IRINN — broadcast 20260806 163000 UTC 474 transcript segments Google Cloud Speech-to-Text API (Chirp) + Gemini 2.5 Flash Non-Thinking Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:00:00] Qatar, in the government of the martyred Raisi, after subsequent discussions on this matter, Mr. [00:00:03] Ghorbanzadeh was on this very program, saying all of this because there was a [00:00:07] discussion that America could stop it. My dear sirs, they were saying [00:00:11] that now there are ways provided and such, but [00:00:14] it turned out no, it's not like that. It seems the Americans have provided a better way [00:00:18] to stop it. Yes, that means, after all, the infrastructure is in their hands. The infrastructure [00:00:22] for financial transfers and all these financial infrastructures [00:00:25] are in American hands, so they can stop it. They haven't found a way to be out of this. [00:00:29] For America, all these sanctions are a paperwork process, [00:00:32] and with that very paperwork, they can reverse it. [00:00:36] It's not even paper. Now, it should be clear [00:00:39] to our viewers, and to anyone who, I mean, if anyone doesn't want [00:00:43] to see, after all, if someone says we can, America can really take it until [00:00:46] the last moment. Now, I'm not saying that my friends were saying this [00:00:50] both on and off the program, that no, now there are ways that we won't reveal now, [00:00:54] but the Americans can't anymore. See, their position wasn't like this [00:00:57] before, right? Now, what do you think? [00:01:04] Some experts have two options for alternative routes: one is cash, they say. [00:01:07] Cash, meaning dollars in a suitcase at Mehrabad Airport. [00:01:11] Well, some say, "No, this isn't right, it's useless." What should we do with it? [00:01:15] I'll get to that. Some also said about Mehrabad Airport, "Why did you mention Mehrabad Airport in that matter?" International flights are at Imam Airport, not Mehrabad. [00:01:18] No, international flights for officials use Mehrabad Airport. [00:01:22] They have a special pavilion. Now, this airport. [00:01:25] This criticism you're making is valid, indeed. So, [00:01:29] when you have paper dollars, apart from the issue of sanctionability or [00:01:33] non-sanctionability, which is a whole debate about whether [00:01:36] paper dollars can be tracked [00:01:39] or not, that has a complex technical discussion. [00:01:42] Let's assume that's not it. Your use of paper dollars [00:01:45] is limited. In the end, you'll want to [00:01:48] , for example, from the market, you want to create market balance, put it into the market [00:01:51] for traveler's currency, what do you call it, student currency, some [00:01:55] tourist or pilgrimage trips that have a [00:01:58] specific limit. I don't want to mention the number. It's a specific number per [00:02:02] year. And then a part of the banknotes is currently circulating in the market. [00:02:05] So it's not like you're at zero now, [00:02:09] but for example, if you want to import an essential commodity from Brazil, in the field [00:02:12] of, say, oilseeds or whatever, I'm just giving an example, you can't say, "Okay, [00:02:16] I'll send you a plane." [00:02:20] Dollars. It's not possible; they won't accept it at all. [00:02:23] That's why this option is not another suggested option [00:02:27] that some experts have put forward. As an idea, I just want to [00:02:56] This is also the part about the released funds. Well, there's a video from one. [00:03:16] It turns Iran into the gatekeeper or guardian of the Strait of Hormuz, and therefore [00:03:19] this will make it difficult [00:03:23] to succeed in this agreement because the United [00:03:26] States will clash with Iran if the monitoring [00:03:30] role is like this. And even the Gulf states will not [00:03:33] accept this new equation after the war ends. [00:03:37] For example, if there was a tanker carrying weapons to a Gulf state, [00:03:40] Kuwait or Qatar, for example, how would Iran deal [00:03:44] with it during the war period, I mean? And therefore, [00:03:47] Iran will have a distinguished position over the Gulf states. [00:03:51] This position was not achieved even by the Shah [00:03:54] during his time, and he was known as the policeman [00:03:58] of the Gulf, but he did not have such a role. [00:05:42] They will assess with the power we have and with [00:05:45] the hidden and visible information they have, they will draw conclusions. Not that God forbid we say [00:05:49] do this now or not, but it's a place where one can make a stand and solve [00:05:53] those issues. Let's move on to the conflicts within the United States of America. This [00:05:56] article is actually a very noisy one, and the noisy news [00:06:00] and reports about the disagreements and quarrels between Trump [00:06:04] and Pete Geertz [00:06:06] happened, friends. No, friends, [00:06:10] let it be. It was a very important meeting during [00:06:13] those days when Trump kept saying, "Tomorrow I will come [00:06:17] for the bridges and power plants. The day after tomorrow I will come. We are preparing [00:06:20] to launch an attack that has been unprecedented [00:06:23] since World War II until [00:06:26] now." Of course, these words come from his illiteracy. [00:06:30] In World War II, they had major attacks, but for example, the bombs they dropped on [00:06:33] Vietnam were more than in all of World War II. Now he doesn't know. [00:06:37] We are familiar with him now. In these 5-6 months, I think the audience [00:06:41] has constantly [00:06:45] become acquainted with his personality. He also has a person who is very similar to him in personality [00:06:49] named Pete Geertz, and [00:06:51] we explained before that he was not in the stature [00:06:55] of the Pentagon chiefs. Our audience can easily [00:06:59] make a comparison by looking at the list of Pentagon [00:07:02] chiefs, for example, from 1945 until now. [00:07:05] Among them, for example, there are nuclear physicists, exactly from [00:07:08] the peak era of, for example, the nuclear confrontation of the United [00:07:11] States with the Soviet Union. I don't know, [00:07:15] there are very high-level industrial [00:07:18] managers because the Pentagon is fundamentally a technology-driven [00:07:22] organization, and with the production of weapons, [00:07:26] America's military power is very high. I don't know, [00:07:29] there have been economists and many [00:07:33] four-star generals, meaning seasoned [00:07:36] and experienced individuals. Now, we don't have a moral stance, [00:07:40] but even in this criminal army, he was a professional [00:07:44] in the true sense of the word. When they brought Hagerty, [00:07:47] Hagerty didn't have much military experience. They brought him [00:07:50] up, and from that moment on, it was very clear that Trump had brought [00:07:54] someone who was a yes-man and could control the Pentagon [00:07:58] through him. Several [00:08:01] waves of purges, [00:08:04] 12, then 5, then one Secretary of the Navy. So, a total of [00:08:07] 18 senior officials [00:08:11] were thrown out of the US military establishment during the war. [00:08:14] These were all professional people in the middle of the war. [00:08:18] Well, this [00:08:21] really means a lot. We shouldn't just gloss over it, [00:08:24] for example, by saying that they maintain appearances, that so-and-so [00:08:28] resigned, so-and-so couldn't continue [00:08:31] his work, or that someone else had disagreements with Trump [00:08:35] over budget issues in later years. No, no country [00:08:38] changes its generals in the middle of a war. It reaches this point. [00:08:42] The Camp David meeting, which was exactly last week, we explained [00:08:46] that they would sit there and talk, and there was a press [00:08:50] conference that we covered. And we said on this [00:08:53] very program that the decision on whether Americans would return to this [00:08:56] war or not would be made exactly at Camp David. [00:09:00] The headline is clear, [00:09:03] right? Trump and Hagerty clashed [00:09:07] at Camp David over concerns about dwindling missile stockpiles [00:09:10] related to Iran. [00:09:12] Wash. in that post says I have two informed sources who interviewed me on condition of [00:09:16] anonymity. This is a legal [00:09:19] journalistic process in the United [00:09:22] States. There is a law that allows you to interview certain government officials [00:09:26] on condition of anonymity. Now, who was it? Was it at the cabinet [00:09:29] level or experts who work with [00:09:33] these people? I don't know, and the article doesn't mention [00:09:37] anything, but Hagerty also has [00:09:40] political rivals within the ruling establishment. [00:09:43] And it's not. It explains [00:09:47] that the Americans entered a war, and Trump's [00:09:50] objection was that Hagerty had made promises to him that [00:09:54] none of them had been fulfilled. The promise, apparently according [00:09:58] to this article, was that they said they would finish the operation [00:10:01] in 100 hours. And it's very likely that they were copying [00:10:05] the Desert Storm operation, the first Gulf War [00:10:09] in 1991. [00:10:12] 100 hours. From the perspective of the Iraqis, Saddam's team fell. [00:10:16] From the perspective of the [00:10:19] allied countries, it was liberated. They took Kuwait in 100 hours. Now, I should tell you something. That [00:10:23] professional army at that time, when it was working, [00:10:27] with a very complex and intelligent design, [00:10:31] had not planned for 100 hours. It had planned to enter the war and succeeded in 100 hours [00:10:35] with 167 [00:10:38] American casualties. It succeeded. [00:10:41] He says Hagerty apparently told Trump 100 hours. [00:10:44] And one of the things he did was not inform any of the allies, [00:10:48] both regional countries and European countries, [00:10:51] some of which are very close to the US, for example, Britain. [00:10:59] It doesn't have two countries aligned with the US. It's beyond [00:11:03] that. Since [00:11:06] World War II, their relations have been [00:11:09] very close. And no one was informed. And he says, "We came, [00:11:13] sir, our precise [00:11:16] ammunition in both offensive and defensive areas, [00:11:19] we used both extensively." Hagerty apparently promised that [00:11:22] these issues would be resolved, and [00:11:26] production would return to the same promises Trump was making two or three weeks ago, saying [00:11:30] we talked and we're going to [00:11:33] increase our production and replace these. This article also [00:11:36] explains, like all those articles related to military-industrial [00:11:40] discussions that we explained in this program, [00:11:43] that these cannot be replaced through a very fast process. [00:11:46] The article itself says that from the time [00:11:50] the budget is approved and becomes [00:11:54] enforceable, from that time, the process of [00:11:57] contracting with this US military-industrial complex [00:12:01] is a time-consuming process because there are legal issues. Those [00:12:05] companies must meticulously handle the contracts. [00:12:08] After all, things are said in it, and when this [00:12:12] contract is signed, it takes several [00:12:15] years for the ammunition to be delivered. [00:12:18] The Americans, according to statements from CENTCOM itself, say we [00:12:22] hit 13,000 targets in Iran [00:12:26] and countered 8,500 Iranian projectiles. [00:12:29] Now, this shows that they used a very large volume of ammunition, including ballistic [00:12:33] cruise missiles and drones. This is definite. [00:12:36] If their claim is true that they defended [00:12:39] against 8,500 projectiles, [00:12:43] which, by the way, the article also says ambiguously, [00:12:46] it says "we countered," it doesn't say [00:12:49] whether "we hit them or not," but it says "we saw 8,500 and [00:12:53] fired at them." That's the meaning. And this [00:12:56] is what happened. Trump told him why it hasn't been replaced. [00:12:59] Hagerty said that this [00:13:02] lack of replacement is not his fault; it's the fault [00:13:06] of the Biden administration. And they used a lot of ammunition, [00:13:09] which is why we are now in trouble. [00:13:13] And he blamed one of his deputies. I [00:13:16] unfortunately forgot his name. Well, I didn't [00:13:19] know him either. He said it's the fault of this deputy of the [00:13:22] Pentagon itself and the Biden administration, [00:13:26] who consumed the ammunition, and we don't have ammunition. [00:13:29] He says the reason Trump didn't return to a widespread war and a war [00:13:33] in which he made very big promises, and as he said, [00:13:36] was unprecedented since World War II, [00:13:39] this article believes that none of this [00:13:43] was the case, meaning none of the political, regional [00:13:46] issues, I don't know, agreements. It says the reason was a shortage [00:13:49] of ammunition, and Dunford, meaning the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff [00:13:53] of the United States, came. [00:13:55] He also laid out the process of how the operation was formed. [00:13:58] CENTCOM came and launched that 13-day war, which [00:14:01] some call the Battle of Hormuz. After 13 days, it reached a point [00:14:05] where it said, "Sir, I have reached the maximum [00:14:08] bombing efficiency. I can't do anything more than this. Either we expand [00:14:12] into the depth, which naturally [00:14:16] means receiving more ammunition, [00:14:19] troops, and equipment from the United States [00:14:23] for CENTCOM. [00:14:25] Or we must stop it here." [00:14:29] So they want to plan the operation. Dunford also comes [00:14:31] here, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff of the US, and presents [00:14:35] the operation plan with a very serious warning [00:14:38] that this action will cause our ammunition reserves, both [00:14:42] in offense and defense, [00:14:45] to be in a situation. He says we are already facing a shortage. He says it will enter [00:14:49] a dangerous situation such that it can no longer [00:14:53] defend other operational areas of the United States, [00:14:56] and in some cases, we cannot even defend [00:15:00] ourselves. Dunford adds there that in the last days [00:15:04] of this 13-day war, [00:15:07] we were forced to instruct our air defense forces [00:15:11] to monitor the shots and counter them if the strike [00:15:15] was a decisive one. [00:15:18] Now, a question for Nima, this statement, excuse me, [00:15:22] this doesn't just mean hitting the ground again. [00:15:26] If an ammunition is deviating, a projectile is going to hit [00:15:29] a desert, the duty of the air defense force is not [00:15:33] to fire at it. He says I came and said to hit [00:15:37] the decisive ones. [00:16:07] I don't have it, or I have little, or as you say, some of it is offensive. [00:16:11] Did I understand correctly that he's saying they have limitations [00:16:14] in firing precision missiles at precise targets inside Iran now? Yes, [00:16:18] look, in this same article, he mentions [00:16:22] the ground-to-ground missiles and gives a number that I really [00:16:25] didn't think would even be close to that. He says [00:16:28] they used 1,600 rounds and [00:16:32] says they are almost completely depleted. [00:16:35] He says they are almost completely depleted. We have used all [00:16:39] of their reserves. When their precise ammunition [00:16:43] runs out, you see, they can maintain firepower. [00:16:46] They are called "dumb bombs." A bomb that you throw [00:16:50] that doesn't have a very good targeting system [00:16:53] is very much a dumb bomb. [00:16:56] Now, a dumb bomb isn't necessarily a bomb; anything that is [00:16:59] "dumb" is called a dumb bomb. A bomb [00:17:02] in Persian literature means something thrown from an airplane. [00:17:06] That's not what he means. He says we have unguided things, but look, [00:17:10] it reduces the efficiency [00:17:13] of its fire. It can maintain its firepower. [00:17:17] See, before, it would come and fire a missile at a city. It knew [00:17:20] it couldn't hit the city. It would come and hit exactly its door, right? [00:17:24] We would reopen it through an engineering process in a few hours and fire from there. [00:17:28] We proved this, but that door would close for a few hours. [00:17:32] Now, when you have a weapon. In this situation, [00:17:36] شما وقتی که با سلاح. [00:18:07] it changes the weapon it uses. It goes for dumb bombs. [00:18:11] At that time, they were talking to Nima. Nima wasn't on board with this analysis. Robert [00:18:14] Pape, Nima, said the same point. He said, "Look, because he wants [00:18:18] to have an offensive [00:18:21] attack, he has to be able to hit precisely. Otherwise, what does he want to hit [00:18:24] with bombs that are not smart and don't have precise guidance capability?" Of course, [00:18:28] when you look at Pape's intellectual framework [00:18:31] and read it from [00:18:35] behind, the point is that he says, "I've worked for 20 years, for example, on the topic of [00:18:38] bombing design and how to bomb [00:18:42] to have a political impact, to have an economic impact." And he says [00:18:45] very deeply and explicitly, he says, "They are much [00:18:49] dumber than that." He says, "Their war was completely [00:18:53] wrong from the start." If we follow Pape, he says, "Even what [00:18:56] they did, even with that strategy, that famous book [00:19:00] he has, 'Bombing to Win,' bombing [00:19:03] to win," he says, "it doesn't fit into that logic at all." [00:19:06] This was an ambitious plan. [00:19:09] Those two informed sources in this article [00:19:11] specifically say something else: they say Venezuela really [00:19:15] affected us. He says that operation, [00:19:18] from a military perspective, was 100% [00:19:21] successful, like a Hollywood movie. [00:19:25] They really executed it like a movie, cleanly, [00:19:29] and then left. Now, the fact that there was betrayal there is [00:19:32] almost certain for everyone, because with these American [00:19:36] bodyguards flying over Caracas, [00:19:40] no one even swore at them. After all, what do I know, [00:19:43] four light weapons would have been enough to shoot them down. The Americans came and [00:19:46] finished this work with one injured person, [00:19:50] and they even brought this injured person to one of Trump's speeches [00:19:54] and gave him a medal. And they managed [00:19:57] to conclude it with one injured person. He says this caused two things to happen: [00:20:01] one, the self-confidence of this ruling establishment went very high, [00:20:04] and they took Iran lightly. [00:20:08] And they thought that their [00:20:12] military tools, their power, was much greater than it actually is. [00:20:15] See, I've said it many times: the United States Army is a very [00:20:19] powerful army, but it also has limitations, it has a [00:20:22] limit. There are times when the [00:20:26] army doesn't work, there are times when you can't [00:20:29] move forward with bombs. This is a reality that exists [00:20:33] for all armies, you know. I mean, it's not something [00:20:36] that only applies to Americans. No. Second, he says it greatly [00:20:40] strengthened Hagerty's position, and he says that those [00:20:43] who were against it within Trump's team, he says, all of them [00:20:47] "shortened their tongues," as he puts it. He says he would come and say, "Look how [00:20:51] I handled Venezuela," and what they mean by 100% success [00:20:54] in Venezuela is that the job was done. They had [00:20:58] one, one injured person. [00:21:01] And [00:21:04] a government came to power. Now it's Delcy Rodriguez, [00:21:07] and we have another article, a Western article, that says [00:21:11] practically Rubio is running Venezuela, meaning the US Secretary of State, [00:21:15] is a hundred percent submissive. [00:21:17] He says whatever you say. Now, I don't know [00:21:21] if he was with them from the beginning or if he's scared. He's also scared. [00:21:25] The reality is that this is also a joke, he had said jokingly [00:21:28] that Delcy Rodriguez tells Rubio, "After all, you didn't say whether we are a colony [00:21:32] or a country." Now he doesn't know his own situation. Trump posted a tweet, [00:21:36] referring to this, and he's very upset [00:21:40] and has actually said that those who leaked this information, [00:21:44] "I'll do this and that to them." Let the guys put up that post related to this information leak. [00:21:46] Now, the United States has massive quantities, especially of certain [00:21:50] specific types, available. In addition, a large volume of ammunition is being produced, [00:21:54] and whenever needed, it will be sent to the United States. He probably means outside, [00:21:58] you know, when he says it will be sent inside. Defense industry companies are building the largest [00:22:01] number of factories and production facilities in our country's history. [00:22:05] Individuals who have leaked these treasonous statements [00:22:09] are being prosecuted. Long prison sentences [00:22:12] will be requested for them. [00:22:16] This is something. This is a thing. [00:22:22] He put it in quotation marks. "Leakers" is what [00:22:25] is written here. Yes, "leak" [00:22:28] means to leak, which now can be used in both senses: [00:22:32] to leak or to give information. This must be true news [00:22:35] that you leak. To leak. [00:22:38] Of course, if I pay attention now, it's in quotation marks, meaning it can be a term. [00:22:42] Yes, that is, in Persian, we say in translation "so-called [00:22:44] leakers." This "so-called" we use [00:22:48] refers to a sentence like, for example, when we say "the country of Israel," [00:22:52] when we want to write it internally, they call themselves [00:22:55] a country, the so-called country. This also has [00:22:59] a point, but see the part about treason [00:23:02] that he's mentioning here. This is a point, you know. And that is [00:23:06] in [00:23:09] America, the judicial rulings that he's referring to regarding [00:23:13] treason are serious things. Meaning it's not like, for example, you committed a traffic violation [00:23:16] and they'll easily let it slide. He's raising [00:23:20] the level of the work. It seems if we look at the whole thing [00:23:24] from a distance, if we look at it for a minute, it's that this pressure [00:23:27] is affecting these matters, meaning these words are working within America, [00:23:31] and this conflict. Wash. in that post we just read, is a [00:23:35] center-left publication and is close to the Democrats. [00:23:38] It's not a Democratic publication to say it's the Democrats' propaganda [00:23:42] organ, but it's close to the Democrats. In various criticisms, it has supported [00:23:45] the Democrats until now, for example. [00:23:49] But the point is, if they say something very [00:23:52] far-fetched, it can easily [00:23:55] become a heavy issue for them. [00:23:58] Yes, and he says, "There is no smoke without fire." [00:24:02] Truly, the issue of deficiency [00:24:05] in [00:24:07] precise military equipment, whether offensive or [00:24:10] defensive, seems to be real. Some make an objection, [00:24:14] saying that maybe all of this is a [00:24:17] big deception [00:24:21] to trick Iran so that Iran [00:24:25] makes wrong calculations, thinking that the Americans [00:24:28] don't know to take a step that would force them to [00:24:31] come. Everyone. [00:24:35] Who doesn't have it? For example, I'm saying it's not like we're going to [00:24:39] now collect our air defense systems and, for example, [00:24:42] sell them to someone. Or, what do I know, close our missile [00:24:45] cities and bring them to the ground. This really has an impact [00:24:49] on us from a military perspective. [00:25:01] We don't have it that way at all. I have explained many times in this program that no country in the world [00:25:04] has it. Well, there are countries whose air defense is much [00:25:07] stronger than ours. We don't have that either. We had some, [00:25:11] and we definitely suffered serious damages in this war. Our air defense is [00:25:15] not at our own level, it's a mistake. It's much [00:25:19] beyond our own level. See, we were engaged with all of NATO, [00:25:22] we were engaged with an army that when it moves, countries fall. [00:25:26] We fought. We shot down F-35s. [00:25:30] We intercepted F-18s. These are things we broadcast the videos of ourselves. [00:25:34] We shot down their planes. We're doing our job. [00:25:38] It's not like that. It doesn't have a specific [00:25:42] battlefield impact on us. The rest of our air defense is also [00:25:45] indirect, meaning a very great engineering [00:25:48] and scientific work has been done. May the soul [00:25:52] of Martyr Hajizadeh rest in peace, who [00:25:55] made these missile cities. Most of them, they say, were the [00:25:58] result of the efforts of this great man. Through the process of geology, [00:26:02] selecting [00:26:06] very precise geographical locations, and a [00:26:09] very massive and complex engineering process, he built these in such a way that [00:26:13] they cannot be hit. That is, it still has no impact. [00:26:16] You can't bring a city down. It has no specific [00:26:20] military impact. The former [00:26:23] Foreign Minister of India, in a comment in an online interview, had said [00:26:26] that Iran's military [00:26:30] capabilities are so amazing [00:26:33] that they have astonished the entire Global South, how Iran is fighting. [00:26:37] Meaning Iran has been able to do something that, I want to say, [00:26:40] is beyond the imagination of the entire world. What [00:26:44] the Islamic Republic of Iran has done is still the handiwork of the great [00:26:47] Khomeini. The "We Can" motto is still [00:26:50] reverberating after, for example, 50 years, [00:26:53] an Indian is saying it. Maybe we can, you know. [00:26:57] It still echoes. Iran has shown that you can, you just need [00:27:01] to. I gave an example, I said that person was saying about these slaves [00:27:05] who wanted to start an uprising in Latin America, he had said the hardest part [00:27:08] of our uprising was the part where we told the slaves, "You can [00:27:12] not be slaves." He said this was the hardest part. When they accepted [00:27:15] a process, for example, military tactics, like how to escape, how to [00:27:19] organize, how to arm themselves. The first part is he says, "You are not a slave." [00:27:22] Really, Imam did this. Some [00:27:25] see Imam's simple words and then say, "The words are very simple." [00:27:29] The point is precisely that they are very simple. Exactly. [00:27:32] A person who only understands the language will feel it [00:27:35] deeply in their soul. Sir, in [00:27:38] '58, when Carter, who was a good man for Americans, [00:27:42] was the best American president [00:27:45] by these definitions, it was Kennedy and Carter, who were the best [00:27:49] of the best. It's interesting that in both the 15th of Khordad incident [00:27:53] and the 1979 Revolution incident, these two were present. [00:27:55] And Imam Khomeini has a saying that he says, "The American president should know [00:27:59] that no one is more hated by the Iranian people than him." Truly, [00:28:03] in both the 15th of Khordad massacre and the massacres that occurred in [00:28:06] 1977-78, these two "good" presidents were there. Imam [00:28:10] simply said, "We can deal with these Americans." All these words are the same. Meaning Hajizadeh, [00:28:14] who now, [00:28:17] Nima is saying, Martyr Amir Mousavi, may God's [00:28:21] mercy be upon him, when you look at all of them, they are all people who, when Imam was saying [00:28:24] these words, either they were newly born or some of them were born a few [00:28:28] years later, for example, after '42, a few years later, they were born [00:28:32] around this recent period, 30, early 40s. These are the people [00:28:36] who say they are exactly the products of Imam's words. [00:28:39] May God's mercy be upon him. Now, look, it has [00:28:42] more manifestations. We can make some [00:28:46] estimates that the Americans [00:28:49] really have this ammunition. Are they deceiving us? [00:28:52] We said the logic at first, there is no logic in them deceiving [00:28:56] us. It makes no difference to us. They also know very well, [00:28:59] they know exactly what they fought with, who they fought with, how [00:29:03] they fought. But where is the logic? [00:29:06] You can go back a bit to the Ukraine war, [00:29:09] the Russia-Ukraine war. If you examine [00:29:13] it, you will indeed encounter this shortage [00:29:16] very well. These were sometimes weapons [00:29:20] that were very effective in that war. Defensive ones, [00:29:23] defensive and offensive ones, like the ATACMS ammunition that I [00:29:27] mentioned. These are very effective. In a period like [00:29:30] Kuwait, which targeted our dear province of Khuzestan, [00:29:34] these would be fired from Ukraine [00:29:37] at Russian cities. [00:29:39] Yes and it was a real pain for the Russians. [00:29:43] But even then, he couldn't with that infinite [00:29:46] number the way the US army [00:29:49] appears in narratives, in images, [00:29:52] in movies, in books. Trump said we have [00:29:56] ammunition forever. Exactly that one layer [00:29:59] yes, they couldn't provide it. And [00:30:03] now, one of those who is very deeply and [00:30:06] very seriously involved with this reduction [00:30:10] in defensive ammunition is Ukraine. And its last [00:30:13] request was made just two or three days ago, [00:30:16] asking for several hundred Patriot missiles from the United [00:30:20] States, and the United States completely, meaning [00:30:23] it rejected it, saying no, we can't because our reserves are low, and now [00:30:27] Ukraine's defense is completely defenseless. I said [00:30:30] last night about defense, see. [00:30:32] What's the difference between us and them now? See, that's truly a proxy. [00:30:36] It's a proxy for America and NATO, fighting the Russians. [00:30:38] And it was getting ready. At the time this war [00:30:42] started, many [00:30:46] condemned the Russians as an aggressor country and so on. But Putin [00:30:49] had a meeting with Mr. Shahid, [00:30:53] and he told them there that if you didn't attack, [00:30:57] they would attack you. I am now.