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[00:00:00] one, only for one
[00:00:18] As we know, the general elections in Bosnia and Herzegovina this year will be
[00:00:21] different than ever before.
[00:00:23] passport, or travel document, and For the first time, we will vote with biometric
[00:00:26] voter identification, electronic scanners, and different
[00:00:30] ballots. Just yesterday and the day before yesterday,
[00:00:32] the Central Election Commission presented their final appearance.
[00:00:36] Many citizens still don't know how
[00:00:39] the act of voting itself will actually
[00:00:43] look, so we will use the next few minutes as
[00:00:46] a practical guide through election day, from the moment you
[00:00:50] arrive at the polling station, through identification and ballot
[00:00:53] collection, all the way to proper filling and scanning
[00:00:57] of ballots into scanners or ballot boxes. Our guest
[00:01:01] is a member of the Central Election Commission, Professor Suad
[00:01:04] Arnautović. Thank you very much for your time, for
[00:01:07] all extremely, I would say, important clarifications,
[00:01:11] and if we can, in the next few minutes, prevent as
[00:01:14] many invalid ballots as possible, let's do it.
[00:01:18] Therefore, as we agreed, we will be very
[00:01:20] simple, expressing ourselves in the simplest possible
[00:01:24] language, so that this remains, for the next two
[00:01:28] months, a simple guide for the citizens of Bosnia and Herzegovina.
[00:01:32] So, for the first time, we have what we have been waiting for for a very long time, modern electoral
[00:01:35] technologies. Let's start from the beginning of election day for
[00:01:39] citizens when they arrive at the polling station. What will be different
[00:01:43] during their identification? Thank you
[00:01:45] very much, good morning, once again, and
[00:01:48] massive registrations at thank you for the invitation. Uh, so, the first thing that all our
[00:01:52] citizens, voters with voting rights, need to
[00:01:55] know is which identification documents
[00:01:58] they bring with them to the polling station.
[00:02:02] Uh, so, Article 5, Section 12 of the Election Law stipulates that these
[00:02:06] are valid, three valid
[00:02:09] documents: a valid ID card, a valid passport,
[00:02:13] and a valid driver's license. I emphasize the word
[00:02:16] "valid," and that's why I ask them to check now if any of these three
[00:02:20] documents are expiring, if their expiration date has already
[00:02:23] passed, if that document will expire
[00:02:27] in the next few weeks. So... "it's very important that the
[00:02:31] personal document is valid, mhm, and regardless
[00:02:34] of all technologies, that part doesn't change. That part doesn't change, you know.
[00:02:38] So, if the document is invalid,
[00:02:41] the voter will not be able to, because it is a strict legal provision, they would
[00:02:45] not be able to exercise their voting right. Upon
[00:02:48] arrival, we now have two procedures, that's
[00:02:51] the novelty. We have voter identification and their
[00:02:55] authentication, confirming that it is that person.
[00:02:59] So, identification is performed
[00:03:00] must follow those with one of those three personal documents. It is handed to a member
[00:03:03] of the polling committee who is responsible for identification. They scan the
[00:03:07] document through this device, which I briefly
[00:03:11] call AFIS, it is a device that
[00:03:15] identifies voters through their biometric
[00:03:18] data stored in the idea, so at the moment you
[00:03:22] got that document from the Ministry of Internal
[00:03:24] Affairs, you took a picture and
[00:03:28] gave your fingerprints. So... your biometric data.
[00:03:32] I must emphasize for all those, so to speak, skeptics who have
[00:03:36] tried to dispute this process that
[00:03:39] the personal data of voters
[00:03:43] is fully protected in such a way that the picture is not visible
[00:03:47] at all, there is no image, no fingerprint, but it is an algorithm,
[00:03:50] so a set of numerical numbers
[00:03:54] which cannot be converted back into
[00:03:58] an image. So... that is very important
[00:04:02] due to some public statements, so to
[00:04:05] speak, by responsible persons from the Agency for
[00:04:09] facing, so attached are those Personal Data Protection who have in a way called
[00:04:12] into question whether this
[00:04:15] procedure will violate the Law on Personal
[00:04:18] Data Protection. So, the protection is absolutely incomplete
[00:04:21] and it is not possible to convert
[00:04:24] a fingerprint into an image. After the identification
[00:04:27] is performed,
[00:04:30] then the authentication of that voter is performed. They must
[00:04:33] make a fingerprint
[00:04:35] on the same device
[00:04:39] of their right index finger,
[00:04:42] which will match, it will be compiled,
[00:04:45] so to speak, their data with the biometrics that are already stored
[00:04:48] in the device, which we received from the ID, right?
[00:04:52] On the screen, their picture will be shown, and with that, the
[00:04:56] process is completed. After that, the device prints a slip, a confirmation,
[00:05:00] which the voter signs and hands to a member of the polling
[00:05:03] committee. They will put it in a small box, there will be a small
[00:05:07] box right there, those slips will then be
[00:05:11] placed in that box. After the end
[00:05:14] of the entire election day at 7 PM, they will be counted,
[00:05:17] and also, although the device itself will
[00:05:21] print the total
[00:05:24] turnout with all other data, this will be an additional
[00:05:27] check. So, to repeat once again, personal
[00:05:30] document, uh, identity card,
[00:05:36] driver's license, traffic license, these are valid
[00:05:39] documents. Approaching this...
[00:05:43] to the polling station, handing
[00:05:46] over that document, scanning that document through
[00:05:49] the device, mm, biometric
[00:05:52] identification through the fingerprint
[00:05:54] of the right index finger. In case,
[00:05:57] I should mention, the procedure is exactly known, and all members
[00:06:00] of the polling committee will know it, especially that person, if they cannot use their right hand,
[00:06:04] they can use their right thumb, if not, they can use their left index finger, left thumb, and so
[00:06:07] on. We even have situations that we have prescribed. If biometric
[00:06:11] identification cannot be performed, the president and a member of the polling committee,
[00:06:15] with the presence of all, will enable the voter
[00:06:19] to vote based on their personal document.
[00:06:21] The next step is to receive
[00:06:25] a set of ballots. So, ballots are received, there are four
[00:06:28] in the entire country, except for
[00:06:32] Brčko District, that option for the Federation. They receive
[00:06:36] three ballots because they do not vote for any cantonal assembly.
[00:06:40] "Uh...
[00:06:42] "When picking up these ballots, a protective
[00:06:46] folder is also provided, mhm, which serves to
[00:06:49] maintain the secrecy of the vote. All
[00:06:52] four ballots are placed in the protective folder, and the voter
[00:06:55] goes into the booth,
[00:06:58] the voting booth. There will be a special
[00:07:02] marker with which they will fill
[00:07:04] in the circles or circles, as we call them,
[00:07:08] in front of the political entities. Uh,
[00:07:11] these four" So, for example, for
[00:07:15] voters in the Federation, they vote for a member of the Presidency,
[00:07:19] a Bosniak or a Croat,
[00:07:21] for the parliamentary assembly, the House of Representatives, for
[00:07:24] the Federation Parliament and for the cantonal assembly, from that, therefore, four
[00:07:28] ballots, one is with a majority voting system, that is for
[00:07:32] members of the Presidency, and he only
[00:07:36] is obliged, so to speak, I am speaking about the voter, right, to
[00:07:39] fill in that circle, that circle with that marker. Mhm, so
[00:07:43] a very simple action, with that he has finished, his choice is one,
[00:07:46] there is a candidate's name, in front of it is a circle and he circles that
[00:07:50] circle, right? Do we have new ballot designs from you,
[00:07:54] yes, I have them here, but I think you are, as
[00:07:58] far as I can see on the screen, ready,
[00:08:01] so I will ask the direction while we are talking about individual
[00:08:04] ones to show for the voter, I don't know which camera
[00:08:08] is working now, this is for the voter from the Federation.
[00:08:12] who can vote for one or
[00:08:16] uh, another member, meaning depending on their
[00:08:19] choice, it refers to voters who can
[00:08:21] vote, meaning either for the option
[00:08:24] Bosniak or for the option Croat from the Federation, but
[00:08:28] not both, so only
[00:08:31] candidate. I brought here now, this is a sample and so
[00:08:34] on. So, here there is a circle in front
[00:08:38] of the name, it's a very simple action, nothing has changed
[00:08:41] much here. So, you fill in this
[00:08:45] circle with the marker for only one candidate for a member of the Presidency.
[00:08:49] It's the same in Republika Srpska, with
[00:08:52] the difference that
[00:08:54] uh
[00:08:57] uh, so it is also filled in, but I did not point out, and I will
[00:09:01] do so now, that is the so-called A part of the ballot,
[00:09:04] because the ballot consists of three, of three,
[00:09:08] this, of three parts according to the decision of the Central Election Commission, A...
[00:09:12] B and C. Part A is, therefore, what we said first, part B is the voting
[00:09:16] instructions. Each ballot, therefore, has
[00:09:20] part B, mhm, uh, in which there are instructions on
[00:09:23] how to vote, what I have already said,
[00:09:26] and that part goes through the scanner. So, A and
[00:09:30] B part, so to speak, it goes through the scanner, right? Mhm, and
[00:09:34] therefore, for each level, now we have
[00:09:38] now we have, that's right, now we have, now we have this
[00:09:41] proportional system of national representation,
[00:09:45] which some people are now complicating
[00:09:48] in public, saying it's complicated and so on. What is
[00:09:51] it about? Here we need a little more attention compared to
[00:09:55] the previous one. So, for members of the presidency, considering that the change is very small
[00:09:58] compared to what we had before. Now, when we talk about
[00:10:02] other levels, let's start from the state
[00:10:05] parliament, the changes are a bit more pronounced.
[00:10:08] So, it's about
[00:10:12] the ballot containing, so to speak, a left
[00:10:16] and right side when viewed vertically. On the left side are
[00:10:20] the names of political entities, so coalitions
[00:10:24] of political parties and independent candidates. On the right side of that
[00:10:27] ballot are empty circles with numbers.
[00:10:31] Now, what are these numbers, what is what, and so on. I would
[00:10:34] like to point out what is necessary for
[00:10:38] a ballot to be valid, what is mandatory and what is not mandatory. It is mandatory
[00:10:41] to circle, to fill in the circle of only one selected
[00:10:45] political entity, political party, coalition, or independent. That is
[00:10:49] mandatory, yes. So, once you have chosen a party, you have
[00:10:52] practically fulfilled your obligation
[00:10:56] as a voter, your... However, now the question arises, since we have
[00:10:59] the so-called ordinal preferential ballot,
[00:11:03] one of the three structural elements of the electoral system
[00:11:07] of Bosnia and Herzegovina, which allows the voter to now
[00:11:10] express their preferences on that selected list, so
[00:11:14] that is only an option, not an obligation. I would prefer, so to
[00:11:18] speak, especially for the older population,
[00:11:21] it is enough to circle the party, yes?
[00:11:25] You just one, let's repeat, it doesn't
[00:11:28] change because you virtually express
[00:11:32] loyalty to that political party and trust that
[00:11:35] it has ranked the candidates properly. However, if
[00:11:39] you don't really trust that ranking of parties,
[00:11:42] then you can give up to three preferences
[00:11:45] on that list for that multi-member
[00:11:48] constituency, how many candidates, so if
[00:11:51] people need to know that there are multi-member
[00:11:55] constituencies. For example, if I vote in Sarajevo for
[00:11:59] the state parliament, for me it is
[00:12:02] one list, mhm, or rather, a list, right?
[00:12:06] The one who votes in the Una-Sana Canton in Bihać has
[00:12:09] another list, right? Or I don't know, we said
[00:12:13] we would use simple words, we won't complicate things for that state
[00:12:16] level. So, there are five multi-member constituencies in the Federation,
[00:12:20] and three multi-member constituencies in Republika Srpska,
[00:12:24] and all lists are different. The principle is the following: for example,
[00:12:28] as many as are elected from, for example, Una-Sana Canton
[00:12:32] and Livno, that is electoral unit number one for the state level, it
[00:12:35] elects three state representatives to the state parliament.
[00:12:39] It is possible for there to be plus five on the list, so
[00:12:43] it is legally prescribed, 3 plus 5, so eight circles, mhm.
[00:12:46] Now, when you choose a party in the first
[00:12:49] step, it has its three candidates,
[00:12:53] right, and
[00:12:55] plus five, as the law allowed." There are eight circles, mhm, and now
[00:12:58] you can, therefore, combine. You are not satisfied with how
[00:13:02] the party you chose ranked the first three,
[00:13:06] but you want the one at number eight or
[00:13:08] six or then, and
[00:13:11] now some people are problematizing how voters will manage and so
[00:13:15] on. So, that's where the third part of the ballot comes to the rescue,
[00:13:19] part C, right, where the complete
[00:13:23] names are. So, you
[00:13:25] names. The easiest way, I repeat
[00:13:28] once again, is when you choose a party, you have finished
[00:13:32] the job, right? But if you want to
[00:13:36] insist on a specific candidate,
[00:13:40] then you must consult this candidate list
[00:13:43] which you receive together with those, those
[00:13:47] four ballots, right, or with those combinations, with
[00:13:50] that protective folder. We will go to that, right, to
[00:13:54] have... and large posters in the voting
[00:13:57] booths themselves, before that, I hope we will all together
[00:14:01] familiarize ourselves with all those lists. So, it is very important where you
[00:14:04] are, for whom you want to
[00:14:08] vote, mhm, and when you have
[00:14:10] finished marking,
[00:14:14] you uh place all four ballots back
[00:14:18] in the folder, turn them face down, right, you leave, all
[00:14:21] this will be instructed by the members of the polling committee, you go to the scanner
[00:14:25] and one by one, slowly, slowly
[00:14:28] you push them through the scanner, you push them through the scanner, right,
[00:14:34] A and B ballots, that's right, or one for each
[00:14:38] level that has a B side, those are four ballots, just to clarify once again,
[00:14:41] so, if we are talking about the state
[00:14:44] parliament, then the state parliament, each ballot that has
[00:14:48] a front and back side, mhm, and side B
[00:14:51] on how to vote in addition, and that goes through the scanner, this.
[00:14:55] The third part, C, the candidate lists, do not go through the scanner, because
[00:14:59] it is actually a booklet that has many pages.
[00:15:01] stranica.
[00:15:09] It is mandatory to circle the party, political party,
[00:15:12] coalition, independent, that is mandatory, because in the
[00:15:16] other case, if you only circled this choice, only these
[00:15:19] numbers on side B, then it would not be
[00:15:22] known to whom those numbers, which candidates
[00:15:25] belong, right? Then it would be an invalid list, mhm.
[00:15:29] So, the simplest principle, honestly, because it's
[00:15:33] a big, let's say, step towards closing the ballots,
[00:15:36] because... "if you want to skip this from
[00:15:39] the eighth place and come to the first, you must win
[00:15:43] 20%
[00:15:46] of valid ballots that the party has already
[00:15:48] won. So, for 100 ballots, you need two, for
[00:15:52] 100,000, you now need 20,000, 20%
[00:15:56] of personal preferences. That's a bit of a mitigating circumstance for
[00:16:00] all candidates. The golden rule would be, and the party will probably
[00:16:03] give it that way, when you circle the party..."
[00:16:07] or coalition, you have practically
[00:16:10] finished, so to speak, your obligation. You approach the scanner,
[00:16:14] the scanner automatically feeds,
[00:16:18] scans that ballot and you have finished the job. You return
[00:16:22] that folder, that
[00:16:23] that
[00:16:26] protective folder, that C part of the ballot and
[00:16:30] you leave the polling station. Let me say that that
[00:16:34] scanner will operate in...
[00:16:38] mode, so, offline mode, it will not be connected to
[00:16:41] the internet. From 7:00 to 19:00, upon
[00:16:45] completion of its
[00:16:48] work at the polling station, when the polling station closes,
[00:16:51] the scanner will be connected, it will first print a
[00:16:54] slip, this one, which will contain all the results by parties, candidates
[00:16:58] and all statistics. That slip will be signed by the members of the polling
[00:17:02] committee and then the scanner will be turned on, those
[00:17:05] results will be sent to uh, that is that
[00:17:09] electronic transmission of results sent to
[00:17:12] the main counting center, the main server, right, in Sarajevo.
[00:17:16] So, I know it's a somewhat trivial question, but it's still
[00:17:20] asked. That scanner cannot read immediately on the spot if the voter
[00:17:23] made a mistake or anything similar. We will
[00:17:27] get its results, so to speak, which will be used as preliminary,
[00:17:30] about an hour and a half after the polling stations close. That's it, then
[00:17:34] after that, they start.
[00:17:42] Well, even if some ballots are invalid, if, for example, the
[00:17:46] voter marked two subjects and so on,
[00:17:49] that would certainly be an invalid ballot, but generally the scanner records
[00:17:53] everything and nothing else can be changed.
[00:17:57] Those results are sent and those are preliminary results with
[00:18:00] which the public operates.
[00:18:04] After that, the procedure of manual counting immediately begins.
[00:18:08] The legislator prescribed that, now it's a different procedure. So, let's go back
[00:18:11] to this, if we were perhaps not clear enough,
[00:18:15] it is enough to say that the voter must
[00:18:18] have valid personal documents, that they must perform
[00:18:22] authentication, that they vote with four
[00:18:25] ballots, yes, let me mention that in Republika Srpska, it is also a member
[00:18:28] of the Presidency, right, also the Parliamentary Assembly of Bosnia and
[00:18:32] Herzegovina, but in addition to that, also the National Assembly of Republika Srpska and
[00:18:35] the President and Vice Presidents of the Federation.
[00:18:38] So, the voter in Republika Srpska has two ballots
[00:18:41] which are,
[00:18:44] whose content is a majority vote, meaning for
[00:18:47] a member of the Presidency and for the President and
[00:18:50] Vice President of the Federation, a completely simple ballot,
[00:18:54] so you just fill in the circle, that's all, you don't have
[00:18:57] any further activities, and for this system of proportional
[00:19:00] representation, if you circle a party, you have also
[00:19:04] finished the job, but if you want an intervention, then... this is the other
[00:19:08] step, where you need to know the structure
[00:19:11] of the names of the candidates you want
[00:19:14] to prefer. Mhm, mm, I
[00:19:17] believe that many are still convinced that they will need more help
[00:19:21] than before. The help of one person is allowed, let's clarify
[00:19:25] if anything has changed in that regard compared to previous
[00:19:28] rules? In principle, therefore, nothing, it is the help
[00:19:31] of another person, meaning only one person can help
[00:19:35] one other person.
[00:19:37] "Multiple assistance cannot be, right? It will also
[00:19:41] be recorded in all our forms,
[00:19:43] on printers, on
[00:19:46] printouts, on... that person will also
[00:19:49] have to sign with their personal
[00:19:52] data, this voter who
[00:19:55] helped, that person who helped the voter. Nothing
[00:19:59] has changed there, some documentation is needed,
[00:20:02] so there is a
[00:20:05] procedure uh"
[00:20:07] completely prescribed, customary for
[00:20:11] other categories too, which I won't elaborate on now, these
[00:20:15] are voting through a mobile team where documentation is required
[00:20:18] for a sick person to whom
[00:20:22] a mobile team comes on site and so on, but
[00:20:26] these four steps are very important, let's remember that.
[00:20:30] Uh, look, in the coming period
[00:20:33] we expect political parties and media, like
[00:20:37] you, to get involved so that this is as close as possible to every
[00:20:41] single voter.
[00:20:44] I repeat, this is a very simple
[00:20:47] procedure, a very simple procedure.
[00:20:50] Um, except for this part which might
[00:20:54] complicate things for someone, since it's
[00:20:57] new, but if we intensively explain it to voters for the next
[00:21:00] two months, I think it won't be that
[00:21:04] complicated in the end, especially since it's not obligatory
[00:21:08] for you to use preferences, to choose individual
[00:21:11] candidates for the state parliament, for the federal parliament, for cantonal
[00:21:15] assemblies, that's right, because if I choose a party,
[00:21:18] you know why would I now doubt
[00:21:22] the leadership of that party which made
[00:21:24] the ranking, why? I mean, that's how
[00:21:28] I would want someone to enter and here you will
[00:21:31] certainly see that there will be appearances, but that is already in the political sphere, that is no longer
[00:21:35] this educational part, so to speak, this, how much
[00:21:38] will those on the candidate list be engaged, how much will
[00:21:42] they be engaged if, for example, they are in eighth place, mhm,
[00:21:45] compared to the one who is in first place, and so on, whether they will be engaged
[00:21:49] at all, and so on. Here, now, questions
[00:21:52] are opening up, political questions, political in nature, political
[00:21:55] activities of political parties, I will not go deeper into
[00:21:59] that. The principle is, therefore, if the voter circles
[00:22:03] a party, that is a valid ballot, they are not obliged at all to take
[00:22:06] this other step, but if they wish, the legislator
[00:22:10] gave them that option, yes, but only one party, let's reiterate, never enough,
[00:22:14] only one party, only one, only one party. So, a vote for two
[00:22:18] parties automatically means that the ballot
[00:22:20] is void. That's the same as it has been so far, the same as before,
[00:22:24] if you vote for two members of the presidency or
[00:22:26] two two individual candidates, for example, on the list
[00:22:30] for president and vice president of RS, that ballot will also be
[00:22:34] invalid. We only have a few minutes left until the end of the conversation,
[00:22:38] I need to finish quickly, so let's mention a few
[00:22:41] more important pieces of information. Namely, for all of this
[00:22:44] to function as it should, you need a serious number of
[00:22:48] operators across Bosnia and Herzegovina.
[00:22:50] So, people who will go through special training to help
[00:22:53] at the polling station, the polling committee, everyone
[00:22:57] who will vote using new technologies. You need close to
[00:23:01] 400 operators throughout Bosnia and Herzegovina.
[00:23:05] 3,997 will work for a monetary compensation
[00:23:09] that is not bad, 310 convertible marks. So,
[00:23:12] an appeal to all of them to somehow apply for our competition that we
[00:23:15] announced, yes? So, what needs to be known, in addition to three
[00:23:19] or five members of the polling committee who are appointed
[00:23:23] members of the election administration bodies, we will also have this technical support. So,
[00:23:27] in every polling station there will be one operator who will be
[00:23:30] responsible, who will arrive at 6 AM along with the members of the polling committees to help
[00:23:34] install the devices, check their functionality,
[00:23:38] print out that zero copy to see that it's all zero and so
[00:23:42] on. These are technical personnel. In addition
[00:23:45] to that, we will also have technicians, uh, field
[00:23:48] technicians, mm... support who will
[00:23:51] also be like a mobile team, so to speak, who will be organized
[00:23:55] by the company, who will be responsible for
[00:23:58] intervention at every polling station if there is
[00:24:02] ballot jamming, some delays, and so on, and so
[00:24:05] on. Let's also turn to the campaign,
[00:24:09] so the other side of the story. Transparency International
[00:24:12] yesterday announced that about 1,200
[00:24:16] examples of potential misuse of public
[00:24:19] resources have been recorded, that such examples were reported
[00:24:23] to the Central Election Commission, so many of them,
[00:24:26] but that the CEC only punished a few.
[00:24:29] How do you respond to them? Well, thank you for that question, you see, I would like
[00:24:33] to hear that Transparency International in the past
[00:24:37] or now has spoken about a very important matter,
[00:24:41] which is how it is that
[00:24:44] the law provides for an absurd
[00:24:48] norm in Article 2.11, paragraph 3, last sentence, that
[00:24:51] our rulebook on systematization and internal organization
[00:24:55] is given by the Council of Ministers. consent, which
[00:24:58] effectively annuls the independent position of the Central
[00:25:02] Election Commission. The Council of Ministers without any explanation did not
[00:25:05] give consent to our regulations on internal organization,
[00:25:09] first, it was prepared for a long time, which would enable a sufficient number
[00:25:13] of engaged people, lawyers, others who would work on these
[00:25:16] cases. Let me tell you, therefore that famous
[00:25:20] Article 7.2, it has three paragraphs, in the second paragraph it has
[00:25:23] eight sub-points, points, right,
[00:25:26] eight, paragraph two has eight points where the situations
[00:25:30] of mm abuse of public funds
[00:25:34] and resources are widely explained, so you would have to have
[00:25:38] teams of investigators, inspectors who would, for example,
[00:25:42] abuse of public funds in terms of using
[00:25:45] helicopters, cars and so on, the vehicle
[00:25:48] fleet or I don't know. people who do that
[00:25:51] so-called official campaign,
[00:25:54] so the short answer is, as many
[00:25:58] people as we have available, because we were given, you know, the High Representative
[00:26:02] gave us new tasks, new norms, mhm, new
[00:26:06] obligations, the organization and systematization
[00:26:09] from 20 years ago remained, yes, but they say that you are more tolerant than in
[00:26:13] previous ones, no, we simply can't keep up, if you have 200 cases, you understand
[00:26:17] currently and every day 10 new ones come and so on, and
[00:26:20] you have a limited number of I don't know, five lawyers, you simply
[00:26:24] can't keep up with that, so with all due respect and
[00:26:27] consideration and it is probably true
[00:26:30] that 99% of them are right when they criticize
[00:26:33] this, but simply, one should
[00:26:36] face reality, because in order for you to perform, you must
[00:26:40] fulfill, as I say, in English, LBP, so
[00:26:43] you have law, you have law, you have budget, you have money, as
[00:26:47] the former president provided us, but the third thing, people,
[00:26:50] you don't have people and you are simply faced with what
[00:26:54] you have, mhm, and the last question for the end, just in a few
[00:26:57] sentences and because of numerous readers who sent us emails,
[00:27:01] let's try to clarify.
[00:27:03] You say you don't have people, we are talking about people, again, voters
[00:27:07] from the diaspora, you yourself said that you are disappointed
[00:27:10] with the turnout, even 20,000 fewer citizens will
[00:27:13] vote in these elections compared to the general elections in 2022
[00:27:17] from the diaspora, certain groups from the diaspora even wrote to
[00:27:21] the European Union to try to somehow address the problem
[00:27:24] and solve it, very briefly how do you explain what
[00:27:27] happened? It is a conflict of several
[00:27:31] factors, so to speak. Several factors, one of one of
[00:27:34] those factors is that we introduced strict procedures that are really
[00:27:38] bureaucratic and so on, but we had to do it
[00:27:41] and the law gave us authorization
[00:27:45] for diaspora registration because we had all sorts of things, we had massive,
[00:27:50] addresses of gas stations, public institutions and so on and so
[00:27:54] on, so we in those
[00:27:57] procedures somewhat bureaucratized the whole thing, but
[00:28:01] we brought it to to this...
[00:28:04] to full legality, besides
[00:28:07] that there is this political factor, how much the political parties
[00:28:10] were engaged, right? Because we explain
[00:28:14] uh how to vote, we explain
[00:28:17] the procedure, but political entities should explain
[00:28:21] and communicate with voters in the diaspora to answer
[00:28:25] the question why to vote, why to vote for them, so there is also a responsibility there, we also have other factors,
[00:28:28] right, how much is the participation of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, our embassies and so
[00:28:32] on, we don't have a single example that in the embassy
[00:28:36] mm assistance
[00:28:39] to our citizens in the diaspora for registration is provided, we didn't
[00:28:42] notice that, so that you have on Saturday, it seems our ambassador in
[00:28:46] France announced
[00:28:47] and
[00:28:50] in a way issued a strong warning to the CEC, if I may say so,
[00:28:53] she says that citizens in France had technical problems
[00:28:57] and rejections because of what they submitted in the form of bills,
[00:29:01] payment for utility services. "as proof that it's them, that they live at that
[00:29:05] address, that's strictly prescribed, you know, you must have a certificate from
[00:29:08] the host country that you live at that address,
[00:29:12] meaning, and in different countries it
[00:29:15] is very, very clearly specified, for example
[00:29:19] a driver's license in Australia has a home
[00:29:22] address on it, that's sufficient proof, but already
[00:29:25] some statement, certificate and so on is
[00:29:27] less verifiable, there must be
[00:29:31] a clear law." for the future, it should be, it's already late and
[00:29:34] let me tell you right away, we had a lot of complaints, the regular
[00:29:38] court, today we receive confirmations, the court confirms the decisions
[00:29:42] of the Central Election Commission, so, uh,
[00:29:45] some people are not right who
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