N1BOS — broadcast 20260807 033000 UTC 348 transcript segments Google Speech-to-Text API Automatic Transcription (Chirp) Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:00:00] gallery [00:00:00] of 1957, the annual event showcase in Ganian Art has seen [00:00:04] growing international interest. For [00:00:07] of [00:00:08] a of Denise, showcasing these stories today has been boosted by the digital [00:00:11] world. You have the opportunity to share what your work is [00:00:14] about, and I think that has something to do with [00:00:18] social media. Now there's access to [00:00:21] of the information, the stories carried in these [00:00:24] of objects that [00:00:25] of we are making as artists and that also gives them a lot more [00:00:30] of of value. [00:00:31] the numbers tell the same story with online sales making up nearly [00:00:35] fifth of all global art sales in 2024 according to an [00:00:38] art basel and [00:00:39] of UBA [00:00:40] of study. whether it's using digital tools to create art or using [00:00:44] digital [00:00:45] of platforms to share art, technology has created a new global canvas [00:00:49] for Ganean artists to use, and I think we have lot to do [00:00:52] still, we have so much to do, but we're getting [00:00:56] there slowly with all these opportunities. are now [00:01:00] coming in around us, step by step, we'll get there and then we'll [00:01:04] see the value of African arts and [00:01:07] of the importance of it as [00:01:08] well. [00:01:12] when it comes to using digital [00:01:13] in tools and education as a great equalizer across Africa, Fred [00:01:17] Swanika is all in. The Ghanayan born entrepreneur opened the doors [00:01:21] to the African Leadership Academy in South Africa in 2008, training [00:01:25] high school students to prepare them for pathway to [00:01:29] of university. He then went to establish the African Leadership university in [00:01:33] of Mauritius in 2015. But with technology ever [00:01:36] evolving, Swanika says his ambition turned to ensuring the continent's next [00:01:40] generation of talent knew how to build their [00:01:43] of own tech. Today that talent he's helped nurture drives his [00:01:47] latest [00:01:48] in venture, an AI company with global clients called Sand [00:01:50] Technologies. CNN's Nick Watt set down with him to talk about [00:01:54] Africa's tech talent [00:01:55] of and why Africa will be the region to solve the world's [00:01:58] problems. [00:02:02] is there a different approach from the companies [00:02:06] and the engineers and the coders in Africa, different approach [00:02:10] than we might [00:02:11] a see of in Silicon Valley in terms [00:02:12] of the kind of problems they try and tackle. yes, because [00:02:15] you see when when you look at the engineers that we're developing in [00:02:18] Africa, um, firstly we're training the very different way, [00:02:21] so um, we believe [00:02:24] of that [00:02:24] of technology is means to an end, it's not the end itself, right? i want to use AI [00:02:28] to fix healthcare, i want to use AI. our [00:02:30] of cities [00:02:31] to for [00:02:32] of fix education, so that is what drives this talent, they want to [00:02:36] of solve problems for society, and so the [00:02:40] ethos is quite different, what we're doing in Africa is start first with the problems [00:02:43] and then look at [00:02:45] of how the technology can solve it, [00:02:47] of and your engineers are based where, so I've got about 350 [00:02:51] engineers and about 300 are based in Africa, about 100 phds and data [00:02:55] scientists who build these complicated artificial intelligence [00:02:58] models that... that [00:03:00] of are helping to run the real [00:03:01] world. [00:03:05] i want to talk about health for a bit, so [00:03:07] again, what was the problem and [00:03:11] the big problem that we saw in africa, and by the way, the same problem that we're solving exists in rural [00:03:15] America in many [00:03:16] of the other states in the US. um, there's a shortage of [00:03:19] doctors, so the average doctor patient ratio in [00:03:22] Africa is 8000 patients to one doctor, to one doctor, in the west, [00:03:26] it's about 300 to 400, 300 patients per doctor, so the problem we saw. how do you [00:03:30] bring world class healthcare when you don't have enough [00:03:36] of of doctors to to what's going [00:03:37] de to be 40% of the world's population so um we have developed something called the health operating system and it has [00:03:41] three components the first component [00:03:43] of is digitizing health infrastructure so we're [00:03:47] going into different countries in Africa we're actually working right now in 18 countries on the [00:03:50] continent to uh first digitize the infrastructure once [00:03:54] you have the data streaming from that the second part of [00:03:56] it is we then augment healthcare [00:03:59] of professionals with [00:04:00] of intelligence, so [00:04:01] of you can take a community healthcare worker or nurse, which are much more abundant than [00:04:05] doctors, [00:04:05] of yeah, of and give them all sorts of AI [00:04:07] of tools that allow them to do most [00:04:08] of of his care things that before, maybe only doctor would have been able to do. once you've connected the [00:04:12] facilities and you've you augmented healthcare professional, [00:04:16] you can have all this data that's coming, and that's now goes into [00:04:20] what we call the health intelligence center, which we are supporting different ministries of health and [00:04:24] africa to to to develop, and this health intelligence center [00:04:27] aggregates data from the entire system, all the thousands of hospitals [00:04:31] and clinics in the [00:04:33] me country, so you can start to now see across the system, where [00:04:37] should you allocate your limited resources, if I only have so much money, where should i [00:04:41] build my clinics, where should i send my supply chain, my pharmaceutical, so you can [00:04:44] now allocate the much better precision, your resources, you can make better [00:04:48] decisions, you can predict pandemics, you know how to [00:04:52] what kind of training to do for your health work force and so forth, [00:04:56] of and shifts the whole healthcare system from being reactive and expensive to... more predictive [00:05:00] and [00:05:01] in preventive, of of [00:05:04] and because there's a need for this in Africa, there is the [00:05:08] environment in which you can develop and test it and you... [00:05:12] exactly, one the things i always say is that constraints drives innovation, so in Africa we've got real [00:05:16] serious problems and those constraints is forcing us to leverage some these these [00:05:20] technologies, and so AI is if [00:05:23] we play our cards right as a continent will allow us [00:05:27] to completely leap frog development and [00:05:31] build new, in fact the model of education that we've [00:05:34] developed with [00:05:35] the alx where we are training people who are able to [00:05:39] compete with stanford graduats and graduats a... [00:06:12] alone because it's it's like any tool, [00:06:16] you can use knife to prepare a great meal, but it can also be a dangerous [00:06:20] tool can be used to kill someone, right? it all depends on the intention [00:06:24] behind it, and so the the the values that [00:06:28] underly that tool will determine whether it's inclusive or exclusive, [00:06:32] so access to markets, access to education, access to health, all these [00:06:35] things um can be enabled by [00:06:38] technology and it can allow you to leap frog. [00:06:42] catch up and develop faster, but it needs to be guided by the [00:06:46] right vision, the right values. when we come back, CNN's [00:06:50] Nick Watch, continues the conversation with Sant Technology CEO and [00:06:54] African Leadership Group founder Fred [00:06:56] Swanika. [00:07:03] Welcome back. For Fred Swanika, the answer is clear. Armed with the [00:07:06] world's youngest population, Africa has what it takes to be at [00:07:10] the forefront of developing. tech solutions for the world's [00:07:14] biggest problems. join us as we head back into that [00:07:17] conversation to hear what he says is needed to ensure that that [00:07:21] potential continues to be [00:07:23] nurtured. [00:07:27] obviously in this day and age [00:07:29] you know we're worried about you particularly with AI but just with tech of [00:07:32] various marginalized communities being left [00:07:36] behind. is [00:07:37] there a concern that a global scale that if Africa doesn't keep up with this [00:07:41] Africa will get left behind? Yes, there is, [00:07:43] I think I think very much in terms the opportunity that we have with [00:07:47] artificial intelligence, so um, when you [00:07:51] think about development, [00:07:54] historically, development has been measured by GDP per capital. [00:07:58] Development ultimately is about quality of life. Why do we want to develop? We want [00:08:02] better healthcare, we want education, enough [00:08:06] food, security, and so one way to [00:08:10] develop is to try and catch up with the GDP capital. the rest the world, [00:08:13] but africa $2,300 year talking and the west [00:08:17] about we're $80,000 year, the west continues to grow, it will take us 100 [00:08:21] years, very difficult to catch up. another way to develop is to say, [00:08:25] i'm actually going to reduce the cost of getting good [00:08:29] education and healthcare and so forth to such that it fits within my [00:08:33] GDP per right, right, right? so for example, that school that we bought [00:08:37] in silicon valley, the engineer, the graduates [00:08:41] were earning more than Stanford. [00:09:13] year, but I can send my three children to a Stanford quality [00:09:17] education. We can leverage AI to radically reduce the [00:09:20] cost the things that you would have wanted your high GDP per capital, so we can [00:09:24] therefore completely redefine what it means to be developed [00:09:28] society. [00:09:33] You must have a certain amount of leakage in terms of your talent in [00:09:36] Africa moving to the US or the UK, absolutely [00:09:40] to try and earn more money for themselves. Right, how do you deal with that? [00:09:44] I encourage it, let tell you why, brain drain [00:09:48] is only a problem when you're training talent at low scale, and you're training enough people [00:09:51] exactly, we're doing this scale, so like I said, [00:09:55] 2024 we train 700 thousand people, our goal is to train th to 5 million [00:09:59] people in the next decade, so what Africa has, [00:10:02] that no one else has is young [00:10:04] people. [00:10:08] So just in terms the practicalities, in terms of skate. [00:10:25] we can use all these AI techniques, but if I don't even [00:10:27] have um basic electricity to switch on my [00:10:31] device or access the internet and all the [00:10:35] of you, it's going to be, [00:10:39] challenge, so the second challenge I would say [00:10:41] is um access to capital [00:10:45] right, as you know Africa [00:10:48] gets less than 3% the world's benture capital [00:10:51] funding, we're only 3% the world's GDP so... [00:10:55] need a massive investment into this talent [00:10:58] pool and into this ecosystem to actually catalyze the [00:11:02] entrepreneurs, the innovators who can solve many the Africa's and many the world's problems. the third [00:11:06] thing that's a challenge is access to markets, because any entrepreneur and [00:11:10] innovation [00:11:11] that is born ultimately needs a market to sell it into [00:11:14] right, and he start and so the the market [00:11:18] problems are toofold, each market in Africa is is too small, when [00:11:22] you aggregate africa's economy, are [00:11:25] the trillion dollars, but when you [00:11:27] look at each individual economy, there's 54 countries, so you have small markets, right, right, so [00:11:31] suddenly, one the reasons why the US works is one big [00:11:34] market, right, right, Africa should similarly, by breaking [00:11:38] down his barriers you can start to create one big market, which makes it attractive both for foreign [00:11:41] investors and local entrepreneurs to be able to to scale, [00:11:45] other aspect around access to markets is making it easier for African [00:11:49] entrepreneurs to access global markets so that they can tap into that [00:11:53] 97% the world's GDP. that is not enough, how does that happen? well, I [00:11:57] think digital is a great enable of that, because now as a, [00:12:01] someone who's making baskets or making movies in Africa [00:12:05] or any other kind of service, once you [00:12:08] digitize your distribution channels, you can sell on Instagram and [00:12:12] Facebook and all these different platforms now that if you look at what the [00:12:16] Nigerians have done with music, yeah, [00:12:18] I mean 10, 15 years ago uh [00:12:22] Nigerian musicians were earning... for [00:12:26] performance because they were trying to sell [00:12:29] locally, but when they went global, [00:12:32] you know, you see burner boy and whiskid selling out the O2 Arena or Madison Square Garden, [00:12:36] and you see with digital help, with digital help, right, they they [00:12:40] became global and famous because of YouTube and Instagram and all [00:12:44] these [00:12:44] things. [00:12:48] Is the attitude the rest the world towards Africa being [00:12:51] changed by access to... all [00:12:55] these African art forms, but also African innovation. In certain [00:12:59] ways, yes, but I think the rest the world still doesn't [00:13:03] understand Africa's potential. Yeah. Growing [00:13:06] up, um, I was brought up on [00:13:10] Hollywood, right, so I watched you, one the greatest exports that America has [00:13:13] had is its culture, and that came through film and music, and [00:13:17] so by being able to tell [00:13:18] our own story as a content, um, we will [00:13:22] be able to change how we are seeing. on our terms and [00:13:26] not let others write our [00:13:28] story. [00:13:37] whether it's international sports leagues like e-1, debuting in Nigeria or [00:13:41] the tiny island nation of Cape Verde looking to expand tourism [00:13:45] sustainably, digital tools are playing key role in both [00:13:48] education and outreach. Take a [00:13:51] look. [00:13:55] if you look at the structure of Legos State, about 16% the [00:13:58] land mass is made up of water and we have um the [00:14:02] water network that is capable of taking you any almost anywhere in [00:14:06] Lagos, despite this the usage was very very low, [00:14:10] then less [00:14:11] than 1%. Lagos, Nigeria is betting [00:14:14] big its waterways and big sports leagues like E1 [00:14:18] have brought in. There is a an amazing alignment [00:14:22] of vision, energy. Recent partnership with the electric boat [00:14:26] racing franchise brought its first ever race on the African continent [00:14:30] to Lagos this past October. [00:14:34] E1 goes beyond the sport and I think the [00:14:37] sport needs to play this kind of role which is [00:14:41] inspirational. This comes with thought [00:14:44] leadership, some concrete action on the [00:14:48] coastal area, [00:14:50] but the move to bring E1 to the shores of Africa goes far beyond [00:14:54] this one rate. It's a push that brings technology to the [00:14:57] forefront. There will be conversation with [00:15:00] local technology providers and university to understand if [00:15:04] we can fit their technologies in the future generation [00:15:08] of our race boats. They will be inspiration for [00:15:12] young students at high school level and university to [00:15:16] pursue science, technology, engineering studies that is [00:15:20] so important for the future the the [00:15:23] planets and the environment. and any possible [00:15:27] application, the league says they partnered with the state a [00:15:30] range of events highlighting stem and sustainability and an effort [00:15:34] to amplify their message of conservation and innovation. when it comes [00:15:38] to the waterways, they're hoping their moves create a ripple [00:15:42] effect. we want to show that [00:15:46] different water mobility is possible for the future. this will [00:15:49] bring developments, this will bring jobs, [00:15:52] innovation and will put [00:15:55] Lagos potentially in the map the place [00:15:59] to go, if you want to learn about the water mobility the [00:16:02] future. with more than [00:16:06] 20 million residents, Lagos's roads are often [00:16:09] congested despite several jetty terminals and almost 60 [00:16:12] major water routes across the state. Water [00:16:16] transports in Legos States with what Legos State has has the ability [00:16:20] and the capacity to remove 41% the traffic public [00:16:24] to use water. At Ikorodu, major [00:16:28] hub in the state, private ferry operators say despite some challenges [00:16:32] increased government involvement has been a game [00:16:35] changer. So let's say 20. 2018 at the time [00:16:39] where this particular terminal where raining was still on the [00:16:42] construction, we were moving about say 10, 15 boats per [00:16:46] day, now as of today we move nothing less than [00:16:50] 50 boats a day, with the growing success [00:16:54] of private operators and a big event like the e1 race, [00:16:58] the tide seems to be turning, it was where sustainability made [00:17:01] innovation, because what we saw happening with that boat race [00:17:05] was a dynam. way of looking at [00:17:09] water transport um and lot the local operators could [00:17:13] see the future, so we saw them as well getting involved, loving the [00:17:16] race and being able to plan for themselves, saying this is where we want eventually be in the [00:17:20] future. now we head to the sunny shores of [00:17:24] Cape Verde to see how digitization is helping boost economies across the [00:17:28] country by bringing more groups into the [00:17:31] mix. [00:17:35] vacation destination that once seemed far away is [00:17:38] suddenly within reach. In [00:17:42] the very early days, hardly anyone had heard of Cape Verde. [00:17:46] Now it is very much known destination, and [00:17:50] we are now experiencing a real explosion of interest [00:17:54] from all over, predominantly Europe, so very, [00:17:58] very well sort after destination. Flying 600 [00:18:01] kilome off the coast of West Africa, Cape Verde is a small string of [00:18:05] volcanic islands famed for. sun, sand and sea [00:18:08] life, not to mention miles of unbroken [00:18:12] beaches. This tiny country with a population of just over [00:18:16] 600 thousand has proven very attractive for [00:18:19] perspective investors and business of late has been [00:18:23] booming. In winter of 2025, the UK- based [00:18:27] low-cost airline easyjet expanded service to Cape [00:18:31] Verde with six new roots out of London and other major [00:18:35] European cities. It's Chief commercial officer Paul [00:18:39] Bixby says that while Cape Verd's government has been open to providing [00:18:42] economic support, the next step is making sure the country's infrastructure [00:18:46] and hotels are up to date and can handle a large increase in [00:18:50] visitors. We carry 100 million passengers, we've got 350 [00:18:54] aeroplanes, we're not, we're not niche, we're we're a digital [00:18:57] company, you disruption is marriage by phone, by [00:19:00] app, you don't have thousands of people that can that can manage [00:19:04] this, so it has to be quite seamless and quite mass market. [00:19:08] While tourism is unquestionably the backbone of Cape Verd's economy, [00:19:12] accounting for roughly a quarter the country's GDP, the island nation [00:19:16] is also looking to grow its digital sector. With investments in [00:19:20] e-government and cyber security, Cape Verde hopes to one day be a [00:19:23] competitive hub for IT services, Fintech and business processing [00:19:27] operations, servicing an international [00:19:29] clientel. All the businesses, not only [00:19:33] tourism, but especially tourism, that is the main service sector. [00:19:38] in in Cape Verde depends heavily on the digital. Cape Verde [00:19:42] knows the importance the digitalization the [00:19:45] services and the tourism ecosystem in Cape [00:19:49] Verdey. When tourists go to Cape Verde, you just you [00:19:52] use for example e-gate to cross the border easily uh in in in [00:19:56] some airport and there are more investment on that, so that's [00:20:00] facilitate everything. Whether it's a digital transformation and [00:20:04] burgening it sector or the continued growth of internet. national [00:20:07] tourism, this tiny island nation hopes they're planning [00:20:11] today will pay dividends for generations to [00:20:14] come. all [00:20:18] right, that does it for this very special edition of marketplace africa, the [00:20:21] link. thank you so much for joining me, remember you keep up with us on social [00:20:25] media and online as well. i'm zaine asha, i'll see you next [00:20:29] time in the [00:20:30] marketplace. [00:30:48] Dobar dan, poštovani gledaoci, dobrodošli u [00:30:50] dnevnik. [00:30:55] Dio rudara i dalje u jami raspotočje, rudnici [00:30:59] uglja u zed.