N1BOS — broadcast 20260810 083000 UTC 320 transcript segments Google Cloud Speech-to-Text API (Chirp) + Gemini 2.5 Flash Non-Thinking Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:00:00] megawatts of electricity, production capacities for electricity, [00:00:04] of which 2.00 MW in hydro, 2. [00:00:07] MW in thermal, but production in thermal power plants [00:00:11] was 60 to 70%, because they [00:00:14] work more hours than hydroelectric power plants, mm-hmm, [00:00:18] depending on the hydrological year, what it's like, what the [00:00:21] precipitation is, uh uh, so that went up to [00:00:25] 70% from thermal power plants, in good hydrologies, [00:00:28] 50 something. Mm-hmm, after [00:00:31] the war, the private sector built [00:00:34] 1600 MW of new capacities, 300 [00:00:38] MW of thermal power plants in Stanari, [00:00:41] then over 900 MW of solar power plants [00:00:44] on the transmission and distribution [00:00:47] grid, about 300 MW [00:00:50] of wind farms and 100 MW of small [00:00:53] hydropower plants, so most of the solar are 900 MW, [00:00:57] most of it, well, privately owned. [00:01:01] Built, and the state public sector, I mean, the electric power companies [00:01:04] did not build a single kW of [00:01:07] solar energy, but only production of existing and [00:01:11] consumption of existing capacities and work on existing capacities, there are [00:01:14] also, for example, wind farms, uh [00:01:17] the electric power company built Podveležje, the electric power company in Mostar [00:01:21] built Mesihovina and the electric power company in Mostar [00:01:24] built two hydroelectric power plants, Mostarsko Blato and [00:01:27] Tihaljina, these other capacities. They were not, even though they were [00:01:31] projected, even though all the preconditions for building them exist, they [00:01:35] are still not being built today. After all, what does that [00:01:37] mean, Mr. Bičakčić, in conditions when we are moving towards solving dirty [00:01:41] energy, when we will pay penalties for CO2, when our [00:01:45] thermal power plants are being shut down, uh, did we [00:01:49] start shutting down something from which we get energy [00:01:52] too early? Ah, we have completely given up [00:01:56] on thermal power plants, i.e., [00:01:59] on the mines in the area that provide coal, so that [00:02:02] production from four years ago has been reduced from 6 million [00:02:06] tons to 3 million tons and [00:02:09] lower. We will not achieve production of 3 [00:02:13] million tons this year in the mines in the Federation. What does that mean? [00:02:16] And it means that the electric power company in Sarajevo [00:02:20] is an importer of electricity and one terawatt, [00:02:23] that's a million kilowatts, [00:02:26] uh, a thousand - GWh of electricity is imported [00:02:30] annually, the Sarajevo electric power company, the Sarajevo [00:02:33] electric power company imports 500,000 from Trebinje, [00:02:37] the Mostar electric power company is approximately [00:02:40] balanced at zero, so [00:02:43] we are now importers from exporters, we have become importers [00:02:47] of electricity, absolutely, that, that is a phenomenon that [00:02:51] happened, although when we look at Bosnia and Herzegovina as [00:02:54] a whole with the private sector, we are still [00:02:57] exporters of electricity, it's one of the few in the [00:03:01] Southeast Balkans, because these new [00:03:05] facilities, which all go for export, are producing, although [00:03:08] export is difficult, but for example, on Friday, prices on [00:03:12] the stock exchange for daily uh purchase were [00:03:15] 230 euros per megawatt, that is four [00:03:19] times more than standard, and if [00:03:22] you sell it in the evening when solar power plants [00:03:25] are shut down, then the price goes up to 500 euros per [00:03:28] megawatt, that's... um, that's a jump, the stock exchange [00:03:32] reacts immediately and you have to buy [00:03:35] expensive electricity which practically [00:03:39] doesn't exist, not enough. At what prices do we [00:03:42] buy when we import? Look at the Sarajevo and Trebinje electric power companies, if you [00:03:45] say that, so that we can clarify for [00:03:48] our viewers, that energy that we sell at [00:03:52] high prices is sold by private companies, i.e., [00:03:55] those made on their own initiative, those 1600 MWh that they [00:03:58] made since the war. And [00:04:02] actually, uh the public sector, which has not built these [00:04:06] installed capacities, imports for the needs of its [00:04:09] citizens of Sarajevo, Trebinje, through these [00:04:12] electric power companies, at what price then? I hope [00:04:16] that they realized that import before these drastic [00:04:19] jumps on the stock market, in [00:04:22] the first half of the year, that price on the stock market was from 50 to [00:04:25] 80 euros per megawatt, it was relatively [00:04:29] good. And in those circumstances, it could be profitable, [00:04:33] today, whoever is forced to import, he will [00:04:37] pay dearly for it, I believe that [00:04:40] they can still produce [00:04:43] that amount of electricity today, [00:04:46] they can also buy all [00:04:50] the offered quantities that [00:04:53] the private sector offers them, but [00:04:56] especially the electric power company in Sarajevo for [00:04:59] this... year rejected small [00:05:02] producers with the explanation that [00:05:05] it was a complicated contract, that it was not [00:05:08] profitable for them, and they only took some large producers [00:05:12] with whom... it is easier and simpler for them to work, and [00:05:15] they refused to buy energy that was offered to them at [00:05:19] the doorstep at prices that are lower than market prices, which are [00:05:22] produced in the country, which are produced in the country. This is a [00:05:26] catastrophic policy, this is responsibility, someone once [00:05:30] asked me, [00:05:31] uh, [00:05:34] "is that even possible?" Well, you see it's possible. Who, Mr. [00:05:38] Bičakčić, based on your long-standing professional experience and looking [00:05:42] at these... trends now, who will pay [00:05:45] the highest price, first of the open market, second [00:05:48] of that import of electricity, where could [00:05:52] these prices go and how likely is it that social peace [00:05:55] will be able to be bought in the future, as has been done [00:05:59] until now, where is the limit when the public [00:06:02] sector will no longer be able to buy social peace, but we will [00:06:06] go according to market prices to acquire energy and citizens will [00:06:09] pay for energy? That should have been done [00:06:13] a long time ago. It was moving in that direction, but [00:06:16] it was quickly abandoned, because [00:06:19] it requires a responsible approach, responsible work, and responsible [00:06:23] management. People do not want to manage responsibly, they [00:06:26] want to be sure that they will not make a mistake, they will not [00:06:30] make a mistake if they do nothing, that's what it comes down to, and where has [00:06:34] that led us, that story? Well, it has led us to the point that [00:06:37] the electric power company in Sarajevo will show this [00:06:41] year several hundred million [00:06:44] in losses, that it has uncollected receivables [00:06:47] that are measured in billions, billions. Who are the biggest [00:06:51] debtors? Mm-hmm, who are the biggest debtors? And they are not [00:06:54] from the highest debtors are [00:06:58] again the public sector, there cannot [00:07:01] be [00:07:04] a consumer who does not pay for electricity [00:07:07] for two months, he must be disconnected and [00:07:11] resolve that issue in the future, otherwise [00:07:14] the substance is eaten which has already been largely consumed [00:07:17] in a way that coal was paid [00:07:21] in advance but was never delivered, and that on [00:07:24] that basis there is that dubious situation that the government [00:07:28] needs to resolve, and coal purchases are below market prices where the mines [00:07:31] are brought into a situation where they are not profitable, that pricing relationship also needs to be regulated [00:07:35] in Bosnia and Herzegovina in such a way that every [00:07:39] kilowatt-hour of uh every [00:07:41] ton of coal delivered to [00:07:45] thermal power plants is paid at market prices, and that electricity is also sold at [00:07:49] market prices. This cut, whoever takes it on, [00:07:52] someone will have to, and as far as I [00:07:55] can see, they are leaving it for the new government, in addition to a series [00:07:58] of other collective dubious issues, they have [00:08:01] that and this is why I believe [00:08:05] that they will move in that direction, but now it's a good time when the price [00:08:08] is 230 euros per megawatt, so it pays off many times over. [00:08:12] Additional production can be organized and [00:08:16] encouraged in some way, but no one is going in that direction. Who [00:08:20] will deal with the miners, how will they deal with those people who [00:08:24] in the Raspotočje pit, nine of them refuse to [00:08:27] come out, uh their [00:08:30] lives are threatened, in fact, people [00:08:33] cannot function on a daily basis, they are not receiving their [00:08:37] salary, three remaining salaries, or rather, three overdue salaries, have not [00:08:40] been paid to them. They were [00:08:42] promised uh a pension and [00:08:46] care under quotes, uh [00:08:49] and severance pay also has not been honored, and how [00:08:53] realistic is it that anyone will honor that plan that these people need [00:08:56] to be retrained, that they still have something to give in their [00:08:59] working life? Well, the question [00:09:03] of retirement or, for example, [00:09:07] the health care of miners are some priority issues [00:09:10] that need to be resolved. So that people can simply [00:09:14] exist, and all further [00:09:17] and that, that, that issue facing the [00:09:20] government, the government has possibilities, ways [00:09:23] to make certain [00:09:26] moves to calm the situation, [00:09:30] and therefore, uh [00:09:33] but future coal production must be market-based [00:09:37] and that needs to be set up immediately [00:09:41] and then clean up the accounts. Move forward, without that [00:09:44] it won't work, it won't end well, and [00:09:48] chaos will ensue, some may even manage well, [00:09:52] but the vast majority will indeed be harmed. [00:09:55] Yes, uh, when you talk about plans for [00:09:58] mines and what awaits us, 2050 is that ultimate deadline, [00:10:02] or rather, the limit when CO2 emissions should be completely [00:10:06] stopped. That's right, although we then have [00:10:08] 2026, Mr. Bičakčić, [00:10:12] have we given up too early, due to our [00:10:16] own lack of ideas, on some of [00:10:19] the largest energy producers in Bosnia? You are absolutely [00:10:21] right. In 25 years, every [00:10:25] piece of machinery can be paid off. Machinery [00:10:29] digs coal and hides and [00:10:31] removes overburden. We used to be able to do that with [00:10:35] Alija Sirotanović's shovels, today we can't do it with [00:10:39] the most modern excavators in the world. It just needs to be [00:10:42] done in an organized way and things will [00:10:45] start moving. We have coal, but we don't [00:10:48] mine it. So, there are no reserves, it's true there's [00:10:52] overburden now, we need to prepare for that. But [00:10:55] with an organized and honest approach, it can be quickly [00:10:59] and easily resolved. After all, by 2050, we will [00:11:03] have a problem with heating in Tuzla [00:11:07] because those [00:11:09] blocks are combined and they heat [00:11:13] a large number of residents. In fact, that [00:11:16] system is being expanded and an alternative needs to be found. Are these [00:11:20] gas power plants that will come as [00:11:24] a new energy source? Or are they perhaps even modular [00:11:27] nuclear reactors? We need to seriously work on this now and [00:11:30] prepare these alternatives so that we are ready to [00:11:34] welcome the year 2050. [00:11:37] In addition, if it's a combined cycle, then the [00:11:40] efficiency of that uh use is [00:11:44] 70%. If it's only electricity production, it's [00:11:47] a maximum of 40%. [00:11:50] So, we have justifications before the European [00:11:53] energy community for such things, but when I say we [00:11:56] are doing that transition, so [00:11:59] it must, that's why we are now exposed to this CBAM [00:12:03] additional taxes on electricity exports, [00:12:07] that again affects this private sector and exports and [00:12:10] success, we must create an ETS system [00:12:14] in the domestic system, we tax it so that it goes into [00:12:17] the revenue of our budget, so that it doesn't go into [00:12:20] the European budget, and no one forbids us from doing that immediately. [00:12:23] We are the only country that has not created [00:12:27] a stock exchange, we need an agency that will [00:12:30] certify green energy, because today all energy from Bosnia and [00:12:33] Herzegovina we pay taxed as [00:12:36] if it were a mix with a thermal power plant. Those who [00:12:40] produce from sun, wind, water, they can get a green [00:12:44] certificate and that [00:12:47] without exporting immediately, but [00:12:50] now there is a need for energy on the stock market, so now people are looking the other [00:12:54] way. Looking the other way, we have launched [00:12:57] an activity, it has been acknowledged that this [00:13:00] CBAM will be significantly softened and that they [00:13:04] will take into account the real mix that currently exists in Bosnia and [00:13:07] Herzegovina, where the share of thermal power plant production [00:13:10] has decreased, it has decreased due to a lack of coal, due to [00:13:14] malfunctions and due to the entry [00:13:16] of these uh uh renewable [00:13:19] producers. Can we get, can we get into a situation, here, mm, [00:13:23] where we are reliant on larger electricity producers so that [00:13:26] somehow we bring ourselves into [00:13:29] a position like the one Hungary has brought its [00:13:32] citizens into, relying on nuclear reactors, [00:13:36] that they have to make restrictions so that [00:13:39] a period that is very uncertain uh can be [00:13:43] colloquially speaking, overcome? Because uh [00:13:45] if [00:13:48] if we run out of sufficient electricity production during [00:13:52] energy, during droughts such as extreme [00:13:55] droughts, and at the same time we are already getting rid [00:13:58] of thermal power plants, what is left for us? How likely is it that in [00:14:02] the future we will come to a situation where we do not have [00:14:06] uh good enough diversification that can drive, we must take [00:14:10] into account that electricity consumption is growing, a large [00:14:13] number of air conditioners are being massively installed today, heat [00:14:17] pumps are being installed and everything that has an electric motor [00:14:20] drive, this reflects [00:14:24] an increase in lower electricity consumption [00:14:27] that needs to be met with new [00:14:30] production, and for these reasons there will be these [00:14:34] restrictions, for now, thanks, I say, uh, first [00:14:37] and foremost, to the good hydrology this year, [00:14:41] it's true there isn't any now but that's these two months, who knows what [00:14:44] autumn will be like, but still, I ask you about extreme droughts, [00:14:48] our reservoirs are full when you drive towards [00:14:51] Mostar, you drive past full ones, when you see that the [00:14:55] reservoirs are rapidly emptying, you will see that it means that [00:14:58] a crisis is coming, that this next measure is when [00:15:02] we use up those reservoirs, the next measure is reductions, [00:15:06] I hope that won't happen, there's [00:15:09] no real reason for it to happen, but [00:15:12] if you do nothing, it's inevitable. After [00:15:15] all, already for the third quarter, the price of gas is [00:15:19] 14% higher, and it's announced to be even higher in the autumn, so [00:15:22] even those who were still using [00:15:26] gas are switching to electricity in the meantime, [00:15:29] which is again a jump in electricity consumption, [00:15:32] there is no new production [00:15:35] and... the connection of these [00:15:39] private producers is very slow and difficult, [00:15:41] the electric power companies treat them as [00:15:45] some kind of competition, but that has [00:15:48] proven to be completely wrong, they could [00:15:51] now connect much faster and more, because people [00:15:55] have been waiting for years, not months, years, what [00:15:58] can be done immediately, not only companies and larger electricity producers [00:16:02] who are outside the public sector, but [00:16:04] individuals, [00:16:06] you saw how much we waited for everyone. That's right, for for some small solar panels that could [00:16:09] provide electricity, they haven't even [00:16:13] started, and the law from 23 years [00:16:17] ago exists, that's right, we are absolutely [00:20:46] skip that, Minela, we also saw shameful [00:20:50] scenes at the match in Banja Luka at the city stadium, the name [00:20:53] and surname of the convicted war criminal Ratko [00:20:57] Mladić were chanted, after which the match was interrupted for half an hour, the stand [00:21:00] where the most passionate fans of Borac were had to [00:21:04] be emptied, referee Admir Musić warned, [00:21:07] that is, the people who were involved in uh [00:21:11] the organization of the refereeing at that match and where they were dispensing justice, [00:21:14] warned that if it continued the match would be registered [00:21:18] 3:0 in favor. [00:21:20] Indeed, these are scenes that should [00:21:24] not happen at sports events, and [00:21:28] but, unfortunately, we can talk as much as we want, but sport [00:21:31] is, that is, politics is deeply incorporated into sport. Here, [00:21:35] there is a platform for these ugly [00:21:38] scenes and ugly images to be sent. 30 years after the war has passed, [00:21:42] we are still talking about something that is, as clear as [00:21:45] day, something that should not be re-examined. Uh [00:21:48] we continue to witness uh such things. One might even unfairly say that it's not [00:21:52] politics indoctrinated, but the indoctrination of evil [00:21:55] hatred, well, yes, certainly absolutely the ugliest form of [00:21:58] nationalism that exists, here on the field [00:22:02] it is, and I hope that we will not talk about these topics, [00:22:06] because this is still football, here goals are counted, [00:22:09] points are counted, so in the end, it is really [00:22:13] ugly when you represent a country and when you deny [00:22:16] international judgments, so this is in a way a denial, right... an attempt [00:22:20] to deny, of course, it can never be denied and international [00:22:23] judgments and everything that, unfortunately, we have been talking about [00:22:27] for 30 years after the war, we know that sport, what's worst, some