bunlarla ilgili hiçbir kriter koymadığınız zaman böyle
[01:15:46] e işte bir haber çıkıyor 187 milyar başka
[01:15:50] took a decision regarding
[01:15:53] milyar muhtemelen çak'. Yani biz bunları toplamakla hata da
[01:15:57] yapıyor olabiliriz eee o yüzden bir sis bulutunun içinde
[01:16:01] bizden eee bazı bilgileri alıp yorumlamamızı
[01:16:04] istiyorlar. Şeffaf olmakta fayda var yani Mehmet Şimşek
[01:16:07] the valuation of real estate
[01:16:10] Şeffaflık hesap verilebilirik uluslararası standartlar demişti. Şimdi
[01:16:14] bu kadar büyük bir soruşturmanın olduğu 20 milyar dolar gibi bir
[01:16:17] kayıptan bahsedilen bir soruşturmada insanların
[01:16:20] isimlerini ben tamam açıklamayın ama azından numaralandırın kim ne kadar
[01:16:24] funds, and this was an
[01:16:28] değilmiş, hepsini bilelim, bir standardın içine oturdum, biz de onun
[01:16:31] içinde bir hesap yapabilelim, böyle bunlar olmadığı sürece de
[01:16:35] dediğim gibi bir sis bulutunun içinde eee yorumlar yapmaya
[01:16:38] gayret ediyoruz, peki kamu kaynağı kısmına bir de şunu ekleyeyim
[01:16:42] important decision. Therefore,
[01:16:46] ev hissesini tera'dan almış, güncel fiyatlarla da
[01:16:49] yaklaşık 12 milyar Türk lirasından bahsediyoruz, tere
[01:16:53] aynı şekilde pusulaya da satış.
[01:16:58] Onda da muhakkak ki benzer bir durum yaşanacaktır. Cevdet Yılmaz kamu
[01:17:02] kaynağı aktarılmayacak diyor ama sanırım ilk kamu kaynağının aktarıldığını en azından
[01:17:05] actually,
[01:17:09] miyiz? Evet eee yine orada da bir sürü
[01:17:12] karartma var yani oradaki tabloda hisse fiyatı
[01:17:16] No. Just the amount of shares, that is, what
[01:17:20] percentage of the shares are in Emlak Katılım. Emlak Katılım,
[01:17:23] as you know, was in the process of acquiring even participation. I assume
[01:17:27] that the Competition Board, the BRSA
[01:17:30] permit, and the CMB permits have been issued,
[01:17:33] but Emlak Katılım should have made an announcement before
[01:17:36] acquiring these shares, which would have been transparent.
[01:17:40] This was not done. Perhaps it will be done tonight,
[01:17:43] perhaps tomorrow, but we need to know how much money it paid
[01:17:47] for these shares, because this is a public resource. Exactly. That is, Emlak Katılım,
[01:17:50] an affiliate of the Turkey Wealth Fund,
[01:17:54] I guess these two organizations, it could be three. How much public
[01:17:57] resources did it invest when acquiring
[01:18:00] these three organizations? Does it have any expected
[01:18:03] revenue in return, or are there more open positions
[01:18:07] in these acquired companies? Are there any deficits that need to be financed?
[01:18:11] We don't know any of this. So, the only clear
[01:18:13] information Mr. Cevdet Yılmaz gave us is this:
[01:18:17] there is no state guarantee on these. Yes, we all knew that anyway. Investors
[01:18:21] knew that too. Other than that, I unfortunately did not see any tangible
[01:18:24] information. So, Mr. Kerim, let me ask if you could
[01:18:27] see any tangible information in the possible
[01:18:30] draft law. Last Friday, Abdullah Güler made a statement,
[01:18:34] and some articles.
[01:18:46] Do you agree with the comments that the draft law
[01:18:49] is not clear? I agree 100%. So, Mr. Abdullah Güler
[01:18:53] is asked what will happen to those whose shares
[01:18:56] are blocked. He has no idea about this. He talks
[01:19:00] about completely different things, as an answer.
[01:19:03] I don't think the deputies who signed under this know what they signed.
[01:19:08] The experts within the Capital Markets Board
[01:19:11] must have made some calculations, but the aim is to
[01:19:15] reduce the number of heads, if you'll excuse my
[01:19:18] expression. That is, how can we get rid
[01:19:22] of 355,000 out of 455,000 people? They thought about this,
[01:19:26] made calculations in Excel accordingly, and a
[01:19:30] draft law was written accordingly. Therefore, this will happen.
[01:19:33] That is, the result of this will be very clear.
[01:19:36] Especially in problematic funds,
[01:19:39] that is, in funds that cannot pay 100%
[01:19:42] of the fund to their investors, and there seem to be about 10-15
[01:19:46] such funds, those with up to 1 million
[01:19:49] in principal investment, the definition of principal is not very clear,
[01:19:53] those with principal investment will be able to receive this,
[01:19:56] because the calculations show that it can pay up to 1 million,
[01:20:00] at least for money market funds. For
[01:20:04] other funds, like equity-heavy funds, we don't know if this 1 million exists.
[01:20:08] Because in one article, as you know, it says it starts small
[01:20:11] and goes up to 1 million, perhaps
[01:20:15] some funds don't even have the resources to pay this 1 million,
[01:20:19] no assets. Then it might have to stay much
[01:20:22] lower. It could be cut at 200-300
[01:20:26] thousand. I'm completely speculating.
[01:20:29] We can accept the lack of clarity in the
[01:20:33] draft law, but at least we would expect
[01:20:36] the CMB or Cevdet Yılmaz or Mehmet
[01:20:40] Şimşek to say, when making a statement, if this draft law is accepted
[01:20:44] this way, then this many people's problems will be solved,
[01:20:47] and these funds will have such and such a payment rate.
[01:20:51] Unfortunately, in some funds,
[01:20:54] those with up to 1 million will get their
[01:20:58] money back, but it seems that someone with 5 million
[01:21:02] or 6 million will also get 1 million. So, it's not clear,
[01:21:05] and it's also unfair, isn't it?
[01:21:09] I mean, under normal circumstances, how is a fund liquidated? According
[01:21:13] to the old practice, I'm not talking about blocked shares or anything
[01:21:17] like that. There's another problem there, but let's put that aside.
[01:21:20] There might be 100 million in the fund, but only
[01:21:24] 60 million in assets. Everyone gets 60%. This
[01:21:27] is normal. But with the new system,
[01:21:31] not everyone will get 60%. Some will get 100%, some 20%,
[01:21:35] some 5%. That is, how big.
[01:22:01] Looking at the markets in September, we also shared some details in our
[01:22:05] news.
[01:22:07] The number of people who zeroed out their portfolios in their stock
[01:22:11] accounts increased by 50,234
[01:22:13] in one month. We have been talking about the declines in our
[01:22:17] country for a while now. It's almost a month since we
[01:22:20] started talking about it. If we take September 11th
[01:22:24] as a baseline with Muhammet Yarız's escape, how do you see
[01:22:28] the past month in the market and the period until the
[01:22:31] end of the year, Mr. Kerim? Unfortunately,
[01:22:35] it seems that many small investors have left
[01:22:39] this dirty market unwillingly. I use this expression
[01:22:42] deliberately. In the past, there have been
[01:22:45] many crises in Turkey where savers were disappointed.
[01:22:49] Savings bonds in the 1960s, cooperative victims
[01:22:52] in the 1970s, banker victims in the 1980s,
[01:22:56] in the 1990s, as you know,
[01:22:59] an attempt was made to create savings
[01:23:03] through the state, and then that money, unfortunately,
[01:23:07] was not paid. It was eroded by inflation.
[01:23:10] These were housing assistance funds,
[01:23:14] banks that failed in the 1990s,
[01:23:17] banker victims. But in the stock market,
[01:23:20] we had not seen a risk other than price risk.
[01:23:23] Unfortunately, now in the stock and fund markets, we are facing
[01:23:27] a crisis where we encounter regulatory and supervisory risk
[01:23:30] in addition to price risk. This has tainted this market.
[01:23:34] Many small investors, unwilling to be here,
[01:23:38] have felt the need to withdraw their money to their banks
[01:23:41] or other intermediary institutions. Unfortunately,
[01:23:45] this loss of trust will continue to affect
[01:23:48] the perception of the stock market in the next few years.
[01:23:52] I don't know if it will have much effect on pricing,
[01:23:55] but in terms of the number of investors, it seems quite difficult for us
[01:23:59] to return to the old days. Thank you very much, Mr. Kerim, for your
[01:24:02] participation and contributions. I thank you, Ms. Gizem. Dear
[01:24:06] viewers, we evaluated the latest developments in the fund scandal
[01:24:09] with economist Kerim Rota. Now, I want to turn to politics
[01:24:13] and even municipalities. Let's continue with the Medicana file.
[01:24:16] Allegations of bribery against Şişli Mayor Resul
[01:24:20] Emrah Şohan have emerged. It is claimed that Medicana
[01:24:24] donated 4 million dollars to the municipality. Additionally, it is alleged that
[01:24:27] 4 million dollars was paid in cash to consultant Adem
[01:24:31] Altıntaş. Now, in court, Hüseyin Bozkurt,
[01:24:34] the owner of Medicana Hospitals,
[01:24:37] stated that Şahan did not demand any
[01:24:40] favors from him and did not direct
[01:24:43] him to Altıntaş. Şahan emphasized
[01:24:47] that the hospital license is under the authority
[01:24:50] of the Ministry of Health.
[01:24:54] In the Medicana file, which came up in the IBB case,
[01:24:58] bribery allegations were made against Şişli Mayor Resul Emrah Şan.
[01:25:01] Media organizations close to the government brought the file
[01:25:05] to the agenda with headlines like "Bribery Scheme".
[01:25:08] Şan's legal team drew attention to the statements
[01:25:11] given in court. In a system where laws, regulations,
[01:25:15] plans, and institutions have collapsed and become so complex,
[01:25:19] we now need a mobilization. In 2021, Medicana
[01:25:22] rented a building registered as an office in the land
[01:25:26] registry and with a building registration certificate under the
[01:25:30] amnesty law, to convert it into a hospital. During the process, obtaining
[01:25:33] architectural project approval and a certificate of conformity
[01:25:36] from the municipality came up.
[01:25:38] The Ministry of Health
[01:25:42] issued the hospital license. On June 5, 2024, Medicana
[01:25:45] management made a formal donation of 4 million dollars to Şişli
[01:25:49] Municipality. With this money, the municipality bought a cleaning
[01:25:52] fleet of 64 vehicles from the State Supply Office.
[01:25:55] According to the prosecution, on the same day, 4 million dollars
[01:25:59] was also given in cash to Adem Altıntaş, and a certificate
[01:26:01] of conformity was obtained from the municipality.
[01:26:05] In the IBB case, the owner and Chairman
[01:26:08] of the Board of Medicana Hospitals, Hüseyin Bozkurt,
[01:26:11] was asked if Resul Emrah Şahan had made any unfair demands.
[01:26:15] Hüseyin Bozkurt said, "You did not talk to me about
[01:26:18] such a thing, you did not make such a demand." Şahan
[01:26:22] also asked if he had directed him to continue meeting with
[01:26:26] Adem Altıntaş. Bozkurt replied, "I don't know Adem Bey,
[01:26:30] I didn't have such a conversation."
[01:26:31] Fatih
[01:26:34] Mehmet Bozkurt, a member of the Medicana Board of Directors,
[01:26:38] claimed that the demand for a 4 million dollar cash payment
[01:26:42] was conveyed by their consultant Adem Altıntaş. However,
[01:26:45] he stated that they did not meet with Şan and
[01:26:48] did not hear a demand from him. Altıntaş, on the other hand,
[01:26:52] said that the cash he received was a consultancy fee.
[01:26:56] Resul Emrah Anyanet spoke to Evrim Kepene.
[01:26:59] He explained the Medicana file as follows:
[01:27:03] "The institution that issues the license for Medicana is the Ministry of Health. All
[01:27:06] that was requested from the municipality was architectural project approval.
[01:27:10] that I do not have. On top of that, I am told that I personally
[01:27:13] gained benefits in return for that authority. The so-called
[01:27:17] benefit is a donation that was deposited into the official
[01:27:20] account of the municipality and is on record. Bozkurt also said in this session
[01:27:24] that he did not hear any demand
[01:27:26] from me. The will here is clear,
[01:27:29] and the demand of the nation is also clear." Now, what will happen in the process?
[01:27:32] Especially in the parliamentary and legal fields.
[01:27:35] We are following this with curiosity. There is a monitoring commission
[01:27:38] expected to be established in parliament regarding the resolution process,
[01:27:42] and when weapons will be laid down is the main agenda item.
[01:27:45] Today, there is also a cabinet meeting. Both the fund and
[01:27:49] the process, undoubtedly the most.
[01:27:59] said that the process is being carried out silently. DSP
[01:28:03] leader Önder Aksakal called on Erdoğan for clarity.
[01:28:06] Let's get the latest situation
[01:28:08] in the process on your screens.
[01:28:13] MHP's Fethi Yıldız pointed to the end of November
[01:28:17] for the "Turkey Without Terror" process. He also made a statement
[01:28:20] regarding the individuals who will benefit from the law. "Results will be
[01:28:23] achieved by the end of November, and then procedures will begin
[01:28:27] for terror convicts in prison. Approximately
[01:28:29] 2,800 people will benefit
[01:28:32] from the law." He emphasized that the process is a state
[01:28:36] and nation policy, and called for laying down arms and emptying
[01:28:40] the caves. He said,
[01:28:41] "We have red lines."
[01:28:44] Sabah columnist Yavuz Donat conveyed his discussions with
[01:28:47] AKP and MHP officials regarding the latest situation in the "Turkey Without Terror"
[01:28:51] process.
[01:28:54] According to Donat, who met with MHP Deputy Chairman
[01:28:57] Fethi Yıldız and AKP Deputy Chairman Hüseyin Yayman,
[01:29:01] Yayman stated that the process is progressing silently, not through
[01:29:04] discussions. Yayman also evaluated the 467
[01:29:07] votes in favor of the framework law in parliament as a guarantee
[01:29:11] of the process. As the Democratic Left Party,
[01:29:14] we offered an alternative. A statement regarding the process
[01:29:18] also came from DSP Chairman Önder Aksakal.
[01:29:21] artık kararlı bir karşı duruş göstermesi
[01:29:25] zorunluluğu vardır. Bunun zamanı gelmiş ve hatta
[01:29:29] seized, in which account number.
[01:29:37] Türkiye Cumhuriyeti Devleti bir Kabile
[01:29:39] devleti değildir. Bunu kimse unutmasın. Sürecin Meclis
[01:29:43] ayağındaysa gözler kurulması planlanan izleme
[01:29:46] komisyonunda MHP'li Fetih Yıldız komisyonun Yeni yasama yılı
[01:29:50] How much of it is under
[01:29:53] yapısı ve çalışma esasları henüz netleşmedi. Meclis
[01:29:56] başkanı Nuğman Kurtulmuş'un komisyonun üye sayısı ve çalışma yöntemini
[01:30:00] belirlemek üzere siyasi partilerin. temsilcileriyle
[01:30:03] görüşmesi bekleniyor. Öcalanında süreci takip edecek
[01:30:06] investigation, and for how
[01:30:10] dem partinin de önümüzdeki günlerde liderler turuna
[01:30:13] on a leaders' tour in the coming
[01:30:16] days. The monitoring commission envisioned by the law
[01:30:19] must be established as soon as possible, with a method that will support
[01:30:22] and strengthen the process, ensure the representation of other political
[01:30:26] parties, and ensure inclusiveness and pluralism.
[01:30:29] The establishment work should be completed as soon as possible.
[01:30:32] MHP's Yıldız pointed to the end of November, but the
[01:30:36] timeline and scope of the process have not yet been clarified.
[01:30:39] Now, eyes are on Numan Kurtulmuş's meetings with
[01:30:42] political parties, the steps to be taken for the
[01:30:45] establishment of the monitoring commission, and the next
[01:30:48] stage of the process.
[01:30:53] Now, the law monitoring commission and the priority
[01:30:56] in these, that is, the red line, was also in our news.
[01:31:00] The government also stated that the organization must
[01:31:03] completely disband and lay down its arms, and that this
[01:31:07] must be confirmed and verified by our security forces.
[01:31:10] Now, steps in this regard continue to be taken. A hot
[01:31:14] development occurred today. The PKK evacuated
[01:31:17] four camps
[01:31:18] in Northern Iraq.
[01:31:22] According to information from security sources,
[01:31:25] within the scope of the new resolution process, four camp
[01:31:29] areas in northern Iraq have been evacuated.
[01:31:32] According to the information, it is also aimed to ensure
[01:31:35] the integration of the returning members of the organization
[01:31:38] into society through programs to be carried out in many
[01:31:42] areas such as education and economy. Sources
[01:31:45] say that every step taken with the new resolution process
[01:31:48] will be a harbinger of the peaceful future that the nation
[01:31:51] deserves.
[01:31:58] Now, what is the latest stage reached in the process? What
[01:32:01] do the evacuated camps in Northern Iraq
[01:32:04] mean? Can we say that the verification and confirmation
[01:32:08] mechanism has now begun in the process of complete
[01:32:11] disbandment of the organization? Will this
[01:32:14] pave the way for the legal parts of the law
[01:32:17] in parliament? We mentioned Fethi Yıldız in our news,
[01:32:21] he pointed to the end of November. We will talk about these.
[01:32:31] the evacuation of four camps in Northern Iraq was confirmed.
[01:32:34] The terrorist organization laying down its arms, and this being
[01:32:38] confirmed and verified, was seen as the first stage, the first
[01:32:42] condition, as you know, it was talked about. So, can we say
[01:32:45] that the verification and confirmation mechanism has now started with this development?
[01:32:49] Well,
[01:32:52] there is indeed a confirmation, because
[01:32:55] the news about the evacuation
[01:32:58] of the four camps in Metina
[01:33:01] was announced by Murat Karayılan, who spoke
[01:33:04] to Kamal Choman from The Amardi, an English
[01:33:07] language publication, last night. He said,
[01:33:10] "We evacuated these areas as of the 8th of the month,
[01:33:14] and we voluntarily evacuated
[01:33:18] this region, which Turkey has been trying to take
[01:33:21] over and control for years through warfare with
[01:33:24] the Turkish Armed Forces, but could not, in order
[01:33:28] to advance the process." After that,
[01:33:31] a statement was made by the security bureaucracy
[01:33:35] in Turkey to the media, and this was confirmed.
[01:33:38] So, we can say that a confirmation
[01:33:42] mechanism is at work just from this.
[01:33:45] Cevdet Yılmaz, in a statement,
[01:33:49] announced that they do not
[01:33:52] have to wait for the ordinary meeting
[01:33:56] of the National Security Council for the verification
[01:33:59] and confirmation mechanism to operate.
[01:34:02] So, it seems
[01:34:05] that the process is accelerating
[01:34:09] from this perspective. However,
[01:34:13] what is even more striking,
[01:34:15] in my opinion, is that Murat Karayılan stated
[01:34:18] in his statement to The Amargi that they have also
[01:34:22] called back their militants
[01:34:25] in secret operations in various regions
[01:34:28] of Turkey. This indicates
[01:34:31] that they have taken an important step
[01:34:34] to prevent any provocative
[01:34:37] actions. However, one of the fundamental
[01:34:41] issues here is this:
[01:34:44] it is always said that
[01:34:47] for this process to progress, the parties need to take
[01:34:51] mutual steps. However,
[01:34:54] as we can see, and as we journalists
[01:34:58] clearly see, in Ankara,
[01:35:02] as you just stated, Hüseyin Yayman
[01:35:05] says that actions are being taken
[01:35:09] rather than discussions.
[01:35:12] But in reality, we only see discussions
[01:35:15] between the parties, including the government.
[01:35:19] However, actions are being taken
[01:35:23] on the ground. These steps are being taken in cooperation
[01:35:26] with Turkey's security
[01:35:30] bureaucracy and negotiated with them.
[01:35:33] So, Turkey is not unaware of this.
[01:35:36] Therefore, while such a
[01:35:39] communication and agreement process
[01:35:43] is ongoing between the PKK
[01:35:50] in Ankara is constantly
[01:35:54] being tried to be resolved on the ground. However,
[01:35:57] this needs to be opened up in Ankara so that
[01:36:01] more practical steps can be taken on the ground.
[01:36:04] This is one thing. Secondly,
[01:36:07] I think Fethi Yıldız's statement is important,
[01:36:11] because in our country, since I work in the Kurdish
[01:36:14] issue and this field, I also
[01:36:17] hear some rumors that various steps
[01:36:20] could be taken to accelerate the process
[01:36:23] in the coming days. It is also said
[01:36:26] that this is subject to opening steps
[01:36:30] to be taken in Ankara.
[01:36:33] You were going to ask something. No, actually, I was going
[01:36:37] to continue from where you left off. I didn't want to interrupt,
[01:36:40] and I thought you would answer it anyway. I was going to come to Fethi Yıldız's
[01:36:44] statements. Now, the government side, especially from the AKP front,
[01:36:47] actually said that it remains in words, not in action.
[01:36:51] The architect of the process was Devlet Bahçeli and the MHP.
[01:36:55] But at this point, as we understand it,
[01:36:58] the verification and confirmation process has started from both
[01:37:02] sides. Now, the government side, especially the AKP side,
[01:37:06] was conditioning the complete disbandment of the terrorist
[01:37:10] organization PKK and the complete laying down of arms.
[01:37:13] But MHP's Yıldız pointed to the end of November
[01:37:17] for the monitoring commission. In this context, do you think
[01:37:20] that if this momentum continues, the legal steps in Ankara
[01:37:24] and the parliamentary process will take shape by the
[01:37:26] end of November? Everything will
[01:37:30] not be done by the end of November. This
[01:37:34] is contrary to the nature of things. Actually,
[01:37:36] on July 11th last year, that is, on July
[01:37:40] 11th, 2025, there were 30
[01:37:43] members of the organization
[01:37:45] who burned their weapons. Let's consider these 30 people
[01:37:48] symbolically under Hozad's leadership.
[01:37:51] They burned their weapons and they couldn't
[01:37:55] return. Why?
[01:37:57] I mean, they burned their
[01:38:01] own weapons, but they couldn't return. Why? Because there's no law.
[01:38:05] If you return, you'll go to prison. Now a law
[01:38:07] has been enacted. You say the organization
[01:38:11] disbanding itself. For the organization to disband,
[01:38:15] the law needs to be implemented. How else will it happen?
[01:38:18] If even those who burn their weapons
[01:38:21] cannot return and need a law,
[01:38:24] and a law has been enacted, then this law needs
[01:38:28] to start being implemented. Cevdet Yılmaz's
[01:38:31] words are meaningful in this regard, that is, his statement
[01:38:35] that they do not have to wait
[01:38:38] for the NSC procedure is important. On the other
[01:38:41] hand, until now, Turkey has especially wanted some
[01:38:45] steps to be taken by the organization regarding
[01:38:48] this Metina issue. Murat Karayılan also confirms
[01:38:52] this. Long negotiations have been held.
[01:38:56] What does the Kurdish side
[01:39:02] want? It says that for this process to accelerate,
[01:39:06] that is, for concrete progress to be made
[01:39:09] by the end of November, which Fethi Yıldız indicated, Öcalan needs
[01:39:13] to get involved. Currently, meetings are
[01:39:16] being held with Öcalan, but Öcalan has
[01:39:20] never been able to participate
[01:39:23] in the process as a true,
[01:39:27] free, and easily movable actor.
[01:39:30] Because a regulation
[01:39:33] also needed to be made for this. Committees related to
[01:39:36] this process are being formed. Abdullah Öcalan was also
[01:39:40] said to be the coordinator of the disarmament and politicization
[01:39:43] subcommittee. Devlet Bahçeli raised
[01:39:46] the stakes and stated that he deserved the position
[01:39:49] of coordinator of this process. Now, if Öcalan
[01:39:53] takes the helm, yes, then it can accelerate
[01:39:57] by November. I say this because
[01:40:00] in August, I went to Qandil
[01:40:03] and had a long interview with Nurettin
[01:40:07] Demirtaş, Selahattin Demirtaş's brother.
[01:40:10] Subsequently, I also had many meetings
[01:40:12] with members of the organization. They all said
[01:40:15] this: for us,
[01:40:19] regardless of the law or the steps
[01:40:22] the government may or may not take, the only
[01:40:25] thing that will open the way for us to move
[01:40:29] quickly and return to Turkey
[01:40:33] is for our leader to call
[01:40:36] and take the helm. Why they attach
[01:40:40] so much importance to this is a separate
[01:40:43] and long discussion topic, but the state
[01:40:47] acknowledges this, it is aware
[01:40:49] of it. Actually,
[01:40:52] it was the state itself that created the Öcalan
[01:40:56] taboo. The state itself
[01:41:00] created that image of Abdullah Öcalan.
[01:41:02] The responsibility to change this image
[01:41:06] also falls to the state. Then things
[01:41:09] will progress much faster. The AKP is still making election
[01:41:13] calculations. Let me tell you more: Look, we are currently
[01:41:17] experiencing a truly revolutionary, historic
[01:41:20] event in Turkey. The resolution of an issue
[01:41:23] that has been associated with war, bloodshed,
[01:41:27] and suffering for 50 years is now
[01:41:29] finally being discussed
[01:41:33] and resolved. It is being resolved
[01:41:36] on a legal basis. Look, for years in Metina,
[01:41:39] we don't know how many losses the Turkish Armed
[01:41:43] Forces suffered, but for years
[01:41:46] there were clashes and wars there.
[01:41:49] Finally,
[01:41:50] at the end.
[01:41:53] very well, it was seen that it could be emptied smoothly and with agreement.
[01:41:57] This means that another method is possible.
[01:42:01] Now, however, the AKP made such an
[01:42:05] important process invisible with its
[01:42:08] oppressive, sometimes fascist
[01:42:11] practices. Due to the pressure it exerted on the
[01:42:14] opposition, the new party, and previously
[01:42:17] the CHP and the media, it actually
[01:42:21] prevented it from becoming
[01:42:24] socialized. If I.
[01:42:27] "My opinion is this, if the AKP
[01:42:31] gives up its election calculations and gives up
[01:42:34] advancing this process in such an oppressive
[01:42:38] environment, it is very easy for it to become socialized,
[01:42:41] it is very possible for taboos to be broken. The overwhelming
[01:42:45] majority of Turkish society
[01:42:48] no longer wants this, it doesn't want
[01:42:52] war and conflict, nor an autocracy established
[01:42:55] in the shadow of militaristic discourse."
[01:42:57] It wants a system, Ankara should no longer
[01:43:01] prevent this. When this doesn't happen,
[01:43:04] as Fethi Bey explained on the screen,
[01:43:08] there will be no need to wait until
[01:43:11] the end of November, things can progress much faster.
[01:43:14] Mr. Aktan, thank you for your participation
[01:43:17] and for the information you conveyed. Good broadcasts,
[01:43:21] thank you, take care. Dear viewers, another migrant tragedy
[01:43:25] occurred in the seas this weekend, let's continue with that. A small country
[01:43:28] located on the east coast of Africa, Djibouti,
[01:43:32] off its coast, this accident occurred. At least
[01:43:35] 139 migrant people lost
[01:43:38] their lives.
[01:43:42] The boat carrying migrants off the coast of the Republic of Djibouti,
[01:43:45] located at the entrance to the Red Sea in East Africa, capsized.
[01:43:49] Dozens of migrants lost their lives. The United Nations
[01:43:52] International Organization for Migration had stated that the capsized
[01:43:56] boat set off from Djibouti towards Yemen with 305 people
[01:43:59] on the night of October 9. In its latest statement,
[01:44:03] the organization reported that the number of people
[01:44:06] who lost their lives on the capsized boat exceeded 130. The migration organization
[01:44:10] announced that the number of missing was more than 80, and noted
[01:44:13] that the accident was the deadliest to occur off the coast
[01:44:16] of Djibouti. Search and rescue efforts are continuing. It was
[01:44:20] reported.
[01:44:23] The statement also said that local authorities provided medical care
[01:44:27] to the survivors, and that funeral ceremonies were held
[01:44:30] for those who lost their lives.
[01:44:33] Djibouti's coastline is frequently used as a crossing
[01:44:37] point by many African migrants trying to reach
[01:44:40] Gulf countries via Yemen.
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[01:54:05] We eat the most expensive food, we use the most expensive phones,
[01:54:09] and to buy a house or a car, we have to work for a lifetime.
[01:54:12] We asked the public, from food to phones, from
[01:54:16] houses to cars. Why are everything's most expensive
[01:54:19] here? The reason is, there is no production
[01:54:22] economy. All the investments made so far
[01:54:25] are investments for consumption, not for production.
[01:54:28] Factories were not opened,
[01:54:31] factories were closed. Now,
[01:54:35] you cannot prevent expensiveness without production.
[01:54:38] You sell the bridge, you increase the price of diesel.
[01:54:41] For example, eggplants, peppers, tomatoes
[01:54:45] produced in Antalya are transported to Istanbul
[01:54:49] by trucks. In between, there are wholesalers,
[01:54:52] and they take their commissions.
[01:54:55] Therefore, the expensiveness also comes from there.
[01:54:58] As long as this economic system continues
[01:55:02] in this way, it is not possible, they cannot fix the economy.
[01:55:05] There is a lot of expensiveness, of course.
[01:55:08] Of course, foreign capital, foreign brands,
[01:55:12] these are very important in daily use now. But if we, as a country,
[01:55:16] protect our own values, if we produce our own phones
[01:55:19] and cars and use them, maybe we can overcome all
[01:55:23] of these. I think we still haven't
[01:55:26] solved that. Really, inflation is rising
[01:55:29] quite a lot, salaries are quite low.
[01:55:33] Childcare, then house
[01:55:36] rents. I don't know, it's quite complicated, we can't get out of it.
[01:55:40] The situation is not good because of the government,
[01:55:44] I have nothing to say, because whatever we say is futile.
[01:55:47] Well, it's because the country is not well managed.
[01:55:51] I mean, right now, our country can
[01:55:54] support not just 85 million people, but maybe 180 million people.
[01:55:58] But because the management is not good, or rather because the managers
[01:56:02] are not good, they are putting this expensiveness on the people.
[01:56:06] It's really very difficult, it can't be like this, we have children.
[01:56:09] Well, what about us? There are those who go to school,
[01:56:13] we need money to buy books and pens. How will we buy them
[01:56:16] if there is no money? With my pension,
[01:56:19] I barely pay the house rent. Besides that,
[01:56:23] water, electricity, food, how will I make a living?
[01:56:26] Nothing will happen until the AKP leaves. The AKP must
[01:56:30] go, it has to go because they don't have money,
[01:56:33] they have destroyed the people. It's a sin,
[01:56:36] it's a sin, it's a sin to these people.
[01:56:39] I have never seen such a thing. Whether it was during their time or
[01:56:43] during Ecevit's time, they took him away.
[01:56:46] Nobody wanted Ecevit, why? Because he was an honest man.
[01:56:49] Honestly, whoever the next government is, they must give money
[01:56:53] to the workers, civil servants, and retirees.
[01:56:56] Then there will be shopping in this country, and this country
[01:57:00] will get better. We have
[01:57:01] no other choice.
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[01:57:49] Welcome to Halk Main News, dear viewers. Today,
[01:57:52] on one side, we say, there are the insatiable, on one side
[01:57:56] there are those whose tears do not stop, on one side there are the fund victims,
[01:57:59] on one side there are the fund perpetrators, on one side there are imprisoned journalists,
[01:58:03] on one side there are those who roam freely,
[01:58:06] we say, let's begin.
[01:58:22] New Party spokesperson Zeynel Emre made very harsh criticisms
[01:58:26] against the government regarding the fund scandal.
[01:58:30] If we hadn't exposed it, nobody would have exposed
[01:58:34] this scandal. Nobody should deceive
[01:58:37] anyone," he said. In the recent period,
[01:58:40] such a crisis broke out, the sewer exploded, and the center
[01:58:44] of the sewer is the General Headquarters of the Justice and Development Party. Now, the Minister of Justice
[01:58:48] said that there are 214 names who obtained illicit gains
[01:58:52] exceeding 100 million. Do we know that they have this list?
[01:58:55] We do, why? Because we announced them, and they cannot deny them.
[01:58:59] Here, when we asked why they didn't announce these names, the group chairman, Mr. Güler,
[01:59:03] Abdullah Güler, said,
[01:59:06] "There is great hypocrisy here, there is a will to protect
[01:59:09] their own thief. If we didn't expose them,
[01:59:12] they wouldn't expose any of them. This is very clear.
[01:59:16] No matter how much you try to hide it, we will follow
[01:59:19] this on behalf of the nation. With these latest actions
[01:59:22] of the government, it has once again shown that it is not the party of the nation
[01:59:26] but the party of Fatma Betül Sayan Kaya. But the nation is not alone,
[01:59:29] the new party is with it. This plunder is the official
[01:59:33] proof that this country cannot be governed, because this is an individual
[01:59:37] robbery. The Capital Markets Board turned a blind eye,
[01:59:40] the Istanbul Stock Exchange turned a blind eye,
[01:59:44] and the Banking Regulation and Supervision Board took part in it.
[01:59:50] Vice President Cevdet Yılmaz made statements
[01:59:54] about what
[01:59:56] can be done, what will be done, and what
[02:00:00] measures will be taken after this scandal. He said, "We will start
[02:00:03] with small investors, we will start by compensating
[02:00:07] their losses," and stated
[02:00:10] that principal payments of up to 1 million
[02:00:12] lira could be made if this bill
[02:00:16] is approved. He said it would
[02:00:18] be realized. Neither in ordinary liquidation
[02:00:21] nor in extraordinary liquidation is the use of public
[02:00:25] funds in question. So you might ask,
[02:00:28] what will be used if there are no public funds?
[02:00:32] Here, of course, the main thing we take
[02:00:36] as a basis is the net investment amount. And those who made illegal
[02:00:39] this 1 million.