IRINN — broadcast 20261102 183000 UTC 503 transcript segments Google Cloud Speech-to-Text API (Chirp) + Gemini 2.5 Flash Non-Thinking Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:00:22] In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful. Hello, good evening. Welcome to tonight's [00:00:26] special news conversation. In the year 130, [00:00:30] the Supreme Council of Cyberspace, through the National Cyberspace Center, [00:00:34] was established with the aim of creating a focal point [00:00:36] for policy-making, decision-making, and coordination in the country's cyberspace. [00:00:40] This was an initiative of the martyred leader of the Islamic Revolution. [00:00:43] It came into existence and after almost [00:00:47] 15 years since the establishment of this institution and the rapid developments [00:00:51] in the field of cyberspace and artificial intelligence, [00:00:54] which have influenced the governance of the country's space, [00:00:58] tonight we intend to discuss these conditions [00:01:02] with Dr. Aqamiri, the respected Secretary of the Supreme Council of Cyberspace, [00:01:06] and analyze the issues under [00:01:08] this topic, for which we have the honor of hosting him. Hello, good evening, [00:01:12] and welcome to tonight's special news conversation. In the name of Allah, [00:01:16] the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful. I extend my greetings and respect to all [00:01:19] dear viewers and to you, Dr. Khosravi, and [00:01:23] we are at your service to, God willing, expand on this topic. Thank you very much for [00:01:27] your presence. Since we have been through wartime conditions [00:01:30] and these conditions are not yet over, if you agree, [00:01:34] let's start with the topic of war and how much [00:01:38] our cyberspace was affected by [00:01:42] the war situation. [00:01:45] Look, in the documents, various countries, from [00:01:49] the European Union to the United States of America and other [00:01:53] countries, consider five areas as [00:01:56] battlegrounds: land, sea, and air, which have existed [00:02:00] traditionally. Space and [00:02:02] cyber domains have been added to these domains in recent [00:02:06] years. In the cyber domain, [00:02:09] there are also many classifications. I will mention three of the most [00:02:13] important ones, which, incidentally, are mostly used by our enemies against our country. [00:02:17] The first one, which is more [00:02:20] mysterious, and people might have heard a lot about it, [00:02:24] is cyberattacks, which they call hacking, infiltration, and so on. [00:02:27] Well, this is the first area [00:02:30] that we were involved in before the war, intensified [00:02:34] during the war, and did not stop or cease. [00:02:37] So, we are still fighting the enemy [00:02:41] in this area, containing their attacks, [00:02:44] and thank God, most of their attacks have been contained, although [00:02:47] in some places, they have managed to inflict [00:02:50] damage. The second area is the use of cyberspace [00:02:54] data for military purposes, meaning where they come [00:02:58] and set up their network [00:03:01] for terror, for destruction, for causing damage, and they use it extensively. [00:03:05] That's the second area. Or the third area, [00:03:08] which in the documents of many [00:03:12] countries is identified as one of the top five threats in recent years, [00:03:15] is the discussion of cognitive operations and [00:03:18] misinformation or deceptive information, which mostly targets [00:03:22] public opinion, people's resilience, and [00:03:25] creating tension for the psychological security of the people. And we were involved in it. [00:03:29] That's right. Yes, we were involved in all three of them during the war, and [00:03:33] thank God, our country's children have done many valuable [00:03:36] and good things, meaning they were able to neutralize [00:03:40] and stop many of the plans that the enemy had planned [00:03:43] and hoped for. In the offensive [00:03:46] domain, did we also have a plan in the cyber domain? Well, [00:03:50] I don't know about those. [00:03:53] Meaning, the actions that Iran had taken, or if it intended [00:03:57] to take them, you now, sir, very. [00:04:20] There were heavy blows. It's in their own reports, published in their news. Many of their services [00:04:24] were disrupted, and things they didn't understand [00:04:27] where they were hit from, yes, after all, everyone is there. [00:04:31] Supporters of the Islamic Revolution, thank God, a help [00:04:34] is being sent to them. The issue [00:04:36] of people's psychological security in cyberspace is also very important, [00:04:40] especially in wartime conditions. Do you also have any input [00:04:43] in this area, or were actions taken, or [00:04:46] is it planned for the future? Look, [00:04:50] in this area, we have some proactive measures, like passive measures. [00:04:53] One of the most important things is this [00:04:57] transparent, accurate, and fast information dissemination. [00:05:00] When the enemy starts using misinformation, [00:05:04] deceptive information to bombard and constantly say such and such [00:05:07] a problem exists, they keep focusing on one issue and repeating [00:05:11] it until it becomes a big deal for all of us. Well, we address this with correct [00:05:15] and proper information dissemination in our social networks, [00:05:19] among organizations and agencies. A part of this work is being done, and a part [00:05:22] of it is, after all, the enemy's tools for this [00:05:25] influence. And just as we use our social networks for [00:05:29] transparency and information dissemination, they are also [00:05:32] doing this work. [00:05:35] And in this process, we try [00:05:38] when they start operating in their network, what does operation in the network mean? It means they have a tool and can deliver [00:05:43] some content, some data to some people. [00:05:46] When they manipulate this data [00:05:50] to guide everyone in a specific direction, [00:05:53] we suddenly see that in normal circumstances, networks have various [00:05:57] concerns, different types exist in different networks. When [00:06:01] suddenly all networks focus on one issue, it's called platform [00:06:04] convergence. This means that [00:06:07] the person sitting behind it has given an order for everyone to focus on this area [00:06:11] and do this [00:06:17] work. Now, the more we can reduce the enemy's penetration rate for influence, the more advantageous it will be for us. How is this penetration [00:06:21] reduced? Through what mechanism can it happen? [00:06:25] With us, [00:06:28] in fact, we manage this access, and limited [00:06:31] access occurs. Access that can [00:06:35] exist from the enemy, yes, those channels that exist for this to happen, [00:06:39] and on the other hand, strengthening domestic [00:06:41] channels, those who don't want to operate [00:06:45] against our people, our own networks where people can really [00:06:49] have a suitable and good life. How much [00:06:52] information dominance do we have in the field of cyberspace, especially during wartime? [00:06:56] Well, it's very important that we have intelligence [00:07:00] dominance over the enemy so that we can both predict [00:07:03] and monitor many of their actions before they happen, [00:07:07] and neutralize them. And also, when they take actions, [00:07:10] how much intelligence dominance do we have over the enemy? [00:07:21] That means wherever there's a network, access exists, [00:07:24] and this is for everyone. [00:07:27] Second, look, the enemy is [00:07:30] doing a bad thing. We always, for example, [00:07:34] our mindset is like this, meaning in Iran, I think [00:07:38] everyone's feeling is the opposite of this. We always like progress. We want to develop new technologies, [00:07:42] do innovative work [00:07:46] to have a better, easier life, a healthier space, [00:07:49] to live better. The enemy has come [00:07:52] and is using this technology for crime and murder and so on. [00:07:56] I mean, it's surprising that a technology that can be used to do a thousand good things, [00:08:00] they use it for that one bad thing. They start [00:08:03] doing it with it. [00:08:05] This is how it is. The opponent is so predatory, [00:08:09] so savage. He's got a tool in his hand, he bites. Well, now you've given him a tool, [00:08:13] you've given him the cyberspace tool, and he starts [00:08:17] using his intelligent systems, [00:08:20] using his hardware and various vendors [00:08:24] he has. He starts using everything. Look, [00:08:27] here [00:08:29] it's [00:08:32] easy to say, look, we know who is doing what. [00:08:35] If that startup network [00:08:39] that is currently working with the regime's military [00:08:43] industries, with the main focus on the regime's aerospace [00:08:46] industries, I'm being transparent, their [00:08:49] hands are stained with the blood of our people. [00:08:53] Now you're generally saying that startup network, some people might think that this is a claim [00:08:57] we are making. Can we name them, Dr.? [00:09:00] Their names, which they know that we know, well, [00:09:04] for example, there's Exxon, Exxon UAV Vision, I don't [00:09:08] know, [00:09:23] we forget and these [00:09:26] are operating against our people in a military war. These [00:09:30] are involved in terror, in assassinations, in various [00:09:33] activities, and [00:09:36] I think it's better that those who work [00:09:40] there decide sooner for their own future [00:09:43] to leave that place and not cooperate anymore. These companies [00:09:47] should cut their ties, because after all, these are the enemy's [00:09:51] war tools. The enemy is using the data they produce [00:09:54] to operate against our people. Their hands are stained with the blood [00:09:58] of our people. Can these three companies be clearly identified as what they were [00:10:01] doing or are doing? These are now details. These are in areas [00:10:05] where they are developing tools so that they can carry out more operations [00:10:09] and attacks, more frequently. They are directly [00:10:13] involved. That means in the field of terror, identifying targets, these [00:10:16] three companies are directly involved. Or they are providing products [00:10:20] to the military industries that are being used for these purposes. [00:10:22] It has tomorrow. [00:10:26] And this warning you gave that they should cut off cooperation [00:10:29] or essentially terminate their contract, [00:10:33] after all, parents tell their children, "Son, it's not good there, be careful." [00:10:37] What will happen? Well, we will see what [00:10:40] happens. [00:10:43] Do you have more information about these companies and this intelligence dominance, [00:10:47] regarding what other actions are taking place against us [00:10:51] in the cyber domain, and we know these things are happening? [00:10:55] These guys are trying to disrupt [00:10:58] the country's various systems and undermine [00:11:02] the people's psychological peace. Well, these are the same APT teams [00:11:06] that we know. They are coming and, after all, causing [00:11:09] disruptions, causing problems, and [00:11:12] these are all their tools. [00:11:16] They are revealing everything they have, meaning things that [00:11:20] they might have kept for years for a rainy day, they are using them. [00:11:23] Now their rainy day has come. Look, when someone [00:11:26] comes and wipes our firmware, [00:11:29] a switch's firmware, and locks it [00:11:32] so no one can upload anything on it, that manufacturing [00:11:36] company has clearly cooperated. That manufacturing [00:11:40] company will lose its reputation worldwide. [00:11:43] That means someone comes and tarnishes the reputation of a tech giant to strike [00:11:47] a blow to us. Well, experts [00:11:51] all over the world will hear about this. This is not something that will remain between [00:11:54] four people. No one will understand. [00:11:58] The other party is using up the credibility it has built in the market for years. [00:12:01] This means that it is revealing everything it has [00:12:05] to deliver a serious blow, and by God's grace, [00:12:08] thank God, [00:12:10] the people working in this field have really done wonders. They are in various agencies, [00:12:14] in the agencies of the organizations themselves, in some more professional [00:12:17] and focused groups. We have them in this field who help organizations. [00:12:21] All this network that is active here has truly been active during these days. [00:12:25] Maybe in the past 8 months, they have been busy every day. [00:12:29] And by God's grace, our [00:12:32] services are now power-just. Maybe some of them had problems for a few days, [00:12:36] went up and down, which people don't feel. That is, people did feel it, [00:12:39] but most don't feel it. No, they don't feel the wartime conditions in cyber [00:12:43] because such stability is happening. [00:12:47] They don't feel that wartime conditions exist. [00:12:50] Things are really happening, and their news is not published, [00:12:54] but some people are working 24 hours a day. [00:13:25] And the fact that identity verification doesn't happen, these are not the case. These are not global [00:13:29] accountability-takers. These are not accountability-takers. Well, [00:13:32] but among these professionals, there are some signatures. [00:13:36] For example, this signature belongs to such and such a group. They leave their signature and go. [00:13:39] They don't take responsibility. That country and that intelligence [00:13:43] dominance is here. Everyone here [00:13:46] knows everyone, and they will come into that same circle. We will see what [00:13:50] will happen, meaning it will be among our legitimate targets. If [00:13:54] the Geneva Convention. Any technology, [00:13:58] any tool that is used [00:14:01] against a country in war is considered a weapon of war. This is the text [00:14:05] of the Geneva Convention. All countries have signed it and accept [00:14:08] it. It's not strange that we say whoever used [00:14:12] this tool against our people in war is considered a weapon of war according [00:14:15] to the same convention. And the definition of a weapon of war [00:14:18] is clear. In fact, now the decision-maker [00:14:21] and the priorities that the country has determine which area. [00:14:28] It's not our area, but these are all, according to the Geneva Convention, tools [00:14:31] that are being used against our people in war, and we have now proven that, [00:14:35] apart from intelligence dominance, we have the ability to counter [00:14:39] all these threats and attacks, and [00:14:42] its manifestation is the stability of our network and services [00:14:46] that people use daily. That's right, to sum [00:14:49] up, and we always have a saying that many times [00:14:53] they want to create fear. They want to scare us, saying, "Oh, such [00:14:56] and such a technology cannot be done anything about anymore." We have [00:14:59] a saying that history has proven, and that is: [00:15:03] technology can be controlled by technology. [00:15:05] Now, we will get to that later, meaning we will name it and talk about it. [00:15:09] But before that, on the occasion of the publication [00:15:13] and unveiling of this book, "Cyberspace Governance [00:15:16] in the Thought of the Martyred Leader, Imam Ayatollah [00:15:20] Seyed Ali Khamenei, may Allah purify his soul," which this book [00:15:24] was recently published and unveiled by the Office for the Preservation and Publication of the Works of the Martyred Leader of the Revolution, [00:15:27] I want to enter this area to discuss the logic [00:15:31] of this cyberspace governance [00:15:35] that the revered Leader emphasized so much. [00:15:39] What is it, and to what extent have we been successful [00:15:42] in establishing this governance in cyberspace? [00:15:44] Well, truly, [00:15:48] when one reads the history of this country, [00:15:52] from the entry of the internet in the year seventy-something, [00:15:55] the martyred Imam welcomed it and issued [00:15:59] three decrees that have been widely published in the media. [00:16:03] And he, since the entry of this [00:16:06] technology into the country, [00:16:09] from the organization of this technology in those general policies that were in place even before the establishment of the council, [00:16:12] many people probably think that the national information network belongs to [00:16:16] the Cyberspace Council. No, the national network was an order he had issued [00:16:20] several years before the council's establishment, and [00:16:24] regarding correct information dissemination, he had stated it in various [00:16:27] documents. And the work continued [00:16:31] until 2011, when he, [00:16:35] with a very, very, very [00:16:38] precise vision, launched the Supreme Council and the National Center. [00:16:41] Perhaps some countries that have similar structures, for example, they have a Supreme Commission for Cyberspace [00:16:45] Management, which is similar to our council, or [00:16:49] for example, a subordinate organization that is similar to our National Center, [00:16:52] all of them were formed after us in countries that today [00:16:56] have something to say. If I want [00:16:58] to explain the logic of governance, in fact, [00:17:02] what I perceive, of all things, was the most beautiful [00:17:05] in the intellectual system of our martyred [00:17:09] Imam. [00:17:12] Whenever technology emerges, we have three groups [00:17:15] in every matter. One group, or two groups, out of [00:17:19] fear, we call it avoidance fear, meaning, "Oh, whatever comes, they say, 'This [00:17:23] is dangerous, this might be, I don't know, a Trojan horse, a thousand troubles [00:17:26] might befall us.' Oh, stay away from this, strongly prevent it from coming, [00:17:30] everyone should stop it." This is the first group [00:17:33] that has avoidance governance, [00:17:36] meaning they avoid every [00:17:39] issue. The second group has passive fear, [00:17:43] meaning whatever technology comes, they say, "Oh, [00:17:47] nothing can be done anymore, it's over." That means [00:17:50] you can see this in various fields. Well, [00:17:54] they completely discourage everyone and say, "Oh, it's over." [00:17:58] This is what we call passive fear. They become passive, [00:18:01] meaning you just have to console them and say, "By God, it's nothing, [00:18:05] we will solve it." The third logic [00:18:07] is courageous people. Courageous [00:18:11] people are neither afraid of technology nor have a problem with technology. [00:18:14] In fact, they say, "This technology is [00:18:17] an opportunity. We must be able to go and manage [00:18:20] and control this technology, take it into our own hands, [00:18:23] according to our own laws, according to our own principles and values, [00:18:27] and use it." Well, [00:18:31] wherever we entered a new domain with fear, [00:18:33] we suffered heavy damage. [00:18:38] Wherever we entered with courage, we were able [00:18:41] to achieve accomplishments, both in its military domain and in its other [00:18:44] domains. What was most appealing to me [00:18:48] about the governance of the martyred Imam, [00:18:51] is that he truly entered the scene courageously. [00:18:55] That means he neither avoided nor was passive. [00:18:59] Yes, high horizons. Now, in the book, some [00:19:02] parts say that he says, "Well, if you let go, [00:19:06] then it will learn." [00:19:12] Management and everything will go. You not only have to let go, you not only have to focus on our own geography, because cyberspace [00:19:15] has no time and no geography, [00:19:19] no place, it's everywhere. You have to make this a model, [00:19:23] do special things so that others can also come and use it. Why do we always [00:19:26] use other people's products? They should come, we should make [00:19:30] exquisite, limited, and quality products that are attractive so that other countries can [00:19:34] come. Why should we look at our own population of 80 million, 90 million? [00:19:37] We should look at the population of the region and say, [00:19:41] "West Asia, North Africa, Eastern Europe." We should be able to take [00:19:45] charge of this area. And his courage in dealing with this [00:19:48] phenomenon, which even now, even now, [00:19:51] many people still, when faced with it, either say, [00:19:55] "Stay away," or they say, "Let [00:19:58] it go." His courage in the matter [00:20:01] is truly appealing. That is, in various speeches, well, in this [00:20:05] book that I was reading myself, his courage is fully evident. [00:20:09] If we adopt this [00:20:11] as a principle in many areas and proceed with this approach, [00:20:15] many of our problems will be solved. Well, now you mentioned [00:20:18] technology. Now there's an issue called [00:20:21] satellite internet or Starlink. This, after all, [00:20:25] exists. Now, is our approach to [00:20:28] Starlink passive, avoidance, or courageous? [00:20:32] And I decided to ask here to raise the issue of governance [00:20:36] because can it affect our governance, [00:20:39] because many are worried that no matter how much you want to impose [00:20:43] governance in cyberspace, there's a Starlink that is not under [00:20:46] your control at all. It's a completely different space. [00:20:50] Look, in 2021, [00:20:54] if I'm not mistaken, 41, [00:20:57] the Ministry of Communications is responsible for frequency in the country. [00:21:00] The Ministry of Communications came and announced [00:21:04] the framework for granting licenses to satellite [00:21:07] internet providers. The commission approved [00:21:11] a transparent framework. It said, "We welcome this technology. [00:21:14] Anyone who wants to come to our country should provide services based [00:21:18] on this framework and this law to the people." [00:21:22] This is very good. It can greatly [00:21:25] reduce our costs for remote areas where we [00:21:29] want to use this method instead of pulling all these wires and cables, [00:21:33] and installing all these radios. In fact, in our [00:21:36] news, it was also reported that in the same year 2023, if I'm not mistaken, one of the [00:21:40] companies came and had a negotiation. In fact, an initial [00:21:44] discussion was held, but well, [00:21:47] part of it is due to US sanctions, another part is due to the pressures that these companies [00:21:51] face. No one came to an agreement under this [00:21:54] contract, but is this an unlikely [00:21:58] claim? Is it strange? No, if you look at all countries, [00:22:01] all countries follow this path. Now India came [00:22:04] and said, "This is my framework." "I will only allow you to provide [00:22:08] service in those remote areas that are difficult for me to reach." [00:22:11] They come and sign contracts. The framework [00:22:15] is clear, the penalty is clear, even [00:22:18] the policies applied to the network [00:22:20] are clear. According to the same policy, that country [00:22:23] announces it. Before this issue, many of these airline [00:22:26] companies had taken satellite internet, [00:22:29] Starlink. Starlink and others are also there. Others are also [00:22:33] coming into the field. Now, when you pass over different countries, it would sometimes [00:22:37] cut off and then reconnect. It was said that in this country that we are [00:22:40] passing through its airspace, this country does not have a contract with us, so we cannot provide [00:22:44] service here. When it passed from that country to the next country that had service, [00:22:48] it would connect there. So this. The point is that everyone must [00:22:52] accept our legal framework. Anyone who wants to provide service, [00:22:55] after all, the country has laws. Our legal framework is not a complicated framework; [00:22:59] it's the same framework as our operators, the same as Irancell [00:23:02] and Hamrah Aval mobile. It's something similar [00:23:06] to that, with a little bit of technical differences in terms of [00:23:09] its frequency and so on. Some parts are different because, after all, the type of its frequency [00:23:13] is different. But for a company to expect [00:23:17] to come and undermine the country's governance [00:23:20] and say, "I'm going to provide service aggressively," well, [00:23:23] this was condemned in international forums. The Islamic Republic pursued [00:23:27] it powerfully in the ITU, [00:23:31] which is an international organization under the United Nations for these communication [00:23:34] areas. The Ministry of Communications did a very organized job [00:23:38] in the past four or five years and took it there and complained, saying, "This is violating my law," [00:23:41] and it was condemned there. It was announced to the Norwegian [00:23:45] regulator and the American regulator that this is violating the license it has. [00:23:48] All its excuses were answered. But [00:23:52] the problem with [00:23:55] this tool is that if you look at [00:23:58] the situation in Ukraine, in [00:24:01] Ukraine, they ultimately gave this [00:24:04] to them as a military [00:24:08] tool. Dilamas says it's not a military [00:24:10] tool. He said, "Since it's not a military tool, I cut it off now." [00:24:14] That is, in this, [00:24:16] in this period. [00:24:36] The thing is, for example, a bird is not a pigeon flying around, [00:24:39] so it's clear. But this point you made [00:24:43] is important. That means those who do not have mercy [00:24:46] on their own forces, these are all sorts of people. [00:24:50] They have given up their country and left. [00:24:54] They have worked, and they get kicked in the face every day. The fate of cooperation with them [00:24:56] is clear. We, with authority, [00:25:00] manage technology with technology. Either they have to accept our laws [00:25:04] and our conditions, [00:25:06] under the organization of our country, [00:25:10] which the Ministry of Communications is responsible for, they should start [00:25:12] providing services, or we can stop them. [00:25:16] The enemies took it into their hands in the United Nations. [00:25:20] It showed you, for example, with the claim that many things can be done with this, that [00:25:24] this was merely a media and psychological [00:25:27] work, a show, that they wanted [00:25:31] to perform at the international level. No, look, the enemy was very hopeful [00:25:34] about this. The enemy had [00:25:37] three major events last year. [00:25:41] We had two wars and a coup in the discussion of [00:25:44] the coup in January. The enemy was hopeful [00:25:47] about this. It was disrupted, [00:25:50] and Western newspapers and Western news agencies [00:25:54] announced its news. We disrupted it, meaning, yes, [00:25:57] it didn't disrupt itself. But [00:26:01] they hoped for some upgrades in their system. Now, [00:26:05] we are not idle here. They upgraded, they did that, they did this so that they can once again [00:26:08] use it as a military tool, once again use it [00:26:12] as a networking tool. [00:26:16] That is, certainly, a war criminal who does not wish us well [00:26:19] at all, meaning if we even give him a toothbrush, he will poke someone's eye with it. [00:26:23] He doesn't use anything correctly. [00:26:26] He wants to operate with it against [00:26:29] the peace of our people. We will certainly stop him, no matter what. [00:26:33] He has upgraded, and he is hopeful about his upgrade. But [00:26:36] on his upgrade, we also have other upgrades in our system. [00:26:40] Now, when the country [00:26:43] decided to switch from oversight mode to control [00:26:46] mode, it will control it. And you once announced that [00:26:50] we have the technology to, [00:26:52] in fact, disable this technology [00:26:56] and even make it available to others. That's right, we have several [00:27:00] technologies. Those that we have actually [00:27:02] used and that work, [00:27:06] we are ready to cooperate with like-minded countries, [00:27:09] to interact. Technology exchange is natural between countries. [00:27:13] And this issue, not only us, but other countries have also worked on it. [00:27:17] Now the news is out. There are even messages and responses [00:27:20] about what they have done, and I think this issue, which they [00:27:24] were very hopeful about, that they could do something, is resolved, God willing. [00:27:28] God willing. Thank you very much. Regarding indigenous satellite [00:27:32] internet solutions, do we currently have a program in the country? Yes, look, [00:27:36] in the year 1400, [00:27:39] it wasn't even widespread yet. As soon as this technology was developed, [00:27:43] the Supreme Council of Cyberspace put it on its agenda. [00:27:47] This, in fact, was very timely [00:27:50] and also had development [00:27:53] programs, meaning it was mandated. [00:27:56] part of the country that either [00:28:00] independently or in cooperation with another [00:28:02] country, they are also working on satellite internet. A joint [00:28:06] program should be defined, and we should even make a joint investment or [00:28:09] independently. Now, the decision is with the government [00:28:13] body [00:28:15] so that we can provide these services. After all, it's a good [00:28:18] service, an attractive service. It can cover many areas where we [00:28:22] have little coverage, many areas where, for example, in the desert, children [00:28:26] who go off-roading and want to be able to provide them with services. This project has [00:28:29] also started. [00:28:34] Even now, the friends themselves will probably announce that they have [00:28:38] had good achievements in it. But [00:28:41] it takes time, meaning it's not like we can have something tomorrow morning, [00:28:44] but the path we are on is a good path, meaning we will soon [00:28:47] have our own domestic satellite internet. Now, how soon is this? The responsible [00:28:51] body should announce it, [00:28:54] but they announced it a while ago. Now, because I might not [00:28:57] be accurate, and it might have changed now, I won't tell [00:29:01] you. But they are doing a good [00:29:04] job. Recently, at your command, a [00:29:07] 32-point document to facilitate access to foreign [00:29:11] platforms was released from confidentiality and published, [00:29:15] which foresees three stages. And the question is, [00:29:17] which stages of this document have been implemented, and [00:29:21] for example, when will the access that was envisioned in this document [00:29:24] be created? When will it be available [00:29:28] in reality? [00:29:31] The logic of this document is this: [00:29:34] we have a situation in the country. After all, we constantly monitor [00:29:37] the country's situation, its strengths, weaknesses, [00:29:40] areas where policies have been successful or not successful. [00:29:44] This is completely [00:29:48] clearly and transparently stated in our body, because [00:29:51] after all, all organizations are present. We have 27 members in the Supreme Council of Cyberspace. [00:29:55] These are seriously challenged, discussed, and worked on. [00:29:59] And every now and then, we start, [00:30:02] we try to make changes in policies where [00:30:06] success has not reached the desired level, where there is a weakness, and to strengthen [00:30:10] the areas where there is a strength. The logic of the 32-point document [00:30:13] was this: in four stages, in each [00:30:16] stage, we will strengthen a part [00:30:20] of the issues within the country [00:30:23] so that governance is strengthened, [00:30:26] and within acceptable governance frameworks, we will actually [00:30:30] make access more open. Well, this logic [00:30:34] tries to preserve and strengthen [00:30:37] the country's overall governance framework. That is, we believe [00:30:41] that if this document is fully implemented, [00:30:44] not only will access be created, but also an improvement in governance will occur. Well, [00:30:48] this is an important event that we can [00:30:51] move forward with this entire path in harmony. It is defined in four [00:30:54] blocks, four stages are defined. Well, one of the stages [00:30:58] is that people