IRINN — broadcast 20261012 183000 UTC 515 transcript segments Google Cloud Speech-to-Text API (Chirp) + Gemini 2.5 Flash Non-Thinking Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:00:17] We have reached the end of this news collection. Thank you very much for your attention and companionship. [00:00:21] Have a peaceful night. Goodbye. [00:00:22] In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful. Good evening, [00:00:56] dear viewers. As usual, the news channel [00:01:00] at this hour presents a special news interview tonight. [00:01:04] We will present it to you and tonight we will talk [00:01:07] about the developments in Yemen and Saudi Arabia. [00:01:10] Well, recently, the attacks [00:01:13] of Ansarullah on Saudi airports once [00:01:16] again placed the tension between Riyadh and Sanaa at [00:01:19] the top of political developments. Developments that, in addition [00:01:23] to the battlefield equations of war, have affected [00:01:27] the management of strategic routes in the Red Sea [00:01:30] and especially Bab al-Mandab. Tonight, we will try [00:01:34] to analyze the various dimensions of this tension [00:01:37] with the presence of Dr. Saadollah Zarei, [00:01:41] political analyst and West Asia expert. [00:01:45] Hello and good evening, and welcome. Thank you. [00:01:48] I would like to extend my greetings to you and [00:01:51] to our dear viewers, and wish you a good evening. [00:01:55] Thank you very much. In recent days, especially the attacks [00:01:58] by Ansarullah on King Khalid Airport in [00:02:02] Riyadh received a lot of media coverage. [00:02:06] Why have airports now become [00:02:08] targets of Ansarullah, and what is your analysis [00:02:12] of the recent tensions? In the name of Allah, [00:02:15] the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful. [00:02:17] Ansarullah is under [00:02:21] the influence of the situation that [00:02:24] the Saudis have imposed on Yemen for the past 12 [00:02:28] years. [00:02:30] That is, on the one hand, there is the issue of siege, [00:02:34] which during these 12 years [00:02:37] Yemen has been under siege by Saudi Arabia [00:02:40] by sea, by air (meaning airports), and by [00:02:44] land. And also from the perspective of war, [00:02:47] during this period, at least for 9 years, the Saudis, [00:02:51] along with a coalition of about [00:02:55] 19 countries, attacked Yemen. Now [00:02:59] the Saudis are still constantly attacking [00:03:02] Yemen. Just today we witnessed their attack on the [00:03:06] Jawf region. The Yemenis say [00:03:09] that these two actions [00:03:13] must be resolved. [00:03:17] One is the lifting of the siege, including the reopening of the [00:03:20] airport, and the other is the issue of [00:03:24] ending the war. Well, these are two logical demands [00:03:28] that the Yemenis are making. Any country [00:03:31] wants, if there is a war, [00:03:34] it should end, and if [00:03:38] it is under siege, the siege should be lifted, just as the Islamic Republic also [00:03:42] has the same view regarding the siege and sanctions. [00:03:45] The Saudis have not [00:03:49] peacefully and through [00:03:52] negotiations, both bilateral between Yemen [00:03:55] and Saudi Arabia and trilateral with [00:03:59] Oman's hosting, [00:04:01] accepted these two logical demands. In addition, [00:04:05] restrictions against [00:04:09] Yemen were increased, [00:04:12] meaning new pressures were imposed [00:04:16] to the point that when the Yemenis wanted to receive [00:04:19] a plane to land [00:04:23] in Sanaa so that they could [00:04:26] attend the farewell ceremony for the body of the martyred [00:04:30] leader of the revolution in Tehran, the Saudis did not allow [00:04:34] even one flight between Yemen [00:04:38] and Iran to be established, and attacked Sanaa airport, [00:04:41] so the flight was forced to land in Hodeidah. [00:04:44] Therefore, the restrictions continued. [00:04:48] Ansarullah came about two months [00:04:50] ago and said that these two actions [00:04:54] must happen. If the Saudis [00:04:57] do not peacefully agree, [00:05:01] we will reciprocate [00:05:05] with similar actions against Saudi Arabia. [00:05:08] That is, we will make [00:05:11] this siege that is on [00:05:15] Yemen directed at [00:05:18] Saudi Arabia. We will put Saudi ports and [00:05:22] export centers under siege or under [00:05:25] military pressure. And so, they started [00:05:28] actions in [00:05:31] the Red Sea against Saudi oil export centers [00:05:34] and also regarding [00:05:38] airports, that since [00:05:40] the airport here cannot be active, [00:05:44] then Saudi airports can also be closed. [00:05:48] And so, they started [00:05:51] directing attacks at Saudi airports. [00:05:55] And what's interesting is that in recent days, they [00:05:58] have attacked three airport centers [00:06:01] in three locations in Saudi Arabia [00:06:04] symbolically. One of their attacks [00:06:08] was on Abha Airport, which is on the border of Yemen [00:06:11] and near the Red Sea, [00:06:15] and another attack was on Dammam Airport, [00:06:18] which is in the eastern part [00:06:22] of Saudi Arabia and [00:06:25] near the coasts of [00:06:28] the Persian Gulf, and also on Riyadh, [00:06:32] which is in the center of Saudi Arabia. [00:06:35] That is, geographically, it is located in the [00:06:38] center of Saudi Arabia, and they attacked these three points in a short [00:06:42] time. And they practically disrupted flights at these three [00:06:45] points in Saudi Arabia. That is, they showed [00:06:49] that if Saudi Arabia does not lift [00:06:53] the aerial siege of Yemen, [00:06:57] the Yemenis have the ability to disrupt [00:06:59] Saudi flights. Just in the past two [00:07:03] days, Ansarullah announced [00:07:06] that the sky of Saudi [00:07:10] Arabia is not safe [00:07:13] except for Mecca and Medina, and no flights should [00:07:16] take place. A siege actually happened. Yes, [00:07:20] and also, [00:07:23] Ansarullah's warning led to [00:07:26] a large number of flights [00:07:29] to Saudi Arabia [00:07:32] being canceled in the past two [00:07:35] days. And even some [00:07:39] reputable European airlines [00:07:42] announced that they will suspend flights to Saudi Arabia [00:07:45] until March 1. That is, from this Mehr [00:07:48] until Esfand, which is about a five or six [00:07:52] month period, they said they will not have [00:07:55] any flights. Therefore, it is clear that [00:07:59] the Yemenis have the ability to reciprocally [00:08:03] impose a siege on Saudi Arabia. It is feasible for them. In addition to that, the issue of [00:08:06] ending the war is also something the Yemenis [00:08:10] are addressing with the attacks [00:08:12] they have carried out in the past few days, both within Yemen. You see, [00:08:16] in just the past day or two, the Yemenis [00:08:20] fought in Ta'izz and made [00:08:23] progress. Now, just tonight, there was news [00:08:26] that they have gained control over the Jabal al-Arus heights, for example, [00:08:30] and are completely gaining control [00:08:33] over Ta'izz. They had attacks in Lahj [00:08:37] which is adjacent to the Ta'izz region, [00:08:40] and at the same time, in the south, [00:08:43] they had operations in the relatively northern region of Yemen, [00:08:47] and at the same time, while [00:08:50] the Yemenis were engaged on these two [00:08:54] or three fronts, they also [00:08:57] carried out operations at Saudi oil facilities [00:09:00] and also directed attacks at [00:09:03] Saudi airports, including today's [00:09:07] attack on King Khalid Airport. Therefore, it is completely clear that [00:09:10] if the Saudis do not [00:09:12] logically submit to [00:09:15] these two humanitarian demands of the Yemenis, [00:09:19] that is, lifting the siege, there is no justification [00:09:23] for it against a nation. Or a foreign war against a [00:09:27] nation is not justified. Ansarullah has no motivation [00:09:30] to attack Saudi Arabia or [00:09:34] to impose a siege on Saudi Arabia. It wants to live its own life, [00:09:37] and in this situation where the Saudis do not want [00:09:41] the Yemenis [00:09:45] to live their normal lives, naturally the Yemenis also use their power to resolve these issues. [00:09:49] And the fact that Saudi Arabia is now under attack by Ansarullah of Yemen, [00:09:52] but nevertheless it also takes retaliatory actions. Its attacks [00:09:56] continue, and it is targeting Ansarullah's positions [00:10:00] in various locations, even in a [00:10:03] perhaps barbaric way. Some villages [00:10:07] are experiencing what is described as a massacre being committed by Saudi Arabia. [00:10:10] Despite the fact that Saudi Arabia [00:10:14] faced that response from the Americans or sought help from other countries, [00:10:18] it did not receive a very firm answer, [00:10:21] and it knows what power Ansar is now dealing with. [00:10:30] The Saudis have assumed something that is really a false [00:10:34] assumption, and that assumption is that [00:10:37] if the Yemenis gain strength [00:10:41] in the south of the peninsula, Saudi Arabia, [00:10:44] the UAE, Kuwait, Qatar, [00:10:47] Bahrain, and this group of [00:10:50] countries, countries that have lived [00:10:54] in a quasi-federation under the [00:10:57] influence and sovereignty of the West for about [00:11:01] 80 to 90 years (not all of them, [00:11:05] Saudi Arabia for 80 to 90 years, some like the UAE [00:11:08] for about 50 to 60 years) [00:11:12] will no longer be able to maintain that cohesive [00:11:16] federal state, and Saudi Arabia [00:11:19] will not have its former [00:11:22] power. Yemen has the capacity [00:11:25] to take over [00:11:29] Saudi Arabia's former role. In addition, [00:11:32] this ideology of Yemeni resistance [00:11:36] against the West and against Israel [00:11:39] and against American [00:11:42] and Israeli agents on the other side of the water, [00:11:45] meaning towards Africa, [00:11:48] in Somalia, Djibouti, [00:11:51] Eritrea, Sudan, [00:11:55] and throughout this entire [00:11:57] region, has buyers. [00:12:01] This ideology will definitely [00:12:04] expand, and [00:12:07] Saudi Arabia will be in a besieged [00:12:11] situation. How is it besieged? Well, to the north of [00:12:14] Saudi Arabia is Iran [00:12:18] and Iraq. To its south is [00:12:21] Yemen. To the west of Saudi Arabia [00:12:24] are the countries on the western [00:12:27] coast of the Red Sea, the African countries I mentioned. [00:12:31] If these are in a relatively [00:12:34] aggressive stance towards Saudi Arabia, [00:12:37] Saudi Arabia's geopolitical position [00:12:41] will severely decline, and [00:12:43] events will [00:12:47] certainly happen in Saudi Arabia, because it is impossible [00:12:50] for a geographical environment [00:12:54] from the north, which is Iran, [00:12:57] and from its northwest, which is Iraq, [00:13:00] and from its south, which is Yemen, and from [00:13:03] the western coasts of the Red Sea, which are these African countries [00:13:06] and now have this potential, to be under pressure [00:13:10] and for this to have no impact on Saudi Arabia's geography. [00:13:14] So why does it continue? Look, [00:13:17] the Saudis have started a, in my opinion, stupid game. [00:13:21] They feel that there is no other way for them, [00:13:24] and they are choosing that. And you see, [00:13:28] in just these few days, what has happened? [00:13:31] What crazy things has Saudi Arabia done? [00:13:35] For example, a $12 billion [00:13:38] contract for the purchase of surface-to-surface [00:13:42] and surface-to-air missiles. The Saudis pursued [00:13:45] it, although its roots were in the past. They activated [00:13:49] this contract. $12 billion [00:13:52] purchase for war with Yemen. This is really [00:13:55] while Ansar says, "Why do you want to fight? We [00:13:59] have nothing to do with you. We want our own country. We want [00:14:03] our own land." Even these Yemenis [00:14:06] whose center is Sanaa, they don't say [00:14:09] all of Yemen. That is, now they don't claim that they want [00:14:12] to take Aden, to take Hadhramaut, [00:14:16] to take Shabwah, I don't know, they don't want to take these regions [00:14:20] at all. They have no motivation to expand [00:14:23] their position in the eastern parts [00:14:26] of Yemen. They say, "Why do you want to fight? [00:14:30] Well, we have nothing to do with you. We say, lift our siege, [00:14:33] and stop the war. You also go live your own life." [00:14:37] But they came and made a $12 billion contract. They [00:14:41] asked Syria and Afghanistan for military [00:14:44] aid, meaning military [00:14:46] forces [00:14:48] that have a history of guerrilla wars [00:14:52] to come and help here. They asked America to [00:14:56] help them by air. [00:14:58] They asked the UAE for help. [00:15:01] They asked Turkey, Pakistan, [00:15:04] and Egypt for help. [00:15:08] They asked countries [00:15:11] like Kuwait in their surrounding [00:15:14] environment for help. They are trying [00:15:17] to start a coalition [00:15:21] and solve their problem. [00:15:25] Well, you've done this before, and it didn't work. [00:15:28] Yes, in 2015, [00:15:32] when you waged war against [00:15:35] Yemen, you brought 19 countries to the table. You [00:15:38] got a UN resolution, and at that time, [00:15:41] when you did all these things, these Yemenis [00:15:45] were almost one-third [00:15:49] or one-fortieth of their current power. [00:15:52] There was no ability to launch ballistic missiles in Yemen [00:15:56] in 2015. It didn't work then, and now that you [00:15:59] came with 19 countries, it didn't [00:16:03] work, and you failed. You fought for 9 years, and now [00:16:06] you're doing it again in an environment where everyone [00:16:10] is talking about the region being on fire. Let's do something [00:16:14] to de-escalate the situation, [00:16:17] to control it. Everyone is trying to control the fire, [00:16:21] and you have come and are stirring up the fire in Yemen again. [00:16:25] Well, this is clearly foolish and leads [00:16:28] nowhere. Why does Saudi Arabia [00:16:32] continue this? With a wrong analysis [00:16:35] that this is a war of, as they say, [00:16:39] life and death. If I don't win here, [00:16:42] my death is certain. And in my opinion, the Saudis [00:16:46] are orchestrating this foolish game [00:16:49] against themselves. In addition, some [00:16:52] countries like the UAE are very upset [00:16:56] about this. That is, Bin Zayed is very upset about what [00:16:59] is happening to Bin Salman. He is not at all happy. [00:17:03] And the Saudis had a security defense agreement [00:17:07] with Pakistan and Turkey, but apart [00:17:10] from some advisory events and intelligence that may or may not [00:17:13] be useful to them, they have not directly [00:17:17] entered this matter. It seems that Saudi Arabia [00:17:20] also made a wrong calculation regarding Ansarullah's capabilities, [00:17:23] and relied too much [00:17:27] on American support. The Saudis did not think that all [00:17:31] the services they provided here would be [00:17:35] without reward. Furthermore, [00:17:37] both the UAE [00:17:41] and Pakistan and Turkey [00:17:44] and Egypt and even America [00:17:48] and even the Zionist regime [00:17:52] are extremely cautious when facing the Yemenis. [00:17:56] All of them, in some way, at some point, [00:17:59] have been struck by the Yemenis. [00:18:03] That is, Israel has been struck. [00:18:07] At one time, Yemen was its problem. [00:18:10] In the Gaza War, the Americans were struck separately. [00:18:14] In the incident of hitting the ship and Trump's retreat, [00:18:18] it was the Yemenis who in a way, [00:18:21] Turkey had previously been struck during the Ottoman period. It was defeated once by the Yemenis. [00:18:25] The Egyptians were defeated once by the Yemenis. [00:18:28] The Pakistanis were struck in some places and [00:18:31] are still vulnerable. Therefore, everyone [00:18:35] is being cautious. For example, they came [00:18:37] and asked Syria for [00:18:41] help. Well, Syria's situation is clear. The situation of this [00:18:44] Mr. Mohammad al-Jolani is also clear regarding Saudi Arabia. They consider [00:18:48] themselves sons of Saudi Arabia, [00:18:51] but right here, when Saudi Arabia [00:18:54] made a request, the spokesman for this movement [00:18:58] announced that while we [00:19:01] are with our Saudi brothers, no such request [00:19:05] has been made to us, [00:19:07] while it has been made, and they could not [00:19:10] come forward. They know they are not a match. [00:19:14] They are no match for the brave Yemenis. Therefore, [00:19:18] everyone is being cautious. In my opinion, it is completely in the Saudis' best interest [00:19:21] to respond positively to these [00:19:24] signs of peace. Now, the Yemenis [00:19:28] have repeatedly raised this in private negotiations [00:19:32] and in public statements, just as you know, the Islamic Republic [00:19:35] today or yesterday, [00:19:39] Mr. Araghchi had a phone call [00:19:42] today with Bin Farhan, [00:19:45] the Saudi Foreign Minister, and said that we [00:19:48] are ready to establish a peace process and dialogue between [00:19:52] Yemen and Saudi Arabia, because [00:19:55] this peace in fact [00:19:58] entails those two points. That is, when [00:20:01] the Yemenis talk about peace, or [00:20:05] Iran talks about establishing [00:20:07] peaceful relations between Saudi Arabia and Yemen, [00:20:10] it means a peace without [00:20:13] war, a cessation of war or an end [00:20:17] to war, and a peace without siege. These are the two [00:20:20] main demands of the Yemenis. And Iran, based on [00:20:23] this, had this conversation with Bin Farhan. [00:20:27] Of course, they gave an arrogant answer. What [00:20:31] Bin Farhan published [00:20:34] was that yes, Mr. Araghchi called [00:20:38] and talked about Iran's concerns about [00:20:41] regional issues, while we, [00:20:44] who are at the peak of honor and power, and the Yemenis are also [00:20:48] at the peak of honor and power. [00:20:54] Mr. Araghchi specified in his tweet, or statement, [00:20:57] that it was only about Yemen, not about the region. [00:21:01] And regarding the region, we have shown [00:21:05] our friendship that Mr. Saudi, [00:21:08] who is under pressure, well, accept these two demands of Yemen, [00:21:12] and this war will end. In my opinion, the Saudis [00:21:16] are in a position where they feel [00:21:20] difficulty regarding this war. That is, they feel that they either [00:21:23] have to win or they have to leave, and apparently they have gone [00:21:27] and chosen between these two issues. Now, you mentioned [00:21:30] a foolish act, as you described it, the purchase of $12 billion. [00:21:34] In this incident of hitting [00:21:38] King Khalid Riyadh, it was said that no [00:21:40] air defense system worked. That is, Ansarullah's missiles [00:21:44] passed very easily. This is also [00:21:47] a strange incident. Despite [00:21:51] all the investments Saudi Arabia made in buying equipment, [00:21:54] especially from the Americans, these investments [00:21:56] did not pay off today. Well, basically, the performance [00:22:00] of the defensive air defense systems that have emerged [00:22:04] in this war they had with Iran, neither THAAD [00:22:07] systems succeeded, nor Patriot [00:22:11] systems succeeded, nor F-35s succeeded, [00:22:14] nor BDA systems succeeded. All [00:22:18] defensive systems, even where there were multiple [00:22:21] layers, Aramco itself, which was [00:22:24] hit and today [00:22:28] the Aramco CEO warned that the situation is getting worse, [00:22:31] well, it had multiple layers of defense. [00:22:35] This war with Iran showed [00:22:38] that there is a power that [00:22:42] can penetrate these layers. The Yemenis have also penetrated them, [00:22:46] and you know that [00:22:49] now the protective coverings of American, [00:22:52] Saudi, and other facilities [00:22:55] in the region have been weakened since before the Iran war, [00:22:59] because these systems have been damaged. [00:23:02] That is, over [00:23:06] 50% of the air defense systems that the Americans had [00:23:09] established here, both individually and in multiple layers, [00:23:13] have all been damaged. That is, they no longer [00:23:16] have the air defense power they had before the war. [00:23:19] And furthermore, there is no longer any trust [00:23:22] in these air defense systems, and it is clear [00:23:26] that neither Aramco is safe with these [00:23:29] coverings, nor are airports safe, nor are military centers [00:23:32] safe, nor are ships safe. There is no [00:23:35] safe location in the region anymore. [00:23:38] And of course, Iran is really not seeking war, [00:23:42] and Ansarullah is not seeking war either. However, we are in a situation [00:23:45] where we must defend ourselves, our interests, [00:23:49] our existence, our rights. [00:23:52] And if this defense is not met with a positive [00:23:56] response, meaning if they do not peacefully [00:23:59] accept our rights, well, we are forced [00:24:03] to use force to achieve our rights, [00:24:06] and the use of force is not in the interest of the Saudis, [00:24:10] the Emiratis, the Kuwaitis, and these southern countries in particular. [00:24:13] This is something that everyone understands [00:24:17] and has been discussed many times. [00:24:20] Right now, regarding the issue of Russia and that agreement they made with the Americans [00:24:23] and Trump specifically, the Westerners are very [00:24:27] disillusioned by this. [00:24:30] That is, their feeling is that Trump sold [00:24:33] Zelensky and all of Ukraine and Europe [00:24:37] for Russia, for those 300 thousand tons of diesel. Now [00:24:41] it is said that Saudi Arabia also has such a feeling towards [00:24:44] Trump. That is, practically all those who were somehow supported [00:24:47] by America or had a coalition [00:24:50] with America have now come to the conclusion that he cannot be relied upon at all. [00:24:54] That is, when you need him, he only thinks about his own interests, [00:24:57] even if it's for 300 thousand tons of diesel, which practically [00:25:01] doesn't even have much utility for your economy and energy, [00:25:04] but for those same 30 thousand tons, he is willing [00:25:08] to break off his relationship with Ukraine and Zelensky or [00:25:12] even with Europe. Exactly. If you put the statements [00:25:15] of Zelensky and the statements of Bin Salman [00:25:19] next to each other, they are very similar. That is, [00:25:22] the language of despair, complaint, [00:25:26] criticism regarding the type of cooperation [00:25:29] that should be with them, regarding the fact that [00:25:32] a coalition cannot be formed. Countries that claimed [00:25:36] support have taken a step back. [00:25:39] Consider these things. Then, besides this issue, [00:25:43] something else bothers them, and that is [00:25:47] that the Islamic Republic, unlike [00:25:50] America, strongly supports [00:25:53] its allies, because the first [00:25:56] clause of the Islamabad agreement was very powerful. [00:25:59] Iran, with all its power, supports Hezbollah. [00:26:03] Now, Hezbollah is [00:26:06] a revolutionary organization. It is not [00:26:10] a government, it is not a country, [00:26:12] in a way. It supports Hamas, which is not a country, [00:26:16] with all its power, as much as it can. [00:26:19] This retreat by the Americans [00:26:22] creates an image in the region [00:26:26] that the Islamic Republic strongly supports its allies. [00:26:30] This image creates a question of who [00:26:33] can be trusted and who cannot be trusted. In my opinion, [00:26:36] this bothers them more than the first issue [00:26:39] for countries that have connected themselves [00:26:42] to America. And now, what is America's situation? [00:26:46] On the one hand, if it wants to come to the aid of Saudi Arabia [00:26:50] against Ansarullah, well, they say one of the reasons for the Americans' [00:26:53] reluctance to intervene is that they do not [00:26:57] want to lose their focus on Iran in this matter, because if they get involved, [00:27:00] then they might have problems regarding Iran. [00:27:04] If they get involved with Ansarullah, we will face problems on this side. If they don't get involved, [00:27:08] well, Ansarullah is putting pressure on them on that side. [00:27:11] What is America's situation in these circumstances, in your opinion? Exactly, you have pointed [00:27:15] to the main issue, the contradiction [00:27:19] in America's situation. [00:27:21] The Americans have 24 or 25 [00:27:25] years of experience of war in our region. [00:27:28] All of them are failed experiences. [00:27:31] Failure in Afghanistan and that [00:27:35] disgraceful escape in 2021. Failure in Iraq, [00:27:39] they failed twice in Iraq and [00:27:42] fled. Once they fled in 2009. [00:27:46] From 2009 to [00:27:49] 2011. [00:27:51] And once they fled this October, this current [00:27:54] October. On October 8th, they [00:27:58] withdrew all their military forces from Iraq. A very great achievement [00:28:02] for [00:28:05] this, for example, their experience in Iraq. Their experience in [00:28:08] Lebanon, that incident that happened [00:28:11] in 1984, [00:28:14] or 1984, [00:28:18] when the American center in Beirut was hit, [00:28:21] and more than 240 American [00:28:25] Marines were killed, and America fled [00:28:29] Lebanon and has not returned to this day. [00:28:33] America's defeat in the war with Iran, America's [00:28:36] defeat in the conflict with these Yemenis [00:28:40] in the past year, where America withdrew, [00:28:44] well, these are experiences of failure. [00:28:48] This experience of failure tells the entire ruling establishment [00:28:51] of America, both the Republican Party, which [00:28:55] is in power, and the Democrats, who are in the Senate [00:28:59] or elsewhere, their experience is that they should not get involved. [00:29:03] Involvement brings no benefits [00:29:06] for them. This is America's experience. Another point is [00:29:09] that the Republican Party and Trump himself, [00:29:13] who is in power, for the elections that will be held [00:29:17] in [00:29:19] front of him. He needs [00:29:23] peace for those elections. And so you see that [00:29:27] the Israelis are under pressure [00:29:30] to fight for their survival. [00:30:12] In this atmosphere, as you see the big contradiction [00:30:15] in the behavior of Americans and Europeans regarding Ukraine today, [00:30:18] on this side, Americans are trying to lower [00:30:22] the flames in Ukraine, and on the other side, [00:30:25] today, Europeans announced 300 new sanctions against [00:30:28] Russia. This shows how much distance there is [00:30:32] between positions and how much tension [00:30:35] and trouble there is. What is this due to? It is due to [00:30:39] defeat. In the Ukraine case, the Westerners [00:30:42] were defeated. They could not do anything for Ukraine, [00:30:45] and also in the case of the [00:30:48] Iran war.