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[00:00:00] other suspects in this case
[00:00:04] yes hello if it's possible, there
[00:00:08] must be, because in my opinion, it's impossible for these people to work only in groups of three,
[00:00:11] especially for example, if the police chief only acted
[00:00:15] as an intellectual,
[00:00:18] just giving orders. But for the technical implementation,
[00:00:21] I think there are
[00:00:24] people who really have the ability to do
[00:00:28] this, right? But if you look at the information released by
[00:00:31] the police, it turns out that the tapping device was taken
[00:00:35] to the police chief's house after he stopped being the police chief, right?
[00:00:38] The LSP stopped being the police chief, the device was taken
[00:00:41] home, right? By those two generals, each
[00:00:45] taking their tapping device to their respective homes. So
[00:00:48] that means it was indeed
[00:00:51] done for limited
[00:00:55] purposes, that's what I mean. Only the police chief and
[00:00:58] former police chief and the people
[00:01:02] he trusted knew about it. Now, whether this can develop,
[00:01:07] communities that are, I think, as I said before, it's impossible for this
[00:01:09] work to be done by one or two people,
[00:01:13] one, two or three people, right? But
[00:01:17] this will require other experts
[00:01:20] to do it, sir. Is there a client for this wiretap, according to
[00:01:24] you,
[00:01:24] sir?
[00:01:28] How about it, sir? Is there a client for this wiretap, according to
[00:01:31] Mr. Vikar?
[00:01:34] The question is why is the police chief tapping? What
[00:01:37] is his interest? In my opinion, there is a party, there is a user,
[00:01:41] there is a third party
[00:01:44] to us who who needs it, especially since he is tapping the head of state, the head
[00:01:48] of government, right? Where he
[00:01:51] is his subordinate, I mean, his
[00:01:53] relationship is to serve, even defend
[00:01:57] actually, if there is a threat to the head of state who
[00:02:01] the proceeds appointed him in this government structure. But back
[00:02:03] to the police's efforts
[00:02:06] to apply other layered articles, such as treason,
[00:02:10] how is the construction of this treason article
[00:02:13] so that it won't be easily overturned in
[00:02:16] court?
[00:02:19] Yes, that's it. It must be investigated,
[00:02:22] who is actually the user of these wiretap results?
[00:02:25] From there, it will be clear
[00:02:29] what the purpose is. The purpose is, because the president was tapped,
[00:02:32] it's certain that the direction
[00:02:37] brought two books that is towards the illegal overthrow of the president, that's what I mean, not through elections,
[00:02:41] but through an act, whether
[00:02:44] according to the law, whether killed or other acts
[00:02:48] that then cause the president to not function as
[00:02:51] he should. Because of that, then there is another party
[00:02:54] who then seizes that position to
[00:02:58] become president. That's it, sir. Yes, but in this case,
[00:03:02] from your point of view
[00:03:05] as a criminal law expert, do you see
[00:03:08] if there is a similar interpretation
[00:03:12] between Bareskrim, Propam, and you as a criminal law expert
[00:03:16] in this case?
[00:03:18] Yes, I think I'm just analyzing
[00:03:22] what Bareskrim and Propam
[00:03:25] the alleged illegal tapping are doing. Now, if Propam is from the perspective
[00:03:28] of behavior,
[00:03:32] from the perspective of professionalism, actually,
[00:03:35] but what's more important is Bareskrim because
[00:03:38] Bareskrim has a broader scope, I mean,
[00:03:41] it can investigate deeply,
[00:03:45] far. This means it's not
[00:03:48] just what they find on the ground today,
[00:03:52] but they can also develop what they
[00:03:55] examine, what evidence they obtain
[00:03:59] into other areas. So it's not impossible
[00:04:02] that there will be a third party who is also
[00:04:06] part of this event, sir.
[00:04:09] Yes, Mr. Fikar, yesterday I interviewed
[00:04:12] directly one of the members of the National Police Commission regarding the use
[00:04:16] of this startup tool, which indeed its authorization
[00:04:20] is under the authority of the National Police Chief and can
[00:04:23] be delegated to the Head of Criminal Investigation.
[00:04:27] From this, to prevent similar incidents from happening,
[00:04:31] what can you recommend regarding the SOP for using
[00:04:34] this tapping device? Yes,
[00:04:37] if until today, the
[00:04:41] criminal act of wiretapping
[00:04:44] was born, it means
[00:04:47] that even if
[00:04:50] wiretapping is logical and reasonable,
[00:04:53] it can still be misused. So
[00:04:57] the anticipation is already there, sir, regarding illegal
[00:05:01] wiretapping. So
[00:05:04] earlier what in my opinion, this rule
[00:05:07] in the Criminal Procedure Code states that
[00:05:10] wiretapping is part of a forced effort. In fact, in the Criminal Procedure Code,
[00:05:14] for further explanation,
[00:05:18] a wiretapping law will be made, meaning
[00:05:20] that the DPR should immediately draft this, and
[00:05:24] that law can expand authority, and can also
[00:05:27] limit it. So in my opinion,
[00:05:30] the limitation is that
[00:05:33] if possible, the authority to wiretap
[00:05:37] should not be too broad, given to
[00:05:40] other interests than law enforcement
[00:05:44] interests. Because what, because it's
[00:05:47] biased, what's it called, it can
[00:05:51] potentially be misused, without strict supervision, it can potentially be
[00:05:55] misused. So besides for law
[00:05:58] enforcement, I think if it's then given to
[00:06:02] intelligence agencies, for example,
[00:06:05] there must also be a strict system
[00:06:09] to supervise so that for example,
[00:06:13] intelligence agencies are not used politically
[00:06:16] to monitor
[00:06:19] for example, communities like
[00:06:22] clerics or preachers and so on. This is what I think
[00:06:26] the DPR must really think about,
[00:06:29] meaning that even if a wiretapping law is formed,
[00:06:33] it should be limited in such a way that its
[00:06:36] bias or deviation or potential
[00:06:39] misuse becomes small. That's it, sir.
[00:06:42] Alright, Mr. Fikar, are you confident that the handling of this case
[00:06:46] will be objective and
[00:06:48] transparent?
[00:06:52] It should be, right? Because we were all
[00:06:55] surprised, right? Suddenly,
[00:06:58] after the replacement of the police chief, there was a new police chief, then
[00:07:02] there were indications, then it was revealed, oh, it turns out
[00:07:06] there were actions by the former police chief,
[00:07:10] who conducted wiretaps that were aimed at
[00:07:13] the government, at the president, in fact, and that's what surprised
[00:07:17] all of us, actually, but as I said before,
[00:07:20] the police should handle
[00:07:24] this seriously,
[00:07:27] seriously. If possible,
[00:07:31] also involve other institutions.
[00:07:34] If there are elements of corruption, for example,
[00:07:37] they can cooperate with the KPK, right? Misuse
[00:07:41] can also be an element, actually,
[00:07:44] although it might be a bit difficult
[00:07:48] to formulate the state loss, but with
[00:07:51] the misuse of authority and the use of state facilities
[00:07:55] for purposes that are not
[00:07:58] the proper conduct of government,
[00:08:01] then I think in the future,
[00:08:04] the police must strictly supervise
[00:08:07] the exercise of their
[00:08:10] authorities, especially now that coercive
[00:08:13] measures have developed, not just arrests, detentions, searches,
[00:08:17] seizures, but also wiretapping,
[00:08:21] preventing people from traveling,
[00:08:24] then being able to enter post offices, rummage through people's mail, and so on. Now
[00:08:27] that has become widespread, so
[00:08:31] the police's concentration
[00:08:35] should be directed to
[00:08:39] tasks that are indeed expected not to be
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[00:10:38] Metro Hari Ini. Commission 3 of the DPRRI will regulate the mechanism for returning
[00:10:42] assets of victims of fraudulent investments through the
[00:10:45] Draft Law on Asset Forfeiture related to criminal acts.
[00:10:49] The Chairman of Commission 3 of the DPRRI, Habib Rahman, stated that these
[00:10:52] assets can be directly seized and confiscated and returned to the
[00:10:56] victims in cases of fraudulent investments
[00:10:59] such as Binomo and even fraud disguised as umrah trips.
[00:11:03] The assets successfully confiscated will be regulated and so that they can
[00:11:06] be returned directly to the people who became victims. This step is expected
[00:11:10] to cut the process of returning
[00:11:14] been considered time-consuming because it has to go through a number of legal
[00:11:17] stages. The Chairman of Commission 3 of the DPRRI, Habiburrahman, said that this
[00:11:21] mechanism is different from asset forfeiture in criminal acts of corruption, the results of which...
[00:11:43] In the context of criminal acts of corruption, okay, it's confiscated for the state, but assets from criminal acts
[00:11:47] of investment that harm many people,
[00:11:50] like yesterday, there was
[00:11:53] Binomo. If it's umrah travel,
[00:11:56] yes, we will arrange for it to be directly
[00:11:59] confiscated, seized, and distributed
[00:12:03] directly to the victims. The input
[00:12:05] yesterday came from the victims who came
[00:12:09] were harmed, their assets were taken for the
[00:12:13] state, they entered the state first and then it was a very long story
[00:12:17] to reach the victims. Well, with this law, we
[00:12:20] want to ensure that victims
[00:12:23] immediately receive
[00:12:26] from the confiscated assets, if necessary,
[00:12:28] without a trial.
[00:12:31] Examining public policy observer Borotua Silahi as a witness
[00:12:35] from the report on the alleged invalidity of the diploma
[00:12:38] of Vice President Gibran Rakabumi
[00:12:40] Raka. Bono Tuasi Lalalahi revealed that the subpoena
[00:12:44] as a witness was received on November 3rd. During
[00:12:48] the initial examination today, Bonotua presented the results
[00:12:51] of his research related to the diploma of the 7th President of the Republic of Indonesia, Joko
[00:12:55] Widodo, and Vice President Gibran Raka Bumiraka, which has been conducted since
[00:12:58] 2022. Lalutua also
[00:13:02] are hoped to be material for the investigators to delve into. Previously,
[00:13:06] Badas Kimpol received a public complaint related to the alleged issue
[00:13:09] of the validity of Vice President Gibran's educational documents used in
[00:13:13] his nomination process in the 2024 presidential election.
[00:13:17] It's like a test, I
[00:13:19] usually never do that. I pursued that
[00:13:22] certificate, I asked for it in
[00:13:26] December, I sent a letter to the Ministry of Finance asking for the
[00:13:29] original certificate at the KPU Surakarta. They
[00:13:32] refused for two months, they refused and
[00:13:36] they gave it to me with one condition,
[00:13:40] I had to sign a stamped letter stating
[00:13:43] that if it was shown to me, I could not publish it to
[00:13:47] the public. In my opinion, this is a policy bribe, but
[00:13:51] I thought I didn't want to, so I went to court at
[00:13:54] KIP. When I went to KIP, they issued this
[00:13:58] which I will also report to the police, that they already have
[00:14:01] mens rea to hide this certificate. They issued a
[00:14:04] PPID regulation stating that the information I requested was
[00:14:08] exempted or confidential. The Chairman of Ambus Maneeri, Harry
[00:14:11] Susanto, was sentenced to 5 years in prison in a bribery case related to the management
[00:14:15] of nickel mining, and the Panel of Judges of the Jakarta
[00:14:19] Corruption Court also imposed a fine of Rp300 million and the obligation to pay restitution
[00:14:23] of 3.
[00:14:55] If he fails to pay the restitution, Harry faces an additional prison sentence
[00:14:58] of 3 years. Previously, the public prosecutor
[00:15:01] demanded Harry Susanto be sentenced to 5 years and 6 months in prison
[00:15:05] and pay restitution
[00:15:07] of 4.190
[00:15:09] million.
[00:15:15] that when we punish someone, the law
[00:15:19] must be clear, where does the law come from, right?
[00:15:22] Where is the source? So we
[00:15:26] have all heard
[00:15:29] was decided about giving gifts or promises,
[00:15:32] it is clear that it is not far
[00:15:35] and many things are not in accordance with the facts of the trial, many things are not in accordance
[00:15:39] with the testimonies of witnesses at the trial and at the beginning
[00:15:43] of the reading of the verdict, we saw that it was more
[00:15:46] inclined to refer to the indictment
[00:15:49] from the public prosecutor. Sejen
[00:15:53] Patregrin Rasungiono assesses that the illegal wiretapping case against President Prabowo
[00:15:57] Subianto, allegedly carried out by former National Police Chief General Pol. Listo Sikit
[00:16:00] Prabowo, is described as a form of insubordination leading
[00:16:04] to an act of treason against the president. Therefore, Mr. Tegrind hopes
[00:16:08] that the National Police Headquarters can thoroughly investigate the case and uncover
[00:16:23] occasions when holding a press conference at the Aceh Tsunami Museum
[00:16:27] in Banda Aceh City on Wednesday, November 4, 2026, Coordinating Minister for
[00:16:30] Political, Legal, and Security Affairs, Yuszah Mahendra, emphasized
[00:16:34] that the handling of the alleged illegal wiretapping case against the president.
[00:17:07] information and electronic transactions or ITE
[00:17:11] and indeed, an investigation must be carried out. This is not just
[00:17:14] a mere wiretapping,
[00:17:18] but it must also be analyzed and
[00:17:20] facts must be found, whether they exist or not. And now, as I
[00:17:24] said earlier, there is indeed initial evidence leading
[00:17:28] to actions, and Mr. President said that strict
[00:17:31] law enforcement must be carried out
[00:17:35] until facts and evidence
[00:17:37] are found that this is not just wiretapping, but
[00:17:41] leads to
[00:17:43] However, the Secretary General of the Gerindra Party, who is also the Coordinating Minister for Human Development and Cultural Affairs in the
[00:17:47] White Cabinet, Sugiono, affirmed that the alleged illegal wiretapping
[00:17:51] against President Prabowo, allegedly carried out by former National Police Chief General
[00:17:54] Listio Sikit Prabowo and two other high-ranking Polri officers,
[00:17:58] is referred to as a form of insubordination
[00:18:01] leading to an act of treason against
[00:18:04] the president.
[00:18:07] is
[00:18:18] a
[00:18:19] form
[00:18:23] of subordination,
[00:18:29] subordination, so it could be
[00:18:32] that the motives
[00:18:35] are hostile towards
[00:18:37] the president.
[00:18:40] And once again, we express our appreciation
[00:18:42] to the police and their ranks
[00:18:46] for carrying out
[00:18:48] this process, and of course, we
[00:18:51] respect
[00:18:55] the legal process that is underway.
[00:18:57] Constitutional law expert Bargarito Kamis asserted that
[00:19:03] carried out by General Listio against President Prabowo, who
[00:19:06] is none other than his superior, can be considered an unprofessional
[00:19:10] act as a law enforcement officer.
[00:19:14] What needs to be truly understood
[00:19:17] now with this wiretapping, and we regret
[00:19:21] that the police chief tapped
[00:19:25] the president, who is none other than his constitutional
[00:19:28] superior, right? That is
[00:19:31] truly something that cannot be
[00:19:34] accepted. That's one. The second
[00:19:38] thing is this.
[00:19:43] Please, brother, what did he
[00:19:45] do with the data?
[00:19:47] Sigit tapped the president,
[00:19:51] what did he do with the data he got?
[00:19:52] It could be,
[00:19:55] what did he do to the president? Right?
[00:19:58] blah blah blah and all that,
[00:20:01] right? And that could cause
[00:20:04] the president to not have the authority to take
[00:20:08] legal action, for example, if he
[00:20:11] after getting that,
[00:20:14] then pressured the president, although
[00:20:18] as far as I see,
[00:20:21] it seems that
[00:20:24] concretely, it is not yet
[00:20:27] visible that he has directly pressured the president.
[00:20:31] The government urges the public to remain
[00:20:34] calm and not be influenced by unverified
[00:20:37] information and ensures that the handling of the case
[00:20:41] continues at the National Police Headquarters and legal steps will be taken
[00:20:45] firmly in accordance with the provisions of
[00:20:47] the prevailing laws and regulations. From Banda Aceh and
[00:20:51] Jakarta, Metro TV News Team.
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[00:29:41] to present the essence of information in the headline
[00:29:44] news. Soon prime time news
[00:29:48] with Iqbal Himawan.
[00:30:15] Presented
[00:30:16] by
[00:30:21] the arrest of
[00:30:24] several police officers related to the
[00:30:28] wiretapping case that we are currently handling
[00:30:33] and this
[00:30:35] of course
[00:30:38] needs to be a lesson for all of us
[00:30:40] and
[00:30:43] we want the police to remain solid
[00:30:47] and remain a support
[00:30:49] for the community and we are confident that
[00:30:53] currently the police are very solid and
[00:30:57] of course for all members throughout.