M1 — Familia Kft. 20261105 093000 UTC 466 transcript segments Google Cloud Speech-to-Text API (Chirp) + Gemini 2.5 Flash Non-Thinking Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:00:00] and let's show the whole society exactly [00:00:03] what is happening behind the scenes, how farming works, [00:00:07] how it is possible [00:00:10] to Csongor Farkas, the to put the product on the table from arable land, or from the stable or from the pens, let's try [00:00:13] to involve schools, let's try to involve [00:00:17] social organizations who [00:00:20] indeed have a big role in how the society of the future [00:00:23] develops, which is why agrotourism is a [00:00:27] highly supported direction. In Austria, and [00:00:30] I think we should adopt this direction as much as possible. I [00:00:34] myself am also the president of a nature park, I considered it extremely [00:00:38] important that there is one nature park in Nógrád. This should become a [00:00:41] priority tourist area, because we are not [00:00:45] interested in such a region with outstanding values, [00:00:48] let's say, going down the rugged and [00:00:52] uncertain path of industry, and as we see now, often leading to a dead end, [00:00:56] but we are interested in preserving [00:00:59] our natural endowments as much as possible for [00:01:03] future generations, which is why we need to [00:01:06] look at agriculture, the agri-food sector, forestry, [00:01:09] hunting and everything else that is an integral part of rural areas [00:01:13] in this context and in this regard, and I think [00:01:16] this can be a very forward-looking and [00:01:20] good direction, so I encourage the representative of the government, [00:01:23] the State Secretary, the Minister as well, I hope I can convince him [00:01:27] with this, that yes, let's try to follow the Austrian model here, [00:01:31] as this is a decidedly forward-looking example. Then [00:01:35] let's see, if we are already in the 21st [00:01:38] know if everyone noticed, but after century, then let's not just talk about dogmatic old 20th century, thousand-year-old [00:01:41] things during farming, but let's look at digitalization, for example. How can [00:01:45] to this, their attention was drawn to it, because digitalization be smuggled [00:01:49] into everyday life for a farmer in a way that it makes his [00:01:53] work easier, that it boosts his [00:01:56] farming, because the less time he has to [00:02:00] waste on bureaucratic labyrinths, the more time he [00:02:03] will have, hopefully for his farm, but also for his family, so this [00:02:07] farmer will be more balanced and, let's say, more motivated. [00:02:10] Well, for example, applications are created [00:02:14] has been the cornerstone of this that have practical benefits, for example, for plant protection products, for example, [00:02:18] for machine parts procurement, for example, [00:02:21] for cost calculations, [00:02:24] calculations that he might not be able to determine [00:02:28] and do so precisely on his own, or without help, but these [00:02:31] applications help [00:02:33] Now, among him with this, and we also have a farmer application, it has very [00:02:37] positive and advantageous sides, but it also has many flaws that need to be eliminated, [00:02:41] maybe it would be worth applying these positive examples [00:02:45] to us as well, since we are talking about such applications, [00:02:48] then what has been achieved [00:02:52] with that strategic partnership that, say, the [00:02:56] Austrian Chamber shows towards farmers, and [00:02:59] how it tries to work with them, well, as I said, [00:03:02] there are many very positive examples, but for me the [00:03:05] most positive one is, for example, that among the EU member states, [00:03:09] Austria is in the first place in the competition [00:03:12] it won in the field of organic farming, [00:03:15] argument for so we are talking about the country with the most organic farms, [00:03:18] even though we know that Austria's [00:03:21] geographical and topographical conditions differ a bit [00:03:25] from ours, we know that even those areas [00:03:28] are brought under agricultural cultivation, I'm not necessarily thinking of [00:03:32] arable crop cultivation, which are often [00:03:35] unimaginable, while here, even our best [00:03:38] areas will soon be taken out of cultivation, [00:03:41] not only due to infrastructure developments, [00:03:44] not only due to booming industrial developments, [00:03:48] but also because we simply don't treat our life-giving [00:03:51] lands well, for some reason, the agricultural [00:03:54] chamber, for example, hasn't set straight in the minds of farmers [00:03:58] how to treat each area. [00:04:00] "We see that water management is, for example, an extremely [00:04:04] persecuted concept in Hungary, because the previous [00:04:07] government had 16 years to implement historical [00:04:10] water management, let's say, in our country, [00:04:13] it seems that these 16 years were not [00:04:16] necessarily at the agricultural chamber, but enough for this, I think that a very quick [00:04:18] reaction is needed here, because this year has shown that it is not only [00:04:22] agriculture that is affected in a terribly unfavorable way by this water shortage, but [00:04:30] representative of Tisza, has renewal. It is not the change we also see it in the energy sector, in energy supply, I can cause very serious problems." Moreover, we see what social implications this drought [00:04:34] had, since here in Budapest and in the immediate [00:04:37] vicinity of the capital, a shortage of drinking water [00:04:40] also occurred, and water supply problems also developed, so [00:04:44] this is where it comes in that we are talking about a societal problem, [00:04:46] this is where the context comes in that yes, the national [00:04:50] agricultural chamber really has to deal with a lot of comprehensive problems, [00:04:54] and this is where the umbrella organization's expectation comes in, that yes, [00:04:57] it must be able to provide a very stable [00:05:01] background for farmers, because this [00:05:03] organization is designed to give [00:05:07] Hungarian farmers a very strong advocacy capability, [00:05:10] we can look at those European countries, [00:05:14] let's say, who started thinking earlier [00:05:17] or are ahead of us in the topic, [00:05:20] because if I already brought up Austria as an example, then let's [00:05:24] see what the perception of the farmer society is in our country. [00:05:26] Well, if we look at it, we see that it has a rather [00:05:30] devastating perception, I would add that, just like my hunting companions, many [00:05:33] of my fellow farmers also do this, because from the subsidy, perhaps [00:05:37] it's not the latest luxury Q7, or some new monstrous [00:05:40] SUV running under the name Phantom, perhaps it's not this that should be [00:05:44] bought, but rather the area-based or animal welfare [00:05:47] or other subsidies they receive should be reinvested [00:05:50] in their farms. Prejudices may also arise from this, but [00:05:54] one thing is certain, in Austria they are trying to guide farmers that [00:05:58] it's not necessarily the Q7 direction they should be moving in, but perhaps [00:06:01] they should develop their farms a bit, perhaps they should stand on more legs, and [00:06:05] thanks to this, and also thanks to the fact that, as I mentioned, [00:06:09] these farms are also involved in education. [00:06:13] cat: there is a very high social acceptance, a very high social [00:06:17] recognition of farmers, and of the [00:06:19] entire agricultural sector, and I think this is a good example, this is a [00:06:23] direction to follow, we cannot support this bill in its [00:06:27] current form, however, we are glad that [00:06:30] there are forward-looking parts to it, and we will make our proposed amendments, [00:07:42] about it, not only for the NAC, but it also contains a little bit of Jäger, the [00:07:46] first one would be to Mr. Pap, that [00:07:50] it was mentioned that the NAC spent 35 million forints on [00:07:53] daily allowances for the Brussels [00:07:57] demonstration, [00:07:59] let everyone interpret that from public funds and farmer's [00:08:03] money, the NAC sent people to a demonstration, [00:08:06] which is a public body, [00:08:09] so now a public body organizes people for [00:08:13] a demonstration, and then we can imagine [00:08:16] what happened there, and what happened in the past [00:08:20] years, and ultimately who those people [00:08:23] represented there, because it was also mentioned that an [00:08:27] organization, Magosz, transported people, and [00:08:30] it crushed 17 organizations [00:08:33] under it, inter-branch organizations, there are not 17, there are many [00:08:37] more, just to add, [00:08:41] the other thing is, well, yes, it came up with everyone, interestingly [00:08:44] enough, it was excluded from the [00:08:46] NAC's scope of duties, because [00:08:50] the advisory board's [00:08:53] investigation came out, [00:08:56] and I would quote two sentences from it, [00:08:59] which is very important, the work of the advisory board [00:09:02] of the Hungarian Academy of Sciences, neither the NAC nor the ministry were involved, so this was a [00:09:06] completely independent investigation, it clearly [00:09:10] states that the operation of the Jäger [00:09:13] cannot be held responsible for the drought [00:09:17] of recent years, this is one sentence, [00:09:19] and the other is that the operation of the Jäger [00:09:23] has no significant effect exceeding [00:09:26] 10%, neither on the extent of [00:09:29] hail damage, nor on the amount of [00:09:33] precipitation. I think after this, the operation of the Jäger [00:09:37] needs to be reconsidered, and that's why we removed it from the NAC's [00:09:39] scope of duties, so that we can think it through and [00:10:25] "Because of this, I will again run out of time, just in parentheses. Madam [00:10:28] Speaker, esteemed National Assembly, dear fellow representatives, the [00:10:32] true significance of the operation of the agricultural chamber and the amendment to the law [00:10:36] is not only measurable in regulation, but also in the [00:10:39] everyday lives of Hungarian farmers. As a Member of Parliament for the [00:10:43] third constituency of Bács-Kiskun County and a former [00:10:47] farmer, I myself see exactly what [00:10:50] difficulties our farms, [00:10:54] grape growers, and livestock farmers [00:10:57] face. The livelihood of many families can [00:11:01] depend on a single bad harvest, an unexpected frost damage, or [00:11:04] prolonged subsidy procedures. [00:11:07] It is important that the agricultural chamber [00:11:10] provides real help to farmers, and that their everyday [00:11:14] problems and interests are prioritized in decision-making. [00:11:18] The goal is for Hungarian farmers [00:11:22] to be able to continue their work under more predictable [00:11:25] conditions with responsible support. I would also [00:11:28] like to present a concrete example. A farmer from Kaskantyú [00:11:32] recently turned to me for help after his farm suffered [00:11:35] approximately 80% frost damage. [00:11:38] Meanwhile, he encountered difficulties regarding the [00:11:41] evaluation of his agricultural application, and the prolonged [00:11:44] legal remedy procedure further increased his [00:11:48] uncertainty. It is important to emphasize [00:11:51] that this matter does not fall within the decision-making [00:11:55] competence of the agricultural chamber, yet the case [00:11:58] clearly shows why there is a need for a professional [00:12:01] organization to which farmers can turn with [00:12:04] confidence, which supports them with [00:12:07] information, guidance, and meaningful professional help in [00:12:10] difficult situations. Dear [00:12:13] fellow representatives, the aim of the bill [00:12:17] is to make the operation of the agricultural chamber more predictable, [00:12:20] more efficient, and more professionally sound. [00:12:25] This requires the clarification of the data in the chamber's [00:12:28] membership register, the clear [00:12:32] definition of tasks and responsibilities, but I consider it [00:12:34] particularly important to also reduce [00:12:37] chamber membership fees. Chamber membership [00:12:41] should therefore not simply mean another mandatory [00:12:44] payment. Farmers must feel [00:12:47] that in exchange for their membership fee, they receive real [00:12:50] services, professional support, and effective [00:12:53] representation of interests. Equally important is the chamber's [00:12:57] operation free from political influence. [00:12:59] A grape grower from Kiskőrös or a farmer from Soltvadkert [00:13:03] is not interested in what political [00:13:06] conviction a chamber leader has, but rather whether [00:13:09] they know the problems of agriculture, understand the [00:13:12] situation of producers, and are able to effectively represent [00:13:16] their interests. Therefore, professional [00:13:19] aspects must take precedence in chamber [00:13:23] decisions. [00:13:25] Dear National Assembly, in my constituency, grape and [00:13:29] wine production play a particularly important role. The [00:13:32] producers of the Kunság wine region face serious [00:13:36] challenges. Difficulties in the wine market, [00:13:40] rising production costs, extreme [00:13:43] weather, and an unpredictable economic [00:13:46] environment all put them to the test. [00:13:49] These problems cannot be solved by a single amendment to the law [00:13:53] overnight. However, a well-functioning [00:13:57] agricultural chamber can help ensure that producers are not [00:14:01] left alone. That is why I consider it important [00:14:04] to strengthen advisory, coordination, and electronic [00:14:07] administration tasks. [00:14:11] Farmers need quickly accessible, accurate [00:14:13] information and practical help. [00:14:16] We also need to ensure that digital [00:14:20] administration does not pose another obstacle for older [00:14:23] farmers. And young people should see a real future in Hungarian [00:14:27] agriculture. Dear [00:14:30] fellow representatives, the future of the Hungarian countryside [00:14:34] also depends on whether we can maintain the trust of farmers, and [00:14:37] whether we are able to create conditions under which the [00:14:41] next generation will also undertake to continue family [00:14:45] farms. For me, this is the real [00:14:48] stake of the agricultural chamber's [00:14:51] in positions or organizational structure itself [00:14:55] that is important, but rather that the chamber gets closer to those [00:14:58] for whom it was created. Therefore, I support the [00:15:02] objectives of the bill. [00:15:05] I would like farmers to be able to say in a few years, based on their own [00:15:08] experiences, that administration has become easier, they receive [00:15:11] more professional help, and they can truly count on the [00:15:14] agricultural chamber, because the value of a professional [00:15:17] interest representation is ultimately not determined by the number of its [00:15:20] leaders, nor by its organizational structure. [00:15:24] But by how much it does for farmers, and whether it earns their [00:15:28] trust. [00:16:05] a question: where is János Pócs? I was glad he finally came in, [00:16:07] and we could have a professional, constructive [00:16:11] debate, he doesn't attend committee meetings, so work [00:16:15] could actually happen, he doesn't troll it at least, but now at least [00:16:18] there would be an opportunity to talk about agriculture, he's the watermelon [00:16:22] king of Jászság, we see him coming and going on small tractors, [00:16:26] now we could be debating the agricultural situation, but he's not [00:16:29] here, maybe we should translate for him not to [00:16:33] grumble and [00:16:36] such video glasses, or [00:16:38] come in with binoculars, but then let's debate constructively [00:16:42] at such times, you are silencing the [00:16:45] politicization part here, I see you don't really want to go into [00:16:48] this, what do I mean here? [00:16:50] Here sits Zsolt Papp, Member of Parliament [00:16:54] for Fidesz, who jumped directly from the position [00:16:57] of president of the agricultural chamber to this seat where [00:17:01] he is currently sitting, so I think no more is needed, but there is [00:17:05] still more, because - during the campaign [00:17:09] period, I myself, as a farmer, received a letter from the agricultural [00:17:12] chamber, with Viktor Orbán's signature, I received this on the [00:17:16] client gate, I also received it physically, in which, of course, the [00:17:19] farmers were in danger, they were invited [00:17:23] Tisza is attacking, Ukraine is attacking, Brussels is attacking, etc., and only you could protect [00:17:27] the farmers, well, fortunately the farmers were also sensible, just like [00:17:30] most of the country, nearly 3 and a half [00:17:33] million people, so there will be complete renewal, [00:17:37] there will be savings, there will be efficiency here too, we need to get used [00:17:40] to these terms, also in the agricultural chamber, and there is absolutely [00:17:43] positive reception from farmers, so those farmers I spoke to, real farmers who are [00:17:47] currently in the fields, completely welcomed it, so this is [00:17:51] a very good feedback for us, so finally there will be a representation [00:17:54] that truly represents farmers, and not politics among [00:18:16] Mr. State Secretary, I would like to respond to your contribution, and [00:18:20] I consider it very important that you presented the [00:18:24] position of that advisory body, which turned out to be [00:18:27] academics and experts appointed by the academy, [00:18:31] which stated that the hail damage forecasting [00:18:35] system cannot be held responsible for [00:18:37] the drought, I know that this will not reassure conspiracy theorists, [00:18:41] and they will continue to think so, but it is very [00:18:44] important that this has been professionally stated, [00:18:47] however, in my opinion, it is not a sufficient [00:18:52] stopping the system [00:18:55] that it cannot be shown [00:18:58] that hail damage will be reduced by more than [00:19:02] 10%. If it can only [00:19:05] reduce it by 10%, I understand, Mr. State Secretary, Mr. Representative, that this [00:19:09] is statistics, but if we can only reduce the number of [00:19:12] affected people by 10% [00:19:15] with this, or the extent of [00:19:17] the damage, then it must continue to [00:19:21] operate. For the farmer, the farmer [00:19:24] whose entire year's harvest is taken away by hail, [00:19:28] for him this is not statistics, for him the whole, so such [00:19:31] a damage event like hail [00:19:33] can put a whole year's work to waste. [00:19:37] It can throw it in the bin, so if we can only [00:19:40] help 10% of the people, that is precisely an [00:19:44] argument for this system to remain, so I ask you, [00:19:47] reiterating what I said in my contribution, that not [00:19:53] the state, the government, should [00:20:17] say a few words about politicization, because we haven't really heard about [00:20:21] it from the other side, let's imagine a farmer from the villages [00:20:25] around Pápa, he also has to be a member of [00:20:28] the agricultural chamber, he pays his membership fee, in return the chamber [00:20:32] supposedly represented his interests as well. Therefore, [00:20:35] the farmer rightly believes and believed that the chamber is [00:20:39] his, it works in his interest. [00:20:43] However, according to the investigation, this money went to something else entirely. The [00:20:46] chamber spent 182 million forints on Fidesz candidates' [00:20:50] campaigns, it bused farmers, or activists disguised as farmers, [00:20:53] to Viktor Orbán's speeches so that there would be someone to [00:20:57] applaud. This cost 191 million forints. [00:21:01] It transported people to foreign [00:21:04] demonstrations with daily allowances. And the village farmers, [00:21:08] who should have been helping with paperwork, collected [00:21:11] email addresses, which, according to the chamber's audit, [00:21:14] ended up with Fidesz. For years, [00:21:17] farmers had to endure that the institution called the [00:21:20] chamber degraded into a campaign machine [00:21:23] with their money, and with [00:21:26] the money of every taxpayer. [00:21:30] Esteemed House, let's clarify what this [00:21:33] law does. First, the chamber can no longer [00:21:36] be in one person's hands. The president will change every six months, [00:21:40] and the daily work will be carried out by a professional [00:21:44] leader. Secondly, the leaders will not [00:21:46] be leaders for salary, whoever takes on the... "will [00:21:50] work for the farmers. Thirdly, [00:21:53] the farmer will pay less [00:21:55] membership fee. And let me state clearly, the chamber cannot [00:21:59] belong to any single party. We are taking it out of Fidesz's hands [00:22:03] so that it can return to where [00:22:28] the change of regime, almost 40 years later, Mr. Papp, in the [00:22:31] esteemed House, threw a Kádár, so he [00:22:34] says that there were these perfectly democratic chamber [00:22:38] elections, but somehow only one organization ran in them, well, then [00:22:42] it was still possible to vote [00:22:48] spring there will be not only parliamentary elections, but also agricultural chamber elections, [00:22:52] which will take place on May 20, 2022. [00:22:55] Magosz, like in previous victorious votes, [00:22:58] will now run in the chamber elections [00:23:02] as a nominating organization, in cooperation with former [00:23:06] allies, representing all actors of Hungarian [00:23:09] agriculture. The cooperation agreement between Magosz [00:23:13] and the 17 allied organizations [00:23:16] will be signed today. We [00:23:20] are enclosing the cooperation agreement, and we continue to [00:23:23] count on your support, best regards x, y. These [00:23:26] organizations received quotas in the chamber. This was the [00:23:30] subject of the deal. That's why everyone decided to sign [00:23:33] for the sake of a sure quota, because otherwise they would have [00:23:37] been suppressed anyway. They were promised positions in advance, [00:23:40] and sure voting rights in the chamber, and [00:23:44] actually, what is also a very [00:23:47] important finding of this place. [00:23:54] Strategic agreement, Viktor Orbán [00:23:57] signed it personally, in which he states [00:24:00] that such a strategic cooperation [00:24:04] is entered into by the ruling party with farmer [00:24:06] interest representation, well, ladies and gentlemen, this is how [00:24:10] the agricultural chamber became Fidesz's lackey through Magosz, [00:24:14] so I still have seven seconds, Mr. Latorcai [00:24:17] has left, he says that in 2006 we abolished [00:24:21] the chamber membership fee regarding the drought, [00:24:25] why don't we do this in 2027, I humbly [00:24:47] advocacy work is property. It's political work, [00:24:51] and it can even be seen as the essence of [00:24:53] politics, representing voters and [00:24:57] even various professional [00:25:00] groups. So I think it shouldn't be a sin if [00:25:03] any political organization that forms for advocacy [00:25:07] purposes cooperates with [00:25:10] another advocacy organization, which, for example, [00:25:13] represents the interests of farmers. It would be [00:25:17] good if others also cooperated. [00:25:20] As for the accusations against the farmers, one can say who [00:25:23] traveled how, or didn't travel, but then they should back [00:25:27] that up, because otherwise it's nothing more than empty political [00:25:30] statements. Some, I'm not a lawyer, might [00:25:33] even call this defamation. And as for [00:25:37] the Brussels part of things, that [00:25:40] farmers are participating in farmer demonstrations in Brussels, well, [00:25:44] it's called advocacy, so they stand up in Brussels [00:25:48] because of certain decisions, or... against certain decisions, against certain [00:25:52] misguided Brussels policies. [00:25:55] The Hungarian news also covered those [00:25:59] farmer demonstrations that took place in Brussels. These were not [00:26:02] random occurrences, not only in Hungary, but in many [00:26:05] European countries, EU countries, people thought that [00:26:09] Brussels was not adequately representing the [00:26:12] interests of Hungarian and other European [00:26:15] farmers. That's why it shouldn't be an evil [00:26:18] thing to stand up for this, or to express an opinion against it. [00:26:22] I see that you think of politics as just some [00:26:26] formal thing, but it is about standing up for something if you don't like it. [00:26:29] You can, and even must, stand up for it, whether you are a [00:26:33] farmer or a [00:26:55] mentioned the hailstorm system, well, you know, here we could say that the conspiracy theorist [00:26:59] hit the mark and I took it personally, but I didn't take it personally. I would rather [00:27:03] focus once again on the fact [00:27:06] that you say that a farmer whose crop is destroyed by hail [00:27:09] is completely at the mercy of it, and their work in that given year is worth nothing. Yes, [00:27:13] there are insurers for this, there are agricultural insurances for this. So we don't need to operate a [00:27:16] system that has caused antipathy among a large [00:27:20] part of the farming community, and whose [00:27:23] operation is controversial, but yes, there are [00:27:26] agricultural insurances for this, there are agricultural insurers. The other thing [00:27:30] I didn't have time to say in my normal speech, [00:27:33] in my main speech, is what other terribly important task [00:27:36] should the NAK have? I think that effective [00:27:40] advocacy in legislation is perhaps the definition that [00:27:44] is most important in this regard, [00:27:48] because it could also put forward [00:27:50] amendment proposals that, for example, on the basis of legal harmonization, [00:27:54] would make the lives of farmers easier. There are [00:27:57] many tangled issues, the untangling of which [00:28:00] will only work if... these [00:28:03] legal harmonization proposals are born out of collective [00:28:06] wisdom and practical experience, [00:28:08] and finally, perhaps the most important thing I [00:28:11] forgot to mention is that we thank those whose work [00:28:16] system, who have contributed with their work [00:28:20] to enable the farming community and our fellow farmers [00:28:23] to perform outstanding work. We thank them [00:28:27] for their work, and we hope [00:28:52] would like to ask a simple question: [00:28:55] is it normal that the Hungarian taxpayers' money [00:28:59] is spent on hundreds of millions of forints each year [00:29:02] in Transylvania for the maintenance of agricultural organizations and village farmer [00:29:06] networks, while in the Hungarian countryside, [00:29:09] especially in border regions, we are still struggling with [00:29:13] serious development deficiencies? [00:29:16] The history of the Transylvanian Hungarian farmers' [00:29:18] organizations did not begin today. [00:29:22] The Transylvanian Agricultural Association, founded in 1844, [00:29:26] served Hungarian farmers for many decades. [00:29:29] After Trianon, it remained an important institution [00:29:32] for the survival of Hungarians, and then [00:29:35] after 1990, the Association of Hungarian [00:29:38] Farmers in Romania continued this legacy. [00:29:42] The turning point came in 2017-18, [00:29:45] when the Hungarian government established [00:29:49] the Carpathian Basin Village Farmer Program, [00:29:52] for which it allocated more than 400 million [00:29:56] forints in its first year, and since then, an additional [00:29:59] hundreds of millions flow in annually. [00:30:03] According to the document, the annual cost of the program approaches [00:30:07] 300 million forints, without various [00:30:10] additional program supports. Today, [00:30:13] three separate organizations operate the network: the [00:30:17] Pro Agricultura Association, the Association of Szekler [00:30:21] Farmers, and the Satmar Rural Development [00:30:24] Association. Together, they employ more than 60 village farmers [00:30:28] from the Hungarian budget. [00:30:31] The problem is not supporting Hungarian farmers beyond [00:30:35] the border. The problem is when professional [00:30:39] considerations are replaced by political considerations. [00:30:42] According to the document that reached me, the [00:30:46] Association of Hungarian Farmers in Romania, which previously played a central [00:30:49] role, was gradually sidelined, and [00:30:53] the operation of the network was given to organizations [00:30:57] whose leaders in several cases [00:31:00] also held RMDSZ positions.