METROTV — broadcast 20261105 090000 UTC 464 transcript segments Google Cloud Speech-to-Text API (Chirp) + Gemini 2.5 Flash Non-Thinking Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:00:00] Thousands of events, important [00:00:02] issues, [00:00:07] more than just [00:00:08] headlines. [00:00:13] We present a summary of selected [00:00:15] events to provide a broader [00:00:17] picture. [00:00:21] Metro This week, every Sunday [00:00:23] at. [00:00:29] Metro. This is with Hamdan Al-Kafi. [00:00:43] We also have other information [00:00:46] witness? Yes, Viewers, this is Headline News at 4 PM Western Indonesia Time. The 7th President [00:00:50] Joko Widodo attended a trial on alleged fake diplomas at [00:00:54] the East Jakarta District Court. Before showing his diploma to the court [00:00:57] visitors. Jokowi had to ask for permission from the [00:01:02] Rutek, you with some of our selected information, judges to show his diploma [00:01:05] from elementary school, middle school, high school, and his [00:01:08] S1 diploma. Later, Your Honor, [00:01:12] outside, we will just see here [00:01:15] that the evidence [00:01:19] is like this, the evidence, [00:01:22] oh, I see. [00:01:44] like what was [00:02:01] The one who went to college, sir, [00:02:02] who went to college, [00:02:06] meanwhile, Joko Widodo claimed [00:02:09] real impact on society. People of to feel humiliated and degraded due to the fake diploma accusations that [00:02:12] have been attached and addressed to him. He [00:02:15] stated that this polemic not only tarnished his name [00:02:18] personally, but also impacted his family's [00:02:21] reputation. [00:02:24] At minute 57 to [00:02:27] 58, this is my... short tip [00:02:31] only, two times mayor, [00:02:34] once governor, two times [00:02:37] president and it passed. If [00:02:41] for example, his diploma was really [00:02:45] to Roryo and fake, this is really bad. [00:02:49] believe that what What's the importance, what's the importance, this could become [00:02:52] a precedent and so on. So [00:02:56] actually, the photo on that diploma... [00:03:01] "Bang Rismo has also done it, I have also done it, that's not [00:03:05] Jokowi, we have already reached the conclusion that it's another person with [00:03:09] the name Dumatno Butamo, we just informed [00:03:12] Your Honor." [00:03:16] And viewers, the public prosecutor immediately raised an objection and [00:03:19] complaint to the panel of judges when the defendant's lawyer asked [00:03:23] questions that were deemed irrelevant and repeated regarding [00:03:27] the main case against Joko Widodo. [00:03:31] Uh, so that was already asked, [00:03:34] then it was played by the public prosecutor, were [00:03:38] all of those true? Yes, it's true, Your Honor, it's true, [00:03:42] I'm repeating it because I was asked to, yes, we respect [00:03:45] not to interrupt, that's why we don't interrupt, so it's up to the panel [00:03:49] of judges if they think it's enough, [00:03:52] we just want to emphasize, Your Honor, may we ask [00:03:56] questions, Your Honor, regarding that interruption, what exactly does that mean, Your Honor? Because [00:04:00] if there's a repetition of questions, Your Honor, may we ask, uh-huh, [00:04:03] so, uh, I was the one who interrupted earlier, yes, because [00:04:07] it was already asked, even all those minutes [00:04:11] were already shown by the public prosecutor, right? Yes, [00:04:13] like this, I respect the witness to [00:04:16] elaborate, that's why I didn't interrupt, I want to say enough, another time [00:04:20] I will say enough, because this is an emphasis because there [00:04:24] are follow-up questions, please, uh, public [00:04:27] prosecutor, don't disturb us, please. [00:04:40] Please continue. Okay, yes, wait a minute. Later, if [00:04:43] there is a repeated question, then the witness [00:04:46] has already said it, can it be [00:04:50] said like that? Yes, please do so because we don't remember [00:04:54] everything that has been asked or not. Please, 3 hours [00:04:57] of questions. And besides, that is a question from [00:05:01] the public prosecutor, not whether we have to pay attention to the proceedings, so [00:05:04] Your Honor must remember, thank you. Enough, Your [00:05:08] Honor, yes, enough, we were polite [00:05:11] not to... interrupt, yes, enough, [00:05:15] how many times, Your Honor, please stop, [00:05:18] yes, if it's to be removed, please, if [00:05:21] you don't want to, then we have agreed earlier, [00:05:24] everything will be submitted to the panel, don't come directly to us, [00:05:27] please, yes. So, that's enough, public [00:05:31] prosecutor, we already [00:05:34] cut off when there was a repeated question, [00:05:36] yes, and I have already stated [00:05:39] that if there is a repeated question later, because [00:06:14] including the Chairman of Commission 3 of the DPRRI, Habiburrahman, is disappointed if [00:06:18] the information about wiretapping against a number of legislative members [00:06:21] is proven to be true and carried out illegally. Stay with us on Metro TV. [00:06:56] Can the witness provide an explanation [00:06:58] to us regarding the process of the witness's [00:07:02] community service [00:07:02] program? [00:07:07] Yes, the process is normal, Your Honor, [00:07:10] so we [00:07:13] were sent together [00:07:15] with former president of the Republic [00:07:18] of Indonesia, telling a story about doing community service [00:07:22] or KKN in a village in Boyolali, Central Java, with [00:07:25] three of his colleagues at Gadjah Mada University. This was stated when [00:07:29] testifying in the defamation and slander trial regarding [00:07:33] fake diplomas with defendant Rosulyo and [00:07:36] Ketoyan [00:07:39] District of Wonosgoro. [00:08:12] What's it called, I was quite surprised to receive such information. The Chairman [00:08:16] of Commission 3 of the DPR RI, Habib Rahman, admitted to being surprised [00:08:20] by the information about illegal wiretapping against the leaders and members of [00:08:24] Commission 3 [00:08:27] of the DPR who have been partners of Commission 3 of the DPR. Nevertheless, his party [00:08:30] believes that National Police Chief Suseto will uncover this wiretapping case [00:08:34] objectively and transparently. Illegally, [00:08:37] yes, wiretapped illegally, yes, of course we are disappointed, [00:08:40] yes, we also. How is it, [00:08:44] hello viewers, how are you today? I am Hamdan Alkavi, [00:08:47] inviting you to watch a variety of selected information [00:08:51] that we have summarized from morning until this evening. And viewers, this is [00:08:54] Metro Today in full for you. [00:09:32] The 7th President of the Republic of Indonesia [00:09:35] testified in the defamation case of a diploma with the defendant Suryo. [00:09:38] In this trial, the judge warned visitors, media, and lawyer [00:09:42] Roy not to broadcast this trial live. [00:10:04] at the East Jakarta District Court asked all visitors to respect [00:10:08] and obey the proceedings. The judge threatened anyone [00:10:11] who did not comply. [00:10:55] Tell me about starting elementary school in Surakarta, Central Java, [00:10:58] and graduating with a bachelor's degree from Gadjah Mada University [00:11:02] Yogyakarta. Uh, witness, could [00:11:06] you please describe your education history from elementary school [00:11:09] to [00:11:11] college? [00:11:14] Thank you, Mr. Public [00:11:16] Prosecutor, whom I [00:11:20] respect. [00:11:24] So, starting from elementary school, [00:11:27] my elementary school was State Elementary School number [00:11:30] 111 in [00:11:32] Surakarta. Then middle school was [00:11:36] Middle School [00:11:39] 1, State Middle School 1 in [00:11:42] Surakarta. Then high school was State High School [00:11:46] 6 in Surakarta, and [00:11:49] then I continued my S1 [00:11:53] degree at the Faculty of [00:11:56] Forestry, Gadjah Mada University, Your Honor. [00:11:59] And before the Panel of Judges, Jokowi [00:12:02] denied the claim that the photo on his UGM S1 diploma [00:12:06] was a photo of someone else. In his testimony, Joko Widodo [00:12:09] confirmed that the photo printed on the diploma was his [00:12:13] own photo. Wasn't that right, witness, that [00:12:17] diploma 11 belongs to the witness, right? [00:12:21] That diploma belonged to the witness, right? Yes, [00:12:24] Your Honor. Earlier, there was a photo, right, witness? [00:12:27] There was a photo, is that the witness's [00:12:30] photo or Dumatmo Butomo's photo? [00:12:33] It's my photo, Your Honor. Why would Dumat's [00:12:36] photo be put there? Your own photo, right? Answering the public prosecutor's [00:12:40] question in court, Jokowi emphasized that the photo on his [00:12:43] S1 diploma was not someone else's photo. In [00:12:47] this case, it was Dumatno's [00:12:50] Budiutomo's photo, and he mentioned that Dumatno was his distant cousin [00:12:53] who was only 8 years old when he graduated from college [00:12:57] in 1985. In the defamation and slander case [00:13:01] with defendant Suryo at the East Jakarta District Court, [00:13:04] Jokowi even showed a series of his diploma documents [00:13:08] from elementary school to his bachelor's degree to the court [00:13:11] visitors. This is on the right, please excuse me, maybe [00:13:14] the operator can zoom out, yes, that's right, [00:13:18] Your Honor. Please excuse me, earlier, as was shown, we [00:13:21] have shown evidence in the form of a diploma. And in the trial, Jokowi [00:13:25] was also asked to explain the community service program [00:13:29] he undertook while studying at Gadjah Mada University. [00:13:31] Can [00:13:34] the witness provide an explanation to us [00:13:37] regarding the process of the witness's community service [00:13:40] program? [00:13:45] Yes, the process is normal, Your Honor, [00:13:48] so we were sent [00:13:51] together with all [00:13:55] students who [00:13:57] were going to do KKN [00:14:01] were sent by the Institute for Community Service [00:14:04] (LBM) of UGM [00:14:07] to villages, and at that time [00:14:10] we were placed, once again, in Ketoyan [00:14:14] Village, Wonosegoro Sub-district, [00:14:18] Boyolali Regency, Central Java [00:14:21] Province, together [00:14:25] with three people from the Faculty of Law, Ms. [00:14:29] Yohana from [00:14:30] the Faculty [00:14:33] of Biology, Rincedwijaya, and [00:14:36] from the Faculty of Engineering, [00:14:39] Mr. Eko (deceased). [00:14:42] We conducted KKN for [00:14:45] 3 months, and during [00:14:49] those 3 months we conducted [00:14:52] activities related to community service. [00:14:55] What we did at that time was [00:14:59] to make writings of 10 what [00:15:02] 10 main programs of PKK, fix [00:15:06] the writings of musholla, writings of mosques that we [00:15:09] renewed, we went home and we made them with [00:15:13] different letters, [00:15:15] and I graduated [00:15:19] KKN with an A grade, Your Honor. [00:15:23] Meanwhile, the public prosecutor [00:15:38] Yes, this one first. [00:15:41] Yes, this is correct. This is your [00:15:44] photo, witness, right? Your Honor. Next to whom, [00:15:47] witness? My future wife, [00:15:51] Your Honor. At that time, my future wife was ready. [00:15:53] Next. [00:15:55] Then, [00:16:00] all right, witness, you can also [00:16:03] see photos of Jokowi in his youth that were [00:16:07] shown when he testified in Roe Suryo's trial. When confirmed [00:16:11] by the prosecutor, Jokowi admitted that the photos shown in this trial [00:16:15] were photos [00:16:16] of himself. [00:16:20] Is this also your photo, [00:16:24] Your Honor. At that time, it was called a wedding photo, [00:16:28] witness, you know that in '86, witness was going [00:16:31] to [00:16:34] get married. All right, [00:16:38] the Presiding Judge briefly interrupted Jokowi's answer and asked [00:16:42] him to answer [00:16:44] the question without commenting. And this moment, [00:16:47] viewers, happened when the prosecutor asked if Jokowi felt offended [00:16:51] by Roh Suryo's statements regarding the fake diploma [00:16:54] accusations. Your Honor, [00:16:57] earlier, [00:17:01] the honorable Mr. Royo stated that as [00:17:04] a researcher, in my opinion, it's not [00:17:07] a researcher. The ethics of a researcher are not like [00:17:11] this. Come to [00:17:14] UGM bringing one, [00:17:17] please just answer the question, uh, not a comment [00:17:21] said. [00:17:24] Can the question be repeated? Alright, we'll repeat it, [00:17:27] Your Honor, regarding [00:17:29] the [00:17:32] video upload from the YouTube social media upload on [00:17:36] the Official I news account. Among other things, [00:17:39] are you also, witness, bothered by the words [00:17:42] spoken by the defendant? [00:17:45] Bothered, Your Honor. And viewers, [00:17:48] Suryo's lawyer, Refri Harun, insisted that his client, along [00:17:52] with Dr. Tiva, should be acquitted of the alleged defamation [00:17:56] and slander case related to the fake diploma polemic of the 7th [00:17:59] President Joko Widodo. Rafli stated that there was no criminal [00:18:03] article that could be applied to the two [00:18:05] defendants. Only we will, of course, defend [00:18:09] against the charges, which we also want to question. [00:18:13] So, just wait, viewers, this was conveyed by the lawyer [00:18:16] when met at the East Jakarta District Court. According to him, the charges [00:18:20] of defamation and slander addressed [00:18:23] Dr. Tivat were not appropriate. He argued that the diploma issue, which [00:18:26] is now a polemic, is part of public interest, [00:18:30] so the element of slander cannot simply [00:18:33] be attached to Rosurya and Dr. Tiva. Lying, doing something [00:18:37] that is not true, then I [00:18:40] think and am convinced [00:18:43] that Mas Roy and Dr. Tiva should be acquitted. There is not [00:18:46] a single article that can be applied to them. [00:18:50] Neither defamation because Mas Roy and [00:18:53] Dr. Tifa are working for public interest. [00:18:57] You want to know if it's original or not, right? Unless you [00:19:01] don't care, but as long as you care, then this is for the [00:19:05] public interest, right? And the second, if it's called [00:19:08] slander, that's not true. Slander is if Mas Roy and [00:19:11] Dr. Tifa know that the diploma is authentic, but [00:19:15] they say it's fake, that's slander. Meanwhile, Joko [00:19:19] Widodo admitted to feeling humiliated and degraded due to the fake [00:19:22] diploma accusations that implicated his name, and before the public [00:19:25] prosecutor, Jokowi stated that the accusations had tarnished his good name [00:19:29] and damaged his reputation, including his family's [00:19:31] good name. [00:19:36] The immaterial loss that... university [00:19:39] immaterial loss due to the tarnishing of my [00:19:42] good name and also [00:19:46] my family's, because of the tarnishing of my [00:19:49] good name and also [00:19:53] my family's. [00:19:55] And then I also feel that I have been humiliated, [00:19:59] degraded extremely, [00:20:02] then the third is that I also feel... I [00:20:06] am also accused of using [00:20:09] a fake [00:20:13] diploma [00:20:14] to [00:20:17] run for mayor twice, governor [00:20:20] once, and president twice, [00:20:23] Your [00:20:29] Honor. What is the immaterial loss [00:20:32] you, witness, have [00:20:34] suffered? [00:20:37] It's the tarnishing of my good name, Your Honor, and [00:20:40] also my reputation [00:20:44] that I have, [00:20:47] Your Honor. Because if we look at the last [00:20:51] survey, as far as I [00:20:54] remember, 18% [00:20:58] of Indonesian people believe these fake diploma accusations, [00:21:01] Your Honor. 18%, if [00:21:04] converted to people, is approximately 34 million [00:21:08] people who believe these fake [00:21:11] diploma accusations, [00:21:13] Your Honor. So, witness, [00:21:16] you feel that public trust has... [00:21:23] That's right, Your Honor, 34 million people believe, Your Honor, that these [00:21:27] fake [00:21:28] are not true. accusations [00:21:33] for you, including the illegal wiretapping case, [00:21:37] along with two high-ranking police officers, which sparked anger [00:21:40] and strong condemnation from high-ranking political [00:21:43] parties. [00:22:04] Bareng Wonder Z Children are free to be [00:22:08] themselves. Just top up to [00:22:10] level up. Wonder on [00:22:13] your [00:22:16] wonders. [00:22:20] Real, compiling actual [00:22:23] instructions, I'm confused, I've been thinking about where [00:22:26] it came from. I have never seen wood this [00:22:30] big. [00:22:32] Law enforcement regarding this is not just an environmental issue, but also [00:22:36] a sovereignty issue. Bring forth the truth [00:22:40] without compromise. [00:22:43] Reality every Saturday [00:22:45] at night. Throughout [00:22:49] 2020, Indonesia faced various challenges. [00:22:52] A number of figures successfully demonstrated their leadership in [00:22:55] bringing about changes that had a [00:22:59] the Year 2026 [00:23:01] soon. [00:23:03] Editorial Media Indonesia Monday to Friday live at 7 AM. [00:23:18] Investigators have named [00:23:20] three suspects with the [00:23:24] initials [00:23:25] LSP, [00:23:28] ASN, and [00:23:30] EH. [00:23:37] We also [00:23:39] has been done may have entered [00:23:42] the category that we can consider as an act leading to [00:23:46] an expert act. [00:23:53] Viewers, before the trial, the 7th President of the Republic [00:23:56] of Indonesia, Joko Widodo, only smiled when asked about [00:24:00] the alleged illegal wiretapping against President Prabo Subianto, which [00:24:03] implicated the former National Police Chief, General Prabowo. This moment [00:24:07] occurred when a number of journalists asked questions to Jokowi [00:24:11] during his presence at the trial of Roy Suryo and Dr. Tiva at the [00:24:15] East Jakarta District [00:24:15] Court. [00:24:19] Sir. [00:24:44] What you are wearing now, sir, we ask for a path, sir, meaning fighting [00:24:48] injustice, right, sir? This, sir. What, [00:24:50] sir? Watch out, [00:24:53] watch out. [00:24:57] Meanwhile, the Chairman of Commission 3 of the DPR RI, Habiburrahman, [00:25:00] admitted to being surprised to receive information about alleged illegal wiretapping against [00:25:04] the leadership and members of Commission 3 of the DPR RI, [00:25:07] stating that his party felt disappointed if the information [00:25:11] about wiretapping against a number of legislative members was [00:25:14] proven to be carried out illegally. When met at the parliament [00:25:17] complex, Habiburrahman revealed that Commission 3 of the DPR RI [00:25:21] has provided a number of statements and support for the former National [00:25:25] Police Chief Setyosigit Prabowa, who is a suspect in the alleged illegal [00:25:28] wiretapping against the president and other public figures in the country. [00:25:32] He categorized this illegal wiretapping as insubordination [00:25:34] or defiance towards superiors in the institution, [00:25:38] and his party handed over the resolution of this case [00:25:41] entirely to the police so that it can be revealed [00:25:45] clearly and, especially, the motive behind this [00:25:48] illegal wiretapping. [00:25:55] Yes, we are also, how to say, a bit surprised [00:25:59] to get such information that [00:26:03] the leaders of Commission 3 were also wiretapped. If friends [00:26:06] follow how we have always [00:26:09] expressed good opinions, defended the person concerned, [00:26:13] and so on, if there is such an event, [00:26:17] we will see how it develops later. But if we were [00:26:20] indeed wiretapped illegally, yes, wiretapped illegally, [00:26:23] yes, of course we are disappointed, yes. And [00:26:26] Habiburrahman also emphasized that his party believes that the National [00:26:30] Police Chief Suyudioseto will uncover the illegal wiretapping case against President [00:26:34] Prabowo and other parties objectively and transparently. He [00:26:37] reminded the National Police Chief not to discriminate in arresting [00:26:41] the intellectual masterminds behind the illegal wiretapping that led [00:26:44] to the former National Police Chief and Presidential Chief of Staff Listo Sigit Prabowo becoming [00:26:47] a suspect. Mr. Suyudi will surely do his job [00:26:51] well, we trust him, but on social media, many [00:26:55] are also linking it to the Solo gang, the Solo gang, [00:26:58] the Oslo gang, law is law. Thank [00:27:02] you. Yes, Mr. Suyudi will surely do his job well, we [00:27:05] trust him. [00:27:08] Yes, and viewers, the illegal wiretapping case that implicated former [00:27:12] National Police Chief General Prabowo along with two other high-ranking police [00:27:16] officers sparked anger and strong threats from the chairmen and [00:27:19] high-ranking officials of political parties in the country. Political party elites urged [00:27:23] this case to be thoroughly investigated [00:27:24] because it has been categorized as an [00:27:27] act of treason. Regarding the internal cleansing program, [00:27:30] namely public trust starting from a clean [00:27:33] police force. In carrying out their duties, they must be trustworthy and [00:27:37] maintain public trust. What and who is the user, [00:27:41] sir? Once again, this is the initial process, [00:27:45] colleagues, it's impossible for us [00:27:48] within 24 hours to have a suspect. [00:27:52] We will detain suspects based on [00:27:55] the police's criminal investigation. In early November 2026, illegal [00:27:59] wiretapping using the law interception management [00:28:02] system not only targeted President Prabowo [00:28:06] but also extended to a number of political party chairmen, state [00:28:09] officials, community organization figures, NGOs, media, [00:28:12] and even business [00:28:13] circles. [00:28:16] Namely, public trust starts from [00:28:18] the police. [00:28:22] Sugiono regretted the alleged wiretapping targeting President Prabo Subianto, and [00:28:25] according to Sugiono, this action is a serious matter because the president [00:28:29] is the head of government, and he asked all parties to [00:28:33] respect the legal process so that the motive and background of the alleged wiretapping [00:28:36] against the president can be fully revealed. The investigation being [00:28:40] conducted. And we will review [00:28:44] and monitor it again. Will political parties perhaps do something [00:28:47] that, in my opinion, [00:28:50] is extraordinary? It's very regrettable. [00:28:53] Then also, we at [00:28:56] Gerindra believe, what is the motive, what [00:29:00] is the basis? It's like that. Wiretapping [00:29:03] was carried out against the head [00:29:06] of government, the president, and this was by an institution [00:29:10] that is under God's grace. [00:29:13] Uh, if it were me, [00:29:16] I would argue [00:29:18] that this is a [00:29:20] form [00:29:23] of insubordination, insubordination, [00:29:27] then it could be [00:29:29] that the motives... well. [00:29:35] The same thing was also conveyed by the Secretary General of the PDI-P [00:29:39] DPP, Hasto Kristianto, who strongly condemned the alleged illegal wiretapping case that targeted [00:29:42] President Prabowo and cannot be tolerated. He considered [00:29:46] this action to be a violation of human rights, a violation of [00:29:50] democratic rights, and resistance against the national legal [00:29:53] system. [00:29:58] Authority, this is not just an abuse of authority. [00:30:02] But this is a very serious human rights violation [00:30:06] against democratic rights and also against the national [00:30:09] legal system. Furthermore, the illegal wiretapping [00:30:13] was also aimed at the president as head of state and head of [00:30:17] government, so this is an act of treason that cannot [00:30:20] be tolerated, whatever the reason, and must [00:30:23] be thoroughly investigated who are the actors [00:30:27] involved [00:30:28] in it. [00:30:31] In line with this, the Secretary General of the Democratic Party, Herman [00:30:35] Herun, believes that this wiretapping cannot stand alone because it involves [00:30:38] several aspects. The Democratic Party fully entrusts the disclosure of this case [00:30:42] to law enforcement officials and hopes that the investigation will be professional [00:30:46] and transparent. [00:30:49] Eight. Brother Drajat Hari Wibu, I think it cannot [00:30:53] be, it cannot stand alone, [00:30:56] yes, there must be collaboration, so to speak.