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[00:03:02] We return to the show Novi Dan, friend of the show General
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[00:03:19] Welcome back. As we know, the general elections in Bosnia and Herzegovina this
[00:03:22] year will be different than
[00:03:25] card, passport or travel document and ever before. For the first time we will vote with biometric
[00:03:28] voter identification. electronic scanners and
[00:03:31] completely different ballots,
[00:03:34] it was just yesterday and the day before yesterday that the Central Election Commission presented
[00:03:38] their final appearance, many citizens still do not
[00:03:41] know how the very act of voting will actually
[00:03:45] look, so we will use the next few minutes as
[00:03:48] a practical guide through election day, from the moment you
[00:03:52] arrive at the polling station, through identification and taking the ballot
[00:03:55] up to the correct filling and insertion of the ballot
[00:03:59] into the scanners or ballot boxes. Our guest is
[00:04:03] a member of the Central Election Commission, Professor Suad
[00:04:06] Arnautović. Thank you very much for your valuable time for
[00:04:09] all extremely, I would say, important
[00:04:12] clarifications. And if we can, in the next
[00:04:15] few minutes, prevent as many invalid ballots as possible, let's
[00:04:19] do that. Therefore, as we agreed, we will be
[00:04:22] very simple, expressing ourselves in the simplest possible
[00:04:26] language so that this remains, well, certainly also the next
[00:04:30] two months, a simple guide for the citizens of Bosnia and Herzegovina,
[00:04:34] so for the first time we have what we have been waiting for for a very long time, modern election
[00:04:37] technologies, let's start from the beginning of election day for
[00:04:41] citizens when they arrive at the polling station, what will be different
[00:04:45] during their identification, thank you
[00:04:47] very much, good morning, once again and
[00:04:50] registrations at thank you for the invitation, uh, so, the first thing that all our
[00:04:54] citizens, voters with voting rights, need to
[00:04:57] know, is what identification documents
[00:05:00] to bring with them to the polling
[00:05:03] station, so Article 5 point 12 of the Election Law stipulates
[00:05:07] that these are valid
[00:05:09] valid three valid documents. valid
[00:05:12] ID card, valid passport, valid
[00:05:15] driver's license, I emphasize the word valid and
[00:05:19] that's why I ask them to check now if any of these three documents are expiring,
[00:05:23] if the expiration date has already passed, if it will
[00:05:26] expire in the next few
[00:05:29] weeks, that document, so it's very important that it be
[00:05:33] a valid personal document, mhm, and regardless of
[00:05:36] all technologies, that part doesn't change, that part doesn't change, you know, if it's
[00:05:40] an invalid document about... this voter will not be able to
[00:05:44] because it's a strict legal provision, he wouldn't be able to exercise his
[00:05:48] voting right, upon arrival, so
[00:05:51] we - we now have two procedures, that's the novelty,
[00:05:54] we have voter identification and their
[00:05:57] authentication, mhm, confirming that it's that person,
[00:06:01] so identification is done with those three personal
[00:06:04] documents, it's handed to a member of the polling board who is in charge of
[00:06:07] identification, he scans through this document, I call it short
[00:06:11] and... That's a device that
[00:06:15] biom in which
[00:06:18] voters are identified through their biometric data
[00:06:22] stored in the ID, so the moment you were at the Ministry
[00:06:26] of Interior getting that
[00:06:28] document, you took a picture and gave your fingerprints, so your
[00:06:31] biometric data, I must emphasize
[00:06:35] for all those, so to speak, disbelievers who tried
[00:06:38] to dispute this process that it is completely
[00:06:42] protected personal data of
[00:06:46] voters in such a way that the picture is not visible at all, there is no image,
[00:06:50] so no fingerprint, but it is an algorithm, so
[00:06:53] a set of numerical symbols
[00:06:56] which cannot be converted back into
[00:07:00] an image, so that is very important
[00:07:04] due to some public statements, so to
[00:07:07] speak, of responsible persons from the agency for personal data protection who
[00:07:11] somehow questioned whether
[00:07:15] this process would violate
[00:07:18] the law on personal data protection, so absolutely no,
[00:07:22] there is complete protection and it is not
[00:07:24] possible to convert a fingerprint into an image. After
[00:07:28] the identification is done,
[00:07:31] then the authentication of that voter is done, so he must
[00:07:35] put his right index finger
[00:07:39] on the same device.
[00:07:43] mm which will be matched, his data will be combined, so
[00:07:47] to speak, with the biometrics that are already stored
[00:07:50] in the device that we got from the ID, right,
[00:07:54] his picture will be shown on the screen and that completes the process.
[00:07:58] After that, the device prints a slip, a
[00:08:01] confirmation that the voter signs and
[00:08:04] hands to a member of the polling board, he will put
[00:08:07] it in a small box, there will be a small box right there, these
[00:08:11] slips will be, so to speak. so uh, placed in that box after
[00:08:15] the end of election day at 7 p.m. they
[00:08:19] will be counted and also although
[00:08:21] the device itself will print
[00:08:24] this total turnout with all other data
[00:08:27] and this will be an additional check, so once again to
[00:08:31] repeat, personal document,
[00:08:34] uh, ID card, personal
[00:08:38] driver's license, traffic license, these are valid
[00:08:41] documents. approach to this
[00:08:45] to the polling station, submission
[00:08:48] of that document, scanning of that document through
[00:08:51] uh, biometric
[00:08:54] identification through fingerprint,
[00:08:58] uh, of the right index finger, in case, let
[00:09:00] me mention that, the procedure is precisely known and all members
[00:09:04] of the polling board will know it, especially that person, if they cannot use the right hand
[00:09:07] they can use the right thumb, if not then they can use the left index finger, left thumb and so
[00:09:11] on. We even have situations that we prescribed, if biometric
[00:09:15] identification cannot be performed, the president and
[00:09:17] a member of the polling board, in the presence of all, will allow
[00:09:21] the voter to vote based on the personal document.
[00:09:24] The next step is uh to take the ballot set
[00:09:28] ballot paper, so ballot papers are taken,
[00:09:31] there are four throughout the country except for
[00:09:35] Brčko District, that option, the Federation, they get
[00:09:38] three ballot papers because they do not vote for the cantonal assembly.
[00:09:43] Uh, when taking those ballots,
[00:09:47] a protective folder is also received, mhm, which
[00:09:50] serves to preserve the secrecy
[00:09:53] of the vote, mm, all those four ballots are thus placed in
[00:09:56] the protective folder and the voter goes to
[00:09:58] the booth, to the polling booth, there will
[00:10:02] be a special marker with which
[00:10:06] to fill in the circles or small circles, as we
[00:10:09] say, uh in front of political subjects.
[00:10:13] Uh, those four ballots, so, for example for a
[00:10:17] voter in the Federation, they vote for a member of the presidency,
[00:10:21] a Bosniak or a Croat, for the parliamentary assembly.
[00:10:25] House of Representatives for the Federation Parliament and for the Cantonal
[00:10:28] Assembly, so four ballots, one is with
[00:10:32] a majority vote system, that's for members of the presidency, and
[00:10:36] he only this is obliged, so to speak, we are talking
[00:10:40] about the voter, right, to fill in that small circle, that circle
[00:10:43] with that marker, so a very simple action, that's finished,
[00:10:47] his choice is one, there is a candidate's name in front of it
[00:10:51] there is a small circle and he circles that small circle for already, do we
[00:10:54] have here. new looks of ballots, yes I have them here
[00:10:58] but I think you that as far as I can see on the screen
[00:11:01] so I will ask the director to show them
[00:11:05] individually while we talk. Here is an example for a voter, I don't know now which camera
[00:11:08] is working, this is for a voter from
[00:11:12] the Federation who can vote for
[00:11:16] one or uh another member, meaning
[00:11:19] depending on their choice, it's about
[00:11:22] voters who can uh... vote either for the Bosniak
[00:11:26] option or for the Croat option from the Federation, but
[00:11:30] not both, so only one, only for one
[00:11:33] candidate, I brought a sample here and so
[00:11:36] on, so there is a small circle
[00:11:39] in front of the name, it's a very simple action, nothing
[00:11:43] much has changed there, so with a marker you
[00:11:47] fill in this small circle for only one candidate for a member
[00:11:50] of the presidency, it's the same in the Republic of Srpska, this
[00:11:54] is what... uh uh,
[00:11:57] so it's also filled in, what I didn't
[00:12:01] mention, but I will do it now, is
[00:12:04] the so-called part A of the ballot, because
[00:12:07] ballots consist of three parts,
[00:12:10] this is three parts according to the decision of the Central Election Commission,
[00:12:14] A, B and C, part A is therefore this first thing we said, part B is
[00:12:17] instructions for voting, every ballot therefore
[00:12:20] has
[00:12:22] part B, mhm, uh, in which is... in
[00:12:25] which are instructions on how to vote, what I already said and
[00:12:29] that part goes through the scanner, so A and
[00:12:32] B part, so to speak, goes through the scanner, yes mhm and
[00:12:36] so for every level, now there will
[00:12:39] be A and B parts, now we have it, now we
[00:12:42] have this system of proportional
[00:12:44] representation, so which some now find a bit
[00:12:48] complicated, so to speak, in public
[00:12:51] questioning whether it's complicated and so on. What is it
[00:12:55] about? Yes, here we need a little more attention compared to the
[00:12:59] previous one, so for the members of the presidency, since the change is very small compared
[00:13:02] to what we had before, so now when we talk
[00:13:06] about other levels, let's start from the state
[00:13:09] parliament, the changes are
[00:13:12] more pronounced, it is about the fact that
[00:13:15] the ballot contains, so to speak,
[00:13:19] vertically, the left and right side, on the left side are
[00:13:22] the names of political subjects. so coalitions
[00:13:26] of political parties, independent candidates, on the right side of that ballot are
[00:13:29] empty circles with numbers,
[00:13:33] now what are those numbers, what is it and so on, I would like
[00:13:36] to emphasize, so what is necessary for the ballot
[00:13:40] to be correct and what is not necessary, it is necessary to
[00:13:43] circle, fill in the circle of only one selected
[00:13:47] political subject, political party, coalition or independent, that is
[00:13:51] mandatory, yes, so, when you have decided for a party, you have.
[00:13:55] factually fulfilled your obligation as a voter,
[00:13:59] however, now the question arises, since we have the so-called
[00:14:02] ordinal preferential ballot,
[00:14:06] one of the three structural elements of the electoral system of Bosnia and
[00:14:09] Herzegovina, which allows the voter to now
[00:14:12] express their preferences on that selected list,
[00:14:15] so, that is only a possibility, not an obligation, I would prefer,
[00:14:19] so to speak, especially perhaps for
[00:14:22] older population, it is enough to, therefore... circle
[00:14:25] the party, you are only one, let's repeat,
[00:14:29] so that doesn't change in relation, because you
[00:14:32] actually express loyalty to that political
[00:14:35] party and you trust it to have arranged the candidates
[00:14:39] properly, however, if you don't really trust
[00:14:42] that order of parties, then you
[00:14:45] can give up to three preferences
[00:14:47] on that list for that multi-member
[00:14:50] constituency, how many
[00:14:53] candidates, so... if people need to know that there are
[00:14:57] multiple multi-member constituencies, for example, if
[00:15:01] I vote in Sarajevo for the state parliament, for me it's
[00:15:04] one list, mhm, or a list, right? The one who votes in the Una-Sana
[00:15:08] Canton in Bihać for him it's another list, yes or no,
[00:15:12] I don't know, we said we would use simple words, not complicate
[00:15:15] for that state level, so there are five multi-member
[00:15:18] constituencies in the Federation, and three multi-member constituencies in
[00:15:22] Republika Srpska and all are... are different lists, the principle is
[00:15:26] as follows, for example that as many as are elected from
[00:15:30] that, for example from Una-Sana Canton and Livno, that is constituency
[00:15:34] number one for the state level, it elects three state representatives
[00:15:37] to the state parliament, it is possible that there are
[00:15:41] on the list, so plus 5, that is, the law prescribed, 3 + 5, so
[00:15:45] eight circles, mhm, now when you decide in the first
[00:15:48] step for a party,
[00:15:51] it has its three candidates, right, and
[00:15:55] plus five, as much as the law allowed, there are eight
[00:15:57] circles, now you can therefore combine,
[00:16:01] you are not satisfied with how that party you
[00:16:04] chose arranged the first three, but you want
[00:16:07] the one at number eight or six or
[00:16:10] so and now some people
[00:16:13] problematize it how voters will cope
[00:16:16] and so on, so that's where the third part of the ballot
[00:16:19] comes in handy, part C is
[00:16:23] where the complete names are, so you must
[00:16:27] names, the easiest way,
[00:16:30] now I repeat once again, when you choose a party, you have finished
[00:16:34] the job, right, but if you want to...
[00:16:37] insist that you influence a certain
[00:16:40] candidate, then you must look at
[00:16:44] the candidate list that you receive along with
[00:16:47] those four ballots, right, that is, with
[00:16:51] those combinations, with that protective folder, we will
[00:16:55] go to that, right, that they have large posters on the polling
[00:16:59] booths themselves, before that, I hope we will all
[00:17:02] together familiarize ourselves with all those lists, so it is very
[00:17:06] important where you are.
[00:17:08] for whom you want to vote, mhm, and when you have
[00:17:12] finished that marking,
[00:17:16] you uh put all those four ballots back
[00:17:20] into the folder, turn them face down, right, you leave, all
[00:17:23] of that will be explained by the members of the polling board, you go to the scanner
[00:17:27] and one by one slowly slowly
[00:17:29] you pass it through the scanner, you pass
[00:17:33] it through the scanner, right, facing down, so hooked up to those A and
[00:17:37] B? ballot, that's right, that is, one for each level that has
[00:17:40] a B side, these are four ballots with another one we raise,
[00:17:44] so if we are talking about the state parliament, then the state
[00:17:48] parliament, each ballot therefore has the first and second side,
[00:17:51] mhm, and part B how to vote, that
[00:17:55] goes through the scanner, this third part C of the candidate
[00:17:59] list does not go through the scanner because it is actually a booklet that has multiple
[00:18:02] pages,
[00:18:05] uh, I have to, if you allow me, go back... to
[00:18:08] simplicity,
[00:18:11] uh, it is mandatory to circle the party, political party,
[00:18:14] coalition, independent, that is mandatory, because in the
[00:18:17] other case, if you only circled this choice, only
[00:18:20] these numbers on side B, then it would not
[00:18:23] be known to whom these numbers, to whom these candidates
[00:18:27] belong, right, that would then be an invalid ballot,
[00:18:31] so, the simplest principle, honestly, since it is
[00:18:34] a big, let's say step towards closing. to the ballots,
[00:18:38] because for you to skip this one from
[00:18:41] eighth place and come to first, you must win
[00:18:45] 20%
[00:18:47] of valid ballots that the party has already
[00:18:50] won, meaning out of 100 ballots you must have two, out of
[00:18:54] 100,000, now you must have 20,000, 20%
[00:18:57] of personal preferences, that is a slightly difficult circumstance
[00:19:01] for all candidates, the golden rule would be and
[00:19:04] probably the party will give such when... you circle
[00:19:08] the party, or the coalition, you have factually
[00:19:12] finished, so to speak, your obligation, you approach the
[00:19:15] scanner, the scanner automatically
[00:19:18] scans that ballot and
[00:19:22] you have finished the job, you return that folder, that
[00:19:25] that
[00:19:28] uh protective folder, that C part of the ballot and
[00:19:32] you leave the polling station, I can say
[00:19:35] that that scanner uh... will work in
[00:19:39] off mode, so offline
[00:19:42] mode, it will not be connected to the internet, from 7
[00:19:45] to 19 hours, at the end
[00:19:47] of its work at the polling station, when the
[00:19:51] polling station is closed, the scanner will be connected,
[00:19:55] first it will print a slip, this one on which will be
[00:19:58] all results by parties, candidates and all statistics, that slip
[00:20:02] will be signed by members of the polling board, then the
[00:20:05] scanner will be turned on, those results will be sent
[00:20:09] uh that's that electronic transmission
[00:20:12] of results sent to the main counting center, the main
[00:20:15] server, right, in Sarajevo
[00:20:18] so I know it's a somewhat trivial question but it's still
[00:20:21] being asked, that scanner cannot read immediately on the spot if the voter
[00:20:25] made a mistake or anything similar, we will get
[00:20:28] its results, so to speak, which will be used as preliminary,
[00:20:32] about an hour and a half after the closing of the polling stations, that's that, then
[00:20:36] after that it starts. That's right, the scanner actually creates an image,
[00:20:40] you know how the voter marked it, that's how it will be, right, so
[00:20:43] even if some ballots are invalid, for example if the
[00:20:47] voter marked two. subjects and so on,
[00:20:51] that would certainly be an invalid ballot, but generally the scanner records
[00:20:55] everything and nothing can be changed anymore,
[00:20:58] those results are sent and these are preliminary results with
[00:21:02] which public opera,
[00:21:05] after that there is immediately a procedure of manual counting,
[00:21:09] the legislator prescribed that, now it is another procedure, so let's go back
[00:21:13] to this perhaps if we were not clear enough,
[00:21:17] it is enough to say that a voter must...
[00:21:20] have valid personal documents, that they must perform
[00:21:23] authentication, that they vote with four
[00:21:26] ballot papers, let me mention that in Republika Srpska also a member
[00:21:30] of the presidency, right, also the parliamentary assembly of Bosnia and
[00:21:33] Herzegovina, but in addition to that, also the National Assembly of Republika Srpska and
[00:21:37] the president and vice-presidents of the Federation, so a voter in
[00:21:40] Republika Srpska has two ballots which
[00:21:44] are uh whose content is a majority
[00:21:47] vote, meaning for a member of the president.
[00:21:51] and for the president and vice-president of the Federation,
[00:21:53] a completely simple ballot, so just fill in the circle, that's
[00:21:57] all, you don't have any further activities there, and for
[00:22:00] this system of proportional representation, if you
[00:22:04] circle a party, you have also finished the job, but if
[00:22:07] you want intervention, then there is this second step where you need to
[00:22:11] know the structure of the names of the candidates you want
[00:22:15] to eventually prefer, mhm,
[00:22:18] m, I believe that...
[00:22:20] "many are still convinced that they will need more help than before,
[00:22:24] the help of one person is allowed, let's clarify whether
[00:22:27] anything has changed there compared to previous
[00:22:30] rules? In principle, so nothing, it's the help
[00:22:33] of another person, meaning only one person can help
[00:22:37] one, this other person, there cannot
[00:22:40] be multiple help, right, it will also be recorded in all
[00:22:44] our forms, on uh
[00:22:47] printers, on on printouts.
[00:22:50] must be signed, so that person with their personal
[00:22:54] data, this voter who is, who
[00:22:57] helped, that person who helped the voter, nothing
[00:23:00] has changed there, some documentation is needed,
[00:23:04] there is thus one one
[00:23:07] procedure uh, completely
[00:23:10] prescribed, usual also for some other
[00:23:13] categories, I won't elaborate on them too much, these
[00:23:16] are voting through a mobile team where that one documentation is needed
[00:23:20] for a sick person to whom the
[00:23:24] mobile team comes to the spot and so on, but these
[00:23:28] four steps are very important, so let's remember
[00:23:30] that, uh, look, in the next
[00:23:34] period we expect that political parties and media,
[00:23:38] well, like you, will get involved, so that this is brought closer
[00:23:41] to every, every uh
[00:23:44] voter,
[00:23:47] I repeat, this is a very simple procedure. a very
[00:23:50] simple procedure, uh, except for this
[00:23:54] part that might be a bit complicated for someone,
[00:23:58] because it's new, but if we explain it intensively
[00:24:01] to voters for the next two months, I think
[00:24:04] it won't be that complicated in the end,
[00:24:07] especially since it's not an obligation for you to
[00:24:11] use preferences, you vote for individual candidates, for the state
[00:24:14] parliament, for the federal parliament, for cantonal assemblies, that's right,
[00:24:18] because if I choose a party. you know, why would I now
[00:24:22] doubt the leadership of that party that carried out
[00:24:26] the ranking, why I think that's how I would like someone to enter
[00:24:29] and here you will
[00:24:32] certainly see appearances, but that is already in the political sphere, that is not
[00:24:36] this educational part, so to speak, this
[00:24:40] much will those on the candidate list be engaged,
[00:24:43] how much will they be engaged if, for example, they are in eighth place
[00:24:47] mhm compared to the one who is in first place and so on. Will they even
[00:24:51] be engaged and so on, here questions
[00:24:54] arise, political questions of political nature, political
[00:24:57] activities of political parties, I would not go deeper into
[00:25:01] that, the principle is that if a voter circles a party,
[00:25:05] that is a valid ballot, he is not obliged to take this second
[00:25:09] step, but if he wants to, the legislator has given him that option too.
[00:25:12] option, but only one party, so that once again never enough
[00:25:15] votes, only one party, only one, only one party, so a vote for
[00:25:19] two parties automatically means that the ballot is void. This
[00:25:23] is the same as it has been until now, just as it has been until now, if you vote for two
[00:25:26] members of the presidency or two two
[00:25:30] individual candidates, for example, on the list for the president and vice-president of the RS
[00:25:34] , that ballot will also be discarded. We have only
[00:25:37] a few more minutes left of the conversation, we have to finish quickly so that
[00:25:41] we can mention a few more important
[00:25:44] pieces of information. Namely, for all this to work as it should, you need
[00:25:48] a serious number of operators across Bosnia and
[00:25:51] Herzegovina. So, people who will undergo special training to
[00:25:55] help at the polling station, the polling committee,
[00:25:58] everyone who will vote using new technologies.
[00:26:02] "Close to 4000 operators are needed throughout Bosnia and
[00:26:06] Herzegovina , 3,997 will work for a financial
[00:26:10] compensation which is not bad
[00:26:12] to somehow apply for
[00:26:16] our announced tender. Yes, so what you need to know 310 convertible marks. So, an appeal to all of them
[00:26:20] besides the three to five members of the polling committee who are
[00:26:23] appointed members of the election administration bodies, we will also have
[00:26:27] this technical support, so at each polling station there will be one
[00:26:30] operator who will be in charge, who will arrive at 6 AM
[00:26:34] together with the members of the polling committees to help install the devices,
[00:26:38] check their functionality, print out the zero copy to
[00:26:41] see that everything is zero and so on. So, these are
[00:26:44] technical personnel. In addition to that, we will also have
[00:26:48] technicians, uh, field technicians, uh,
[00:26:51] who will provide support, who will also be like a mobile
[00:26:55] team, so to speak, who will be organized by the company and will be
[00:26:58] responsible for intervention at each polling
[00:27:02] place if there is jamming of ballots, some
[00:27:06] delays and so on and so forth. Mhm, let's also
[00:27:09] touch upon the campaign, so the other side
[00:27:12] of the story. Transparency International announced yesterday
[00:27:16] that about 1,200 cases of potential misuse
[00:27:19] of public resources were recorded, and that such cases were reported
[00:27:22] to the Central Election Commission, many of them. However,
[00:27:26] the CEC has punished only
[00:27:29] a few of them. How do you respond to them? Well,
[00:27:33] thank you for that question. You see, I would like to hear that Transparency
[00:27:37] has in the past or now spoken out about a very
[00:27:41] important thing, that is how is it
[00:27:44] that uh the law provides for
[00:27:47] one, one, one, we have an absurd norm in Article 2.11 paragraph
[00:27:51] 3, the last sentence, that our rulebook on systematization and
[00:27:55] internal organization the Council of Ministers gives
[00:27:58] its consent, thereby practically annulling the independent
[00:28:02] position of the Central Election Commission. The Council of Ministers, without
[00:28:06] any explanation, did not give its consent to our rulebook on
[00:28:09] internal organization. Firstly, it was prepared for a long time, which would
[00:28:13] enable a sufficient number of engaged people, lawyers
[00:28:17] and others who would work on these cases. Let me tell you, so
[00:28:20] that famous Article 7.2 has three paragraphs.
[00:28:23] In the second paragraph, there are eight sub-
[00:28:27] points, points, right? Paragraph 2 has eight points where
[00:28:30] situations of misuse of public funds and resources are extensively
[00:28:34] explained. So you would have to have
[00:28:37] teams of investigators, inspectors who would, for example,
[00:28:41] deal with the misuse of public funds in terms of using
[00:28:45] helicopters, cars and so on, the vehicle fleet
[00:28:48] or, I don't know, people who work here
[00:28:52] on the so-called official campaign.
[00:28:55] So, the short answer is, uh, as many
[00:28:58] people as we have at our disposal because we were given, you know, the High
[00:29:02] Representative gave us new tasks, new norms,
[00:29:05] new obligations, but the organization and systematization
[00:29:09] remained from 20 years ago. Yes, but they say you are more tolerant than in
[00:29:13] previous ones. No, we simply cannot keep up. If you have 200 cases, you understand
[00:29:16] , currently, and every day another 10 come in and so on,
[00:29:20] and you have a limited number of, say, five lawyers, you simply
[00:29:23] cannot keep up with that. So, with all due respect and
[00:29:27] appreciation, and probably
[00:29:30] 199% of those from Transparency are
[00:29:32] right when they criticize this, but simply one should
[00:29:36] face reality because for you to execute, you must fulfill,
[00:29:40] so to speak, what I call in English LBP, so you have
[00:29:44] law, you have the law, you have a budget, you have money, as the High
[00:29:47] Representative provided us, but the third thing, people, you
[00:29:51] don't have, and you are simply faced with what
[00:29:54] you have. Mhm, and the last question for the end, just in a few
[00:29:57] sentences and because of numerous readers who sent us... let's
[00:30:01] try to explain this. You say
[00:30:03] you don't have people, we are talking about people, again, voters from the
[00:30:07] diaspora. You yourselves said that you were disappointed with
[00:30:10] the turnout. Even 20,000 fewer citizens will
[00:30:13] vote in these elections compared to the general elections in 2022
[00:30:17] from the diaspora. Certain groups from the diaspora even wrote
[00:30:21] to the European Union to try to address the problem in some way
[00:30:24] and solve it. Very briefly, how do you explain what
[00:30:28] happened? This is a conflict
[00:30:30] of multiple factors, so to speak, a convergence of multiple
[00:30:34] factors. One of those factors is that we introduced strict
[00:30:38] procedures, which are indeed bureaucratic and so
[00:30:41] on, but we had to do it and the law gave us
[00:30:44] the authority for diaspora registration because we had
[00:30:48] all sorts of things, we had massive, massive
[00:30:53] gas station addresses, public institutions and so
[00:30:56] on and so forth, so we were in those...