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[00:00:01] the monitoring stations to understand what is happening. At the same time, I discovered
[00:00:04] this morning that last Wednesday, there was already an exceedance of
[00:00:07] 69% in the
[00:00:10] gasoline levels
[00:00:13] in the area. No one reported it, no one said it. The school continued to operate
[00:00:16] as usual until yesterday. Yesterday they had an activity
[00:00:19] day, a field day, they were in the yard,
[00:00:22] and that's what our children breathed. It sounds like an insult to their
[00:00:26] lives, guys, it's outrageous, no less.
[00:00:30] From a place.
[00:00:33] I think it's time to move the school from there. I don't
[00:00:37] see fireworks coming out of here. Unfortunately, I have little
[00:00:40] faith. But at least the school. Meital, thank
[00:00:44] you very much. Thank you very much.
[00:00:47] We are now going out for a minute-long commercial, and after that, we will continue
[00:00:51] with all the updates from the disaster on the annual trip to the
[00:00:54] stream center.
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[00:02:11] Hello again, we are here, continuing our special broadcast following
[00:02:15] the disaster on the annual trip to the northern border. A student
[00:02:18] was killed by a cluster bomb explosion that apparently
[00:02:21] came from Hezbollah. 23
[00:02:24] injured were evacuated to hospitals. Soon we will have
[00:02:27] updates from the scene of the incident. At the scene of the
[00:02:30] heavy disaster and also from the hospital where the injured are being evacuated, they are starting
[00:02:34] to tell what happened there. But we want to open with the testimony of
[00:02:37] Tamir, one of the first people who arrived at the scene. This is how he sounded
[00:02:41] a short time ago. What did they touch? What happened? They didn't say, something
[00:02:45] probably exploded. I didn't even ask. I saw that there were many
[00:02:48] casualties, we started doing CPR on one of the children
[00:02:52] there, and I started
[00:02:54] doing lettuce with cucumbers
[00:02:58] on the on the on the rabbi. And on two
[00:03:00] children
[00:03:02] and on
[00:03:05] oh, on several teenagers who were there. So
[00:03:08] we are with you Orly El Keli at Rambam Hospital and Ruby Amar Sheleg at the scene. Let's start
[00:03:12] with you Ruby, what is happening there now after the students
[00:03:15] who were only emotionally affected by this
[00:03:19] incident were evacuated.
[00:03:21] Yes, Maya, let's get things straight for a moment. This is an incident that happened three hours ago,
[00:03:25] about 300-500 meters behind me, a group of
[00:03:29] students from a school.
[00:03:44] from Hezbollah, which apparently one of the students picked up
[00:03:47] on his way in the field. As a result of the explosion, 24
[00:03:51] teenagers, about 14 years old, were injured. One of them,
[00:03:54] apparently the one who held that item of ammunition, was killed. Three more
[00:03:57] were seriously injured, ten were moderately injured. And ten others
[00:04:01] lightly. The injured were evacuated with the help of Magen David Adom and Air
[00:04:05] Force helicopters and ambulances of various rescue agencies to hospitals
[00:04:08] in the north, Rambam, Ziv
[00:04:11] and Nahariya. And from an initial examination, as mentioned, it is an item
[00:04:15] of ammunition that was left here in the field. We are talking about an open area, a lot
[00:04:18] of vegetation in this area. It is impossible to clear every
[00:04:22] such spot in the field in the end. We heard the commissioner say here
[00:04:26] a short while ago, that he will recommend not...
[00:04:30] to hold trips in such places. It is really impossible
[00:04:33] to close this, it is a very big problem. But what, I want to show you the
[00:04:37] sign that KKL people put up a few weeks ago here
[00:04:40] behind me,
[00:04:45] yes, yes, these signs are located in several places in the Ramim ridge,
[00:04:49] and these are actually signs that prohibit, not
[00:04:52] that KKL can really prohibit, it's more of a recommendation, they prohibit
[00:04:56] entry to these areas precisely for this reason. The situation
[00:05:02] of the Ministry of Education that approves every trip, it allowed to hold
[00:05:06] this trip here behind us. I assume we will hear many more
[00:05:09] versions and many more arguments and attempts. To shift
[00:05:12] responsibility or blame from one side to another,
[00:05:16] but you can understand the very confusing messages, and this is an open
[00:05:19] site, not something that can be closed, a very
[00:05:23] beautiful site, a scenic route, and I want Yuval to take the camera aside for a moment,
[00:05:27] just so you can understand, look at the vegetation here, the
[00:05:29] greenery, someone who moves aside for a moment
[00:05:33] to relieve himself or to hike or anything else or
[00:05:36] cultivates in the area, cannot really avoid
[00:05:40] stepping on something that might be hidden in the vegetation. Throughout the war,
[00:05:44] we reported many times about falls in open areas. This is the meaning. These
[00:05:48] are the open areas. It is impossible to clean and clear every
[00:05:51] single corner. But Ruby, again, I return to this documentation that you are bringing us
[00:05:55] right behind you. We see this sign that you say was placed
[00:05:59] there only a few weeks ago. And here, an annual
[00:06:02] trip is approved on this route and in this tweet. The Ministry of Education receives approval
[00:06:06] for this event. And there is a very big question here, why should
[00:06:10] one warn against unexploded ordnance and on the other hand approve such
[00:06:13] a trip?
[00:06:16] You know? This characterizes so many things in the State of Israel. I want to take
[00:06:19] you back three weeks to the ambu crisis
[00:06:23] in the Kinneret. Even there, there is no authority that comes and says
[00:06:26] one decisive thing. So it's exactly the same thing. There is
[00:06:30] disorder, and I assume that because there is a very,
[00:06:33] very heavy price here that cost human lives. Young teenagers. So we
[00:06:37] will hear accusations and versions and 11
[00:06:40] attempts by every such body and every such
[00:06:44] person to cover themselves and shift responsibility, but the bottom
[00:06:47] line is a dead child
[00:06:51] and 24 other injured children, with a sign
[00:06:54] behind them that actually recommends or prohibits
[00:06:58] hiking and entering this area, and on the other hand, the Ministry of Education
[00:07:01] that says go out and hike throughout Israel. We will wait to hear from the Minister of Education
[00:07:05] in the coming hour. Thank you very much, Ruby. Orly Halacha, you are already bringing us
[00:07:09] testimonies of the young children who were injured and are receiving
[00:07:14] treatment at the hospital. Yes, that's right, so just a short while ago,
[00:07:18] you said we'll start with the Minister of Education, the Minister of Education announces, as of tomorrow, no
[00:07:21] trips to the North. We heard the commander say, we are with
[00:07:25] the army, we will consider, I will assume, here the Minister of Education is issuing
[00:07:29] a statement, as of tomorrow, no trips to the North, in light of what
[00:07:32] Ruby showed, the sign that was present on the hiking
[00:07:36] trail. So here at the hospital, Rambam, right at
[00:07:39] this moment, the teacher in his 60s
[00:07:43] is in the operating room. His condition is defined as serious. A total of three
[00:07:46] seriously injured people, the teacher and two other students, so one here at
[00:07:50] Rambam Hospital in Haifa in the operating room. At Galilee Hospital
[00:07:53] in Nahariya, a seriously injured teenager about 14 years old, and at Ziv
[00:07:57] Hospital in Safed, a seriously injured teenager about
[00:08:00] 14 years old. Here at the hospital, three more teenagers,
[00:08:03] about 14 years old, are injured in moderate and light condition. One
[00:08:07] of them tells the medical teams here, I don't know what
[00:08:10] happened, I just heard an explosion. That's how he describes it, I heard
[00:08:14] an explosion, I was thrown backward, we all fell on
[00:08:17] each other, and then I saw that I had blood on my legs and blood on my hands
[00:08:21] and we all started screaming and crying, we didn't
[00:08:24] understand where it came from and where this explosion came from. That's what he describes
[00:08:28] to the medical teams. The injuries are from blast and shrapnel
[00:08:31] injuries. They have already been moved to the departments. There are family
[00:08:35] members here, and teaching staff from the school
[00:08:38] also came to support the families, the social
[00:08:41] workers who are at the Galilee Hospital in Nahariya.
[00:08:44] Five more injured people are hospitalized, one
[00:08:48] as mentioned is in serious condition and the rest are in moderate and light condition. And at
[00:08:52] Ziv Hospital, one is in serious condition, also brought there by helicopter
[00:08:55] yes, and the rest are in moderate and light condition. All
[00:08:58] of them with the same blast
[00:09:01] and shrapnel injuries. It is still unclear which of them will still
[00:09:05] need surgery to remove the shrapnel, but
[00:09:08] currently they are all in the departments and have undergone an initial
[00:09:12] assessment and it is likely that in the coming hours we will see more
[00:09:15] of the injured arriving at the operating rooms. The first, of course, are
[00:09:19] the seriously injured and as we said, the one killed
[00:09:23] in this terrible explosion of the cluster bomb, this
[00:09:26] unexploded ordnance that is so
[00:09:29] terrible, at least that's what's happening here at Rambam Hospital. We
[00:09:33] are waiting for someone from the families to arrive, there is a very, very big
[00:09:36] pressure, especially on the seriously injured. We saw that family
[00:09:40] members came asking to be near the operating room. They are asking us
[00:09:43] now to leave them alone until they can
[00:09:46] calm down, until the tension subsides. They have already met
[00:09:50] with their family members, so we are here and we will bring the voices
[00:09:53] from here, of course, and everything, of course, as soon as there are announcements
[00:09:57] regarding the condition of the injured and the families can also
[00:10:00] make themselves available to talk to us. Orly, thank you very much.
[00:10:03] Roy Sharon, we continue to receive more and more details about
[00:10:07] this incident. Again, the IDF officially confirms, yes, it was a bomb that Hezbollah
[00:10:10] apparently fired and landed in an open area, as we used to say, yes,
[00:10:14] this was also the more likely scenario, because unexploded bombs from
[00:10:18] the IDF, the IDF usually knows about such bombs, a launch that
[00:10:21] failed, ordnance that fell, no matter who fired it, they can identify it.
[00:10:26] They usually know, and then they send bomb disposal experts there. Therefore,
[00:10:29] since this unexploded ordnance was not known because the trajectory is clear, it was more likely
[00:10:33] to assume that it was a bomb fired by Hezbollah. We didn't know how to say
[00:10:36] whether it was a fragmentation bomb or other ammunition, but here the IDF says it was
[00:10:40] a cluster bomb. What is the problem with these bombs? They are very
[00:10:43] small and they don't always look like an Iranian missile
[00:10:46] that fell in Israeli territory and has the shape of a missile and you can see
[00:10:50] it, and it's also easier to beware of it. These bombs,
[00:10:53] a cluster bomb, are many, many bombs that a missile releases
[00:10:57] when it falls or when it approaches the ground, what we are seeing now
[00:11:00] on the screen, it's small, it doesn't look like
[00:11:03] it's part of a missile, it doesn't look like something that can cause a lot of
[00:11:07] damage, and therefore it's possible that when people see it or hikers, there might even
[00:11:11] be someone who tries to pick it up to understand what it is, maybe it's some device
[00:11:14] that was forgotten, it's very possible that this was also the situation this time, yes, that's what
[00:11:18] most likely happened. Of course, you should not
[00:11:21] touch it and again we will say it, do not touch
[00:11:25] unidentified metal objects of this kind when you
[00:11:28] are walking around Israel. But
[00:11:32] it's not something
[00:11:34] that you immediately see and say, okay, there's a fragmentation
[00:11:38] grenade here, there's an Iranian missile here, there's an unexploded
[00:11:42] bomb here. It looks like something
[00:11:45] related to a battlefield but you can't necessarily
[00:11:48] know that it's a bomb and most likely that's what happened.
[00:11:52] A student picked it up, collected it. It looked like some
[00:11:56] souvenir, he put it in his bag, or wanted to take a picture with it,
[00:11:59] and then it caused an explosion. There's about a kilo of explosives
[00:12:03] there, and when it's standard explosives,
[00:12:06] it causes a deadly result. We want to go back to Rambam Hospital
[00:12:10] for a moment, Orly Kalit is bringing us an update
[00:12:13] from one of the senior doctors treating
[00:12:15] the injured, right, we are with Dr. Hani
[00:12:19] Bachus, head of the trauma room at Rambam Hospital in Haifa.
[00:12:23] Dr. Bachus, hello, good evening.
[00:12:25] You have already seen the injured after an initial assessment and one
[00:12:29] of them is already in the operating room, right? That's right, during the evening
[00:12:33] we received four injured people from the incident that happened in the North.
[00:12:37] We received three teenagers
[00:12:39] and one adult injured. They received initial treatment and then
[00:12:43] underwent examinations, mainly CT
[00:12:47] scans for diagnosis. None of the injured are
[00:12:50] in life-threatening condition. One of the injured is currently in the room.
[00:12:57] The three teenagers were admitted for continued observation at the
[00:13:01] hospital. One of them is under observation in pediatric
[00:13:05] intensive care. What can you tell us when you ask them
[00:13:08] that you were the first people they met after the first rescuers?
[00:13:12] What does one of the teenagers tell you? We don't get into
[00:13:15] questions beyond medical questions. The main
[00:13:19] questions are those related
[00:13:22] to the medical aspect in order to understand and assess the... situation, and that's what
[00:13:26] we did. It was clear that their injuries were shrapnel
[00:13:30] injuries in many body parts, and therefore
[00:13:34] they underwent several CT scans in order
[00:13:37] to locate any injuries that we needed
[00:13:40] to intervene and treat. And when you examine the injured, do you immediately understand what
[00:13:44] it is? The hospital here received so many soldiers
[00:13:48] who were injured in exactly the same way during
[00:13:50] the war. Is it immediately clear to you what it is? Ah,
[00:13:54] it's clear immediately. We also receive
[00:13:58] information before the injured arrive.
[00:14:01] When we also examine them upon their admission, we can
[00:14:05] indeed assess the main mechanism
[00:14:08] of injury, and it was clear that the injury was a shrapnel injury
[00:14:11] and we treated the injuries in this
[00:14:14] way. Thank you very much. Thank you too and good
[00:14:17] evening. So yes, this is Dr. Hani Bahur
[00:14:21] who says that none of them are in life-threatening condition. One of them is already
[00:14:25] in the operating room. That's the teacher of the field trip, 60
[00:14:27] years old. His injury was more complex. His condition is defined
[00:14:31] as serious. He is in the operating room.
[00:14:34] And the three teenagers are already in the departments, with one of them
[00:14:37] in pediatric intensive care, but as mentioned, their lives are not
[00:14:40] in danger. Orly, thank you very much, and again we see in the last
[00:14:43] hour, a chronicle of a disaster, you could call it that. They are starting
[00:14:47] to shift the blame from one body to another. The Ministry of Education
[00:14:51] that approved this trip. We saw the warning from KKL just a moment ago. On
[00:14:55] the screen, the police commissioner arrives, says, we are here to draw
[00:14:58] lessons with the IDF and the Ministry of Education, and we are here
[00:15:02] to ensure that such trips do not take place. We also don't know yet
[00:15:06] where annual trips will be canceled, whether it's just in the North or later,
[00:15:09] but yes, even the Minister of Education refers to the matters
[00:15:13] and says not to enter into conspiracies too quickly,
[00:15:15] to use only verified information, because currently there are indeed many
[00:15:19] question marks. Right, he is supposed to give the declaration
[00:15:22] in about an hour at the hospital there and refers to all
[00:15:25] the claims made against him. Meanwhile, he issues a rather concise statement, he writes that it is
[00:15:29] a difficult incident and so on, and then says: I ask to act responsibly, to avoid
[00:15:33] disseminating unverified information while the details of the incident are still being clarified, meaning
[00:15:36] mainly recommending. To be careful. If you are saying, we will see
[00:15:40] a ping-pong of shifting responsibility in this case too. Usually in the State of
[00:15:43] Israel, what happens is this,
[00:15:45] but then I say yes, but I don't know,
[00:15:49] Roy, immediately after they finish the Fly Dubai
[00:15:52] investigation, we will also get the conclusions about this disaster.
[00:15:56] We will now take a short break. Of course, we will continue
[00:15:59] to update all the time about the disaster in the North, but among other things,
[00:16:03] we will have the following topics: Will the hacking of Yonatan
[00:16:06] Urich's phone be investigated? How does the Likud campaign
[00:16:09] look when the same thing happened to Gantz? The daily war
[00:16:13] on Israeli roads where a person was attacked and waited an hour for the police to arrive. What
[00:16:17] did he do? And also the demand from the police to investigate who leaked the testimony
[00:16:20] and information about Mali and Liel Yaalomi. Two minutes and we will, of course,
[00:16:23] continue with all the updates
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[00:18:59] Thank you for joining us. We talked a lot in recent weeks about the damage
[00:19:03] caused by the Gaza film, but that is probably nothing compared to the footage
[00:19:06] published on.
[00:19:43] Natan, how much can such footage change public
[00:19:47] opinion, how much impact does
[00:19:49] this program have?
[00:19:52] 60 Minutes is the flagship news program of
[00:19:55] CBS. Lesley Stahl, one of the most
[00:19:59] respected documentary reporters in the United States, but
[00:20:03] we also need to put an asterisk here. This is television
[00:20:05] that is broadcast,
[00:20:07] from back in the day. It's not that young masses sit
[00:20:11] at night to watch 60 Minutes. It has a lot of
[00:20:15] value and it has a lot of importance for this program. It's not that it spreads
[00:20:18] like wildfire or really influences. And we also need to remember this
[00:20:22] specific issue of settler violence against
[00:20:26] Palestinians in the West Bank is not a new issue in American
[00:20:29] or global media at all. Even in Israel, by the way, they are already covering it,
[00:20:33] it's such a story, so
[00:20:35] it doesn't expose the American public for the first time to
[00:20:39] this issue. This is an issue that definitely exists and it also exists in the political system,
[00:20:43] there is a lot of talk about it unlike other things,
[00:20:46] and unlike the situation in Gaza, this
[00:20:49] issue of violence in the West Bank does
[00:20:52] indeed capture the attention of the American political system. And it crosses Republican
[00:20:56] and Democratic lines when looking at the impact on public opinion or is this something that is truly
[00:21:00] more inclined to discussions in elections, mainly from Democratic
[00:21:04] candidates?
[00:21:07] Generally, the distancing from Israel is
[00:21:11] more on the Democratic side and somewhat less on the
[00:21:14] Republican side. But this specific issue of violence against
[00:21:17] Palestinians is an issue that crosses party lines. One of the main
[00:21:21] spokesmen against this is Ambassador Quay, the Ambassador
[00:21:24] to Israel, a right-wing Christian, conservative appointed by
[00:21:27] Trump. He is one of the main people calling to stop this,
[00:21:31] so this is really an issue that manages to cross party lines. But for example,
[00:21:34] a week and a half ago, there was a vote in the Senate,
[00:21:38] a group of Democratic senators, they
[00:21:41] proposed to condition aid to Israel on an investigation
[00:21:45] into violence in the territories, also talking mainly about
[00:21:48] the killing of nine American citizens since
[00:21:51] 2022. Almost all Democrats, except for one, the well-known
[00:21:55] John Fetterman, voted in favor of this resolution. All
[00:21:58] Republicans, except for one, voted against. So yes, there is a partisan
[00:22:01] division here. If you take into account that probably in the upcoming
[00:22:04] midterm elections, there is a chance that the Senate will flip and a very big chance that the House of Representatives
[00:22:08] will flip, such proposals will also start to pass in Congress. That Israel
[00:22:11] is facing a wave of extensive sanctions in Europe, something that will probably
[00:22:15] expand and not be limited only to the individuals and entities
[00:22:19] we have heard about until now. Many say, well, we have the United
[00:22:22] States, how long will that last if midterm elections are actually held
[00:22:26] and we see the situation
[00:22:27] reversed?
[00:22:30] There will always be the United States, the question is what the United States will do
[00:22:34] on this specific issue, for example, steps can be expected. It should be remembered
[00:22:37] that during the previous administration, the Biden administration imposed
[00:22:40] personal sanctions on individuals
[00:22:44] and several organizations in the settlements due to such
[00:22:47] acts of violence. They were all revoked by Trump, the kind of things that
[00:22:51] Congress has less control over, but they will definitely be on
[00:22:54] the agenda again after the elections. We can expect
[00:22:57] changes when Democrats, if and when
[00:23:00] Democrats control both houses of Congress, both declaratively
[00:23:04] and by passing all sorts of resolutions, condemnations, calls
[00:23:08] for sanctions, things like that. There are limitations in the end to how much Congress can deal
[00:23:11] with foreign policy. The central issue that Israel
[00:23:14] will have to look at is the question of weapons. Every sale
[00:23:18] of weapons, whether from American taxpayers' money or from
[00:23:21] Israelis' pockets, the Israeli government, every such deal must
[00:23:24] pass through Congress. Democrats have already made it clear
[00:23:28] that they will block deals for heavy bombs,
[00:23:31] for JDAMS,
[00:23:34] for even planes that they think could. There are also Democrats
[00:23:37] who say that arms sales to Israel for defensive purposes should be stopped
[00:23:41] or conditioned. This will be the next struggle, for Israel
[00:23:44] to convince the Americans that what Israel does with the weapons it buys
[00:23:48] from them is within the law. Thank you very much. I want us to see another
[00:23:51] segment from the investigation, moments after this confrontation we saw on camera,
[00:23:55] this is how it looks when a soldier arrives there.
[00:23:58] just as things were getting out of
[00:24:00] hand.
[00:24:04] captain in the Israeli army turned up, seemingly out of
[00:24:07] nowhere. the soldiers had to go down the road to
[00:24:11] rescue the last two activists and then he told all of
[00:24:14] us to clear out. but are you going to let the
[00:24:18] boys go back there? that's my question.
[00:24:50] all that he doesn't remember his name at Ariel Kahana, these images
[00:24:53] occupy, occupy foreign media, on social media it
[00:24:57] explodes with millions of views, and as Nathan
[00:25:00] said, it comes, it's in the Republican administration, Ambassador Alter
[00:25:04] spoke about it, Ambassador Kvivi really
[00:25:07] loves the settlement enterprise and completely
[00:25:11] talks about Israeli terrorists who cause damage
[00:25:15] to the world. First of all, it's really immoral
[00:25:18] and it's not... it's not Jewish what they did there, the harm
[00:25:22] to the villages is a crime on a nationalist background. They don't have a personal
[00:25:26] conflict with some villager. They don't even know the house of those they are going after when they enter the village
[00:25:30] at two in the morning. Beyond that, on the ethical side, it is clear that it
[00:25:33] harms the settlement, it harms the State
[00:25:36] of Israel. The vote he talked about could harm
[00:25:40] American aid. It's billions in security aid that
[00:25:44] the United States gives us. This time, this vote
[00:25:47] was prevented, meaning postponed, but who knows
[00:25:50] what will happen after the midterm elections? Uh, the State
[00:25:53] of Israel doesn't really deal with it, but okay, so the State of Israel doesn't
[00:25:56] deal with it. Everyone talks about the damage, but the politicians,
[00:26:00] whether by their silence or not. Many times they also back
[00:26:04] these rioters. What a shame that the elections will soon pass and then
[00:26:08] maybe we can expect more from our politicians because
[00:26:11] now is a period where I think there are those who refrain from expressing a very
[00:26:15] clear position. Yes, they express a clear position
[00:26:18] at some point. What do you mean? Yes, Bezalel Smotrich wrote an article
[00:26:22] in his sector's newspaper and stood against
[00:26:25] this. In Hagey Segal, you know, the names that are kind of inside, also Rabbi Eliakim
[00:26:29] Levanon, also Rabbi Eliakim Levanon wrote that it was not included.
[00:26:35] Still, it's a group that to deal with it, you need more than just saying
[00:26:39] once a month that you condemn violence. This is something that requires action. Someone
[00:26:43] like Kolaritz, in this case, has a tick in the Ministry
[00:26:46] of Defense. Maybe he can do something about it instead of just writing in the newspaper
[00:26:50] on Twitter. You didn't ask if they condemned a year ago. I say yes,
[00:26:53] they condemned a year ago. The fact that they condemn, they always condemn. Okay. There is
[00:26:57] no one in the Israeli leadership who supports these things. Every time there is
[00:27:01] such an event, we hear it from wall to wall. It should be said, by the way, it should also
[00:27:04] be said, since there are two or three listeners, after all,
[00:27:08] and perhaps we are also concerned with Israeli current affairs, so yes,
[00:27:12] there is wall-to-wall condemnation within Israeli society
[00:27:15] and Israeli politics. Is enough being done? Clearly not. I think we have
[00:27:19] a consensus around this table. Last week there was the
[00:27:22] incident in Mitzpe Jericho where policemen who came to arrest
[00:27:25] a suspect in Jewish terrorism or nationalist crime,
[00:27:29] I don't even know what he was suspected of, were attacked.
[00:27:32] And now it turns out that there might be members of
[00:27:35] Knesset themselves involved. Where
[00:27:38] is the police here at all? Kroyzer acts like the police who were
[00:27:42] attacked. Ben Gvir, according to reports, came there and did not
[00:27:45] give support to the policemen. So it's not really
[00:27:48] that the leadership of the State of Israel really wants
[00:27:52] to act against these rioters. We have now reached six
[00:27:55] at the polls.
[00:28:00] So here's a brief summary. President Herzog says: I will do everything
[00:28:04] in my power to prevent more elections.
[00:28:06] I will really, really do everything I can to prevent
[00:28:10] repeat elections. Naftali Bennett retracted after giving
[00:28:14] the option of a government with Netanyahu. As long as we accept
[00:28:17] the basic principles, I have no
[00:28:21] problem with Netanyahu being a minister in our government. I will start
[00:28:25] very clearly. Netanyahu cannot be in the Israeli government
[00:28:28] for another minute. He must go home.
[00:28:32] And also. Ofer Winter returned fire today. An
[00:28:35] hour has passed and Netanyahu has not released a film, a video, about me.
[00:28:39] So I admit. I will say that whoever is to blame for inciting the right
[00:28:43] is Benjamin Netanyahu who does not stop and does not relent and shoots us
[00:28:47] in the back even though we are a right-wing government. Yes,
[00:28:50] and the poll published last night on Kan News indicates a change, even
[00:28:54] a reversal in the bloc picture. Netanyahu's bloc strengthens to 53
[00:28:57] seats. Try to explain this to me, Shahar will start
[00:29:01] with exactly what. First of all, Netanyahu's bloc is strengthening mainly
[00:29:05] because suddenly Ofer Winter passes the threshold, and that's mainly what
[00:29:08] adds to Netanyahu's bloc. Yes, but you are looking in the end at the long-term
[00:29:12] trends, you see that Netanyahu's bloc remains more or less in these
[00:29:16] numbers, 52-53, and the opposition bloc simply drops by five
[00:29:19] months, they dropped nine seats, even seven seats in the last
[00:29:23] two months. It happens
[00:29:26] that two events occur in the political map
[00:29:30] of one, two and a half mandates of the owner.
[00:29:33] They return to the table because of the connection of the Arab parties and two
[00:29:36] the party of Handel and Zlicha suddenly passes the blocking and therefore
[00:29:40] enters and we kind of associate it with the space between the blocs, but in fact it is part of the Gush
[00:29:44] Eisenkot, meaning the Gush is really on 54 because they do say we are not
[00:29:47] in any bloc but their message sheet
[00:29:50] completely matches, meaning they will not sit with Haredim, they will not sit with Arabs, they will complete
[00:29:54] 61 exactly like Binet for Eisenkot but they will not complete
[00:29:57] 61 with the Arab parties. There is no difference in the message sheet between them and Liberman for
[00:30:01] that matter. This house, but we attribute them between the blocs, because they say, we are
[00:30:05] not exactly with them in the bloc, but if you look at it and say okay, new mandates
[00:30:09] have joined the game, both from Handel and Zlicha, and also the mandates of
[00:30:12] the Arab parties, and yet Netanyahu's bloc remains the same, Eisenkot's
[00:30:16] bloc is falling, so that means that something in the numbers, meaning Netanyahu
[00:30:19] has strengthened over time, it's not such a significant strengthening all at once, but
[00:30:23] a slow strengthening of his bloc relative to the statistics, and Yarah, I
[00:30:26] assume you also saw and understood what we showed here earlier
[00:30:30] and you say to yourself what. I don't
[00:30:33] want to ruin it for you, I think it's pretty clear he was joking
[00:30:36] in the first video, because if you watch it with the question, the question
[00:30:39] was, if he accepts your
[00:30:43] terms, will you sit under Netanyahu? He said, if he accepts our terms, he
[00:30:47] can sit under us, but no wait, but
[00:30:50] this soundbite comes out whether it was a joke or not, the partners in the bloc
[00:30:54] claim it was serious, right? So that's the part I would
[00:30:57] focus on, the partners in the bloc made a big deal
[00:31:01] of it. Who gave this half-joke
[00:31:04] at some conference in front of students,
[00:31:07] uh, when it's not legally possible at all, yes, Netanyahu cannot be
[00:31:11] prime minister, he has an indictment, in any scenario he is.
[00:31:15] A. a joke, B. impossible, C. politically
[00:31:18] illogical, and also on this, the change bloc managed
[00:31:22] to have a half-day fight, during which everyone issued statements
[00:31:26] and statements, a response of counter-attack, and Benett
[00:31:29] was forced to say that he clarifies
[00:31:32] that he was joking and he didn't mean it, and everyone said, but we suspect him
[00:31:36] that maybe he actually meant it, meant
[00:31:38] what, it's really great that in this bloc
[00:31:42] they manage to fight over nothing, it somewhat explains maybe why indeed.
[00:31:45] In two months, suddenly seven mandates disappear or nine mandates in five
[00:31:48] months, because you see that this bloc is mainly busy with internal
[00:31:52] wars, there is no strategic thinking except for some meeting and signing a document
[00:31:55] to upload a joint picture from Yair Lapid's house, there is no joint
[00:31:59] strategic bloc thinking, Netanyahu will tell you all day and every time we
[00:32:03] ask them about this issue, the Knesset members of the parties will tell you why we have
[00:32:06] four parties, we are organized, we have no vote leakage, everything remains
[00:32:10] relatively within the body except for Handel Zlicha and Ben Gantz, but okay, yes, but Handel
[00:32:14] Zlicha and Ben Gantz.
[00:32:25] In the end, the Knesset members who talk to us from these parties are busy all day slandering each
[00:32:29] other instead of focusing on the strategy of how
[00:32:32] to attract votes from Netanyahu's bloc instead of really
[00:32:35] thinking like that, you know, at the time Eisenkot, even a year ago, sat
[00:32:39] with them and mapped it out for them and told them, look, this is
[00:32:43] Naftali Bennett needs to bring the, uh.
[00:32:48] He literally divided it for them, and instead of actually making some division of who goes
[00:32:52] where or strategic planning of who is going to be, you see that Gadi Eisenkot today
[00:32:55] is campaigning on "vote for me, I'm the largest party." You see that the attacks are
[00:32:59] really Naftali Bennett says something like that as a joke and everyone runs to try and drink his
[00:33:02] mandates. The internal cannibalism is what occupies everyone, and maybe
[00:33:06] that's why they really don't succeed in asking, but you deal with this. What
[00:33:10] do they tell you? No, this is what will help us, if you
[00:33:13] know, if he goes down. And I will go up. This is what will help us win
[00:33:17] against Netanyahu. In the end, in practice, it doesn't work. Ah, Netanyahu's
[00:33:20] advisor, Yonatan Urich, promises that he will sue whoever leaked communications from
[00:33:24] his WhatsApp. Remember the last time a breach was exposed
[00:33:28] right before elections? It was to Benny Gantz's mobile phone
[00:33:31] in 2019, 2018? Remember? Right
[00:33:35] before. Pay attention to how the Likud campaign knew how to exploit the
[00:33:38] situation. While I
[00:33:40] instructed to break into Iran's
[00:33:44] nuclear archive. Iran hacked Benny Gantz's mobile phone.
[00:33:48] Netanyahu hacked Iran's nuclear archive.
[00:33:51] Gantz, if you can't protect your phone, how will you protect
[00:33:54] the State of Israel? Embarrassing. If Gantz couldn't
[00:33:58] protect his phone, how will he protect our
[00:34:01] country? Lapid and Gantz in a panic,
[00:34:04] because Iran hacked Gantz's phone.
[00:34:07] The thought that a prime minister in Israel would be subject
[00:34:10] to blackmail by Israel's number one enemy
[00:34:14] is... In this
[00:34:38] case, since he is supposedly a private citizen, it is not
[00:34:41] clear, there is no official state body that...
[00:35:15] Since he is supposedly considered a private
[00:35:16] citizen, our compassion, of course, for those
[00:35:20] whose communications
[00:35:21] are leaked,
[00:35:25] you can check for yourself. No, you are not registered, I don't have that
[00:35:28] software, first of all, you shouldn't even pay attention, you shouldn't even
[00:35:32] pay attention,
[00:35:34] even,
[00:35:37] I can also ask you, you wrote, he doesn't ask about
[00:35:40] the recording, check inside, so I say, you shouldn't even pay attention to any
[00:35:44] correspondence.
[00:36:08] I think we should feel very sorry for those whose writings are spread. I
[00:36:12] think this is certainly
[00:36:14] something that should teach us something about modesty or about
[00:36:17] the arrogance of all of us when we connect to various
[00:36:21] virtual agents. Of course, the question is
[00:36:23] whether there is any reason to fear for the Likud campaign?
[00:36:27] That more secrets will be exposed along the way, even if we don't talk about them here in the studio, so I don't
[00:36:31] know, and I don't think anyone knows. I assume there are many people who are currently
[00:36:35] really worried about what communications of theirs will come out or not,
[00:36:39] but apropos what Yarah said earlier, and I agree with that, this campaign is not effective, meaning you
[00:36:42] look and you ask those who do deal with it, who deal with data and research
[00:36:46] which campaigns are effective on whom? And you see that among what are called
[00:36:50] the switchers, okay, those who change sides, the people who are targeted to
[00:36:54] move them between the blocs, negative campaigns.
[00:36:57] Against a candidate, certainly, you know, when the change bloc tries to attract
[00:37:01] people who once voted for Netanyahu, campaigns against him
[00:37:04] harm them greatly, and therefore they try very hard to understand how I show this
[00:37:08] to people, but not for them to see it, but for the audience that is deeper within the bloc,
[00:37:12] these are not campaigns, these are pictures that are coming today from Class 10.
[00:37:15] Breslov Hasidim who are arriving in an organized manner at a demonstration
[00:37:18] demanding that Daniel travel to Uman quietly in prison, that they created them
[00:37:22] well, there are no more children, they are not yet deserters, but certainly among all
[00:37:26] the other things that happened today, this also happened. This is what it looks like before the children arrive, or
[00:37:30] is it when they already arrive? It's already in the beginning, it's
[00:37:33] such processes as time went by. In total, hundreds of children
[00:37:37] from the Breslov Hasidic movement from the Torah schools of the Breslov Hasidic movement
[00:37:40] arrived today during the school day. They arrived by organized buses from all the different
[00:37:44] factions within this Hasidic movement, almost all of them. On their way, they brought them
[00:37:48] to the military prison to hold a protest rally there. The Breslov Hasidic movement was
[00:37:52] a Hasidic movement that is associated with more than anything else with the journey
[00:37:54] to Uman, and this year thousands of.
[00:38:14] We returned to school because all the yeshivas returned to school, so we can
[00:38:17] also take them out to the organized protest, which, by the way, is against the law,
[00:38:21] against the unequivocal instructions of the Ministry of Education, it is forbidden for students, certainly not
[00:38:24] children to participate in.
[00:38:27] Organized protests. The Ministry of Education says we will investigate and deal with it.
[00:38:31] We'll wait. It seems to me that the Ministry of Education has more urgent matters to deal
[00:38:35] with right now. Friends, thank you very much. The Mayor of Kfar Saba
[00:38:38] and his wife were arrested today as part of a broad investigation on suspicion
[00:38:41] of corruption. The economic company in the city allegedly
[00:38:44] rigged tenders in exchange for bribes. These question marks arose already
[00:38:48] in an investigation that was broadcast right here two years ago in the series of reports "City
[00:38:51] Land." I wanted to convene a board meeting, I had many questions
[00:38:55] and I didn't get answers. I tried to understand who? Today, the point I requested
[00:38:59] is a board member, meaning I received approval, he has a right
[00:39:01] to vote, and I didn't have to receive an answer. There is a tender
[00:39:05] that seems to have been rigged so that a specific person would win
[00:39:09] it, for a new position. There are works that we don't know about, no budget,
[00:39:13] no company, no work plan.
[00:39:16] We tried to examine the conduct of the economic company in Kfar Saba in recent
[00:39:19] years and encountered quite a few problematic issues. Here,
[00:39:23] for example, something that happened almost four years ago when the Kfar Saba
[00:39:27] Economic Company decided to install
[00:39:30] solar panels on the roof of a school in the Lower Galilee, without
[00:39:34] any approval from the Ministry of Interior. Yes, Oren Aharoni and Deputy Commissioner Eli
[00:39:37] Judah are joining us now. Hello to
[00:39:40] both of you. Let's start with you, Oren, because what we saw here
[00:39:44] in your investigation is actually the infrastructure that eventually starts
[00:39:47] this investigation. Look, in the end, this is a report we broadcast
[00:39:50] two years ago,
[00:39:54] exactly two years and a month ago. And we found
[00:39:56] that I. power at all over the economic company, meaning, the one who manages everything
[00:40:00] there is the mayor who was arrested today, and the manager of the economic
[00:40:04] company who was arrested today, the mayor was also arrested with his wife, and we hear
[00:40:07] stories and we hear about tenders that pass without supervision, and we hear about
[00:40:11] money that passes without supervision, and we hear about all sorts of
[00:40:14] conducts where there isn't even a board that approves all
[00:40:18] these things, and we tried to find out what is happening, how such a thing
[00:40:21] happens, how it is possible that so much money, we're talking about millions,
[00:40:25] even more than just a few millions. passes and it's public
[00:40:29] money, passes like that without a problem, without approvals or
[00:40:33] with retroactive approvals or all sorts of things like that that seemed suspicious
[00:40:36] to us, of course we didn't get answers, but this is
[00:40:40] the entire basis of what
[00:40:41] led
[00:40:44] to the end today, to the arrests today, we
[00:40:47] also heard things then about the mayor's wife, we
[00:40:51] couldn't prove it then in the report, but these are stories
[00:40:54] we heard back then, and I'm talking to you two years ago, so I want to join
[00:40:57] you, Deputy Commissioner Eli Judah, how does
[00:41:01] this mechanism actually work as you understand today after they were
[00:41:04] arrested? We understand
[00:41:08] that interested parties in the field of local
[00:41:12] authorities
[00:41:14] operate their failures through the mayor's wife
[00:41:17] and bribe, pay money,
[00:41:21] in order to exert her influence on the mayor and on other
[00:41:24] officials, also on the CEO of the
[00:41:28] economic company of that city, and these funds that reach them, we already see
[00:41:31] in the reports that you published, um, are spent
[00:41:35] on clothes, on brands, on cars. How much do you manage
[00:41:39] in the end to also seize
[00:41:40] there?
[00:41:43] We seized hundreds of thousands of shekels today,
[00:41:46] uh, cars, luxury bags, jewelry and luxury
[00:41:49] watches, which we managed to seize in the suspects' homes
[00:41:53] and in their vehicles, and currently they are arrested here
[00:41:57] for interrogation, and the scope of the
[00:42:00] offense for those
[00:42:03] tenders that were sold, which are worth millions.
[00:42:06] Oren, I want to go back to you for a moment. You said earlier about the lack of supervision. How
[00:42:10] easily decisions can be made there without anyone,
[00:42:14] any authority, trying to supervise to understand if
[00:42:17] there is something wrong here. You spoke with those who tried to do it but
[00:42:21] simply didn't succeed.
[00:42:24] So I'll take you one level up, which is the Ministry of Interior. The Ministry of Interior is
[00:42:28] a body that is supposed to supervise these things as well, to see what's happening. The Israel Police started
[00:42:32] investigating, investigated, reached what it reached, but the Ministry of Interior
[00:42:35] was supposed to supervise these things, and if not before, then after
[00:42:38] the report. Who is the Minister of Interior? There is no Minister of Interior, there has been no Minister
[00:42:42] of Interior for a year. Even before, by the way, there was a Minister of Interior, the entire
[00:42:45] municipal issue is an issue that politicians usually don't want
[00:42:48] to touch, because there is, because it's about political
[00:42:51] power within the parties, but it's simply not
[00:42:54] dealt with, it's not dealt with. We started this series "City Land" about
[00:42:58] five years ago, we are already after 60 cities that we examined
[00:43:02] for levels of corruption or improper administration, such
[00:43:05] and others, and the Ministry
[00:43:08] of Interior in most of these cases that we manage to see does not deal
[00:43:12] with these issues, does not investigate these issues, and this is an issue that is
[00:43:15] under the supervision of the Ministry of Interior. The Ministry of Interior should have seen that there is no
[00:43:18] board, requested answers, made sure there is
[00:43:22] a board, made sure there is supervision, done supervision itself, looked
[00:43:26] at the numbers, seen what the numbers are, after all, this is public
[00:43:29] money, this is money of the residents of Petah, of the residents of Kfar
[00:43:33] Saba, when this money is used in such
[00:43:36] a way and tenders are rigged, Deputy Commissioner Judah.
[00:43:40] In the end, there can be, there can also be a danger to the public, not
[00:43:44] when things happen without the appropriate supervision in a process that is not
[00:43:47] proper, this is also, it's not just wasted public funds, it's also
[00:43:50] dangerous.
[00:43:53] Uh, I cannot deny what you are saying, there is indeed
[00:43:57] a danger here, but there is also a real harm to public interests within
[00:44:01] the city, instead of giving the tender
[00:44:04] to whoever is worthy of doing it, they give it to whoever pays
[00:44:08] money and also. This harms the oversight mechanisms that exist,
[00:44:12] because essentially there is a tailoring of the tender to the measurements of that
[00:44:15] of that briber. And when Oren
[00:44:18] talks about how we see this repeating itself in other authorities and other authorities,
[00:44:22] the Ministry of Interior should be there, but what about you? How much are you able
[00:44:26] to deal with such cases coming from the north, south
[00:44:29] and center?
[00:44:32] It's really a big challenge to manage such large
[00:44:36] corruption cases, because it drains a lot of manpower
[00:44:39] from the unit. But we don't give up and we
[00:44:42] will continue to investigate corruption
[00:44:45] in other local authorities.
[00:44:48] Currently, this case is in its early stages and is expected
[00:44:51] to last for several more months, because there is a
[00:44:54] bribery mechanism
[00:44:58] that includes many cases. Oren, give us an
[00:45:01] optimistic sentence to finish, because in the end, someone will wake up, they won't understand the
[00:45:04] noise, no, don't laugh, they'll understand that there are mountains of corruption here and it crosses
[00:45:08] sectors and crosses, crosses. Geographically, no,
[00:45:12] it crosses everything, it's, it's found in many places, and it's
[00:45:15] a kind of twilight zone, a twilight zone like that that really,
[00:45:19] is not always supervised, and sometimes it's a bit more
[00:45:22] sophisticated than what we see today, and it's really sometimes very
[00:45:26] difficult to get to these things, but it happens, many
[00:45:29] tenders in the field of contracting and in the field of projects
[00:45:32] in local authorities, they are tenders that many
[00:45:36] I have encountered tenders where I knew in advance who was going to win
[00:45:39] these tenders, who was going to receive the money,
[00:45:43] uh, many times it's hard to prove, to be
[00:45:46] optimistic, look, we need to fight it and we need to be
[00:45:50] transparent and we need to demand this transparency, both within the cities, both the residents, both
[00:45:53] opposition members, and of course also the police, Oren
[00:45:57] Haroni, Deputy Commissioner Eli Judah, thank you very much to both of you,
[00:46:00] thank you, thank you, Yes, and we are now returning to the north,
[00:46:04] in about an hour we are expected to hear the Minister of Education, at Rambam
[00:46:07] Hospital, where.
[00:46:10] some of the wounded are, the Prime Minister will also most likely arrive there. Liran,
[00:46:13] what do we know from the Ministry of Education regarding the possibility that trips
[00:46:17] to the north will be canceled. Currently, this is the option being considered, first
[00:46:20] of all, trips to the north, again, I can't understand the difference if
[00:46:24] there are also casualties in the south. We are all in a state of war, meaning if they cancel
[00:46:28] all trips in a certain area so as not to take a risk, then maybe they should cancel everything.
[00:46:32] It's not clear, it's still being examined by the Ministry of Education. We saw earlier the
[00:46:36] sign that Ruby filmed for us. Look,
[00:46:40] there's the emergency room call center for school trips, which the Ministry of Education operates, actually operated by
[00:46:44] the Society for the Protection of Nature, a nature call center, meaning also
[00:46:47] representatives of the IDF, uh,
[00:46:50] are supposed to sit there and give advice,
[00:47:06] in this area in the north because the war is over, the Ministry of
[00:47:09] Education pushed for it, of course, the yeshiva
[00:47:12] principal, the trip coordinator needed to be here, I don't
[00:47:16] want to say, it's likely they also needed to be in a police investigation to answer
[00:47:20] these things, they were investigated, of course there are still. still wounded in the field, I mean
[00:47:24] in the field, not in the actual disaster area, they were evacuated to the nearby Kibbutz Yiftach, there is
[00:47:28] a circle of students who need, I want to say
[00:47:32] a hug, but it's beyond a hug, someone needs to take care of them, and that's what they are doing
[00:47:36] now in Kibbutz Yiftach and also in the hospitals, to contain
[00:47:39] this event, their friend was killed and they have other wounded friends,
[00:47:43] and therefore they will need to examine how exactly to do it, to combine
[00:47:47] the investigation with the treatment of this event, of course. Liran,
[00:47:50] thank you very much, we will of course continue. Update here from the north, from the northern border,
[00:47:54] as soon as there are any further updates. Now for the next story,
[00:47:57] Shaked Biton is driving as he does every day on his way from Rishon LeZion to Tel
[00:48:01] Aviv, suddenly he is involved in a road accident, only after a car hits
[00:48:05] him, that car flees, Shaked gets into a chase
[00:48:08] that ends like this,
[00:48:11] I'm a police officer, follow me, I'm a police officer, follow me,
[00:48:15] follow me, get in slowly, I'm a police officer, I'm a police officer, get
[00:48:19] in, get in, stop.
[00:48:24] He says I'm a cop because the police just didn't arrive. Hello
[00:48:27] Shaked.
[00:48:29] Hello. You notice this specific car even before it
[00:48:33] hits you at all, right? Yes, there were two
[00:48:36] cars, two Toyota Corollas, to be honest. I deliberately
[00:48:40] say Toyota Corolla because there's something about this car,
[00:48:44] when I posted the incident, I literally didn't stop getting messages that people
[00:48:48] with Toyota Corollas drive like crazy on the roads. So basically two
[00:48:51] cars that seemed like some kind of race between them or I don't
[00:48:55] know what, driving really, really fast, and the other
[00:48:58] car basically cuts me off, I literally
[00:49:01] in the last second shifted the car, it scrapes
[00:49:04] my entire right side of the car, I literally
[00:49:08] don't know how it happened,
[00:49:10] by luck, and he continues driving,
[00:49:13] and I have adrenaline in my body and I don't understand
[00:49:17] the event, I understand there's someone who hits me and thinks he'll
[00:49:19] run away, you're chasing him at that moment. Wait a
[00:49:29] second to understand, okay, they hit me, but I see he's pressing the gas even
[00:49:32] harder, so I decided that I'm going to
[00:49:34] follow him and I drove until I caught
[00:49:37] him and he
[00:49:40] stopped and I was sure we were going to exchange
[00:49:43] details and I was like, I said, okay I'll give him a lecture, what are you
[00:49:46] running away for, but it wasn't an incident when I stopped
[00:49:50] suddenly I realize there are. Uh, three
[00:49:53] people in the car, that there's another
[00:49:56] car in front of them that stops, I see them, they
[00:49:59] literally open the door forcefully, curse me
[00:50:03] in Arabic, but the thing that scared me
[00:50:07] the most was that one of them I literally saw a kind of motion
[00:50:10] that he was taking something, putting it under his shirt, I saw
[00:50:14] it, it was quite dark, but I saw him putting something in and coming
[00:50:17] towards me, I understood that exchanging details was not going to happen
[00:50:20] here, and...
[00:50:22] And I had a second of this, I said, okay, I'll step on the gas and get
[00:50:25] out of there, but I don't know what happened to me,
[00:50:29] I decided that I wanted, that I wanted to win
[00:50:32] this situation, and I would not give up
[00:50:34] on them, and I just started screaming
[00:50:38] at them, I just yelled at them, I'm a cop, pull over,
[00:50:40] follow me, I literally started screaming
[00:50:43] at them, and you can really hear
[00:50:46] in the recording that he tells me, but I didn't
[00:50:48] run away, he believed me that I was a cop.
[00:50:52] Luckily, and that's good, you managed to trick him, but where are the real
[00:50:56] cops? You're trying to reach the police in the meantime, what's happening with
[00:50:59] that? So it took almost an hour for the police to arrive.
[00:51:03] At first they told me, don't be afraid of them, they're not
[00:51:06] that bad, or some weird phrase like that. I'm
[00:51:10] explaining to them, I'm also calling, and I'm also you're in such a
[00:51:13] situation, like I won't be politically correct for a moment, but there's
[00:51:17] something in the language and in the speech and in the cursing
[00:51:21] that we're a few days after October that takes you back to a completely
[00:51:24] different event and you feel like it's closing in on you
[00:51:27] and another car arrives and they curse
[00:51:30] you and I won't say what they said and they make gestures with their
[00:51:34] hands and some delivery
[00:51:37] driver arrives and drives against traffic, drives
[00:51:40] around my car, films me, curses me and all this I'm
[00:51:44] communicating to the police in the meantime and I'm screaming at them, when are you coming? What
[00:51:48] do you want me to do? What do you want? You tell me not to get out of the car,
[00:51:51] wait for us. And I tell them, what if they now take a rock and smash
[00:51:55] my window? What if what I said about being a cop
[00:51:59] doesn't hold water? And they understand that it's already, that it's
[00:52:02] like, what happens? What do you do? How does it end?
[00:52:12] The funnier thing is that he tells me, listen,
[00:52:16] he doesn't have insurance. I tell him, okay,
[00:52:20] like, no problem, it's a problem that I have insurance, I pay for
[00:52:23] insurance, I don't understand, I okay, everything
[00:52:26] is fine, and I tell him, okay, so what do I need to do? So he tells me, sue him
[00:52:30] civilly. I tell him, and what until
[00:52:33] then? What until then? What until then? All
[00:52:37] the costs, I need to bear. I spoke with my insurance
[00:52:39] company who also explained to me that in such a situation it's better
[00:52:43] for you to settle it with them, but when I explained to him that they are in East Jerusalem and there's no one
[00:52:47] to talk to and they also weren't exactly in favor of settling things with me, then he told me
[00:52:51] it's better for you to pay for it and not go to the police and not file a complaint and not do anything.
[00:52:54] I will say that I did go and file a complaint and the
[00:52:58] police officers were, when the police arrived, they really made me feel comfortable, I have
[00:53:02] to say that honestly, and I also don't blame the police officers
[00:53:07] for this mess, because with all the calls they have, I don't blame
[00:53:10] them, I only say one
[00:53:13] thing, that I think, I also brought up
[00:53:17] this whole thing, because in my opinion it's a bigger event, the upcoming elections,
[00:53:20] I think that a person drives here in Rishon
[00:53:24] LeZion, let them not tell us stories about the end of the world, in Rishon
[00:53:27] LeZion a person gets out of the car, drives to his partner in Tel
[00:53:31] Aviv and almost loses his life, and he still has
[00:53:34] to bear the cost of this whole event, this is something that must
[00:53:37] stop. I, there are all
[00:53:40] sorts of people who are now in some kind of campaign and they go and show us very
[00:53:44] nice videos about what about how they talk to
[00:53:48] people who are behind bars, and I say
[00:53:51] the opposite, we need someone who will not
[00:53:54] have people behind bars, this is the reason I brought
[00:53:58] it up, and it's simply
[00:54:01] disappointing that a citizen in the State of Israel who pays
[00:54:05] taxes who has insurance has to
[00:54:08] suffer from this whole event and you have, like, nothing
[00:54:12] to do and moreover I received messages from so many people
[00:54:15] from hundreds of people that this happens to them and this
[00:54:18] situation, it's not just that I said Toyota Corolla and it's not just that I said they speak
[00:54:22] Arabic because we're tired of talking about this political correctness, everyone knows what
[00:54:25] the problem is, everyone knows what the problem is, everyone tells us
[00:54:28] that there's a solution but the bottom line is a person can't
[00:54:31] drive in fucking Rishon LeZion. Yes, thank you very
[00:54:35] much.
[00:54:38] Thank you. Sofia Rosenfeld, an Israeli researcher,
[00:54:42] was sentenced to 3 and a half years in prison in Moscow. The reason
[00:54:46] is a donation she made five years ago to an organization that opposes
[00:54:49] Putin, a donation of, pay attention, only 80 shekels.
[00:54:53] Boris, Sofia's father and Leo's brother, joins us now. Hello
[00:54:56] to both of you. Hello, hello.
[00:55:00] Boris, when did you realize that Sofia was arrested and taken
[00:55:03] to prison in Russia?
[00:55:07] We understood this exactly
[00:55:10] on the day of the trial, which was symbolic on October
[00:55:14] 7th, she was arrested in the courtroom.
[00:55:17] until the trial she was
[00:55:20] עד המשפט היא הייתה
[00:55:22] free,
[00:55:24] but the indictment and...
[00:55:28] The raid on her house there
[00:55:30] in Moscow, was
[00:55:34] in.
[00:55:38] At the end of November, you got involved. What exactly do they claim in Russia
[00:55:42] she did, what is she
[00:55:43] accused of?
[00:55:46] So they accused her of donating to an organization that is considered
[00:55:50] illegal, an extremist organization, which is actually the organization of
[00:55:53] Alexei Navalny, the well-known
[00:55:56] opposition figure who passed away a few
[00:56:00] years ago,
[00:56:03] and actually.
[00:56:09] The death of anyone who contributes about 40 shekels today in Russia means a person is detained for a period of
[00:56:12] 3 and a half years, three and a half years in prison because of
[00:56:16] 80 shekels, is that what you understand is happening
[00:56:18] there?
[00:56:21] That's exactly what's happening there, right, but I can
[00:56:24] explain how it happened, it wasn't, it wasn't
[00:56:28] intentionally, she broke the law when she
[00:56:31] made a standing order to the bank.
[00:56:35] Every month a thousand rubles, the
[00:56:38] organization was completely legal, then she
[00:56:41] went on an expedition
[00:56:44] to the Arctic, she deals with Arctic
[00:56:47] geese, and she was there all
[00:56:49] summer 2021, and when she
[00:56:53] returned to Moscow, she canceled
[00:56:57] these payments, but both
[00:56:59] payments went out in August
[00:57:02] and on the first of September since then.
[00:57:17] We have a letter
[00:57:18] through this organization
[00:57:22] that deals with forms, but we can't
[00:57:25] Shubas Shubas Rosy,
[00:57:29] yes, she was found only on Thursday, we haven't
[00:57:33] had time to make contact, really, only the lawyer was and also an internal police
[00:57:37] yesterday. Is there any help you are receiving from the authorities
[00:57:41] in Israel? We know that in Russia there are often
[00:57:43] arrests of foreign citizens and attempts to use them.
[00:57:47] As leverage, that's what happened with Naomi Sacker, do they help you
[00:57:51] in Israel?
[00:57:54] Ah, let's just say this, they
[00:57:57] know, I sent a letter to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, they
[00:58:01] are dealing with it, but they
[00:58:05] say
[00:58:06] that,
[00:58:10] well, they can't influence
[00:58:13] the court process, but
[00:58:16] help. Humanitarian aid, a consul
[00:58:20] can visit her, yes, they will
[00:58:23] try to do that, look, for me personally,
[00:58:26] the timing is also
[00:58:30] significant, there are discussions about a political prisoner
[00:58:33] swap deal, there are discussions with the United
[00:58:36] States, and yes, in my opinion, the timing is indeed
[00:58:39] related to similar
[00:58:43] cases that
[00:58:45] were tried in that court
[00:58:49] with similar charges, she received a much
[00:58:53] higher sentence than the usual cases, and yes, in
[00:58:57] my opinion, there is clearly a political issue here.
[00:59:00] Good, we hope that they hear us here also at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs
[00:59:04] and of course whoever can exert pressure and help release
[00:59:07] Sofia. Boris and Lev, thank you
[00:59:09] very much, thank you very much, thank you, thank
[00:59:13] you very, thank you very, very much, I really hope there will be good
[00:59:17] news soon. Thank you,
[00:59:21] we will be happy, the Privacy Protection Authority asks the police to investigate who
[00:59:24] leaked the documents about Meli and Liel, Attorney Hedi Menachem Bar,
[00:59:28] hello to you, hello, you are asking for
[00:59:32] a clarification now from the police regarding the violation
[00:59:35] of privacy of Meli and Liel Yahalomi, what would you actually
[00:59:39] like to see happen?
[00:59:42] We contacted the head of the Privacy Protection Authority, Attorney Gilad Smama,
[00:59:45] who also contacted the police
[00:59:49] body called the internal privacy supervisor,
[00:59:52] a senior police position
[00:59:55] at the rank of Assistant Commissioner, asking to clarify
[00:59:59] the publications that on the face of things appeared
[01:00:02] to be leaks from the police regarding Meli and Liel
[01:00:06] Alumi, publications that we saw that contained a real violation
[01:00:09] of their privacy and on the face of things we did not find
[01:00:13] any need or justification that justified such a severe
[01:00:16] violation of privacy. When you talk about these publications, you are talking
[01:00:20] about their documentation from the moment they were found in Argentina, really
[01:00:24] the documents that were filmed inside the bus and at the station there, there was
[01:00:27] a series of publications, this is one of them, I will say
[01:00:31] that the need to publish information about them, when they were missing, is clear
[01:00:35] to us, for their location and concern
[01:00:38] for their safety, and even after they were found, the need to update
[01:00:42] the public that they were found and that they are safe is clear to us, however,
[01:00:45] after they were found. There was a series of publications,
[01:00:49] the videos you are referring to, but also subsequent publications that appeared
[01:00:53] to be publications that came out of the police investigation,
[01:00:56] for example, their conversations, for example, their searches in artificial
[01:01:00] intelligence, for example, information regarding their financial situation, and also
[01:01:04] last week information regarding their return date to Israel,
[01:01:08] which again regarding these publications we saw that on the one hand they are very
[01:01:11] very private, and we saw that they violate privacy,
[01:01:15] and on the other hand we did not see any justification. The need at this stage, after they have already
[01:01:19] been found, to publish them and hence the difficulty we asked
[01:01:22] to clarify. That is, from the moment we understood that there was no criminal
[01:01:26] offense involved or that there was a real concern
[01:01:29] that they would be kidnapped. At that moment you say you should leave them alone,
[01:01:33] also not to brief on the motive, even if
[01:01:36] the Israeli public really wants to know what happened to them, that's our problem, they are not
[01:01:40] suspected of anything, there was no such claim and on the contrary it was said that they are not
[01:01:43] suspected, ah, they were found and they are safe, and therefore
[01:01:47] information. Collected by the police for their location is
[01:01:50] information that should remain with the police
[01:01:54] Why do you think it was leaked anyway? We asked
[01:01:57] to clarify
[01:01:59] We have contacted the police for clarification at this stage. We will wait
[01:02:03] for their response. We asked for an internal clarification
[01:02:06] and also lessons learned and the findings will be forwarded to the head
[01:02:10] of the authority. I will wait for their response. I don't know what
[01:02:14] the circumstances were, but we did see a problem with
[01:02:17] the clarification. Do you think this will prevent the panic and these festivals
[01:02:21] next time something like this happens or is it the
[01:02:24] natural curiosity of Israelis? I
[01:02:28] understand the issue. But still, this is the Israel Police
[01:02:32] and it has a responsibility and as I said we have someone within
[01:02:35] the police for a year who is responsible for privacy, so
[01:02:39] I believe that through this clarification and setting
[01:02:43] norms and policies, also for future times, we will indeed be able to make a change.
[01:02:46] Attorney Hedi Menachem Bar, thank you very much to you, thank
[01:02:50] you. We already know augmented reality glasses, but that's
[01:02:53] mainly from games as part
[01:02:56] of tech conferences. Now they have also entered operating rooms.
[01:03:03] She meets the surgeons who are developing the next way
[01:03:06] to create more secure surgeries, maybe
[01:03:09] simpler ones. Here's a short clip from the report that will be broadcast
[01:03:12] in the newscast today. What we see is that we are looking at a CT
[01:03:15] on a 2D screen and our brain actually translates it into 3D.
[01:03:19] These glasses actually allow
[01:03:22] us to see the tumor and the anatomical structures really
[01:03:25] in 3D, like in reality, and today one of the researches we are examining
[01:03:29] and developing. This is a system that will allow us to project the model even during
[01:03:33] surgery, to allow the surgeon to have as much
[01:03:36] information as possible and as much accuracy as possible regarding where those
[01:03:39] structures we want to preserve are located.
[01:03:43] To the observer from the side it might look funny, but when you look
[01:03:46] through the glasses, a whole world is revealed, an additional
[01:03:50] and deeper layer of imaging on the physical
[01:03:53] space. This is the patient's image and here we see, you can see the tumor
[01:03:56] itself, and you can explore it from all sorts of angles. And see
[01:04:00] exactly where this thing is located. The system they are developing here allows
[01:04:03] to take advanced imaging several steps further,
[01:04:07] to place them in space, to explore them from all directions and also
[01:04:11] to project them directly onto the patient's body during
[01:04:14] the operation. You can see here the tools, the important
[01:04:18] blood vessels, we see the tumor behind the spleen
[01:04:21] and above the kidney, and at this stage I can already see
[01:04:25] where the blood vessels are and what I need
[01:04:27] to be careful of, what I.
[01:04:30] I'm saying what I will try not to damage and what and where
[01:04:33] the tumor is located during the current operation. What you see here
[01:04:37] is happening within the framework of a research led by Dr. Mor
[01:04:40] Bashiva, at this stage the surgical procedures themselves
[01:04:43] are not yet performed while he is wearing the glasses,
[01:04:47] for that he still needs to go through a few more stages, however,
[01:04:50] according to him, this is undoubtedly the goal. It's very similar to what it used to be
[01:04:53] when we drove, ah, we used to use a map or we
[01:04:57] would stop someone on the street to ask where. How do we, how do we
[01:05:01] actually reach the destination we need to reach, and today we already have
[01:05:04] applications like Waze, like Google Maps, and also surgeons
[01:05:07] need, the GIA of the
[01:05:21] are starting.
[01:05:35] Hello to you, a heavy disaster in the north, an annual school trip
[01:05:39] that was supposed to be experiential and enjoyable,
[01:05:42] ended with one dead and over 20
[01:05:45] injured. From an initial investigation, it appears that the projectile
[01:05:48] that exploded was a cluster bomb from
[01:05:51] Hezbollah. One of the students put the projectile
[01:05:54] in his bag and then that projectile exploded.
[01:05:57] We will immediately have all the updates from what happened.