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[00:01:06] Hello, good afternoon viewers. The controversy surrounding Vice President Gibran Rakabuming Raka's diploma
[00:01:10] has not yet ended. The spotlight has turned to the regulations for presidential
[00:01:14] and vice presidential candidacies, which are said to contain alleged
[00:01:17] smuggled clauses related to educational requirements. This contested
[00:01:21] article raises questions about how such provisions
[00:01:24] could emerge, whether the formation process was in accordance
[00:01:27] with procedures, and whether it is related to... Gibran's
[00:01:31] educational requirements. This information will be our main discussion in Primetime News at this time,
[00:01:35] with me, Zilvia Iskandar, and later with our colleague, Evando.
[00:01:38] We begin today's Primetime News with a Primetime Flash. The first Primetime Flash,
[00:01:42] viewers, we will immediately see related to the militant volunteer
[00:01:46] group Gibran 08 Nusantara, who visited Joko
[00:01:49] which one is actually Widodo's private residence to report on the results
[00:01:52] of the Constitutional Court's decision regarding Vice President Gibran Rakabuming
[00:01:56] Raka's diploma. The General Chairman of the militant volunteer group Gibran 08
[00:01:59] Nusantara, Andi Aswan, reiterated that the possibility of impeachment
[00:02:03] against Vice President Gibran is very small and stated that the validity
[00:02:06] of Gibran's diploma is very clear and transparent, so it does not need
[00:02:10] to be doubted by the public.
[00:02:13] Next, the second Prime Flash is related to the resistance of
[00:02:17] Yemen's Ansarullah against the Saudi Arabian aggressors, which has not ended
[00:02:20] after Saudi bombed Sana'a Airport and cut off
[00:02:24] humanitarian aid routes in Yemen. Now, Ansarullah has targeted King Khalid
[00:02:27] International Airport in Riyadh.
[00:02:32] Next, we will see a Prime Flash regarding the aftermath of a fire
[00:02:35] that burned down around 500 residents' homes due to forest and land fires
[00:02:39] in Bangka Selatan district. Hundreds of residents on Monday afternoon
[00:02:42] returned to their respective homes
[00:02:45] to sift through the remains of salvageable
[00:02:47] items. Previously, on Saturday, forest and land fires
[00:02:51] that hit Serdang Hamlet in Bangka Selatan district
[00:02:55] spread to residential areas. Viewers,
[00:02:59] we will discuss this later, but before that, let's start Primetime News with
[00:03:14] affecting the Tanjung Puting National Park area in Kotawaringin Barat,
[00:03:17] Central Kalimantan, are
[00:03:19] expanding.
[00:03:23] Aerial footage that
[00:03:25] we will show indicates that forest fires from two areas
[00:03:28] in Tanjung Puting National Park are estimated to have affected
[00:03:32] an area of 54,000 hectares and continue
[00:03:35] to spread.
[00:03:42] Limited personnel and equipment are hindering firefighting efforts.
[00:03:45] The Kotawaringin Barat City Government has designated three
[00:03:49] areas as priority for handling
[00:03:52] there, that due to being the largest contributors of smoke. These three
[00:03:54] areas are Pangkalan Bun Road, Kotawaringin Lama City, Tanjung
[00:03:58] Putri Village, and the Tanjung
[00:04:01] the House of Puting National Park area. The regional government is requesting
[00:04:04] assistance from the central government to immediately extinguish the expanding
[00:04:07] forest and land fires.
[00:04:13] I swear as
[00:04:15] indeed, what a witness.
[00:04:19] There was no intention, no view, nothing
[00:04:22] at all, no motive to pass someone or facilitate
[00:04:26] someone in this situation. The article that was
[00:04:30] smuggled, the article related to the candidacy process,
[00:04:33] was also not part of the public hearing process, and then it was also not
[00:04:37] part of the RDP process, but during the harmonization process,
[00:04:41] it suddenly
[00:04:42] appeared.
[00:04:46] Yes, an RDP with all election
[00:04:49] organizers should be held immediately.
[00:04:52] We will show the public which one is actually
[00:04:55] considered not smuggled and which one is smuggled. That's the most
[00:05:00] important thing now. I will continue
[00:05:03] to focus on working for
[00:05:06] the community and making a success of
[00:05:09] the vision, mission, and programs of Mr. President.
[00:05:20] Viewers, the General Chairman of the Militant Gibran 08 Nusantara Volunteers,
[00:05:23] Andi Aswan, visited the private residence of the 7th President of Indonesia, Joko
[00:05:27] Widodo, on Monday morning. He came with his legal team
[00:05:31] to report on the results of the Constitutional Court's decision regarding Vice President
[00:05:34] Gibran Rakabuming Raka's
[00:05:35] diploma.
[00:06:14] So friends, and also all Indonesian people,
[00:06:17] speak up
[00:06:19] to face all of this, that
[00:06:21] the truth must be fought for, because if
[00:06:24] not, those people who spread news,
[00:06:27] news that is also
[00:06:30] chaotic
[00:06:32] politics, whose real aim is to
[00:06:35] overthrow us, the direction is from
[00:06:38] Mas
[00:06:42] Prabowo. Those are the intentions, whoever the person is,
[00:06:45] whatever the organization, we must join
[00:06:48] hands, because we must not allow all government programs
[00:06:52] to get stuck, and whatever mandate has been given
[00:06:56] to the government must be a shared responsibility, not just
[00:06:59] the government's, but all Indonesian people's to
[00:07:01] prosper.
[00:07:04] Several civil society elements met with the Golkar Party faction
[00:07:07] to urge the use of the inquiry right against Vice President Gibran Rakabuming
[00:07:11] Raka, regarding the Constitutional Court's decision. The spokesperson
[00:07:15] for the Civil Society Alliance, Rai Rangkuti, stated that the alliance is pushing
[00:07:19] the DPR to use its inquiry right to investigate alleged legal violations
[00:07:22] or the non-fulfillment of position requirements. According to Rai
[00:07:26] Rangkuti, the inquiry right is necessary as an initial step to
[00:07:30] clarify the issue of Gibran's diploma in an official DPR
[00:07:33] forum. This aims to clarify the differences
[00:07:37] in statements between the Constitutional Court's decision and Gibran's supporters' claims,
[00:07:41] as well as to evaluate the performance of the KPU and the government
[00:07:44] based on Article 7a and Article 7b, and the court cannot be presented
[00:07:48] recently.
[00:07:51] We have discussed it.
[00:07:54] Okay, if we have discussed it, let's open it in the minutes
[00:07:57] so we can see the recording of how
[00:08:01] that particular article was discussed.
[00:08:04] K. Now, according to us, the inquiry right is not just
[00:08:07] about the end of the process, but also about correcting
[00:08:11] the system. We correct the election organizers,
[00:08:15] but more than that, it is about providing a space
[00:08:18] for Mr. Jokowi's family to
[00:08:21] restore their good name.
[00:08:25] It's useless for them
[00:08:28] to bring as many supporters as possible
[00:08:32] to refute
[00:08:35] the Constitutional Court's decision. The hot potato of Vice President Gibran Rakabuming
[00:08:38] Raka's diploma controversy has rolled into parliament. The legal
[00:08:42] counsel for the Vice President's diploma plaintiff, Ahmad Qozinuddin, asked
[00:08:45] the DPR RI to review the complaint through
[00:08:48] the applicable state administration
[00:08:51] mechanism. Ahmad Qozinuddin claimed that the DPR RI could
[00:08:54] consider the right to express an opinion without having
[00:08:57] to be preceded by an inquiry right, but that step is still a proposal
[00:09:01] from the complainant. Kozinuddin explained that the complaint
[00:09:04] submitted covers two aspects, namely alleged legal issues related
[00:09:08] to educational equivalency documents and questions
[00:09:11] regarding the fulfillment of requirements.
[00:09:42] needs to be revealed by the DPR, but in our opinion,
[00:09:45] the DPR no longer needs to conduct an inquiry right, because what, the investigation has already
[00:09:49] been conducted by the Constitutional Court and the violation has been found by the Constitutional Court
[00:09:53] that the Vice President no longer meets the requirements. So, in our humble opinion,
[00:09:56] through the letter we sent, the DPR must immediately upgrade to
[00:10:00] what is called an HMP, H stating an opinion where
[00:10:04] the DPR RI's opinion states that the President has violated,
[00:10:07] the Vice President has violated the constitution because he no longer meets the requirements, then
[00:10:11] it is authorized by the Constitution and then in Article
[00:10:14] 8, it is followed up with an MPR RI session with two
[00:10:17] agendas simultaneously. Viewers, the Head of the Shah
[00:10:21] Ganda Nainggolan Communication Agency confirmed that Member of the Presidential Advisory Council,
[00:10:25] Rocky Gerung, agreed not to make statements asking Gibran
[00:10:28] Rakabuming Raka to resign from the position of Vice President.
[00:10:32] This assurance was conveyed by Syah Ganda after communicating directly
[00:10:35] by phone with Rocky Gerung. Syah Ganda
[00:10:38] explained that Rocky previously did not fully understand that
[00:10:42] the authority and advisory function of the Wantimpres institution also
[00:10:45] cover the position of Vice
[00:10:47] President.
[00:10:52] According to Syah Ganda, the understanding of the scope
[00:10:56] of the position is one of the things that Rocky needs to consider
[00:11:00] when making statements
[00:11:00] in public.
[00:11:05] Previously, Rocky Gerung suggested that Gibran Rakabuming Raka resign
[00:11:09] from the position of Vice President after the Constitutional Court's decision
[00:11:12] emerged. Rocky believes that Gibran's resignation could be
[00:11:16] an elegant step. He also argued that such a step
[00:11:20] has the potential to prevent mass anger.
[00:11:23] This view was conveyed by Rocky in a podcast aired on
[00:11:27] Akbar Faisal's YouTube channel.
[00:11:38] Viewers, the House of Representatives seems to be taking a wait
[00:11:41] and see approach to the political developments after the Constitutional Court's decision
[00:11:45] regarding Gibran's diploma lawsuit. The next political
[00:11:48] process depends heavily on the coalition, especially the Gerindra
[00:11:52] Party.
[00:12:05] The Constitutional Court handed over the follow-up to the decision regarding
[00:12:09] the educational requirement for the equivalent of a high school diploma for Vice President
[00:12:12] Gibran Rakabuming Raka to other authorized
[00:12:16] institutions. In its decision, the Constitutional Court could not disqualify
[00:12:19] Gibran Rakabuming Raka as Vice President, even though it did not find
[00:12:22] evidence of a high school diploma or equivalent.
[00:12:25] Based on the 1945 Constitution, this authority
[00:12:29] lies with the House of Representatives or DPR. PKS spokesperson
[00:12:33] Mustofa Faruk believes that the new facts from the Constitutional Court's
[00:12:36] decision regarding Gibran's diploma should be followed up by
[00:12:39] the DPR. This is actually not a matter of political
[00:12:43] residuals with Pak Jokowi and so on. This is a matter of a legal
[00:12:46] decision that has been established by the court,
[00:12:50] in this context, the Constitutional Court, and the Constitutional Court itself
[00:12:54] mandates to continue this to
[00:12:57] the authorized institution to continue to check
[00:13:01] again the related matter. So I think this is not
[00:13:05] related to political residuals and so on, but indeed we have
[00:13:09] a new fact that we also, oh, this is a
[00:13:12] matter that we all should be aware
[00:13:15] of. This has become a problem that apparently yesterday in
[00:13:19] 2024 there was a check that was not
[00:13:22] really done well and correctly, so to speak,
[00:13:25] so the Constitutional Court also mandates the related
[00:13:29] institutions to
[00:13:31] follow up. The General Chairman of the Nusantara Rampai
[00:13:35] Volunteers, Mardian Sasemar, claimed that the parties supporting Prabowo
[00:13:39] Gibran are still solid. Mardian reminded
[00:13:42] that the parties that lost in the 2024 presidential election
[00:13:46] should not use the momentum of the Constitutional Court's decision, which is considered
[00:13:49] to have no legal or
[00:13:51] constitutional order
[00:13:54] to follow up. Again, do not let
[00:13:57] those who are hurting, those who are very
[00:14:01] disappointed, those who truly feel defeated,
[00:14:05] try to justify any means, which in my opinion,
[00:14:08] is far from the legal and constitutional command of the Constitutional Court's
[00:14:12] decision. It's just about trying to
[00:14:16] seize, what do you call it, power
[00:14:20] that they couldn't win in a contest that has legitimately
[00:14:23] passed. Constitutionally, it has passed. If you want to win,
[00:14:27] fight again in 2029. Don't hijack the power of people who
[00:14:30] have fought together before. If residuals are to be
[00:14:33] denied, PKS can, but if it
[00:14:36] is so visible, it is very visible. Meanwhile, political
[00:14:40] analyst Nurul Fattah believes that parties in the DPR are waiting
[00:14:43] for political steps from the president as the coalition leader.
[00:14:47] The follow-up process in the DPR depends on the Gerindra
[00:14:50] party's steps. The solidity of coalition friends,
[00:14:53] the Prabowo coalition parties, is very solid. That doesn't mean they
[00:14:57] are, what do you call it, supporting Mas Gibran or defending
[00:15:00] Mas Gibran, no. I think they are waiting for the president's decision.
[00:15:04] The button is with the president, right? The main carriage
[00:15:08] is with Gerindra. If Gerindra presses the button
[00:15:11] to, what do you call it, roll out
[00:15:14] the inquiry right process and impeachment,
[00:15:17] for example, everyone will follow that direction,
[00:15:20] follow the current, I think, and this shows that
[00:15:24] these political parties are abandoning Mas Gibran,
[00:15:28] including abandoning Pak Jokowi. I think that's how I read
[00:15:32] it. Today, as of today, what you see is only
[00:15:35] the PSI party. Reporting Team, Metro
[00:15:39] TV.
[00:15:43] Information on thick yellowish haze due to
[00:15:47] forest and land fires is getting thicker, covering
[00:15:51] Kotawaringin Timur Regency, Central Kalimantan. Meanwhile, in Jambi,
[00:15:54] forest fires continue to spread.
[00:16:06] The fire is getting bigger, sir.
[00:16:37] Four helicopter water
[00:16:39] bombing
[00:16:44] units are still currently active
[00:16:48] in the national park area, in the border area
[00:16:51] between Sembilang National Park and Berbak National Park,
[00:16:54] then in Rantau Raso, then
[00:16:58] there are still some that have descended here in the Tahura
[00:17:00] area, the black wood war,
[00:17:04] that's also still there, and the one in Sungai Gelam was also there yesterday.
[00:17:11] Haze also covers several areas in
[00:17:15] Kotawaringin Timur Regency. The increasingly thick
[00:17:18] yellowish smoke from forest fires adds to the public's
[00:17:21] concern. Besides disrupting daily activities, this condition
[00:17:24] also poses a risk of causing health problems. The public
[00:17:28] in Kotawaringin Timur is advised to remain vigilant and prioritize
[00:17:31] health, reduce outdoor activities, and wear
[00:17:35] appropriate masks when they have to go out
[00:17:38] of the house. The
[00:17:45] smoke condition this Monday
[00:17:48] morning is quite thick
[00:17:51] every morning
[00:17:54] and quite concerning for
[00:17:57] breathing.
[00:18:23] Viewers, the General Election Commission denied allegations
[00:18:26] of a smuggled article in KPU Regulation Number 19 of
[00:18:29] 2023 concerning the requirements for presidential and vice-presidential
[00:18:32] candidates. Information and discussion will be presented after
[00:18:36] the break.
[00:18:47] Presented by!
[00:21:58] a witness.
[00:22:03] There was no intention, no view, nothing
[00:22:06] at all, no motive to pass someone or facilitate
[00:22:10] someone in this situation. The article that was
[00:22:13] smuggled, the article related to the candidacy process,
[00:22:17] was also not part of the public hearing process. And then it was also not
[00:22:21] part of the RDP process, but during the harmonization process,
[00:22:25] it suddenly
[00:22:26] appeared.
[00:22:30] Yes, let's immediately hold an RDP with all
[00:22:34] election organizers. We will show the public
[00:22:39] considered not smuggled and which one is smuggled. That's the most
[00:22:43] important thing now.
[00:22:46] I will continue to focus on working
[00:22:50] for the community and making a success of
[00:22:53] the vision, mission, and programs of Mr.
[00:22:56] President.
[00:23:04] You are back with us on Primetime News. Viewers, former KPU Chairman Hasyim
[00:23:08] Asy'ari denied smuggling Article 18 paragraph 3
[00:23:11] of KPU Regulation Number 19 of 2023. However, on the other
[00:23:15] hand, Commission 2 of the DPR RI claimed that the article
[00:23:18] was never discussed.
[00:23:31] The General Election Commission of the Republic of Indonesia denied allegations of a smuggled
[00:23:35] article in KPU Regulation Number 19 of
[00:23:38] 2023 concerning the requirements for presidential and vice-presidential
[00:23:41] candidates. The statement about the smuggled
[00:23:45] article emerged after Article 18 paragraph 3 of KPU Regulation Number 19 of
[00:23:48] 2023 was
[00:23:59] Article 18 paragraph 3 of KPU Regulation Number 19 of 2023.
[00:24:02] According to him, Ahmad Doli Kurnia, who at that time was the chairman of Commission 2 of the DPR
[00:24:06] RI, and Arsul Sani, who at that time was still a member of parliament, were involved in
[00:24:10] the RDP that discussed KPU Regulation 19 of 2023. Furthermore,
[00:24:14] he said that the KPU regulation was signed by many parties, including
[00:24:17] Ahmad Doli Kurniah, who at that time was
[00:24:21] the Chairman of Commission 2 of the DPR-RI.
[00:24:23] This statement was responded to by member of Commission 2 of the DPR RI, Ahmad Doli
[00:24:27] Kurnia. According to him, they did
[00:24:30] discuss KPU Regulation Number 19 of 2023 twice
[00:24:33] in the DPR. The first discussion took place in September
[00:24:36] 2023, before the Constitutional Court's decision Number 90
[00:24:40] regarding the age limit. The next discussion
[00:24:42] took place after the Constitutional Court's decision. However, he
[00:24:46] emphasized that after the two discussions, Article 18
[00:24:49] paragraph 3 was indeed not there.
[00:24:53] Currently, Doli admits that he is tracing Article 18 paragraph 3
[00:24:56] of KPU Regulation Number 19 of 2023. We want to state
[00:25:00] that, what do you call it,
[00:25:05] is alleged by the
[00:25:08] situation at the Constitutional Court is true. We have
[00:25:12] never found that article
[00:25:15] when the documents were submitted to
[00:25:19] us. Right? Indeed, every
[00:25:22] RDP has all members of Commission 2 present and there is a conclusion.
[00:25:26] Right? So later, the details,
[00:25:29] I will convey them at the appropriate
[00:25:32] time and forum where I can show
[00:25:35] when it was entered and,
[00:25:38] what do you call it, what the chronology was.
[00:25:41] Article 18 paragraph 3 of the General Election Commission
[00:25:45] Regulation stipulates that presidential or vice-presidential candidates who attended
[00:25:48] high school abroad do not need to show proof of graduation.
[00:26:02] The Constitutional Court stated that it did not find a diploma
[00:26:06] or other documents equivalent to a high school diploma
[00:26:09] or equivalent belonging to Vice President Gibran Rakabuming Raka. Vice
[00:26:13] Chairman of Commission 10, Lalu Hadrian Irfani, stated
[00:26:15] that Indonesia does not yet have regulations regarding the equivalency
[00:26:18] of foreign diplomas.
[00:26:20] Lalu initially highlighted the Ministry of Education and Culture regarding
[00:26:24] the equivalency of academic results of education abroad.
[00:26:27] He mentioned that the Ministry
[00:27:02] alone was used by the Ministry of Education at that time
[00:27:06] to translate academic grades
[00:27:10] for any foreign
[00:27:13] graduates to be recognized in our country.
[00:27:17] Now, because there are no clear
[00:27:20] rules or regulations, we in Commission 10
[00:27:23] are pushing for clear regulations so that
[00:27:27] there will be no more lawsuits to other institutions. We do not
[00:27:31] have clear rules for that. Then, how is the conversion done,
[00:27:34] then which ones can be converted, which ones cannot be converted,
[00:27:38] that also doesn't exist, only in the form of a ministerial regulation. We are also looking
[00:27:42] for this ministerial regulation, or whatever form it is,
[00:27:46] we haven't found it. So, learning from this
[00:27:49] incident, we in Commission 10 agree to include
[00:27:52] that regulation in the revision of the
[00:27:54] law.
[00:27:57] Viewers, the Constitutional Court's decision on the lawsuit regarding
[00:28:01] the high school diploma of Vice President Gibran Rakabuming Raka is over,
[00:28:05] but the problem is the alleged smuggling of Article 18 paragraph 3
[00:28:09] of KPU Regulation Number 19 of 2023. So, how did
[00:28:12] this article get into the regulations for presidential and vice-presidential
[00:28:15] candidacies? We are joined by the General Chairman of the Militant Gibran 08
[00:28:18] Nusantara, Andi Aswan, and then we also have
[00:28:22] with
[00:28:25] us a lecturer of constitutional law from Andalas
[00:28:40] you just met Pak Jokowi, right, in Solo? What did Pak Jokowi say about the Constitutional Court's decision
[00:28:44] regarding the high school diploma lawsuit against Gibran?
[00:28:48] Yes, we discussed a lot with
[00:28:51] him, and we also reported. We
[00:28:54] provided documents,
[00:28:57] documents of the results of
[00:29:00] the Constitutional Court hearing and also our legal opinion
[00:29:04] on the Constitutional Court hearing. In addition, we
[00:29:07] exchanged many ideas, because now the legal process,
[00:29:10] so to speak, is over. Now, what is rolling
[00:29:13] out is because in the Constitutional Court's deliberation,
[00:29:17] it says that Mas Vice President,
[00:29:21] Mas Gibran, was not found,
[00:29:24] not possessed, was not found
[00:29:28] to have an equivalent diploma.
[00:29:31] If it is said
[00:29:34] that he has an A-level diploma, which I call an advanced
[00:29:38] diploma, which was explained by our legal team
[00:29:41] at the Constitutional Court hearing, it was indeed
[00:29:45] not included in the
[00:29:47] deliberation of the Constitutional Court judges.
[00:29:50] So, from
[00:29:54] became the entry point for the
[00:29:57] petitioners to be able to
[00:30:01] bring it to
[00:30:04] Representatives, which is said to be
[00:30:07] because the glorification is that he does not have
[00:30:10] a high school diploma, even though he
[00:30:13] has an A-level diploma equivalent to
[00:30:17] that level to continue to a higher
[00:30:20] program, namely a Bachelor's degree at Bradford
[00:30:23] University. So, what was Pak Jokowi's comment on this,
[00:30:26] Bang Andi? Yes, if Pak
[00:30:29] Jokowi, we just follow it as it
[00:30:32] is, right? He is obedient to the law,
[00:30:36] right? If he is called, he will definitely come. If Mas
[00:30:39] is called, he will definitely come for that.
[00:30:43] This means it's not something crucial
[00:30:46] for the president, because all the documents are
[00:30:49] complete. Those documents, I'm sure, will be opened
[00:30:53] by Mas Gibran.