M1 — Magyar nok 20260920 150500 UTC 395 transcript segments Google Cloud Speech-to-Text API (Chirp) + Gemini 2.5 Flash Non-Thinking Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:00:00] successfully disinfected, here Goodbye! practically, She desired nothing else from [00:00:03] with the exception of the left thumb, it got everywhere, yes. [00:00:07] However, when we look at the back of the hand, it is clear that while the right hand [00:00:10] was mostly covered, the left hand barely received any. [00:00:13] In such cases, we can decide to ask the person to thoroughly [00:00:17] disinfect their hands again before allowing them to the nursing ward. [00:00:30] thank you. [00:00:30] I really liked [00:00:37] it. I especially liked that a young [00:00:40] team approached healthcare from a different angle, [00:00:44] meaning, not healthcare problems, [00:00:47] but what we can solve. Someone who is not [00:00:50] an expert in these topics only sees that the doctor [00:00:54] washes their hands a bit under the tap, or with [00:00:58] disinfectants. wiping, that's it, but I wouldn't have thought [00:01:01] that it needs to be done so carefully, [00:01:05] and that it's so dangerous. The numbers were shocking, [00:01:08] and the fact that antibiotics are no longer omnipotent, that they don't solve [00:01:12] all problems, deeply touched me, because I consider [00:01:16] this device to be a great invention of the 21st [00:01:20] century. I'm sorry [00:01:22] that such a thing didn't exist in my time, that this is only [00:01:26] a discovery of the present era. Everyone [00:01:29] is waiting for speakers to apply to the academy. The stage is open, and those who would like [00:01:32] to personally listen to our scientists' lectures can apply [00:01:36] as audience members. Tomorrow, Dr. István Bitter, [00:01:40] a psychiatrist, will give a lecture about how 4% of adults [00:01:43] are affected by attention deficit hyperactivity disorder. [00:01:46] made her sensitive to Finally, [00:04:51] was three years old when she became [00:04:54] the retaliation a Dominican abbess. She dedicated her entire life to God, [00:04:57] spending it in prayer for the suffering Hungarian nation. [00:05:00] That is why she became the patron saint of Budapest. [00:05:04] Welcome, dear viewers. Today we present to you the life of [00:05:07] Saint Margaret of the House of Árpád, who lived here [00:05:11] on the old Rabbit Island, today Margaret Island. [00:05:14] Saint Margaret of the House of Árpád [00:06:16] was born in a time when the Hungarian nation reached a turning point, [00:06:19] and this influenced her entire life. [00:06:22] With the help of Sister Hedvig Deák, we will try to get some picture [00:06:26] of what kind of child and woman Margaret might have been, [00:06:29] and what her personality conveys to people today. [00:06:48] "Her parents, at least according to the sources, offered her to God [00:06:51] after her birth for suffering Hungary. [00:06:55] How common was it back then for someone, say a king, to make such a [00:06:59] gesture? In reality, it was not at all exceptional at that time for someone [00:07:02] to offer their child to serve God, in fact, [00:07:06] it could even be considered common [00:07:09] in a certain sense. That families [00:07:13] somewhat viewed their children as a [00:07:16] long-term investment, if I may use [00:07:18] that expression, yes. Firstly, and secondly, they believed [00:07:22] that this was, so to speak, like a [00:07:25] life insurance, in a way, that if their child was [00:07:29] consecrated to the service of God, then this would ensure the eternal salvation [00:07:33] of the entire family. In the royal family, however, [00:07:36] this was not so characteristic, [00:07:39] since in the royal family, [00:07:43] children were obviously subject to very serious [00:07:47] political interests, so to speak. So their careers, [00:07:50] marriages, etc., all had to serve the interests of the country [00:07:54] and the ruler. So in a certain sense, this was a [00:07:57] special gesture, a gesture of faith on the part of the royal couple [00:08:01] that they did this. There was such a gesture, but later the king [00:08:04] wanted to marry Margaret off, and she said no [00:08:08] several times. How did she have the courage to do that [00:08:11] as a woman back then? "To say no to a king [00:08:14] while young, in a convent, can only be understood [00:08:18] from Margaret's sense of vocation, that she dedicated her life to God [00:08:21] and only wanted to live for Him. This came entirely from within [00:08:25] her, and she completely identified with this [00:08:28] calling, and from this, it is understandable [00:08:31] that she also said no to the king. [00:08:35] It is very interesting that King Béla IV seems to have been a very pragmatic man, and when he saw [00:08:39] that the interests of the country demanded it, he thought [00:08:42] that Margaret should also be married off. [00:08:45] But Margaret had already taken vows, so [00:08:49] she was a nun and so on, [00:08:51] and she felt that she still wanted to serve Jesus. [00:09:30] This is a special thing, because this era [00:09:33] is precisely when women who make their own decisions [00:09:36] and express their own will appear [00:09:39] in history. Margaret's [00:09:43] aunt, Saint Elizabeth, is such a person, about whom it was recorded that she rode a horse like a man, [00:09:47] loved to gallop with her hair loose in the wind, [00:09:50] and here Margaret stands before us, this fragile little [00:09:54] nun, who contradicts one of the most powerful [00:09:57] kings of her time, her father, [00:10:00] and after that she silently and [00:10:04] patiently endures [00:10:07] inflicted upon her by her companions, [00:10:10] who are incredibly angry. because in his anger, the king [00:10:14] withdraws donations, and obviously a king's anger [00:10:17] is not good for such a community. She does the dirtiest [00:10:21] work, takes on the hardest [00:10:24] tasks. She cares for the sick, helpless [00:10:27] nuns, cares for her companions. [00:10:40] She does all this with humility in the knowledge [00:10:43] and in the spirit that she is [00:10:47] a living sacrifice for this homeland, [00:10:50] for this country, and this is visibly not [00:10:54] a burden for her. She does not mourn for herself, does not [00:10:57] pity herself, but she is a [00:11:00] lively and very sweet young lady. We are talking to Father Ferenc Berán [00:11:48] in the most authentic place on Margaret Island, here among [00:11:52] the ruins. "What might a day in Margaret's life have been like here on the island, [00:12:00] as a child, and then as an adult? I think [00:12:03] she must have thought a lot, she was much more mature [00:12:07] than her age. Family problems [00:12:11] suffering, and I think she herself suffered a lot. [00:12:15] It was recorded that here, in Veszprém, [00:12:19] she once stopped in front of the crucifix and cried [00:12:22] and asked who was on the crucifix, and they told her it was [00:12:26] Jesus, who died for us, and this was [00:12:29] so heartbreaking in her life, it was decisive [00:12:32] that someone died for us, and so slowly, slowly, [00:12:36] I think she realized that her [00:12:39] life was a sacrifice. I've never been to this part of Margaret Island. [00:12:55] Where are we now? In the place [00:12:58] where the monastery's church [00:13:01] was. Here was the sanctuary, [00:13:05] the sanctuary of the church, [00:13:07] and presumably the monks [00:13:11] took their [00:13:12] places here. [00:13:18] Can you tell us a little about this devotional object, what is it? [00:13:21] Yes, it's one of the jewels or prides of a parish priest. [00:13:25] "Recently, in the evening, we received from Cardinal Péter Erdő [00:13:28] a simple crucifix [00:13:31] containing a bone relic, [00:13:35] So she is here, this is an authentic [00:13:39] bone relic. It's interesting to connect the [00:13:42] crucifix with her bone and her life here. [00:13:46] Margaret, you know, died here on the island, [00:13:50] what do we know, where was she buried? Was she buried there?" [00:13:54] She was buried there, her grave was [00:13:57] there, and when the Turks occupied [00:14:00] the island, or rather Hungary and from that the island, [00:14:03] then the Dominican nuns took her [00:14:07] body to Pozsony, and [00:14:10] her body is still most likely there. [00:14:34] Saint Margaret, in her life and death, inspired countless artists, [00:14:37] and among others, the Esztergom Basilica and the Esztergom Christian Museum [00:14:40] also preserve devotional objects and artworks [00:14:44] that can be connected to her. [00:14:45] And representations of Saint Margaret [00:14:55] of the House of Árpád from the Middle Ages [00:14:58] are rare, at least - and especially so in Hungary, this [00:15:02] is undoubtedly true. What exists [00:15:05] is mainly across Europe and mainly [00:15:09] connected to the Dominican order. This is obviously related to the question [00:15:13] of Margaret's canonization, which already arose [00:15:15] in the second half of the 13th century, after Margaret's death, [00:15:19] and then was repeatedly attempted for centuries, but practically [00:15:22] only happened in the 20th century. So this obviously [00:15:26] intensively influenced her cult, [00:15:30] and also the appearance of representations [00:15:33] related to her cult. It is also very interesting to observe [00:15:37] that the various attempts at canonization, [00:15:40] the new and new attempts, [00:15:44] also increased the number of such relics. So [00:15:47] every time relics appear [00:15:51] that can be connected to such a canonization attempt. [00:15:54] Among the depictions of Saint Margaret of the House of Árpád, [00:15:58] the most famous artwork preserved in Hungary [00:16:01] is undoubtedly the colored [00:16:04] woodcut made in the second half of the 15th century [00:16:07] at the Esztergom Christian Museum. Sister Margaret stood out [00:16:10] among all of them [00:16:13] with her humility. God's unconditional love [00:16:15] and service filled her with spiritual peace and boundless [00:16:19] happiness. [00:16:22] life. In her convent work, [00:16:26] in the persistent care of the sick, in helping [00:16:29] the poor, and in prayer, [00:16:32] fasting, and the [00:16:34] mortification of her own body, [00:16:38] she was so zealous that many already revered [00:16:41] her as a saint during her lifetime. Many others, for example, [00:16:44] her sisters in the convent, did not like her excessive [00:16:48] zeal, and so sometimes understandably, sometimes merely out of envy, [00:16:51] they were mean to her or complained about her. Jesus Christ, however, granted [00:16:55] special grace to his chosen bride and servant, [00:16:59] who performed many miracles during her earthly life, [00:17:02] and experienced beautiful raptures. [00:17:05] Do you want the sun to shine in? [00:17:15] "Indeed, we would wish it from our hearts, but it is impossible, [00:17:19] for it is night. [00:17:30] What miracles do we know about? Firstly, there are miracles that happened [00:17:34] in her life, which are very [00:17:36] interesting. "Perhaps the one [00:17:40] that the sources describe in great detail is the miracle of the Danube overflowing, [00:17:44] for example, when they don't believe her that [00:17:46] Marcelus, the provincial, her confessor, [00:17:49] the head of the Dominican province, comes, and Margaret tells him [00:17:53] that not long ago the Danube rose so much, or the water level [00:17:56] rose so high, that it even entered the convent, and Marcelus says, well, that's just [00:18:00] a fairy tale. And then [00:18:03] Margaret prays to God that [00:18:07] she never lied, to show that she is right, and then the Danube overflows again. [00:18:11] So, these kinds of miracles also happen, [00:18:14] as well as those where Margaret sees into the hearts of others, [00:18:18] knows their thoughts, and there's also talk of healing [00:18:20] the sick in her life. Another very large group [00:18:37] of miracles are those that happened through her intercession [00:18:40] after her death. These generally, or [00:18:44] almost exclusively, happened at her tomb. Her tomb became [00:18:47] a place of pilgrimage very early on. Many came from all [00:18:50] parts of the country seeking healing, or wanting to receive some grace, [00:18:56] extensive list of these miracles, which [00:18:59] were included in the earliest sources. So these were precisely [00:19:03] documented, obviously with the means and medical knowledge [00:19:06] of the time. [00:19:08] But these are documented, who it was, what happened [00:19:12] to them, there are witnesses, [00:19:13] etc. [00:19:20] she not only prayed, but also mortified herself, [00:19:24] which is very strange for us. [00:19:27] What do you think about this, why was it necessary, why [00:19:30] did she need to give such a testimony to God? The medieval [00:19:33] person's relationship with the body was different. [00:19:37] So the idea that the body must be subjected [00:19:41] to the soul was an important program for the medieval person. [00:19:45] It's not certain that it came easier to them, but it was much [00:19:48] more conscious, and for monks, it was [00:19:52] much, much more central. So, on the one hand, there was [00:19:56] something in this that was a characteristic of monastic life at the time, [00:19:59] these forms of penance. But [00:20:03] besides that, there is also a part of this [00:20:06] that is specific to Margaret. Because she received a special [00:20:10] calling, not just as a nun, but also [00:20:13] as someone who wanted to do penance for the whole [00:20:17] Church. She even says this, [00:20:21] during the civil war between her father [00:20:24] and her brother, she says that she wants to offer her penance [00:20:28] for the whole Church, and in this way, [00:20:31] so to speak, to return God's love, [00:20:35] or to show her love for God [00:20:38] through these penances as well. So this is, so to speak, an intercession [00:20:42] for others for [00:20:43] her. [00:20:50] "She identified with the suffering Jesus, so she tried to experience [00:20:54] the sufferings that Jesus experienced, [00:20:57] and it was not self-punishment in the sense [00:21:01] that she did not suffer for her own sins, but she offered this [00:21:04] for the nation, and she became more and more [00:21:07] identified with this. [00:21:10] A few years ago, the Újszínház performed the play "The Sacrifice," [00:21:13] which depicts the life of Saint Margaret. Margaret consciously accepted the role of sacrifice [00:21:17] to save her homeland. Without her, posterity could not [00:21:20] call Béla IV the second founder. [00:21:23] Even after many years, [00:21:28] Margaret's personality retained its magic [00:21:32] in the soul of the actress who portrayed her. [00:21:35] Does anything from the role remain in the actor? [00:21:38] I think so, even if it's not obvious [00:21:41] in everyday life. At least I feel that something remained. [00:21:44] For example, what always attracted me [00:21:47] to Margaret was her rebelliousness, and I am probably susceptible [00:21:51] to that in my character. And the rebellion itself, [00:21:54] or the resistance, that [00:21:58] is something that still remained in me from Margaret, [00:22:01] yes. For a person today, [00:22:04] it is incomprehensible how [00:22:05] Saint Margaret of Árpád [00:22:09] was able to live as a young child in a convent, [00:22:12] among nuns, far from her parents. [00:22:15] I think for today's person, these things [00:22:27] are very far away and very, very [00:22:30] unattainable, so [00:22:34] this was what I tried very hard [00:22:37] to understand, how character develops [00:22:41] from the age of three in such a sense of mission, which I [00:22:44] struggled with personally as an actor. [00:22:48] And as a private person, [00:22:50] I always imagined my relationship with God as [00:22:54] an easy and intimate [00:22:56] and pleasant relationship. [00:23:00] In contrast, I couldn't understand where to put asceticism, [00:23:04] why God needs me to reach [00:23:07] a certain place through [00:23:10] pain, where we will meet God. [00:23:14] Why does Margaret choose systematic self-torture? [00:23:17] And obviously, that this is a ritualistic [00:23:21] thing, and in that time, [00:23:24] it was an accepted [00:23:27] and probably well-thought-out practice, [00:23:31] and it had some tradition, it was customary [00:23:34] for them to wear studded belts [00:23:37] and scourge themselves. Then I realized that this pain [00:23:41] is ultimately about seeking an altered state of consciousness, [00:23:45] probably these people, and through this pain, [00:23:48] or through these Christ-like sufferings, they can [00:23:52] connect with God in such, how should I say, [00:23:55] an altered state of consciousness, and this was difficult for me as an actor [00:23:59] to understand, why the path to God led through the path [00:24:02] of pain. This was difficult for me. [00:24:19] "Do we know anything about the circumstances of her death? [00:24:23] Margaret died very young, she was about [00:24:26] 28 years old then. Um, [00:24:30] actually, it is evident, or as the sources describe her life, [00:24:34] and exactly this penance, [00:24:37] then service, etc., this exhausted [00:24:40] her strength very early on. And we don't know exactly [00:24:43] what disease she died from, [00:24:46] she died after a short illness [00:24:50] among her fellow nuns. If she were sitting here [00:24:53] among us, and we asked her what message she would send [00:24:57] to people today, what would she say to us? I know [00:25:00] it's a very difficult question, but when one talks about saints, one tries [00:25:04] to bring them closer, what is that handhold, what is that thought, [00:25:08] that would make me want to talk to her? I think [00:25:11] it's a bit difficult to talk about saints like this, [00:25:15] partly because we see them schematically, and partly because we think [00:25:19] they are so far beyond our world that [00:25:23] we have nothing to do with it, or there is no common [00:25:26] ground. Looking at Margaret's life, I think what is so [00:25:29] incredibly exciting about her is that she lived in a convent, [00:25:33] about 100 people lived there, by the way, in her time in the [00:25:36] Margaret Island convent, it was a huge [00:25:39] community, and everyone lived the life there that [00:25:43] the rules prescribed. And then suddenly Margaret comes, [00:25:47] and she embarked on a path, a path of relationship with God, [00:25:50] that no one else had walked before, actually. And even today we don't know [00:25:54] where she learned this, or where she got it from, that she had a completely [00:25:58] different relationship with God than all the others. [00:26:02] Although they also got courage from her. So if she [00:26:05] were sitting here, she would probably say this, [00:26:08] or she would send this message of courage, [00:26:12] even today, that we should have the courage [00:26:15] to embark on this kind of path in our relationship with God. [00:26:19] It's very - if we look at her life, it's clear [00:26:23] that it wasn't so easy for her either, she didn't have specialized literature, [00:26:27] and she didn't have help, and she couldn't go here and there [00:26:30] to gather information. But she still dared to embark [00:26:34] on this path completely alone. [00:26:39] The fundamental word of her entire life is atonement. [00:26:43] When she was born in Klissa [00:26:45] in 1242, her parents, in a desperate [00:26:49] and hopeless situation, offered her, so to speak, [00:26:52] as a gift to God. One could say at 12, [00:26:55] 16, or 18 years old [00:26:59] that this is my parents' story, but now [00:27:02] I want to live my own life. But she doesn't [00:27:05] do that; instead, she consciously embraces [00:27:08] what others said about her, she makes what [00:27:12] was born in the hearts of others [00:27:15] her own heart's thought, and enters into the process, [00:27:18] into a beautiful current, of atonement. Which is perhaps [00:27:22] a difficult word for today's mind, because what does atonement mean? [00:27:26] It means that we did something wrong, and then we correct [00:27:29] it with something good. But she didn't do anything wrong. Why should [00:27:33] she atone? Well, as an innocent child, [00:27:37] she was born into a situation. [00:27:40] And here returns the idea that it's a very strange aspect [00:27:43] of our lives when we experience [00:27:47] that we have a kind of great solidarity, [00:27:50] or community network with our parents, with our broader [00:27:54] community, with our nation, with [00:27:57] our human circles, where it may be that my personal [00:28:01] cause-and-effect connections do not define my path. [00:28:04] I did something wrong, I need to make it right with something [00:28:08] good, but rather it's about [00:28:12] my community having burdens, [00:28:15] which I can transform with my conscious commitment, [00:28:18] with my conscious actions. I can perhaps promote [00:28:21] the good of my entire human community [00:28:24] by bringing my own life into this [00:28:27] game as a gift, as a value. [00:28:31] "What Margaret [00:28:39] conveys to me, or what Margaret [00:28:42] symbolizes, is that [00:28:45] one must think beyond the material, [00:28:49] and there is life beyond the material. [00:28:52] Not the material, so today's person is very much in the material, [00:28:56] very much in their body, and Margaret is the one [00:28:58] who, I think, is like a Hungarian [00:29:01] Joan of Arc, showing [00:29:05] that the world, life, human existence, [00:29:07] transcends the material. [00:29:13] It was recorded about Margaret that her fellow nuns [00:29:16] were astonished to see that when she prayed alone [00:29:20] at night in the convent [00:29:23] chapel, she almost floated above the ground, [00:29:26] because she raised her heart to the Lord, [00:29:29] and thus became a nation's [00:29:32] savior, and according to Hungarian tradition, [00:29:36] after her heavenly birthday, she became [00:29:39] a constant intercessor for our homeland, for our nation, [00:29:43] for the foundations of Christianity, our patroness, [00:29:46] who prays [00:29:48] for us. [00:29:51] After what we have seen and heard, I think we can safely say [00:29:55] that Saint Margaret is not a shadow of the past, not a spirit of the past, [00:29:59] but someone who