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[00:00:00] make an entry by the applicants
[00:00:03] this is for being able to bring it
[00:00:06] to the People's Representative Council, which is said
[00:00:10] to be because its glorification is that it does not have
[00:00:14] a high school diploma, even though he
[00:00:16] has an A level diploma equivalent to a
[00:00:20] level, it is for
[00:00:23] continuing to a higher program, namely
[00:00:26] S1 Bradford University.
[00:00:34] Yes, if Mr. Jauki, we just follow the flow,
[00:00:37] right? He is obedient to the law,
[00:00:41] if he is called, he will definitely come, sir, even
[00:00:45] if he is called, he will definitely come, that means it is
[00:00:48] not something that must be something
[00:00:51] crucial for war, because all the documents are complete
[00:00:55] for those documents that I have said, will definitely be
[00:00:58] opened by Mas Gibran.
[00:01:00] Yes, as soon as possible,
[00:01:04] has entered the norms that's right, if they try to enter the political arena
[00:01:07] and the DPR with the argument
[00:01:11] that Mas does not have a diploma, that is
[00:01:14] a fallacy, according to me, we will discuss that further, Bang
[00:01:18] Andi, I'm going to Bang Fadli first, Bang Fadli,
[00:01:22] the Constitutional Court's decision apparently did not stop the Gibran
[00:01:26] diploma polemic, it is now rolling into the DPR and also brought
[00:01:30] into the criminal realm, according to you, is there still a constitutional
[00:01:34] law problem that has not been resolved, or is this now more
[00:01:38] of a hot political ball?
[00:01:40] Yes, according to me, both are indeed
[00:01:44] related, Ms. Zilfi, related in the sense
[00:01:48] that if we start from what was requested
[00:01:51] in the presidential election dispute petition
[00:01:54] filed by Professor Denindra and his colleagues,
[00:01:57] this case is in the presidential
[00:02:00] election dispute case, especially
[00:02:04] related to the non-fulfillment of the minimum education
[00:02:08] requirement or. So,
[00:02:11] the Constitutional Court also resolved this issue within
[00:02:14] the framework or framing of the presidential election
[00:02:18] dispute. The material fact proven in the trial
[00:02:22] was that, materially, the Constitutional Court stated
[00:02:25] after conducting a series
[00:02:28] of trials that indeed it was not found
[00:02:31] that the requirement for a minimum high school
[00:02:35] education was met in the series of material
[00:02:38] evidence. The Constitutional Court not only received claims
[00:02:42] from the applicant, but also from the relevant
[00:02:46] party, the KPU (General Election Commission) was also
[00:02:49] called to provide information, and the education attaché
[00:02:53] in Singapore and Australia was also called,
[00:02:56] if we follow the trial.
[00:03:00] The series of trials and the series
[00:03:03] of evidence led the Constitutional Court to
[00:03:06] its ratio decidendi and conclusion
[00:03:09] that no document
[00:03:12] qualification was found to meet the requirement in
[00:03:15] the election law that states a minimum
[00:03:18] education. However, because the KPU's
[00:03:21] petition was an election result research
[00:03:24] petition and the request for disqualification
[00:03:27] was made, the court stated that it could
[00:03:30] no longer be done because the election
[00:03:33] process was already finished, and Gibran had already become
[00:03:37] vice president. However, regarding the non-fulfillment
[00:03:40] of the minimum education requirement, according
[00:03:43] to the court, there are other institutions authorized
[00:03:47] to follow up on it. Of course,
[00:03:51] this polemic
[00:03:53] was not there, is then related to the political
[00:03:56] process in the DPR which will actually be intertwined
[00:04:00] with the legal process. That is, the mechanism
[00:04:03] of what if the president and/or vice president
[00:04:07] no longer meet the requirements, from which requirements are
[00:04:11] the requirements in the election law, so
[00:04:14] this process then continues today after
[00:04:18] the Constitutional Court's decision, so it cannot be
[00:04:21] separated after the Constitutional Court's decision, which materially
[00:04:25] proven is that it is true that the minimum
[00:04:28] education requirement was not fulfilled
[00:04:31] after a series of trials. Okay,
[00:04:35] but it cannot be disqualified because he is already president.
[00:04:39] Okay, we understand. Now, back to Bang Andi,
[00:04:42] politically, there are also
[00:04:46] increase those who try to question whether there was any "smuggling" of articles in
[00:04:49] PKPU (KPU Regulation) Article 18 paragraph 3 of the
[00:04:53] General Election Commission Regulation, which stipulates that presidential
[00:04:56] or vice presidential candidates who attend high school abroad
[00:05:00] do not need to show proof of high school graduation
[00:05:04] if they have graduated from higher education. We just
[00:05:07] played a statement from Ahmad Doli Kurnia, who was
[00:05:10] once in a leadership position in Commission 2,
[00:05:13] and he said that this article was not in
[00:05:17] the PKPU when he was still serving. Do
[00:05:20] you see that there is
[00:05:23] indeed a problem in this PKPU?
[00:05:26] Yes, if we look at this,
[00:05:29] it means that there is something contradictory,
[00:05:32] because the KPU chairman said
[00:05:35] that Mr. Doli Kurnia, Ahmad Doli Kurnia,
[00:05:39] knew about these articles, right? That's what Mr.
[00:05:43] Hasim Asy'ari said, and he even said that
[00:05:46] it's okay to forget but don't be a hypocrite
[00:05:49] or something like that, right? This is interesting,
[00:05:52] this problem, this ball is getting
[00:05:56] wilder, spreading everywhere. So, from our side,
[00:05:59] from Mas Gibran's side, everything has
[00:06:02] been exceeded, right? If what
[00:06:06] else is added with Article 18 paragraph 3, if
[00:06:10] this Article 18 paragraph 3,
[00:06:12] it means that everything
[00:06:16] of the law acknowledged by PKPI,
[00:06:19] right? There are no more problems being debated
[00:06:23] that are brought to the Constitutional Court, which
[00:06:27] are glorified by them as not having a diploma.
[00:06:30] This is an evil frame done by them
[00:06:34] to the public with their buzzers. So
[00:06:37] I still believe that the KPU as
[00:06:41] a state institution would not easily
[00:06:44] smuggle that article, especially when it is
[00:06:47] said that it is specifically for Mas Gibran.
[00:06:50] This is an evil framing, right? This
[00:06:54] is what they are fighting over, between
[00:06:57] Commission 2 at that time and the KPU,
[00:07:01] right? Look for where this article
[00:07:04] came from, it didn't just appear, right?
[00:07:08] There must have been intense discussions, don't
[00:07:12] let there be a dispute between the KPU
[00:07:15] and Commission 2 in the end. Okay, Bang
[00:07:19] Andi, we understand, thank you. And finally,
[00:07:22] to Bang Fadli, is it really not that
[00:07:25] easy to "smuggle" an article into the
[00:07:28] KPU? And if this needs to be corrected,
[00:07:32] from whom or who should evaluate whether there was any smuggling
[00:07:36] in the KPU at that time, Bang Fadli?
[00:07:39] Yes, the name of smuggling an article
[00:07:42] is definitely not possible, I don't know,
[00:07:46] as far as I remember. Bang Anjing was
[00:07:49] a party in the trial yesterday, in that
[00:07:53] case, but in that trial, it should
[00:07:56] be clear that it was stated by
[00:07:59] Bawaslu that in the consultation process in
[00:08:03] the DPR, that article was not there in
[00:08:06] the KPU's presentation and in the document
[00:08:10] that was then given when the KPU regulation consultation
[00:08:13] process had to be consulted with the DPR
[00:08:16] before it was ratified and then enacted. Article
[00:08:20] 18 paragraph 3 was not there. In the
[00:08:24] powerpoint presented by the KPU, it was
[00:08:27] also not there. So, if now there is
[00:08:31] a narrative or suspicion
[00:08:34] that this article
[00:08:37] was smuggled or then only appeared later after
[00:08:41] the formal process of forming the KPU regulation, then
[00:08:44] it becomes relevant to be investigated. So,
[00:08:48] if it was proven
[00:08:51] in the trial at the Constitutional Court that
[00:08:55] it was not there in the formal process
[00:08:58] of forming the KPU regulation, then if it
[00:09:02] is proven that it
[00:09:05] then there will be a debate
[00:09:09] and a war of comments
[00:09:11] between the former KPU chairman Wakim Macari
[00:09:15] and Bang Doli Kurnia, who was
[00:09:19] then in Commission 2. Therefore, according to
[00:09:23] me, it is very possible that after the
[00:09:26] consultation, there is still synchronization
[00:09:29] in the process in the Ministry of Law,
[00:09:32] in the Directorate General
[00:09:35] of Legislation, it must be checked, right?
[00:09:39] All the minutes of the meeting are
[00:09:43] there, and that must be proven. If we
[00:09:46] look at the process of drafting the KPU
[00:09:50] regulation, formally, in the KPU,
[00:09:54] it is not there. The consultation process
[00:09:57] in the DPR and the KPU's presentation
[00:10:01] materials that were distributed to the DPR at
[00:10:04] that time are not there. Okay, Bang Adi, you wanted
[00:10:08] to answer, you must answer.
[00:10:12] Yes, if we look at it, that's why
[00:10:15] we are a relevant party, right? There's
[00:10:19] no talk about that article, that's the
[00:10:23] right of the respondent, which is the KPU.
[00:10:26] That's a dispute, right, between Bawaslu
[00:10:29] and the KPU. The problem has also
[00:10:33] been explained, there's no access
[00:10:37] to talk about it, it doesn't
[00:10:40] mean that it's a rush,
[00:10:43] right, that it's smuggling and so
[00:10:47] on, there's nothing to talk about,
[00:10:51] right? I've already said that it's
[00:10:55] impossible for the KPU institution
[00:10:59] to smuggle that article.
[00:11:02] That must go through stages
[00:11:05] of cooperation with the DPR
[00:11:07] Commission 2 for that. That's why
[00:11:10] Mr. Hatim Asari said
[00:11:13] that it's there, so just open
[00:11:17] it, all the minutes
[00:11:20] are there, because in the
[00:11:24] KPU trial, the time was very
[00:11:28] tight for evidence, right? So, if you
[00:11:31] want to, the KPU and
[00:11:35] Commission 2 should sit together,
[00:11:38] right? Outside of the commotion,
[00:11:41] right, Bang Fadli. Because the process
[00:11:45] in the Constitutional Court is final and binding,
[00:11:48] if this is to be followed up and investigated
[00:11:52] further, then everything now depends on the
[00:11:56] political process in the DPR, either through
[00:11:59] the right to state an opinion or
[00:12:03] through the right of inquiry.
[00:12:06] Yes, exactly.
[00:12:16] I think it's very,
[00:12:19] very relevant to push
[00:12:22] for it,
[00:12:26] so the supervisory function, the right
[00:12:30] to supervise, the right of inquiry related
[00:12:33] to the drafting of this KPU regulation,
[00:12:37] whether it will eventually lead to
[00:12:41] an opinion and this can be opened
[00:12:44] transparently for the improvement of our
[00:12:48] election administration and evaluation of the 2024
[00:12:51] election administration must be very important to
[00:12:57] do so that incidents like this
[00:13:00] are not normalized and most importantly,
[00:13:04] things that worsen the integrity
[00:13:07] of our election administration are not repeated.
[00:13:10] I agree to encourage
[00:13:13] this to be
[00:13:20] opened
[00:13:21] and for all
[00:13:30] parties
[00:13:31] to be summoned,
[00:13:35] and we will
[00:13:37] see what the
[00:13:41] outcome will be, whether it will be
[00:13:45] in the process of stating an opinion
[00:13:49] related to the requirements. That is something
[00:13:52] important to keep pushing
[00:13:56] for. Thank you, Bang Fadli and
[00:14:00] Bang Adi Aswan, for your
[00:14:03] time on today's program.
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[00:22:20] In the video, Sarullah forces
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[00:22:26] cannons from above,
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[00:22:56] vowed to continue escalating operations
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[00:24:57] were seen wearing white
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