KAN11 — - 20260806 030400 UTC 1592 transcript segments Google Cloud Speech-to-Text API (Chirp) + Gemini 2.5 Flash Non-Thinking Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:00:10] All they did was talk about Khamenei's [00:00:13] enemies on Saturday night on Kan 11 [00:00:16] and on Kanbox with Ran Benyamini. [00:00:43] Hello everyone, good morning, thank you for being with us here, Kan News on Reshet Bet [00:00:46] and Kan 11, all the news of the morning, from now until eight, [00:00:50] Thursday, 23rd of Av 5786, August 6th, [00:00:54] 2026, and we are opening, [00:00:57] unfortunately, with difficult news, painful news that the IDF Spokesperson is allowing [00:01:00] to publish in the last few minutes. Two soldiers [00:01:03] fell yesterday in southern Lebanon. Hezbollah violated the [00:01:06] ceasefire and that is what led to the completion and attacks by the IDF in Lebanon. [00:01:10] We are with you, Carmela Menashe, our reporter, hello Carmela. [00:01:14] Hello Ram, Major (res.) Harel Ben Shatok, [00:01:18] 34, from Nokdim, company commander in Battalion [00:01:21] 2855, the Spearhead Formation, [00:01:25] 55, fell in battle in southern Lebanon. Staff Sergeant (res.) [00:01:28] Tamir Vaknin, 33, [00:01:32] from Eilat, a soldier in Battalion [00:01:34] 2855, Spearhead, fell [00:01:38] in the same battle in southern Lebanon. Four [00:01:41] IDF reserve soldiers were seriously wounded. [00:01:44] The soldiers were evacuated to receive medical treatment, and their families [00:01:47] were notified. Yesterday, near 12 o'clock, an IDF [00:01:51] force from the 55th [00:01:54] Divisional Combat Team operated in the Majdal Zun [00:01:57] area in southern Lebanon, to [00:02:00] secure the area and destroy terror infrastructure. During [00:02:03] the operation, the force entered a site [00:02:07] in the area. As the force entered the site, [00:02:10] an explosion occurred. As a result of the explosion, [00:02:14] Major (res.) Harel Biranstock and Staff Sergeant [00:02:17] Tamir Vaknin fell, and [00:02:20] four IDF reserve soldiers were seriously [00:02:23] wounded. The soldiers, as mentioned, were evacuated to receive [00:02:27] medical treatment. After the incident, the air [00:02:30] and the fire complex of the Northern Command and the fire brigade [00:02:34] of Division 91 attacked targets [00:02:37] in the area. The IDF does not know at this stage when [00:02:40] the explosive device was planted in the building that the soldiers [00:02:44] entered, and whether it was a new device that was planted there [00:02:48] recently. In any case, this is within [00:02:51] the yellow line, where the IDF is located, and where [00:02:54] these houses were [00:02:57] during the last period. We [00:03:01] are, as mentioned, in a ceasefire. Thank you [00:03:03] Carmela. Major (res.) Harel [00:03:06] Biranstock and Staff Sergeant (res.) Tamir [00:03:09] Vaknin, may their memory be blessed. [00:03:12] We will, of course, return and elaborate further. [00:03:16] Now to Iran, agreement and escalation in Washington. They still hope for a deal [00:03:19] to open the Strait of Hormuz to traffic this week. The proposals [00:03:23] that came up in talks between Iran and Oman are now awaiting approval from [00:03:26] Tehran, and meanwhile, in the United States, the shortage [00:03:30] of missiles is increasing. If there is a need to return to fighting, our [00:03:34] Washington correspondent Eitan Gutman reports. The United States believed that at this stage [00:03:38] it would be possible to announce the full opening of the Strait of Hormuz, but [00:03:41] the talks with Iran mediated by Oman are proving to be more [00:03:45] complicated than promised. According to reports, the [00:03:49] parties are now awaiting the approval of Iran's Supreme Leader for the agreements [00:03:52] reached, and only then will the deal be finalized. [00:03:56] President Trump, who constantly reminds everyone of the option to return to fighting, [00:04:00] seems willing to give the diplomatic process more time for now. [00:04:13] I prefer to make a deal because I don't want to kill people. We are currently [00:04:17] talking to the Iranians and we'll see what happens. They respect us [00:04:20] now, Trump said in a speech he gave last night in Las Vegas. The agreement [00:04:24] currently being discussed is supposed to divide the routes in the Strait of Hormuz [00:04:27] and recognize, even if only temporarily, some [00:04:31] Iranian sovereignty over the strait. In recent days, relative calm [00:04:34] has been maintained, but in the last few hours a ship passing through the area [00:04:38] reported hearing explosion sounds. No damage or [00:04:41] casualties have been reported. The American administration hopes that the deal will be finalized by [00:04:44] the end of the week, and that immediately after that it will be possible to resume [00:04:48] talks on the nuclear issue mediated by [00:04:51] Pakistan. And despite the fact that the military option is still on the table [00:04:54] for the United States, the Americans have not yet solved [00:04:58] their problem of missile shortages. Long-range and interceptor missiles. [00:05:02] The Washington Post reports that last Friday, on the sidelines of a cabinet [00:05:05] meeting, the President rebuked Secretary of War Pete [00:05:08] Hags, who, he claimed, misled him regarding armaments. [00:05:12] He promised there was no longer a shortage. The administration does not admit [00:05:15] that the supply has dwindled, but according to reports in the United States, [00:05:19] the Americans lack both interceptor missiles for Patriot [00:05:22] and THAAD systems, and long-range guided ballistic missiles. [00:05:26] These two components are supposed to be used by the US military if a return [00:05:30] to intense fighting is decided upon. Natan Gutman, [00:05:33] Washington. The promises of governance are once again shattering [00:05:37] on the ground of reality in the Negev. After our correspondent Assaf Pozayeff reported here [00:05:40] that masked gunmen with M16 rifles prevented an Israel Electric Corporation [00:05:43] team from repairing a transformer that was damaged by gunfire near two [00:05:47] large police stations, it now turns out that the cumulative [00:05:51] damage from shooting at electrical transformers amounts to millions [00:05:54] of shekels. Where is the police? Where is the governance? Our correspondent Assaf [00:05:58] Pozay is still following up. The main promise of the previous [00:06:01] election campaign was governance and security, and this [00:06:04] is governance in the style of the Negev. This is just one story. Near two large [00:06:08] police stations, masked gunmen with M16 [00:06:11] IDF rifles block a street in Tel [00:06:14] Sheva and threaten Israel Electric Corporation workers [00:06:18] not to repair a transformer they shot at. One of the workers said: I've already [00:06:21] experienced shooting incidents in the Bedouin sector, but I've never been a few meters [00:06:25] away from masked armed men with a finger on the trigger. After [00:06:29] a minute or two, a Skoda car approached us and the driver told [00:06:32] us not to fix it there. The message was clear. [00:06:36] Said Meital Harel, maintenance and operations manager at Israel Electric Corporation's South [00:06:40] division. When the team arrived around the entrance to Tel [00:06:43] Sheva, to actually go through the gate to fix [00:06:46] the malfunction, they saw masked men with [00:06:50] M16 weapons pointed at them. At that moment, [00:06:54] when they arrived with the security guards of the Israel Electric Corporation, they simply made a U-turn [00:06:58] and left the settlement quickly. Why did they shoot at the [00:07:01] transformer in the first place? To damage the electricity of the rival [00:07:04] family? A known practice among some of the feuding families [00:07:08] in the Bedouin sector. Sometimes it also happens as a result of this. [00:07:12] One doesn't have electricity, so he wants his neighbor [00:07:15] not to have electricity either. And so, Khalil Al Baz, a resident of Tel [00:07:19] Sheva, three days, cancer patients, sick [00:07:22] elderly people in the August heat, we have no electricity, and most [00:07:26] importantly, governance. Where [00:07:29] is the governance they talk about? The Israel Electric [00:07:32] Corporation recently calculated all the damages that the shooting at transformers [00:07:35] in the sector causes to taxpayers, five million [00:07:39] shekels every year. In the last year alone, they shot at. [00:07:51] four times the legal electricity consumption. As I said, this [00:07:55] has been happening for years. This is the governance of [00:07:57] the Negev. The police response was received: an online complaint hours [00:08:01] after the incident, by a person who was not present at the scene. The incident is under [00:08:05] investigation at the Ayarot station. [00:08:08] 6:12 exactly this morning on Reshet Bet. Now to the newspapers. [00:08:14] Kan News on Reshet Bet, newspaper headlines. [00:08:17] Let's start [00:08:20] with Maariv. Casualties in IDF activity in southern Lebanon. [00:08:24] This is the main headline. At the time the newspapers went to print, it was not [00:08:27] yet allowed to publish the names of the casualties, but as mentioned, a few [00:08:31] minutes ago, the IDF spokesperson allowed to publish that two soldiers fell [00:08:35] in southern Lebanon yesterday: Major (res.) Harel Biranstock [00:08:38] and Staff Sergeant (res.) Tamir Vaknin. May [00:08:42] their memory be blessed. In Maariv it was written about the renewed escalation in southern [00:08:46] Lebanon. The IDF announced that Hezbollah had blatantly violated the ceasefire, and [00:08:50] it began a targeted attack. "We will act with force [00:08:53] against the terrorist organization," says the IDF. Meanwhile, Beirut [00:08:57] offers to expand the pilot [00:09:00] zones for Benny and Elihai. Iran announced: We have reached agreements with [00:09:03] Oman on the Hormuz outline. The detention [00:09:06] of Ahmed Al Rajoub, suspected of murdering attorney Arbel [00:09:10] Feldman, may his memory be a blessing, in his office, was extended. [00:09:13] Lawyers held a two-minute silence in the courthouse plaza [00:09:16] in protest of the violence. The court [00:09:20] blocked the transfer of hundreds of millions to Haredim and to Strock's [00:09:23] office. Netanyahu says about the petition to fire Minister Ben-Gvir, "I will [00:09:27] not do it, it is not legal." So in the newspaper [00:09:30] Maariv. In Yedioth Ahronoth, escalation in Lebanon is the main [00:09:32] headline. In response to a severe violation of the ceasefire by [00:09:36] Hezbollah, the army launched a series of attacks in the Tyre area and instructed [00:09:40] residents to evacuate immediately. Due to the incidents, [00:09:43] the talks between Israel and Lebanon in Rome were shortened. [00:09:46] Reports: agreement on the Strait of Hormuz to be signed by tomorrow. [00:09:50] This is also on the front page. The banner headline in Yedioth Ahronoth: IDF demanded [00:09:53] to attack powerfully in Lebanon, [00:09:57] the political echelon blocked it. [00:10:00] So in Yedioth. Let's move to Haaretz. IDF attacked in southern Lebanon [00:10:04] claiming Hezbollah violated the ceasefire [00:10:07] agreement. Talks between Israel and Lebanon [00:10:10] continued in Rome. [00:10:15] Zvi Bar'el writes, the referral from the front page [00:10:17] to page four, where the full column is. More headlines on the front page [00:10:21] of Haaretz, destruction, roadblocks and arrests. [00:10:25] Residents of Qalandiya fear that the operation will also [00:10:28] lead to their expulsion. [00:10:31] The High Court of Justice froze the transfer of hundreds of millions to Haredim and settlers [00:10:34] due to concern of a flaw in the process. The Shadow, meaning [00:10:37] the singer Yoav Eliassi, and three other police officers were interrogated on suspicion of breach of trust [00:10:41] following the Haaretz investigation. The picture on the front page [00:10:45] of Israel Hayom is a blurred picture of a young [00:10:48] woman, and the quote is as follows: "I heard [00:10:51] the soldiers' screams, their last moments. [00:10:55] In my mind, I see dead children in Gaza, [00:10:58] crying mothers, it's on me." Her service [00:11:01] in the war left the speaker shattered. The army abandoned [00:11:05] her time after time. This is an article by Tom Levinson with a reference [00:11:09] to page three, so maybe we'll read a little more. As mentioned, [00:11:13] the headline is, "I see dead children, it's on me." She heard the [00:11:16] screams on the radio, she [00:11:19] heard, she heard the screams and [00:11:23] the shooting on the radio, she saw the rockets explode, and today she knows about [00:11:26] the children who died in Gaza in attacks she participated in, even after [00:11:30] she was diagnosed with PTSD and started receiving [00:11:33] psychiatric treatment, the recognition by the Ministry of Defense for her [00:11:37] was delayed and was only given after a request from [00:11:40] Haaretz. The full story is on page three [00:11:43] of the newspaper. Let's move to Israel Hayom. The main [00:11:46] headline: "Respond with extensive attacks in Lebanon." [00:11:50] This is an unclear quote from whom, perhaps [00:11:53] a military source. Because the political echelon, it is written, did [00:11:57] not rush to approve the IDF's recommendation to give a chance to contacts with [00:12:00] Lebanon. First publication in Israel Hayom: Israel and Gulf states [00:12:04] in talks to establish an energy pipeline [00:12:08] that will bypass the Strait of Hormuz [00:12:11] and the Bab el Mandeb Strait. So [00:12:13] in Israel Hayom. Let's move to the Haredi newspapers. The [00:12:16] HaMevaser newspaper. Here, if you look for [00:12:20] the escalation in southern Lebanon, it's only at the bottom of the page, because there's [00:12:24] a much, much larger headline, and probably much more important [00:12:27] in the eyes of the editors of HaMevaser newspaper. "The [00:12:31] continued persecution of the Torah world: the High Court froze hundreds of millions [00:12:34] allocated for Haredi education." This is [00:12:37] the main and very important headline in HaMevaser newspaper. [00:12:41] In Yated Ne'eman, at least here on the front page, the [00:12:44] main headline is "Escalation on the Northern Border, Winds of War [00:12:47] in Lebanon." These are the [00:12:50] newspaper headlines. 6 [00:17:38] May their memory be blessed. We will [00:17:40] continue to deal with this later. Now this morning [00:17:44] here on Kan News on Reshet Bet, the weather forecast. Oren [00:17:47] Dudov, duty forecaster at the Meteorological Service. Hello Oren. [00:17:51] Hello, good morning. So let's start the morning with partly [00:17:54] cloudy weather. Later today it will become fair to clear. [00:17:58] We will feel a slight drop in temperatures, mainly in the cities [00:18:01] and inland. They will still be slightly higher than usual [00:18:05] for the season, but not far from the seasonal [00:18:07] average. Still heat stress, mostly moderate [00:18:11] to heavy in most areas, as is typical for the Israeli summer. [00:18:14] Towards the end of the week, and tomorrow, [00:18:17] temperatures will continue to drop slightly, but still, [00:18:20] as mentioned, heat stress that is classic [00:18:23] for the Israeli summer. From Saturday onwards into mid- [00:18:27] next week, we will begin a renewed gradual warming [00:18:29] towards another summer heat wave [00:18:33] that will accompany us from the beginning of next week [00:18:37] towards. Mid-next week, but it won't be as extreme as it was [00:18:40] last week, at the beginning of the month. We will [00:18:43] continue to monitor. Meanwhile, stay cool as [00:18:46] much as possible. Absolutely, drink water, [00:18:49] and as usual, we will also make sure to provide water in [00:18:52] bowls for cats, dogs, [00:18:55] and birds, animals that also [00:19:08] with the next news, murder, again murder, this time [00:19:11] in Tayibe. Last night a 57-year-old resident of Tira [00:19:15] was murdered in his car. This is the 154th [00:19:19] murder in the Arab community since the beginning of the year. Our correspondent Hadas [00:19:22] Greenberg with the details. Murder in Tayibe. Around 10 [00:19:25] PM last night, a 57-year-old man was shot at close range while sitting [00:19:29] in his car. MDA teams that arrived at the scene were forced to pronounce him dead [00:19:32] on the spot. The deceased is Khuziyyat Bishara, a 56-year-old [00:19:36] resident of Tira. [00:19:38] His wife, Susan Bishara, was murdered a year ago in April last [00:19:42] year, after she was threatened. After the murder [00:19:45] of his wife, Ziyad Bishara said that [00:19:49] he feared he was next in line. Just a week ago, [00:19:52] Bishara's son was accused of murdering a young [00:19:55] man in Tayibe and attempting to murder another young man. [00:19:59] The police, as mentioned, opened an investigation into the circumstances of Ziyad [00:20:02] Bishara's murder. Since the beginning of the year, 154 people [00:20:05] have been murdered [00:20:08] in the Arab community. Yes, terrible. This is also related [00:20:11] to the governance we talked about earlier. This morning, now [00:20:15] a short break, back soon. [00:20:18] Back soon with Ran [00:20:21] Benyamini. Kan News, on Reshet [00:20:25] Bet. Playing with [00:20:27] the children. [00:20:31] All that was forbidden to tell about Khamenei. [00:20:35] Enemies, Saturday night. 11 and Kanbox. [00:20:49] One day he called. It's [00:23:08] 6:27 this morning on Reshet Bet. Now the morning [00:23:11] headlines. A short while ago, the IDF Spokesperson allowed to publish that [00:23:15] two IDF soldiers from the Paratroopers Brigade fell in southern Lebanon [00:23:19] yesterday. In an explosion of an explosive device in a [00:23:22] booby-trapped building in the village of Majdal Zun. Major [00:23:25] (res.) Harel Biranstock, company commander in Battalion [00:23:28] 2855, Spearhead Formation, 34 [00:23:32] years old from Nokdim, and Staff Sergeant (res.) [00:23:36] Tamir Vaknin, 33 years old from Eilat. May [00:23:39] their memory be blessed. In the incident, four soldiers were seriously [00:23:43] wounded, and their families were notified. Our correspondents Carmela [00:23:46] Menashe and Itai Blumental report that the area where [00:23:50] the booby-trapped building was located has been under IDF control for a long time, [00:23:54] and it seems the army was not aware of the booby-trapped [00:23:57] building. [00:23:59] The tension in the Persian Gulf. President Trump reiterates that Iran must [00:24:03] not have nuclear weapons and he prefers to reach [00:24:06] a deal with Tehran because he does not like to kill [00:24:10] people. [00:24:21] They respect us, our correspondent Natan Gutman reports that at the event in Las Vegas [00:24:25] last night, the American President stated that the administration [00:24:28] is in contact with the Iranian regime. "We'll see what [00:24:31] happens," he said. "Once the issue with Iran is resolved, [00:24:35] fuel prices will drop," the President promises. [00:24:39] The question is when this issue with [00:24:42] Iran will be resolved. These are the [00:24:43] morning headlines. [00:24:48] Returning to the escalation in Lebanon. In Lebanon, they are trying to take advantage of the round of negotiations [00:24:52] that has been taking place for two days in Rome to at least [00:24:55] reduce the Israeli response to Hezbollah's [00:24:58] violations. Head of the Arab World department, Roie Kais, we are with you Roie. [00:25:02] It seems that the leadership in Beirut is pinning hopes on the Americans. Hello [00:25:05] Roie. Yes, so on the Lebanese side, they are trying to take advantage [00:25:09] of the fact that this escalation is happening in the midst [00:25:12] of a direct round of talks between Israel and Lebanon [00:25:16] that is taking place in Rome under American auspices, to try and [00:25:20] do what, from their perspective, is damage control. In other [00:25:23] words, to restrain the Israeli response as much as possible, [00:25:27] with the Lebanese, of course, wanting to enlist [00:25:30] the Americans to put pressure on Israel regarding [00:25:34] this issue. It's no coincidence that yesterday, in the midst of the talks and immediately [00:25:38] after Israel and the IDF issued an evacuation order for the village of Al [00:25:42] Mansouri, a Shiite village in southern Lebanon, following Hezbollah's [00:25:45] violation, the Lebanese delegation told the Israeli [00:25:48] delegation, "Come on, cancel it, we are still in negotiations." [00:25:52] The Lebanese are counting on the fact that ultimately [00:25:55] the Americans, who are sponsoring this whole thing, want [00:25:59] the talks to succeed, which are currently progressing quite slowly. [00:26:02] And the understanding that if there is too significant an escalation [00:26:06] in the Lebanese arena, it will naturally harm [00:26:09] the talks. The one who is in the middle, of course, is the Lebanese [00:26:12] Hezbollah organization. Sheikh Na'im Qassem, who leads [00:26:16] it, has been issuing very militant statements in recent [00:26:20] days and in the last 24 hours against these negotiations. He even says [00:26:23] himself that he needs to put a spoke in the wheels, accusing the Lebanese [00:26:27] leadership of very serious accusations. And therefore, his [00:26:30] interest is naturally to continue [00:26:32] with provocations and attempts to harm our [00:26:36] forces on the ground, because from Na'im Qassem's perspective, and they do [00:26:39] not hide this in Hezbollah, the preferred path for resolving [00:26:43] the Lebanese issue is not the direct path between the Lebanese state [00:26:47] and Israel, because that takes away Hezbollah's power. It is actually [00:26:50] the path between the United States and Iran, because [00:26:53] there the Iranians remain in the picture of the Lebanese [00:26:56] arena, and that naturally strengthens Hezbollah against [00:27:00] the Lebanese state. Thank you. [00:27:04] Now to a completely different matter. We are in August, the big [00:27:07] holiday, also a period between times, many go out to hike in nature. [00:27:10] The question is what does nature look like? This morning we are reporting that forest rangers of [00:27:14] the Jewish National Fund were shocked to discover in the Nahshon [00:27:18] Forest in the Judean lowlands, huge piles of garbage [00:27:21] that were probably unloaded from garbage trucks in the heart of the [00:27:25] natural area. It is estimated that 40 cubic meters of concentrated [00:27:28] waste were dumped in the forest, which causes real damage to the [00:27:33] environment. Not to mention the disgust that awaits anyone who comes to hike [00:27:37] in the forest or have a picnic. Haim Teperberg, director of the Jewish National Fund's [00:27:40] inspection unit. Hello Haim. [00:27:43] Good morning. On the radio, you can't convey the smell, but we'll try to convey the sights. [00:27:47] What does it look like on the ground? [00:27:50] Look, we are talking about a much broader phenomenon, [00:27:54] not a specific point. Here in [00:27:57] Mateh Yehuda, they saw a pile of 40 cubic meters, we are talking [00:28:00] about hundreds of thousands of cubic meters [00:28:04] that are being dumped today in open areas and on JNF [00:28:07] lands, not just one point, like [00:28:11] this, freely, turning our nature into a garbage dump. [00:28:14] Yes, it's easiest today to, look, [00:28:17] dumping waste at authorized sites costs [00:28:20] a lot of money today. Entering an authorized site to dump [00:28:23] mixed waste costs between 150 and 400 [00:28:27] shekels per ton of waste. That's [00:28:30] not a small amount. It's better. Or a contractor to take [00:28:34] the risk and go down some [00:28:37] side road into the open areas where no one sees them [00:28:40] and dump it. [00:28:43] And you, as the director of the KKL-JNF enforcement unit, [00:28:46] sometimes see this in real time, [00:28:49] as it happens. [00:28:51] Look, we are the KKL-JNF enforcement unit. [00:28:55] The KKL-JNF invests [00:28:59] many resources [00:29:02] in this issue. In enforcement. [00:29:05] If it's with technological means, we have today [00:29:09] a visual array, one of the most advanced [00:29:11] in the world, and we [00:29:15] control the area quite, [00:29:18] quite well and fully. But we should not forget [00:29:22] that we currently manage about two million dunams of forest lands, [00:29:26] and that's a lot. But [00:29:28] you have enforcement powers. What can you do when you see something like this? [00:29:32] First of all, we never work alone, okay, always [00:29:36] in incidents where we go out [00:29:38] for enforcement operations and enforcement activities, covert [00:29:42] investigations, we collaborate with enforcement [00:29:44] bodies. In such cases of waste, whether it's green [00:29:48] police and green patrol, and the Ministry of [00:29:51] Environmental Protection, we work together, and there is enforcement, there [00:29:54] are arrests, there are indictments. Look, I have [00:29:57] to tell you that in the last year and a half, two [00:30:00] years, uh, there are indictments, [00:30:03] dozens of trucks have been confiscated [00:30:06] and bulldozers, [00:30:08] and private cars and Jeeps of the contractors. The [00:30:11] contractors, it's a very organized thing, they come and block [00:30:15] the entrances to the forest. The trucks come in, they actually [00:30:18] build landfills, illegal landfills, [00:30:21] in the forests, in the open areas. So here, [00:30:25] despite all that, you say there is enforcement activity, yet it [00:30:28] continues, so what's not working here? Look. [00:30:32] At the point you brought up at the beginning in Mateh [00:30:35] Yehuda, it's obvious, you know, it's in an area where people [00:30:39] walk around and see. Most of these landfills are in hidden [00:30:42] places that you can't see. Only with [00:30:46] information and only with aerial surveillance can we locate [00:30:49] them, and then we start dealing with them. In these [00:30:53] two years, we have invested thousands of hours, thousands [00:30:56] of working hours in collecting material, [00:30:59] in incrimination, until we reach. So what else do you [00:31:03] need to get to a point where you have a full [00:31:06] picture of all these law violations? Do you need more manpower, [00:31:10] more technological means? What's missing, [00:31:12] Haim? Look, technological [00:31:16] means, [00:31:18] We usually advance with progress there, [00:31:22] okay, that technology is advancing, we are advancing [00:31:25] with it, we can be, the quality [00:31:28] of our enforcement can be, [00:31:31] very good, even excellent, and we work and we catch and we [00:31:35] eradicate, but let's be, Ran, let's be fair [00:31:38] to ourselves and to the public, enforcement is not [00:31:41] a solution, enforcement is a means, we can reduce. The [00:31:45] phenomenon, we can hurt the pockets [00:31:48] of the ... spouts, of [00:31:51] the contractors, of the owners of the trucks. The solution is [00:31:54] of the state. That is, we are [00:31:57] at waste disposal sites, today, today, look, today, [00:32:01] in order for them to get form four for a house, they have to give [00:32:05] approval for disposal at regulated disposal sites, so the contractors [00:32:08] get approval for disposal, but they don't dispose at the site, they throw [00:32:12] in the forest. We are talking about something complex. Today we [00:32:15] need, the state needs to encourage the contractors, [00:32:19] to dump at their sites, why [00:32:21] should they pay 5, 6,000 shekels for a truck, [00:32:25] so it's clear that they will look for the open areas, and what body is a governmental ministry [00:32:29] needs, needs to ensure that the law [00:32:32] is preserved, [00:32:35] that the law is preserved or to strengthen the law, that the law [00:32:37] is preserved, both and also enforcement units, okay, [00:32:41] that there are enforcement units to uphold the law, and the enforcement units. [00:32:45] All of them do their work faithfully [00:32:48] and indeed so. The state, the government ministries [00:32:51] need to strengthen the law. The Ministry of Environmental [00:32:54] Protection, the Ministry of National Security, the Ministry of [00:32:57] Justice. You, you as the head, as the head of the [00:33:00] inspection unit of Keren Kayemet LeIsrael, are in contact with [00:33:03] these ministries, not getting enough assistance? Let's, let's open this up, [00:33:07] Haim. No problem opening, everything is open, [00:33:11] Ran, we work as one. As soon as we [00:33:15] work together with several hats, then the quality of our enforcement, [00:33:18] our professionalism, is maximized, [00:33:22] but again, as soon as there is no, no, no [00:33:26] law or no tightening of the law, that they will be tougher with [00:33:29] these people, and that they will encourage [00:33:32] them to come and dump at the regulated sites, then why would [00:33:36] that happen? [00:33:38] Tell me, finally, Haim, what, now we talked about [00:33:42] contractors who really do this with large quantities of'. And trucks and so on, what [00:33:46] about the lone hiker at this [00:33:49] time? How, uh, how is the awareness of Israeli [00:33:53] citizens, their [00:33:54] education? [00:33:58] It is clear that the issue of environmental [00:34:01] quality, it is an educational issue, it needs to be instilled [00:34:04] in the education system, [00:34:07] like many other things, and this way in the next generation maybe we will [00:34:11] somewhat reduce this [00:34:14] issue. Keren Kayemet with its public relations [00:34:17] system, as everyone sees on television, [00:34:20] on the radio, we do indeed communicate this [00:34:23] outwards, whether it's about waste or about fire, [00:34:27] or about receiving public that Keren Kayemet [00:34:30] invests many millions to [00:34:33] maximize the public's enjoyment at its [00:34:37] sites, and [00:34:40] yes, we just need to implement this and protect our [00:34:44] nature. Especially Haim Tepperberg, director of the inspection unit [00:34:47] of JNF, thank you very much Haim, thank you Ran, [00:34:51] but if I may add one more small thing, we, [00:34:54] we are in extreme weather days, we [00:34:57] invite the public to enjoy our sites always [00:35:00] and at all times, and we ask everyone to be our [00:35:04] eyes and our ears in the field and to protect against [00:35:08] fire and waste and to report anything that is [00:35:11] not in order to the public, thank you very much Ran, thank you. [00:35:16] This morning on Reshet Bet, almost 6:40, [00:35:19] a little politics in the next few minutes, a little over 80 days [00:35:23] until the elections, October 27th, that's the day, we are [00:35:26] getting closer, here with us in the studio is Yair Ettinger, our commentator [00:35:30] on religion and state, hello Yair, good morning, so let's [00:35:34] talk about religion and politics with the news published just [00:35:37] for the first time by our political reporter Shahar [00:35:40] Glick about the fact that associates of Chairman of the Yesh Atid party Gadi [00:35:43] Eizenkot. Behind the scenes, the establishment of [00:35:47] the ultra-Orthodox public party that appeals to the liberal [00:35:50] ultra-Orthodox public, they were also involved in forming [00:35:54] its infrastructure and strategy. Yes, [00:35:57] so many people saw in the last two or three [00:36:00] weeks across the country a huge [00:36:03] campaign on buses, billboards. [00:36:06] The ultra-Orthodox public, Moti Litner, someone a rather [00:36:10] unknown person, and two headlines [00:36:13] are somehow connected. About Moti Litner this morning, so indeed [00:36:17] the first one concerns Aizenkot because people working [00:36:19] with Aizenkot behind [00:36:23] the scenes were involved, as our reporter Shahar Glick published yesterday. [00:36:28] They were involved in the establishment of that party. Let's say a word about [00:36:31] this party. This is basically a party, currently the campaign is focused on Litner [00:36:35] wanting a reserved spot [00:36:38] in the party, in the monopoly called [00:36:42] United Torah Judaism. But in fact, he is aiming for an independent [00:36:45] run after his request will likely be rejected. [00:36:49] And this is a politician from Beit Shemesh, he has a faction of [00:36:53] two mandates in Beit Shemesh, he is even a member [00:36:56] of the coalition, but... he challenges United Torah Judaism [00:36:59] and he because he is not part, he is not part, not in terms [00:37:02] of his messages, in terms of messages he goes on a delicate line [00:37:06] says I represent the working [00:37:08] Haredim, I represent the many American [00:37:12] Haredim who also serve in the army more integrated into Israeli [00:37:15] society, my line is not a separatist line, enlistment, he [00:37:19] says yes, whoever doesn't study should enlist, he goes on [00:37:22] a certain line, he is not in open rebellion against United [00:37:26] Torah Judaism. Whoever pulls the strings, one can say, is Gadi [00:37:30] Eisenkot, according to what Shahar Glick published [00:37:34] yesterday, Gadi Eisenkot's advisors are involved [00:37:36] in the matter, and yes, and were involved in all stages, they really [00:37:40] want there to be a liberal ultra-Orthodox party, or do they want these [00:37:44] votes to be wasted, wasted, [00:37:48] burned because he won't pass the electoral threshold, so here it's already a matter of interpretation, [00:37:52] what is really the intention behind this, is the intention really [00:37:55] to thwart this attempt? [00:37:57] This or the intention is perhaps also to integrate the Haredim, it could be that Moti [00:38:01] Litner in some constellation hopes [00:38:04] for a reservation in one of the parties, if not Haredi, perhaps not Haredi, because there [00:38:08] is already a stage of speculation here, but it's very very [00:38:11] interesting that these very very veteran political advisors [00:38:14] are involved in the establishment of [00:38:18] the party, that's one part. The second headline [00:38:21] we promised is a new old name, a new old name, it [00:38:25] was published in Channel 12 News. [00:38:27] That the one who is in contact with Moti Litner [00:38:31] is Eli Yishai, former chairman of Shas [00:38:35] we know he has been on the bench for over [00:38:38] a decade because after his removal when [00:38:42] Aryeh Deri arrived at first there was some shared rule if [00:38:45] you remember there was a triangle of several chairmen [00:38:48] together with Ariel Attias at some point Eli Yishai [00:38:52] simply resigned and he told us Eli Yishai in an interview [00:38:55] three years ago. He said: I intend to return, I haven't [00:38:59] gone anywhere, and now this publication [00:39:02] that he is in contact with Moti Litner, would you define Eli [00:39:06] Yishai as a liberal Haredi? No, but he [00:39:09] is definitely a Haredi who is not part of this monopoly, he is not part [00:39:12] of the establishment, of the power, and it should be remembered that the Haredi parties, [00:39:16] ah, yes, indeed, anyone who runs against the parties, even if his messages [00:39:20] are not rebellious against the parties and says the parties cause [00:39:23] harm, anyone who runs outside, the very fact of running outside [00:39:27] is... to cast doubt or to rebel [00:39:30] against the parties, so Yair, as someone who knows both the leaders of the public and also [00:39:34] the public itself, the ultra-Orthodox public, how much does this really reflect the sentiments within [00:39:38] the ultra-Orthodox public? Excellent, so I would really not bet that these parties [00:39:41] will pass, will reach the next Knesset, it's not a major split, but I [00:39:45] would say that this is a breaking of a fear [00:39:48] barrier against those large empires [00:39:51] that are United Torah Judaism and Shas, which it should be remembered [00:39:55] are not just parties but employers. Big ones, they [00:39:58] churn out a lot of money, it's an establishment with a lot of power against [00:40:02] these parties, suddenly how many, there are small [00:40:05] parties, fragments of parties, attempts, and it seems [00:40:09] to me [00:40:12] that Litner's party is not the only one, there are two or three other such [00:40:15] attempts, it seems to me that those people [00:40:19] who criticize the establishment who say, we are willing to run outside, they are not currently [00:40:23] so afraid, when Eli Yishai did this at some point there was his party [00:40:27] that he. [00:40:32] What are you doing running against the words of Rabbi Ovadia? I think that time has passed. [00:40:35] Currently, the fear barrier is [00:40:38] in one of the most difficult election campaigns [00:40:41] in its history, it was right to define it this way. Yes, absolutely, [00:40:44] because there are these winds of rebellion, and it's not [00:40:48] just competing parties, it's also people who are unmotivated [00:40:51] to vote, people who are disappointed with the party for Aryeh [00:40:54] Deri. Opposition of all kinds comes [00:40:58] to Shas conferences and boos him because there are all kinds of calculations [00:41:01] with rabbis around Rabbi Yitzhak Yosef and his appointment to the Council of Sages. [00:41:05] There are all kinds of fragments, all kinds of types [00:41:09] of criticism that he [00:41:12] receives, both from the more integrating direction and also from the more [00:41:16] segregating direction. Aryeh Deri is in a difficult [00:41:19] election campaign, and on the other hand, we know that he knows how to play politics and get back his [00:41:23] mandates even at the last minute, so let's continue with playing politics and talk [00:41:26] about the Prime Minister's U-turn this week, who just [00:41:30] a few weeks [00:41:33] ago promoted and pushed the exemption law, even though physically he was not [00:41:37] there to be seen voting. In favor, but the [00:41:41] coalition indeed promoted the detention law, and now this week, [00:41:44] a turnaround, yes, not a turnaround and not a half turnaround, [00:41:47] ah, let's just say, he said in closed-door conversations, in quotation marks, [00:41:51] that he thinks the exemption law was a mistake, and now in the next [00:41:54] government they will act to pass a conscription law that will really conscript, and whoever doesn't [00:41:58] enlist will go to jail, even [00:42:01] so, so there's some kind of message sheet that we hear, essentially [00:42:05] it's a kind of dance that the Prime Minister is dancing with Yitzhak Goldknopf [00:42:09] and with also. Factors within Haredi politics that say we are not together [00:42:13] the match between us is doubtful it could be that we [00:42:15] will look for a match outside, yes you are smiling [00:42:19] because it sounds, how shall we put it delicately, not exactly realistic, [00:42:23] somewhat staged, we know that in the end politicians [00:42:27] are judged not by their statements but by their actions, we are already seeing [00:42:31] in the past few weeks budgetary transfers, exactly, budgetary transfers [00:42:34] by the way, also to what is called yeshivas for dropouts, where [00:42:38] the students are. [00:42:40] Those who don't study Torah, who dropped out of Torah [00:42:43] study frameworks who could have enlisted according to the Likud. Yes, these are institutions [00:42:47] whose purpose is to prevent those who don't study from [00:42:51] enlisting, and therefore actions are much more interesting than [00:42:54] statements. Ah, but nevertheless, I think we are [00:42:58] about 80-something days before the election campaign, just two weeks [00:43:02] ago we finished the big legislative blitz, [00:43:05] that Netanyahu gave to Shas and United Torah Judaism, and these 80-something [00:43:09] days. I think that one of the goals from the Likud's [00:43:12] perspective is to make us forget those actions or [00:43:16] that very close cooperation with the ultra-Orthodox [00:43:20] parties, perhaps to appeal a little to the Likud [00:43:23] audience who doesn't like this connection so much, or which Ettinger, is our [00:43:27] memory really that short? I think so, no, yes, [00:43:31] yes, I think the Israeli voter's memory is short, [00:43:34] will it completely be forgotten? I don't know, but it might [00:43:38] dull the sting of [00:43:41] last month. Yes, good, a few words about the Religious Zionism [00:43:44] party this week, developments on that front? [00:43:47] Uh, not so much, I think there were primaries [00:43:50] of, rather limited primaries of Religious [00:43:53] Zionism, that was last week already, currently [00:43:56] waiting to see, Bezalel Smotrich said he intends [00:44:00] to bring another voice, another reserved spot, it's clear that this [00:44:03] will happen in the higher places, he said he wants [00:44:06] to improve the representation of the party because he understands [00:44:10] very well that the [00:44:13] team that was elected last week is [00:44:15] made of one type, so they are waiting for that name [00:44:19] that might appeal to a different [00:44:23] audience or diversify the list, that's not [00:44:26] happening yet, yes, so to conclude, apropos names, [00:44:29] let's talk about the, ah, competition [00:44:32] in a not very large area called the Third Bloc, many [00:44:36] candidates there who today will launch. [00:44:51] Can it really be defined as a center, neither here nor there, or [00:44:55] does the tendency lean more to the right? Yes, no, it's [00:44:58] the center, it's the center that hopes to be the center, but in connection [00:45:02] with your previous question about religious Zionism, notice that all these parties have [00:45:06] representation for MKs or [00:45:09] for those who are want to be MKs who are Religious [00:45:13] Zionists, and there it's actually this derby [00:45:16] happening outside the party defined as Religious Zionism, meaning [00:45:19] Ropper and Hendel, that's on the spectrum [00:45:22] and you mentioned Edelstein, there's [00:45:25] Winter there, they are all of course working in these areas outside [00:45:28] the party called Religious Zionism, outside a sectoral party [00:45:32] but with a very prominent presence within [00:45:36] the sector. Ah, this is the next contest, and I think [00:45:39] that there's a, there's truth in what whoever thinks [00:45:43] that this could decide the elections, there's nothing to [00:45:47] rely on, so is this a risk in your opinion as a commentator on religion and state? What were [00:45:50] these elections about? About what they were last time, about [00:45:54] Netanyahu, not only was there no October 7th, we were then before [00:45:57] right 80, a little over 80 days [00:46:00] until October 27th, it was very interesting. Ettinger, our commentator, thank you very much. [00:46:04] Thank you, and again let's repeat the news [00:46:08] we started the broadcast with. So the IDF spokesman allowed to publish today, allowed [00:46:12] this morning to publish, that in southern Lebanon two IDF soldiers fell yesterday [00:46:16] from the 55th Paratroopers Brigade in an explosion of an improvised [00:46:19] explosive device in a booby-trapped building in the village of Majdal Zun. Major [00:46:23] (res.) Harel Birnstock, company commander in Battalion [00:46:25] 2855 of the Spearhead formation, 34 years [00:46:29] old from Nokdim, and Staff Sergeant Major (res.) Tamir Vaknin, [00:46:32] 33 years old from Eilat. [00:46:35] In the incident, four soldiers [00:46:38] were severely wounded. Their families were notified. [00:46:42] The area, the incident, the clash was in an area where [00:46:45] the IDF had long been in control. [00:46:49] Apparently, the army did not know about the booby-trapped building. [00:46:53] As a result of the explosion, Harel Birnstock [00:46:57] and Tamir Vaknin, IDF soldiers, fell. May their memory [00:47:00] be blessed. Now [00:47:04] we are with you, Yoav Krakovsky, [00:47:07] our political commentator. Yoav, are you with us? Hello Ran, good [00:47:11] morning, hello, good, we talked a little politics with Yair, let's [00:47:14] continue with you. You know, following the [00:47:18] security escalation, Yoav, this [00:47:22] is happening in the week when Defense Minister Haim Katz launches, excuse [00:47:25] me, Yisrael Katz launches his campaign [00:47:28] in prime time where it was quoted [00:47:31] verbatim, a real defense minister, a powerful one, with an [00:47:35] eloquent smile, a right-wing defense minister, very [00:47:39] right-wing, very right-wing, and a powerful one, that was also true, [00:47:42] and in fact we see what [00:47:44] this defense minister wants to do, unlike the defense [00:47:48] minister who didn't talk about it, it must be said, the former [00:47:51] defense minister, Yoav Gallant, hardly gave interviews throughout [00:47:55] his tenure, we hardly heard him, especially after [00:47:58] October 7th, only after he resigned or [00:48:02] was fired by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu [00:48:05] from his position, what we see is a defense minister who has been [00:48:09] Ran, throughout his entire term, throughout [00:48:13] his entire term in prime time, and it started [00:48:16] with the cancellation of [00:48:19] the administrative detentions, which was. Direct [00:48:22] communication with the base and continued throughout, also [00:48:26] the appointment of Eyal Zamir, it's about [00:48:30] a more aggressive Chief of Staff, you remember the [00:48:32] expressions then of Eyal [00:48:36] Zamir's floor being the ceiling of Herzi Halevi, this is basically [00:48:39] perhaps the main message, constantly talking about a lot of power [00:48:43] and if necessary even more power in order [00:48:47] to try to demonstrate belligerence, [00:48:50] initiative, this. [00:48:55] And I saw in the video of the Minister of Defense bragging about military achievements, [00:48:59] and it's nice, in quotation marks, that before October 7th, and certainly on that [00:49:02] terrible day, all the failures were not [00:49:06] related to the political echelon, it was only the army, but after military [00:49:09] achievements, the army is not mentioned, it's only the Minister of Defense [00:49:12] himself, that's right, that's exactly the point, and it's always been this [00:49:16] way, by the way, it should be emphasized that both the Prime Minister and the current [00:49:19] Minister of Defense actually say. Our main [00:49:23] takeaway from the events of October 7th is [00:49:27] that we make the decisions. There is no more political [00:49:30] echelon, excuse me, there is no more military echelon, no more professional [00:49:34] echelon. This is true for what is happening in the security establishment, this [00:49:38] is also true for other ministers in the government, Shlomo [00:49:41] Karhi who completely ignores any ruling or statement from [00:49:45] the High Court or the professional echelon in the Ministry of Communications, this is true [00:49:48] across the board in the government, this is ostensibly what we see. Short [00:49:58] time and I want to hear your perspective on what is called the Third Bloc and those [00:50:02] who will present their new party today, [00:50:05] Gilden and Yuli Edelstein, two right-wing [00:50:08] figures, two former Likud members, and this is suspicious in the eyes [00:50:12] of many who say or suspect [00:50:15] that perhaps they will eventually join Netanyahu. [00:50:18] Is there a basis for this concern or [00:50:22] suspicion? There are four parties developing in this bloc, the Third [00:50:25] Bloc, the Zionist Home that launched yesterday, Gil Adradan and Edelstein [00:50:29] today, Blue and White and Ofer Winter, I would place them on a type [00:50:31] of spectrum, the Zionist Home [00:50:34] is perhaps closer to the possibility [00:50:38] of joining Eisenkot, but the Zionist Home reservists, that's Hendel and Trupper, [00:50:42] Trupper exactly, but Gilad Erdan, [00:50:45] Edelstein, Blue and White and Winter, much much [00:50:48] more connected to the possibility of joining Benjamin Netanyahu, regarding [00:50:51] Gilad Erdan. Let's say that they can be looked at exactly [00:50:55] with the same eyes that we looked at or look at Kahlon and [00:50:59] Gidon Saar, people who were harmed by Benjamin [00:51:02] Netanyahu, and when they [00:51:05] know that they are on Netanyahu's list in the Likud, they are not, they are not likely [00:51:09] to get positions. The purpose of such a list is to improve [00:51:12] their position against Netanyahu, and perhaps [00:51:16] then when Netanyahu needs you for a coalition, he is the best [00:51:19] legitimate suitor, when you are on his list. He doesn't really count [00:51:23] you, so Edelstein and Erdan, who were very hurt [00:51:27] by Netanyahu, want to perhaps improve their position in order [00:51:30] to join him in the government after [00:51:33] the elections, they are not ready to join [00:51:36] a government with the participation of Yair Golan, Yoav, in 20 [00:51:39] seconds, a new name or an old new Likud member [00:51:42] who moves to Yisrael Beiteinu, MK [00:51:45] Dennis, in fact, you know, he takes his shares, [00:51:49] very, very significant shares, in his struggle within [00:51:52] the coalition against the Likud, against Prime Minister [00:51:55] Benjamin Netanyahu, and tries to realize them in a realistic spot in Yisrael [00:51:59] Beiteinu, leaving something of Yisrael Beiteinu, that still talks [00:52:03] to the public of new immigrants, immigrants [00:52:06] from France, so this is actually an attempt to realize [00:52:09] a successful share for him, with many [00:52:13] names that Lieberman brought in the last period, at least for Ayalon, [00:52:16] a realistic spot is guaranteed in the top ten of Yoav, thank you very much, [00:52:19] thank you, we're finishing the first hour, Guy writes, [00:52:23] Huppert Hayut, Rachel Eli, Yossi Tenoury, I'm Ran Binyamini, commercials, news [00:52:27] at seven o'clock and we're [00:52:28] here. [00:52:37] All they did was talk about Khamenei, [00:52:40] Enemies, Saturday night on Kan 11 and Kan [00:56:17] Hello and good morning, seven o'clock now with the news update. This morning [00:56:21] it was cleared for publication that in southern Lebanon yesterday, two IDF [00:56:25] soldiers from the 55th Paratroopers Brigade fell in an explosion [00:56:28] of an improvised explosive device in a booby-trapped building in the village of Majdal Zoun. Major [00:56:32] (res.) Harel Birnstock, commander of Battalion [00:56:35] 2855 of the Spearhead formation, 34 years [00:56:39] old from Nokdim, and Staff Sergeant Major (res.) [00:56:42] Tamir Vaknin, 33 years old from Eilat. Notification was given [00:56:46] to their families. May their memory be blessed. In the same [00:56:50] incident, four reserve soldiers were severely [00:56:53] wounded. The incident occurred yesterday around 12 [00:56:57] noon in the village of Btater which is located within the Israeli [00:57:00] security zone. Paratroopers in reserve secured [00:57:04] engineering works with mechanical equipment and entered [00:57:07] a building that turned out to be booby-trapped. The IDF says [00:57:10] that this is a violation of the ceasefire. And against the backdrop [00:57:12] of the rising tension in Lebanon, [00:57:15] Israeli sources say that the response to Hezbollah's violation [00:57:19] of the ceasefire is not yet over, and that [00:57:23] additional options are being considered. Last night, for the first time in [00:57:26] many weeks, the Air Force attacked a series of targets in the Tyre [00:57:30] area and in southern Lebanon. Itay Blumental, our military and security [00:57:33] correspondent. Last night's attacks are a continuation of yesterday's [00:57:36] IDF attacks. That's right, Yontan, for the first time in many [00:57:40] weeks, the Air Force attacked yesterday afternoon, a series of targets in southern [00:57:43] Lebanon, headquarters, weapons depots, and Hezbollah infrastructure. [00:57:47] The IDF explained that this was a response to the terrorist organization's violation [00:57:51] of the ceasefire. At this stage, we cannot elaborate on the incident [00:57:55] that occurred yesterday afternoon. Israeli officials [00:57:58] tell us that Israel's response to Hezbollah's violation is not yet [00:58:01] over, and that additional options are currently being considered, [00:58:05] including actions that were considered sensitive. Israel's response [00:58:08] is subject to the approval of the political echelon. And beyond the IDF [00:58:11] attacks, yesterday the IDF unusually issued an evacuation notice to the residents of the village of Al Mansouri [00:58:15] in the western sector. The first evacuation notice in [00:58:19] many weeks, the IDF explained that this is a village that is under [00:58:22] Israeli control and that residents of the village returned inside [00:58:26] under the guise of the Lebanese army, contrary to the agreement signed between [00:58:29] Israel and Lebanon with US mediation. [00:58:31] Regarding [00:58:34] the escalation in the north, the negotiations between Israel and Lebanon [00:58:37] were suspended. Our political correspondent Gili Cohen, you are reporting on the reason [00:58:41] for the suspension of the talks, Gili, yes Yontan, [00:58:44] hello, the negotiations are expected to resume today. To Rome between [00:58:48] Israel and Lebanon, after [00:58:50] they were suspended yesterday, the reason, according to a source in the Israeli [00:58:53] negotiating team, is rooted [00:58:56] in leaks, [00:58:58] whose source, at least according to that source, is on the Lebanese side, but [00:59:02] the truth is that there is also a kind of flexing of muscles by [00:59:05] the Israeli delegation in light of the escalation [00:59:09] and the violation of the ceasefire that [00:59:11] was recorded. In Israel, there is great [00:59:14] concern about this escalation. [00:59:17] And they also intend to take additional [00:59:21] steps after the incident [00:59:24] in the north. Thank you, Gili. Now to the tension [00:59:27] in the Persian Gulf. President Trump reiterated that Iran must not have [00:59:31] nuclear weapons and that he prefers to reach a deal with Tehran because [00:59:35] he doesn't like to kill people, as he put it. Nathan [00:59:38] Guttman, our correspondent in Washington, with the report. The United States [00:59:42] hopes to reach an agreement with Iran on opening the Strait of Hormuz as early as today [00:59:45] or tomorrow. The talks are at [00:59:52] a standstill, waiting for the Iranian side's approval and the Supreme Leader's agreement [00:59:55] to understandings that have already been reached. Last night, a ship passing through the Strait of Hormuz [00:59:59] reported hearing explosions, but beyond that, the relative calm [01:00:03] in the strait has been maintained for several days. President Trump said [01:00:06] yesterday that he prefers to make a deal over returning [01:00:09] to war because he doesn't want to kill people, in his words. [01:00:12] Trump reiterated that he is still waiting to see what the outcome of the negotiations with [01:00:16] the Iranians will be. The intention of the United States is to return to direct talks with [01:00:20] Iran on the nuclear issue immediately after an agreement is reached regarding the Strait [01:00:24] of Hormuz. Yoav Horowitz, who was Netanyahu's confidant, Director-General [01:00:28] of the Prime Minister's Office, reveals [01:00:31] everything tomorrow in the Friday News Edition on Kan News, [01:00:34] the full interview with our correspondent Gili [01:00:36] Cohen. [01:00:39] I really wanted to work with Netanyahu, and I knew a Netanyahu [01:00:43] who I thought was statesmanlike. [01:00:49] If I ever thought that was true, today I know it's not [01:00:51] true. Power corrupts [01:00:55] both moral values, but it corrupts the perception [01:00:58] of reality. [01:01:01] The State of Israel files an indictment against Benjamin Netanyahu, going [01:01:04] to war against the State [01:01:05] of Israel. [01:01:10] And that's all for our news update for this hour. Immediately after us, this morning [01:01:13] Emran Benyaminy on Kan News on Reshet Bet. Our next update is at 8:00. [01:01:18] Have a good and quiet morning, see you in the meantime. [01:01:34] 7:05. Hello and good morning from Jerusalem. [01:01:37] This morning, the second hour. We continue until 8:00 on your radio [01:01:41] and live on Kan 11. And we begin with the serious incident [01:01:45] yesterday in southern Lebanon. [01:01:47] The IDF Spokesperson allowed for publication this morning that two soldiers were killed [01:01:51] and four were seriously wounded by an explosion in a [01:01:54] booby-trapped building. We are now with Carmela Menashe, our correspondent, with the details. Hello [01:01:58] Carmela. Hello Ran. Major (res.) [01:02:02] Harel Biranstock, 34 from Nokdim, company commander [01:02:06] in the 2855 spearhead formation [01:02:10] of the 55th Brigade, fell in battle in southern [01:02:13] Lebanon. Staff Sergeant (res.) Tamir Varkanin, 33 [01:02:16] from Eilat, a soldier in the 2855th [01:02:19] Battalion, spearhead, fell [01:02:23] also in the same battle in southern Lebanon. Four reserve IDF [01:02:26] soldiers were seriously wounded. The soldiers [01:02:30] received medical treatment. Their families [01:02:33] were notified. Yesterday, near 12:00, an IDF [01:02:36] force from the brigade's combat team, the 55th [01:02:39] Brigade, operated in the area of Majdal Zoun in southern [01:02:43] Lebanon, to clear the area and destroy terrorist [01:02:47] infrastructure. During the operation, the force entered [01:02:50] a site in the area. When the force entered the site, [01:02:54] an explosion occurred. incident [01:02:57] and they fall and give their lives, but in life itself, there are [01:03:13] After the incident and for the first time in many weeks, the Air [01:03:16] Force, guided by the Northern Command's fire complex [01:03:19] and the 91st Division's fire brigade, [01:03:23] attacked targets in the area. The village [01:03:26] of Majdal Zoun is located within the yellow line and under IDF [01:03:30] control. The IDF does not know at this stage when [01:03:33] the explosive device was placed in the building that the soldiers entered, whether [01:03:37] it was a new device that was placed there recently. The IDF [01:03:41] is investigating the incident and in the meantime defines [01:03:44] the incident as a flagrant violation of the ceasefire. [01:03:47] Thank you, Carmela. Staff Sergeant (res.) [01:03:50] Tamir Varkanin, and Major (res.) Harel [01:03:53] Biranstock, may their memory be a blessing. And we now say hello to Michael [01:03:57] Tomer, a childhood friend of Major Biranstock. [01:04:01] Hello Michael, hello, thank you for speaking with us. First of all, [01:04:05] we share your profound sorrow. Thank you. [01:04:09] Tell us who he was to you? [01:04:12] A childhood friend, we actually grew up together since I can [01:04:16] remember myself, through all the stages [01:04:19] of life, kindergarten, school, [01:04:22] high school, guiding in the youth movement [01:04:25] together, and later in life, through all the stages [01:04:28] of life. He was a perfect father [01:04:32] to four sweet children and a perfect [01:04:35] man to his amazing wife Alia, [01:04:38] and [01:04:41] actually, what can I say, he was a person [01:04:44] who gave himself 100% [01:04:47] to protecting the country, to protecting [01:04:50] us. Since the beginning of the war, he served [01:04:54] countless days of reserve duty, many rotations, and even between [01:04:57] rotations in the reserves in the brigade. A maneuverable [01:05:01] brigade, he dedicated his entire self to reserve [01:05:04] duty and to protecting us, and despite [01:05:08] the costs, despite knowing what it entailed, both the personal [01:05:12] costs concerning his family, as a family man [01:05:16] and also as a civil [01:05:19] engineer, [01:05:22] the consequences for his profession, for his professional advancement, he just put everything [01:05:25] aside, without, without thinking twice, he just put everything [01:05:29] aside. And he dedicated his entire self to the reserves [01:05:33] and to protecting us, and in the end he also gave [01:05:36] his life. When did you last see him? When [01:05:39] did you talk? [01:05:41] So we were just messaging on the morning of the incident. [01:05:45] Uh, we asked when, I asked him when we would ride again [01:05:49] together. I hoped that as soon as he got out of reserve duty, we could [01:05:53] meet, we could ride off-road bikes [01:05:56] together. And so, just before he [01:06:00] went into Lebanon, he sent a picture [01:06:02] of himself and said, there's [01:06:06] no time, we need to go into [01:06:08] Lebanon. [01:06:10] Uh, and when during the afternoon I realized something had happened [01:06:14] in his sector, I sent him a message [01:06:16] hoping that it wasn't him. He wouldn't [01:06:20] get that message. But you were afraid [01:06:24] it was him? I was afraid [01:06:26] it was him, of course, because I knew that I knew it was in his sector, and I knew [01:06:30] that he was a person [01:06:34] who would not let any incident pass him by. He would always be [01:06:38] at the center. I would always make sure to protect [01:06:40] his soldiers and to protect those around him in the most professional way, in the [01:06:44] most... an admired commander [01:06:47] from his regular service until every stage of his [01:06:50] reserve duty. A truly legendary [01:06:53] person, a father of four children [01:06:56] who was barely home in recent [01:06:59] years. He was barely home because he was constantly rotating [01:07:02] between duties, and even between duties, he was always [01:07:06] every time we met, he had just finished a phone call [01:07:09] related to reserve duty, another arrangement that needed to be made. His mind [01:07:13] was always on reserve duty, or suddenly, even [01:07:17] between duties, suddenly, "come for a day here and there." [01:07:20] Absolutely not a minute [01:07:23] of rest, he really [01:07:26] gave his all. Yes, is there a phrase [01:07:30] of his that resonates in your [01:07:33] mind? What's most amazing [01:07:37] about Harel is that with all this immense dedication [01:07:40] and... 100% of the... [01:07:44] and the understanding of exactly what [01:07:48] was right to do, he just didn't take himself [01:07:51] with such a bloated chest of "I'm the best in reserve duty, I do this and I do that." [01:07:54] Everything was very clear to him, [01:07:56] very [01:07:59] simple. It was clear to him that he was here [01:08:02] to protect the people of Israel, and that's what was required of him in this historical [01:08:05] period. That's what the people of Israel needed from him, and he just did it without [01:08:09] making a fuss, without taking himself too seriously. [01:08:12] He just put [01:08:16] himself there, and without overthinking [01:08:20] it, and without considering the enormous price he was paying [01:08:24] in his personal life. We owe so much to this [01:08:27] person. What is important for you that the public knows about who he was [01:08:31] as a person? It's important to me that they know there are people like this, that there [01:08:35] are people who just put their whole lives aside, [01:08:38] and that we should appreciate them, not only at a moment when there's an [01:08:42] כזה ו והם נופלים והם מוסרים את [01:08:46] people walking among us [01:08:49] who put their whole lives aside, their personal lives, their connection [01:08:53] with their children, their profession, [01:08:57] and simply dedicate everything to protecting us [01:09:00] and giving their all so that we can live our lives. We need to appreciate [01:09:04] them. We need to know that this is something so not [01:09:07] obvious. Michael Tomer, childhood friend of [01:09:10] Major Harel Biranstock, who fell yesterday [01:09:13] in Lebanon. Thank you very much for finding the [01:09:17] strength to talk to us this morning about him and for allowing us [01:09:20] to get to know him, even a little. Thank you very much and again, our condolences [01:09:24] for the heavy loss. Thank you. Thank you. Major General (res.) [01:09:27] Israel Ziv, former head of the IDF Operations Division. Hello [01:09:30] Israel. Good morning. A difficult [01:09:33] morning. Very difficult. Israel, what are your insights from the details [01:09:37] published about this severe incident, a booby-trapped [01:09:40] building in an area where the IDF has been in control for a long [01:09:42] time? [01:09:45] First of all, with your permission, I would like to express my condolences to the [01:09:48] families and wish a speedy recovery to the wounded. [01:09:51] Of course. It is unclear whether [01:09:54] the explosive device was indeed placed before the signing [01:09:58] of the agreement or after the signing of the agreement. But one thing [01:10:01] is clear, the further the talks progress, the [01:10:05] motivation of Hezbollah and also Iran behind it [01:10:09] to jeopardize the process is much higher. [01:10:12] Therefore, we are likely, [01:10:15] in my estimation, to see additional incidents of this kind or [01:10:18] others, and there is a real trap here, [01:10:22] a strategic trap and also a tactical [01:10:25] one, because on the one hand, Israel cannot not respond, right? Because that would erode [01:10:29] deterrence, it endangers the forces. On the other [01:10:32] hand, when it's clear that the Lebanese army is not doing enough, it's necessary [01:10:36] to understand that they also have a fear of being dragged [01:10:39] into a civil war. [01:10:42] But the question is, when was the explosive device placed? Was it during [01:10:46] the recent ceasefire or before, and only discovered now? [01:10:49] Does this question and the answer to it change anything [01:10:52] regarding the Israeli response and the accusation [01:10:56] that Hezbollah violated the ceasefire? Not really, because [01:10:59] it's clear [01:11:02] that if it was an isolated incident, then that question would be very [01:11:05] relevant. But the underlying assumption should be that the more the talks [01:11:09] progress, the motivation of the other [01:11:12] side, of Hezbollah and Iran - Iran is pushing for this - is [01:11:15] to thwart the agreement by dragging Israel into war. [01:11:19] And how does Israel respond? Militarily, is the IDF's response that you've seen so [01:11:23] far the appropriate and adequate response to what [01:11:25] happened? So, look, that's the central [01:11:28] question, because look, there are [01:11:31] two things Israel needs to adopt, two conclusions [01:11:35] Israel needs to adopt. One, you can't drag out [01:11:39] the agreement, you have to go with it all the way decisively. Otherwise [01:11:43] you're giving a very big prize, actually, to Hezbollah, [01:11:47] if the agreement is canceled or the process is canceled or stopped, that's [01:11:51] a big prize for Hezbollah and Iran. [01:11:53] On the other hand, you have to start [01:11:56] changing the situation on the ground, meaning pushing the Lebanese [01:12:00] army to do more. And therefore, I think that [01:12:03] in parallel, first of all, we need to quickly finalize the agreement, not [01:12:07] to delay. The problem currently, the bone of contention, is [01:12:11] the monitoring mechanism. So we need to decide on it. It's not something [01:12:14] that if we stall for time, some solution [01:12:18] will be found. But one thing is certain, in order [01:12:21] to finalize the agreement, the demand is [01:12:24] from Lebanon and perhaps also the United States, [01:12:27] that the response will be more moderate. So [01:12:31] I agree with that. I think that you can't not respond, [01:12:34] on the other hand, you have to be very [01:12:36] surgical and hit Hezbollah [01:12:40] and less the civilian population. Because then you [01:12:43] are actually punishing or harming the Lebanese government, [01:12:46] and here we need to act very [01:12:50] measuredly. That is, you are calling not to escalate the response. [01:12:54] Definitely not to escalate the response, but on the other hand, it also needs to be clear to the Lebanese [01:12:57] government that this is not some new status quo that is convenient for them, because [01:13:01] we also need to exert some leverage on them, such as not advancing the [01:13:05] economic aid they expect and so on and so forth. That is, they should understand [01:13:09] that not all the time is in their hands. [01:13:12] So when reports speak of the IDF demanding a powerful attack in Lebanon [01:13:15] and the political echelon blocked it, then [01:13:18] in your opinion, Major General (res.) Israel, is the political echelon [01:13:22] here? Yes, because this [01:13:25] already belongs more to the image and internal politics [01:13:28] of but will not complete [01:13:32] threatens more. And I think that in this case, it's really [01:13:35] the wrong direction. We need to be much more [01:13:39] focused here and give this strategic [01:13:42] agreement a chance to succeed. So, interestingly enough, let's talk [01:13:45] about Iran. The agreement forming between Oman [01:13:48] and Iran might remove the issue of closing the Strait of Hormuz from the agenda [01:13:52] and allow negotiations on the nuclear program. We've seen this before. [01:13:55] This is not we are not out of that movie yet, it's [01:13:58] a series. The problem here is, look, [01:14:02] the separation between Hormuz and the nuclear program is not [01:14:05] good, it reduces leverage, because let's assume [01:14:09] that this move regarding Hormuz succeeds, there is still a dispute over [01:14:13] control, this idea of creating a square [01:14:17] where ships entering pass [01:14:19] close to the Iranian coast so that they can even with rifles [01:14:23] shoot at them and then send them back out on the other [01:14:27] side, is in my opinion a very bad idea. It gives strength [01:14:31] to the Iranians, because at any given moment, if the Revolutionary Guard [01:14:34] feels like it, they can overturn the agreement. On the other hand, if it [01:14:37] works, the Americans won't want to [01:14:41] overturn the agreement to pressure on the nuclear program. You lose a nuclear [01:14:45] leverage, the most important leverage that Hormuz also puts pressure on [01:14:47] the Iranians. Therefore, my heart is not [01:14:51] so happy and joyful about this Hormuz agreement. I'm very [01:14:55] concerned that the nuclear issue will be pushed aside and we won't see [01:14:59] it anytime soon, if at all. So what kind of period are we heading into regarding [01:15:03] Iran, when the IDF is highly alert and President Trump changes [01:15:06] his mind every moment? At the beginning of the week, last weekend, we were really [01:15:10] on high alert. A second later, Trump again [01:15:14] gives an opportunity for negotiations. How long can the IDF [01:15:17] maintain such alertness? [01:15:20] First of all, it must be said that there is [01:15:24] an unreasonable [01:15:25] attrition [01:15:28] in maintaining readiness, where indeed [01:15:32] people, entire families, truly have no [01:15:35] life. This is, I meet these friends, these [01:15:38] pilots, compared to other entities [01:15:41] altogether. The country is not breathing because they are constantly jumping [01:15:45] and waiting to run to Iran. We need leadership here that will calm things down. [01:15:49] We can also tell the Americans, I don't think they even want us involved, that's [01:15:52] a fact. But even if so, give us [01:15:56] a week, it's not something that is so urgent right now that the IDF needs [01:15:59] to be constantly [01:16:02] open canopies and the entire state of Israel [01:16:05] holding its breath, not going on vacations, not anything. We need to calm things down. [01:16:09] The second thing is, look, Israel, on the other hand, needs to look [01:16:13] soberly at the fact that it might be that the responsibility for overseeing [01:16:16] the nuclear program and for the response will be ours as Americans. At some point, [01:16:20] they will get tired. Yes, Israel, I want to conclude by talking to you for one more minute about another [01:16:23] open front. The front of Gaza [01:16:27] and Hamas and the road [01:16:29] map of Trump's peace council with the possibility of Hamas disarming. [01:16:33] I want to describe [01:16:37] to you and our listeners a cartoon from recent testimonies [01:16:40] from today. We see two Hamas members, two Hamasniks in front of lockers, [01:16:44] yes, cells where weapons are stored, and one [01:16:48] Hamasnik asks the other, "Do you remember the code to open [01:16:51] it?" And the second Hamasnik says, "7 10 20." [01:17:00] Is this what's happening? Did Hamas really disarm? Does [01:17:04] this seem plausible to you? There are two [01:17:07] very, very serious [01:17:10] problems. One is that he is not really disarming. He is indeed storing, and storage is [01:17:14] not disarmament. This is unequivocally clear. And the second [01:17:17] thing is that there is no real [01:17:20] mechanism here that guarantees this. On the contrary, the mechanism in question [01:17:25] has very little chance of success, first because an international [01:17:29] force will not do the job there. This is a type of [01:17:32] UNIFIL repeating itself with different letters. And the second [01:17:36] thing is this whole idea of a technocratic government. [01:17:39] This is a bad joke, [01:17:43] because who would give them authority? What power do they have [01:17:47] Hezbollah has no problem putting on this show because [01:17:50] he knows it's nothing, and he does a 'poof' and kicks them [01:17:54] out. And also, the public there will not trust someone who is temporary and needs [01:17:58] to go somewhere in two or three years. [01:18:01] And therefore, this is a cluster, this is a kind of mask. [01:18:05] There's no real thing there. The thing [01:18:37] that IDF forces operating in southern Lebanon are also forced to chase [01:18:41] Israelis who again and again cross into [01:18:45] Lebanese territory. Yesterday, a group of boys and girls crossed the border [01:18:48] to settle beyond the enemy [01:18:51] line. Rubi Amar, our correspondent, continues to report on [01:18:54] this phenomenon. While the IDF is looking into Lebanon, it was forced yesterday [01:18:58] to deal once again with activists of the movement calling itself [01:19:02] 'Ori Tzafon' who infiltrated Lebanon. This happened yesterday afternoon [01:19:05] during a high alert while the IDF was attacking in Lebanon after [01:19:09] a severe violation of the ceasefire by Hezbollah. Dozens of teenagers [01:19:13] crossed the border in the village of Rajar into Lebanon. IDF forces [01:19:16] chased them for several hours. This is what some [01:19:20] girls sounded like in a video they circulated from within Lebanon. We are here [01:19:23] in Lebanon near Hezbollah, sending a message to all the Sunni people of Israel [01:19:27] and to the Hezbollah organization. You harmed us, you went to war with us. We will retaliate [01:19:30] against you, we will defeat you, and we will take back the land you took from us, which is ours, and we will settle [01:19:34] it, and we will return here after the war, and with God's help, we will be victorious here. [01:19:38] In Israeli territory, supporters gathered and confronted police officers who tried [01:19:42] to distance them from the [01:19:43] border. [01:19:50] This illegal activity, which troubles IDF forces who are supposed [01:19:54] to protect the security of Israeli residents, is part of a larger wave. [01:19:57] In recent weeks, we have been reporting almost daily on the crossing of the border [01:20:01] into Syria by activists of the movement calling itself "Pioneers [01:20:05] of the Bashan." They too are calling to settle the areas beyond [01:20:08] the border, while ignoring the law. Security forces [01:20:11] are struggling to stop the phenomenon, and law enforcement, or the teeth of [01:20:14] the law, are hardly implemented. There are no indictments [01:20:18] and very few arrests of [01:20:21] the offenders. Yes, 7:24, and the [01:20:24] upcoming report also fits the definition of lawlessness. [01:20:28] Again and again, murder in Arab society, this happened in the last hour. Orly Alcalay, [01:20:31] our correspondent, with the first details. Hello Orly, yes, hello [01:20:35] Ran, this is happening in the town of Mqably Shvut. Large [01:20:49] police forces are at the murder scene and have opened an investigation. 12 hours, two murdered. Last night, [01:20:55] Ziad Bashar, 57 [01:20:59] years old, a resident of Tayibe, was murdered, allegedly as part [01:21:02] of a blood feud. Unknown individuals called him to come to the school [01:21:06] yard, and there they opened fire and shot [01:21:09] him. A year after his wife was murdered, [01:21:13] he said, "I'll be next." And when she was murdered, he said: [01:21:16] "I'll be next." He probably knew what he was talking about. [01:21:20] 160 murders in Arab society since the beginning [01:21:23] of the year. This is what we are talking about when they probably say [01:21:27] governance, yes, governance that does not exist. Thank you Orly, [01:21:30] thank you. [01:21:37] Now, a little over 8 days before October 27th, [01:21:41] election day, the minister, ambassador [01:21:44] and former Likud senior figure, Gila Gamliel will officially launch her new party [01:21:48] tonight. Alongside her, as number two, Yuli [01:21:51] Edelstein, also a former Likud senior figure. Yaara Shapira, our political [01:21:55] correspondent, has the details. Hello Yaara, yes Ran, [01:21:58] finally, after quite a few delays, Erdan will officially launch [01:22:02] his party tonight. Delays, by the way, stemming from both technical reasons and [01:22:05] substantive reasons of listing the list and adding women. [01:22:09] The only ones who will be there are Gilad Erdan and his number two, Yuli [01:22:13] Edelstein, who will talk [01:22:15] about the need for a liberal [01:22:18] right-wing party, they will present themselves as a party that is indeed right-wing [01:22:22] 61 [01:22:24] for Netanyahu, and will also advocate for equality of burden, which [01:22:28] explains who they don't want in Netanyahu's coalition, the [01:22:31] Haredim, they don't want them and will likely seek to include [01:22:35] parties from the other bloc. This is [01:22:38] more or less Erdan and Edelstein's platform. They have [01:22:41] other people on the list who are already committed [01:22:45] to them, such as Aliza Bloch and Chezi Nachama. But I assume they want [01:22:49] to keep the suspense, and therefore tonight only Erdan [01:22:52] and Edelstein will be present, and in the coming [01:22:56] days, the other members will join. They are also in talks with [01:23:00] other figures. And so, tonight, another [01:23:04] party will be formed in the range of the blocs. [01:23:07] Yes, it's a bit hard to count. Thank you very much, Yaara [01:23:10] Shapira. We will now say hello to MK Naama Lazimi [01:23:14] from the Democrats party. Hello. [01:23:16] Hello. First of all, I must express my condolences. [01:23:20] Two fallen soldiers this morning. A difficult [01:23:23] morning indeed. How do you think we should act now in Lebanon? Deepen our [01:23:26] presence there, or perhaps withdraw and let the Lebanese army act? What [01:23:30] is your position? Look, ultimately, we need to create a settlement, but a real [01:23:34] settlement, not a temporary settlement, and not a settlement that [01:23:37] does not allow for any decision or any resolution. Netanyahu [01:23:40] is incapable of doing this, and therefore [01:23:43] the reality is still bloody and difficult. The residents of the north deserve [01:23:47] peace, and all citizens of the country deserve [01:23:50] a settlement that will allow for genuine security. This is not happening [01:23:54] right now. A settlement with the Lebanese government is the solution. The presence of IDF [01:23:57] forces, large IDF forces today in southern Lebanon, is an essential [01:24:01] presence. First of all, it seems [01:24:03] that in the near future, there will be an IDF presence. But [01:24:07] this bloody reality that does not allow for anything, neither here nor there, [01:24:11] for such a long time, this is not the way to live, neither for the residents of [01:24:15] Lebanon, nor for the residents of [01:24:18] Israel. We all see what is happening. Here, the Lebanese government wants [01:24:21] an agreement with Israel. Israel is dragging its feet. [01:24:25] The reality with Hezbollah is not a reality of defeat. This is not [01:24:29] how you manage a normal [01:24:31] reality. And also, [01:24:35] we also deserve to know that there [01:24:37] is a government that takes responsibility and understands that we need to close [01:24:41] fronts and not leave them all open for a permanent [01:24:44] state of emergency. Netanyahu will not do [01:24:47] this, and you need to do it. The question, [01:24:50] Naama. What part will you have in the Democrats party [01:24:54] if you form the next coalition? What involvement will you have in security matters, because [01:24:58] your party chairman, Yair Golan, is a former Deputy Chief of Staff. He [01:25:02] wants the defense portfolio, but the other partners, how shall we put it delicately, are hesitant about [01:25:06] this idea. They are taking it off the table. Listen, [01:25:08] the other partners will sit with us at the negotiating [01:25:12] table, and ultimately everything depends on mandates. What worries [01:25:16] me much more than the distribution of portfolios, I want to say, [01:25:19] is proxy parties like the party that Yaara Shapira [01:25:23] reported on a moment ago, buffer parties for [01:25:25] Netanyahu. When Netanyahu loses elections, he forms [01:25:29] buffer parties, parties that complete his 61, even if they [01:25:33] say they won't complete him. I [01:25:36] remind you that ultimately, parties of former Likud members [01:25:39] proved themselves to be Netanyahu's most loyal parties. [01:25:42] See Gideon Sa'ar [01:25:45] now. And I call on the Israeli [01:25:47] public not to be dazzled by all the press conferences. [01:25:51] Meanwhile, the electoral threshold also shows that they are not dazzled, but nonetheless, [01:25:55] to understand that in the end, only those committed to democratic [01:25:58] Israel and to the decisions that need to be made [01:26:02] will do what needs to be done. But on what basis do you say they will return [01:26:05] to Netanyahu? Based on the political reality [01:26:09] that has always existed. Ultimately, [01:26:12] these are former Likud members. Ultimately, [01:26:15] a party that has direct [01:26:17] responsibility for [01:26:20] our current reality, whether it's the governmental coup or [01:26:23] October 7th. Even Yuli Edelstein was not [01:26:27] there for a state inquiry commission, and I [01:26:30] remind you that he also dragged his feet in a very deliberate [01:26:32] manner [01:26:35] regarding the enlistment law. The fact that he is more [01:26:38] enthusiastic about evasion than Yuli Edelstein [01:26:42] does not erase the fact that during wartime, he dragged his feet [01:26:45] in the Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee. So I don't buy these [01:26:48] things. He moved [01:26:51] from the Likud to Yisrael Beiteinu, which is part of the change bloc, [01:26:55] your bloc. Is he a legitimate partner [01:26:57] for you, Danilo? Lieberman is, of course, a legitimate partner. I [01:27:01] don't understand this connection. I don't [01:27:04] understand this connection. We want people who do not support [01:27:07] a regime coup, who support a state inquiry [01:27:10] commission, and who are [01:27:13] there for the day after to take the responsibility the country needs. The [01:27:17] fact that after four years he voted against the law of the "empty" I... That doesn't impress [01:27:20] me. The country deserves much more. Better than that. I understand that I am probably [01:27:24] saying something that is strange to some of our partners, but I [01:27:28] think that after four such difficult years, we deserve [01:27:32] people whom we know exactly for whom [01:27:35] they exist and that together we can fix and rebuild [01:27:38] anew. There are also ideological gaps, and that's okay, but this country has [01:27:42] decisions that we are obliged to implement and make. Let's [01:27:46] talk about the High Court's decision yesterday. High Court Justice [01:27:49] El Two. Receives partly your petition. More [01:27:53] correctly, issues an order to show cause that freezes all the money transfers [01:27:56] that were in the Finance and patiently. A short break [01:27:59] the day before yesterday. [01:28:01] So, from a principled, constitutional point of view, MK Lazimi, as a legislator, [01:28:05] as an MK, does it seem proper and correct to you that one judge [01:28:08] would cancel decisions made by members of the Knesset? [01:28:12] First of all, it is not proper or correct to hold an unlawful and illegal discussion. [01:28:15] What is happening here is that we, why is it not correct? The Knesset's legal advisor [01:28:18] determined that according to the regulations and according to the Knesset Committee's decision, the Speaker [01:28:22] of the Knesset is authorized to allow sessions to be held during the recess [01:28:26] with the approval of the Agreements Committee, and if there are no agreements, then the Speaker [01:28:29] of the Knesset can, in special cases, order a discussion even without it. [01:28:47] of the Knesset, I will just say, this was not said this week, it was said four [01:28:51] years ago in the previous [01:28:53] Knesset, six days before the previous elections, you were a Member [01:28:57] of Knesset in the coalition, a Member of the Finance Committee, you did exactly [01:29:00] the same thing, copy-paste. Only then the procedure bothered [01:29:04] you less. Absolutely not what you are saying here, I want [01:29:08] to remind you exactly of the reality that existed at the time, a year after [01:29:11] a budget passed, just for things that are [01:29:15] completely not sectarian, sectoral, [01:29:18] encouraging draft dodging. Is this also okay? I want to tell you that this [01:29:22] is also not really okay, I have no intention of defending such a thing, but [01:29:26] do not compare what was done here, election bribery [01:29:28] from the highest level, the day before yesterday, election bribery. [01:29:32] The Ministry of Religious Services 80 million, Strzok's Ministry [01:29:36] 250 million, the Ministry of Education close to 900 [01:29:40] million for religious and Haredi education. The judge did not say what is allowed and what is not allowed, [01:29:43] he spoke about the procedure, and you did exactly the same procedure six [01:29:47] days before the elections. He said to include what [01:29:50] was passed, some of what was passed is now in legal [01:29:54] proceedings. Yes, we are fighting against [01:29:57] the budgets for shirking, right? [01:30:00] Budgets encouraging draft dodging 47 million [01:30:03] for youth and yeshiva students who might drop out [01:30:07] of yeshiva and enlist. Why [01:30:09] fund this? Now during elections? And also, tell me, didn't Netanyahu [01:30:13] say a week ago that he wants to recruit? So I don't [01:30:16] understand, if he wants to recruit, why is he transferring tens of millions to keep [01:30:20] yeshiva students from, God forbid, going there? Let's end [01:30:23] with this question mark. Member of Knesset Naama wants [01:30:27] to say, [01:30:29] one must distinguish between things that are perhaps necessary. [01:30:36] What happened the day before yesterday is exactly that, and we will stand guard. Member [01:30:40] of Knesset Naama Zim from the Democrats party, thank you very much, thank you very much. [01:30:44] 7:35 time to hear what's happening outside. [01:30:47] Traffic reports sponsored by Frisbee, offering up to 40% [01:30:51] off a variety of used Frisbee vehicles. For details, call [01:30:55] *6020 subject to the terms and conditions on the [01:30:57] Frisbee website. The northern Ayalon is clear [01:31:00] from the Dov Hoz Interchange. [01:31:04] Southward, traffic is flowing, and also these are news updates. Drive carefully [01:31:07] after which, among other things, more details [01:31:11] about the 'Shadow' case. We'll be [01:31:13] back soon. [01:31:15] We [01:31:20] want to say hello now to Tomer [01:31:22] Marciano, the cousin of Sergeant First Class (res.) [01:31:26] Tamir Vaknin, 33 years old from Eilat. [01:31:29] Hello, Tomer. Hello, thank you very much for [01:31:32] speaking with us, and we also share your sorrow. We spoke [01:31:36] earlier with a childhood friend of Major (res.) Harel Biranstock. [01:31:40] You are Tamir Vaknin's cousin. [01:31:43] A very difficult morning, very difficult. Please tell us [01:31:46] so we can get to know him a bit. [01:31:50] Yes, we are still up from yesterday [01:31:54] trying to digest this unbelievable news. [01:31:57] Uh, we are cousins, but in our family, [01:32:01] we all grew up like siblings. [01:32:03] Tamir is like my younger brother. [01:32:07] He grew up in our house and we in his [01:32:10] house. Uh, Tamir is [01:32:13] the funniest person in our group of cousins, [01:32:17] the wittiest, with that cynicism [01:32:20] that always knew how to come at the right time. A happy [01:32:23] person, full of life. I think [01:32:27] I sat from about 2 AM until just 15 minutes ago [01:32:30] and read our WhatsApp messages. In the last three years, all our messages [01:32:34] are "are you coming in? Are you leaving? When are you coming in? [01:32:38] Where are you going?" For three consecutive years, [01:32:40] he was at the forefront of the front. He started [01:32:43] in Lebanon and went down to Gaza and returned to Lebanon [01:32:46] and Syria and again [01:32:48] to Lebanon. [01:32:51] Uh, he didn't stop for a moment and didn't give up on being first, [01:32:54] just like what happened in this case. [01:32:58] Uh I [01:33:01] there's no, there's really no way to describe how big his heart is [01:33:05] and how much he is the definition of a king [01:33:07] of the land. [01:33:10] Tell us, Tomer, about his life, [01:33:13] Tamir's life, when he wasn't in the army, during the time he wasn't [01:33:17] on reserve duty. In the last three years, he worked [01:33:21] at a cyber company. [01:33:25] I had a conversation with their HR manager last night, [01:33:28] and they were in shock. [01:33:32] Totally. Tamir wasn't present much in the last three [01:33:36] years, but he made a very serious impact on the people [01:33:40] he [01:33:43] worked with and touched. [01:33:45] Uh, [01:33:48] he lived in Tel Aviv, with his mother, [01:33:52] for a period of time. In the last few years, he's been outside the city [01:33:55] of Eilat. [01:33:57] And Eilat is always home, and it's always such an anchor point that we all always [01:34:01] go and come from. [01:34:04] Tamir is simply a person who loves to live life, a funny person, [01:34:08] easygoing, very, very, very easygoing, takes [01:34:11] everything in good vibes. [01:34:16] I really [01:34:20] don't have much left to say. I feel inside that [01:34:23] it doesn't matter what words come out of my mouth, it can't describe how big [01:34:27] this thing is. It's mainly how unbelievable it is for any of us. [01:34:31] When did you receive this difficult [01:34:33] news? A small detail, [01:34:37] when they entered the restaurant where [01:34:40] my aunt works, the employees [01:34:43] announced it outside, and I [01:34:46] heard the announcement through friends. I received it, I heard the announcement [01:34:50] on a friends' WhatsApp group, and I realized it was my aunt, and immediately [01:34:53] we all [01:34:54] went there as a family. [01:34:58] Afterwards, everyone received [01:35:00] the message. [01:35:02] His mother and brother received the message in Tel Aviv. Another brother received the message here [01:35:06] in Eilat with [01:35:07] the father. [01:35:11] That's it, and we, the whole family, are together. [01:35:16] From that moment on, [01:35:19] and there are no words that can comfort. Just sending you a big, [01:35:23] strengthening hug. Tomer Marciano, cousin of Staff Sergeant (Res.) [01:35:26] Tamir Vaknin, may his memory be a blessing. Thank you very much for talking [01:35:30] to us. Thank you very much. In this incident, in the explosion [01:35:33] of the booby-trapped building yesterday in southern Lebanon, Major (res.) Harel Biranstock [01:35:37] was killed. May his memory [01:35:41] be blessed. [01:35:48] This morning, here are the news on Reshet B. 28. [01:35:51] Let's take a short break. We'll be right back. [01:35:54] Traffic reports sponsored by Frisbee, offering up to [01:35:57] 40% off a variety of used Frisbee vehicles. For details, [01:36:01] call *6020 subject to the terms on the Frisbee [01:36:04] website. We'll be right back [01:36:07] with Ran Ben Yemini. [01:36:10] Here is the news on Reshet B. All that [01:36:14] was to tell about Khamenei, [01:36:17] enemies, Saturday night, [01:39:27] This morning, now to the case that casts a shadow of suspicion [01:39:31] on singer Yoav Eliasi, whom Ben Gvir appointed as commander of an emergency response [01:39:34] team in Tel Aviv. Eliasi, "The Shadow," is suspected of exploiting his connections [01:39:38] with police officers from the district to facilitate concessions for a club in which he is a partner. [01:39:42] And yesterday, he was interrogated by Machash, along with three other police officers. Our reporter, [01:39:46] Andas Greenberg, has new details from the investigation and also brings, for the first time, [01:39:49] the version of one of the suspected police officers. Yesterday, singer Yoav [01:39:53] Eliasi, known as "The Shadow," and three police officers from the Tel [01:39:57] Aviv district were interrogated by Machash. They are suspected of breach of trust. [01:40:00] They were interrogated for about five hours, and at the end of the interrogation, [01:40:04] it was decided to remove the officers for three days from police facilities and Eliasi [01:40:07] for a week. We are now publishing for the first time the version of [01:40:11] one of the suspected police officers. When the investigators accused [01:40:14] him of influencing the hearing held for the club belonging to The Shadow's [01:40:18] brother, in the conversation he had with another [01:40:22] officer in the district, that officer replied to them as follows: [01:40:24] "I didn't speak to him, I didn't interfere in any action for the club. [01:40:28] I cannot interfere in my role, and I have no connection to this club. [01:40:32] I also don't know all its owners." Last night we reported for the first time [01:40:36] that The Shadow was summoned this morning for a hearing at the police, at the end of which [01:40:39] it will be decided whether he will permanently end his role in the police as commander [01:40:43] of an emergency response team of the Tel Aviv district. The hearing will be held before [01:40:46] a district volunteer officer who will hear The Shadow's [01:40:49] version, and at the end will forward her recommendation to the district commander [01:40:53] regarding him. Regarding The Shadow, the investigators asked him yesterday during [01:40:56] the interrogation: "Did you ask that your brother's club not be closed?" [01:40:59] "Did you contact the station commander?" and he replied, "No." [01:41:03] And then he was asked, "Who were the higher-ups you contacted?" The Shadow [01:41:07] replied that the only contact he made was to find out who [01:41:10] to talk to about the hearing held for his brother's [01:41:13] club. When he was asked if he went out with [01:41:16] police officers to party at his brother's club, he [01:41:20] replied: "I didn't party with police officers. Police officers come [01:41:23] to party at my brother's club regardless of me." Today, [01:41:26] as mentioned, is the hearing for The Shadow at the police, [01:41:30] which is expected to signal the known singer's departure, [01:41:33] who is close to Ben Gvir. With us on the line is [01:41:36] Yoav Eliasi's lawyer, Attorney Ariel Atri. Hello, [01:41:40] Ariel. Good morning. What does The Shadow intend to say [01:41:42] at the hearing? Tell the truth. I must note [01:41:46] that I don't know the religion that likes the information according to which this is supposed [01:41:49] to signal his departure, but the Israel Police definitely wanted [01:41:53] from the first moment to know what [01:41:57] The Shadow's version is. And today [01:42:00] he intends, today he and I intend to be there and tell the full [01:42:04] story. There is nothing to hide in this story. There's just a small problem, [01:42:07] and these are recordings in Eliasi's voice and correspondence in the Haaretz [01:42:11] newspaper from which it appears that he used police connections after [01:42:15] violent calls in the complex where he was a partner, right? Ran, I believe, I [01:42:19] need to understand why you believe the media. What [01:42:21] to do? He says in a voice message, "I'm [01:42:25] educating them there in the police. That you can't touch this club." What [01:42:29] do you understand? Let's make a distinction and let's [01:42:31] be precise. There is no [01:42:34] offense in boastful and arrogant words. [01:42:38] Okay? Those conversations were private [01:42:40] conversations or private correspondences with [01:42:43] a person who was a friend like a brother in every sense, okay? And that friend [01:42:47] would turn to him, "Please, come and help me with this, help me with this." [01:42:50] And Eliasi had two ways, one way to tell him: "I'm not willing to help you, [01:42:54] get out of my sight," but you don't talk like that to someone who is... such a friend. [01:42:58] Therefore, what he did was say, "I'll try to brush him off," and how [01:43:01] do you brush off? "Yes, I will, I will definitely [01:43:05] do it. Oh, of course, I did it thanks to me." Wait, I don't understand, who [01:43:08] asked whom? The Shadow from the officer or the officer from The Shadow? [01:43:12] No, what's happening is that The Shadow boasted, [01:43:15] he bragged, but in practice, he did nothing. And this [01:43:19] is the significant thing he says. Menashe, one of the officers, is a friend like a brother. I'll talk [01:43:23] to him now. Yes, what do you understand from that? I understand from that [01:43:26] that he... [01:43:39] I have no doubt that this is what he said. Everyone who was interrogated in this case will say [01:43:42] the same thing. He didn't turn to anyone and didn't ask anyone for help, [01:43:46] and that's what actually happened. This club was closed more [01:43:50] than other clubs in the same area. So to come and say that he [01:43:53] came and received a favor, that's the furthest thing from it. [01:43:57] Even if you read the article carefully, you will see that nowhere does it state [01:44:01] that he received a benefit. All that is presented there are those boastful [01:44:04] words that he came and said to the person who was [01:44:08] at that time a person. Between [01:44:15] that person and The Shadow's brother, and therefore [01:44:19] he came and decided to come and harm [01:44:20] him. [01:44:23] Did The Shadow hand over his phone to the police? [01:44:27] No, I told the police officers all the correspondence there, you need [01:44:30] to understand, I also wouldn't want to hand it over and you wouldn't want to hand over the phone. [01:44:34] All the correspondence that exists, they can get it from other interrogations. We [01:44:38] are not willing to hand over the phone, for the simple reason that a phone that goes [01:44:42] to Machash doesn't come back, and when the center of life is managed there, [01:44:45] then there's no reason to come and hand it over. In fact, they took the phone and there's [01:44:49] no problem, there's no problem. They won't find anything, they won't find [01:44:53] exactly what I said, because if I understand, and you are a [01:44:56] lawyer, in terms of words, you are much better than me, and an experienced [01:44:59] lawyer, but if I understand your defense line correctly, you [01:45:03] are saying he only boasted. The police, for [01:45:06] the police, need more evidence than that, and they don't have it. [01:45:10] This is not a defense line, this is [01:45:11] reality. [01:45:16] The reality is, that's what they found, there was no construction, in fact, [01:45:19] in fact, even in those cases, say [01:45:22] that those boastful words were said, the club [01:45:26] was closed, and he intends to continue being a member of the emergency response team, to serve [01:45:29] in the police, definitely, definitely, he aspires to return there and continue commanding [01:45:33] this wonderful unit, and bring security to the residents of Tel [01:45:37] Aviv and Israel. Attorney, of The Shadow, thank you very much. Good [01:45:41] morning to you and the listeners. Good morning, Attorney [01:45:44] Atri. 10 minutes to the traffic forecast. Traffic [01:45:48] reports sponsored by Pri Ha'Aviv, presenting G [01:45:51] 100% Vitamin C in just one [01:45:54] fruit. [01:45:56] You love Pri Ha'Aviv. [01:45:58] The [01:46:01] northern Ayalon is clear from the Dov Hoz interchange to Guardya. Southbound, as mentioned, traffic [01:46:05] is flowing. Drive carefully and patiently. A short break and after that, [01:46:09] sports. We'll be right back. Traffic reports sponsored by Pri Ha'Aviv, [01:46:13] presenting Ki Sung-gold, sweet, juicy, and full [01:46:16] of nutritional value. Because he is a person you [01:46:19] love, Pri [01:46:21] Ha'Aviv. We'll be right back [01:46:25] with Ran Benyemini. [01:46:28] Here is the news on Reshet B. Tomorrow, [01:51:49] to eight. We are concluding "This Morning" Thursday's edition. Written [01:51:52] and produced by Ofel Hiyut and Rahel Levy. Edited by Yossi Tanuri. I am [01:51:56] Ran Benyemini. Immediately after us, Gili Cohen and Chen [01:51:59] Liberman. Have a good, quiet and safe [01:52:03] day. Thank you for listening. Goodbye. [01:56:16] Hello everyone, and good morning. It's eight o'clock now. We have a news [01:56:18] update. This morning it was allowed to be published that in southern [01:56:21] Lebanon, two IDF soldiers from the Paratroopers Brigade 55 were killed yesterday. [01:56:25] Major (res.) Harel Biranstock, commander of a company in Battalion [01:56:29] 2855, Spearhead Formation, 34 years old. [01:56:32] And Staff Sergeant (res.) Tamir Vaknin, 33 [01:56:35] years old from Eilat. Notice was given to the families. May [01:56:39] their memory be a blessing. In the same incident, four reserve soldiers [01:56:42] were seriously injured. The incident occurred yesterday [01:56:46] around 12 noon in the village of Majdal Zoun [01:56:50] within the Israeli security zone. Reserve [01:56:53] paratroopers were securing engineering works and entered [01:56:56] the area.