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[00:02:04] Good afternoon, I am Dušan Mlađenović, you are watching the special N1
[00:02:08] live broadcast on the occasion of the visit of Ukrainian President Volodymyr
[00:02:11] Zelensky. This is his first visit to Serbia and at this
[00:02:15] moment, meetings of delegations are underway. Previously, a
[00:02:19] ceremonial welcome was organized in front of the Palace of Serbia. Last night, Volodymyr Zelensky stated on his X
[00:02:22] account that the main topics would be economic
[00:02:26] relations, relations with the European Union, but all other issues
[00:02:29] that... could improve relations between the two countries, including
[00:02:33] security. Although the delivery of weapons is never
[00:02:36] officially discussed, there are indications that military
[00:02:39] cooperation will be discussed. Zelensky and Vučić had a bilateral
[00:02:43] meeting last night. In the next little over two hours, we will analyze
[00:02:47] this visit, military and political relations between the two countries,
[00:02:50] potential reactions from Brussels and Moscow. We will also follow
[00:02:54] the address of the two presidents from the Palace of Serbia.
[00:02:57] We're going there at the beginning of the show. where is
[00:03:00] our colleague
[00:03:01] Aleksandra,
[00:03:05] Aleksandra, what did the
[00:03:08] Serbia, given the ceremonial welcome look like and what is expected from the meeting of
[00:03:11] delegations, the meeting of the two
[00:03:13] presidents, we know what some of the announced
[00:03:17] topics are, but what could be the topics that were not
[00:03:20] announced?
[00:03:24] Dušan, so the meeting took place
[00:03:27] with understandably increased security measures. with
[00:03:30] helicopters flying overhead, as we saw in the
[00:03:33] footage, the President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky arrived and was
[00:03:37] received by the President of Serbia Aleksandar Vučić,
[00:03:41] the Ukrainian anthem was played, followed by the Serbian anthem,
[00:03:44] then a review of the guard of honor was carried out, there was
[00:03:48] no ceremonial firing this time, as for the
[00:03:51] flags in the city, yes, there were Ukrainian
[00:03:55] flags, but far more modest, perhaps more discreet than was the
[00:03:59] case during... visits of delegations from some
[00:04:02] other countries, the composition of the delegation indicates
[00:04:06] that the main topic of discussion will actually be
[00:04:09] economic cooperation, it will actually be joint cooperation in
[00:04:12] European integration, which is the proclaimed goal of both
[00:04:16] countries, both Serbia and Ukraine, also that
[00:04:20] there will be talk of uh
[00:04:23] security on the other hand and the only memorandum that has been announced to be
[00:04:26] signed concerns precisely the security uh...
[00:04:30] side, such a visit, therefore for the first time since he became
[00:04:33] president, for the first time since the large-scale war began
[00:04:37] in Ukraine for the Ukrainian president to come to Serbia, of course
[00:04:40] the signing of such a memorandum
[00:04:43] is not too big a task
[00:04:47] or reason for the President of Ukraine, a wartime
[00:04:50] president, to come to our country, but there must be
[00:04:53] something that will be signed, I mentioned the composition of
[00:04:56] the delegations, so there is the Minister of Energy, the Minister of Trade,
[00:05:00] there is the Minister of Agriculture on our side, on
[00:05:03] the Ukrainian side there are no ministers, but there are members of
[00:05:07] the cabinet of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, there is
[00:05:10] an experienced diplomat who knows these regions very well, Serhiy
[00:05:14] Kyslytsya, then there is Oleksiy Sobolev, who was Minister of Economy, and
[00:05:18] is now in the President's cabinet recently, after these latest changes
[00:05:22] in the Ukrainian, Ukrainian
[00:05:25] government, and there is Ihor Zhovkva, also a member
[00:05:28] of the cabinet who is in charge of
[00:05:31] European integration. So, yes, there is
[00:05:35] interest from the Ukrainian side for greater
[00:05:38] economic cooperation, which is currently somewhere
[00:05:42] on our. side, on Serbia's side, I think it's
[00:05:45] about 345 million dollars in the first half of
[00:05:48] 2006, we know that Ukrainians want to
[00:05:52] sign a free trade agreement with Serbia,
[00:05:55] which has not existed all these years since Ukraine became an
[00:05:59] independent state in '91. And of course,
[00:06:03] that is the question of all questions, the question that
[00:06:06] has never been officially confirmed, that is the question
[00:06:09] of armaments. We know from indirect sources. from writing, for
[00:06:13] example, the Financial Times in 2024, that by
[00:06:16] then, from Serbia, armaments worth between
[00:06:20] 800 million and
[00:06:23] one billion dollars had ended up
[00:06:26] on the Ukrainian battlefield. So, we're talking about multiple rocket launchers, we're actually talking about
[00:06:29] Soviet caliber armaments that
[00:06:32] Ukraine used a lot at the very beginning
[00:06:36] of the war. Now some Ukrainian analysts and military analysts say
[00:06:40] that there is not such a need for... that type of
[00:06:43] armaments given that the way of warfare has changed, it has
[00:06:46] moved to drone warfare and Ukraine at this
[00:06:49] moment is an absolute leader in Europe in
[00:06:53] the production of various types
[00:06:56] of drones, innovations in that sphere and that is
[00:06:59] what was mentioned in the extensive article by
[00:07:03] journalist Mihael Martens from Frankfurter
[00:07:06] Allgemeine Zeitung who again referred to Christopher Hill, otherwise
[00:07:10] a former ambassador here in Serbia who first officially. confirmed that Serbia
[00:07:14] really, through third parties, of course, massively exported
[00:07:17] armaments to Ukraine, so in that
[00:07:20] article it is said that there could be talk
[00:07:23] of uh joint production of drones or some
[00:07:26] kind of agreement in that sense where, for
[00:07:30] example, Serbia could get know- how, we know from some previous
[00:07:34] visits of Zelensky to other countries in Europe, but in the Middle East that
[00:07:37] Ukraine can actually sell its
[00:07:40] technology to. interested parties are, after all, primarily in
[00:07:44] Europe, to form a joint
[00:07:47] defense, how Serbia fits into this is a big
[00:07:51] question, the official composition of the delegations does not suggest
[00:07:54] that this could primarily be the topic, because, for
[00:07:58] example, Pavle Pavlica is not here, who is a
[00:08:01] brigadier general who participated in the battle for
[00:08:04] Bakhmut, his presence, for example, would indicate that the primary
[00:08:08] topic is joint defense, but that does not mean that this
[00:08:12] topic. is not discussed, that does not mean that this topic, for example, was not discussed
[00:08:15] yesterday during the gala dinner at Villa Mir, which
[00:08:19] was hosted by the Serbian president in honor of the Ukrainian
[00:08:23] president. As you mentioned,
[00:08:27] the composition of the delegations indicates that the announced
[00:08:30] topics will be discussed, uh, we assume then that
[00:08:34] the two presidents discussed how much
[00:08:37] it is uh actually customary for those
[00:08:40] so to speak uh most... important issues, most sensitive
[00:08:44] issues to actually be discussed at the highest level
[00:08:47] in this case for the two presidents to discuss
[00:08:51] this, especially uh knowing that
[00:08:53] uh Volodymyr Zelensky often has meetings with
[00:08:57] European leaders, with whom he precisely discusses these
[00:09:00] most sensitive
[00:09:01] matters,
[00:09:05] it is customary, we live in unusual times, so yes, it is customary,
[00:09:08] of course in such situations there would have to be contacts
[00:09:12] between experts, between delegations, but yes,
[00:09:16] so what we have seen for the last year
[00:09:18] at a minimum, is that there is an accelerated
[00:09:22] need in Europe as a continent, meaning European
[00:09:25] countries, to form a defense, to arm themselves, to
[00:09:28] raise the level of arms production, a lot of that has already
[00:09:32] been spent on the front lines in Ukraine, and also the change in
[00:09:35] Washington, i.e. the election of
[00:09:38] Donald Trump as president
[00:09:41] of the United States of America has largely left Europe to
[00:09:45] fend for itself, and Ukraine
[00:09:49] must also fend for itself to some extent along with
[00:09:53] Europe, so yes, it would be customary for two presidents
[00:09:56] to discuss, to negotiate such a level
[00:09:59] of cooperation, extremely sensitive cooperation, it would also be
[00:10:03] customary, given the position that Serbia
[00:10:06] occupies, not to publicly discuss
[00:10:10] it. So, Serbia has from the very beginning condemned Russia's
[00:10:13] aggression against Ukraine, openly says, publicly,
[00:10:17] President of Serbia Aleksandar Vučić says it every time that
[00:10:21] he respects the territorial integrity. uh sovereignty of Ukraine,
[00:10:25] so that means that he does not recognize Crimea, that he does not recognize the four regions that
[00:10:29] Russia additionally annexed
[00:10:32] in 2022, but
[00:10:35] at the same time that he does not want to impose sanctions, so there is also a proclaimed military
[00:10:39] neutrality in such a situation, unless the policy changes
[00:10:44] on topics of military cooperation in terms of drone production, for
[00:10:48] example, or direct sales of weapons,
[00:10:51] so officially it is not to be expected that
[00:10:55] any of the participants in such talks would publicly
[00:10:58] state it, after all, when it was happening at the very beginning of the war
[00:11:02] and when footage and
[00:11:04] photographs of uh rockets produced in
[00:11:07] Krušik with dates, i.e. serial numbers that
[00:11:11] indicated that they were newly produced, i.e. that it was not some stock, then it was
[00:11:14] denied, only for the president of Serbia Aleksandar Vučić to say
[00:11:18] at one point that we don't
[00:11:21] know where it ends up, we sold it regularly. for
[00:11:25] example, to the Czech Republic or the United States of America, who do not use that caliber at all in their army, and where it ultimately
[00:11:29] ended up, that is actually not our
[00:11:33] concern. Aleksandra,
[00:11:36] thank you very much, Aleksandra continues to
[00:11:39] follow Volodymyr Zelensky's visit and we will see her
[00:11:42] later. Now let's go to our
[00:11:46] Anđela Čolanić, who is in front of the Palace of
[00:11:49] Serbia, Anđela, unlike some other
[00:11:52] visits when the flags of the countries. as Aleksandra said,
[00:11:56] where the guests came from, were displayed all the way from the airport to
[00:12:00] the city center, this time that is not the case, but for example, the flag
[00:12:03] was displayed on the Belgrade Tower,
[00:12:06] the flag of Ukraine, so how does the city look and what do
[00:12:10] people in Belgrade say about Zelensky's
[00:12:12] visit?
[00:12:16] Uh, that's right, now it's uh calm in front of the Palace of Serbia
[00:12:20] where we are currently located, a little over half
[00:12:23] an hour ago, the Ukrainian president
[00:12:25] was welcomed in front of the Palace of Serbia
[00:12:28] with the anthem of Ukraine, and then the anthem of
[00:12:31] Bože Pravde, i.e. the anthem of
[00:12:35] Serbia, after the Ukrainian and Serbian presidents
[00:12:39] entered the Palace of Serbia where they will continue the rest of the program
[00:12:42] and discussions,
[00:12:45] the choir, i.e. the orchestra of the Serbian Army, the guard
[00:12:48] and the rest of the members of the Serbian army withdrew
[00:12:52] from the plateau.
[00:12:55] The palace, members of the police remained to patrol
[00:12:58] in the surrounding streets near
[00:13:02] the Palace of Serbia, where security measures are still increased,
[00:13:05] at the very moment when the Ukrainian
[00:13:09] president was arriving, it was not possible to pass
[00:13:12] even on the sidewalk near the Palace of Serbia
[00:13:16] in the surrounding streets, police officers escorted citizens to
[00:13:20] the surrounding streets, traffic was also suspended for
[00:13:23] about half an hour. The palace and it is
[00:13:26] now running smoothly in all directions and surrounding
[00:13:30] streets around the Palace of
[00:13:33] complex relations between Ukraine,
[00:13:37] Serbia and Russia, we spoke to citizens yesterday,
[00:13:40] we asked them what they expect from the arrival of
[00:13:44] the Ukrainian president, how they view him and
[00:13:47] I suggest we listen to what they told us. How do you
[00:13:51] view this visit? Well, negatively.
[00:13:53] Why? Well, because of everything that is happening, in what
[00:13:57] context is the visit negative for you? Well, because I think
[00:14:01] we have better friends, who are our better friends? Well, we know
[00:14:04] who, he is uh persona non grata for Belgrade, well,
[00:14:08] he came, he came, I don't see any problem, and
[00:14:12] why at this very moment the visit?
[00:14:15] He goes everywhere, as far as I watch TV, he goes everywhere he
[00:14:18] can, to get any help, and should
[00:14:22] Serbia help now, humanitarian aid to Ukraine, what do you think about that? Well, let me tell
[00:14:26] you, all countries that are attacked, this one that
[00:14:29] are defending themselves from the aggressor, should be on their side, in
[00:14:33] principle, this, what form of aid it is, each country should
[00:14:36] determine that, what will it bring to our politics? Well, it depends, it depends on how
[00:14:40] much weapons
[00:14:40] we will sell.
[00:14:45] So the citizens with whom we spoke generally
[00:14:48] believe that Serbia should remain neutral
[00:14:51] in the Ukraine-Russia relationship.
[00:14:55] and 100 public figures, including professors and
[00:14:59] cultural workers, yesterday uh signed
[00:15:02] a letter of protest, i.e. a statement of protest
[00:15:05] in which they oppose the arrival
[00:15:08] of the invitation of the Ukrainian president to visit
[00:15:11] Serbia for the first time since the beginning
[00:15:15] of the war between Russia and Ukraine.
[00:15:18] Uh, on the other hand, Ukrainians and Russians
[00:15:21] united against the war
[00:15:24] for... Radio Free Europe yesterday
[00:15:26] commented that they hope that this
[00:15:30] visit will actually lead to an improvement in relations
[00:15:34] between Ukraine and Serbia, what Aleksandra also
[00:15:37] on the topic mentioned is that today,
[00:15:39] the Ukrainian and Serbian presidents will discuss
[00:15:46] of security, among other things, President Vučić mentioned that
[00:15:49] energy will be discussed, they will discuss
[00:15:52] European integration, given that both states
[00:15:56] have uh similar problems on the path to
[00:15:59] joining the European Union, what is also
[00:16:03] important to mention is that this is the first visit
[00:16:06] of the Ukrainian... president and there is little, as you mentioned
[00:16:10] at the beginning, that allows us to conclude that he is visiting
[00:16:13] Serbia, our team this morning uh
[00:16:16] went through the city, we uh noticed only
[00:16:20] here uh directly near the Palace of Serbia
[00:16:23] and in the streets of Anti-Fascist Struggle and Spanish
[00:16:26] Fighters that Ukrainian flags were displayed
[00:16:29] while they can barely be seen anywhere else
[00:16:32] in the city, the Ukrainian flag that was displayed last night
[00:16:36] on the tower, you mentioned that, and there are also
[00:16:39] Russian symbols in the city, we managed to notice that
[00:16:42] yesterday, so the Gazprom
[00:16:45] billboard also remained, which says "together" and
[00:16:49] refers to Serbia and Russia, the negotiations,
[00:16:53] i.e. the talks between the Ukrainian and Serbian presidents
[00:16:56] will last until about 12 o'clock, at
[00:16:59] 12:05, they are expected to uh address
[00:17:02] the media together, in front of the palace it's calm
[00:17:05] for now, what is important for all citizens
[00:17:08] heading to New Belgrade is that traffic is currently
[00:17:11] flowing unimpeded.
[00:17:14] Thank you, Anđela. Anđela Čolanić is monitoring the situation
[00:17:17] in front of the Palace of Serbia. And yes, as Anđela said,
[00:17:21] the first image that Volodymyr Zelensky saw upon
[00:17:24] entering Belgrade was that Gazprom billboard with
[00:17:28] joined Russian and Serbian flags that read
[00:17:31] "together." So the delegation meeting
[00:17:34] is underway. In the Palace of Serbia, it is expected that at
[00:17:38] 12:00 the two presidents will address
[00:17:41] the media, we will follow all of that, and now we return after
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[00:24:53] visit to Serbia, we continue
[00:24:57] the analysis of this visit, I am now talking to Oleksandr
[00:25:01] Levchenko, who is the former consul of Ukraine in Belgrade, as well as
[00:25:04] the former ambassador of Ukraine to Bosnia and Herzegovina and Croatia,
[00:25:08] Mr. Levchenko, thank you for speaking to
[00:25:11] N1. Thank you for the invitation, respect
[00:25:15] to you and the viewers, how do you see this visit,
[00:25:19] the topics that were... announced, we assume and we talked about that
[00:25:22] in the previous minutes that some topics will be
[00:25:25] unannounced, this primarily refers to
[00:25:29] military cooperation, how do you evaluate this
[00:25:31] visit? Well, very good, after all,
[00:25:35] our head of state has not been in Serbia for nine years, it's time for
[00:25:39] Zelensky to come to
[00:25:43] Belgrade, President Vučić was already twice in
[00:25:47] Ukraine last year in Odesa.
[00:26:02] countries of Southeast Europe. So
[00:26:05] now this is a very important visit
[00:26:09] to the Republic of Serbia. I think that all
[00:26:12] the topics that the presidents will discuss
[00:26:15] have bilateral interest for two
[00:26:18] nations that have their
[00:26:22] long history of cultural
[00:26:26] ties, economic cooperation
[00:26:29] and human contact.
[00:26:35] these meetings, especially this year in
[00:26:39] Ukraine, but Aleksandar Vučić is the only European leader
[00:26:42] uh who did not
[00:26:45] declarations, especially the one in Kyiv, so who did not
[00:26:49] join uh the condemnations of uh Russia,
[00:26:53] however, uh Zelensky comes
[00:26:56] to such a leader, what kind of
[00:26:59] message is that then, what message is Zelensky sending?
[00:27:03] Uh, and why then does he come to
[00:27:05] Belgrade if it is known uh what
[00:27:08] kind of relationship Belgrade has with Moscow?
[00:27:12] Well, Belgrade has its relations with Moscow
[00:27:15] and Belgrade has its relations with Ukraine, that should not be
[00:27:19] mixed up and it is important that these relations are
[00:27:22] in the interest of our two countries, we have
[00:27:26] something to say about our European
[00:27:29] path, meaning Ukraine and Serbia
[00:27:32] are moving towards joining the European Union, that is important
[00:27:36] and we have somewhat similar
[00:27:39] views on negotiations with our European
[00:27:42] partners and how difficult it is to open chapters,
[00:27:46] especially even more difficult to close negotiating
[00:27:49] chapters, we always have
[00:27:53] communication, cooperation, we are slowly moving
[00:27:57] towards signing a free
[00:27:59] trade area agreement.
[00:28:33] about the politics that official Moscow pursues, it is
[00:28:36] unfortunately aggressive, created not only against
[00:28:39] Ukraine, but Europe also feels
[00:28:42] the danger of future Russian
[00:28:46] aggression and just in case some things
[00:28:49] need to be agreed upon, discussed
[00:28:52] and resolved at the level of heads of state, that would be
[00:28:55] good, study
[00:28:58] uh topics, we heard what will be officially
[00:29:01] here. What is unofficially mentioned
[00:29:05] is military cooperation, German media
[00:29:08] say that Ukraine might even want to
[00:29:12] open a drone factory with Serbia, we also heard
[00:29:15] those allegations from the Frankfurt Allgemeine Zeitung
[00:29:18] uh that Christopher Hill, the former ambassador of the United States of
[00:29:22] America to Serbia, was a mediator in relations
[00:29:25] between Kyiv and Belgrade,
[00:29:28] how do you see that
[00:29:31] possibility that. therefore there is no military cooperation for now, of course no
[00:29:35] confirmation of direct trade, but Belgrade has
[00:29:39] admitted that it is possible for weapons to end up in Ukraine via third
[00:29:42] countries. Well, we'll see, we'll see
[00:29:46] what we can do, directly or indirectly, in any
[00:29:49] case you mentioned drones, I don't know if
[00:29:52] this will be a topic, but
[00:29:55] Americans are building a factory for the production of Ukrainian
[00:29:58] drones, so imagine if it is. in Serbia, if
[00:30:02] Americans want it, I think it would be
[00:30:05] good, in any case and
[00:30:08] the countries of the Gulf have already
[00:30:12] bought huge quantities of Ukrainian drones
[00:30:14] that help them repel these
[00:30:18] attacks of Iranian drones, in any case
[00:30:21] European countries, many European countries are looking for
[00:30:25] Ukrainian drones which are really effective and which have also
[00:30:28] somewhat turned the tide of this
[00:30:32] war and in any
[00:30:36] case they help us
[00:30:39] fight, now 90% of Russian
[00:30:43] losses are from drones, meaning Ukrainian drones, and
[00:30:46] Russia has already lost a million 5000
[00:30:50] soldiers, one million 5000
[00:30:52] soldiers,
[00:30:54] 12,250 tanks,
[00:30:58] 250 armored vehicles.