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[00:00:00] you...
[00:00:35] It's two o'clock. The president, in a televised interview, announced
[00:00:38] a reduction in electricity and gas outages this winter.
[00:00:42] Mr. Pezeshkian said: The fourteenth government was trying
[00:00:46] to bring 30,000 megawatts of electricity into the grid
[00:00:49] through the development of solar panels to minimize energy imbalance,
[00:00:53] but the attacks of America and the Zionist
[00:00:57] regime prevented this goal from being reached, and electricity
[00:01:00] generation from solar panels reached 7,000
[00:01:04] megawatts.
[00:01:07] This year, for winter, despite our power plants being hit,
[00:01:10] despite nearly 230 million
[00:01:14] cubic meters of gas per day being cut off
[00:01:17] from us.
[00:01:19] You saw very few power outages,
[00:01:22] and I hope you don't see any
[00:01:26] more from now on. In this heat, some areas were cut off.
[00:01:30] We even planned not to cut off electricity
[00:01:34] and energy for
[00:01:37] industries and workshops, and we are trying to do this. These
[00:01:41] are all with the cooperation, empathy, and
[00:01:45] orientations we had,
[00:01:48] the assistance that people provided us.
[00:01:52] We were able to solve the problem for winter with this 230 million cubic
[00:01:55] meters of gas that we are short of. We are designing
[00:01:58] so that, God willing, people do not face problems in winter.
[00:02:02] نشن.
[00:02:06] The government's follow-up for strengthening the coupon system, a joint meeting
[00:02:09] of the Ministers of Economy and Labor was held to determine payment
[00:02:13] regulations. In the continuation of coordination among
[00:02:16] executive bodies, the technical and executive dimensions
[00:02:19] of determining coupon payment regulations, how to provide
[00:02:23] resources, precise identification of the target group, and inter-agency
[00:02:26] coordination were examined. This meeting continues
[00:02:30] the government's coordination process for a more targeted implementation
[00:02:33] of the electronic coupon plan and strengthening support for
[00:02:37] the target deciles.
[00:02:38] رود.
[00:02:42] For 158 nights, the people's epic presence
[00:02:45] stood firm in resistance until the complete defeat
[00:02:49] of the enemy.
[00:02:50] کردند.
[00:02:54] We made a covenant in the era
[00:02:58] of Khomeini. Every night, the squares sing the song
[00:03:01] of unity of people whose existence shatters
[00:03:05] the enemy's awe. The people have been on the streets
[00:03:08] for 158 nights. We
[00:03:11] are obligated for our land, for the blood
[00:03:15] that has been shed. The resistance and existence of the Iranian people. We do not
[00:03:19] submit to force. Indeed, the enemy retreats from our large
[00:03:22] presence. He is afraid. The American enemy's
[00:03:26] boasting and lies continue, but the people's resistance
[00:03:30] and the crushing response of the armed forces have so confused the enemy
[00:03:33] that he is repeatedly forced to retreat.
[00:03:37] This is his fear that he retreats, but he cannot announce
[00:03:40] to the world that I am the loser of this
[00:03:43] sand game. He just lies. Whenever he sees our people's
[00:03:47] steadfastness, he
[00:03:48] retreats.
[00:03:58] The fields
[00:05:06] of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Supreme Political Council of Yemen, in
[00:05:10] separate statements, defended the recent operations of the armed forces
[00:05:14] of this country against the mercenaries affiliated with Saudi
[00:05:18] Arabia, and held Riyadh responsible for the escalation of tensions.
[00:05:21] The Yemeni Foreign Ministry announced that these operations were a response
[00:05:25] to Saudi Arabia's military movements and the establishment of
[00:05:28] military camps on Yemeni soil, and emphasized that
[00:05:31] until the siege is lifted and the occupation ends,
[00:05:35] the right to respond to any hostile action is reserved.
[00:05:38] The Supreme Political Council of Yemen also, while appreciating the operations
[00:05:41] of the forces of this country,
[00:05:45] announced that these attacks thwarted Saudi Arabia's plan to start
[00:05:49] a ground operation. The council emphasized
[00:05:52] that the equation of siege for siege and escalation
[00:05:56] for escalation will continue, and any
[00:05:59] military action by Riyadh will be met with a painful
[00:06:03] response.
[00:06:12] A narrative of the blessed shrine that, from
[00:06:15] its own income, with the help of benefactors, sends first-time pilgrims
[00:06:19] to holy Karbala. The servants of the holy
[00:06:22] shrine of Imamzadeh Mohammad Sakineh Khatoon not only
[00:06:26] during Arbaeen but throughout the year host first-time
[00:06:29] pilgrims and those with limited
[00:06:31] means.
[00:06:34] A narrative that begins from this blessed shrine
[00:06:38] until it reaches the alleys of Karbala.
[00:06:41] بین.
[00:06:47] And that for anyone who has come from a path
[00:06:49] and whose path ends here.
[00:06:52] Wherever a pilgrim comes from, we do the reception
[00:06:56] work. They invited us here
[00:06:59] for accommodation and rest. We had been walking for three
[00:07:03] or four days. Servants who, in every way,
[00:07:07] are dedicated to the work to provide service.
[00:07:10] Thank God, I have had the opportunity
[00:07:14] to be on the path of Imam Hussein to serve Imam Hussein
[00:07:17] and the pilgrims of Imam Hussein. God willing,
[00:07:20] our master will be pleased with us.
[00:07:23] Enduring the heat next to the cauldron is only
[00:07:27] summarized in love. God willing, the pilgrims will be pleased with us,
[00:07:31] especially Aba Abdillah. It doesn't matter
[00:07:34] what ethnicity the pilgrim is. Our
[00:07:37] goal is to serve the love of Hussein. A service that does not recognize
[00:07:41] age. To prove this sentence,
[00:07:45] from childhood, I have been a servant of this respected lineage. I
[00:07:48] feel good here that I can take a step for the lovers
[00:07:52] of Imam Hussein. It doesn't matter what I do,
[00:07:55] whether in service or in the kitchen, it is a place
[00:07:59] where, besides rest, other
[00:08:02] events also happen. In this
[00:08:04] Husseiniyeh, in addition to accommodating pilgrims
[00:08:08] of Imam Hussein, there are classes to resolve doubts about religious
[00:08:11] rulings and also.
[00:08:43] To facilitate the pilgrimage
[00:08:46] of first-time pilgrims. The name
[00:08:49] of the shrine, which now, alongside the names of its benefactors,
[00:08:53] resonates throughout the year, not just during Arbaeen,
[00:08:56] in the streets of Karbala until it reaches
[00:09:00] Bain al-Haramain. Amir Hossein Khademi,
[00:09:03] dispatched reporter for IRIB News Agency, holy Karbala.
[00:10:00] Mr. President, our economic situation
[00:10:04] is experiencing severe imbalances. A significant portion
[00:10:07] of these imbalances is due to years of continuous sanctions,
[00:10:10] which, as a result, generally
[00:10:13] led to a significant increase in inflation. People's purchasing
[00:10:17] power has weakened, and people's tables have become
[00:10:19] smaller. Mr.
[00:10:21] Pezeshkian, when you took
[00:10:25] office, what was the economic situation?
[00:10:29] The situation when we took over the government is again
[00:10:33] extensive, but the outcome
[00:10:35] was that we had to face power cuts, water, gas,
[00:10:39] and such in winter.
[00:10:42] Our energy reserves
[00:10:45] were only 1.2 billion liters.
[00:10:48] And until Aban, they said it was enough.
[00:10:52] After that, we didn't have fuel
[00:10:55] to run our power plants.
[00:10:58] We also had a gas shortage.
[00:11:01] The discussion was that in winter, we would have neither electricity nor
[00:11:05] heating. But with cooperation, empathy, and
[00:11:09] management, it didn't
[00:11:11] happen.
[00:11:14] And again, it was the people who helped us a lot
[00:11:17] with their electricity and gas consumption. And we, from our side,
[00:11:21] tried to strengthen our power plants. These very solar panels that were launched,
[00:11:25] now nearly 7,000 megawatts of them have entered
[00:11:29] the scene. 7,000 megawatts means again 7 billion dollars,
[00:11:32] money that we don't have, but it has entered the scene
[00:11:36] and is starting up. This not only, from one
[00:11:39] side,
[00:11:42] is solving our energy problem and is expanding
[00:11:46] every day, despite this war, conflict,
[00:11:49] and siege that exists. We were supposed to install 30,000
[00:11:53] megawatts of solar panels.
[00:11:56] But due to these problems we had, we couldn't reach the goal
[00:11:59] we want. Of course, the program law is generally 12,000 megawatts
[00:12:03] in 5 years, but we are not at all pursuing
[00:12:07] that law. We are pursuing solving our own problem
[00:12:10] with clean energy as much as we can
[00:12:14] and have the potential and ability so that the fuel that
[00:12:17] we are in fact
[00:12:19] cheap to waste, pollute the air,
[00:12:23] and then face shortages, and this has happened.
[00:12:26] This year, for winter, despite our power plants being hit,
[00:12:30] despite nearly 230 million
[00:12:33] cubic meters of gas per day being cut off
[00:12:37] from us,
[00:12:40] you saw very few power outages,
[00:12:43] and I hope you don't see any
[00:12:47] more from now on. In this heat, some areas were cut off.
[00:12:50] We even planned not to cut off
[00:12:54] the electricity and energy of industries
[00:12:57] and workshops, and we are trying to do this. These
[00:13:01] are all with the cooperation,
[00:13:04] empathy, and orientations we had,
[00:13:07] the assistance that people
[00:13:11] provided us. We were able to solve the problem
[00:13:14] for winter with this 230 million cubic meters of gas that we are short of.
[00:13:18] We are designing so that, God
[00:13:21] willing, people do not face problems in winter, and we will do this.
[00:13:25] By the grace of God, with the help of the people and with the empathy
[00:13:28] and cooperation that exists among the branches of government,
[00:13:32] and the awareness we must give to the people so they cooperate. Another
[00:13:35] aspect of this bankruptcy is the imbalance in the economy,
[00:13:39] which manifests itself in people's livelihoods and tables.
[00:13:42] Previously, we had problems due to sanctions,
[00:13:46] now a naval blockade has also been added, which intensifies this
[00:13:49] economic imbalance.
[00:13:53] What economic situation did the government inherit from previous
[00:13:57] governments? What was the situation when you took over the government?
[00:14:00] They expected the country to collapse because of
[00:14:04] the pressures they exerted, and
[00:14:07] this has happened over the years. It doesn't have much to do
[00:14:11] with this government or that government. They were exerting this pressure
[00:14:14] and putting our economy day by
[00:14:17] day in a tight spot, creating
[00:14:20] problems. Now, in our government, this pressure
[00:14:23] is maximum.
[00:14:26] Now they are surprised in analyses why we
[00:14:28] didn't fall. We
[00:14:32] again, with the cooperation of experts, we now
[00:14:36] have numerous meetings with academics, with
[00:14:39] managers, with university economists, with economics professors
[00:14:42] of the university, with sociology professors, with communications
[00:14:46] professors, and universities have come to the scene.
[00:14:50] Meetings with industrialists, Chamber of Industries, meetings with Chamber
[00:14:53] of Commerce, meetings with guilds. I myself have held
[00:14:57] many meetings. The esteemed minister has held meetings
[00:15:00] many times, and with their help, we are trying to remove
[00:15:04] the obstacles from their path. They have come to help us
[00:15:07] to solve the problems.
[00:15:11] This doesn't mean that we have been able to solve all problems.
[00:15:14] Sanctions are a reality. We, when we cannot sell
[00:15:18] our oil, it means we will not have
[00:15:21] foreign exchange, or we will have less. When we had less,
[00:15:25] naturally, we will have problems, and these
[00:15:29] problems we must find a way to solve
[00:15:32] as much as we can to lessen and lessen
[00:15:36] them. This will happen, but
[00:15:39] its rapid occurrence is difficult. This
[00:15:42] path they closed, naturally, we are designing various
[00:15:45] paths with our neighbors.
[00:15:49] We are expanding our trade with them. We are increasing
[00:15:52] our exchange. Since we cannot transfer money,
[00:15:55] naturally, they are acting in a bartering manner.
[00:15:58] Our relationship with our neighbors
[00:16:01] is much better than before. Neighboring countries
[00:16:05] have very good cooperation with us. Actually, one of the programs that was during this
[00:16:09] war
[00:16:12] was the unrest and tensions from the northwest and
[00:16:15] southeast. They said a number of people come from there
[00:16:19] and cause unrest there. The countries of the region themselves
[00:16:22] did not allow anyone to easily enter from that side
[00:16:26] and cause unrest. This is a very big deal.
[00:16:30] This is a very big deal. It means
[00:16:32] our neighbors did not allow a group of
[00:16:35] people to come over here.
[00:16:39] Not only did they not do that, but they helped
[00:16:41] us. These are easy to say, but
[00:16:45] achieving this understanding and empathy among neighbors
[00:16:48] and within the country,
[00:16:51] which has now caused problems for all their plans
[00:16:55] and schemes, was not an easy task,
[00:16:59] and this is due to the blessing of the cooperation, empathy,
[00:17:02] and support of our martyred
[00:17:06] Supreme Leader. At that time, he strongly
[00:17:09] supported the government and its policies.
[00:17:13] Whenever we faced difficulties, we would approach him, and he
[00:17:17] would support us
[00:17:21] with all his might. If we have been able to endure so far,
[00:17:25] it was thanks to those policies, guidelines, cooperation, and
[00:17:28] the blessings of our martyred Supreme Leader. And today,
[00:17:32] our dear leader is helping us
[00:17:36] to achieve unity and cohesion and with the recommendations
[00:17:39] he is making, we can solve the problems.
[00:18:11] Dr. let's talk a little more specifically about this issue. One of your
[00:18:15] actions was the reform of the banking system, which at the beginning
[00:18:18] of the work, the Future Bank, which previous governments did not dare
[00:18:22] to act on, your government did with strength.
[00:18:25] Is this reform being stopped due to the current conditions
[00:18:29] the country is facing, or will it continue?
[00:18:32] One of the methods
[00:18:36] of inflation control is the reform of this banking
[00:18:40] system, and now, through
[00:18:44] the Ministry of Economy, there is a plan to manage
[00:18:47] the imbalances that exist in banks and
[00:18:51] prevent the banks from using money for purchases
[00:18:54] and in unproductive areas,
[00:18:58] and this trend will
[00:19:00] continue. They are designing,
[00:19:04] but it's not an easy task either. When
[00:19:07] I was a representative and deputy speaker of the parliament,
[00:19:10] there was a fund in Mashhad
[00:19:14] that had a problem. Every day there were demonstrations
[00:19:17] in the streets. They couldn't pay their money. They didn't have
[00:19:21] that large population, nor did they have that much money, but the whole
[00:19:25] country had protests every day. Now, at that
[00:19:27] time, we were able to solve it in a way. The Future Bank,
[00:19:31] which was 10 times that, maybe
[00:19:33] more, was closed without
[00:19:37] you finding any protest or concern in society, and this
[00:19:41] was again with wisdom and management that took
[00:19:44] shape, and of course, again with the coordination of the judiciary
[00:19:48] and the esteemed parliament, our brother Mr. Ghalibaf,
[00:19:52] our brother Mr. Ezhe'i, all
[00:19:54] of whom made it possible for us to pass
[00:19:58] through this path without
[00:20:00] tension.
[00:20:02] Another one of your actions was the removal of preferential
[00:20:05] currency. Did you do this by force
[00:20:09] due to the economic events that occurred,
[00:20:12] or did you do it with a plan?
[00:20:13] دادید؟
[00:20:17] We didn't know there was going to be a war.
[00:20:19] What we
[00:20:23] believe
[00:20:25] is, what can I say, our belief is
[00:20:28] justice.
[00:20:30] When we are in a country giving subsidies, the higher
[00:20:34] deciles usually consume more subsidies than the lower
[00:20:37] deciles. Electricity, gas, water,
[00:20:40] I don't know, energy, whatever
[00:20:43] you want. And this subsidy that we were giving
[00:20:47] for essential goods, who consumed it more?
[00:20:51] Whereas we should give this subsidy to those who are most in need.
[00:20:54] They need it more. The first step we
[00:20:58] took was to give the money
[00:21:00] that we were giving for essential goods
[00:21:04] to the final consumer, because in these
[00:21:08] comings and goings, in administrations, in purchases,
[00:21:11] when they wanted to buy, they would, so to speak,
[00:21:15] say a high price. When they wanted to export
[00:21:19] abroad, they would say a low price. They wouldn't return the dollar.
[00:21:22] When they wanted to buy, they would announce a lot to get
[00:21:26] more dollars, and then when it came to the market, well,
[00:21:30] you all know various corruptions would take
[00:21:33] place. They would hide it, use it elsewhere, export
[00:21:37] something they had bought for, say, $28,
[00:21:40] and sell it in the market for $100 and so on.
[00:21:44] But when we brought this dollar and gave it to the final
[00:21:47] consumer,
[00:21:50] no more corruption can take place in that path. Anyone who brings
[00:21:54] goods brings them to the market and sells them. We have put the difference
[00:21:57] in currency in coupons.
[00:22:00] Of course, now we must increase the price of
[00:22:04] coupons because the currency has become more expensive, and essentially,
[00:22:08] we must be able to increase the amount
[00:22:11] of coupons so that people can be comfortable. We are trying, because of this
[00:22:14] currency shortage and these we have, we are facing
[00:22:17] some problems, but God willing, we will solve this
[00:22:21] too. Of course, we must do something
[00:22:24] so that those who
[00:22:25] don't need
[00:22:28] government help, but can help themselves,
[00:22:32] if we can take from them and add to the lower
[00:22:35] ones, we will be able to establish more justice
[00:22:39] in reality, because in the world, even in scientific
[00:22:43] discussions, there are different discussions. For example,
[00:22:46] in insurance, we took 2,000 tomans from everyone.
[00:22:50] For treatment. I, who have money and an income
[00:22:54] of 1 million, with someone who has no money and an income of 10,000
[00:22:57] tomans, I, who have 10 million or 1 million, would pay 2,000 tomans,
[00:23:01] and the one who has 10,000 tomans would also pay 2,000.
[00:23:05] This is, in fact,
[00:23:07] against justice.
[00:23:10] It's even worse, because it's not only unjust, but helping
[00:23:13] with 1,200 tomans for someone with 1 million or, for example,
[00:23:17] 10 million, 20,000 tomans, 20,000 tomans is not a number.
[00:23:20] But for 1 million, 20,000 tomans is a number.
[00:23:23] They came and said, make it proportionate. In fact,
[00:23:27] take a percentage of everyone's salary. When we were ministers,
[00:23:30] we came and reformed the law.
[00:23:33] Proportionate to salary, we said they should pay
[00:23:37] insurance. The just way is
[00:23:40] to make it progressive. Meaning, whoever receives
[00:23:43] more money pays more, whoever receives less pays less.
[00:23:46] This is closer to justice. In the world, they
[00:23:49] do this. They do it in America, they do it in England, they do it in Germany,
[00:23:53] meaning countries that actually manage the country with this
[00:23:57] process, they do this. We now, for the time being,
[00:24:00] have given a proportionate percentage to the rich and poor.
[00:24:03] Justice is that we take some
[00:24:07] from the rich and give it to the poor.
[00:24:10] We will try to make this happen, and we will make
[00:24:14] sure that at least we can prevent
[00:24:16] problems in people's livelihoods. We have problems now,
[00:24:20] and we are discussing it in the government,
[00:24:23] and we will definitely do this, God willing. Dr., you
[00:24:27] moved the subsidy from the beginning of the chain to the end of the chain.
[00:24:30] This increased demand, meaning many people who were not
[00:24:34] consumers of certain items became consumers of those items.
[00:24:38] Do you have a plan to strengthen demand for
[00:24:42] these items? My information
[00:24:45] is the opposite of yours. Demand has decreased.
[00:24:50] It's true that people's purchasing power in deciles one, two,
[00:24:54] three, four, and five has increased, but many of these things
[00:24:57] we were importing were being exported
[00:25:01] from the country. Some of them were not even imported. Many
[00:25:05] of these neighbors would come and buy goods from Iran at our border
[00:25:08] and then take them away. With just one dollar, you could buy
[00:25:12] and take a lot of essential goods in Iran. As a result, all of this
[00:25:15] was stopped, and we are still controlling it.
[00:25:18] Now we are evaluating the data on bread consumption,
[00:25:21] which is currently subsidized. Statistics show that, for example,
[00:25:25] a family consumed 18 tons of bread in a month.
[00:25:28] One family 8 tons, 6 tons. It's impossible.
[00:25:32] They are consuming it in a different way. Now, how
[00:25:35] are we managing to stop this trend
[00:25:39] that is a breeding ground for corruption, rent-seeking,
[00:25:42] bribery, and smuggling?
[00:25:45] No matter how many supervisors you put, they can't stop this.
[00:25:49] Well, we've had these supervisors for 48 years, and we couldn't
[00:25:52] solve it. As long as the ground for corruption exists,
[00:25:55] you can't stop corruption. When you eliminate the ground,
[00:25:59] corruption doesn't even exist easily. When I freed
[00:26:02] the dollar, anyone who received government dollars, it was a rent,
[00:26:05] a privilege. Everyone had a privilege. As a result, they would
[00:26:09] fight over who gets it. They would take bribes
[00:26:13] to get a signature, to get a privilege.
[00:26:16] Well, we disrupted all of this. Now, no signature is needed;
[00:26:20] they can easily bring it and sell it in the market.
[00:26:23] Both administrative signatures and administrative corruption
[00:26:27] have been eliminated, and problems in customs have been eliminated,
[00:26:31] and these issues in the market have been self-corrected.
[00:26:34] Of course, with these sanctions, we haven't reached
[00:26:38] where we should be yet, but when you eliminate the ground
[00:26:41] for corruption, corruption cannot exist.
[00:26:44] Tourists would come and for these $2,000, they would take them around
[00:26:48] and bring them back. They would return the money.
[00:26:51] So for someone who went for tourism, it was free, and they would return.
[00:26:55] They would take our dollars. For what? In other words, those who
[00:26:58] are richer, so to speak, benefit from this.
[00:27:32] In these parts, despite all these issues, we are moving forward, and
[00:27:36] if God helps, if this
[00:27:39] hadn't happened and war had started, there would have been
[00:27:43] outages
[00:27:46] in the market. You wouldn't find anything
[00:27:49] in the market because we wouldn't have 28-toman dollars to give,
[00:27:53] and they wouldn't bring goods with free dollars to sell in the market.
[00:27:56] It's that now people can find everything they want
[00:28:00] in the market, but it has become expensive. We must compensate
[00:28:03] for this with food coupons, and God willing, we will compensate
[00:28:06] for it again. This is because it has eliminated
[00:28:09] the ground for these corruptions. On
[00:28:13] the last point, I want to stop. At the time of implementing
[00:28:16] this plan, many criticisms were raised
[00:28:20] that society was not ready for the implementation
[00:28:23] of this program. Do you accept this criticism that the timing
[00:28:26] of its implementation was not good? For 47 years, we want
[00:28:30] to do things right, and they say it's not the right time. Whenever you want
[00:28:33] to do something, they say don't do it now. And each
[00:28:36] time they make an excuse, and this is dragging us deeper
[00:28:40] into the quagmire every day. We are forced, meaning
[00:28:43] if we don't act correctly in water, in electricity, in gas,
[00:28:47] in gasoline, in diesel, whenever you want to touch it,
[00:28:50] they say don't touch it now. If you touch it now, there will be a loud outcry.
[00:28:54] So when should we touch it? I mean, when we are drowned
[00:28:57] and the country is destroyed and everyone is harmed, should we touch it?
[00:29:01] We ask the people to help us. We want justice,
[00:29:04] and in this justice, our entire
[00:29:07] effort is that if money is to be given
[00:29:10] from the public treasury, it should be given to everyone
[00:29:14] based on justice. One of the programs you mentioned
[00:29:17] during your candidacy was the liberalization of car
[00:29:21] imports and the privatization of car manufacturers. Has this
[00:29:24] program been stopped or will
[00:29:27] Look, this is also
[00:29:30] being implemented. We transferred Iran Khodro.
[00:29:32] کردیم
[00:29:35] Consequently, our Minister of Economy was
[00:29:38] impeached for saying that this shouldn't have been done,
[00:29:42] because he doesn't want to. I mean, the resistances, as I said,
[00:29:46] there is resistance to everything you do. This is it. Saipa and
[00:29:49] other parts, even various other companies, are currently
[00:29:53] in the program to be transferred as much as possible.
[00:29:56] And the transfer is not just privatization;
[00:29:59] it's a true privatization so that it can manage
[00:30:03] its own income and expenses, because many of these transfers
[00:30:06] we have made have become a sanctuary for some.
[00:30:10] Well, naturally, implementing such things
[00:30:13] requires both real buyers
[00:30:16] and a free market, which, at the moment,
[00:30:20] does not exist in our country in the way it should.
[00:30:23] We transferred some places, then due to these pressures,
[00:30:27] they were returned, and now they shouldn't have been
[00:30:30] returned. Those places that
[00:30:32] are not working efficiently are also a problem
[00:30:36] that exists in the country's decision-making system. The resistances
[00:30:40] against every decision towards liberalization,
[00:30:43] every one of these things we do, some people
[00:30:47] are profiting from it. Some people are making a lot
[00:30:51] of money, so to speak.
[00:30:55] Well, confronting these people creates an uproar. They never
[00:30:58] come and say you stopped someone from eating. They say, for example,