IRINN — broadcast 20260920 163000 UTC 437 transcript segments Google Cloud Speech-to-Text API (Chirp) + Gemini 2.5 Flash Non-Thinking Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:00:00] You yourselves, Mr. Pezeshkian, exclude him, in [00:00:04] my opinion, even among his respected ministers, except for one or two [00:00:07] cabinet members, because some of them might not even be ministers. [00:00:11] Those who are seriously working, I haven't seen the rest [00:00:14] of them. For example, Iran hasn't taken a war stance. [00:00:18] Your judicial branch hasn't taken it. [00:00:21] Your parliament members haven't taken it. Here, let's say we launch missiles in the morning. [00:00:25] With drones and missiles, they [00:00:28] will come after us. Every day, you can take the hand of an importer [00:00:32] of a luxury item, take them to a minister's [00:00:35] office, and say, "Sir, give this an exceptional permit," and the minister [00:00:39] will give it. If the minister gives it, why [00:00:42] does he give it? Please [00:00:45] ask him. [00:00:48] This is exactly what, in fact, in wartime conditions, we [00:00:51] basically don't have a wartime position. Sir, I believe [00:00:55] that other than our armed forces, we have no war posture [00:00:58] in Iran. And the [00:01:01] criticism I make to my friends who keep saying, "Sir, they complain, [00:01:05] why don't we reconcile?" because when the American side [00:01:09] doesn't want to reconcile, now you keep saying, "I want to reconcile." This only means [00:01:12] sending a sign of weakness, but the criticism [00:01:16] I have is that when you say why don't we [00:01:20] reconcile, you are actually raising a [00:01:23] duality where one side is pro-war, and this [00:01:26] side is pro-reconciliation. And [00:01:32] we ourselves forget that Iran's fundamental problems [00:01:35] all date back to before the war, including this liquidity [00:01:39] growth rate. We broke Iran's inflation record [00:01:42] in 1302. [00:01:45] Did you notice? And from the [00:01:49] middle of 1403 onwards, Iran's economy [00:01:53] has been out of breath. You [00:01:56] know, this is an interesting point that economic growth in the first [00:01:59] quarter of 1404 was [00:02:02] negative. In the second quarter after the 12-day war, it became [00:02:06] positive. [00:02:08] Sir, after this 12-day war, our growth has been positive. Yes, in that second quarter. [00:02:12] Yes, meaning a little seasonal, seasonal growth. [00:02:15] Bravo! And a little [00:02:18] bit now, you can also do this with coherent [00:02:21] policies. We have created an institution. The [00:02:25] martyred leader created an institution called the Heads of Powers. [00:02:29] These Heads of Powers [00:03:00] I would ask you that if you create, I don't want to dissolve you. [00:03:03] Hundreds of thousands, millions of depositors, [00:03:07] I don't want to throw them into the streets, because we don't want a revolution, we don't want [00:03:10] to overthrow the regime. We want to provide solutions. Your CEO [00:03:14] will be replaced. You know that the legal authorities exist [00:03:18] in Iran. Who should replace him? The Minister of Economy, the Governor of the Central [00:03:21] Bank. The Minister of Economy, if a bank commits a violation, we can appoint [00:03:25] a board of directors selected by the government, which is what [00:03:27] was done for private banks without [00:03:47] Look, what did I tell you? I told you to tell the esteemed bank, "Sir, don't create new imbalances," [00:03:50] because you will go bankrupt very much. [00:03:54] No, because some of these, if they don't create new balances, they won't go bankrupt. [00:03:58] Theft will be stopped. [00:04:30] Look, this statement is from one of the esteemed former governors [00:04:33] of the Central Bank of Iran. He is also [00:04:36] my friend, a very respected man and an expert. [00:04:39] That means he is not political or factional. [00:04:42] He says that 40% [00:04:46] of the assets of Iran's banking network are illusory. What does "illusory" [00:04:50] mean? It means collateral [00:04:53] that has no external existence, collateral that is fake. [00:04:57] you gave to the other party, and what kind of promissory note? [00:05:00] You know, in the sacred system of the Islamic Republic, it is only good for wallpapering [00:05:04] public restrooms. It doesn't do anything [00:05:07] else. Sir, Sir, on the [00:05:10] level. It works on the level. [00:06:12] The capitalist government of Britain, the birthplace of global [00:06:16] capitalism, nationalized all banks in 2009 [00:06:19] and 201. And we still don't use this solution. [00:06:23] Why? We did it once at the beginning of the revolution. No, no, now, [00:06:26] actually, the first solution saved Iran completely. [00:06:30] Bravo! Our [00:06:33] liberal friends now refute this. They consider [00:06:36] nationalizing industries and that was a very [00:06:40] wrong thing. Look, these banks, let me ask a question. No, no, Mr. Kharab. [00:06:43] These banks' owners, the banks' owners, [00:06:47] were the same as the factory owners. Now, the laws have become [00:06:50] clearer. The bank itself borrowed for its own factory, or it planted seeds in the morning [00:06:54] and harvested them in the evening. I haven't seen such fast agriculture in the history [00:06:57] of Iran, in the history of mankind. Fertile land [00:07:01] borrowed from itself, gave to itself, [00:07:04] and took it out of the country. With the loan it took, it bought another bank, [00:07:08] and borrowed again. This happened. [00:07:11] And as a result, what happened? Before [00:07:14] the revolution, factories were in debt to banks [00:07:18] by up to double their value, and their owners were almost the same. [00:07:22] Mr. Bazargan's government, Mr. Bazargan's government, [00:07:26] faced this duality: either surrender to a [00:07:29] collapse, a simultaneous collapse [00:07:33] of both banks and industry, [00:07:36] meaning both workers and depositors would take to the streets, or [00:07:40] nationalize it. Sir, in the mid-1970s, [00:07:44] in the early 1370s of the solar calendar, I became [00:07:47] a member of the board of directors of a company whose CEO, [00:07:51] for four or five years after my membership, signed as [00:07:54] "government-appointed director." This is exactly what Mr. Godeh expects. [00:07:57] Samket wrote that [00:08:00] Mr. Godeh will never come. Yes, don't spoil [00:08:03] it. No, we were waiting for Mr. [00:08:07] Berger to come and take his property. According [00:08:10] to legal procedure, we weren't allowed to write "CEO." [00:08:13] "Government-appointed director" means I'm waiting for the owner to come and take this. [00:08:17] And they never came. The guy [00:08:21] had taken three times the value of that place and taken it abroad to do his [00:08:24] business. Therefore, we should not [00:08:27] be afraid of criticism, Mr. Khazaei. We should not be afraid [00:08:30] of the reproach of blamers. We should not be afraid. [00:08:34] We must (This is the problem, excuse me) the private banks say [00:08:38] that this matter must be handled forcefully, [00:08:42] because you are being treated with force. Didn't you just say that if a person [00:08:45] wants to revolt, they must act in accordance with their status? [00:08:49] If you're serious, if you're serious about war, if you're serious, [00:08:53] if it's the apocalypse, I'm worried that [00:08:56] this friend of ours, that nobleman whom you [00:09:00] criticized belatedly, this part is correct. [00:09:03] Addressing government officials, and not just [00:09:06] the government. Sir, it was not addressed to government officials. Sir, I know what you're saying. [00:09:10] I'm saying this is where it's right, to see. [00:09:15] The criticism I might have is that, as I said, those words were incomplete. [00:09:18] If we sit down and talk to him, we will definitely hear something [00:09:22] else. But the point I have is that you [00:09:25] cannot just put all the misfortunes on the shoulders of the general [00:09:29] public. Look, the government does nothing. [00:09:33] The government also includes the government. Its inclusiveness [00:09:37] is in place, but you just - what does "just" mean? Sir, in [00:09:40] the past 25 years, [00:09:42] while Iran's GDP at constant prices [00:09:45] has grown 100%, dear Mr. Razavi, [00:09:49] the purchasing power of 80% of Iranian society has [00:09:53] remained constant. Excuse me, where else do you want [00:09:56] to pressure these people? Now, there's a question, we say unbalanced [00:09:59] banks are our problem. Let's go and, in a sense, nationalize [00:10:03] some of the unbalanced banks. They are not state-owned. [00:10:07] State-owned. Well, yes, discipline. When did I say nationalize? I told him [00:10:11] we warn him, "Look, sir, from now until two months from now," because I don't want a revolution. [00:10:14] I mean, I don't want the regime. No, that also has a way. Let's give it time. [00:10:18] Sir, don't create new imbalances. [00:10:22] After a while, let's say, "Brother, come on, slow down." [00:10:34] We appointed a failed person, or someone who couldn't manage [00:10:38] the future bank properly on behalf of the government, [00:10:42] this doesn't mean that this whole path has failed, because [00:10:45] you don't have any other path either. Look, [00:10:49] I met the late Raisi once at his own invitation. [00:10:52] He pulled me aside and said, "Sir, do [00:10:56] you have anything to tell me? [00:11:00] Do you have a solution, anything to say?" It [00:11:03] was at the beginning of his government. I told him, "Sir, if we have listed [00:11:06] 20 to 30 to 40 problems in Iran's economy, [00:11:09] I suggest to your Excellency, like a tangled [00:11:13] thread from which 20 to 30 criticisms have emerged, my suggestion to [00:11:17] your Excellency is to start pulling and treating [00:11:21] where there is inflation. As long [00:11:24] as you, brother, don't solve Iran's inflation problem, [00:11:28] the legitimacy problem won't be solved, the support of your people won't [00:11:31] be solved, fundamental economic reforms won't [00:11:34] be solved. We can now save 100 million liters of gasoline [00:11:38] and diesel in Iran every day. [00:11:40] We can really do this. [00:11:43] This 100 million liters per day is 60 million [00:11:47] dollars at the current price. You can [00:11:50] export this 60 million dollars to neighboring [00:11:53] countries without any monitoring by foreign sanctions, and [00:11:57] either get cash or goods in return. Why can't [00:12:00] we do this? Because our administrative structure is not suitable [00:12:04] for this, and socially, our social structure [00:12:07] is fragile. I want to speak in a sanitized way [00:12:11] on television. Our social structure is very fragile. [00:12:14] Our legitimacy has reached rock bottom. Why [00:12:17] has it reached rock bottom? Either corruption itself or [00:12:21] people's perception of corruption has increased to its highest level, [00:12:25] and we must start this issue somewhere. [00:12:28] In fact, the solutions I provide, Mr. Razavi, are solutions [00:12:32] that, even if your crisis is resolved, you should continue [00:12:35] them. First, secondly, the enemy's [00:12:39] greed towards you, brother, is due to these points, [00:12:42] these internal problems, [00:12:45] these emotional conditions. I formally [00:12:48] accuse, as that gentleman said, [00:12:52] monthly foreign exchange inflow. [00:13:25] deal with it. Yes. [00:13:26] And [00:13:29] let's not say that we are only and only economic. The coup's origin [00:13:32] was there. It was a coup. Let's not say that [00:13:35] then the people should conserve. Excuse me, we've reached [00:13:39] the end. No, let me say something about legitimacy. Look, we are at [00:13:43] the very place where millions of foreign observers, which led [00:13:46] to a dispute, Reuters had also put it out, there was a debate. [00:13:50] These monarchists were saying, "Mr. So-and-so, these tens of [00:13:54] millions of people participated in the funeral of the martyred [00:13:57] gentleman in various ways." The issue [00:14:00] is that in other countries, the lack of legitimacy that arises [00:14:03] refers to "I don't want this." Now, our problem is that [00:14:07] even those who want the government are complaining, [00:14:11] and their complaints are justified. That is, in a [00:14:14] governing structure, the government (I don't mean the executive branch) [00:14:18] a government in the sense of an overarching umbrella [00:14:22] that people say, "I accept this," according to opinion polls, [00:14:42] this will destroy your entire argument. Let's start dealing with corruption, not vindictively, not [00:14:46] by dealing with the top brass, but in [00:14:49] the sense of removing rent-seeking from the economy, [00:14:53] in the sense of removing rent-seeking from the economy. You mentioned one case regarding banks, [00:14:56] but it's still weak. Look, I, of course, am currently [00:14:59] against increasing the price of basic [00:15:02] goods and currency, etc. Why? As long as you haven't [00:15:06] controlled your inflation [00:15:08] rate, any price [00:15:11] adjustment will cause a thousand to 1500 casualties. [00:15:14] The game starts all over again. After two years, [00:15:17] imbalances again. We must, if we want to reform anything, [00:15:21] first of all, turn off the engine of liquidity growth. [00:15:25] For this reason, whenever a discussion arises, [00:15:28] I first talk about liquidity growth and [00:15:31] its constituent factors. [00:15:34] Its counter, in your words, is the bank. [00:15:37] Very, very credible gentlemen, whose names I [00:15:41] will not mention here, at very high levels of the Central [00:15:44] Bank and the country's banking system, say that two-thirds of the imbalances [00:15:48] are due to factors other than today's wartime conditions. [00:15:52] Two-thirds of it is due to bank imbalances. One-third [00:15:55] is due to the government budget deficit. I have no problem [00:15:59] with the government budget deficit at all, contrary to what [00:16:02] some of our friends say. The size of the government [00:16:05] in Iran has become very small, and the government [00:16:07] has become very weak. We must strengthen the government. From [00:16:11] a financial system perspective, you know, Saudi Arabia's government budget [00:16:14] deficit this year is over 6% [00:16:17] of GDP. In Iran this year, if we assume [00:16:20] 55,000 trillion tomans [00:16:23] as our domestic production at current prices, which will [00:16:27] not be less than this, if you calculate 6% of this [00:16:30] 55,000 trillion tomans, it will be something around [00:16:34] 3 (wheat, wheat). Exactly. No, sir. No, [00:17:07] not just agriculture. [00:17:10] Wheat means the one who provides our bread. Yes, the [00:17:14] people's bread. I don't know anyone more honorable than these 900,000 people. [00:17:17] Their families, for three or four months, sold their wheat [00:17:20] 40% below the world price, [00:17:24] guaranteed price. But the government doesn't have the money to pay [00:17:27] them. We tell them it causes inflation. We say, "Sir, it is already inflation." [00:17:31] Firstly, Mr. Nouri Ghazaljeh himself is against [00:17:35] it. Poor man. And this price. The little reform you [00:17:39] did this year, the esteemed officials of the Central [00:17:42] Bank and the Ministry of Agriculture say we saved 500 million [00:17:46] dollars just in imports of barley. You know, for the first time ever, after the price [00:17:50] was somewhat reformed, the farmer himself started. [00:17:52] In the first three months of this year, Iran's economic growth [00:17:56] rate was 10% negative. The only sector that has grown [00:18:00] is the agricultural sector. [00:18:03] Did you notice? The government [00:18:07] made up for its very poor performance last year. This very [00:18:11] government. Mr. Raisi did well for one year, but ruined it again in other years. [00:18:14] May God bless him. In pricing [00:18:18] wheat and workers' wages, sir, [00:18:21] let's come and fix these. [00:18:25] Let's control the main source of Iran's plunder, which is liquidity [00:18:28] growth, not at the level of the budget deficit, but at the level [00:18:31] of imbalances. Let's stop the rent-seeking, stop the special [00:18:34] privileges in imports, sir. When [00:18:38] we say it, they say, "Sir, he is against imports." I swear to [00:18:41] God, if we were against imports in normal conditions, what are you saying? [00:18:45] We say, "Sir, when you have wartime conditions, [00:18:48] you must act in accordance with wartime status." Wartime imports [00:18:52] are imports, but their nature is different. No, yes. [00:18:56] Bravo! It's a priority. This is a given. [00:18:59] It's among the givens. You cannot, when your foreign exchange [00:19:02] resources become one-third, you cannot reduce all expenses [00:19:06] by one-third at once. You have to make some zero and keep others at the same [00:19:10] constant level. Otherwise, your cancer patients will be left at the door, [00:19:13] brother. They are left behind. [00:19:16] They are left. You know, in [00:19:19] 1402, [00:19:22] there were sanctions, and [00:19:25] problems. We spent 12 billion dollars on Iranians' travel [00:19:28] abroad. Sir, I am not against this travel. So that [00:19:32] money, what do you mean by foreign currency? [00:19:34] Travel currency. No, the currency [00:19:38] that is spent on travel, according to the Central Bank, includes the currency [00:19:42] given to travelers. What else does it include? It includes [00:19:45] airplanes. These foreign airlines, when they [00:19:48] give you 500 million tomans, one billion tomans [00:19:51] later for a ticket, you know, they give you a ticket to fly from here [00:19:55] to Los Angeles and back. This one billion tomans, they go to the official rate of the Central Bank and say, [00:19:58] "Sir, give me my dollars." Do you think Lufthansa spends rials in [00:20:02] Frankfurt? 12 [00:20:05] billion dollars. Central Bank statistics [00:20:07] imports, are the latest available statistics. It might be [00:20:11] say travel expenses in 1402, [00:20:15] under the title of [00:20:18] more, even 15 in some years. Now, this figure, now because [00:20:22] of the country's situation, this is no longer the case. They are right. Yes, [00:20:26] one big reason is that when tensions [00:20:29] rise to a high level in Iran, and [00:20:32] flights are suspended, the dollar price doesn't explode. This is [00:20:35] it. [00:20:38] The demand for dollars also goes down. Sir, a billion [00:20:41] dollars a month is a lot of money, brother. A lot. The dispute is over [00:20:45] our own 12 billion, which we will get from Qatar after a few years. God bless you. [00:20:48] It's [00:21:09] not like we can say we are a poor nation. [00:21:12] Sir, look, in terms of trade, now, the discussion of the blockade, I consider [00:21:16] it the most serious sanction discussion in Iran's history. Yes. [00:21:20] It's serious. They don't take it lightly. For this [00:21:23] reason, I say fundamental measures must be taken. [00:21:26] But at the purchasing power [00:21:29] parity rate, our GDP [00:21:33] is about 1900 billion dollars. [00:21:36] Sir, let's say it's even that 400 billion dollars [00:21:39] at the nominal rate, which is a [00:21:42] wrong statistic. It's an incorrect indicator. [00:21:45] Economists themselves know how naive this [00:21:48] indicator is. If you want to calculate it, Iran's total foreign trade is [00:21:51] 200 billion dollars. If you take Iran's GDP as 200 billion dollars, [00:21:55] how much is it? 10. 10. Iran [00:21:59] is one of the most self-sufficient countries in the world. [00:22:02] It shouldn't shake us like this. It shouldn't let [00:22:06] the dollar price get out of control. The dollar shouldn't become 24 [00:22:10] to 50,000 tomans, unless an anarchist [00:22:13] is ruling the expenses. That is, you still [00:22:16] want to continue your car production. [00:22:20] Sir, if I were in charge, I would say first, [00:22:23] weapons for the military forces, [00:22:26] 100% secured. Second, [00:22:29] medicine, 100% secured. Third, food. [00:22:32] This food is not only imports, it includes [00:22:35] strengthening the purchasing power of Iranian farmers. We have four [00:22:39] million active farmers in Iran, in [00:22:43] the chain of the most honorable people of this country, sitting in [00:22:46] villages or on the outskirts of cities, producing food for you. [00:22:50] And it's more than enough, 145 million tons. [00:22:53] On the third or fourth day of the war, I predicted on this very channel [00:22:57] of yours that Iran would never see famine. Yes, yes. [00:23:01] Well, because we had information. [00:23:04] You know. Now, if you, Mr. Nouri, the Ministry of [00:23:08] Agriculture, if you adjust the prices a little, [00:23:11] you will see its effects on wheat production. [00:23:15] Good weather is also a factor. What [00:23:17] is it? Rainfall affects the price of wheat. [00:23:50] We will wait for a long time with an attitude [00:23:53] as if Khaybar has been conquered. In the morning, [00:23:55] he says another 50 trillion tomans [00:23:58] have been given. It's as if we are not considering [00:24:02] our deceased. It's another matter. I mean, [00:24:06] there are things. These priorities, in the end, [00:24:10] if there was anything left, we would say, "Well, car production, and that too, [00:24:13] from the highest [00:24:17] domestic production." We start. How much was the reprimand? [00:24:21] We go to, you know, this experience of this kind of program in [00:24:24] Iran is 70 years old. The Shah's third development [00:24:27] plan came out and said, "Sir, if we found money, [00:24:31] we would complete some areas up to 100%. Once those were completed, we would move [00:24:35] on to the rest." It's as if this tradition has been forgotten in Iran. [00:24:38] During the third development plan, yes, from [00:24:42] the middle, Ali Khani came. [00:24:46] Because the third plan started in the middle of [00:24:49] 1341 and lasted until the end of 1346. [00:24:52] My point is, this Khani is from the Alam government. Yes. [00:24:56] From the Alam government. No, because Ali Khani himself had economic views. Now, during [00:25:00] the Shah's era, there are a few ministers [00:25:03] who have views similar to what you're saying, contrary to the entire [00:25:06] system. Ali Khani was one of those who had some points regarding fundamental allocation. [00:25:10] But, look, since I don't see history in an individual, [00:25:13] I say that during that period, because you had a shortage [00:25:17] of resources, discipline [00:25:21] was also in the Shah's mind. Later, when abundance happened, and the Shah, [00:25:24] I mean, when the system became corrupt, Ali Khani was actually thrown out. Look [00:25:28] at how they treat a pioneer. Ali Khani was just thrown out of [00:25:32] the system, despite all the services you mentioned, because he refused to [00:25:35] comply. That was the big difference between him and Hoveyda. Yes. [00:25:39] Hoveyda complied and said, "Sir, I will do it myself." I mean, [00:25:42] in any case, I want to say to you that we have many [00:25:46] diverse solutions. We can establish all our corridors. [00:25:50] This Astara-Anzali-Anzali-Astara [00:25:53] railway, which has been going on for 10-12 [00:25:57] years, sir, let's think about it and build [00:26:00] it. This war [00:26:03] in Ukraine, sir, I am not [00:26:06] a diplomat, as the martyred leader said, nothing, but it's in Iran's [00:26:10] favor. The more it intensifies, the better for Iran, and we should [00:26:14] take advantage of this intensity of the war. Iran should [00:26:17] use it. We can, with the shared border we have with [00:26:21] Russia, use it much more. [00:26:24] Iran's economy, in any case, is very complex and extensive, [00:26:28] and it is by no means forced to surrender [00:26:31] to the excessive demands of the West. I also want to ask [00:26:35] you for a few minutes to discuss your analysis of [00:26:38] the situation in the West, specifically America, because this issue [00:26:41] of resilience is what you are talking about. In order for us to be able to have economic [00:26:45] resistance and to survive, to provide the conditions for the life and livelihood [00:26:49] of our people, how do we evaluate the situation on the other side? The issue [00:26:52] is that our problem with America, with America and the Western side, is different. [00:26:56] Our problem is life and death. Their problem is inflation, [00:27:00] higher or lower inflation. [00:27:28] in my opinion, they prepare it. Now, our friends should not mock that harsh winter. [00:27:32] What happened to the previous time? It happened. When we discuss [00:27:36] factionally, we don't want to see expert opinions. [00:27:39] We constantly try to mock [00:27:43] the other side. Federal Germany [00:27:46] and the entire European Union, in order [00:27:50] not to suffer from a harsh energy winter, [00:27:53] pulled down the wick of their economic growth. That means since the beginning [00:27:57] of the war, Europe, the Ukraine war, until now, [00:28:00] the average economic growth of the European Union has never reached one [00:28:04] percent. [00:28:06] There was an American scientist named Lester Thurow. In [00:28:10] 1373, [00:28:13] 33 years ago, 32 years ago, he wrote an [00:28:16] article, and in that article, he predicted that if [00:28:19] the average economic growth of America's gap [00:28:23] with the average economic growth of Europe remains at this level, [00:28:26] meaning America has more than twice the economic growth of Europe, [00:28:30] within a quarter-century, [00:28:33] which we are in now, we have reached it, [00:28:36] Europe will become a third-world country, [00:28:39] a third-world continent compared to America. [00:28:43] That means it's not like we can say Europe hasn't paid any costs, nothing has happened to it. [00:28:46] What about America itself? America itself is now facing reduced [00:28:50] growth, reduced economic growth. And you saw [00:28:53] that the Federal Reserve, when it raised interest [00:28:57] rates by 25 points, contrary [00:29:01] to Mr. Trump's opinion. [00:29:14] America is in trouble, which, contrary to the President's [00:29:18] opinion, they were forced to raise interest rates [00:29:21] to control inflation. And since a painless shot [00:29:25] has not yet been invented in economics, this is my own [00:29:29] sentence. From here. [00:30:34] a trial of resistance after months [00:30:37] of war, they gathered and declared their readiness [00:30:40] to take up arms. So [00:30:44] you can see for yourselves! [00:30:46] We are more than this. [00:30:50] We have weapons, [00:30:52] we have equipment. What kind do you want? The Los [00:30:56] Angeles Times says.