KAN11 — - 20260920 110500 UTC 439 transcript segments Google Cloud Speech-to-Text API (Chirp) + Gemini 2.5 Flash Non-Thinking Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:00:00] In [00:00:04] Tel Aviv, the fast begins at 6:22 PM and ends at [00:00:07] 7:34 PM. In Haifa, the fast begins at 6:09 [00:00:10] PM and ends at 7:04 PM. In Beersheba, [00:00:13] it begins at 6:21 PM and ends [00:00:16] at 7:15 PM. [00:00:20] And before we finish, here's a taste of what awaits you in the Kan News edition on Monday, [00:00:23] after Yom [00:00:24] Kippur. [00:01:15] for this hour. We'll be back at 3 PM with another update. Have a quiet [00:01:19] and good rest of the day. A good final signing. Goodbye [00:01:21] for now. [00:01:35] So what do we know about Yom [00:01:36] Kippur? [00:01:40] That long before the war, with all the terrible events and awakenings [00:01:44] and failures, it was still a day of [00:01:47] atonement, a day for the soul to gather all the stains that clung to it during [00:01:51] the year. This is the day we received the Torah, after the first [00:01:54] tablets were broken. It is a day when we remember what is broken and what is whole within [00:01:58] us. [00:02:02] And the sages say that there were no days as good for Israel as Tu [00:02:05] B'Av and Yom Kippur. So on such a day, who would even think [00:02:08] of eating, or bathing, or wearing leather clothes? And what [00:02:12] can one truly enjoy? [00:02:14] It's a day when one wraps oneself in white and touches higher worlds, [00:02:18] from Kol Nidre to Ne'ila, one performs an accounting of the soul, [00:02:21] for we are like clay in the hands of the Creator, who, if He wishes, [00:02:25] lengthens, and if He wishes, [00:02:27] shortens. [00:02:47] In Jewish law, it is customary to say that there were no better days for Israel than Tu B'Av [00:02:51] and Yom Kippur. You know, that's [00:02:52] surprising. [00:02:57] What does the holiday of love have to do with the most awful day of all? [00:03:00] The awful days. But it is precisely the very deep values of Yom [00:03:03] Kippur that have made it a particularly good day, [00:03:07] and perhaps the most significant value [00:03:10] that can be done in many different and even strange ways. [00:03:55] journey of soul-searching, we went to the rabbi, and not just [00:03:59] any rabbi, Yossi, for whom every day is [00:04:02] a kind of Yom [00:04:03] Kippur. [00:04:11] First of all, this place, I often [00:04:14] seclude myself here, by myself. Every day [00:04:17] you go to the forest to seclude yourself and talk to yourself. Yes, or [00:04:20] bless, [00:04:23] speak to the Master of the Universe. Without another person around. [00:04:26] The desired practice is one hour every day. [00:04:30] Wow, you didn't get carried away. Solitude is not loneliness. [00:04:33] It's actually a state where you isolate yourself from all external [00:04:36] stimuli. There is the more central point, which is [00:04:39] soul [00:04:40] searching. [00:04:45] The soul-searching, it's also about examining where I live [00:04:49] in relation to my values. Yes, [00:04:53] am I true to what I have defined for myself [00:04:55] as worthy? And also in the sense of what I [00:04:58] yearn for. What are my longings? [00:05:02] And here in the forest, this forest is my [00:05:05] psychologist. [00:05:09] On Yom Kippur, the entire purpose of this day [00:05:12] is actually to cleanse us of the burden [00:05:15] of sin, the burden of transgression. It is actually [00:05:19] a journey of love. When I release the burden, it is [00:05:22] the anger, it is the grudges I hold against [00:05:26] all those who harmed me, it is all those I harmed and did not [00:05:30] bother to acknowledge it, even to myself, [00:05:34] even to my own [00:05:35] self. [00:05:38] There are techniques of solitude, genres of solitude. I can [00:05:42] talk about the accepted technique for organizing [00:05:46] solitude. First of all, find a place where you feel [00:05:48] comfortable, meaning that if you are in a new environment, [00:05:52] walk around a bit until you find the rock that invites you, the [00:05:55] ... the tree that feels pleasant to you. [00:05:59] After that, the first stage is to be in gratitude, [00:06:02] thanksgiving. Thanksgiving, thanksgiving. This is always relevant. How nice that I [00:06:06] am here now and cool. Not at all about the last moment, about [00:06:10] health, about... second stage. [00:06:13] It's about telling what hurts me, if there's something that hurts [00:06:17] me to talk about it, but to release it, meaning, not to stay [00:06:20] there, to acknowledge that it [00:06:22] exists, [00:06:25] desire, what I miss, what I [00:06:27] strive for, and the main [00:06:30] thing is a review of the last day or [00:06:34] last week, did I live [00:06:36] according to my values? So, [00:06:39] gratitude, pain. [00:06:42] Desire, did I live? Do you want some acronyms [00:06:45] to make it easy to remember? Go on, recognition. [00:06:49] There's a great rock here waiting for you since the six days of creation, it [00:06:53] hasn't changed much. [00:07:15] I like to think of myself as being outside the box, but I really [00:07:18] needed the letters, to go through them one by one to remember [00:07:21] the exercise and I did it systematically, and I must say [00:07:25] that... [00:07:29] Yes, I had one or two insights. You [00:07:32] know what Ashkenazim say in Yiddish, "Gmar Chatimah [00:07:36] Tova," meaning "May you be sealed for a good year." "Gmar Hasimoto Va" also sounds [00:07:40] like "May the blockages end." [00:07:53] There are people, and I am among them, who, in order to conduct a true soul-searching, [00:07:56] need external intervention, another person who talks to them on a regular [00:08:00] basis and usually for a regular fee. So what about [00:08:04] the interplay between the annual soul-searching of Yom Kippur [00:08:07] and our weekly soul-searching at the psychologist's? [00:08:11] They teach you at home. [00:08:34] Psychotherapy is based on introspection. [00:08:38] From that perspective, it is soul-searching, but soul-searching [00:08:41] that seeks change. [00:08:45] Are there those who do soul-searching more than once a year? [00:08:48] Yes, the idea of soul-searching, which is [00:08:51] central to Yom Kippur, [00:08:55] is actually quite [00:08:58] extraordinary if you think about it, because what it means is to step [00:09:01] out of the routine, to stop and reflect. [00:09:05] Now, as human beings, we do this, and when do we do it? We usually [00:09:09] do it in special situations, or... [00:09:12] when we are in a crisis and we say, "Hey, how did we get here? What's [00:09:16] going on?" Or after [00:09:19] we have gone through a difficult period, or [00:09:21] very big changes, drastic changes, then we [00:09:25] need to do it again and look. But [00:09:28] ultimately, if we want to gain something from it, even if we have reached [00:09:32] some conclusion or even if some [00:09:34] traffic light [00:09:38] has flashed for us, it requires [00:09:41] it requires some kind of process. Most things, most [00:09:44] changes are difficult to make except [00:09:46] through a process. [00:09:52] At first you feel bad and you don't know why, after that you already [00:09:56] know why, but you still feel bad, it didn't help you much [00:09:59] with the feeling, you understood, you need to change, that's, okay, you even [00:10:03] change, one of the biggest difficulties is [00:10:06] to get from the state of understanding [00:10:08] to the state of change. That's it. [00:10:12] The process of forgiveness [00:10:15] requires viewing things in a different [00:10:19] context, to see it in some [00:10:21] באיזשהו [00:10:23] way as part of a larger picture. If the moment [00:10:27] we open the picture, see it in a different context, there [00:10:30] is a chance that things will make sense that it is easier [00:10:34] to live with, that it is easier to accept [00:10:36] it. [00:10:42] What about Yom Kippur? Do you think it's effective or would you design it [00:10:45] differently? Yom Kippur, I think one [00:10:48] of its greatest aspects [00:10:51] is [00:10:54] that it comes with such a great [00:10:58] burden of tradition, just as Yom Kippur is a bubble within [00:11:01] the year, singled out, [00:11:05] treasured, neutralized, [00:11:08] and now you are with [00:11:11] yourself [00:11:13] and... as much as you can [00:11:16] disconnect from the daily routine [00:11:19] that actually distracts us from this [00:11:22] introspection. [00:11:49] this work? We talked about soul-searching that takes place within [00:11:52] the soul, or if you prefer, the mind. But this accounting can also be done [00:11:56] in the body. Thousands of Israelis got up from the couch at 40-something [00:12:00] years old, discovered that they were deteriorating or their wheels were, and started [00:12:04] running. On their way to becoming Ironmen, they realized that torturing [00:12:07] the body could actually help with soul-searching. [00:12:20] Ironman is considered the toughest competition there is. How many stages? [00:12:23] 3.8 kilometers. In Ironman, and then you ride [00:12:27] 180 kilometers. Wow. And then, for dessert, you run [00:12:30] a marathon, which is 42 kilometers. [00:12:43] In my opinion, it sometimes reminds me a bit of the coming-of-age process of an African tribe. You did [00:12:47] something, you have a stamp, and you can [00:12:57] station. [00:13:05] There's a lot, a lot, a lot of mental work involved, [00:13:09] a lot. It also adds to the soul when you truly [00:13:12] overcome things, but often you find [00:13:15] answers to all sorts of questions that really bother you. Like, [00:13:18] you think, if I deal with this here, later I'm sure I'll deal with [00:13:22] problems I have outside of this. This sport [00:13:25] I think this sport replaces a psychologist, and every time I was a little [00:13:29] nervous at home, I would tell the girls, "I'm going for a run." I would come back and they'd say, "Mom, you're [00:13:32] calm, everything's wonderful." I would come back with a smile from ear to ear. Why do people [00:13:36] generally start at age 45 or something? Why do they start? But usually [00:13:40] what happens with most people in this field is that they start and say, "Okay, I [00:13:43] want to do 10 kilometers." And that's fine. Then they get to, "I [00:13:47] want to do a half marathon." "I want to do a marathon." And slowly [00:13:50] but surely, the goals become higher [00:13:52] and higher. I ... I actually sat with my wife and told [00:13:56] her, "At age 40, I'm giving myself the gift of doing my first [00:14:00] Ironman." And that's it. From there, I actually started [00:14:04] with 40-something kilos more than I weigh today. There are several reasons why people enter [00:14:08] this world. One of them is indeed some kind of crisis or crises they go through in their 30s [00:14:11] or, more commonly, in their 40s, when people have more or less settled [00:14:15] down and suddenly they open their eyes and see that there's a very [00:14:19] big challenge here. There are things here that are related to the competitive [00:14:22] drive. There's a communal [00:14:25] aspect. [00:14:28] If you go into almost any settlement, from a village, kibbutz, moshav, [00:14:32] city, you'll see people running. The issue of running [00:14:35] in Israel and cycling started recently. Today it's already part [00:14:38] of a healthy lifestyle. Today there are about 300 [00:14:41] thousand people who run. And they [00:14:44] run regularly. It's very Israeli. This [00:14:48] desire to be seen, to be heroes, perhaps also [00:14:51] from the army and all the, meaning, to do the impossible. And everyone says how much. [00:14:59] Israelis love extremes, beautiful. Israelis very quickly [00:15:02] go from running in the neighborhood to [00:15:04] doing a marathon. [00:15:08] We all grapple with and perform soul-searching, but there are people who turn [00:15:12] this accounting into a profession. Hey, Hagit? I'm not talking about [00:15:16] mathematics, but about poetry. The poet Hagit [00:15:19] Grossman defines her work as a daily ledger of [00:15:23] the soul. A ledger that... [00:15:28] You write poems on a typewriter or write on a typewriter, that's [00:15:31] the Musa's machine? Wow. Yes. [00:15:34] I have a collection, but this one he, the Musa, gave [00:15:38] me. He, he wrote "Black Box" on it. What do you [00:15:41] say? I have all sorts of things, there's a whole [00:15:45] collection here. Humanity survived thanks [00:15:48] to words, thanks to language. Therefore, the master [00:15:51] of language has a very, very essential role [00:15:55] among people in the world. [00:15:59] Do you want to try writing? Yes, do you see these Hebrew letters? [00:16:03] How can one give up this? What [00:16:06] happened? Where's the period? [00:16:09] Here? [00:16:12] Yes, luckily. How long, since what age have you been writing poetry? Let's say? I [00:16:16] was simply 14 and they wanted me to have a profession. [00:16:19] They put me in a school with a classroom full of these machines. [00:16:23] And they told me that I needed to be a secretary. So [00:16:27] my dad bought me a typewriter. [00:16:30] And I just sat and wrote poems. [00:16:33] And when I got bored, I went to the library and read Davolach and Yehuda. [00:16:37] My life, so they, they pretty much saved me, they really saved [00:16:40] me. [00:16:45] I wrote my first poem at age six, and it was published in the [00:16:49] school newspaper. Beautiful, instant [00:16:51] success. There is no success [00:16:54] for poets. Poets don't know what success is. [00:16:57] They, they don't have the absorptive material that absorbs [00:17:01] it. Like, what's missing headlines? No, not headlines, [00:17:04] love. Poets are suckers for love. [00:17:12] What is the place of soul-searching in the life of a [00:17:16] poet? [00:17:18] I think that writing is a delay of [00:17:22] the soul. I think that's one of the reasons I need [00:17:25] to do it. Writing must be [00:17:29] daily, because the soul changes so much, and everything [00:17:32] is in the soul. The soul is the essence of the matter. If you don't follow [00:17:36] your soul. You are liable to get lost [00:17:39] and erased. That's why once a year there is this in Judaism, which is a very [00:17:43] wise thing, to actually do soul-searching. It's a time when you stop [00:17:46] and think about the soul. Now there's a lot of food [00:17:49] for thought here, because the soul is always [00:17:52] suffering. [00:17:56] There is another parallel dimension, [00:17:59] and in it I am who I am [00:18:03] and I have not lost myself, stop me, and the words [00:18:06] I wrote are not detached from a spiritual [00:18:09] realm, and I can sit and write directly [00:18:13] from within me, and I am connected to the words in a serious [00:18:16] bond, that they are from a seed I planted, [00:18:20] and they are original and good for expressing my [00:18:23] truth, and I am not disturbed by tasks given to me, [00:18:27] and I do not lose my way, but go [00:18:30] astray to find new territories [00:18:32] and stretch boundaries and invent a true [00:18:35] reflection of myself. [00:18:41] Soul-searching is a difficult thing in itself, but there [00:18:44] are those who take their insights from soul-searching and implement them [00:18:48] practically, not only on themselves, but also on [00:18:50] their surroundings. Benny Lipschitz was for years a chef who worked with the greatest [00:18:54] chefs in the country, but his soul-searching took him to a completely [00:18:58] different side of the food [00:19:12] I was looking for something, meaning, as a chef, growing [00:19:16] vegetables seemed very [00:19:18] natural to me. [00:19:20] This is Kedron's edible forest plot. The entire [00:19:24] place has been around for six, seven years. What [00:19:26] is the purpose of this forest? The purpose of this [00:19:30] forest is to actually be relevant to the times. Meaning, if we are [00:19:34] in a time of water crisis, food crisis. [00:19:37] that are eroding, imagined hunger, and [00:19:41] many other problems of environmental pollution, [00:19:45] then ecological agriculture is the immediate [00:19:48] response. What's wrong with conventional agriculture? There's nothing wrong [00:19:51] with conventional agriculture, but you're correcting, I'm not [00:19:54] just laughing. [00:20:00] Conventional agriculture [00:20:03] provides an enormous amount of food, that's [00:20:06] true. But the environmental and human [00:20:10] cost is enormous. That is, [00:20:13] uh, the introduction of very toxic substances into the soil, [00:20:16] and the creation of food of very, very low quality. That is, [00:20:20] the final result is really something that may [00:20:23] look beautiful to the eye, but the value of [00:20:26] these vegetables is very low and their environmental cost is very, [00:20:30] very high. Specifically, here, every gram [00:20:33] that comes out of this field and someone eats it is better than any other gram [00:20:37] that comes from conventional farming. This is non-violent protest, it's undermining [00:20:41] the system. The system doesn't want you to grow your own [00:20:44] food and save on intermediaries, and save on [00:20:47] taxes. [00:20:53] We are not growing vegetables here, I know it looks like it, [00:20:57] but actually what we are growing here is soil. Meaning, even if I identify [00:21:01] some problem in the plant, yes, I don't treat [00:21:04] the problem on the plant surgically, but I first go down to the soil and check what [00:21:08] is happening there. Yes, these are the lives that occur between the soil [00:21:11] and the mulch. These are the meaningful lives. That's where [00:21:14] digestion happens, the decomposition of organic materials [00:21:17] and the nourishment of the plants. [00:21:21] I was involved in cooking [00:21:24] for a good number of years and enjoyed it [00:21:27] very much. I don't know what happened, but something happened, [00:21:30] and I found myself unable [00:21:33] to do it anymore. Unable to go to restaurants anymore, unable [00:21:37] to deal with customers anymore, unable [00:21:40] to lose health for food that is [00:21:44] not nourishment, it's just food, like it lost all proportion, [00:21:47] like the hedonism in it actually. In my opinion, [00:21:50] it got out of control, and if our cultural heroes today are chefs, [00:21:54] we are in a very, very difficult situation. You had to fix the foundation? [00:21:58] You worked at the end of the path? You wanted to come work [00:22:01] at the beginning of the... I returned to that root. Yes, not [00:22:05] to make any kind of correction. I did terrible [00:22:08] things. Almost every possible animal passed under my [00:22:10] knife. I didn't see it. I didn't see it. [00:22:14] I was, what did you see? That. Meaning, I was immersed [00:22:18] in work. Yes, for me it was. Raw material, everything [00:22:21] is legitimate. You can't force a person, ah, not [00:22:25] veganism nor any worldview. He needs to. Now you [00:22:28] are vegan. I have been vegan for eight years, seven years. [00:22:32] Ah, this is the minimum. I won't succeed in changing [00:22:35] big things in the world, but here within this small [00:22:38] compound, I feel that I am doing something right [00:22:41] and good. [00:22:46] Environmental soul-searching can be done on land and also in the sea. [00:22:50] When an industrial designer, who is also an avid diver, saw with his own [00:22:54] eyes the corals in the Gulf of Eilat being destroyed, he [00:22:57] decided to harness science and art to give back to nature [00:23:28] enormous gravitational pull, and much of our future lies there. I believe the next [00:23:32] decade will be about this place and this [00:23:34] resource. [00:23:37] The beauty underwater is indescribable. On the other hand, [00:23:41] the pain felt when seeing [00:24:03] Why do we need an artificial reef? What about the natural reef? Isn't it artificial? It could be [00:24:07] that this is a type of artificial environment [00:24:11] where the speed at which it can be created and the solution it can [00:24:14] provide is completely different from [00:24:17] something natural. [00:24:22] The printer is now entering a sequence of printing [00:24:25] operations. It is actually one of the largest [00:24:28] of its kind. It was purchased for this research, [00:24:31] in fact, and was built here specifically for [00:24:35] this purpose. And so we will print coral, [00:24:39] artificial coral that will then settle in its new home [00:24:41] in Eilat. [00:24:51] And what's happening in the water? A few weeks ago, we placed [00:24:54] a pole several meters high, covered with many, many [00:24:58] models like these, of all sizes, with all sorts of intermediate chains. [00:25:02] We protected it, we put up signs. [00:25:05] I received an update from Asa, a diving update. Well, there are still [00:25:09] no breaks. After we arrived, we saw two fish pecking at the facilities. [00:25:13] There are already quite a few, the number of fish increased, the number of species [00:25:16] did not. Pictures will be uploaded tomorrow to Dropbox. Amazing. [00:25:25] But this is a shape that exists in the sea anyway. No, no, [00:25:28] but what we are trying to do here is to combine [00:25:31] chaos on the one hand, and on the other hand, to take [00:25:34] into account parameters, spaces and complexities that address [00:25:38] specific creatures precisely [00:25:41] according to our measurements and observations. Large fish, small [00:25:44] fish, medium fish actually get their home. [00:25:48] Isn't it a bit cheeky of them to be even better than coral? [00:25:52] Cheeky? I think it's perhaps even cheekier to just [00:25:55] copy [00:25:56] nature. [00:26:01] Don't you have that kind of feeling? Very, very personal, that you feel bad about these corals and you want to do [00:26:23] we know how to do into this place of [00:26:27] improving, changing, fixing, and this is done, as it's called, [00:26:30] with fear and trembling, not with audacity. And not out of a thought that we know [00:26:34] everything, but truly out of curiosity and a sincere desire to do [00:29:09] Nordia Jerusalem was founded by die-hard fans of Beitar Jerusalem [00:29:13] who could no longer tolerate the racism that was spreading [00:29:15] in the stands. [00:29:18] For me, this is a story and a completely personal [00:29:47] the fans and that thing about someone who maybe won. You won [00:29:51] everything with me. People like you who we sat with all evening [00:29:55] and said, "Forget it, forget it, it's not [00:29:58] going to happen, it's not going to happen." [00:30:09] What is Beitar Nordia Jerusalem? Nordia, Max [00:30:12] Nordau, the muscular Jewry, the beginning [00:30:15] of Zionism, to create the new Jew [00:30:18] in the Land of Israel. We are the only team in the world [00:30:22] that rose up against racism and against criminality. There is no such [00:30:25] thing. [00:30:29] We are talking about the Arkadymak era, and within. The strange [00:30:33] relationship that Arkadymak had with the world and with [00:30:36] Beitar, two Muslim Chechen players were signed here, [00:30:39] and the fans literally burned down the club, threw stones [00:30:42] at the captain, and went to Kornefain's house [00:30:46] and made his life miserable, and simply put [00:30:50] the ideology of some of them above [00:30:54] the club and took the club to the brink of disaster. What [00:30:57] ideology? Beitar's [00:31:00] ideology. [00:31:07] I was at Teddy, I was at Teddy with the friends who eventually [00:31:10] together founded Nordia, and we were there in the eastern stand. [00:31:15] And we tried to cheer and they whistled at us like [00:31:18] that behind our ears and didn't allow us, and that's [00:31:22] when it was time to take, fold the scarf that always sat at the entrance to the house, [00:31:25] fold it and push it inside, and then Beitar was over. I [00:31:29] think most Beitar fans have a crack [00:31:32] in their footballing soul, and it's all complicated [00:31:36] relationships. To be a Beitar fan all your life is to be in soul-searching. You [00:31:39] left Beitar and you are still continuing this soul-searching of what brought me there, [00:31:43] where am I going next? When you were a "Nody" (outsider), you were at the height of the Lions' Den. The first [00:31:47] fan group that was founded by about 15-20 people, and I was [00:31:50] there too. Ah, they called it the Lions' Den, and that was actually the first [00:31:54] time to unite the crowd. So there was this [00:31:58] "Ten Commandments" of the Lions' Den, and the "Ten Commandments" of the Lions' Den [00:32:01] was without racism. [00:32:05] Eli Yohan, the king, if you read him, you're like, "Boom, boom, [00:32:09] boom, boom, Nordia, one, one." And then suddenly came the generation [00:32:13] that would later become the leaders of La Familia. And then I remember there was specifically some [00:32:17] incident where I made some sign and they told me if you hang [00:32:20] it up, like, they'll beat you up. I hung it up, and then the game was against [00:32:23] Hapoel Kfar Saba at Teddy. Three guys grabbed [00:32:27] me in a way like, "Come on, we just want to talk to you." They took me aside, put a [00:32:31] knife to my stomach and told me, "If you come to the next game, we'll stab [00:32:34] you." [00:32:43] I think Nordia in the end becomes. Apropos soul-searching, it [00:32:46] will be, no matter what happens, Nordia is [00:32:50] eternal, because it is the resistance movement of Beitar [00:32:53] fans against racism and criminality, and this thing is [00:32:57] forever. [00:33:04] So Yom Kippur is perhaps perceived as the most religious day of the year, but it managed [00:33:08] to defend a human and universal principle that has [00:33:10] no substitute. A person needs to conduct soul-searching with themselves on a regular [00:33:14] and ongoing basis. To give up the excuses, the narrow-mindedness, the [00:33:18] self-deceptions, and to practice a piece of Yom Kippur [00:33:21] even outside the High Holy Days.