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[00:00:13] The MI 17 helicopter that was on duty in the forest and land fire
[00:00:17] suppression operation or Karhutla in Kalimantan crashed. Three
[00:00:20] Indonesian Army soldiers died in this
[00:00:23] incident. The three soldiers were LED call CPN
[00:00:27] Anumerta, Dudi Firmanceah, Captain.
[00:00:35] A sad atmosphere surrounded the release and repatriation of two bodies to their
[00:00:39] hometowns. The release was attended by the Governor of Central
[00:00:42] Kalimantan, the Military Commander, and the Police Chief as a form of
[00:00:45] last respect and appreciation for their dedication in the Karhutla
[00:00:48] firefighting mission. Taken to
[00:00:51] Semarang, then continued again when
[00:00:54] there was permission, that major was taken to Bandung, taken to
[00:00:58] Bandung, dismayed in Bandung.
[00:01:02] This wiretapping law is
[00:01:46] "Let's all help, let's all
[00:01:50] support our brothers and sisters who are carrying out
[00:01:53] their duties in the context of forest and land fire suppression,
[00:01:57] don't let there be any more burning, because..."
[00:02:00] On the one hand, our brothers and sisters are fighting to fight the fire, but on the other hand,
[00:02:03] if our brothers and sisters are still trying to burn,
[00:02:07] how long will this not be resolved? Let's
[00:02:10] work together so that our children can go to school
[00:02:14] well, the economy can
[00:02:17] also run well, not hindered by fire, smoke,
[00:02:21] and there will be no more of our brothers and sisters suffering from ARI.
[00:02:24] Previously, it was reported that on November 4, the helicopter with
[00:02:28] registration number HA. 5235 crashed
[00:02:32] while taking water in the waters of Sungai Perlu Village, Danau
[00:02:35] Sembuluh District, Seruyan Regency for water bombing purposes.
[00:02:39] The flight was part of the Karkutla firefighting operation mission in the
[00:02:43] Tanjung Putin National Park area from Seruyan, Central
[00:02:46] Kalimantan, Ahmad Dianor Metro
[00:02:50] gang TV. Viewers, thick yellow haze
[00:02:53] due to land and forest burning again enveloped the city of
[00:02:56] Palangkaraya, Central Kalimantan. Residents are worried about the condition
[00:03:00] of the thick smoke because it is very disturbing
[00:03:02] to their health.
[00:03:08] Thick yellow haze suddenly re-occurred in
[00:03:11] the city of Palangkaraya, Central Kalimantan. Data from
[00:03:15] there would be nothing the Karhutla City of Palangkaraya dashboard shows
[00:03:17] an air quality index of 601, which means
[00:03:21] that the air in Palangkaraya is dangerous. Hotspots in
[00:03:24] the city of Palangkaraya increased to 12 hotspots
[00:03:28] spread across Rakumpit and Bukit Batu sub-districts, which
[00:03:32] previously only had 10 hotspots. Meanwhile, for the Central
[00:03:35] Kalimantan Province, the number of hotspots reached
[00:03:38] 886
[00:03:41] points. A number of residents claimed to be worried again because since October 25 until
[00:03:44] November 5, the thick haze today is the
[00:03:48] worst.
[00:03:52] It's getting thicker today, sir. Oh, it looks very
[00:03:55] bad again, like at the
[00:03:58] end of October. Well, this November, smoke again
[00:04:02] enveloped the city of Palangkaraya, almost
[00:04:05] partly and entirely enveloped by it.
[00:04:08] Viewers, Mount Semeru in Lumajang, East Java
[00:04:13] is by looking revealing what erupted again on Thursday afternoon. Besides the eruption, Mount Semeru also emitted hot
[00:04:17] avalanche clouds as far as
[00:04:22] right? Okay, Mr. Suparji, so far, the 4 km.
[00:04:24] This is when Mount Semeru experienced an eruption on Thursday afternoon.
[00:04:28] Besides the eruption, the highest volcano on Java Island also
[00:04:32] experienced hot cloud avalanches with a sliding distance
[00:04:35] of 3 to 4
[00:04:39] If that is if with the deleted km from the peak. Besides being observed visually, the eruption in the form of explosions and hot
[00:04:42] cloud avalanches was also recorded on the PVMBG seismograph at
[00:04:46] the observation post with a maximum amplitude of 22
[00:04:49] mm. Although there have been
[00:04:52] into other acts no reports of impact, BNPB
[00:04:54] a platform that Lumajang officers urged residents to increase
[00:04:57] interception, which their vigilance because the status of Mount Semeru is still at
[00:05:00] level 3 or alert. Residents are prohibited from carrying
[00:05:03] out activities within a 5 km radius from the peak and 13
[00:05:07] km along the Besukkobokan
[00:05:10] River flow area.
[00:05:15] West to Southeast with to
[00:05:17] South. For the readiness of
[00:05:20] BBD itself, we also monitor those in
[00:05:24] the Orombo post and or in
[00:05:26] Jurk. For the appeal to residents,
[00:05:30] especially to the miners, to the miners
[00:05:33] in the Semeru river basin, please be able
[00:05:37] to know and secondly,
[00:05:41] especially to
[00:05:50] the Washington political map, the information is coming
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[00:06:36] Welcome back to Prime Time News. Viewers, six members of a specialized
[00:06:40] robbery and motorcycle theft gang using firearms
[00:06:42] were arrested by the Cianjur Police Sat Reskrim. In fact, two perpetrators who
[00:06:46] resisted were given hot lead.
[00:07:01] The Cianjur Police Sat Reskrim along with the Pacek Police Reskrim Unit arrested
[00:07:04] six members of a specialized motorcycle theft and robbery gang that
[00:07:08] operated across regions in West Java. During the arrest, the perpetrators
[00:07:11] resisted by pointing firearms at officers.
[00:07:15] Police then took firm and measured action. This gang
[00:07:19] is suspected to have operated in 120 locations with
[00:07:22] operational areas ranging from Cianjur, Sukabumi,
[00:07:25] Purwakarta, Cimahi to Bogor. This robbery
[00:07:29] gang originated from East Lampung, Cianjur, and Sukabumi,
[00:07:33] each with their own roles. This gang started operating in
[00:07:36] 2025, targeting vehicles parked on
[00:07:39] the roadside by damaging the ignition key.
[00:07:53] Cianjur successfully uncovered a specialized motorcycle
[00:07:55] theft and
[00:07:59] violent theft
[00:08:02] that is suspected to have operated across regions in West Java
[00:08:06] since 2025.
[00:08:09] In this disclosure, six suspects were
[00:08:13] successfully arrested, while five others are on
[00:08:17] the wanted list or DPO.
[00:08:20] Viewers, the Democratic Party's landslide victory in the US mid-term
[00:08:23] elections has flipped the political map of Washington by controlling the House
[00:08:27] of Representatives and the Senate. President Donald Trump's actions in the remaining two
[00:08:30] years of his term are sure to hit a dead end, even
[00:08:34] overshadowed by the issue
[00:08:36] of impeachment.
[00:08:40] The Democratic Party achieved a significant victory in the mid-term elections by
[00:08:44] securing 245 seats in the House of Representatives and
[00:08:47] 54 seats in the Senate. The Democratic
[00:08:50] dominance in both houses of Congress threatens Trump to become a lame-duck
[00:08:54] president. Besides finding it difficult to pass laws and clear
[00:08:58] debts, Democrats are expected to use their majority authority
[00:09:02] to issue subpoenas to investigate various
[00:09:05] alleged Trump violations. Although the impeachment issue
[00:09:08] has re-emerged, Trump dismissed these concerns and assessed
[00:09:12] that the Democrats' actions would only backfire on themselves.
[00:09:32] The new US Congress, dominated by the Democratic Party, is scheduled to begin
[00:09:36] its duties on January 3, 2027. Trump
[00:09:39] must now prepare to face the remaining two years of his presidency under
[00:09:42] the shadow of political pressure and obstacles
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[00:09:48] Soon, viewers, while crying before the Judge Panel, former Deputy
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[00:10:43] National Police Chief General Suyudi Ario Seto stated that the handling of the
[00:10:47] illegal wiretapping case is purely a law enforcement process and is not
[00:10:50] related to competition or specific interests within the institution.
[00:10:53] He also asked all ranks to remain focused on maintaining
[00:10:57] public security
[00:10:58] and order.
[00:11:02] The arrest of several police officers
[00:11:05] related to the wiretapping
[00:11:08] case that we are currently
[00:11:11] handling
[00:11:13] and this
[00:11:15] of course
[00:11:18] needs to be a lesson for all of
[00:11:20] us
[00:11:23] and we want... the police to remain
[00:11:27] solid, to remain a
[00:11:29] pillar for the community and we
[00:11:33] are confident that the police are very
[00:11:37] solid and of course for all
[00:11:40] members throughout Indonesia to continue to work
[00:11:44] well, carry out their duties to maintain
[00:11:47] public security and order, always with the community in accordance with our
[00:11:50] slogan, our collective slogan, which is the police with
[00:11:53] the community and we assure you that all of this
[00:11:57] is purely a form of law enforcement, there is no
[00:12:00] connection with
[00:12:03] competition or anything else but this is purely
[00:12:07] for the good of the police institution that we
[00:12:10] love in order to provide service and protection to
[00:12:14] the community. Even ordinary citizens, even the president can be wiretapped.
[00:12:18] This has become a public concern following the exposure of the wiretapping
[00:12:21] scandal against the president and
[00:12:25] political figures, allegedly carried out by former
[00:12:28] National Police Chief General Listo Sigit Prabowo.
[00:12:32] Moreover, the system used by Lims is a system commonly used
[00:12:36] by law enforcement officials
[00:12:37] to investigate legal cases.
[00:12:44] From my intelligence,
[00:12:46] there is
[00:12:48] this from intelligence in the police,
[00:12:51] there is from intelligence in
[00:12:55] This is what we have, perhaps the beginning of this
[00:12:58] wiretapping problem started there, it
[00:13:01] could be. We are waiting for the proof
[00:13:03] of this.
[00:13:08] The uncovering of the intelligence scandal targeting the president and political
[00:13:11] party figures reminded the public of Joko Widodo's statement in
[00:13:15] September 2023. At that time,
[00:13:19] Jokowi, who was still president, admitted to having complete data on the direction
[00:13:22] of political parties from intelligence information, while reminding
[00:13:26] volunteers not to choose the wrong leader in the 2024
[00:13:29] presidential election. I
[00:13:32] know what the inside of a party is like,
[00:13:36] I know
[00:13:39] what parties
[00:13:41] are like,
[00:13:43] I know where they want to go, I also
[00:13:46] understand. The information I receive
[00:13:50] is complete.
[00:13:52] From my intelligence, there is. There is
[00:13:55] a pin, from intelligence in the police, there is
[00:13:59] big, from intelligence in the technical side,
[00:14:03] I have BAIS
[00:14:06] and information outside of that.
[00:14:10] Numbers, data, surveys, everything
[00:14:14] is there. So what is the motive behind the
[00:14:18] wiretapping scandal allegedly committed by former police chief, Listo,
[00:14:21] Sigit Prabowo and two other police officers?
[00:14:25] There is a political motive behind this, there is a political
[00:14:28] motive that must be proven in
[00:14:32] the investigation and I am not convinced that this
[00:14:36] wiretapping only started in 2025.
[00:14:38] Perhaps it has been happening before that, because
[00:14:42] there was an event in 2023
[00:14:45] when President Jokowi at that time firmly said
[00:14:49] "I know what happened in political
[00:14:52] parties according to intelligence reports." According to
[00:14:55] the Police, perhaps the beginning of this
[00:14:59] wiretapping problem started there. The platform
[00:15:02] allegedly used by the perpetrators to wiretap the president and
[00:15:06] politicians is Lims, a platform for legal
[00:15:09] wiretapping that should be used in the context of law enforcement,
[00:15:13] including by the Police.
[00:15:15] So Lims is actually
[00:15:19] is used for lawful is placed
[00:15:23] in the apartment
[00:15:25] of the system operator, where in that system
[00:15:29] operator, it will be connected to
[00:15:32] each monitoring center of law enforcement,
[00:15:35] one of which is the police. Well, what does
[00:15:39] Lims function for? It functions to
[00:15:42] run the flow of legal wiretapping,
[00:15:46] which is lawful interception. Well, this lawful interception
[00:15:49] begins with
[00:15:51] a request for permission from the court
[00:15:55] to wiretap a certain target. Well, in the court's
[00:15:58] permission letter, the target number,
[00:16:01] how long it will be wiretapped, and then
[00:16:05] what
[00:16:37] is expected in the context not too broad,
[00:16:40] all the contents of our smartphone, no, but only
[00:16:44] data that passes through the GSM network
[00:16:47] and also data that passes
[00:16:51] through 4G but not completely like the
[00:16:54] wiretapping on the phone directly using spyware.
[00:16:58] Currently, where exactly the wiretapping data was given by
[00:17:02] Listo Sigit is still unknown. What is clear is that this case is being pushed
[00:17:06] for transparency because anyone can be
[00:17:09] a victim. This is the head of state, the head of state,
[00:17:12] then there are also ministers
[00:17:16] then
[00:17:18] it is also reported that there are party leaders,
[00:17:22] including community organization leaders. This
[00:17:25] is of course from what do you call it, this intention
[00:17:29] also
[00:17:32] makes us also wonder,
[00:17:36] as the media friends asked, what is the purpose
[00:17:40] of this? But in full and detail,
[00:17:43] we will wait for the investigation process. Metro TV
[00:17:46] news team.
[00:17:49] Viewers, the case of illegal wiretapping and access against President
[00:17:53] Prabowo continues and has already named three suspects, including former
[00:17:57] Police Chief, Listo Sikit Prabowo. However, the question
[00:18:00] is why this wiretapping could happen and what are its implications? Given
[00:18:04] that the people being wiretapped are presidents and important figures
[00:18:08] in this country, then where is the source of this wiretapping order?
[00:18:11] We will discuss it with Mr.
[00:18:23] wiretapping, investigators are also investigating alleged deletion
[00:18:27] of wiretapping records. What are the implications
[00:18:30] if this is proven
[00:18:31] to have occurred? Yes,
[00:18:35] that... With the
[00:18:39] deletion of data,
[00:18:41] it indicates a bad intention,
[00:18:45] right? If it hadn't
[00:18:48] been deleted, then
[00:18:52] to worry about regarding the results
[00:18:56] of the wiretap, you know. So with the
[00:18:59] deletion of data just now,
[00:19:01] it indicates a malicious motive
[00:19:05] in the context of wiretapping.
[00:19:08] Because it is shown that the data
[00:19:11] was deleted, if, for example,
[00:19:15] the wiretapping was in the context of providing
[00:19:18] protection, security to the person concerned
[00:19:22] or preventing other criminal
[00:19:24] elements, then the data
[00:19:27] should be something that must be preserved,
[00:19:31] something that can be used or then can
[00:19:34] be utilized. So this becomes a clue.
[00:19:38] That there is a malicious motive, there is a bad motive
[00:19:41] in the context of the wiretapping, however,
[00:19:44] investigators should not stop
[00:19:47] then
[00:19:50] is in the wiretap results, right? Don't
[00:19:53] stop because the wiretap was already
[00:19:57] deleted, it can be done with other
[00:20:01] methods, for example with the operator
[00:20:04] of the phone used or with... other
[00:20:07] tracking, right? Now, this is what I'm worried
[00:20:11] about, that it's as
[00:20:15] wiretap results, it then stops
[00:20:18] or then channels this case from being
[00:20:21] fully resolved, you know. So we really hope
[00:20:25] that the investigation process for this
[00:20:28] case will be thoroughly completed,
[00:20:31] what was the motive, what was done, and
[00:20:35] what were the results of the wiretap,
[00:20:38] and don't then localize
[00:20:41] it by saying that the wiretap
[00:20:44] results have been deleted, you know. I think
[00:20:47] this is an anti-climax
[00:20:50] and raises a concern in the future that
[00:20:54] people will easily cause public
[00:20:57] confusion regarding law enforcement. The law enforcement
[00:21:01] process is complete, it doesn't just
[00:21:03] stop because it's already deleted,
[00:21:07] finally it doesn't trace the acquisition of the
[00:21:11] data, the utilization of that data, because if that happens,
[00:21:14] once again I say, then the law enforcement
[00:21:17] process will not be completed, including in this wiretapping
[00:21:21] case, because once again, this wiretapping
[00:21:25] is very serious because of what? Because
[00:21:29] in the context of information gathering and information gathering
[00:21:33] is part of the initial act in the context
[00:21:37] of treason, right? And the person being wiretapped
[00:21:40] is the head of state, this further justifies
[00:21:43] that there is an element of treason, right? Especially
[00:21:46] when the perpetrators are also state apparatus.
[00:21:50] It's just a matter of how to construct the motivation
[00:21:53] behind this wiretapping. Is the motivation behind this wiretapping
[00:21:57] to attack, overthrow the government, or attack
[00:22:01] the head of state? If that happens, and the element
[00:22:04] of treason is fulfilled, then this motive needs
[00:22:08] to be investigated in depth, and the investigation of the
[00:22:11] motive cannot only rely on the parties being questioned,
[00:22:14] on the suspects, because they might not admit
[00:22:18] to telling the true motive, but the discovery
[00:22:21] of this motive can be done
[00:22:24] from the results of the wiretap, for example,
[00:22:28] if this wiretap was done at certain times
[00:22:32] when discussing, for example, national security or discussing
[00:22:36] government policy, that can then be used for
[00:22:39] analysis. Oh, it turns out the wiretap was only
[00:22:42] on certain segments related to, for example,
[00:22:45] certain policies and perhaps this will be used
[00:22:48] to do certain things and so on. So once
[00:22:51] again, to be able to find the motive
[00:22:55] of the wiretap, one of them is to look
[00:22:58] at the process and results of the wiretap. So
[00:23:01] if we don't get the wiretap results, it's difficult
[00:23:05] to find the motive of the wiretap. Okay, Mr. Suparji, in terms
[00:23:08] of criminal law, does unauthorized wiretapping and
[00:23:12] treason have the same
[00:23:14] or different legal constructions?
[00:23:16] There is a similarity, yes, a similarity.
[00:23:20] There is a comparison or difference or a subsequent
[00:23:23] act, right? The similarity
[00:23:26] is that in this context, wiretapping
[00:23:30] is carried out against the head of state,
[00:23:33] which fulfills the element of treason, right?
[00:23:37] Then in the context of treason, there are
[00:23:40] initial acts that have been committed. Initial acts
[00:23:44] that have been committed are information gathering. This wiretapping
[00:23:47] is part of information gathering. Now, we need
[00:23:51] to look at the next element, the
[00:23:54] intention and purpose, right? Yes, the intention,
[00:23:58] the intention is indeed to carry out wiretapping,
[00:24:01] and the purpose is, for example, to attack the head of state
[00:24:05] or the government. So, this wiretapping is
[00:24:08] part, part of the element of treason,
[00:24:10] but it needs to be followed up in the
[00:24:13] context of its motive, in the context of its purpose, in the context
[00:24:17] of its subsequent actions, and in the
[00:24:21] context of the wiretap results. So we cannot immediately
[00:24:24] say that this wiretapping is treason,
[00:24:28] but it needs to be supported by other
[00:24:31] evidence to fulfill the element of treason. The element of treason
[00:24:35] is related to attacking, overthrowing, making
[00:24:38] the head of state not free, for example, or then
[00:24:42] overthrowing a legitimate government illegally, right?
[00:24:45] Or then in the context of, for example,
[00:24:48] separating from the government of the Unitary
[00:24:51] State of Indonesia and so on. So this
[00:24:54] needs to be investigated in depth to find out
[00:24:58] whether this is treason or not. This
[00:25:03] at what was wiretapped, what were the wiretap
[00:25:07] results, and where the wiretap was channeled,
[00:25:12] articles applied by law enforcement officials against the suspects still focus
[00:25:16] on cyber crime and illegal wiretapping, not on the
[00:25:19] crime of overthrowing the government. What is your response?
[00:25:23] In my opinion, this is still the beginning,
[00:25:26] further investigation is needed.
[00:25:29] done, I think the elements I mentioned earlier have
[00:25:32] been fulfilled, but the public, I think, is waiting.
[00:25:36] They are waiting for the need
[00:25:39] for further investigation
[00:25:42] committed to fulfill the elements of other criminal
[00:25:46] offenses. So in my opinion, we
[00:25:49] are. We are really looking forward
[00:25:53] to the seriousness of the investigators
[00:25:57] to investigate the fulfillment of the elements of other
[00:26:00] criminal offenses and not then
[00:26:03] stop with the argument that the data has
[00:26:07] been deleted, because indeed, when the data
[00:26:10] has been deleted, the consequences are not fulfilled,
[00:26:14] right? Finally, the formal delict is fulfilled, yes, just
[00:26:17] illegal wiretapping, while in the context of treason,
[00:26:21] there needs to be material evidence about the elements
[00:26:25] of treason, and that can be found by looking
[00:26:29] at the results of the wiretap. So once again, the public
[00:26:33] or I personally, so that this creates a deterrent
[00:26:36] effect and a good lesson in the future, it is necessary
[00:26:40] to deepen the fulfillment of other elements. Okay, Mr. Subarji, even ordinary
[00:26:43] citizens, even the president, can be wiretapped. This has become a public concern
[00:26:47] following the exposure of this wiretapping scandal. How far can
[00:26:50] the law protect citizens,
[00:26:53] sir? Yes, this becomes important for the House
[00:26:56] of Representatives and the government to immediately
[00:27:00] pass a law on wiretapping, right?
[00:27:05] part of the forced measures regulated in the Criminal
[00:27:08] Procedure Code, and its rules allow wiretapping for law
[00:27:12] enforcement purposes, but each institution,
[00:27:16] the KPK, the police, and the prosecution, each has its own
[00:27:20] sectoral wiretapping mechanism, including intelligence
[00:27:23] and so on. So in my opinion, in order
[00:27:26] to provide protection to the public, this wiretapping
[00:27:30] regulation must be strictly enforced
[00:27:33] so that it is clearer, more certain, and more
[00:27:37] decisive, right? So that the public is protected,
[00:27:40] because it is truly simple that even the president
[00:27:44] can be wiretapped, let alone ordinary citizens. And when
[00:27:47] ordinary citizens are wiretapped, their human rights,
[00:27:50] privacy, and so on are not protected. So
[00:27:54] of course, it has become the world's spotlight , it has become the international
[00:27:58] public's spotlight, the president is so weak in privacy protection
[00:28:01] . His protection of his mandate
[00:28:04] can be so low, you know, yes, Mr.
[00:28:07] Supaji, we will wait together to see how the income obtained by the investigators
[00:28:11] related to this illegal wiretapping case. Thank you, Mr.
[00:28:14] Suparji Ahmad for talking with us tonight in Prime Time
[00:28:18] News . Viewers, the Gerindra party suspects there is a
[00:28:22] big agenda and certain interests behind the wiretapping
[00:28:25] of President Prabowo. More information soon
[00:28:28] .
[00:28:36] Your time is important ,
[00:28:40] we understand , so this afternoon's information will be
[00:28:44] replayed . Metro Siang, coming
[00:28:48] soon
[00:28:48] .
[00:28:52] Journey every Sunday at 1:30
[00:28:54] PM
[00:29:11] . You are watching Hat Lanjut at 1 AM Western Indonesia Time with me
[00:29:14] Shadar . The 15th Nasdem Party
[00:29:18] National Symposium was held to encourage the strengthening of agrarian reform.
[00:29:22] This forum discussed land ownership inequality or agrarian
[00:29:25] conflict as well as strengthening legal certainty and justice for the
[00:29:29] community.
[00:29:32] This panel was held at Nasdem Tower Jakarta, a number of stakeholders
[00:29:35] discussed various challenges of agrarian reform, ranging from
[00:29:39] land ownership inequality to overlapping regulations.
[00:29:43] Chairman of Commission 2 of the DPRRI.