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[00:00:01] Uprooting olive trees
[00:00:01] suffering, in starvation, under the pretext that they are
[00:00:04] military zones and security zones.
[00:00:06] Yes, yes, Mr. Salah, in This was not as it was in
[00:00:09] previous years. Only this year,
[00:00:13] 55 decisions were implemented in
[00:00:16] the West Bank areas. We are talking about every decision, for example, in
[00:00:20] attacking a village like the town of Al-Mughayyir, in less than
[00:00:25] in the Palestinian West Bank 72 hours, then a military decision was taken to uproot
[00:00:27] Please give us more olive trees and all plants.
[00:00:30] The land for security and military considerations. In 72
[00:00:33] hours, 10,572
[00:00:37] olive trees were uprooted in this village, which owned
[00:00:41] 43 dunams since 1967 until
[00:00:44] before Smotrich's government. Today, less than 1
[00:00:48] dunam will remain for the village. Another village
[00:00:51] like Umm Safa village in the northwest of Ramallah.
[00:00:55] This village is surrounded by settlements
[00:00:58] and outposts. And the road linking the settlements
[00:01:01] is completely closed from the east and west by military
[00:01:05] gates. The residents of this village, whose population
[00:01:09] and people is 700 people,
[00:01:11] owned 4,700 dunams. Today, what
[00:01:15] remains for these families is only 100 dunams,
[00:01:19] kill the dream of the Palestinian people for meaning that the smallest
[00:01:20] is directly in feudal estate in the past decades for any
[00:01:23] Palestinian owns more than that, as you mentioned in the report in Deir Abu
[00:01:27] Mash'al. Therefore, when we organized this campaign and started
[00:01:31] the first confrontation to break the occupation's
[00:01:35] consuls flocked to decision not to allow farmers to reach their lands in Deir
[00:01:38] Bazi' village, we were able to reach
[00:01:41] vast lands, more than 4,000
[00:01:44] dunams, and there were
[00:01:46] of this coalition, violent confrontations with
[00:01:48] did not stop at the settlers and the army. As mentioned in your report, on the following day, last Saturday,
[00:01:51] we organized a wide campaign
[00:01:55] through a large number in which dozens of farmers, peasants, landowners
[00:01:58] and activists participated, as well as
[00:02:02] international solidarity activists. We, in the Wall Resistance Committee,
[00:02:05] considered that we must break the settlers' decision
[00:02:08] to prevent farmers from reaching their lands.
[00:02:12] And when we talk about an area only in the
[00:02:15] southern
[00:02:18] part, approximately 3,000 dunams, yes,
[00:02:21] we will continue, God willing, through the following
[00:02:24] questions to shed more light on
[00:02:28] tightening the noose on all these attacks. And the real
[00:02:31] goal Mr. Hamadeh, two
[00:02:34] days ago, you wrote under
[00:02:36] Therefore, they worked in the title "The Uprising of the Palestinian Olive" and you said
[00:02:41] the cities. Exactly. that you described the countryside and are working in it precisely, a large part of it is what
[00:02:45] Mr. Salah expressed,
[00:02:47] and Mr. Hamadeh Faraneh. This and you said that this is not just mere
[00:02:50] attempts and
[00:02:54] not leave despite if there is harm in it, this is a planned and prepared
[00:02:58] fascist movements in thing. is that
[00:03:02] there is a methodology working within a prepared program
[00:03:05] whose goal
[00:03:07] is to oppress
[00:03:10] people in order
[00:03:13] to displace them, in order to weaken the relationship
[00:03:17] with the land,
[00:03:19] call it what you want. What is the prepared
[00:03:23] program that you wanted to refer to? Thank you.
[00:03:27] the details. At First, honestly, all respect to Mr. Salah. What
[00:03:30] he represents and through him to all the Palestinian people
[00:03:33] in all places of their presence on Palestinian land, whether
[00:03:37] in the 1948 areas or the
[00:03:39] and clarity. At 1967 areas. Honestly, I want to thank you
[00:03:42] for trying to cover this topic that he mentioned and
[00:03:50] compared to of the Palestinian people were in that you mentioned. Let us all stand on a clear and practical political ground, yes. This
[00:03:54] ruling team in the Israeli
[00:03:57] news. At colonial entity is committed West Bank. In to two issues. First,
[00:04:00] considering the title of the program
[00:04:03] that unified Jerusalem is the capital of the Israeli
[00:04:06] colonial entity, there is a consensus
[00:04:10] among all parties, forces, and apparatuses of
[00:04:13] the Israeli colonizer that
[00:04:16] and their role in unified Jerusalem is the capital of the Israeli colonizer. Second, that the Palestinian
[00:04:19] West Bank is not Jordanian, not
[00:04:22] Palestinian, not Arab, not occupied, but rather it is Judea
[00:04:26] and Samaria, meaning a part of the map of the Israeli colonial entity, yes, exactly.
[00:04:30] And for that reason, now the plan has been approved, as Mr.
[00:04:34] first occupation areas in 1948 are Salah mentioned, by name. The Smotrich plan
[00:04:37] has been approved, the plan
[00:04:40] for decisive action, which is based on three
[00:04:44] points, three stages. The first
[00:04:46] stage is to end the liquidation,
[00:04:49] purification, and cleansing
[00:04:53] of Palestinians. Yes, no housing, no
[00:04:56] agriculture, no investment, etc., in
[00:05:01] or or construction in the Palestinian countryside, which is 62%
[00:05:04] of the area of
[00:05:06] is happening now in the Palestinian West Bank, yes. And they succeeded and did
[00:05:11] similarity in
[00:05:11] he stated that these pastoral outposts a lot for ending the popular
[00:05:13] presence of nomadic Bedouins or farmers,
[00:05:17] their shacks, their farms, etc. So they achieved
[00:05:21] relatively the first goal, which is
[00:05:24] ending the Palestinian presence in the Palestinian countryside,
[00:05:28] and they moved to the second stage, which is
[00:05:33] Palestinian villages. And this is what
[00:05:35] explains that the attack now on Palestinian villages
[00:05:39] started from Tel and all Palestinian villages, without
[00:05:43] displacing Palestinian villages to the cities, yes.
[00:05:46] And thus there will be Palestinian
[00:05:49] gatherings only confined to cities,
[00:05:52] because they failed strategically. The Israeli expansionist colonial
[00:05:56] project failed strategically in expelling
[00:06:00] all the Palestinian people, yes. The Palestinian-Israeli conflict is based on
[00:06:03] two terms, no third: land and people.
[00:06:07] They managed to occupy the entire map of Palestine, but they failed
[00:06:11] strategically in expelling all the Palestinian people.
[00:06:15] And for that reason, Smotrich's plan
[00:06:17] came in response to the failure of the Israeli
[00:06:21] expansionist colonial project to expel all the Palestinian people.
[00:06:24] From here, they started with the countryside, yes, and they finished almost and
[00:06:28] moved to the villages. Now the conflict
[00:06:33] the villages. The failure in their attack on the villages is due to
[00:06:36] two factors: The first factor is that the people
[00:06:39] of the villages persevered, and second, that the
[00:06:42] heads of missions, ambassadors, and European
[00:06:47] the villages and witnessed many sites
[00:06:51] and clashes, and so on. This created a direct embarrassment
[00:06:54] and direct clash with the Israeli colonial entity, in addition
[00:06:58] to the crimes that occurred in the Gaza
[00:07:01] Strip. Therefore, today
[00:07:04] the conflict over Palestinian
[00:07:07] olives, as a source of livelihood,
[00:07:11] as a source of life, as
[00:07:14] a realization of
[00:07:17] the benefit
[00:07:19] and services of Palestinian farmers.
[00:07:22] Therefore, today, when we examine the Palestinian
[00:07:25] Authority, there is confiscation of its funds,
[00:07:29] five billion and 200 million dollars of Palestinian
[00:07:32] Authority funds confiscated by the Ministry of Finance, by Smotrich's
[00:07:35] ministry. Consequently, the second issue is
[00:07:40] livelihood, and the source and life
[00:07:44] for Palestinians, to make the Palestinian land a repellent for its people.
[00:07:50] the villages, reaching
[00:07:54] It is striking, sir, that you pointed out that the countryside
[00:07:57] then the villages, the countryside, meaning that there are no
[00:08:00] inhabitants, and this was known, meaning
[00:08:03] the pastoral colonialism.
[00:08:06] Well, perhaps if I address this point
[00:08:10] to Mr. Salah. Regarding
[00:08:13] the villages and the olive groves, as they are called in
[00:08:16] Palestine,
[00:08:20] which are the villages that
[00:08:22] are subjected more to these
[00:08:26] attacks, assuming that the plan
[00:08:30] will lead us to the displacement of the
[00:08:33] villagers, as Mr. Hamadeh also indicated,
[00:08:36] towards the cities, perhaps this gives
[00:08:40] an indication, and you, in the field, see this picture
[00:08:43] clearly.
[00:08:49] First, we must remind everyone
[00:08:52] and speak with numbers. From 1967
[00:08:55] until 1989, two-thirds
[00:09:00] rural areas. After 1989 until today,
[00:09:03] more than two-thirds of the Palestinian people are in the main
[00:09:07] cities, which are called Area A
[00:09:10] in numbers. On the other hand, from
[00:09:13] 1967 until 2022, the average
[00:09:16] construction was seven settlements per
[00:09:19] full year, and the structural plans
[00:09:22] of the settlements occupied approximately 8% of the
[00:09:26] Palestinian West Bank lands from 1967 until
[00:09:29] 2022, in addition to approximately
[00:09:32] 11% behind the wall after the construction of the apartheid
[00:09:35] wall. Today, under Smotrich's
[00:09:38] government, and Ben-Gvir and Netanyahu, because it is a government that implements
[00:09:42] a plan announced in 2018, for example,
[00:09:45] Smotrich's plan, which is known as the
[00:09:48] decisive action plan and control over empty
[00:09:51] lands without inhabitants and strengthening
[00:09:54] operations, meaning a policy that establishes
[00:09:58] a process of mass displacement of Palestinian
[00:10:01] villages and towns. What happened during the four
[00:10:04] years is the recognition of 104 settlements in
[00:10:07] the Palestinian West Bank in less than four years,
[00:10:11] and approximately 352
[00:10:14] pastoral settlement outposts were built in the Palestinian West Bank. According
[00:10:18] to the Minister of Agriculture in the occupation government,
[00:10:23] in the four years were able to control
[00:10:27] more than 25% of the Palestinian West Bank lands, approximately
[00:10:31] three times what was occupied and controlled since
[00:10:34] 1967 until 2022. And if there
[00:10:37] is talk about seven settlements on average annually,
[00:10:41] it has quadrupled in the last four
[00:10:44] years, considering that only 104 settlements
[00:10:50] have been recognized, in addition to the pastoral outposts.
[00:10:53] This, perhaps,
[00:10:57] is not just within the framework of a plan,
[00:10:59] I mean, the numbers. This can remind us that the dream
[00:11:03] of the Zionist movement began with the start of the occupation in 1948, and
[00:11:07] then in 1967. The world remained silent
[00:11:10] about imposing what is called Israeli sovereignty over
[00:11:14] an area larger than what was declared at the United
[00:11:17] Nations, from 45% of historical Palestine to
[00:11:20] 78% of historical Palestine, and the international
[00:11:24] community did nothing. In 1967,
[00:11:27] a UN resolution for a temporary military
[00:11:30] occupation was extracted. But what happened since the declaration in
[00:11:34] 1967 was the first project, the Allon Plan, which was announced
[00:11:38] officially at the beginning of 1968. The Allon
[00:11:41] Plan aimed to
[00:11:44] a state, and the Allon Plan
[00:11:48] aimed to turn the occupied lands after 1967 into seven
[00:11:51] cantons, isolating the Gaza Strip as a separate canton from the West
[00:11:55] Bank. Annexing Jerusalem and controlling it and considering it part of what is called Israeli
[00:11:59] sovereignty. Annexing or isolating the Jordan Valley, which constitutes
[00:12:03] 29% of the West Bank lands from the rest of the West
[00:12:06] Bank cities and transforming the remainder into cantons. Despite
[00:12:10] that, this project
[00:12:13] declaration, but rather began with practical steps. The first displacement
[00:12:16] operation was in 1967 for the Maghariba
[00:12:19] Quarter in Jerusalem, and the international community did not
[00:12:22] act, and there was no position even from Arab countries.
[00:12:28] And the first Judaization operation was when Al-Aqsa Mosque in
[00:12:31] Jerusalem was burned. Therefore, since 1967 until
[00:12:35] today, there is a department in the army
[00:12:38] planning to develop the Allon Plan from seven
[00:12:41] cantons to transforming the West Bank into 176 separated
[00:12:45] and isolated cantons. Okay, I will continue with
[00:12:48] you in a moment, but we have a short
[00:12:52] break, and we will continue the discussion with you, God willing,
[00:13:12] program
[00:16:02] Welcome back, dear viewers. I continue
[00:16:05] my conversation with my guests. The program guest, Mr.
[00:16:09] Salah Al-Khawaja, Assistant Director of the Wall and Settlement Resistance
[00:16:13] Commission, and Mr. Hamadeh Faraneh,
[00:16:16] political analyst and writer.
[00:16:19] We stopped at an important
[00:16:22] point, which Mr. Salah referred
[00:16:25] to, and you also referred to
[00:16:28] it. When we talk
[00:16:31] about a form of genocide,
[00:16:34] and you even mentioned in the article that
[00:16:38] what is required is to
[00:16:42] eliminate trees and stones
[00:16:46] in the West Bank. There was
[00:16:49] a described form of genocide, as we saw in
[00:16:52] Gaza. Some say that this is also a form
[00:16:56] of genocide. Please shed light on this
[00:16:59] equation. Yes,
[00:17:03] in fact, as I said, politically,
[00:17:06] it is not a hostile
[00:17:09] description as a Jordanian, as an Arab, as a Muslim,
[00:17:12] as a human being biased towards the Palestinian people's
[00:17:16] cause, but rather through a professional reading, yes,
[00:17:20] of this government,
[00:17:23] of this behavior in dealing with the Palestinian
[00:17:26] people, because, as I said, they failed
[00:17:29] strategically in expelling all the Palestinian people. Four
[00:17:32] months ago, the statistics showed that the number
[00:17:35] of Palestinian people across the entire map of Palestine was 7.4
[00:17:39] million. Therefore, the fundamental, provocative question is: Can
[00:17:42] a Jewish state be established across the entire map of Palestine with
[00:17:45] more than 7 million Palestinian Arabs
[00:17:48] on it? Therefore, what they did in the Gaza
[00:17:51] Strip was not only targeting the Palestinian
[00:17:54] resistance. They targeted people, yes.
[00:17:57] Therefore, if the October 7
[00:17:59] operation was unprecedented and killed
[00:18:03] 1,200 Israelis and captured 251
[00:18:06] Israelis, but the Israeli response
[00:18:10] was unprecedented, killing tens
[00:18:13] of thousands and injuring many
[00:18:16] times that number, and destroying the Gaza Strip to make it truly
[00:18:19] uninhabitable. However,
[00:18:23] there are two factors that we must remember in the Gaza
[00:18:27] Strip. The first factor is that the Palestinian people in the Gaza Strip did
[00:18:32] all the circumstances they lived in. And also,
[00:18:36] honestly, all respect to the Egyptian position, which also did not
[00:18:39] allow that. But the second factor is that those who registered after
[00:18:43] October 10, 2025,
[00:18:46] for a ceasefire, those who registered with Egyptian security
[00:18:49] to return to the Gaza Strip were 82,000, yes.
[00:18:53] Yes, to the extent that the Israeli occupier, the occupation
[00:18:56] authorities, used to allow 100, 15,000 to
[00:18:59] 100, 150 Palestinian
[00:19:02] citizens every day. So the Israelis would ask, "Where
[00:19:05] are you going? Destruction, devastation, etc." And they would say, "I'm coming
[00:19:08] back to my country," yes. So those who registered
[00:19:11] were 80,000, despite them seeing it like
[00:19:14] me and you, and perhaps Brother Salah knows
[00:19:16] more than me. Yet,
[00:19:19] 82,000 registered. Therefore, this steadfastness in
[00:19:23] the Gaza Strip is truly amazing,
[00:19:28] the crimes that have been committed. Now,
[00:19:31] they have moved to the Palestinian the Palestinian West Bank, what
[00:19:35] the settlers and the occupation army are doing,
[00:19:39] and there is similarity in behavior
[00:19:42] and position between the occupation army and its security
[00:19:46] apparatuses and the settlers. Now, the settlers
[00:19:49] are carrying out a process of purification,
[00:19:52] a process of killing, a process of destruction, etc.
[00:19:56] As if to say that they are the
[00:19:59] Zionist-Israeli-Jewish resistance
[00:20:03] in confrontation with the Palestinian
[00:20:05] foreigners on their land, yes. Therefore, what they are doing in the West Bank
[00:20:09] targets people and destroys life
[00:20:13] to make the Palestinian West Bank, as happened in the Gaza
[00:20:16] Strip, uninhabitable.
[00:20:19] Therefore, they are tightening the noose
[00:20:22] and life on Palestinians, as I said. Now, regarding
[00:20:26] olives, it is a matter of income, a matter of providing needs,
[00:20:30] and as I also said, even for the Palestinian Authority, we record
[00:20:33] observations, we agree with them, we disagree with them, but its
[00:20:37] money is confiscated, which reached 5 billion.
[00:20:40] Therefore, what
[00:20:44] the occupied Palestinian territories since 1967, there is
[00:20:48] confrontation, in
[00:20:51] in killing, as happened in the Gaza Strip.
[00:20:56] this context, you mentioned that you are carrying
[00:21:00] out campaigns to help people
[00:21:04] reach their lands, and you undoubtedly
[00:21:07] face confrontations with the Israeli
[00:21:11] army and also with
[00:21:14] settlers.
[00:21:17] details about what you are doing
[00:21:21] as part of, first, the authority that you
[00:21:24] are its assistant director,
[00:21:27] and also the citizens and other
[00:21:30] popular bodies in supporting
[00:21:33] farmers to
[00:21:35] confront these attacks and this organized
[00:21:39] campaign.
[00:21:41] We consider that we have a major responsibility to break
[00:21:45] the barrier of fear and to break the
[00:21:47] settlement decision in the process of what is called imposing
[00:21:51] C. Therefore, we organized the campaign with the participation of all
[00:21:54] segments of Palestinian society, and every year
[00:21:57] we consider this part of our national responsibility. It is not
[00:22:01] required of us to tell the farmer: Go, you and your Lord, and fight.
[00:22:05] We must be a support and a helper and a supporter
[00:22:08] for farmers and peasants, and we must participate.
[00:22:12] This was the history of Palestine in terms of assistance and solidarity
[00:22:14] and strengthening the Palestinian role in confronting
[00:22:18] the occupation. We choose the most dangerous
[00:22:21] sites and the most exposed
[00:22:24] to violations, attacks, and crimes of the occupation. Therefore,
[00:22:28] we started in the village of Deir Bazi' and Deir Abu Mash'al, and on
[00:22:32] Thursday, it will be in the area northwest of Jerusalem in the village of Beit Anan.
[00:22:35] We have a comprehensive program that will last for more than
[00:22:39] 40 days with the participation of dozens of solidarity activists. We
[00:22:42] mobilized this year
[00:22:45] of friends and civil society organizations with hundreds
[00:22:49] of solidarity activists. Some organizations registered
[00:22:53] more than 2,500 solidarity activists to participate
[00:22:56] in Palestine, but Israel prevented a large number, and only
[00:22:59] a few, I mean,
[00:23:02] hundreds will be able to reach. Note that most
[00:23:06] activists were prevented from entering the occupied
[00:23:08] territories to participate in this campaign.
[00:23:12] We consider that this campaign is part of a program that integrates
[00:23:16] some issues and programs and issues
[00:23:20] to provide for the needs of farmers to pick olives
[00:23:23] as quickly as possible, whether through the use of electric
[00:23:27] machines and others. This is considered part
[00:23:31] of our attempts to break the occupation's decision
[00:23:34] and the leadership of the occupation government, and they are
[00:23:37] a settlers' government. When we talk about Smotrich,
[00:23:41] Ben-Gvir, and Netanyahu, and they
[00:23:43] are founding leaders of racist,
[00:23:48] the West Bank territories, and Ben-Gvir always
[00:23:51] talks and boasts that before his government
[00:23:54] and the coalition government, there were
[00:23:57] 47 early warning networks in the Palestinian
[00:24:00] West Bank. Today, there are 1,052
[00:24:03] early warning networks from the settlers. Each network has
[00:24:07] dozens of settlers, and they receive direct support from the government
[00:24:11] and the regional councils of the settlements. Their main goal is the process
[00:24:14] of settlement, as mentioned by Brother Hamadeh, regarding
[00:24:18] the control operations in Area C. Since October 7 until
[00:24:21] today, more than 108 Bedouin
[00:24:25] communities in the West Bank areas have been partially
[00:24:28] and fully displaced, and today there is targeting of villages and towns adjacent
[00:24:32] to settlements and colonies. Okay, yes, Professor
[00:24:36] Hamadeh, I have a question
[00:24:39] related to what Professor Salah spoke about
[00:24:41] concerning solidarity activists. I want to ask you about
[00:24:45] the vitality of Palestinian
[00:24:48] Arabs within
[00:24:50] Israel.
[00:24:53] Can these people also constitute
[00:24:56] supporters for such campaigns? Can they,
[00:24:59] for example, and perhaps I
[00:25:03] also ask you about the members of parliament
[00:25:06] the elections, meaning if they can
[00:25:09] make a difference, but the important thing is this: to what extent
[00:25:13] do you think they are capable of doing something? Something
[00:25:17] for sure. Firstly, 20%
[00:25:21] of the residents of the
[00:25:24] Palestinians, yes. And
[00:25:28] 17% of Israeli voters are Palestinians, yes.
[00:25:32] Therefore, these people
[00:25:35] can play a role in this field.
[00:25:39] And we must remember two roles. In
[00:25:42] 1992-1996, the Democratic Front
[00:25:45] for Peace and Equality allied with Yitzhak
[00:25:48] Rabin.
[00:25:51] To approve, and they formed a shield for him to prevent
[00:25:55] the fall of the government, yes. And also in
[00:25:57] the government