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[00:00:00] דבל על הכסף, תחרות ריאליטי חדשה, הערב
[00:00:04] אחרי החדשות, בקאן 11 ובקן בוקס.
[00:00:18] שלום לכם, בוקר, אנחנו עם עדכון החדשות לשעה שמונה ופותחים בפרשת
[00:00:22] שחיטות חמורה, כפי שמגדירה אותה המשטרה, ראש אירייה במרכז,
[00:00:26] נאצר עם עוד 23 חשודים, רובסקי, אתה
[00:00:29] מצטרף. לנו עם כל הפרטים שאפשר להגיד.
[00:00:33] פרשיית שחיטות רחבת היקף בעירייה במרכז. ראש
[00:00:36] on suspicion of bribery. Along with him,
[00:00:40] 23 other suspects were arrested and detained, including officials
[00:00:43] and municipality employees and businessmen. The suspicion is that in exchange
[00:00:46] for bribery money that was mainly transferred in cash, the head
[00:00:49] of the authority and the CEO of the economic company, with unusual involvement
[00:00:53] of the head of the authority's wife, acted to ensure the bribers won
[00:00:55] tenders and positions in the local
[00:00:58] authority. The investigation uncovered the involvement of known criminal elements
[00:01:02] in the center of the country in the bribery mechanism in exchange for winning
[00:01:05] tenders and also in committing violent
[00:01:08] offenses. The investigation is being conducted by Unit 433.
[00:01:11] Runovsky, thank you. We are
[00:01:15] 15 days from the elections. A Kan News poll indicates
[00:01:19] a turnaround in the bloc alignment. Netanyahu's bloc leads. Yaara Shapira,
[00:01:22] our correspondent, we are with you with all the data and implications.
[00:01:25] Yaara, yes, Keren, Netanyahu's bloc stands
[00:01:28] at 53 seats in this poll and overtakes Gantz's
[00:01:32] bloc. This happens as Gantz himself drops
[00:01:35] to 22 seats.
[00:01:38] Ben-Gvir, despite all the attacks on him, passes
[00:01:41] the electoral threshold. Perhaps we should say because of all the attacks
[00:01:45] on him, and the public prominence he gains, under the patronage of the Likud's
[00:01:49] attacks, it is possible that the Likud's calculation here was a mistaken calculation
[00:01:52] regarding Ofer Ben-Gvir, and in any case, these are
[00:01:56] figures that the Likud is happy with.
[00:02:01] Subject to the question of whether
[00:02:04] or not Ben-Gvir is considered part of the bloc? Thank you,
[00:02:07] Yaara. Yonatan Orich, an aide to Prime Minister Netanyahu, whose WhatsApp
[00:02:11] account was hacked, a new site that went online threatens
[00:02:15] to expose his private correspondence, allegedly with close associates. The publication comes
[00:02:19] two weeks after it was revealed that Shimon connected his account
[00:02:22] to a management service from the United Arab Emirates. Orich's lawyer
[00:02:25] will take steps against the hacker and against anyone
[00:02:29] who publishes information
[00:02:31] from the correspondence.
[00:02:34] The Joint List will settle for a general agreement on a political
[00:02:37] horizon with the Palestinians as the sole political condition
[00:02:41] for external support for the future government. This is a report by Yaara Shapira.
[00:02:45] The other demands are civilian: cancellation of the "Mini Law," fighting crime,
[00:02:48] and education budgets. In the change bloc, these demands are not ruled out
[00:02:52] outright, but some parties simply refuse to conduct negotiations with the Joint
[00:02:56] List. And meanwhile, the former Prime Minister,
[00:03:01] who caused a stir in the change bloc when he said he had no problem with Netanyahu
[00:03:04] serving as minister in his government, if he accepts its principles, including
[00:03:08] a state commission of inquiry and conscription for all, retracts.
[00:03:12] Gantz, Liberman, and Yair Golan strongly objected. Hours later,
[00:03:16] Ben-Gvir clarified that he would not sit with Netanyahu in any government
[00:03:19] and would hold him responsible for the October
[00:03:22] 7th massacre.
[00:03:25] From here to the Kan News scoop, Israel has allowed an American company, on behalf of the Peace
[00:03:28] Council, to enter the Gaza Strip in the coming days
[00:03:32] to begin the demilitarization of the Strip. Itai Blumenthal, you're joining us. This is your exclusive
[00:03:35] Itai. That's right, Keren. Israel has allowed
[00:03:38] an American company on behalf of the Peace Council to enter the Gaza Strip
[00:03:42] in the coming days to map two or three
[00:03:45] areas where Hamas can hand over its weapons
[00:03:49] for destruction. This is considered one of the most significant
[00:03:53] steps in the Gaza Strip related
[00:03:55] to reconstruction. Reconstruction, from Israel's perspective, will only happen after
[00:03:58] Hamas disarms and the Gaza Strip
[00:04:02] is demilitarized. According to the details we published yesterday
[00:04:04] in the edition, the American team members will enter the southern
[00:04:08] Strip, the Khan Yunis and Rafah areas, areas that are currently
[00:04:12] under Israeli control, where they are trying to build a mechanism
[00:04:15] so that those terrorists, armed individuals, will come
[00:04:18] to those areas with their weapons, on the one hand, they will arrive there relatively
[00:04:22] safely, and on the other hand, they will not pose a threat or
[00:04:26] risk to the IDF forces deployed
[00:04:29] within the Strip. And it should be remembered, according to the major Peace Council's plan,
[00:04:32] only after Hamas disarms, at
[00:04:36] least in a certain area, only then will IDF forces gradually
[00:04:39] withdraw, and the technocratic council
[00:04:42] will gain control of the area. A senior
[00:04:45] Israeli official tells us that Israel is working with
[00:04:48] the Americans. On the one hand, there is great pessimism
[00:04:51] that Hamas will actually agree to disarm, even though
[00:04:54] outwardly it tries to show that it is moving
[00:04:57] in that direction. And in Israel, they say, "We are doing everything
[00:05:01] to abide by the agreements. We are working with the Americans,
[00:05:04] and in the end, it is likely that Hamas, not Israel,
[00:05:08] will thwart the plan." Itai,
[00:05:11] thank you very much. Here, we are finishing this update now. Assaf Lieberman
[00:05:14] and Roy Sharon. We will return with another update at 9 o'clock. Goodbye
[00:05:18] for now.
[00:05:27] Tonight on the Hot Quiz, a combination of Maccabi Haifa and a discharged soldier
[00:05:31] who just returned from her big trip. All three will try to become the king or queen of our Hot Quiz,
[00:05:35] which is not an easy task at all, as we have seen, but with a little
[00:05:38] strategy, a little speed, and you too are on your way to the crown. Collect the...
[00:06:37] in the headlines, what Cheshvan is like the mayor's wife, right.
[00:06:40] העיר, ראייט.
[00:06:48] What are the headlines? Are you in the headlines? Yes, yesterday our friend
[00:06:52] and colleague, Avish Grintzay published
[00:06:54] on i24,
[00:06:56] ah, he is dealing with you and you are kind of praising him.
[00:07:00] Yes, he published some correspondence
[00:07:03] between another correspondence between Eddie
[00:07:06] Flatstein and Yonatan Orich, about
[00:07:09] the story of Qatar, ah, which. We
[00:07:12] know that aides in the Prime Minister's Office worked for
[00:07:15] that country, and there is a complex country,
[00:07:18] yes, and then according to his publication
[00:07:22] he brought correspondence between
[00:07:25] Flatstein who tells the office staff how he
[00:07:28] managed to insert a nice headline here first publication now he did not
[00:07:32] mention my name to his credit and here you are revealing for the first time that it's about you
[00:07:35] yes because anyone who googles it and types this headline
[00:07:38] that the Americans that the Americans asked
[00:07:41] Qatar. That the funeral of Anya who is under the protection
[00:07:44] of Israel in Iran the Americans asked Qatar that the funeral of Ismail
[00:07:48] I, yes, take place in Qatar and not
[00:07:51] in Iran ah and Qatar agreed to the
[00:07:55] American request so what was behind the scenes if it's already exposed it's
[00:07:59] not customary to expose all sorts of behind-the-scenes stories our relations
[00:08:02] with sources and all but here the story was exposed so what really happened
[00:08:06] I say it with pride not because
[00:08:09] what happened let's just say until now we saw and Grintz'.
[00:08:12] Your friend, ah, published it in a very
[00:08:15] ah, extensive, and embarrassing way,
[00:08:19] that journalists just regurgitated everything that Flatstein
[00:08:23] gave them, because they saw him as a reliable source, allegedly
[00:08:26] a spokesman for the Prime Minister, and many of those publications actually
[00:08:30] turned out to be fake, unreal, as they called it,
[00:08:34] an invention by Sharol Kinorn, the one who
[00:08:36] works in Serbia, by Flatstein or Orich or someone, yes, they sit,
[00:08:40] imagined all sorts of scenarios that could have happened. And then told
[00:08:43] people like Roi Sharon, say
[00:08:46] that the Americans are angry with the Egyptians and really
[00:08:50] like the Qataris, all sorts of things like that, and then what?
[00:08:53] And here you are giving him a masterclass Roi, of what a journalist
[00:08:57] should do in such situations, yes, I'll say it in
[00:09:00] a word, but what really happened is that this information came
[00:09:04] to me from Mr. Flatstein, and then I turned to our excellent political
[00:09:08] correspondent, Gili Cohen, and I said to her, this story came
[00:09:12] out. Not some big scoop, not some Pulitzer, but it can be mentioned
[00:09:15] in one of the stripes, one of the paragraphs in the evening edition
[00:09:19] about the funeral event, but let's check, but let's check this
[00:09:23] information, let's cross-reference, even though it's from a spokesman from the Prime
[00:09:27] Minister's Office, you supposedly I can even
[00:09:30] say good, you get information from the Prime Minister's Office, you can't always cross-reference
[00:09:34] it, because he's really exposed to a lot of secret information, we checked this information,
[00:09:38] Gili Cohen checked it with her sources, who could
[00:09:41] be Americans. Could be Qataris, ah, and after
[00:09:44] an hour or two she came back to me and told me, indeed
[00:09:47] the information is correct.
[00:09:50] Indeed, the information was broadcast, and then it's okay for them to boast that they managed
[00:09:54] to get a headline into the main news with the correct information, you know, it's
[00:09:58] enjoyable and not lacking, he did his
[00:10:00] job.
[00:10:02] He served whoever pays his salary, yes, whoever pays his
[00:10:05] salary, you got a story that is true, yes, no
[00:10:08] problem. These relationships also with the external parties who get paid for it. This
[00:10:12] is a relationship that is accepted in the media
[00:10:16] as long as this information is indeed correct, ah, what is sad here
[00:10:20] is that among other things, okay, there are sadder things than that,
[00:10:23] but when you get a story
[00:10:26] from the Prime Minister's spokesperson. And you need to cross-reference it, because it
[00:10:30] really turned out that there were many such publications, many, so-called
[00:10:33] leaks, but inventions of untrue stories,
[00:10:37] that came out of the Prime Minister's Office and reached broadcast, as if
[00:10:41] it was solid information. Here there are two issues, here he doesn't tell you, I tell you
[00:10:44] on behalf of Netanyahu that such and such, he says
[00:10:47] the Americans asked the Qataris, which
[00:10:50] allegedly does not concern his job,
[00:10:54] he uses his hat
[00:10:58] because he sits in the Prime Minister's Office, it is a place exposed to a lot of
[00:11:02] information, not just things related, but when you talk to
[00:11:04] Flatstein, Eli Flatstein, yes, what
[00:11:08] is he to you? The Prime Minister's spokesman, he is the Prime Minister's spokesman, yes,
[00:11:12] he was the Prime Minister's spokesman during the war. It was published at the beginning of the war
[00:11:16] that he was said to be a spokesman for military reporters or something like that,
[00:11:20] ah, and therefore he, I don't know if it was really limited to military reporters, probably
[00:11:23] not according to you. We had a conversation with Sharol Kinorn's
[00:11:27] lawyer a few months ago, when all
[00:11:30] this story really made headlines, and then he said, "Journalists are to blame,
[00:11:34] they didn't ask at any given moment the
[00:11:38] person they were talking to, on whose behalf he was speaking."
[00:11:41] The person works in the Prime Minister's Office, he is the Prime Minister's
[00:11:44] spokesman, he briefs, he connects you to the Prime Minister,
[00:11:48] sometimes that also happened. So you know
[00:11:51] that you are getting information from the source, you don't always. You
[00:11:55] don't even really have the tools to check it. Here, in such cases, there really
[00:11:59] was an opportunity, and that's what we did, we checked, we cross-referenced it with
[00:12:02] the Qataris or with the Americans, Gili Cohen cross-referenced it
[00:12:05] and came back, and the information was indeed correct. But sometimes you
[00:12:09] get information that only the Prime Minister and I don't know, and the Head
[00:12:12] of the Mossad are privy to, and here you have no way to check it. Who
[00:12:16] will you call, the Head of a Mossad department? You don't. You have the Prime Minister's spokesman, allegedly you
[00:12:19] are supposed to trust him. That's not the situation in our days.
[00:12:23] This is the beginning
[00:12:28] of the leaks scandal in the last
[00:12:30] 24 hours. There were here, we will talk, we will talk
[00:12:34] in the coming hour
[00:12:36] about the leak, the publication of the correspondence,
[00:12:40] allegedly, we need to say allegedly because you don't know if it's
[00:12:44] really 100% of what
[00:12:47] Yonatan Orich corresponded with his people,
[00:12:50] his friends, his close associates, his colleagues. You also don't know
[00:12:54] what
[00:12:55] the was done to it along the way, but we will talk
[00:12:57] about this leak with someone who knows
[00:13:02] mechanism, the mechanism of all these things that I already really feel
[00:13:06] old about, because the technology just arrived and I already feel old
[00:13:08] about it, because I need to explain to you how an AI agent works
[00:13:12] that takes over your WhatsApp when you give it access to it, and then suddenly
[00:13:15] all your conversations are on the internet. Yes,
[00:13:19] I'm looking for a leak, by the way, for anyone who has it, what was that boom on Saturday
[00:13:22] night at the Northern Command? There was
[00:13:26] some unidentified object there, the warning systems
[00:13:30] were activated, and there's even documentation of it that
[00:13:33] looks like something between bags, balloons, an alien,
[00:13:37] a flying saucer, I don't know, and until now they haven't been able to figure it out,
[00:13:41] what is this thing. Anyone who has an idea, anyone who has
[00:13:44] information, is welcome to contact us and gladly, good, and soon
[00:13:48] we'll also be with Rubsky who brought details about
[00:13:51] the arrest of a mayor
[00:13:53] from the center suspected of things that mayors
[00:13:56] are usually suspected of, ah, we won't say who it is, but
[00:14:00] good, let's go to politics, in a moment, the elections,
[00:14:03] the polls indicate a continuous,
[00:14:06] interesting trend of weakening, what is called
[00:14:10] the Gantz bloc and strengthening, what is called the Netanyahu
[00:14:13] bloc. Two pollsters with us, Shmuel
[00:14:17] Rosner, from the "Hamadad" website and a pollster for Channel 13 News, hello
[00:14:20] Rosner, hello good morning, and Dudi Hassid, our pollster here
[00:14:23] for Kan News with. A poll that indicates
[00:14:27] for the first time with you, right, Dudi, for the first time Netanyahu's
[00:14:31] bloc overtakes Gantz's bloc.
[00:14:34] Ah, yes, right, good morning. How many?
[00:14:38] 53 seats for Netanyahu's
[00:14:40] bloc and 50 for Gantz's bloc
[00:14:44] in the last poll. Again, it needs
[00:14:47] to be said, the difference between this and previous
[00:14:50] polls we saw is mainly
[00:14:53] the transition of Ben-Gvir.
[00:14:57] And in this situation, Netanyahu's bloc wins two seats,
[00:15:00] that's actually the big difference from our last poll. In our last
[00:15:04] poll, Ben-Gvir was not in the Knesset
[00:15:07] before, not the one from yesterday, the previous one, yes, yes, the previous one
[00:15:11] wasn't there, and then this change leads us to a situation
[00:15:15] where there is an advantage for the coalition
[00:15:18] bloc in this matter, of course, very fragile
[00:15:21] due to the differences in the parties that are below
[00:15:25] and above the electoral threshold, the two main parties. Wait, what was the word you used?
[00:15:29] Fragile. Fragile, yes, because
[00:15:33] after all, if I see Ben-Gvir is currently
[00:15:35] at
[00:15:37] 3.3%, and the electoral threshold is
[00:15:40] 3.25, we need to treat these things
[00:15:43] with caution, and generally for parties that are at four and even five
[00:15:47] seats. Wait, what happens then if Ben-Gvir doesn't pass the electoral threshold, if
[00:15:50] the 3.3 turns out
[00:15:52] to be 3.24?
[00:15:56] Then we would return to the situation we saw last time of 52
[00:16:00] 51 in favor, which is
[00:16:02] about two people, let's say two or three people who participated in your
[00:16:06] poll, exactly, it's not exactly like that,
[00:16:09] but yes, it's a relatively small change. Wait, Eden
[00:16:12] and Zliha, in which bloc do you count them?
[00:16:16] You count them, meaning when I say you, I mean the media in general,
[00:16:20] count them outside the blocs. If we were to put
[00:16:23] them inside Gantz's bloc, then of course the picture changes, and they pass in yesterday's
[00:16:27] poll, yes, they pass. Rosner, how is it
[00:16:30] with you?
[00:16:33] My last poll was last Wednesday and it's quite similar
[00:16:37] to Dudi's poll from yesterday with some differences.
[00:16:41] With us, the gap was 55-50.
[00:16:44] Ben-Gvir passed the electoral threshold but Hendel and Zliha did not
[00:16:48] pass the electoral threshold and there is also a consistent
[00:16:51] gap between our polls for several
[00:16:55] weeks that we give a bit more
[00:16:57] seats to the bloc of Arab parties than
[00:17:01] what happens in the polls of
[00:17:03] Kan, but beyond that, I think. The picture overall is
[00:17:07] a very similar picture in both polls, there is close
[00:17:10] to equality between the two large parties,
[00:17:13] both of which, by the way, are not very large, meaning both are in the range
[00:17:16] of 20 or 20-something seats, so these are the two
[00:17:20] main parties and they are quite close, the two blocs are quite
[00:17:23] close right now, both with us and with Dudi, with
[00:17:27] a slight advantage for the coalition, two
[00:17:30] parties on the verge of the electoral threshold that sometimes pass
[00:17:33] and sometimes don't pass, take all of this together
[00:17:36] and the picture that emerges is a very
[00:17:40] clear picture and I would say for several weeks now it's also
[00:17:44] quite stable. How
[00:17:46] do you explain the rise of Ben-Gvir? Is it possible that the campaign
[00:17:50] that Netanyahu is waging against him actually strengthens him among a certain
[00:17:53] base? Listen, I don't know if it's a rise or not a rise,
[00:17:57] meaning we see Ben-Gvir rising and falling below the electoral
[00:18:01] threshold week after week and poll after poll, sometimes
[00:18:04] more, sometimes less. It's possible that in fact. All the time
[00:18:08] in the same situation that we attribute all sorts
[00:18:11] of interpretations to, but in fact it's a party
[00:18:14] that is close to the electoral threshold, and therefore by virtue
[00:18:17] of the statistical noise of sampling in polls, it sometimes
[00:18:21] passes the electoral threshold and sometimes falls below the electoral threshold. I'm
[00:18:25] not sure that this reflects any major trends
[00:18:28] related to what Netanyahu says or what he says or whether people tell him
[00:18:32] to leave or not to leave. This is, again, these are
[00:18:35] things we want to attribute meaning to numbers, but
[00:18:39] sometimes numbers have no meaning, sometimes there's just a party, it's somewhere
[00:18:43] between 2.5%
[00:18:45] and 5%, and sometimes it's a little more and sometimes it's
[00:18:49] a little less, and so it will be on election day, either it will pass or it
[00:18:53] won't pass. From your experience when there were polls
[00:18:56] in previous election campaigns, parties that wavered a little
[00:19:00] above and a little below the electoral threshold, what was their fate
[00:19:03] in the end in the actual results? Usually it must be said.
[00:19:08] They did not pass, since the electoral threshold is
[00:19:10] 3.25, I think that the new
[00:19:14] small party, at least, that passed
[00:19:17] was Kulanu of Kahlon
[00:19:21] and in all other cases, yes,
[00:19:24] and in all other places, in all other situations,
[00:19:27] almost the small party, the small party of Bennett that
[00:19:31] when he led it, became prime minister with six seats, yes, ah, right, right,
[00:19:35] okay, that was really, but we also had. In a sense
[00:19:47] the small parties tend to suffer, at least since
[00:19:51] the electoral threshold is so high.
[00:19:54] Explain for a moment, in recent months, what we see in
[00:19:58] this last poll by Dudi
[00:20:01] that was hailed as a turnaround in favor of Netanyahu, what actually happened here? What
[00:20:05] happened in recent months? Weakened?
[00:20:16] So we're talking about orders of magnitude of
[00:20:20] 13 to 15
[00:20:23] seats added to the count, two parties that pass,
[00:20:27] and the change that happened with the Arab parties, so there's a debate
[00:20:31] exactly how much that is and who passes and who doesn't pass, but in the end these are
[00:20:35] the numbers that.
[00:20:46] At least three more mandates, say four.
[00:20:50] Average, let's start looking at it, we understand
[00:20:53] that there's a numerical amount that has been included,
[00:20:56] that has been included in our calculation, so there are also
[00:20:59] technical issues within this thing, I'm trying to understand
[00:21:03] why there's a lot of talk now.
[00:21:06] The interpretive spirit of political commentators is to say it's
[00:21:09] a laugh at Gantz's campaign or at Gantz's non-campaign,
[00:21:13] they don't control the agenda, they don't see him, they're
[00:21:16] playing defensively, it's possible nothing happened.
[00:21:20] That simply what happened is not that Netanyahu's bloc is strengthening, but rather
[00:21:23] that people outside Gantz's bloc suddenly
[00:21:26] appeared. First of all, Netanyahu's bloc is not strengthening much,
[00:21:30] we showed it with 53 and 54 seats also
[00:21:33] two months ago, yes, strengthening
[00:21:36] in relation to Gantz, meaning, yes, yes, so first of all, that's what
[00:21:40] else happened and can really be pointed to
[00:21:43] is some strengthening in voter
[00:21:46] turnout. We don't really know voter turnout, but what we see
[00:21:50] in the polls is the willingness to vote among coalition supporters, there was also
[00:21:54] a positive change for them, and these
[00:21:57] things together are much more significant than some weakness
[00:22:00] regardless, meaning it's not that people left it, it's not that voters left
[00:22:04] Gantz, Lapid, Bennett, and so on,
[00:22:08] not in such significant numbers, no. Rosner, with you, is there any
[00:22:12] further movement between the blocs or those who are undecided between
[00:22:15] the blocs or are all the hesitations people within
[00:22:18] the bloc? There are movements, but these movements are a trickle
[00:22:22] or a drip, meaning, these are not the significant
[00:22:25] numbers that are currently shaping
[00:22:29] the bloc picture. We did see some movement when Ofer Ben-Gvir's
[00:22:33] party was established, so it attracted some
[00:22:36] voters, mainly from the areas of Yisrael Beiteinu
[00:22:40] and Liberman, meaning some distinct right-wing
[00:22:43] voters who were in the change bloc, found in Ben-Gvir
[00:22:46] a more convenient solution for them, ah, ah.
[00:22:50] Compared to the explicit change bloc parties,
[00:22:53] but I, I accept what Dudi says,
[00:22:56] and that's the picture that emerges from the polls, the main change
[00:23:00] happened when the lists were closed at the beginning of
[00:23:03] September, the triple Arab list
[00:23:06] united, the Joint List, and then we saw
[00:23:10] for the first time what the map
[00:23:13] of parties would look like. It must be said, this is a map with many
[00:23:16] parties, currently there are 13 parties nominated
[00:23:20] for the Knesset, that's a lot of parties, if all of them pass the electoral
[00:23:23] threshold and you have to divide the mandates among all of them, then
[00:23:27] naturally each party will get fewer mandates. B. From the moment
[00:23:30] there is a bloc of Arab parties that we
[00:23:33] agree is numerically more like 15
[00:23:37] than 10, and it takes
[00:23:40] mandates that we don't count in any bloc, then you
[00:23:43] start the division of mandates into blocs from around 105 mandates
[00:23:47] instead of 120 mandates and also. This greatly reduces the
[00:23:50] ceiling. These are the significant major
[00:23:54] changes that happened in recent weeks. The inter-bloc
[00:23:57] shift is currently really a shift
[00:24:00] in very very small numbers. I don't think it should be given
[00:24:04] any dramatic importance. I, if I have to
[00:24:07] say, if I have to prophesy, and pollsters are not prophets, they
[00:24:11] look at today's picture, but if I have to prophesy based on what we've
[00:24:15] seen in recent weeks. I also don't think there will be a very large shift between
[00:24:19] the blocs. There might be an increase in voter
[00:24:22] turnout in certain places, although even
[00:24:26] now it already looks very high. Beyond that, I don't anticipate dramatic
[00:24:29] changes. Last question, I saw
[00:24:32] that social
[00:24:34] companies, and I'd be happy to hear your perspectives, there's a
[00:24:38] claim that says, and I really don't understand anything in this field that you deal
[00:24:42] with numerically, a claim that says, what, you have to
[00:24:46] give the raw data of the polls to the Central
[00:24:48] Elections Committee, it's open for all to see, and then you give
[00:24:52] the results on TV channels where you actually work. There's a claim that says
[00:24:56] that from this raw data you can derive all sorts of results and not necessarily
[00:25:00] the result you arrived at?
[00:25:03] Rosner?
[00:25:05] The answer is you can make anything out of anything, but if you ask me if
[00:25:09] you can recreate what we do without
[00:25:13] knowing how we do it, then the answer is no. Meaning you can take the
[00:25:16] raw material and decide to go wild with it in 100 ways. You
[00:25:20] can decide that for every Shas voter
[00:25:24] you give 10 times the weight of every Likud voter, and then you'll get
[00:25:27] a very good result for Shas. No, and why would I do such a thing?
[00:25:31] Right, why would you do it? Look, ultimately
[00:25:34] pollsters are like chefs, you get
[00:25:37] a plum cake. Now if you ask me for the list of ingredients,
[00:25:41] you'll get a list of ingredients, but if you don't know how much of each ingredient to put
[00:25:44] and where and when to put it in the batter. But in the raw data there isn't how much
[00:25:47] of each ingredient to put. The raw data doesn't say I polled
[00:25:51] 700 people and this is
[00:25:54] what they answered and therefore the only result is the plum cake you served
[00:25:58] on TV in the news?
[00:26:00] The raw data doesn't give you the formula, which is to some extent
[00:26:04] the secret recipe that every
[00:26:07] pollster uses when he decides how to divide
[00:26:10] the votes according to what percentage of turnout, according to what
[00:26:14] weight, what sector, according to, there are many many things
[00:26:17] that go into the calculation of a poll
[00:26:20] that, sorry, Einon asks me, I already have to understand this
[00:26:24] question, meaning that the secret recipe is
[00:26:28] related to you and how you
[00:26:31] see the.
[00:26:41] From what they gave them in the polls because they lie in the exit polls,
[00:26:44] they lie.
[00:26:46] That's not true, let's put it aside for a moment. No, that's not true, historically it's not true, it's
[00:26:50] a terrible urban legend, a very nice one. I invite everyone to go and check
[00:26:53] the last five elections and check
[00:26:57] where there were more deviations. When they find out that there were more deviations
[00:27:00] in favor of the coalition, then
[00:27:10] from the raw data to the result, you incorporate your understanding
[00:27:13] of the political reality? From the raw data to the result, I don't,
[00:27:16] I don't incorporate an understanding of the political reality,
[00:27:20] but I do have to incorporate all sorts of,
[00:27:23] in the raw data there are many variables that need to be taken
[00:27:27] into account, and every pollster, according to their experience, according to their understanding
[00:27:31] of the data, according to... their decision of what weight
[00:27:34] to give to what data, again, it's not
[00:27:37] that we're waving a finger in the air and saying which way the wind
[00:27:41] is blowing or reading the political interpretation and working
[00:27:44] accordingly, but you need to decide what weight you give to religiosity
[00:27:48] versus education, what weight you give to income
[00:27:52] versus geographical location. There are many variables
[00:27:55] that you take into account and every pollster in that sense does their job
[00:27:59] their own way and therefore the results sometimes. Even from raw data
[00:28:03] can be a little different, but whoever does
[00:28:06] a reasonable job will not get wildly different results, I say
[00:28:10] wildly, they will get slightly different results. Shmuel
[00:28:13] Rosner, Channel 13 News, Dudi Hassid here for Kan News, thank
[00:28:17] you very much, next time if possible, not just plum cake,
[00:28:20] slightly more realistic examples, I don't know, what plum cake? What do you want?
[00:28:24] Strudel, okay, strudel, there are better cakes, I thought you'd aim high,
[00:28:28] you tell me, not plum cake,
[00:28:30] strudel, what?
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[00:30:40] ראש
[00:30:44] Egghead. Wow, what a bald spot.
[00:30:48] 200 years ago, what would they say to people with Tourette's?
[00:30:51] They'd throw them into the fire.
[00:30:54] I suddenly start screaming. The teacher yells at me, "If he's not in the class, Daniel, stop
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[00:31:02] I used to hit walls and eat my hands. Adam,
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[00:34:45] You're talking about a corruption case in the area. You'll say which area.
[00:34:48] I don't want to get into trouble. Dialing code.
[00:34:51] Yes, there will be arrest warrants, and then the city's name
[00:34:54] will also be revealed. But what's more important is the scale of
[00:34:58] this case in terms of the amount of money
[00:35:01] and the extent of corruption. And I'll explain. We're talking about a very
[00:35:04] large case that's being investigated together, and today it reached the stage
[00:35:07] of arrests. At the center of the case are a mayor, at the center
[00:35:11] is his wife, the CEO of the economic company, and also a number
[00:35:14] of businesspeople. Criminal elements, developers, a total
[00:35:17] of 24 were arrested and detained,
[00:35:20] with a systematic bribery mechanism at the center of this investigation,
[00:35:24] a significant one that is managed by the mayor's
[00:35:27] wife, and this happens in cash, which in itself
[00:35:30] is very, very unusual in cases of local authorities.
[00:35:33] We're talking about,
[00:35:36] the unusual thing is that his wife is involved or the cash. No, no,
[00:35:39] no, no, the cash is very unusual. All the cases we've seen until now, it's
[00:35:43] bribery that's transferred in a way
[00:35:46] that's laundered through various benefits
[00:35:49] and such, but here, what they uncovered
[00:35:52] together, and these things were documented both through their means
[00:35:56] וגם בהזנות סטר, ספירת הכסף, זה שיזמים,
[00:35:59] to directly transfer packages of
[00:36:03] cash to her in exchange for promoting
[00:36:06] their interests. And in essence, the mechanism works like this: Business
[00:36:09] people know that to promote their interests, to win
[00:36:12] tenders in the municipality,
[00:36:15] in almost every possible field, whether it's businesses, urban renewal,
[00:36:19] sports, transportation, cleaning, entertainment events, tenders
[00:36:22] worth millions, to promote this, they contact the mayor's
[00:36:26] wife, who manages all the affairs,
[00:36:29] and she is the one who also receives the money in cash, and that's how
[00:36:33] their affairs are promoted. And to bypass
[00:36:37] the municipal oversight mechanisms, the city council,
[00:36:40] and other mechanisms, sensitive tenders, including tenders
[00:36:44] in which the mayor wanted to hide from the council a tender for a preferred
[00:36:47] business, were transferred to the economic company for improvement
[00:36:51] by the CEO of the economic company, who is also surprisingly
[00:36:54] and ironically in contact with the mayor's wife. What did he get?
[00:37:03] of cash in the mayor's house or something
[00:37:07] related to the mayor? Yes. We're talking about several hundred thousand
[00:37:10] shekels in total that have currently been found in all the places that are
[00:37:14] related to it, beyond the documentation. Is there any explanation or was there
[00:37:17] any any
[00:37:21] pretense for this money? The mayor's wife says, "I
[00:37:24] didn't receive it because I have, I don't know, no."
[00:37:57] The defense claims will naturally be presented, which raises the suspicion of
[00:38:00] the investigation, as part of the surveillance they are conducting as part of the ongoing
[00:38:04] investigation, that the mayor and his wife also live a lifestyle
[00:38:07] that is far beyond their expected financial capacity, not
[00:38:11] something that you are supposed to finance from a mayor's
[00:38:14] salary. And also that there are enormous amounts of cash purchases
[00:38:18] of jewelry and clothing and expensive
[00:38:20] watches
[00:38:22] and cars, luxury vehicles, and much more, and things that are taken
[00:38:26] abroad with cash. These are very, very large amounts. So,
[00:38:30] currently, what is emerging in the investigation is hundreds of thousands
[00:38:33] of shekels in cash, but it could very well be, especially given the scale
[00:38:37] of the purchases and the scale of the investigations,
[00:38:41] that it is something a bit more significant
[00:38:44] than that. And what else emerges here is that there is involvement of various
[00:38:47] criminal elements who are known in that city, who are
[00:38:51] also a kind of vote brokers and helped the mayor
[00:38:54] get elected. And their
[00:38:59] name comes up in the investigation as those who even sometimes exert
[00:39:02] pressure on other bidders in tenders, telling them
[00:39:05] not to compete. And that's how this
[00:39:09] mechanism succeeds in
[00:39:12] working, both because certain business people are promoted, and because others
[00:39:16] don't really want to deal with it. Tell me, do you have any idea how many heads of local authorities in Israel have
[00:39:20] some cloud and suspicions around them? Were they arrested,
[00:39:23] released, indictment or no indictment? You confuse
[00:39:26] me, but in.
[00:39:50] Or when they see a judge in a court hearing today, there are hearings
[00:39:54] in the Magistrates' Court in Rishon LeZion, and therefore after this hearing. I assume that the name
[00:39:58] will be more public, and also the city, and also the mayor's wife.
[00:40:02] Also the mayor's wife. Yes. Both of them, both of them are being brought for
[00:40:05] arrest. Yes, yes. Unless, I say, unless the judge
[00:40:08] decides otherwise regarding their name. I don't believe that will happen because of public
[00:40:12] interest, especially at a very, very high level when it comes to the head of the authority
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[00:41:54] The plan is to reach from 500 shekels to 12.
[00:41:58] The tension is double, the drama is double, and the money, a correct
[00:42:02] guess, is double. We came to sell, to sell,
[00:42:05] to sell. It's hard, it's hard
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[00:42:13] fed up, I don't like this behavior.
[00:42:16] Double the Money, a new reality competition. Tonight
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[00:42:23] Box. You forgot to check if the freezer door is open all
[00:42:27] night?
[00:42:29] To check if you locked the freezer, to check
[00:42:31] if you locked it.
[00:42:33] You broke it. I don't understand why I tolerate you. You don't have to be friends. I feel
[00:42:37] like the child whose parents will demand.
[00:43:42] Shalom, do you have to give up already?
[00:43:45] Shalom, Saturday night after a meeting
[00:43:49] on Kan 11 and Kan Box. Welcome
[00:43:53] to Tavor, I invited
[00:43:54] four.
[00:43:58] Egghead. Wow, what a
[00:44:00] bald spot.
[00:44:03] 200 years ago, what would they say to people with Tourette's?
[00:44:06] Throw them into the fire?
[00:44:09] Stop
[00:44:13] barking and get out of the class.
[00:44:15] Wow. I used to hit walls and eat
[00:44:19] my hands. Adam,
[00:44:21] Adam. Daniel really does.
[00:44:25] שלוש דקות הרצאה ו-42 דקות
[00:44:29] טבו עם חנוך דאון מחר
[00:44:32] בקאן 11 ובקאן בוקס כסף עם
[00:44:35] אגם רודברג ערב הפתיחה הערב בקאן 11'.
[00:44:45] אנחנו כאן,
[00:44:48] מה עכשיו אתה שואל? בוא אני אגיד לך מה עכשיו? אנחנו חוזרים
[00:44:50] לכותרת
[00:44:53] מיום שישי שעשתה הרבה מאוד רעש במוסף לשבת,
[00:44:56] חן ארט יסרור הביעה את המחקר
[00:44:59] הזה, אה, מחקר שמבוסס על נתוני משרד האוצר,
[00:45:02] משרד החינוך, שמראה שבעוד ארבע שנים על פי המגמה
[00:45:06] הנוכחית יהיו יותר תלמידי כיתה א'.
[00:45:10] בחינוך החרדי מאשר בזרם הממלכתי
[00:45:13] עברי כבר בעוד שנתיים
[00:45:16] ב-28, 2028 רוב הילדים שיכנסו לבטה
[00:45:20] ספר ילמדו מוסדות שחן
[00:45:22] מגדירה עינם שותפים לאטוס הציוני ואתה שואל איפה זה פוגש
[00:45:26] אותך אם אם אתה רוצה שזאת תהיה השאלה הזו יכולה להיות השאלה בוא
[00:45:30] נדבר עם אלי מורגנשטרן מנכל חברת אמפייר
[00:45:33] הוא היה בעבר רכז חינוך באגף התקציבים באוצר
[00:45:37] והוא חתום על המחקר הזה שלום אלי מורגנשטיין. שלום,
[00:45:41] בוקר טוב, שלומך, מה? אני מצוין,
[00:45:44] איך אתם? איך אתה רועי? אני
[00:45:47] גם, אתה בסדר? כן, אין תלונות. תן רגע את המוטיבציה
[00:45:51] לעריכת המחקר.
[00:45:53] אה, אני עוסק בסיפור של חינוך כבר מאז שהייתי רק חינוך
[00:45:57] באדף תקציבים, ובעיקר במדיניות
[00:46:00] חינוך, מנסה להבין מה אנחנו עושים נכון ומה אנחנו
[00:46:03] צריכים לשנות. וכשמסתכלים על הנתונים אז
[00:46:07] דברים שחשבנו שיקרו בעוד עשרות שנים.
[00:46:15] שואלים אותי פה אם אתה על אוזניה או על ספיקר כדי שנוכל לשמוע אותך כמו שצריך לא
[00:46:19] אני דווקא מחזיק את הטלפון ביד הכי קרוב שאני יכול
[00:46:22] אוקיי אז מה איך נערכים לזה מה
[00:46:25] מה מה אתה מציע בעצם אז
[00:46:29] האמת שבמשך שנים המדינה בנתה על זה שיש
[00:46:32] איזה אוכלוסיה קטנה אוכלוסיה
[00:46:35] של החינוך העצמאי מקום
[00:46:37] המדינה נתנה לו. באוטונומיה להתנהל
[00:46:41] לבד אה ובנדה על כל מיני תהליכים
[00:46:44] שלאורך שנים עוד מעט עוד מעט תיפטר עוד מעט
[00:46:47] יפטר ומסתבר שה עוד מעט יפתר זה אומר כי עוד מעט החברה החרדית תשתלב
[00:46:51] והם כולם. יעברו תהליך של ישראליזציה ויבאו
[00:46:55] לחינוך הממלכתי וילמדו לימודי ליבה ויהיו
[00:46:58] and through hidden recordings, counting
[00:47:02] the money, is that developers, business owners, and criminals used
[00:47:06] יש אמירה כזאת של זה תהליכים
[00:47:09] תהליכים רק תנו קצת צבלנות רק אל תתערבו והכל יהיה
[00:47:12] בסדר ואתם תראו שזה מסתדר
[00:47:16] ולמעשה המתגמה הקדימה את זמנה
[00:47:19] בהרבה
[00:47:21] כאילו חושב ש'. שווה להדגיש שהמגמה היא
[00:47:24] בעיקר ירידה בילודה בחברה הכללית, כן, כאילו
[00:47:28] החברה החרדית גדלה באותו קטע, זה איזה שינוי חדש
[00:47:32] מהשנים האחרונות, החברה הכללית כנראה
[00:47:35] יולדת הרבה פחות ממה שהייתה בעבר,
[00:47:39] ומה? וחרדים חוזרים פחות בשאלה?
[00:47:42] לא יודע אם פחות, פשוט קצב הגידול הדמוגרפי הוא מאוד
[00:47:46] מהיר, אנחנו מדברים על 4%, כמעט 4%
[00:47:49] בשנה, לעומת אפס.
[00:47:56] אין בעיה, אנחנו אוהבים ילדים באשר
[00:47:59] הם, וגם מבוגרים, המבוגרים אנחנו עובים פחות מאשר
[00:48:03] ילדים באופן כללי, אבל אנחים ילדים באשר הם, אין בעיה עם זה
[00:48:06] שקבוצה מסוימת בחברה הישראלית עושה ילדים יותר
[00:48:10] מאחרות, הבעיה וגם אתה מדגיש את זה
[00:48:13] במחקר שלך, הבעיה זה איזה חינוך הם מקבלים ואיזה
[00:48:16] אוטונומיה הם יוצרים לעצמם בתוך האקוסיסטם של
[00:48:20] החברה הישראלית, נכון מאוד. צריך ממש
[00:48:23] להדגיש את זה שלאף אחד אין בעיה עם זה שגם ברור
[00:48:27] שאנחנו אוהבים ילדים ואנחנו גם אוהבים את
[00:48:31] שכל אחד יבחר את אורח חייו הוא יכול להישאר
[00:48:34] ללמוד בחינוך חרדי ולהישאר בתוך
[00:48:37] החברה החרדית לאף אחד אין סיבה להתערב
[00:48:41] בזה אבל כן צריך שיוכל להשתלב בחברה הישראלית
[00:48:44] וזה אומר גם לימודי ליבה גם לימודי אזרחות גם
[00:48:48] השתלבות בשבות נסיעה בנטל
[00:48:51] הצבאי. בלי זה לא יהיה לנו חיילים בעוד לא כל כך הרבה
[00:48:55] שנים, לא יהיה מי שיעשה את השירות הצבאי ולא יהיה מי
[00:48:59] שיעשה את מי שימאמן את כל העלויות של המחיה
[00:49:02] פה, ואתה כמי שגדל בחברה החרדית, אתה מכיר את החברה החרדית
[00:49:06] מבפנים בעצמך היית חרדי פעם, יש לך איזה רעיון
[00:49:09] שמשהו שאולי כן יכול
[00:49:12] לשחרר את המעגל הזה ונגיד
[00:49:16] להרחיב את המגמה לקדם את המגמה של
[00:49:19] התרחבות של החברה. חרדית לתוך
[00:49:23] הציונות, לתוך האתוס הציוני, לתוך החינוך
[00:49:26] הממלכתי? אני חושב שהמדינה צריכה להתחיל
[00:49:30] להתייחס לאזרחים החרדים כאזרחים
[00:49:33] בלי קשר לשיוך הדתי שלהם, היא צריכה
[00:49:37] לוודא שחוק הוא חוק לכולם ושוויון וכל
[00:49:40] הכללים וכל השירותים שהמדינה נותנת, כמו
[00:49:44] גם הציפיות שהמדינה מצפה מהעזרכים הם זהים, כמו
[00:49:47] שילד בחינוך הכללי הולך לבית ספר, לומד
[00:49:51] על הערכים. של מדינת ישראל לומד
[00:49:55] איך צריך להשתלב ואיך צריך לקחת לסת
[00:49:58] לסת במסע של ה של החיים פה
[00:50:01] להיות נסת בנפל ככה גם כל ילד חרדי מצופן
[00:50:05] לעשות את זה הוא צריך להשתתף במבחנים כמו כולם הוא צריך
[00:50:08] להיות חלק וכנראה שצריך גם שהחינוך
[00:50:11] יהיה ישיר על ידי הממשלה ולא באמצעות מטווחים אבל
[00:50:15] תגיד מה שאתה מגדיר אני מסתכל על על
[00:50:18] הפילוג
[00:50:20] ב-2030'. אז שאתה מדבר על זה
[00:50:24] שה, בחינוך החרדי יותר מאשר
[00:50:27] הזרם הממלכתי עברי ה-29.2%
[00:50:30] שאתה צופה ל-20, כלומר שנתונים צופים ל-2030 לעומת
[00:50:34] 28.8% בממלכתי עברי,
[00:50:37] ה-29 ומשהו אחוזים של החינוך
[00:50:40] החרדי, מה קורה בהם? זה זה מקשה
[00:50:43] אחת, זה אתה יכול להגיד כל הכמעט 30% האלה,
[00:50:47] אלה תלמידים שלא ילמדו
[00:50:50] ליבה, שלא יהיו שותפים לאט. ציוני שלא ילמדו
[00:50:53] אותם על בכלל על ציונות ועל ועל והחינוך
[00:50:57] לצבא? יש בתוך החינוך החרדי
[00:51:00] קבוצה של חינוך ממלכתי חרדי, היא קבוצה
[00:51:04] יחסית קטנה, היא עומדת על ציבעה
[00:51:06] 8%, זה דווקא קבוצה
[00:51:09] שכן לומדת לימודי ליבה, יש גם בתוך הממכתי
[00:51:13] חרדי קבוצות יותר חזקות, יותר ממכתיות, פחות
[00:51:16] ממחציות, אבל אני חושב שלהתעסק בפרטי פרטים זה
[00:51:20] קצת מיותר, בתמונה הגדולה.
[00:51:23] יש קבוצה שנאמה בחברה הישראלית שהולכת והופכת
[00:51:26] להיות רוב או רוב מהחברה
[00:51:30] מחוסיה היהודית שעדיין לא שם יש לה חתיכת פר שהיא צריכה
[00:51:34] לגשר עליו ושהחלק של המדינה פה
[00:51:37] הוא אקוטי כי להמשיך
[00:51:40] לעשות את זה דרך מתווכים ודרך גופים דרך גופים
[00:51:44] פוליטיים חינוך פוליטי דפקטו לתת
[00:51:47] למפלגות לחנך תלמידים לאורך שנים פשוט
[00:51:51] להוכיח את עצמו זה לא.
[00:51:58] גם מכיר את החברה החרדית בכוחו של מי
[00:52:01] לשנות את זה? זה
[00:52:05] צריך החלטת מדיניות מאוד מאוד אמיצה החלטת
[00:52:09] מדיניות שאומרת אנחנו מושכים את אנחנו מה מבטלים את
[00:52:12] הזרמים העצמאים הפרטיים כן כן או
[00:52:15] שכל אחד שרוצה ללמוד פרטי עשה את זה על חשבונו כמו שעושים את זה בכל מקום
[00:52:19] בעולם אבל לא שהמדינה את הממן
[00:52:22] חינוך אבל צעדים כאלה לא עלולים דווקא לעשות הפוך ולחזק עוד
[00:52:25] יותר את הממוסעד החרדי כי אם
[00:52:28] הרגישו שהם במאבק וכשיש מאבק אז אה כולם שם
[00:52:32] אין ספק שזה צעד קשה וכל צעד.
[00:52:35] שהוא יש בו רכיב של לימו כל רפורמה שאין לה מתנגדים היא כנראה
[00:52:39] לא טובה, רפורמה תמיד יהיו לה מתנגדים ותמיד היא תהיה
[00:52:43] קשה,
[00:52:45] ופה המדינה תצרך לקבל את ההחלטות
[00:52:47] האלה ו ולעמוד מאחוריהם, צריך לראות לאורך
[00:52:51] זמן שחינוך ציבורי, אגב, כלכלה
[00:52:55] עובדת בפרט באוכלוסיות פחות
[00:52:57] אשירות, ואין אפשרות לאף
[00:53:01] פילנטרופ ולאף גוף אה, אה,
[00:53:24] חינוך ציבורי בלבד לכולם והחינוך
[00:53:27] הפרטי מי שבוחר בכל זאת לעשות את זה ויש לו את המשאבים
[00:53:31] שיפה את זה אבל לא שהמדינה תממן את ה'. את
[00:53:35] ההתרזקות שלה בעצמה דרך חינוך
[00:53:39] פוליטי. אלי מורגנשטן, תודה רבה.
[00:53:54] הם. ראש העיר אשר חשוד
[00:53:56] ב- מה? זה היה נקרא חשוד בשוחד
[00:53:59] בקרב ממש חשוד בקבלת שוחד.
[00:54:03] הוא רעייתו. ומנכל החברה הכלכלית
[00:54:07] בעירו ובכן העיר היא חבר
[00:54:31] סר ראש העיר הגיב
[00:54:33] ואמר כך. אני מבין את הדאגה ואת השאלות בעקבות הפרסומים
[00:54:37] הבוקר, בכוונתי לשתף פעולה באופן מלא עם גורמי החקירה ולמסור את כל
[00:54:41] ההסברים הנדרשים, אני מאמין שהבירור יאפשר להציג את התמונה
[00:54:44] המלאה, ושל החקירה המתנהלת, איני יכול להתייחס כעת לפרטים,
[00:54:48] אני מבקש להימנע מעשקת מסכנות בטרמת ברור עובדות, סגני
[00:54:52] דני הרוש ימלא את מקומי בימים
[00:54:54] אלה, הודעה ממלכתית, נאחל
[00:54:58] לדני הרוש הצלחה רבה במילוי המקום, אם אתה צריך משהו בכל
[00:55:01] נוגע לכפר סבא, בימים הקרובים. דני
[00:55:05] ארוש בסדר יש תגובה גם אשת ראש
[00:55:09] העיר לא לא
[00:55:21] בלאגן תכלית
[00:55:24] אה עם אוריך לא עם אוריך עצמו לא לא גם לא עם
[00:55:28] הפרטים מתוך הוואטסא שלו כי זה אסור אני מדבר על המנגנון
[00:55:32] שיפשר לכאורה את הואת'. את הדבר
[00:55:35] הזה, ספק חוקי,
[00:55:39] ואם למישהו יש רעיון מה היה הבאם הזה במוצאי שבת
[00:55:41] בצפון, אין לנו כלום, הואטסאפ פה זה
[00:55:45] 0507358669,
[00:55:47] אם יצא לכם, מה אתה עכשיו מסתר מאחורי הזה, בטוויטר של
[00:55:51] אסף ליברמן, גם אפשר, מה עוד רציתי להגיד
[00:55:54] לך אני אהיה עם אידות מנדל בליד גם אתמול בבית המשפט,
[00:55:57] עוד זה ועוד וכל זה עוד
[00:56:18] של מכבי חיפה וחיילת משוחרת שחזרה הרגע מהטיול הגדול שלושתם
[00:56:22] ינסו להפוך למלך או מלכת הכברת שלנו שזו משימה לא פשוטה
[00:56:25] בכלל כמו שראינו אבל מעט אסטרטגיה קצת מהירות וגם אתם
[00:56:29] בדרך אל הכתר תאספו את המשפחה ותיומו למסך בשבע
[00:56:32] הכברת ברוכים הבאים ל'.
[00:56:44] לפני 200 שנה מה היו אומרים לאנשים שיש להם טורט?
[00:56:48] זורקים אותם לאש?
[00:56:50] אני פתאום מתחיל לצרוח זה מורה צועקת עלי הכיתה דניאל תפסיק
[00:56:54] לנבוח ועוף לי מהכיתה
[00:56:56] וואו הייתי מרביץ לקירות ואוכל את
[00:57:00] הידיים אדם אדם דניאל
[00:57:04] באמת עושה.
[01:00:16] Hello everyone.
[01:00:22] The central suspect in the corruption case in the center. Hadas Granberg
[01:00:26] joins us on the line. Hello Hadas. You have all the details and what can
[01:00:30] be said about this case. That's right, Shalom. Yes, we are talking about a new
[01:00:33] corruption case that is being exposed today by the investigation, in which
[01:00:36] the mayor of Kfar Saba, his wife, the CEO of the economic company,
[01:00:40] and other public figures and businesspeople were arrested, a total of 17
[01:00:43] arrests so far and seven detentions.
[01:00:46] This investigation actually began as a hidden
[01:00:49] investigation more than a year ago, and it revealed that tenders in the Kfar
[01:00:53] Saba municipality operated on a bribery basis in almost every possible field.
[01:00:56] Tenders that were given to cronies, to businesspeople, some of them also
[01:01:00] criminals. In exchange for this, the mayor's
[01:01:02] wife receives cash in packages,
[01:01:05] and that's how the system operated. Businesspeople
[01:01:09] or those people who wanted
[01:01:12] to enter tenders and win them contacted the mayor's wife,
[01:01:15] she ensured that they won the tenders, and if
[01:01:19] there was any problem in allowing them to win
[01:01:22] tenders, these tenders were transferred through
[01:01:26] the economic company. Everything was coordinated with the CEO of the economic
[01:01:29] company, as suspected, and there, as mentioned,
[01:01:32] they did not enter tenders. We are talking about later
[01:01:35] tenders that concerned. really in everything in projects
[01:01:39] for renovation of education masses, entertainment complexes, urban renewal
[01:01:42] and more and more. There are also religious Jews involved here on suspicion
[01:01:46] in a scandal. But they also
[01:01:48] pressured
[01:01:53] the mayor within the framework of those rigged tenders. When
[01:01:56] they saw that they might not win a certain tender, they also pressured
[01:02:00] the mayor's advisor and him. We are talking about
[01:02:03] an amount of bribe estimated
[01:02:06] in millions. In the mayor's house, hundreds of thousands of shekels were seized
[01:02:09] in bags in the bedroom, in pouches
[01:02:12] and more. We are talking about events that occurred, according to
[01:02:16] suspicion, since 2000 after he was elected mayor.
[01:02:20] And finally, the suspicions are fraud, breach of trust,
[01:02:23] insulting a public servant and tax offenses. Thank you, Des.
[01:02:27] You're welcome. 15 days until the elections,
[01:02:31] the head of Yisrael Beiteinu, Avigdor Lieberman, says on Kan News on Reshet Bet that he is not
[01:02:34] worried about the poll that indicates a shift in power
[01:02:38] between the two large blocs and says that the anti-Netanyahu bloc has
[01:02:41] no chance of forming the next government. In an interview with Keren
[01:02:44] Noiman, Lieberman also referred to Naftali Bennett's statements yesterday
[01:02:48] that Netanyahu could serve as a minister in the government. Here
[01:02:51] Netanyahu will not be in the next government, not even the Minister
[01:02:55] for Regional Cooperation. Period. He simply will not be there,
[01:02:58] and therefore there will also be no non-Arab and non-
[01:03:01] ultra-Orthodox parties. And I tell you that the other parties, the anti-Netanyahu
[01:03:04] bloc, we will bring a narrow majority. Especially now
[01:03:08] this tension, it slightly brings motivation
[01:03:11] and adrenaline to the anti-Netanyahu
[01:03:13] bloc.
[01:03:16] The IDF plans to significantly reduce the presence of its forces
[01:03:19] in the Gaza envelope communities immediately after the elections. This is a revelation by
[01:03:23] Itay Blumental, our military correspondent this morning. As of
[01:03:27] October 29, reserve soldiers will be stationed only in communities
[01:03:30] up to four kilometers from the border. In other communities,
[01:03:34] security will be based on standby squads and security officers
[01:03:37] only. Dozens of reserve soldiers will be released in the Gaza envelope.
[01:03:41] They fear a deterioration in security. The residents claim they were not informed
[01:03:45] of the decision. The IDF clarifies that the security officers will be able to recruit
[01:03:48] fighters according to regulations.
[01:03:52] In the meantime, Israel has asked an American company on behalf of the Peace Council to enter
[01:03:56] the Gaza Strip in the coming days to begin demilitarizing the Strip. Itay
[01:03:59] Blumental, we turn to you now. This is also your scoop, Itay.
[01:04:03] Correct. Keren, Israel has asked an American company on behalf of the Peace
[01:04:06] Council to enter the Gaza Strip in the coming days to map
[01:04:10] areas, two or three areas where Hamas
[01:04:13] can transfer its weapons for destruction. This is considered
[01:04:17] one of the most significant steps in the Gaza Strip
[01:04:20] related to rehabilitation. From Israel's
[01:04:22] perspective, rehabilitation will only happen after Hamas disarms
[01:04:26] and the Gaza Strip is demilitarized. According to
[01:04:29] the details we published yesterday in the edition, the American
[01:04:32] team will enter the southern part of the Strip, the Khan Younis
[01:04:36] and Rafah areas, areas that are under Israeli control. Currently,
[01:04:40] they are trying to build a mechanism so that these terrorists,
[01:04:43] armed men, will arrive in those areas with
[01:04:45] their weapons. On the one hand, they will arrive there relatively
[01:04:48] securely, and on the other hand, they will not pose a threat
[01:04:52] or risk to the IDF forces deployed in the
[01:04:55] Strip. And it is important to remember that according to the Peace Council's plan,
[01:04:58] only after Hamas disarms,
[01:05:02] at least in a certain area, will IDF forces gradually withdraw,
[01:05:05] and the Council of Technocrats
[01:05:08] will take control of the area. A senior
[01:05:11] Israeli official tells us that Israel is working with
[01:05:14] the Americans. On the one hand, there is great pessimism
[01:05:17] that Hamas will actually agree to disarm, even though
[01:05:20] externally it tries to show that it is going
[01:05:23] there. And in Israel, they say we are doing everything to
[01:05:27] comply with the agreements. We are going with the Americans,
[01:05:30] and in the end, it is likely that Hamas, not Israel,
[01:05:34] will thwart the plan. Itay Blumental,
[01:05:37] thank you very much. That's all for this update. At 10, we will return with another news
[01:05:41] update. Now Asaf Liberman and Roi Sharon. Goodbye for now.
[01:06:41] talking about the dissemination of the WhatsApp
[01:06:44] of Yonatan Urich, he is the advisor, close associate of the Prime
[01:06:48] Minister. We will not give details from conversations,
[01:06:52] because it's not nice, and it's also
[01:06:54] forbidden. But first, tell us what was disseminated
[01:06:57] outside. So I already.
[01:07:42] that this information or part of it is true, yes, but we didn't see the original information,
[01:07:46] it's very important to understand that, it's not like something leaked to someone from their phone and then you say,
[01:07:50] oh, here I see the information. There's some kind of at
[01:07:53] least selective leakage or selective
[01:07:56] exposure of information, just as Roi Sharon received
[01:08:00] information, and he chooses what to give in the news reports,
[01:08:04] he delivers the details he wants to deliver in a
[01:08:08] report. I, I, I, I will say something else and maybe clarify us a little. There are
[01:08:12] two different stories here. There's the incident of the leak and if it's real
[01:08:16] or not, and if it's only embarrassing or if it's also dangerous, yes, or if
[01:08:20] it's and there's the first level that says why at all or
[01:08:23] what kind of event we are in also in terms of, let's call it,
[01:08:27] information security, yes, because in the end there's a difference between someone
[01:08:30] whose phone was hacked using a, let's call it, international
[01:08:34] spyware, and someone who perhaps did not act in the most
[01:08:37] secure way, yes. What is the case
[01:08:40] before us? Yes, what happened exactly? Look, we don't know. I
[01:08:43] can say that Haaretz already reported two weeks ago, a little more, about
[01:08:47] some tool that Urich
[01:08:49] built, your publication and Bar Peleg's. Urich, Urich
[01:08:53] built a cloud, cloud. And Urich, according to signs,
[01:08:57] built a tool designed to allow Bibi
[01:09:00] and the campaign to actually monitor the, well, it's for Bibi, but it seems to be
[01:09:03] for Bibi, to monitor social media, to see what's trending
[01:09:07] in groups, what's trending in feeds and so on. And then it sends mini
[01:09:11] updates to a WhatsApp group. Milo
[01:09:13] built some kind of automated analysis process like that to help them see what's happening
[01:09:17] on social media. And this thing exposed information, exposed identifying
[01:09:20] information, yes, because he uses it, a program, yes, it's very complicated
[01:09:24] to make your computer send messages to your WhatsApp automatically and all sorts of things
[01:09:28] like that. There's some kind of what's called a token, some kind of identifier,
[01:09:31] yes, of probably Urich's personal WhatsApp,
[01:09:35] and we warned and reported then that this is information that could be
[01:09:38] used to hack someone. Explain again
[01:09:41] exactly. Urich created for himself
[01:09:44] some technological tool through, yes, a bot, through
[01:09:48] through through a chat that would help him
[01:09:51] analyze what's happening on the network, but
[01:09:54] actually when he did this, he basically
[01:09:57] created a loophole for his personal WhatsApp,
[01:10:01] yes. He exposed some kind of identifier, some kind
[01:10:05] of, let's call it, a key, that usually none of us know we have
[01:10:08] this key. Where is this key? Where is this key located? Where did he publish it? Where did he?
[01:10:28] your or do something on your WhatsApp, it's very complicated. WhatsApp is actually a very
[01:10:31] limited program, yes, so there are all sorts of tools that you can attach to them to make your WhatsApp
[01:10:35] send automatic messages and all sorts of things
[01:10:38] like that. This tool, one of these tools, he registered for it,
[01:10:41] yes, and. together with his clone, he built some software where everything
[01:10:45] connects together to say what this tool is, it's
[01:10:49] yes, it's a very boring software that forensic lawyers use to
[01:10:52] save to save to save WhatsApp conversations,
[01:10:56] yes, it's a company that sits in the United Arab Emirates. Calcalist
[01:10:59] also reported on this. There's some danger here, yes,
[01:11:02] basically a person who communicates with the Prime Minister uses software that we don't know anything
[01:11:06] about to send and save messages. Moreover, we know
[01:11:10] all this because he built it with a clone. Software that I found on the internet that is simply
[01:11:14] open, yes, that sits under his username on some
[01:11:17] website, and there I see all these things. I also see how he built
[01:11:20] the software. Meaning, it says there, "search for stories
[01:11:23] like this." Not "stories like this," it says, "you are a senior communications advisor, analyze now." Why is all this
[01:11:27] important? Because now it happened. Yes, we said, "Hey, if there are
[01:11:31] hackers watching and they saw this, then you can
[01:11:34] yes, it's illegal to hack, yes." You can take this information and use it. Yes, there's
[01:11:38] basically the, like a key, yes. We saw that they know the...
[01:11:42] The key is hanging outside the door of what you're saying, that no one
[01:11:46] hacked Urich's WhatsApp or cell phone. He simply
[01:11:49] put this information there without taking into account that you are using
[01:11:53] that same loophole key. It's like you're putting it,
[01:11:56] it's like you're leaving the key in the electrical cabinet. Someone
[01:12:00] comes, takes the key from the electrical cabinet and enters your house. As Omer Ben Yaakov
[01:12:03] describes it, you left the key in the lock, you just need
[01:12:07] to come and do it. Also on a
[01:12:09] legal level.
[01:12:21] And about the fact that a conversation was leaked, and again, we don't even know if all the conversations are real, yes, there's something
[01:12:25] very selective in what came out. There are reasons to believe that some of the information is reliable,
[01:12:28] but it cannot be ruled out that misleading information was inserted. There are reasons to believe, but that whoever
[01:12:32] did this read your article, I
[01:12:35] don't know, and understood, and understood from your publication that Urich left
[01:12:39] the key in the electrical cabinet, in the lock. Look, look. It
[01:12:43] could be, it's a very, very big speculation. I think the bigger story or the more interesting question
[01:12:47] that we're not asking is who is supposed to protect Urich's phone? This
[01:12:51] is about cybersecurity, it's a technical thing, but it's a very, very important thing. And there's
[01:13:08] a question of how to protect former Israeli officials, yes.
[01:13:11] A good question, Tamir Pardo, there were many such cases.
[01:13:14] In the end, there's a very important question of how to protect the environment
[01:13:18] of a prime minister and beyond that, and people are now, again, I have
[01:13:21] to say about Urich specifically, and this is not the first time, yes, also the affair
[01:13:26] in a very, very similar way, also the tool we published four weeks ago was published
[01:13:30] in a very, very similar way, so this is not just some
[01:13:33] kind of, embarrassing and funny, there's a much bigger story here. But whoever
[01:13:37] uses all sorts of, whoever uses such private agents
[01:13:41] who answer WhatsApp calls for you, basically the moment you put
[01:13:44] it there, you left the key in the lock, 100%.
[01:13:48] There's no doubt at all. And in general, whoever doesn't think
[01:13:51] that their phone, and certainly people
[01:13:55] in positions, is a security front. And in the end, there's an event, I have to say seriously,
[01:13:58] for a second, I, I, my heart aches. There's also a serious
[01:14:02] cyber event, like with Libiz with Benny Gantz or with Herzi Halevi. Many people leaked
[01:14:06] things from recent years. This is an unpleasant thing. Now, this is not just a specific
[01:14:10] and personal event, it's ultimately a failure. I'll say it seriously for a second, it's a security failure,
[01:14:13] yes, because every such leak leads to another leak. Yesterday, we don't know if this is true, but let's say
[01:14:17] among the things that were leaked in these WhatsApps were usernames and passwords,
[01:14:21] because it turns out that there are people who send each other on WhatsApp usernames.
[01:14:25] A password, for example, for the email that the Likud might use for the campaign.
[01:14:29] Now, that's it. Now another detail, that's another key. Now every such key
[01:14:32] leads to another person. Now, in the end, I don't want to be dramatic, but in the end, at the extreme of these
[01:14:36] things, there are also Iranian assassination attempts, yes, meaning
[01:14:40] leaders. So what does that mean for our listeners
[01:14:43] who use such AI agents? What do you tell them? What do you tell
[01:14:46] them? Don't No, not at all. I think there is a correct
[01:14:50] and more, let's call it, secure way to use these things. I think the big don't, the big
[01:14:54] no, is to be careful not to build yourselves a tool that exposes
[01:14:58] you. Yes, build a tool that maybe runs on your computer, but the moment you build
[01:15:01] software that connects to your WhatsApp and extracts information from the internet
[01:15:05] and sends things and you gave it access to your personal WhatsApp, you don't
[01:15:08] know. In the end, what exposed Urich more than the code, more
[01:15:11] than anything else, in the original code, was probably a clone. Meaning, the clone also saved his
[01:15:15] code and he didn't set privacy settings. So in the end, those of us who are
[01:15:18] not programmers need to be very, very careful, and I think that as a person who
[01:15:22] is not a technical person, but now has also been exposed. And also to cyber, I know
[01:15:26] to say that in the end, yes, my WhatsApp, my phone, my Gmail, these are my boundaries,
[01:15:30] yes. In the end, the help it gives me there is very small compared
[01:15:33] to the risk. Here's an example, meaning a really good example. I didn't understand, so you're not
[01:15:37] you're not not connected to emails
[01:15:40] and WhatsApps?
[01:15:43] No, my WhatsApp is not connected, certainly my email is connected, maybe in the sense that I allow
[01:15:46] it to see or search, but I don't allow it to do everything.
[01:15:49] Meaning, I will never build myself a process that says, for example, "Now
[01:15:53] search all over the internet and find me the news stories
[01:15:56] that are relevant to me as Omer Ben Yaakov, and then send me a WhatsApp
[01:16:00] to myself." And that's ultimately the sending, all the connection to the internet.
[01:16:04] No, not at all. I don't want it to, I'm not going to activate my personal
[01:16:07] phone automatically to optimize. It's a complicated thing
[01:16:11] in general, and second, it's something that I don't think is worth it. So yes, that's fine. You can
[01:16:14] build yourself a Telegram bot that sends you alerts.
[01:16:18] I, I don't use such things. I also yes, I do use a lot of cloud and I do
[01:16:22] use a lot of LinkedIn, and I also believe that this can allow many people
[01:16:25] to build tools, and I understand why Urich built what he built, but in the end, one also needs
[01:16:29] to think a little more, let's call it, from a security perspective. That's fine. And there's
[01:16:33] a difference between building yourself something cool that you use on your computer, to even building some
[01:16:37] kind of something that helps you a little on the internet, versus building software
[01:16:40] that actually connects to your WhatsApp and sends messages on your behalf
[01:16:43] to groups through an automated analysis process with
[01:16:47] a third-party tool that you paid for. Meaning, he bought software for WhatsApp and then built his
[01:16:51] software on top of it. In the end, there's what's called a tower of things
[01:16:55] that, yes, because whoever understands that they don't understand software doesn't do it, yes.
[01:16:58] 100%. Good. What do I see? After we
[01:17:01] leave, it will be taken down from the air, all
[01:17:05] these WhatsApps. That's say,
[01:17:07] yes. What does that mean? No, like what is
[01:17:10] that? It's on the internet. What does that mean? It's on the network. They don't really
[01:17:14] take it down. That's what he, that's, that's, that's there. There's
[01:17:17] a leak here, there's a leak here that is mainly
[01:17:20] embarrassing at this stage, but also exposes things that, let's say, at a more
[01:17:24] substantive level, are a problem.
[01:17:27] Really, I think, I think we will see more such things over time, especially with live coding and with
[01:17:31] this. Meaning, it's possible that also, but is WhatsApp a program that can be easily
[01:17:35] hacked? No, it's because people, because people, and especially
[01:17:38] the campaigns now, people build software for themselves, and I think we will see many such mistakes.
[01:17:42] And therefore, the question of who protects whom is a very important question, and we need
[01:17:45] sorry for the conservatism for a moment. We need, we need
[01:17:49] security bodies, there's a really big event here. We are already in the seventh
[01:17:52] of October. The number of phones
[01:17:55] and emails is infinite. Also
[01:17:58] an advisor who broke, also Israel's missiles
[01:18:01] might have photos from his phone. There's a bigger event here. Omer Ben Yaakov.
[01:18:05] Thank you very much.
[01:18:50] about, uh, legally, about a place where secrets are not kept,
[01:18:53] where secrets cannot be heard. On the contrary, former Attorney General Avichai
[01:18:57] Mandelblit, who takes the witness stand as a witness
[01:19:01] for the defense of
[01:19:03] the accused Benjamin Netanyahu. What's happening there? So,
[01:19:07] first of all, let's start with a bit of the facts. What
[01:19:11] actually, uh, there was a
[01:19:15] dispute first of all. The prosecution was somewhat opposed, the defense
[01:19:18] brought him, and yesterday he began to be questioned by Amit
[01:19:22] Haddad, and there, slowly, slowly,
[01:19:25] the truth was revealed. What do I mean slowly, slowly? Quite quickly, various
[01:19:28] actions that were carried out without his knowledge, interrogation tricks, all sorts of
[01:19:32] claims that were answered uh, that were answered without any connection to it. Wait,
[01:19:36] wait, even before we delve into the details. Why bring him? Meaning, why is the defense
[01:19:39] bringing him? What did it want to prove?
[01:19:42] The defense, look, broadly speaking, there are two axes here. There's the axis
[01:19:45] of the, of the substantive one, let's call it, to show
[01:19:49] that Netanyahu
[01:19:51] is innocent, he is not guilty, in the sense that there are no factual
[01:19:55] elements, there are no elements and so on and so forth. And there is another axis called defense by
[01:19:59] estoppel. Defense by estoppel says a bit, I'm going
[01:20:02] now to whoever throws far, like the fruits of the poisoned tree that we don't
[01:20:05] have, defense by estoppel. It says that if you do not
[01:20:09] protect the rights of the accused and the important
[01:20:12] rights and violate rules and act illegally and do
[01:20:16] all sorts of things like that, it can lead to the cancellation of the indictment
[01:20:19] and additional sanctions, but in this context, the cancellation of the
[01:20:23] indictment. Now, in fact, the defense here
[01:20:25] played yesterday throughout the interrogations on these two directions: one on defense by
[01:20:29] estoppel, which means, "Look, Mandelblit himself
[01:20:33] says that he is not, contrary to what Koresh Barnor, who was
[01:20:36] the chief investigator, let's call him, said, that he approved every
[01:20:40] single detail of this investigation." This is not true, he didn't do that. It
[01:20:44] is true that he himself said that he was horrified by all sorts of tricks that were done. He
[01:20:48] said more than that, that they exceeded the authorizations
[01:20:51] he gave, for example, regarding Milchan,
[01:20:54] and he even said even harsher things about the interrogation trick against
[01:20:58] Nir Hefetz, let's remind everyone, the state witness, that
[01:21:01] a close associate of Hefetz was summoned there and they pressured him
[01:21:05] regarding his personal relationships and family, and so on. And he said that these were
[01:21:09] inappropriate actions and that they were wrong
[01:21:12] and that he didn't know about them in real time, he didn't know about these pressures
[01:21:16] in real time. But then he said: "I
[01:21:19] preferred, let me find it for a second, I preferred the proper
[01:21:22] management of the case rather than prosecuting and opening an investigation
[01:21:26] into the police," meaning against the investigators who acted, in the opinion of the Attorney General,
[01:21:29] in an inappropriate manner. He was careful
[01:21:33] not to say illegally, I will say illegally. Now, what does this
[01:21:36] lead to? Defense by estoppel, defense by estoppel says
[01:21:40] that in such a case, if there are such failures and we see
[01:21:43] eagerness from the prosecution and willingness to break every norm and trample
[01:21:47] every right of the suspect and accused, then this should
[01:21:50] lead to the cancellation of the indictment. This is ostensibly the official
[01:21:54] reason why they went down this path.
[01:21:57] So, unlike others, I think there's no chance this
[01:22:01] will happen. I don't see how the judges
[01:22:05] will accept this claim of defense by estoppel, precisely, by the way,
[01:22:08] for the same reason that Mandelblit himself said yesterday when he
[01:22:12] was asked, in fact, when he spoke about this interrogation tactic being
[01:22:16] inappropriate and wrong, and then he said, "I preferred proper management." This is exactly
[01:22:20] what he said. So, in effect, he said what the judges will decide.
[01:22:24] I didn't saw off the branch. The case was more important. The judges will decide exactly the same
[01:22:27] way, and I don't see a way for them to choose differently, because the implication
[01:22:31] of recognizing defense by estoppel here is basically
[01:22:35] to indict, I would say, to convict, what is it to indict, to convict
[01:22:38] the prosecution. Such a conviction that after it the prosecution,
[01:22:41] which is the police, the Attorney's Office today, after it there will be no
[01:22:45] system.
[01:22:56] die during the broadcast, but I will just continue? No, that would actually be nice, that's your last
[01:23:00] idea and we can brag about it. But
[01:23:15] a close associate of the Prime Minister. The accused, a close associate
[01:23:18] and also the husband of a deputy.
[01:23:28] They summoned him for questioning, and then when he was halfway there, they canceled
[01:23:31] his questioning, and then he was stopped on a main
[01:23:34] road and looked like some lunatic. There was
[01:23:37] some kind of thing there and they called a photographer. There was a spin that he was
[01:23:40] going, that the directions were problematic mental directions.
[01:23:44] Yes, uh, first of all, the fact that it came out does not mean
[01:23:47] that it is still illegal. I.
[01:23:50] The accumulation is an accumulation that we are not familiar with from other
[01:23:52] cases. I mean, has this
[01:23:56] eagerness to convict leaders and important people, has it not
[01:23:59] always been there? So look, here I don't know how to say, because I'm not
[01:24:03] familiar enough with Olmert's case and not with this case in detail. But
[01:24:07] I can't tell you to what extent this is relatively speaking. I can tell
[01:24:10] you that in such cases, especially in Netanyahu's
[01:24:13] case, there is the issue of
[01:24:16] the public who votes for him and is essentially prevented from doing so by the public.
[01:24:20] You would expect exactly different behavior here. You would expect
[01:24:23] the Attorney General to check every single
[01:24:26] detail, that when they submit 315 sections
[01:24:29] after his amendments, he will review every
[01:24:32] single one of them. Yes, that's not so much, and that there won't be all
[01:24:36] sorts of general approvals like that running around. You would expect exactly the opposite
[01:24:39] behavior, even if it was done with Olmert, and I don't think it was done to the same
[01:24:43] extent or at the same level, but I don't know how to say that. So this is partly
[01:24:47] my intuition here. It's clear that there was. Some eagerness that we see,
[01:24:51] by the way, also in previous testimonies, both from Iran Kamin and from others. You
[01:24:55] see here that they were willing, at least what's been seen so far in Amit
[01:24:58] Haddad's interrogations, that they were willing to violate many
[01:25:02] rules. Now you ask me if this was done elsewhere, I can tell you
[01:25:05] in my field, that if you think that if
[01:25:09] they do this in a prime minister's case, such a popular one, where they know it will be
[01:25:13] scrutinized in the media in tiny details,
[01:25:16] and that he will hire the best lawyers and they will turn it over, then if they do it here.
[01:25:26] The same thing for people who are the disadvantaged ones I
[01:25:29] dealt with back then, you can assume they do it to them a million times more. But,
[01:25:33] but I just want to say something. I think that both Netanyahu and
[01:25:36] Haddad and all the prosecutors there knew
[01:25:40] that the chance of defense by estoppel is not high, and therefore they are doing
[01:25:43] it, in my opinion, they are doing it, among other things, to
[01:25:46] achieve another defense, defense by the voter. Of course.
[01:25:50] And here I just have to say one more thing. Netanyahu's legal work
[01:25:54] has been focused on the general public for quite some time, by the way, even in cases
[01:25:58] where it was to his detriment, meaning he gave speeches in court
[01:26:01] that harmed the accused Netanyahu, but
[01:26:04] helped the politician
[01:26:19] Luckily there's...
[01:26:28] The prosecution also stood by the same thing. The prosecution, when they published the list
[01:26:31] of suspicions and the intention, it was exactly six weeks before the 2019 elections,
[01:26:35] and there was a discussion about whether they should publish or not publish.
[01:26:38] And Netanyahu's lawyers asked them not to publish, and they said, "The case
[01:26:42] is ripe, so we're publishing." As if the case just ripened, it's a cherry
[01:26:45] that coincidentally grew at the same time, coincidentally grew at
[01:26:48] that moment. So they also said, "It's important," Shai Nitzan said, "It's important
[01:26:52] for the public to know," and so on. So look how the tables have turned,
[01:26:56] and now also, just by chance, again, the cherry
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[01:31:55] citizen, she lived for many years
[01:31:58] in Moscow, because of the...
[01:32:03] well, her research is arctic
[01:32:06] geese, so all the arctic geese, that's what she deals with,
[01:32:10] yes, so all summer
[01:32:13] she is in the Arctic, wow,
[01:32:17] basically and every year she
[01:32:20] visits Israel and she has a quite
[01:32:24] close connection with Israel, when she
[01:32:27] was young she participated in international
[01:32:30] competitions, riding a horse. And she
[01:32:37] you say she has both Israeli and Russian
[01:32:40] citizenship, yes, and she is on the line, meaning her main
[01:32:44] job is in Russia and she also comes to Israel
[01:32:48] every year. Yes, and she made the
[01:32:52] film about nature
[01:32:55] in Israel. You can watch
[01:32:58] this film on YouTube in English. To support
[01:33:24] the organization
[01:33:27] of Navalny's war against
[01:33:30] corruption. Corruption,
[01:33:34] uh, and it was completely
[01:33:36] legal. She went
[01:33:39] on an expedition, well,
[01:33:42] in the north, a delegation, yes, a research delegation.
[01:33:45] Yes, and at the end of May,
[01:33:49] beginning of June
[01:33:51] 2021, in Russia, it
[01:33:55] was declared, the FBK was
[01:33:56] declared
[01:33:59] an extremist organization. So, retroactively, your daughter gave
[01:34:02] a donation to someone who is an opposition figure in Russia,
[01:34:05] and that was actually seen as a step against
[01:34:09] Putin. Navalny, it must be said, that it was later found to be an illegal act
[01:34:12] in Russia. Navalny is... No, no,
[01:34:16] she when she gave
[01:34:20] legal. Yes.
[01:34:23] And that it
[01:34:25] was declared extremist because she
[01:34:29] was in the Arctic. When she returned
[01:34:32] to Moscow, she immediately canceled the standing order,
[01:34:35] but the two payments,
[01:34:39] a total of 80
[01:34:41] shekels, had already gone through.
[01:34:58] She and said in
[01:35:01] court that it's only
[01:35:04] a war on corruption, that she
[01:35:07] only participates in the war on corruption and has no
[01:35:11] extremist views and... No.
[01:35:17] And then when she returned to Russia, because of these two transfers that were on standing
[01:35:21] order for two consecutive months, which is
[01:35:25] you say 80 shekels in total, she
[01:35:28] is now accused of financing an illegal
[01:35:31] organization and they are arresting her, a criminal
[01:35:34] investigation, right? But only after
[01:35:37] four years they did it.
[01:35:41] And then two weeks ago, right? Two weeks ago, District Court A.
[01:36:09] What do we do? What do we do? Is she in jail now? Physically, is she in jail
[01:36:13] in Russia now?
[01:36:29] They cannot interfere in the
[01:36:32] court process in Russia. What is the Russian
[01:36:36] prison like? What are the conditions in the Russian prison? Meanwhile, she is
[01:36:39] in prison.
[01:36:41] There has not been an appeal yet, there will be an appeal.
[01:37:03] I can't,
[01:37:06] but the lawyer and the Israeli
[01:37:09] consul can visit
[01:37:12] him, yes. Is there
[01:37:15] something that can be done or is she going to spend three and a half
[01:37:19] years in prison in Russia for those 80
[01:37:21] shekels? There will be an appeal
[01:37:25] but the hope is not great that something
[01:37:28] will change.
[01:37:32] I actually asked,
[01:37:35] I also sent to
[01:37:38] the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and to other people
[01:37:41] that what I want is for
[01:37:45] them to return
[01:37:48] to Israel,
[01:37:50] but how to do
[01:37:52] that?
[01:37:56] A mess,
[01:37:59] it's not a mess, it's more of a tragedy, a tragedy.
[01:38:02] A tragedy. Well, let's hope that, wait, she has good
[01:38:06] דין טובים שיודעים להחזיק את העירור הזה, ואולי
[01:38:09] there's
[01:38:12] אז אורכי גין.
[01:38:15] הם הם בסדר, אני חושב, ואני
[01:38:19] there,
[01:38:23] אמרו במשפט ושבכלל זה
[01:38:26] לא צריך להיות משפט הזה,
[01:38:29] אבל אף אחד לא מקשיב שם,
[01:38:33] a
[01:38:36] משמט, משפט כמו בארץ
[01:38:39] החופשי, נו,
[01:38:40] באמת,
[01:38:43] Never mind an article. You
[01:38:47] יש לה משפחה ילדים יש
[01:38:50] לה יש לה שם בן זוג אבל
[01:38:54] משפחה בארץ בארץ אני. נעקוב
[01:39:04] this story.
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[01:40:25] לילות מחיפה לאטליה.
[01:40:31] The tension is double, the drama is double and the money, a correct
[01:40:35] is double. We
[01:40:38] sell. Man,
[01:40:41] for me.
[01:40:43] תקשיבי, תקשיבי, תקשיבי, אני מפורש, לא מתאים לי ההתנהלות
[01:40:47] Double the Money, a new
[01:40:51] ריאליטי חדשה, הערב אחרי החדשות, בקאן
[01:40:54] 11 ובקאן בוקס, ברוכים.
[01:41:07] 200 years ago, what would they say to people who had Tourette's? They would throw
[01:41:11] אותם לאש אני פתאום
[01:41:14] מתחיל לצרוח זה מורה צועקת עלי הכיתה דניאל תפסיק
[01:41:17] לנבוח ועוף לי
[01:41:18] מהכיתה
[01:41:21] I would hit walls and eat my Adam,
[01:41:25] Adam, that's me.
[01:42:55] What?
[01:44:10] Distribution of medals
[01:44:13] רק על העקרבות של השבעה באוקטובר לא של כל המלחמה
[01:44:17] שמלווה אותנו ותרם
[01:44:18] הסתיימה
[01:44:21] How can we choose
[01:44:24] צלשים איך עושים זה מעניין ההיסטוריה
[01:44:28] של זה היא מאוד מעניינת והיא מתחילה כמובן בדוד בן
[01:44:32] גרויון וה במלחמת העצמאות
[01:44:35] חולקו בפועל אנשים קיבלו למעלה מ-100
[01:44:39] איש. קיבלו ציונים לשבח מהרמתכל,
[01:44:42] מאלופי פיקוד, ממפקדי חטיבות אפילו, ואז בא בן
[01:44:46] גוריון, שהיה כמובן גם אהב המייסד וגם אריץ לא
[01:44:50] קטן, ואמר: עם כל הכבוד אני מבטל אותם, זאת
[01:44:53] wow, I am canceling
[01:44:57] אותם, ויהיו רק 12
[01:45:00] Hero of Israel.
[01:45:03] לימים, כשהיה שינוי
[01:45:06] ובנו את האיתורים, הוא מר לעיתור הגבורה. והיו
[01:45:10] 12 גיבורי ישראל, ונתן בן גוריון קריטריון
[01:45:14] ואמר רק על מעשים
[01:45:16] שהביאו לניצחון בקרב, למשל על חילוץ פסועים
[01:45:20] לא, אלא רק על מעשים שהביאו לניצחון בקרב, כי
[01:45:23] תפקיד הצבא זה לנצח בקרב, אגב כשאני הייתי
[01:45:26] ילד, זה מאתר את
[01:45:29] גילי המופלג, אני ידעתי בעל פה את השמות שלהם, לא
[01:45:33] רק זה, ידעתי אמיל בריק מליל הגשרים, הייתה לו
[01:45:37] סוכנות כרטיסים קאסטל בתל אביב. ומרדכי
[01:45:40] לייטנר נדמה לי מעירק
[01:45:43] was, apropos
[01:45:46] הפרסומות לפילהרמונית ששמעתי אצלכם קודם
[01:45:50] היה סדרן בהיכל התרבות ואתה
[01:45:53] בתור בתור ילד עברי ידעת כל
[01:45:56] אחד מהם זה בדיוק מה שבן גוריון ביקש כל אחד
[01:45:59] מ11 אתה התגשת את העניין של מה-19 כן
[01:46:03] התגשת את העניין של ניצחון בקרב כי אחרי מלחמת לבנון
[01:46:06] שנייה אני חושב שזה היה אחת הוועדות דיברו על זה שהצלה.
[01:46:23] Israel, that's what he chose
[01:46:26] שרירותי וכל העקרונות האלה של בן
[01:46:29] גוריון יפה להזכיר אותם כי כמובן אף
[01:46:33] אחד מהם לא נשמר והיום יש אחרי
[01:46:37] I think after
[01:46:40] זוכר אם לפני או אחרי, העבירו את זה מצלש, פעם היה רק
[01:46:44] ציון לשבח, העבירו את זה לשיטת האיתורים, איתור
[01:46:48] גבוהה, איתור עוז ואיתור מופת וצלשים
[01:46:51] גם, והיום אינפלציה רבתי שמחזירה אותנו
[01:46:55] לשאלה המרכזית שלכם, איך
[01:46:58] בוחרים, רגע, כמה כמה צלשים אז נותנים, לא
[01:47:01] יודע לבנון שנייה נגיד כמה צלשים
[01:47:03] I don't remember exactly, but there are
[01:47:07] יותר קריטריונים, לא לא מספריים. וגם לא על
[01:47:11] And this
[01:47:14] הזאת, למשל, בשביעי באוקטובר, כן, נגיד עוד משהו על
[01:47:17] צלשים, והוא הכללה פראית,
[01:47:20] אבל הרבה מאוד סלשים, הם כדי לא להגיד
[01:47:24] כולם, ניתנו במקום שבו
[01:47:27] broke
[01:47:31] and the chain
[01:47:35] וחיילים, מפקדים, בעיקר
[01:47:38] ברמות ה... ברמות הזותרות גילו
[01:47:42] גבורה אישית, זאת אומרת גילו אומץ לב
[01:47:45] והצטערו וכן הלאה, ועל
[01:47:48] זה, ניתנו צלשי,
[01:47:51] מכיוון שהשביעי באוקטובר הוא כל כולו סיפור של
[01:47:55] פיקוד שנשבר,
[01:47:58] שנלחמו בכמעט אחד אחד
[01:48:01] או בקבוצות מאוד קטנות, המועמדים
[01:48:04] לצלשי מספרים אני מניח יהיה מאוד מאוד גדול. אני אקריא לך ציטות, נראה אם
[01:48:08] אתה מכיר אותו ב'. שלנו צריכים כמה תנאים
[01:48:12] שיכשירו קרב, הרבה נפגעים, הרבה צלשים,
[01:48:16] ולהגיד בשקט שהקרב לא בדיוק הצליח, אבל היו מעשי
[01:48:19] גבורה. זה כתב את זה האלוף דורן,
[01:48:23] רובין. אתמול נכון, אתמול
[01:48:27] כשנערכנו לשיחה הזאת, אז חיטתי קצת, כי
[01:48:30] זכרתי שהיה איזה משהו כזה שמדבר כאילו על מה נותנים צלש
[01:48:34] בסוף, על קרב שמורכב מהרבה פשלות,
[01:48:37] מחדלים, תקלות והיו. את אלה
[01:48:40] שהצליחו למצוא את עצמם כי בסופו של דבר
[01:48:44] מצילים את המצב, אבל בלי בלי התקלות והמחדלים
[01:48:48] it wouldn't have been necessary.
[01:48:51] That's what I said, I don't know about malfunctions and failures, the chain
[01:48:55] בדרך כלל שרשרת
[01:49:10] מלחמת יום כיפור קרב הגנה מופתי
[01:49:13] בוודי מברוק בסיני, אף אחד לא מכיר את
[01:49:17] זה, כי הקרב נועל היטב,
[01:49:20] and succeeded in its mission.
[01:49:23] A very large Egyptian force, but the command
[01:49:27] תפקד, וכל אחד עשה מה שהוא היה צריך, ולא היה
[01:49:30] צריך גבורה יוצאת דופן, עכשיו זה כמובן החללה
[01:49:34] מאוד מאוד גדולה מה שאנחנו אומרים, אבל זה
[01:49:37] זה בהחלט ככה ויש לזה הרבה שורשים
[01:49:41] בהיסטוריה של צער תגיד ואם עכשיו ראש הקא האלוף דדובר
[01:49:44] קליפה מתקשר אליך ואומר לך מאריקה
[01:49:48] ההיסטורי מהניסיון שלך איך
[01:49:51] למי? מסתדרים בתוך באמת אינסוף סיפורי
[01:49:55] הגבורה והאומץ ומה שקרה
[01:49:58] ב7 באוקטובר, מאיפה אני מתחיל פה לעשות עבודה כדי
[01:50:02] לדעת למי אנחנו נותנים צלשים?
[01:50:05] Excellent question. Not when
[01:50:08] ורקליפה התקשר אליי, אני מניח שהוא לא התקשר,
[01:50:11] but I will
[01:50:15] בעצמך, אני לא, זה לא עניין של אמונה בעצמי,
[01:50:19] זה מפני שאני מכיר את דדו בר קליפה, ואני מכיר את.
[01:50:23] But, but I will say
[01:50:26] look,
[01:50:29] האמיתיים, זאת אומרת, כולל הסתערויות וכן הלאה, ולא
[01:50:33] מהדברים, הרבה דברים אחרים שעליהם קיבלו
[01:50:36] צלשים, היו דווקא כי אנשים לא
[01:50:39] understand the situation,
[01:50:42] שהיה בסיטואציה קרבית יודע על מה אני מדבר, סביבך
[01:50:46] רעש במאומה, אתה עושה
[01:50:49] איזשהיא פעולה לו דווקא כי אתה... מבין אפילו
[01:50:53] מה אתה עושה א' כי אתה אולי מתורגל וב'
[01:50:57] זה מה שאתה אתה קולט באותו רגע
[01:51:00] ובדיעבד התברר שהצטערת לבד או או
[01:51:04] עשית מעשה כזה או אחר כמות
[01:51:07] הדברים שהם
[01:51:09] גבורה
[01:51:12] במובן שאתה מודע לגמרי למה
[01:51:15] שאתה עושה ולסכנת המוות שעורבת לך
[01:51:19] ועדיין אתה מתגבר על זה ועושה היא לא גדולה.
[01:51:23] I can give
[01:51:25] אבל עכשיו בוא נחבר את זה
[01:51:28] לסיטואציה השבורה ש דיברתי עליה,
[01:51:32] ולרצונו, הרי בסופו של דבר מה הם ציונים לשבח, לא
[01:51:35] משנה איזה סוג של איתור זה, זה אמירה של
[01:51:39] הצבא כזאת רעב וקדש, כן, זה אמירה של
[01:51:41] הצבא, זאת ההתנהגות שאנחנו רוצים שאנשים
[01:51:45] יאמצו, בשביעי באוקטובר זה בעיקר
[01:51:49] באמת אנשים בודדים או או
[01:51:51] קבוצות בודדות. שלקחו על עצמם
[01:51:54] משימה, אה, בניגוד אגב לנגיד חלקים
[01:51:57] גדולים של הצבא ואתם מכירים את ה סיפורים
[01:52:00] כמוני, שלמשל של ניצולי בארי,
[01:52:03] שמטארים איך הם יוצאים מבארי ורואים את כל היחידות
[01:52:06] המובחרות של צהל עומדות בחוץ ומחכות לפגודה
[01:52:10] להיכנס, לא כי אנשים הם פחדנים, אלא כי
[01:52:13] אנשים, כי צבא הוא הוא מנסה לפעול
[01:52:17] ומאומן לפעול באיזה דרך מסודרת ועל פי פקודות, כי
[01:52:20] אחרת כל אחד פה התנגש ב... שני אז יהיו פה הרבה
[01:52:23] אנשים בהקשר הזה
[01:52:27] ואני מניח שגם לא
[01:52:29] לא בצבא יהיו כל מיני דברים שבהם כמו שדרון
[01:52:33] אמר יחלקו בשביל לא יודע אם בשביל להחליק פשלות
[01:52:37] אבל כדי שלא לא יתעסקו עם זה
[01:52:40] שהפיקוד שם נשבר והאורות לא היו נכונות וכן הלאה שוב אני
[01:52:44] אומר בהקשר הזה בלאגן מאוד
[01:52:48] גדול תהיה פה כל כך הרבה
[01:52:51] סיפורי גבורה. של לוחמים שסיקנו חיים וגם
[01:52:54] נהרגו באמת ולקחו
[01:52:57] יוזמה והתקפיות וגילו בתוך הכאוס שהיה ב7
[01:53:00] באוקטובר באמת שמענו זה רק מה ששמענו ורק
[01:53:04] מה שאנחנו זוכרים וזה בטח לא הכל יש בלי
[01:53:08] סוף איך איך אבל מתחילים לעשות את העבודה הזאת איך אגב מתחילים לעשות את העבודה
[01:53:12] הזאת מתחילים לעשות אה תראה בהיסטוריה של
[01:53:15] צהל אה ביקשו ממפקדים
[01:53:19] and...
[01:53:21] ו... אה, נגיד אחרי ששת הימים
[01:53:25] ממש אמרו ל ל אני אספר לכם
[01:53:29] אפילו סיפור אישי, אה, אבא שלי היה
[01:53:32] סמגד מילואים בצרכנים בששת הימים, הגדוד
[01:56:13] גשם, אמן, יאללה, ביי,
[01:56:15] ביי,
[01:56:18] Tonight on The Hive, a Maccabi Haifa
[01:56:21] שחזרה הרגע מהטיול הגדול, שלושתם ינסו להפוך למלך או מלכת הכברת
[01:56:25] שלנו, שזו משימה לא פשוטה בכלל כמו שראינו, אבל מעט
[01:56:29] אסטרטגיה, קצת מהירות, וגם אתם בדרך אל הכתר, תאספו את המשפחה
[01:56:33] ותהיומו למסך בשבע הכברת.
[01:56:35] Welcome to Tavor, I ordered
[01:56:37] ארבעה,
[01:56:43] Wow, what a bald spot.
[01:56:46] 200 years ago, what would they say
[01:56:49] זורקים אותם לאש,
[01:56:52] I suddenly start screaming, some teacher yells at me, the class, Daniel, stop
[01:56:56] לנבוח ועוף לי
[01:56:57] מהכיתה,
[01:57:00] I'd hit walls and eat my
[01:57:04] Adam. I feel
[01:58:13] like the girl whose parents
[01:58:17] Sim also orders me apple
[01:58:20] אפל. ארוחה וקינוח וקול
[01:58:24] הגדול עליי. אנטולי עושה יותר זמן, אבל איך שאתה מרגיש? לא לא, הכל
[01:58:27] טוב. הכל בסדר. איך לא סחסחתי ביניהם קודם, אני שואל את עצמי,
[01:58:31] First checkout, first.
[01:58:35] מאחרי החדשות בקאן 11 ובקן
[01:58:38] בוקס דווקא חמוד זה
[01:58:41] מיואב אה מכירה אותו לא נראה כזה יואב
[01:58:44] נכון
[01:58:47] Originally from a moshav, now he lives
[01:58:51] talk
[01:58:55] איתו
[01:58:58] I'm pleased. Who is this
[01:59:01] Come on. Nice to meet you.
[01:59:35] The veteran Jerusalemites know Shalom, our rhino,
[01:59:39] שנולד ביום חתימת הסכם השלום ההיסטורי בין
[01:59:42] ישראל למצרים,
[01:59:45] Riots, alarms, and.
[02:00:18] Hello, good morning. We have a news
[02:00:22] the main suspect in the corruption case
[02:00:26] in the center. Hadas Greenberg joins us on the line
[02:00:29] Hadas in the police are calling a serious
[02:00:32] corruption case. Yes,
[02:00:36] שנחספה היום על ידי יחה במסגרתה נצרו ראש איריית כפר
[02:00:39] of the Economic Company, public figures,
[02:00:42] ואנשי עסקים סך הכל 17 עצורים אנחנו מדברים על חקירה
[02:00:46] סמויה שהחלה. לפני שנה במסגרתה עלה שמכרזים בעירייה
[02:00:50] פעלו ביחסי שוחד כמעט בכל תחום אפשרי,
[02:00:54] מכרזים שהיו מחורים למקורבים, אנשי עסקים, גם עברינים, ובתמורה
[02:00:57] into her hands.