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[00:00:00] Kan's new summer 11
[00:00:02] soon. Okay, Kave, what's that called, lessons,
[00:00:19] hello and good morning. Now, we're with the news
[00:00:22] update. The funeral dates of two IDF soldiers
[00:00:26] who fell yesterday in a bomb explosion in southern Lebanon were published. Major in the
[00:00:34] Spearhead formation, 34 years old, from Nukedim
[00:00:37] Yuval Noach, at 12:00 PM at the military cemetery
[00:00:40] in Arcel. Staff Sergeant (res.) Tamir Vaknin,
[00:00:44] also a combat soldier in Battalion 2855, Spearhead
[00:00:47] formation, 33 years old, from Eilat, Yuval with
[00:00:51] Noach, at 7:20 PM tonight at the military
[00:00:54] cemetery in Eilat. May their memory be blessed.
[00:00:58] In the incident where Harel and Tamir fell, four reserve
[00:01:01] soldiers were seriously injured. The incident occurred yesterday at around
[00:01:05] 12:00 PM in the village of Machdalzun, which is located inside
[00:01:09] the Israeli security strip. Reserve
[00:01:12] paratroopers, guarding engineering works, entered a building
[00:01:16] that turned out to be booby-trapped and were hit
[00:01:18] by a bomb explosion. The IDF has controlled the area where the incident
[00:01:22] occurred for a long time, and the army says that Hezbollah violated
[00:01:25] the agreements on the ceasefire, although it is not clear when the bomb was placed.
[00:01:29] המטען.
[00:01:31] The body of a missing person was found this morning in the area of Miklaf Yarkon during
[00:01:35] the search for the missing Eldar Dean Dayan, a 23-year-old resident of Dimona,
[00:01:39] was last seen in the Petach Tikva area 19
[00:01:42] days ago. Adas Greenberg, our reporter, joins us now.
[00:01:45] The police are not saying that it is Dayan. What are they saying
[00:01:48] now? Right. First of all, we need to be very careful.
[00:01:52] Yonatan, they still don't know whose body was found here
[00:01:55] in the area, at the scene near Petach Tikva. There were searches
[00:01:59] this morning. It's a difficult scene. Yes, a body
[00:02:02] in an advanced state of decomposition. The findings were collected just a few
[00:02:05] moments ago. They finished the work here at the scene,
[00:02:08] and as mentioned, the body is being sent to the Institute for Forensic Medicine
[00:02:11] in Abu Kabir to perform the identification
[00:02:15] of the body. Eldar Dean's mother is here
[00:02:18] and arrived at the scene after she saw the morning searches, and the family was not
[00:02:22] informed by the police that there was any body found in the Petach
[00:02:26] Tikva area. She screamed at the police officers
[00:02:29] when she was asked to enter the scene.
[00:02:33] She screamed at the police officers, telling them, "Give me my child."
[00:02:36] The family is still
[00:02:39] gathered here, as you can understand, in a very difficult and sensitive situation
[00:02:43] they are in. We have been without him for over two and a half
[00:02:47] weeks, missing. The bottom line is that at the moment,
[00:02:49] the operations at the scene
[00:02:53] have ended, and when the identity of
[00:02:56] that body is known, we will, of course,
[00:03:01] it's the second murder in the Arab community within
[00:03:04] 12 hours.
[00:03:07] In Muqibileh, Aiman Gama, 20 years old, was murdered.
[00:03:10] An unknown assailant shot him at his doorstep, apparently
[00:03:13] due to an ongoing conflict between families in the village
[00:03:17] of Emek Yizrael. Last night, Abu Bazid
[00:03:20] from Sarah, a 57-year-old resident of Tira, was shot to death
[00:03:24] in his car. His wife was murdered about a year ago.
[00:03:27] Since the beginning of the year, 160 people in the Arab
[00:03:31] community have been murdered. Now to the zigzag of the Ministry
[00:03:34] of Education, where it was discovered that millions of shekels transferred to daycare centers in the ultra-Orthodox
[00:03:38] sector did not reach the people. After the discovery,
[00:03:41] the Ministry decided to deduct the budgets, but now
[00:03:44] they are retracting. Liran Khodinoff, our education correspondent,
[00:03:48] is here with the details. Hello, Yonatan. Two years ago,
[00:03:51] during your audit, the Ministry of Education discovered that dozens of supervised ultra-Orthodox
[00:03:55] daycare centers did not pay the retention grant that the state
[00:03:58] gave them. And the money apparently went
[00:04:02] to the daycare center's coffers. The state is now demanding to deduct millions
[00:04:06] of shekels from those daycare centers that did not pay their assistants, but the Director General
[00:04:09] of the Ministry of Education, Meir Shimoni, is now asking the state
[00:04:13] to waive the fees for those ultra-Orthodox daycare centers due to fears
[00:04:16] that they will collapse. The early childhood sector is already collapsing, and ironically,
[00:04:20] daycare centers that did pay the money, like WIZO and Na'amat
[00:04:23] and Emunah, are not in the picture because they did pay
[00:04:26] their assistants. So what are they saying about this at the Ministry of Education?
[00:04:38] Thank you, Liran.
[00:04:41] And that's it, that's our news update for this hour. Now, with Yigal Goota
[00:04:44] and Sharon Dudovich, here's the news on Channel B'. Our next update
[00:04:48] is at 11
[00:06:39] Depressing because two reserve soldiers fell yesterday.
[00:06:52] We also need to remember them, because they are now starting, I don't know the extent
[00:06:55] of the injury, but whoever was seriously injured is also starting
[00:06:59] a new life in this sense. And you
[00:07:02] know,
[00:07:04] thank God, for quite a few days there hasn't been such a thing
[00:07:07] and there haven't been casualties in Lebanon.
[00:07:11] To our great sorrow.
[00:07:16] No, but to our great sorrow, we said when they talked about a peace agreement with Lebanon, we said that same
[00:07:20] day, we didn't understand that peace agreements are made with enemies or
[00:07:24] with someone you have nothing to do with. But where is the solution for
[00:07:26] Hezbollah? Nothing came out and you will see that in a short time
[00:07:30] something will emerge here, there will be no peace, just like there was never peace.
[00:07:34] And now, to our sorrow, it is attacking us
[00:07:37] again. And whoever truly lives this, and the truth
[00:07:41] is that for a few weeks, in this sense, we didn't talk to him because it was quiet,
[00:07:45] and we also enjoyed the quiet. That's our correspondent in the North,
[00:07:48] and even when we talked to him, we talked to him about the recovery of
[00:07:51] the guest houses in the North. What's happening? Are people hiking or not hiking?
[00:07:54] Right. So here we are calling him
[00:07:58] back to the flag. Good morning to our correspondent in the North, Rubi Amar
[00:08:01] Shaleg. Hello, friends. So you,
[00:08:04] geographically, live relatively
[00:08:07] far from, of course, everything in terms of the North, but relatively far
[00:08:11] from the incident that happened yesterday, because it happened in the Western Galilee,
[00:08:15] I understand, and you live
[00:08:18] much further east from there, right?
[00:08:21] And everyone who lives in the area of the confrontation line hears
[00:08:24] the explosions and the shooting. There's daily activity. Even
[00:08:28] the IDF Spokesperson issues statements about the destruction of infrastructure and
[00:08:32] attacks. These things happen on a daily basis, so it doesn't
[00:08:35] really matter. The specific incident at the end
[00:08:38] of the week was the destruction of the complex in
[00:08:42] Beaufort. Those who live in the eastern area felt it
[00:08:45] more. Yesterday, a guided missile was also fired by mistake in the Western Galilee.
[00:08:49] That is to say, there are always events, always explosions that remind
[00:08:53] us that peace has not broken out in our lives. On the other hand, we live
[00:08:56] a full routine, there are no special instructions for residents.
[00:09:00] Yesterday evening, very large events were held
[00:09:04] in Kiryat Shmona and the area.
[00:09:07] There is a long list of events throughout August in the communities along the
[00:09:10] confrontation line, in an attempt to bring in as many hikers as possible
[00:09:14] from outside. You can define this as strengthening, but for me, it's
[00:09:18] coming to enjoy the North. So there's a certain tension
[00:09:21] between explosions and fighting on one side, beyond
[00:09:25] the border, something that is heard well here, and on the other hand,
[00:09:29] an attempt to really maintain some routine of life
[00:09:31] and normalcy and sanity, as much as possible. And on the third side, every
[00:09:35] such escalation causes
[00:09:38] people to be on edge again.
[00:09:42] Yes. And I think one of the things that causes a lot
[00:09:45] of concerns is that it will, of course, affect the economy. We
[00:09:49] are in a period between seasons, a period when
[00:09:52] mainly the Haredi public goes out to hike, goes out
[00:09:55] to vacation, and this really drives the economy in the Upper
[00:09:59] Galilee and the Western Galilee. And every
[00:10:02] such news, of course, can stop the visitors
[00:10:05] from coming to vacation in these areas.
[00:10:09] Uh, you know, first of all, of course, to wish health
[00:10:13] and security to IDF soldiers, but every
[00:10:17] such thing really has an impact on many people. And you know, I have to
[00:10:20] say in one sentence, I travel a lot in other areas of the country, Tel Aviv.
[00:10:27] And it's amazing, this gap, how much they don't understand this
[00:10:30] reality. We are not in a daily war, as
[00:10:34] it was until a few weeks ago, but we receive
[00:10:37] daily reminders, and I am happy to see that in other places in the country
[00:10:40] there is no trace of it. Yes, and on the other hand, you
[00:10:44] are not really happy that we don't really understand what
[00:10:48] is happening and that we need to explain it again and again. When you meet soldiers, both
[00:10:51] reserve soldiers and regular soldiers, I imagine that they go in and out.
[00:10:55] And you try to understand from them what is happening there. What do they tell
[00:10:58] you?
[00:11:01] From what we understand, they are mainly busy
[00:11:05] with fortification. There are not too many offensive
[00:11:08] initiatives. Here and there, they go out to destroy infrastructure, which is also what
[00:11:11] happened yesterday, as I understand, in the very, very difficult incident
[00:11:15] in which two reserve soldiers fell. Most
[00:11:18] of the activity is to establish themselves in the yellow line area, to ensure
[00:11:22] that Hezbollah terrorists do not return, regroup,
[00:11:26] and in many cases, the hands of IDF soldiers are tied. And in this context,
[00:11:30] I must, it is impossible to ignore the very serious incident
[00:11:33] that happened yesterday in the area of the village of Rajar, when 15
[00:11:36] young people, mainly girls from the movement that calls
[00:11:39] itself "Ori Tzafon", at a time when the IDF is at the height of its defense
[00:11:43] and attacks in southern Lebanon, although in a slightly different sector in the area
[00:11:46] of Rajar, they decided that this was the best time to
[00:11:50] cut the border fence and cross into Lebanon
[00:11:53] to encourage Jewish return to Lebanon. And this is something
[00:11:56] that greatly occupies the IDF and the security forces. And the law enforcement
[00:12:00] system is unable to stop it, neither
[00:12:03] at the Lebanese border nor in the Golan Heights, where there is the "Pioneers of the Bashan"
[00:12:07] organization. This is a phenomenon that repeats itself. You can
[00:12:10] agree with them or not agree with them, but this activity is contrary
[00:12:14] to the law. Correct. It's important that you mentioned that. We just talked about
[00:12:17] it this morning with one of the security system officials
[00:12:21] whom we invited to speak on the program. He talked about this and about
[00:12:25] the fact that this is really, really the worst time
[00:12:28] to do such a thing. Ruby Amarsheleg, thank you very, very much.
[00:12:32] Thank you, friends. And we say good morning
[00:12:35] to Lieutenant Colonel (res.) Nadav Kaminer.
[00:12:38] Allan, good morning. Kibbutz Hanita member and security consultant,
[00:12:42] so the incident, Nadav, that happened yesterday
[00:12:45] calls? How far from
[00:12:47] you?
[00:12:50] It's indeed in the Western Galilee or in the western part of
[00:12:53] Lebanon, but it's several good kilometers
[00:12:57] away. Uh, but unfortunately, the guys
[00:13:00] who were killed were in the company that held
[00:13:04] the line in our sector until a week ago.
[00:13:06] Uh, so from here I also want to say
[00:13:10] to the families, my condolences and also recovery
[00:13:13] to the injured. A difficult
[00:13:15] incident that illustrates that we still
[00:13:19] need to do work there,
[00:13:22] and on the other hand, these guys protect the civilians.
[00:13:26] In the confrontation line. When you say "holding the line in our
[00:13:29] sector," how is that, how is that connected
[00:13:32] to you, to the residents, to the civilians? So,
[00:13:36] first of all, they are present. That is, we have an outpost that is located right
[00:13:40] above the kibbutz, and there are outposts located nearby,
[00:13:43] very close and on the way to the kibbutz.
[00:13:47] They are physically with us. You really see the forces also moving around inside
[00:13:51] the kibbutz. We also, I am a member of the emergency squad, so our security officer,
[00:13:56] we conduct joint drills with them for an event, in case
[00:13:59] there is a security event that requires us to join forces
[00:14:03] with each other. They conduct patrols with us in the kibbutz. We see them on
[00:14:06] the line, on the fence itself, moving around,
[00:14:08] patrolling. Uh, there is close cooperation, there are
[00:14:12] good friendly relations and very close cooperation with these forces. Did you get
[00:14:16] to know Harel Bernstein and Tamir Vaknin personally? Not
[00:14:20] on a personal level, because they rotate once a month. Our security officer
[00:14:24] is in more frequent contact, almost daily. We,
[00:14:28] the team members themselves and the kibbutz residents, less often meet
[00:14:31] with them daily, every time it's a different
[00:14:35] force that arrives. So I didn't get to meet them personally, but they were
[00:14:38] in the kibbutz quite a few times, and when you talk to these reservists
[00:14:41] who also defend you directly, of course, and also
[00:14:45] us who are in the center
[00:14:48] indirectly, uh, who are these
[00:14:51] people? What do you feel about their motivation?
[00:14:55] About their hardships? First
[00:14:58] of all, I feel that they don't really
[00:15:00] let us feel their hardships. They mostly, to us residents and also
[00:15:04] as friends, because in the end we also do reserve duty as an emergency squad. I also do reserve duty in the navy,
[00:15:08] and in the end, you feel that they come with a kind
[00:15:11] of mission with a lot of motivation to do and to help
[00:15:15] and to be there for us. But
[00:15:18] uh, between
[00:15:21] the lines, you understand the difficulty of the burden there is.
[00:15:26] Such a number of reserve days, and they already
[00:15:29] know that they will be facing more hardship in a few months.
[00:15:33] And that makes it very difficult. Some of them are family people with businesses. So
[00:15:37] you understand this difficulty, but they don't make you feel uncomfortable. That is,
[00:15:41] they tell you, "Listen, we are here really, really to
[00:15:44] protect you residents, and we will do everything to keep you
[00:15:47] safe." But you see the hardship between the lines, you see
[00:15:50] the burden that falls on them. Listen, they have been for three years,
[00:15:54] listen, there are people with 700 reserve days in the last three years. That means that just because they don't tell you
[00:15:58] that they are in distress, it doesn't mean that they are not in distress.
[00:16:02] Correct. For Zev, yes, what, what
[00:16:05] do you know about yesterday's incident?
[00:16:08] There are no details beyond what was published. We have no details.
[00:16:12] Ah, but I understand,
[00:16:15] like I think what was published, we kind of went through some kind of sweep
[00:16:18] here. I understand that they were on a patrol
[00:16:21] for the purpose of clearing and neutralizing
[00:16:25] buildings, or you know, to clear them,
[00:16:28] and there was some kind of explosive device there. I, like everyone else sees
[00:16:32] in the publications, it's unclear if it's something that was installed there
[00:16:36] or placed there after the ceasefire or before
[00:16:39] the ceasefire. I assume that when the IDF finishes investigating,
[00:16:43] then it will be published. Are you witnesses
[00:16:45] to such a thing? Can you hear explosions?
[00:16:49] Do you immediately understand, do you immediately understand that something happened in your
[00:16:52] sector? Look, there are several indications for that. First of all, there are always
[00:16:56] explosions, because the IDF is working very hard, blowing up tunnels and infrastructure there, and when it
[00:17:00] does that in the western area, in the western sector, then you
[00:17:04] hear it very well. Sometimes there are explosions that literally shake the windows.
[00:17:08] And the situation is very loud
[00:17:12] even. Uh, when there is an incident, there are other indications
[00:17:15] of evacuations, of helicopters. You immediately receive some
[00:17:19] responses and indications over the radio that something
[00:17:22] more complex probably happened. But there is always noise. That means the army
[00:17:26] is working very hard there and dealing with the infrastructure
[00:17:28] there, and you hear it, you hear it also
[00:17:31] here.
[00:17:33] And how, we just spoke with Rubi Amar Shaleg, our correspondent in the North, about
[00:17:36] the routine of life, how it looks for the people
[00:17:40] of the North compared to what is happening here. How
[00:17:43] does it look now that we already know, Guata and I felt
[00:17:47] that it's been relatively quiet for a few weeks, from what
[00:17:50] we can do in our daily lives? Is it a bit
[00:17:54] harder for you, or do you not do it at all? No, we, I
[00:17:58] want to tell you that we are forcing ourselves
[00:18:01] to return to a full routine.
[00:18:04] And in this full routine, we are...
[00:18:15] in the evening, do you go out normally? Yes, yes, yes, yes. Not Organ Ha'Arieh.
[00:18:19] In Hanita too there is a coffee shop, and in Hanita
[00:18:22] there is a visitors' center for a distillery, and there are activities on Friday
[00:18:26] afternoons. That's for the adults. How is the situation regarding
[00:18:29] the children? Normal, completely normal.
[00:18:32] Look, I won't tell you that we returned to some kind of euphoria and everything
[00:18:35] is rosy. We understand that we are in
[00:18:37] a sensitive situation, but we also trust the IDF immensely.
[00:18:41] In the end, the IDF is a buffer between us and the enemy. Yes, but
[00:18:45] we also trusted the IDF before and yet the situation was not good. I
[00:18:48] think, I think no, I agree
[00:18:51] with you. I think that everyone understood after the mistakes made three
[00:18:55] years ago and the failures that occurred in the South.
[00:18:57] I think the army completely changed its approach. I speak
[00:19:01] and meet the Battalion Commander who comes here and the Brigade Commander who comes
[00:19:04] here. We all, and you hear the
[00:19:07] pain they have that is not related to them personally, regarding what happened
[00:19:11] in the South. You hear the pain as military personnel
[00:19:15] and you see that they will do everything to prevent this from happening, simply everything.
[00:19:18] And I really trust them. Now, someone could try to infiltrate the tail
[00:19:22] of the forces, to try to infiltrate. For that, there is an emergency squad. For that, there is a full
[00:19:25] security or defense system of the IDF and emergency
[00:19:29] squads on the border. And we don't let that disturb our daily
[00:19:32] lives. We really, I tell people, come and visit, come
[00:19:36] to the bed and breakfasts, come to the cafes, And every now and then you hear explosions. I know it's
[00:19:40] not ideal, it's not Switzerland, but
[00:19:42] this is the State of Israel in a situation where you can enjoy
[00:19:46] the North. On the other hand, as a child born in Kiryat Shmona,
[00:19:50] you must not forget the children. And you know what, there are also adults. I have
[00:19:53] two sisters for whom this simply affected their lives,
[00:19:57] that even the explosions at night wake them up
[00:20:00] in Baalbek, and it's very difficult to return to a routine
[00:20:03] and very difficult to return to life, and there are children for whom these explosions truly
[00:20:07] truly affect their lives. And it's not
[00:20:11] pleasant, neither for the children nor for the parents. I mean, I don't
[00:20:15] like to say, most have gotten used to it, and indeed there are those for whom it affects
[00:20:18] them. There are those, by the way, who haven't returned. There are those who decided that they don't want this
[00:20:22] fear and this waiting and to see what will happen, who decided that it's less
[00:20:26] suitable. I totally understand them. We decided
[00:20:28] not to. And unfortunately, we have somewhat
[00:20:31] gotten used to this. Now, what do I mean by unfortunately? It's good that we got used to it, because otherwise you can't
[00:20:35] continue to be there. Uh, and the children have, yes, but just
[00:20:39] to, just to see the
[00:20:42] matter from a much harder
[00:20:45] angle, sometimes you can't get used to it because your child doesn't
[00:20:48] get used to it, right?
[00:20:52] Now, I'll say something else, I'm inserting praise here because I
[00:20:56] think that people who do things need to be told that they are doing good, not just to complain
[00:20:59] to them. Also, KKL, the KKL chairman,
[00:21:03] and also Dudovitch, the chairman of the council of the confrontation
[00:21:06] line communities, they bring shows
[00:21:09] and activities for the residents of the North, for all the confrontation
[00:21:13] line. We go to shows here in our sector. They have
[00:21:16] markets here, and every
[00:21:20] almost every there is something here, and you see
[00:21:23] that there are indeed bodies in the state. You can argue whether it's a government or not,
[00:21:27] but there are bodies. These are not state bodies, these are more ironic bodies, in my
[00:21:31] opinion. Local
[00:21:33] and here in our council, I take my hat off to him. Three years ago,
[00:21:36] when the war started, there were many complaints. Very good. Listen, he learned the lessons.
[00:21:40] He raised the council, all
[00:21:43] of the confrontation line communities. And KKL also gives money and also
[00:21:46] a goal here. And I tell you, they made it fun for us in the North. And
[00:21:52] since we can't just praise, because we Jews always like to have some criticism, I think the government
[00:21:56] should have been a little more in the North, that the government should have
[00:22:00] brought activities and shows and whatever was needed
[00:22:03] for the children. There is money, some money is allocated, it just doesn't
[00:22:07] always arrive or arrives too late
[00:22:27] General (res.) Oren Avman. Good
[00:22:29] morning. Former division commander and head of the doctrine and combat department
[00:22:33] in the ground forces, doctrine of combat in the ground
[00:22:36] forces. Ah, it should be said
[00:22:38] that, in your biography, it can also be said that you
[00:22:42] were called to the flag to command the most
[00:22:45] sensitive and dangerous outpost, the Beaufort outpost, near
[00:22:48] the withdrawal, and you also managed the last gate with the evacuation of forces
[00:22:52] from southern Lebanon in 2000. When you hear about such an incident
[00:22:55] yesterday, another difficult incident after a period of calm,
[00:22:59] you think, what?
[00:23:01] Uh, first of all, with your permission, I extend my condolences to the families of Harel
[00:23:04] Bateman, the commanders and fighters, my condolences also in regular service and also
[00:23:08] in the reserves. Not as a figure of speech but as a practical
[00:23:12] matter, especially since October 7th, it is much
[00:23:15] more than the silver platter for the entire Israeli
[00:23:17] society.
[00:23:20] Uh, you know, I heard a bit of the conversation with
[00:23:23] Nadav from Hanita, and I'm just struck by the optimism
[00:23:27] and the half-full glass that exists
[00:23:30] here in the North. I am also a resident of the North and I am connected to this
[00:23:33] place, but here the government of
[00:23:36] Israel is in a strategy of putting out fires, and what is happening
[00:23:40] in Lebanon, I fear that we are going to return
[00:23:44] to the reality we had in the 90s, the older ones remember
[00:23:47] this.
[00:24:20] Of course, we'll talk about the incident soon, because it causes decision-makers
[00:24:23] not to make decisions, and in the end they create an improvised
[00:24:27] reality in a kind of security
[00:24:30] strip
[00:24:33] in Lebanon, and they are trying to create the reality of
[00:24:36] that yellow line in an area that is 120
[00:24:39] kilometers. The security strip is 15 kilometers, 45
[00:24:42] kilometers north of it. It is 120 kilometers of difficult
[00:24:45] mountainous terrain. But Brigadier General Oren Avman, the deceptive
[00:24:49] calm that you are talking about is actually again the mentioned
[00:24:52] containment that we experienced in the last 20 years. So what, what
[00:24:56] lessons did we learn from October 7th? So that's exactly
[00:25:00] the point. The point is that first of all, the strategy that should guide
[00:25:03] the actions of Israel
[00:25:06] and consequently, of course, all the combat sectors, is
[00:25:10] that October 7th should be before our eyes as a huge
[00:25:13] inscription. We do not transfer responsibility to anyone, regarding what is happening
[00:25:17] in the South. We must not
[00:25:20] ignore the capability
[00:25:23] that develops two and a half meters from Kibbutz Hanita or from Metulla or from Kiryat
[00:25:27] Shmona, where you grew up. And there is
[00:25:31] no situation in which we will privatize the responsibility of the IDF
[00:25:35] and allow the enemy any capability to reach such a situation, because if
[00:25:38] on October 7th there was an incident
[00:25:41] similar to what happened in the South, our situation would have been
[00:25:45] very, very bad, and in my humble opinion, I don't know
[00:25:48] if it's luck.
[00:25:51] The privilege to be a partner, that within less than 24 hours there will be 60,000
[00:25:55] people in the northern region. But on the morning of October 7th,
[00:25:58] a different reality could have developed here. So it's not related.
[00:26:32] Tell me, what else can be done? You
[00:26:34] know, we also carried out operations that were
[00:26:38] intelligence operations,
[00:26:41] warning operations, like the pager operation, other
[00:26:44] operations. We entered on foot, we bombed
[00:26:48] from the air. What else can be done? It's possible
[00:26:51] that this is a reality that is imposed on us. If we want the enemy not to approach
[00:26:55] the border line, we need to be there for such
[00:26:59] a stay. Naturally, there is a price for that. Just like you
[00:27:03] in the 90s, we thought it was over, but it's not. What else can be done? We just made a mistake
[00:27:07] by not continuing the first round, when they were really, really on the ropes, and everyone
[00:27:11] said they were really flat, and we stopped, and now we let them
[00:27:15] reorganize. Yes, so let's try to analyze. We can
[00:27:19] also discuss the last three years and also history, but let's talk about the reality
[00:27:22] in August 2026, the strategic reality of the State of Israel.
[00:27:26] One, after Hizbollah, we will look at the half-full glass.
[00:27:29] Hizbollah is not in the place it was on October 7th,
[00:27:33] 2023. It is an organization that the IDF
[00:27:36] and other security forces severely damaged.
[00:27:39] But it has become a terrorist organization with
[00:27:43] medium-range capabilities that has. And by the way,
[00:27:46] that's a question that will be asked if one day a state inquiry
[00:27:50] commission is established here. We must not focus only on the South. We need
[00:27:53] to ask what happened here. Let's talk about what happened from 2006 to
[00:27:56] 2026. How did we create this reality
[00:28:00] we have.
[00:28:12] And everything you said about the two shifts that took place in 2020 and late
[00:28:15] 2023, also 2024. These shifts
[00:28:18] created a completely different reality. But now we need to develop a security
[00:28:21] concept. In a security concept, there are many components. One, how
[00:28:25] does the border line look? Two, what is the meaning of the security zone? Do
[00:28:29] we need the stay in 200'.
[00:28:32] 26, similar to, for example, 2000 or 99, a physical
[00:28:36] stay in various fortified outposts in the area
[00:28:39] physically, or will we create intelligence dominance? If today they have drones
[00:28:43] and missiles and many other things, and if there is intelligence, we
[00:28:46] will also carry out commando raids or other operations. And therefore, we can
[00:28:50] create the security zone, not the security strip, a very, very
[00:28:53] effective security zone in combat
[00:28:56] intelligence, in observation, in raids, in closing
[00:28:59] fire circles. Now, what will happen if not? What will happen
[00:29:03] The reality begins to dictate things and slowly we will reach
[00:29:07] an event like yesterday, an event like 10
[00:29:10] days ago, and two more helicopters arriving at Rambam and so on.
[00:29:14] And in the end, someone else will make the decision. So why is the IDF struggling to stay
[00:29:17] in the field? You, Ro'em, are saying that it is possible to control this area intelligently, even
[00:29:21] this area. Today there are means, you know, they
[00:29:24] don't end regarding control over an area from a distance. Why are we insisting
[00:29:28] on returning to the same situation of the 80s and 90s and staying in the field?
[00:29:33] I think and I'm saying
[00:29:36] this, I'm a bit cynical about
[00:29:39] this. I think that the IDF is not insisting on
[00:29:42] this, but rather they are creating
[00:29:45] some kind of spin, like you know, Susbi and Abofor
[00:29:49] and the conquest of Abofor. Exactly, you have already in the past argued that a tactical
[00:29:52] conquest of an area like Abofor sometimes, you know, covered up a much wider
[00:29:56] strategic lack of options. Exactly, there is no
[00:29:59] strategic answer that we are debating.
[00:30:11] He really is amazing, but we need to stand and salute him every minute. Given amazing soldiers,
[00:30:14] an amazing army, but decision-makers no, no, no, I'm talking about
[00:30:17] the second part of the sentence, he's stretched to his limits
[00:30:20] in terms of strategy. You see, everyone who lived through
[00:30:23] the reserves, the reserve hall, now I'm living it myself, and
[00:30:27] I'm not a child anymore, and I'm living it through four children,
[00:30:31] and I tell you.
[00:31:03] There's something incredible here, when I say at the end, the outburst, it's
[00:31:06] like a complete , complete
[00:31:09] disregard for the situation. Now we can talk, let's conquer all the way
[00:31:13] to Lebanon, let's conquer Syria.
[00:31:17] The tip of this spear called Israel's security,
[00:31:20] this tip, is already starting to be, it's still sharp,
[00:31:24] it's strong, but it's starting to be very dark. But wait, in
[00:31:27] my opinion, we have a much harder problem than before. We keep
[00:31:30] saying, are we going back to the situation of October 7th
[00:31:34] and the stories, when
[00:31:37] in the past
[00:31:39] we might have contained more, contained less, but we could still
[00:31:43] make decisions. Today we're not even making decisions
[00:31:47] in this area. Right, so exactly, that's exactly the point, you're
[00:31:50] holding the bull by its horns, because what am I saying? There's a reality
[00:31:54] now that strategically the government brought it about, but let's not talk politics
[00:31:58] at all here, let's talk facts now, it doesn't matter who's from the left, who's from the right, all these manipulations
[00:32:02] of an election year. In this strategy, we're not making
[00:32:05] decisions, and when decisions aren't made, the one who pays the price
[00:32:09] is the Manaf and the obligation that enters an area for a scan
[00:32:12] 3,828 of them there. And therefore we have exhausted
[00:32:16] the maneuver, we have exhausted the destruction of the infrastructure. And what is happening
[00:32:19] to you, by the way, and you were a soldier in these
[00:32:22] situations, not just an officer, and also a young
[00:32:26] officer, what happens to the
[00:32:28] field level in such a situation? I'll tell you what happens, let's
[00:32:32] talk on the national level, on a personal level, I wanted to
[00:32:35] ask, I'm saying, no, what influences the personal level? I'm saying,
[00:32:39] but there are two parallel universes here. In the first
[00:32:42] universe, a person gets up, puts on his uniform, kisses his four
[00:32:45] children, leaves his workplace, goes for 90
[00:32:48] days to a dangerous place and serves this country, and he has
[00:32:52] tremendous responsibility to his soldiers in an insane
[00:32:55] way. In this universe, this is the universe that holds the State of Israel, in the parallel
[00:32:59] universe, there are all sorts of bored people who go to the border
[00:33:03] to cut a fence with pliers and make some kind of "Hasamba" of
[00:33:06] bored people, Haredim who block the road every quarter
[00:33:10] hour and shout "Nazis" at soldiers. How do you think this
[00:33:13] affects the...?
[00:33:21] In 2000 there was no internet yet. Today everyone with their
[00:33:24] device reads the push notifications, looks at Twitter, sees what's happening everywhere,
[00:33:28] and he says, listen, what is going on here?
[00:33:32] We are here risking our lives at a very,
[00:33:35] very heavy personal and family price, and in the meantime
[00:33:39] they are giving money to them and distributing
[00:33:42] and generally
[00:33:44] this. Strategic vertigo,
[00:34:07] Why? Let's go back a bit, 50 years ago, the Yom
[00:34:10] Kippur War, October '73,
[00:34:13] a tragedy, what they did was crazy. to us and all
[00:34:16] the systems
[00:34:19] operate again and try to say it won't happen
[00:34:22] again and it will happen again and we'll do this and we'll do that. A few months
[00:34:25] later in April '74, a terrorist
[00:34:28] infiltration in Kiryat Shmona, they murder a whole
[00:34:31] building and no one understands how this happened. This was
[00:34:35] a few months, you understand, from October to April, half
[00:34:38] a year, and they shouted then, how did they not learn a lesson? How did they not learn a lesson
[00:34:42] half a year ago it was Yom Kippur and I think that. Unfortunately,
[00:34:46] we suffer from the disease of forgetfulness.
[00:34:49] I, I, I and the fighters and the commanders of the current generation, I
[00:34:53] don't think that the October 7th , that terrible day,
[00:34:56] no one, anyone who has ever, and you
[00:34:59] among them, worn on his left chest, the
[00:35:03] shirt that says "Israel Defense Forces", the Israel Defense Forces
[00:35:06] failed on October 7th. They took our citizens, children,
[00:35:10] women from their beds, and abducted them to Gaza,
[00:35:13] and over 20 people were killed.
[00:35:16] We must never forget this event, and there are those who try to make us forget
[00:35:20] it. This is, to my sorrow, that I say, we didn't investigate it,
[00:35:23] three years later we didn't investigate this event, this
[00:35:27] is our failure, because we have so much to learn
[00:35:30] strategically, systemically, tactically, how to build the IDF now a generation
[00:35:34] ahead, what is the meaning of the reserve army, this army is too
[00:35:37] small for its missions, how do we maintain this monster
[00:35:41] with 40,000 permanent staff, something in 30 seconds because we really don't have
[00:35:50] time you know
[00:35:53] in fact these soldiers
[00:35:56] from the paratroopers basically entered a built-up area, this is the operation they
[00:35:59] carried out, and in the end you go into a built-up area,
[00:36:02] you understand that it's booby-trapped, so
[00:36:06] how do we end up falling into something like this? How does this happen? It's not fair to say this
[00:36:10] to them, I'm not, no, no, no, I'm not claiming all
[00:36:13] the houses there are booby-trapped. I 'm just saying in 30 seconds I'll say one
[00:36:16] thing, ah, I need
[00:36:20] to conduct a real strategic assessment,
[00:36:24] clean, that also includes the enemy, also the ground, and also the.
[00:36:28] And make decisions. What is the defense concept? Not yet
[00:36:32] security, God forbid, I'm not asking, not high-level matters. What is the defense concept
[00:36:36] on our borders? What is the defense concept in Judea and Samaria?
[00:36:39] How is it done? And mainly, who does it? In
[00:36:42] light of the crazy human limitations of
[00:36:46] manpower resources, equipment,
[00:36:48] and inventory.
[00:36:51] Yes, Major General (res.). One first. Because
[00:36:55] reality will dictate this to us. Yes. Letter from Major General (res.)
[00:36:58] Oren Avman, former commander of Dugda and head of the combat doctrine department in the Ground
[00:37:02] Forces. Thank you very much, and we, I believe, will talk
[00:37:04] again later. We just want to say that later in the program we have a special
[00:37:08] interview with the commander of the Paratroopers Brigade.
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[00:37:45] was a very cool song, like the breakthrough is very simple to make a song
[00:37:49] only with stickers that will have
[00:40:45] for the primaries? Thank you, thank you Arie. How are you
[00:40:47] preparing? I know you have,
[00:40:51] I visit many voters
[00:40:54] at weddings, hand out gifts.
[00:40:57] Britot, I'm the Mohel at Britot, what do you
[00:41:01] know? Yes, exactly, I wanted to talk about the primaries, because I want to tell
[00:41:05] you, friends, that I very much understand Benjamin
[00:41:07] Netanyahu, that in his role as chairman
[00:41:11] of the Likud movement, that the list in the Knesset, as
[00:41:15] it represented the Likud in the 25th Knesset, doesn't look
[00:41:18] good to him, and he wants to bring in other faces,
[00:41:21] more charismatic
[00:41:24] for the voters, some of whom probably want to leave the Likud, voting.
[00:41:27] There are all kinds of parties between Dan Maki
[00:41:30] parties Yuli Edelstein, meaning
[00:41:33] Netanyahu understands that the list he had in this
[00:41:36] Knesset was not optimal and he wants to improve and I.
[00:41:40] I always remember democracy,
[00:41:42] elections, there are a lot of businesses and people
[00:41:46] joining family members and people paying for other people, and there
[00:41:50] are group leaders there, and they also close all kinds of jobs
[00:41:53] along the way.
[00:41:56] Not like that, democracy is not running wild there, and I start
[00:41:59] remembering that there was once on that historical map of
[00:42:03] the 50s and 60s, there was one man whose name was Shrag
[00:42:07] HaNatzar, Shrag HaNatzar was not a Knesset member. His
[00:42:11] highest official position he reached was chairman of the committee of
[00:42:14] sanitation workers in the Tel Aviv municipality.
[00:42:18] However, he was strong, he was very close, he was so strong, the strongest man
[00:42:21] in Mapai, he was very close to Ben-Gurion. They knew that what Shrag HaNatzar
[00:42:25] said, he did. This was from the horse's mouth, this was from Ben-Gurion. Now,
[00:42:29] before elections, Shrag HaNatzar would sit, I think, at Cafe Batya in Tel
[00:42:33] Aviv and compose the list. He was a one-man organizing committee.
[00:42:36] He would simply compose the list for Mapai.
[00:43:53] But in the end, in the end, it could be that I understand
[00:43:56] Netanyahu when he says I will compile, I will sit, I will compile
[00:43:59] a list, I know how to choose the people, those who were
[00:44:02] some of them I don't want to see anymore, we'll bring others. Only
[00:44:06] one question remains, Arie Golan, you brought the list.
[00:44:16] No, this time he really wants to arrange it himself, he asked for a lot
[00:44:19] of reserved spots, he tried to bring people through here,
[00:44:23] through there, he's trying to change, in this
[00:44:26] matter, I understand him, in this matter I understand,
[00:44:30] the list that was there is not the best that the Likud movement, which was really
[00:44:34] a very glorious movement, could give and present to the public, and I think
[00:44:38] that in general this is this is due.
[00:44:41] from three points, first of all we need to talk about one point which is a problem
[00:44:44] for him, that the reserved spots are not really
[00:44:47] working out for him, people he wanted to bring don't really want
[00:44:50] to come. They refuse, yes, they don't want to come, so for now there is no
[00:44:53] here, this is one, this is how it goes, yes,
[00:44:57] but but but his great fear is two things
[00:45:00] actually, one, he wants to go after
[00:45:04] the disobedient Knesset members, and that way he'll have more control. Who are the disobedient
[00:45:08] ones, who are the disobedient ones? Danny Lous is no longer there, they
[00:45:11] resigned, he's out, Lous
[00:45:14] is out. Exhibiting
[00:45:16] attitudes, you don't remember him saying at the time about
[00:45:20] Mizrahim not working and such things, not on
[00:45:24] us, and in the end he went after him. He's proposing Gadi Eisenkot, he
[00:45:28] wants to see Eisenkot in Likud, did you hear that?
[00:45:32] Yes, there's a Moroccan issue here, I think, because
[00:45:35] David Amsalem is very aware of the
[00:45:37] religious issue.
[00:45:39] But
[00:45:48] but but the main thing is that he wants
[00:45:51] to take control of the list because he is deathly afraid
[00:45:54] of defectors after the elections. He has a deathly
[00:45:58] fear that they will do to him the act of Silman, which is the issue, certainly
[00:46:01] that too. He understands politics now because Guetta
[00:46:05] understands politics and was there, how do you get
[00:46:08] on the list?
[00:46:47] The editor is already telling us that time is up, but broadly speaking,
[00:46:51] there is no Council of Sages right now. In Shas, period, there isn't? There isn't,
[00:46:54] there's no unity, there's nothing, everyone does what's right in their own eyes,
[00:46:57] yes, in their own eyes they'll also do,
[00:47:00] I don't know, I didn't say that, but the Council doesn't lead a line and doesn't
[00:47:04] convene almost at all, it's interesting, because once it did, yes, it
[00:56:19] the meal,
[00:58:16] in the morning.
[01:00:18] Now we have a news update. The funeral dates
[01:00:21] for the two IDF soldiers who fell yesterday in an explosive device
[01:00:24] blast in southern Lebanon have been published. Major (res.) Harel Birenstock,
[01:00:28] company commander in Battalion 2855,
[01:00:31] Hod Hachanit Formation, 34 years old from Nukadim, will be buried
[01:00:34] in an hour at the military cemetery on Mount
[01:00:37] Herzl. Staff Sergeant Major (res.) Tamir Vaknin,
[01:00:41] fighter in Battalion 2855, Hod
[01:00:43] Hachanit Formation, 33 years old from Eilat, will be buried.
[01:00:47] at 7:20 PM tonight at the military cemetery in Eilat.
[01:00:51] May their memory be blessed. In the incident
[01:00:54] in which Harel and Tamir fell, four reserve soldiers
[01:00:57] were seriously injured. The incident occurred yesterday around 12
[01:01:01] PM in the village of Majdal Zoun which is located within the Israeli
[01:01:04] security zone in southern Lebanon. Reserve paratroopers
[01:01:08] who were securing engineering work, entered
[01:01:11] a building that turned out to be booby-trapped and were injured
[01:01:13] by an explosive device. The IDF has controlled the area
[01:01:17] of the incident for a long time, and the army says that Hezbollah violated
[01:01:20] the ceasefire understandings even though it is unclear when the device
[01:01:24] was planted.
[01:01:27] A human body was found this morning in the area of the Yarkon Park near Petah Tikva
[01:01:31] during searches for the missing Eldar Dean. Dean, a 23-year-old
[01:01:34] resident of Dimona, was last seen in the Petah Tikva area
[01:01:38] 19 days ago. Ads survey, our reporter at the police
[01:01:42] doesn't say it's Dean. What are they saying
[01:01:45] now? Correct, first of all, we need to be very
[01:01:48] careful, Yonatan. We still don't know who the body found here
[01:01:52] in the field at the scene near Petah Tikva is. There were indeed
[01:01:55] searches in the morning hours by Yemar Sharon. Help, yes, a body
[01:01:58] in an advanced state of decomposition. The findings were collected just a
[01:02:02] few moments ago. They finished their work here at the scene,
[01:02:04] and as mentioned, the body is being sent to the Abu Kabir Institute of Forensic
[01:02:08] Medicine for identification of
[01:02:11] the body. Eldar Dean's mother is here
[01:02:15] at the scene after she saw someone. A body
[01:02:20] in the Petah Tikva area, she
[01:02:24] yelled at the police officers, so she didn't obey, demanded to enter
[01:02:27] the scene, ah, shouted.
[01:02:33] The family is still here grieving, understandably
[01:02:37] in a very difficult and sensitive situation they are in. It's been more than
[01:02:41] two and a half weeks since her son disappeared.
[01:02:44] Bottom line, as of now,
[01:02:45] operations at the scene
[01:02:49] have concluded. And when there is
[01:02:52] an identity of that body, we will of course
[01:02:55] update through the police, Ads.
[01:02:58] Thank you and so we will hear. of Eldar Dean when he arrived at the scene.
[01:03:15] And in the Arab community, the second murder in only about 12
[01:03:18] hours. In Muqeibla in the Jezreel Valley, Eyad Hayman
[01:03:22] Gormah, about 20 years old, was murdered. An unknown assailant shot him at his doorstep,
[01:03:26] most likely due to an ongoing conflict between families in Ash.
[01:03:37] His wife was murdered about a year ago. Since the beginning of the year,
[01:03:40] 160 people have been murdered in the Arab
[01:03:43] community. Now to the zigzag of the Ministry
[01:03:46] dozens of supervised daycare centers of shekels were transferred to daycares.
[01:03:49] In the ultra-Orthodox sector, they didn't arrive at their homes. After
[01:03:53] the discovery in the office, they were allowed to deduct the budgets, but
[01:03:56] now they are retracting. Miran Hodeshinu, our correspondent for your matter.
[01:04:02] Hello, Yonatan, two years ago, in your audit of the Ministry of Education, it was discovered that
[01:04:05] for ultra-Orthodox did not pay
[01:04:09] the persistence grant given by the state to assistants
[01:04:12] and took the money, apparently, to the daycare's
[01:04:14] coffers. The state is now demanding to deduct millions of shekels
[01:04:18] from those daycare centers that did not pay the assistants, but the CEO
[01:04:21] of the Ministry of Education, Meir Shimoni, is asking the state
[01:04:25] to waive the fees for those ultra-Orthodox daycare centers due to fear
[01:04:28] that they will collapse. The early childhood sector is already collapsing. And precisely
[01:04:31] daycare centers that did pay the money, like WIZO and Na'amat
[01:04:34] and Emunah, are not in the picture because they did pay
[01:04:38] their assistants. So what do they say about this at the Ministry of Education? The CEO's
[01:04:41] construction was done in full cooperation with the professional bodies in the ministry and was intended to promote
[01:04:45] a framework that prevents real harm to the continuity of the evening daycare system's
[01:04:48] activities and the opening of the school year. Thank you,
[01:04:52] Liran. Yoav Horovitz, who was Netanyahu's confidant, CEO
[01:04:56] of the Prime Minister's Office, opens everything. Tomorrow in court.
[01:05:00] Friday news on Kan News, the full interview with our reporter Gili
[01:05:03] Cohen.
[01:05:06] I really wanted to work with Netanyahu,
[01:05:09] and I knew Netanyahu who I thought
[01:05:12] was statesmanlike.
[01:05:16] If I once thought that was true, today I know it's not
[01:05:18] true. Power corrupts
[01:05:22] even moral virtues, but it corrupts the perception
[01:05:25] of reality.
[01:05:28] The State of Israel is filing an indictment.
[01:05:31] He goes to war against the State
[01:05:32] of Israel.
[01:05:36] And that's all for our news update for this hour. Now Yigal Guetta
[01:05:39] and Omri Assenheim on Kan News on Reshet B. Our next update at 12.
[01:05:43] Have a good and quiet morning. Goodbye
[01:05:46] for now.
[01:06:05] will now go to the material, to people who, yes, these are people
[01:06:08] who truly protect us, unequivocally. And we say,
[01:06:12] good morning to Colonel
[01:06:15] Roy. Hello, good morning, good morning, same to you,
[01:06:18] right, commander of the Paratroopers Brigade.
[01:06:22] Hello, hello, and this is a special day for you, because today there's
[01:06:26] recruitment for the brigade. Yes, we are fortunate to receive. A line
[01:06:30] of the brigade, hundreds more recruits who join, uh,
[01:06:34] the legacy of generations, join the Paratroopers Brigade, and this
[01:06:37] is, like in previous years, is it more, is it
[01:06:40] less? I have to say that since
[01:06:43] forever, the Paratroopers Brigade has had a great
[01:06:47] response, and many excellent guys join
[01:06:50] our ranks. There's no doubt that when
[01:06:53] our country is still at war
[01:06:56] and significantly, then this wonderful youth answers
[01:07:00] the call, and we see even more people trying
[01:07:04] to join the ranks of the brigade, and the motivation is very
[01:07:07] high. We are, you know, in a difficult
[01:07:11] day. Two IDF soldiers, Harel Birnstock and Tamir
[01:07:15] Vaknin were killed
[01:07:17] yesterday in Lebanon.
[01:07:20] And you, you know, you know the sector well.
[01:07:24] When you hear about such an incident, it's not your brigade, it's a reserve
[01:07:28] brigade, but...
[01:07:30] Is there even a way to deal with the existing situation in this new
[01:07:34] sector, in this new security sector, or is this
[01:07:37] currently the best we can do, to defend from
[01:07:40] the outposts, from the homes?
[01:07:44] A, and you know, and to pay this price. First
[01:07:48] of all, paratroopers, paratroopers, paratrooper, reserve paratroopers
[01:07:51] who fell. And dear people
[01:07:55] who did very important
[01:07:57] work. And the entire Paratroopers Brigade
[01:08:00] was saddened to hear these difficult tidings.
[01:08:04] It's important for me to say here to also send a strong hug
[01:08:07] to the families.
[01:08:10] And I want to say that
[01:08:12] the regular paratroopers who are currently in the south and also the other
[01:08:16] paratrooper brigades in the reserves, some of which
[01:08:20] are also in the north, are doing their best. I think that in the face of
[01:08:23] existing challenges which are great, the work I do is optimal
[01:08:27] work, and we are in a dangerous
[01:08:30] profession, and our job is to protect the State of Israel. You know,
[01:08:34] Goi, and I are civilians, and when we,
[01:08:37] when I heard this news and received it,
[01:08:40] of course, like all journalists. A little earlier, so it
[01:08:44] really makes, it truly makes a very, very big pang
[01:08:47] in the heart. What is it for you as the commander of the Paratroopers Brigade
[01:08:51] to hear, to receive the news of such
[01:08:53] an event?
[01:08:56] I'll tell you this, besides being a commander of the Paratroopers Brigade, I'm
[01:08:59] also a citizen of the State of Israel, and a father
[01:09:03] and a son, like every citizen of the State of Israel, it
[01:09:07] pains me, and as their colleague,
[01:09:10] as a paratrooper like them.
[01:09:13] It pains me greatly.
[01:09:17] And I tell you that we also opened, we knew about it a little before
[01:09:21] it was published, and we talked about it
[01:09:23] here in the brigade with the commanders,
[01:09:27] and we mentioned the eight, we mentioned the tremendous
[01:09:29] sacrifice. Uh, it's hard for all of us. There's
[01:09:33] no way to make it easier.
[01:09:37] The experience of loss is a difficult experience. You know, Omri, Omri asked how it
[01:09:41] affects you, and I want to ask how it affects your soldiers,
[01:09:44] such an event, on the new
[01:09:47] recruits?
[01:09:49] I think that everyone who enlists
[01:09:53] knows that they are enlisting, uh, for
[01:09:56] a very important cause, to protect our people, to protect our
[01:10:00] land. And I say,
[01:10:03] these events, and every time a soldier falls, it's
[01:10:07] hard. I have no way to say it in any other way, it's very, very hard.
[01:10:11] But this is our faith, our absolute righteousness,
[01:10:14] and the importance of the action we are taking. We are not defending
[01:10:18] borders of things, we are not defending, defending
[01:10:22] the people of Israel, we are defending our land,
[01:10:25] and everyone is aware of our purpose and mission. I
[01:10:29] say that despite the great personal
[01:10:31] pain, the great collective
[01:10:34] pain, it does not weaken our hands in any way. I
[01:10:38] tell both the young guys and the veteran paratroopers, it might even give
[01:10:41] more. I don't think
[01:10:45] we can talk about motivation here.
[01:10:48] Every loss of a paratrooper and indeed of a commander
[01:10:52] in the IDF is an event that is difficult
[01:10:55] for all of us, but I say it does not weaken
[01:10:58] our hands in our ability. The fact that it's difficult, it's difficult
[01:11:02] for the soldiers, that's clear. The question, and the fact that it doesn't weaken your hands, that's clear.
[01:11:05] The question is whether to a certain
[01:11:06] extent
[01:11:09] unfortunately it proves that
[01:11:14] we must continue on this path. What
[01:11:18] it proves is that we must be a protective
[01:11:21] layer for the people of Israel, for the civilians. That's what's
[01:11:25] important. We need to be there. The fighters and commanders need to be
[01:11:28] there, and behind us are yeshiva students. That's what it proves, and that's
[01:11:32] what's important. Look, we are almost, Colonel Roy,
[01:11:35] we are almost three years after the October session.
[01:11:39] How does the Paratroopers Brigade look today
[01:11:42] compared to the eve of October 7th, October
[01:11:46] 6th, 2023?
[01:11:49] I don't think you can compare the operational
[01:11:51] experience of the commanders and fighters
[01:11:55] in the brigade to what it was
[01:11:58] before. The brigade has been fighting
[01:12:01] continuously for almost three years,
[01:12:05] and in fact, in every sector, we were in the north, in the south,
[01:12:08] in Judea and Samaria, in all places in Syria.
[01:12:13] In all the significant places where the fighting took place,
[01:12:16] and the fighters and commanders gained a lot of
[01:12:19] operational knowledge and operational experience. The brigade itself
[01:12:22] has improved greatly in terms of equipment and capabilities. I think
[01:12:26] that the brigade is always, you know, it's a brigade with a tremendous
[01:12:30] heritage of decades that participated in all of Israel's
[01:12:33] wars. But when I meet, also the
[01:12:37] paratroopers of the past, our veterans, and talk to them
[01:12:40] and present to them the brigade's activities in the last three years,
[01:12:44] it's no less than awe. How worn out
[01:12:47] are your soldiers? I remember that during the Swords of Iron
[01:12:51] war, there were strong complaints from officers against who was then the commander.
[01:12:58] Abusive treatment of subordinates. This was a matter of very, very
[01:13:02] great fatigue among the soldiers. What did you learn and how are you
[01:13:05] now? I have to say, my predecessor
[01:13:09] in the role led the brigade in a complex and difficult
[01:13:12] operational situation and led it in an excellent way.
[01:13:16] That's one thing. Second, I say, we are a regular
[01:13:20] brigade. The cycles change.
[01:13:23] Uh, and we receive some new
[01:13:26] fighters
[01:13:29] into our ranks. And the brigade, not only is it not worn out, it's hungry for action.
[01:15:51] Katz and with this semi-dismissal of Avi Blot from Central
[01:15:55] Command, and there was talk that you are already carrying the burden
[01:15:59] and serving and dedicating your lives to the army. You are now a Colonel,
[01:16:02] commander of the Paratroopers
[01:16:05] Brigade. Once it was a very, very clear path forward.
[01:16:08] How do you see your future?
[01:16:11] I see my future in the most important place
[01:16:15] they want to put me in the IDF. That's what's important.
[01:16:18] In the place I am in now, commander of the Paratroopers Brigade, we are currently
[01:16:22] looking at what we are doing. I am in the most important place
[01:16:25] I can be, to lead the Paratroopers Brigade in the war
[01:16:28] to defend our people. There is no more important place. I'm not thinking about anything
[01:16:32] beyond. Will you continue in the army?
[01:16:35] I will continue in the army, yes.
[01:16:38] Excellent. Commander of the Paratroopers Brigade, Colonel Roy, recruitment
[01:16:41] day for new soldiers
[01:16:43] for the brigade. Good luck. We salute them,
[01:16:47] and may everyone return safely, including you. Thank you very much, thank you very
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[01:18:22] And it was a very cool song, like the breakthrough is very simple,
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[01:20:19] news on Reshet B. All the way to the ballot
[01:20:22] box. A little
[01:20:26] politics. We haven't touched on politics until now, Yigal, almost
[01:20:29] at all. Also that is a blessed development.
[01:20:33] Right, which, if we to be honest, we're pushing
[01:20:36] politics aside. This week, for
[01:20:39] bad reasons, due to the
[01:20:42] fall of the two soldiers, but we want
[01:20:44] to say about this to someone
[01:20:48] for whom the coming week, the coming two weeks, are very critical: Knesset member
[01:20:51] Tali Gottlieb. Good morning. Hello, hello. Nothing
[01:20:55] is critical for me. And let's just remember, we won't call them two soldiers. Let's remember
[01:20:58] Harel Birnstock, may God avenge his blood, the hero and the combat medic
[01:21:02] Tamir Vaknin, may God avenge his blood. And let's send
[01:21:05] blessings, God willing. Complete healing
[01:21:09] to our wounded. I don't like to say, to say
[01:21:12] the names.
[01:21:18] Everything is fine. I'm with you, and nothing is critical. I don't work
[01:21:21] in primaries one day. From the moment I entered
[01:21:24] the Knesset, I swore to myself and obligated myself
[01:21:27] to be worthy of public trust every day. Nothing
[01:21:31] is mine, nothing is guaranteed to me. Books don't interest me.
[01:21:34] The only thing that interests me is the people. It was critical for me. But still, in the end,
[01:21:38] in the end, to get elected, you have to make some deals. No, no, you can't
[01:21:42] make deals if you have nothing to make deals with. I don't have Likud members, so it's not
[01:21:46] relevant. This is indeed very disturbing to many
[01:21:49] people from the left and from the right, maybe even you,
[01:21:53] Tali Gottlieb, what will happen with her, what will we do with her?
[01:21:56] I actually heard some leftist who told me, "I wish Tali Gottlieb
[01:22:00] would be elected." Why? I don't know what left is. I don't know what a leftist
[01:22:03] is to you. Not what you call leftists, you call them leftists.
[01:22:07] People who are connected, say, to Democrats, yes? Democrats
[01:22:11] are not leftists, they are enemies of the land
[01:22:12] of Israel.
[01:22:19] On a day when two soldiers are killed, let's leave that, let's
[01:22:22] leave that for a moment. Excuse me, did you forget that Yair Golan said that we
[01:22:26] send soldiers to murder babies as a syntactical structure? He didn't say, he said
[01:22:29] that a strong country doesn't send, that's exactly what he
[01:22:32] said. Look also, look also at what's happening at pro-Hamas demonstrations around the world with
[01:22:36] Yair Golan's picture.
[01:22:43] I'll just explain to you what he told me, he told me, "Listen, I want Tali Gottlieb to be elected."
[01:22:46] Tali Gottlieb, I asked him why. He says, "The moment she's
[01:22:50] on the list, the Likud will lose mandates." So very good, so
[01:22:53] tell your leftist friend that he's also weak, because for the simple
[01:22:56] reason, it's our luck. But I also heard people in the Likud
[01:23:00] say that, that it's bad luck for the Prime Minister, to tell him that
[01:23:03] you must make sure she's not there, because if she is, we will go down.
[01:23:07] So what a fluke that the Prime Minister, unlike you and unlike your leftist
[01:23:11] friend, is a very smart man, and he listens to the public, and he knows
[01:23:15] that the public is a right-wing
[01:23:16] public.
[01:23:19] They crown
[01:24:22] him. He said in 2019 that we must, but must bring
[01:24:26] Qatari money to Gaza, because it serves and preserves the administration of
[01:24:30] Hamas. So don't tell me stories that the prime minister built
[01:24:34] Hamas. The one who always transferred and approved the
[01:24:37] concept of Hamas as a deterrent, no, no, the chief of staff does not transfer funds, what
[01:24:41] you are saying is not true. The one who decides on the transfer of funds is the prime minister, with all due respect, you
[01:24:44] probably intentionally don't want to understand what I'm saying, but you know that the one
[01:24:48] who decides on the... By the way,
[01:25:00] by the way, the change government also transferred Qatari money, but
[01:25:03] nominally to certain people,
[01:25:07] not to Hamas, and Hamas took the money and did with it what it wanted. But never mind that
[01:25:11] now, let's talk for a moment. Don't let, don't let, just a second, don't let facts confuse
[01:25:15] you, and that's okay. I say again, the political echelon always
[01:25:18] decides on this matter. Based on the statements and recommendations of the
[01:25:22] intelligence, military, and intelligence services, this is how they refer to it. This is not what
[01:25:25] my prime minister, Netanyahu, said. Prime Minister Netanyahu
[01:25:29] said the political echelon is responsible, and only
[01:25:32] it, not the army and not... That's what he said during
[01:25:35] Olmert's time, when Olmert was prime minister, he said
[01:25:39] that the entire responsibility was on him. Wait, I want to explain
[01:25:42] something to you. Of course, and you are intentionally, you don't really care what I'm
[01:25:45] saying. So I want to tell you this again so that your listeners
[01:25:49] will listen. Okay, the government, the political
[01:25:52] echelon decides everything. But when I talk to you about bringing Qatari money to Gaza,
[01:25:56] I'm telling you that the one who recommended this was the military, intelligence,
[01:26:00] and IDF echelon, the Mossad, the Shin Bet,
[01:26:04] the National Security Council, all of them unanimously recommended it, and therefore the political echelon did so. And I'm telling
[01:26:08] you, if I had been in front of the Shin Bet, as I already was in the
[01:26:11] Security Committee, me and my colleague Shoner Melech were the only ones who opposed the despicable
[01:26:15] concept of Hamas as a deterrent.
[01:26:18] To this day, by the way, we are with the same intelligence bodies that we are lying to Axos in this
[01:26:22] outrageous jump of a seasoned enemy, and an enemy needs quiet, and quiet
[01:26:25] will be met with quiet. My enemy understands force, force, and only more force.
[01:26:29] I'm sorry. And why don't we do that in Gaza,
[01:26:32] for example? We
[01:26:34] are actually doing it.
[01:26:36] Excuse me. How are they doing it? Look, they've gone back to their old ways.
[01:26:40] 30,000 terrorists in Gaza.
[01:26:44] I don't agree with you for the reason that 600 messages every day
[01:26:47] to Hamas, the same thing, we're back to the same place. No, I don't agree with you,
[01:26:51] not even a little, because you are belittling the extraordinary
[01:26:54] activity of our soldiers and our
[01:26:55] army.
[01:26:58] Listen, wait, no, no, no, we're not, I'm not, you know, if you make any
[01:27:02] comment, with respect, of course, but there won't be a comment you make that I won't answer, for the simple
[01:27:05] reason that, God forbid, someone else in the audience might think that
[01:27:09] you're seeing something right, because the activity of our army in Gaza, the activity of our
[01:27:13] army in Gaza is an enormous
[01:27:16] activity. Just this week, as was reported, there was a number of activities.
[01:27:56] of the Likud, where you are basically positioned in a place, never mind the armor, that you are
[01:28:00] positioned in third place, meaning Netanyahu is first, of course, Amir Ohana
[01:28:03] is second, and you are in third place. I am currently taking out of the picture, you
[01:28:07] and you are a test case in this story, because you really refrain from going to Bar
[01:28:11] Mitzvahs, weddings, circumcisions, all these things. No, no, just a minute, I
[01:28:14] don't refrain, I am a less social person than most
[01:28:17] people.
[01:28:32] My other abilities are my ability to advocate, very correct, thank God
[01:28:36] for her legal-bureaucratic choice that persecutes and disables
[01:28:39] us, that's it. Anyone who wants me not to be, by the way,
[01:28:42] anyone who doesn't want me to be high on the list, by the way, I promise you, it's
[01:28:46] Gali Bar Mi'ara, it's Galimon, it's Yitzhak Amit, it's many Supreme Court justices, it's many people
[01:28:50] in the judiciary. What will become of me? She still knows what she's
[01:28:53] saying, she understands the system, she understands what we're doing, she understands our
[01:28:57] organized conspiracies to disable the government
[01:29:01] by any means. I see them. That's it, and the public is wise
[01:29:04] and discerning. Also that. It's enough, it's enough. I say
[01:29:07] first of all, it's an interesting test case in the Likud. I don't remember anyone,
[01:29:11] or any Knesset member or primary candidate who behaves
[01:29:15] in such a way that basically says, "Judge me on
[01:29:18] my actions. I don't go to such places, to all the
[01:29:22] flattery."
[01:29:24] Wait, wait, no, that's not what I said. I don't think going to a Bar Mitzvah or a wedding is
[01:29:28] flattery. I think there's joy in a person's happiness, that's a great
[01:29:31] thing.
[01:29:46] What to do, that's the truth, but in what am I good? We saw that in various circles
[01:29:50] of dancing, you are very strong. Ah, of course. You know the difference
[01:29:53] between folk dancing and a social event, not belly dancing
[01:29:56] at celebrations, at Bar Mitzvahs, at weddings, in dancing.
[01:29:59] First of all, I wish I knew belly dancing. I know.
[01:30:02] You hear amazing songs and you just dance and everyone
[01:30:15] enjoys themselves together, beautiful and good Israel, and therefore even if you
[01:30:19] are not a social person, you cannot not enjoy it, and in short,
[01:30:22] we need to recommend to the Central Committee members to do folk dancing
[01:30:26] for the members.
[01:30:30] What I suggest, not what I suggest. You, it's not to underestimate. Does it
[01:30:44] seem to you that 70% of my friends are Likud members?
[01:30:46] So I have news for you, the excellent Central
[01:30:50] Committee members and excellent Likud members choose people, not
[01:30:53] because they come to their Bar Mitzvah. They choose worthy,
[01:30:56] right-wing, opinionated, articulate people. I agree. So why
[01:31:00] does everyone invest?
[01:31:32] Wait, tell me honestly, are you happy with the current Likud list, are you
[01:31:36] happy? I want to tell you, only,
[01:31:40] first of all, with me there are no secrets. If you haven't gotten used to it yet and didn't know yet, you're not asking me for any
[01:31:44] spoiler here. I always say everything openly and in real
[01:31:46] time. Just
[01:46:03] for narcissists, especially
[01:46:06] those who are on the speedy side of the.
[01:46:11] That they are indeed dangerous and risky,
[01:46:14] ah, the reason is that these people simply need
[01:46:18] power and control, they are very
[01:46:21] attracted to hierarchical systems, where the hierarchy is
[01:47:24] in the sense that I am more important
[01:47:27] than the party, and let's say, or that in fact
[01:47:31] I am the party. What does that mean, I am more important than the party?
[01:47:34] Think for a moment about the short discussion you had here about the Likud primary, yes,
[01:47:38] within the context of Tali Gottlieb, but think for a moment about the Likud primary. It's a crazy
[01:47:42] thing, we're already far beyond the normalization point
[01:47:45] for this, but think about these primaries and how they operate. No one
[01:47:49] talks about any kind of professional achievements or any
[01:47:52] vision or anything he would want to do or anything
[01:47:56] he managed to do in the past. They talk about the measure being
[01:48:00] proximity to the leader, loyalty to the leader,
[01:48:03] the ability to push forward the values
[01:48:06] of the leader. And if he has, of course
[01:48:10] he has, just not what you would want, not the values
[01:48:13] you would want, but he has
[01:48:17] ah
[01:48:19] and we'll spray venom outwards, like, at anyone who tries to even get close
[01:48:23] to us. In normal politics, which is the thing we've already forgotten
[01:48:27] who he is, what he is, the leader is supposed to be strong,
[01:48:30] but the party is supposed to be stronger than him. That is, the message the leader is supposed to convey
[01:48:34] is the Likud is here, the Likud will be here forever.
[01:48:38] It's possible that it will be me, I will be in power.
[01:48:53] weird, I'll take a lot of reservations, I'll spread rumors
[01:48:56] about who I'm reserving, who I'm not reserving, also of course based on completely superficial
[01:48:59] metrics, and not, not looking for doers, I'm looking for shiny
[01:49:03] names to decorate my list, and I also
[01:49:06] decide everything, and I also don't even need to offer a platform.
[01:49:10] Why do I need a platform? I have myself. Now, wait, wait, Ayelet, I, I'm listening to you
[01:49:14] attentively, and this whole analysis is fascinating, but I want to ask
[01:49:18] a question. You said that it's usually power, control,
[01:49:21] and I'm interested. Is the third thing also related, which is money?
[01:49:25] Why? Many people tell me, listen, they say that, for example,
[01:49:28] Netanyahu, if he goes to give lectures around the world today,
[01:49:32] they pay him crazy amounts for every
[01:49:35] lecture, and he's not so interested
[01:49:37] in it.
[01:49:40] First of all, allow me to raise an eyebrow regarding
[01:49:43] the amounts and the lectures.
[01:49:46] Yes, and secondly, you know, it's possible that money is
[01:49:49] a kind of secondary derivative. But
[01:49:57] it's also possible that he's not really interested, meaning power, control, money, not sure. It's hard for me to believe that money doesn't interest him,
[01:50:00] because you know, we see, we see that money, ah,
[01:50:04] that money does interest him, but it could be that it's really a kind
[01:50:08] of secondary goal. And by the way, money is also a kind of
[01:50:11] power. Yes, we see that he seeks power and status
[01:50:15] and strength. Money is also not when you're a civilian, then money
[01:50:19] has meaning and gives you status. But when you're
[01:50:23] a leader, then you're strong even if you don't have money personally.
[01:50:27] Right, but we have a leader who has been a public servant for many years and is
[01:50:31] still very rich, very,
[01:50:33] very much. Yes, interesting. How can we identify a narcissistic
[01:50:36] leader? That's one question. Second question, are there leaders
[01:50:40] of parties in Israel about whom you can say unequivocally that they are not
[01:50:44] narcissists?
[01:50:47] The second question is very interesting. One second. I, I'll start with the first one and then
[01:50:51] I'll start thinking. About the second one. So we can
[01:50:54] actually talk about something called narcissistic politics, okay? And we
[01:50:58] see it happening in many places around the world, not just
[01:51:02] here. And the signs of narcissistic
[01:51:05] politics, I think,
[01:51:09] we can identify them well. There is first of all such a discourse
[01:51:13] that the leader is at the center, and the leader
[01:51:15] is what matters, and when you hurt,
[01:51:19] then I want to address you, as a citizen who goes to vote. Okay?
[01:51:23] And now I want to know from all the leaders we have on
[01:51:26] the ground, so to speak, I want to vote for a certain person, and you
[01:51:30] know what? I'll actually go in the other direction so they don't say we only talked about Netanyahu. I
[01:51:34] want to know now if it's possible that Eisenkot is a narcissist, and I don't
[01:51:38] know now, but after we vote for him, we'll suddenly discover,
[01:51:41] wow, how didn't we know?
[01:51:44] Um, look, this is
[01:51:48] really, this is really a complex question, because it's really impossible
[01:51:51] to truly diagnose narcissism based on one act or
[01:51:54] one statement. It needs to be continuous patterns.
[01:51:57] So if I wanted to see if Eisenkot is a narcissist,
[01:52:00] for example, then I would really
[01:52:03] examine his conduct, I would want to see if he has
[01:52:07] relationships, how, how, how are his past relationships, does he have good
[01:52:11] friends, how do they talk about him, is he someone who is easy to work
[01:52:14] with in a team, ah, what do
[01:52:18] his subordinates say about working with him in personal
[01:52:21] circumstances? Is he a person who takes responsibility? This is something
[01:52:24] very, very essential to the identification of narcissists. Narcissists are very,
[01:52:28] very, very reluctant to take responsibility. For someone
[01:52:32] else. From their perspective, everything that succeeded is
[01:52:35] me, everything that didn't succeed, everything that didn't work, everything
[01:52:38] that is a failure, is you, it's Moshe, it's
[01:52:42] the legal advisor, it's the Gilgal. It's,
[01:52:45] no matter what, wow, something happened, it's simply not related
[01:52:49] to me. So anyway,
[01:52:58] You say, ask the people close to him, but the people close to him
[01:53:01] never see his flaws, that's
[01:53:04] the problem, and even if they do, they don't want to say.
[01:53:08] Right, I wouldn't necessarily look for his flaws, you know, I would
[01:53:11] look for the human in him. If, if, for example,
[01:53:15] I had to interview all of Eisenkot's circle,
[01:53:18] then I would ask them, tell me, when that mistake
[01:53:22] happened. And that, what did he do? Did he say it was you, or did he
[01:53:25] ah, or did he take responsibility? Did he ever
[01:53:29] say, "I made a mistake"? Did he ever say, "I made a mistake, yes, I made a mistake, I failed,
[01:53:33] I, I, I take responsibility for
[01:53:36] it"? Is he capable
[01:53:38] of like a stone? For example, the second question you asked me
[01:53:42] about which leader? So let's say I would
[01:53:45] ask, for example, I don't know, Bennett and Yair
[01:53:48] Golan? Would you, for a promise of a
[01:53:52] 20-mandate achievement, be willing to vacate the leadership
[01:53:56] of the party? If you're such an
[01:53:58] ideologue,
[01:54:01] right? So ostensibly the answer should be yes, right?
[01:54:04] The answer should be yes. The answer you have to understand
[01:54:08] that ideology comes before me. It's not fair that they only bring you for 20
[01:54:11] minutes. Right. Is narcissism in a leader
[01:54:15] necessarily a bad trait?
[01:54:19] Of course, if he doesn't take responsibility and everything is on you, of course it is. Were
[01:54:26] there excellent leaders who were narcissists, who are considered excellent leaders in history,
[01:54:30] or who are even now considered excellent leaders and are
[01:54:32] narcissists?
[01:54:35] Look, in the end, narcissists can suddenly lead their
[01:54:38] countries to incredible achievements, as long as they are
[01:54:42] like within their manic
[01:54:45] , narcissistic frenzy, I don't know, but forever
[01:54:49] he is at the center and not the citizen. Hitler, in the end,
[01:54:52] sorry for the example, led Germany
[01:54:54] to achievements. What achievements? He led it to ruin. What
[01:54:58] achievements? Not in the first years.
[01:55:01] He told them we would be an empire and we would conquer it. By the way, because
[01:55:06] he promised them things that should not be promised, in principle,
[01:55:10] that a reasonable person should have
[01:55:14] understood were not moral and also not
[01:55:17] logical. Yes. And the collapse came because
[01:55:19] also, among other things, yes, God forbid, I don't want to oversimplify
[01:55:23] this whole event, but שני, yes,
[01:55:26] we always want a leader. Our time with you is running out. How interesting.
[01:55:30] For example, I have a question that I want to ask next time:
[01:55:33] Narcissists in the media. A question
[01:55:35] I would ask you is, can a person become a narcissist
[01:55:39] as a result of
[01:55:42] becoming? I'll talk to you next time, Ayelet Shani, Haaretz journalist
[01:55:45] and author of the book Dangerous Liaisons. Thank you very much. Edited by
[01:55:49] Idit Ben Yair, produced by Guraria and Ranana Friedman, technical execution by Amir
[01:55:53] Shmueli and Alan Solomanko. Right
[01:55:56] after us, at midday, at midday with Lit Regev. Be with us
[01:56:00] for two weeks too. Thank you, Guetta. It was fun. Bye bye. Welcome back.
[01:56:04] It will be fun. It will be fun. Yes, yes,
[01:56:07] all they did was talk about Khamenei,
[01:56:11] enemies, Saturday night, on Kan 11 and Kan Box.
[01:56:25] One day David Mirossman called me, introduced himself.
[01:56:29] At first I didn't believe it was him, but then he convinced me, he said I have
[01:56:33] a song that I think will suit
[01:56:35] you.
[01:56:37] It was a very cool song, like the idea is very simple,
[01:56:41] to make a song just from stickers, that it will have all this Israeli
[01:56:45] charge, teachers' strike,
[01:56:49] like that, it's like the stickers, ah, for the first time
[01:56:52] in my life, I understand that there's a bombshell here, black gold.
[01:56:56] Third in the morning
[01:57:01] Culture reporter tomorrow, Gil the female transition has become a cultural issue.
[01:57:46] The simple second after come eat
[01:57:48] with me on Channel 11 and on Kan Box. Tomorrow
[01:57:52] on garlic, pepper and olive oil the singer-songwriter
[01:57:55] and actress Noam Kleinstein
[01:57:59] Noam, I put some subtle hints
[01:58:03] about the food you're about
[01:58:05] to get. Very subtle. We have Persian lemon here and another Persian
[01:58:09] lemon. As they say, tomorrow, the answer is already
[01:58:12] inside. That's how it all began.
[01:58:16] Four in the morning, I couldn't sleep. I'm so
[01:58:18] hot.
[01:58:21] I'm not even close. I didn't sleep. Suddenly I couldn't
[01:58:25] see
[01:58:25] their husbands.
[01:58:31] Currently.
[02:00:16] Hello everyone, good afternoon. It's 12 o'clock now, we have a news
[02:00:19] update. At the military cemetery on Mount Herzl, Major (res.)
[02:00:22] Harel Birnstock, a 34-year-old resident of Nokdim, is currently being
[02:00:26] laid to rest. He was one of two reserve soldiers who fell
[02:00:30] yesterday in southern Lebanon. Staff Sergeant Major (res.)
[02:00:34] Tamir Vaknin, a 33-year-old resident of Elad, will be trained
[02:00:37] tonight at 7:20 PM at the military cemetery in his city.
[02:00:41] May their memory be blessed. In the incident in which Harel and Tamir fell,
[02:00:45] four reserve soldiers were seriously wounded. The incident occurred
[02:00:48] yesterday around 12 noon in the village of Majdal Zoun
[02:00:51] which is located within the Israeli security zone in southern
[02:00:55] Lebanon. Reserve paratroopers will secure engineering
[02:00:58] work. They entered the.