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[00:00:13] and despite promises and
[00:00:23] Good day, dear viewers, after three weeks of break, Dan
[00:00:26] uživo returns to the programming schedule of N1 television, but at a slightly different
[00:00:30] summer time, from 5 PM to 6:30 PM.
[00:00:34] We continue to deal with topics that mark the political, social,
[00:00:37] and cultural scene of Bosnia and Herzegovina. And speaking of
[00:00:40] that, our country could face restrictions in
[00:00:43] electricity supply if prolonged
[00:00:47] dry periods continue, while an additional problem is the long-standing
[00:00:50] postponement of energy transition and insufficient investments in new
[00:00:54] production capacities, experts warn.
[00:00:57] Domestic politicians are not dealing with this problem because the pre-election campaign
[00:01:01] is starting soon, in which other
[00:01:04] topics dominate, and just two months before the elections, the Una-Sana Canton could
[00:01:08] get a new government. Allegedly, a new majority has been agreed upon, which includes
[00:01:11] SDA, Pomak, the Party for Bosnia and Herzegovina, and the Democratic Front, while
[00:01:15] the SDP, People and Justice go into opposition,
[00:01:30] brown coal mine continues. Ten miners have not left the pit for the seventh day, and for
[00:01:33] today it has been announced that some more colleagues could join them.
[00:01:37] What are the reasons for the protest? Is there a possibility of an agreement, and
[00:01:40] what consequences could the escalation of dissatisfaction among miners have?
[00:01:44] We talk about that in today's
[00:01:46] show.
[00:01:50] About the current security situation, the incident in Bugojno during
[00:01:54] the visit of the President of Serbia, Aleksandar Vučić, to this city, challenges in
[00:01:58] the work of police agencies, and numerous other topics that are in the public
[00:02:02] focus, we talk with Federal Minister of Internal Affairs, Ramo
[00:02:06] Isak.
[00:02:10] About the events in the Doboj area, attacks on journalists, political
[00:02:13] processes, the attitude of citizens towards institutions, strengthening democratic
[00:02:17] culture, expectations from the upcoming elections, we speak with the president
[00:02:21] with the ministry at the of the Restart Srpska organization, Stefan
[00:02:22] Blakić.
[00:02:27] Ticket sales for the 32nd Sarajevo Film
[00:02:30] Festival have also started at the box office. The audience is already preparing for the biggest
[00:02:33] regional film event, and we are checking what the interest is for
[00:02:36] this year's program, what content the festival brings, and what
[00:02:40] the organizers expect from the upcoming edition of
[00:02:42] SFF.
[00:02:55] fever, tonight at Bijela Tabija, one of the most important
[00:02:59] artists of the regional music scene, Amira Medunjanin, will hold a concert. About music, tour
[00:03:03] confirmations, new projects, the interpretation of Sevdah, we talk with
[00:03:06] Amira towards the end of today's
[00:03:27] news on n1info.ba.
[00:03:30] Featured information at this moment, that today the Presidency of Bosnia
[00:03:34] and Herzegovina met, and discussed the agrément for the new American
[00:03:37] Ambassador, Ronald Johnson, a poor start for BiH swimmers at
[00:03:41] the European Championship, second to last and 57th place at
[00:03:44] the opening. A citizen of Bosnia and Herzegovina arrested at the Sitnica border crossing
[00:03:48] on an international warrant, also one of the featured
[00:03:51] news. Minister Lakić for N1 says, everything that was promised
[00:03:55] to the miners will be respected, our part of the job is done,
[00:03:58] 160 million convertible marks secured for
[00:04:02] the transition. To the miners in the Raspotočje pit, as we said just now,
[00:04:06] three members of the Trade Union Board of the Zenica Brown
[00:04:10] Coal Mine joined. These are just some of the selected, selected
[00:04:13] headlines on our portal at this
[00:04:15] moment.
[00:04:24] So, nine miners of the Zenica Brown Coal Mine spent their sixth night
[00:04:27] in the Raspotočje pit, refusing
[00:04:30] to leave until they receive written guarantees with exact dates for the payment
[00:04:34] of their due salaries. In the meantime, the Government of the Federation of Bosnia and
[00:04:37] Herzegovina and the competent federal ministry announced that
[00:04:41] funds have been secured for the payment of outstanding salaries to employees in the
[00:04:45] mine. According to the ministry, following the expected
[00:04:48] operational activation of World Bank project funds,
[00:04:51] in the coming days, approximately 3 million convertible marks should be allocated
[00:04:55] to cover unpaid salaries for miners. However, without a precise
[00:04:57] date, the miners do not want to leave
[00:05:01] the pit, and representatives of the trade union board will join them.
[00:05:05] Tatjana Drdić brings information from the scene.
[00:05:08] place. For a week now, more precisely six
[00:05:12] nights, the miners of the Zenica Brown Coal Mine have been in the
[00:05:15] Raspotočje pit in protest due to unpaid
[00:05:19] salaries. We remind you that the miners are owed May
[00:05:22] and June salaries, and another one is due,
[00:05:25] guarantees from the authorities that they would be paid last
[00:05:29] month, it did not happen. The Government of the Federation of Bosnia and
[00:05:33] Herzegovina and the relevant ministry announced that
[00:05:36] funds have been secured for the payment of outstanding salaries to the workers of the
[00:05:40] Zenica Brown Coal Mine, with an
[00:05:42] appeal to the miners to leave the pit for safety reasons. However, the miners
[00:05:46] rejected this proposal, stating that they
[00:05:49] have been holding dialogues for two years and that the miners in the
[00:05:52] pit asked for only one sentence, which is the date when the
[00:05:56] salaries will be paid. Therefore, three members of the
[00:05:59] trade union board of the Zenica Brown Coal Mine joined the miners
[00:06:03] in the pit. "I and two others from the board will
[00:06:07] join those people, because it was said that we would get an answer from
[00:06:11] the minister by 3 PM. Then we will join
[00:06:14] and unconditionally support those people and stay with them until
[00:06:17] a solution is found for this agony. The government has secured
[00:06:21] a World Bank loan in the amount of 160 million KM-s.
[00:06:25] We expect the effectiveness of this loan soon in the coming days,
[00:06:29] so everything that was planned will be paid
[00:06:32] to the miners. They know that very well. We communicated
[00:06:36] during the past few days, of course, advising
[00:06:39] not to expose themselves to such dangers and a
[00:06:43] kind of strike that happens in methane areas, because
[00:06:46] that, in our opinion, is very, very dangerous. So, everything that
[00:06:50] was promised, that will be done. And it is very important
[00:06:53] that we save every single job, and the government will really try,
[00:06:57] especially when it comes to the mining sector, that it be as agreed.
[00:07:00] For a year now, every month they promise, every
[00:07:04] month later, you can check, meaning the salary was never
[00:07:07] on the 25th as it is regulated, it was always the 26th,
[00:07:11] 27th, then the 5th, then the 10th, then a month later.
[00:07:14] The miners always had that patience, patience, and waited, "Oh,
[00:07:18] it will be," then stopped. We don't produce, maybe people will rather give to the comrades
[00:07:22] who maintain that energy system, but they have to think
[00:07:26] about us. And now this has overflowed the cup,
[00:07:29] which has overflowed the full cup, this, because we were at a meeting
[00:07:33] government of the federation above at the end of June, where we were firmly promised that
[00:07:37] the May salary would be paid by mid-July.
[00:07:41] At the end of July, the June salary will be paid,
[00:07:44] but here it is the 10th of August, and they still haven't given an exact date for when
[00:07:48] those salaries will be paid. The validation of health booklets has been temporarily
[00:07:52] enabled until September 6th, which is another
[00:07:55] problem because they don't know what will happen after that. We remind you that the
[00:07:59] Health Insurance Institute of the combined Doboj Canton demanded more than
[00:08:02] 1,075 million convertible marks from the three mines of the
[00:08:06] Elektroprivreda Bosnia and Herzegovina concern. The miners' problems
[00:08:09] are not from yesterday; they have been going on for a long time. However, as they themselves say, apart from
[00:08:13] their material existence, which is crucial,
[00:08:16] dignity is actually crucial, which is constantly
[00:08:20] violated by the competent representatives of the Government of the Federation of Bosnia
[00:08:24] and Herzegovina. Tatjana Drjić, N1
[00:08:27] Zenica.
[00:08:29] We continue with Dan uživo. After
[00:08:38] the incident that marked the visit of
[00:08:41] Serbian President Aleksandar Vučić to Bugojno, the public
[00:08:45] focused on issues of police agency coordination,
[00:08:49] adherence to security procedures, and the entry of MUP
[00:08:52] of Republika Srpska members into the territory of the Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina
[00:08:56] and vice versa. Federal Minister of Internal Affairs, Ramo Isak, is with us.
[00:08:59] Good day and welcome. Good day to you,
[00:09:02] good day to your viewers. It has been more than seven
[00:09:06] days since this event, but this topic is still dominant
[00:09:09] in the Bosnian-Herzegovinian and regional public, considering
[00:09:13] everything that happened. You said that the members
[00:09:17] of the Central Bosnian Canton MUP did everything in accordance with
[00:09:20] the law. On the other hand, your colleague, the Minister of Internal Affairs
[00:09:24] of Republika Srpska, Željko Budimir, says that there was no
[00:09:27] intention to conduct illegal activities, that an oversight
[00:09:31] occurred. Do you believe that explanation, given
[00:09:34] everything that happened that day? Well, you see, if we take into
[00:09:38] account the situation that was happening and the situations that happened in
[00:09:41] the last 15 years in Bosnia and Herzegovina, that
[00:09:45] is, the Federation and Republika Srpska, we cannot believe
[00:09:49] that thesis put forward by the esteemed colleague,
[00:09:52] but if we take into account that on the same day or
[00:09:56] the day after, the director of the RS police contacted
[00:10:00] the director of my federal police administration and contacted
[00:10:03] the director, uh, the director of, pardon,
[00:10:06] the commissioner of the Central Bosnian Canton and stated
[00:10:10] the same thing, let's say, we can understand
[00:10:14] that, we can understand that as an attempt
[00:10:17] to justify the actions that were taken, but in fact,
[00:10:21] which might have had something else in mind. I really must congratulate the commissioner
[00:10:26] of the Central Bosnian Canton, that is, the police of the Central Bosnian Canton, and
[00:10:30] the director of the federal police administration. I was informed on the same day,
[00:10:33] I was involved on the same day. The actions
[00:10:37] they carried out, the police of the Central Bosnian
[00:10:40] Canton, we can congratulate them. They acted professionally,
[00:10:43] competently, and showed that there is coordination between
[00:10:47] police bodies when it comes to the federation, that means Canton
[00:10:50] 10, the Central Bosnian Canton, and the federal
[00:10:53] police administration. And I think it might be good that
[00:10:57] something like this happened, so that those who have
[00:11:01] something completely different in mind see that the police in the federation
[00:11:04] are working professionally and competently. They showed
[00:11:08] great professionalism at this moment and quality, and
[00:11:12] you see, this was surely intended to cause something else, maybe an incident,
[00:11:15] maybe some some
[00:11:18] could actually have ended differently if they had reacted differently.
[00:11:21] You see, who would have been responsible for such a situation?
[00:11:25] Of course, those who came to the territory without
[00:11:28] consent, without proper notification,
[00:11:31] would have been responsible. Why, you see, the police of Republika
[00:11:34] Srpska could have simply informed the
[00:11:37] Federation that they have certain activities in Republika Srpska.
[00:11:41] We would have supported them and worked together; there would have been no problems.
[00:11:45] No, they tried to show some strength, some strictness,
[00:11:48] and in the end, they showed failures, lack of quality.
[00:11:51] They showed, ultimately, that
[00:11:55] Bosnia and Herzegovina has its own institutions,
[00:11:58] that the federal police in the federation are working competently
[00:12:02] in accordance with the law, that their goal is the safety
[00:12:05] of citizens, that their goal is a quality solution
[00:12:09] to problems, not to cause conflicts. At this moment, it
[00:12:12] would be most interesting, that means for politicians, because this is an election
[00:12:16] year, and so on, if the position
[00:12:19] of Minister of Internal Affairs of the Federation was held by someone who wants to
[00:12:23] engage in politicking, not to deal professionally with their duties,
[00:12:26] and had caused conflicts there, if they had arrested someone,
[00:12:30] perhaps probably someone
[00:12:32] else. Yes, many actually criticize the federal police,
[00:12:36] that is, the police of the Central Bosnian Canton, for not
[00:12:39] identifying all those people who were at that moment in that
[00:12:43] group. They did everything that was necessary; all individuals
[00:12:46] were identified, vehicles were identified, individuals were
[00:12:49] removed from the scene of the incident,
[00:12:53] uh... accompanied in accordance with
[00:12:57] the law, in accordance with procedures, meaning there are procedures for
[00:13:00] such matters. These were not ordinary citizens, this was not
[00:13:04] some activity that happened somewhere else; these are
[00:13:07] serious, these are serious matters. This was done well. We had
[00:13:11] a problem in Potočari, you know very well, and you know very
[00:13:15] well that it was determined, apart from some Bosniaks, that some
[00:13:19] Serbian services were involved in what happened, and they are just waiting
[00:13:22] to create such a situation so that something happens in the Federation, that is,
[00:13:26] Bosnia and Herzegovina. Their mistake is that every time they embark on such
[00:13:29] activities, these foreign parties are met by professionals who work in accordance
[00:13:33] with the law. You see, you remember Dodik well, who played and
[00:13:37] sang in the Presidency of Bosnia and Herzegovina while those governments were in power. Those
[00:13:41] governments are now criticizing something. Well, if they were capable, why didn't they solve it?
[00:13:45] And you remember the moment when by order of the Prosecutor's Office
[00:13:48] of the Court of Bosnia and Herzegovina, Dodik had a warrant in the Federation,
[00:13:51] he did not move until he made a deal with
[00:13:55] the Prosecutor's Office to allow him to come to court. The Prosecutor's Office, he did not move.
[00:13:59] That means these people are working professionally. Here's this
[00:14:02] incident and many other incidents that perhaps citizens don't even know about, which happened in
[00:14:06] the territories of both the Federation and Republika Srpska. What is
[00:14:09] happening? We are doing our job professionally. I say the police are working
[00:14:13] professionally and competently, and I congratulate the police on that.
[00:14:17] In this way, we can only resist all these possible,
[00:14:21] especially now there will be even more of it because this is an election year.
[00:14:25] Someone wants to create a crisis, just like these people in Herzegovina are creating
[00:14:28] a crisis with these fans, so they also tried to create some
[00:14:32] crisis, where it would escalate, lead to some problems, lead to
[00:14:36] arrests, perhaps even the use of weapons and so on, then they would
[00:14:39] send a message, "Look, the Federation is unsafe," that is, Bosnia and
[00:14:43] Herzegovina. No, it has been shown that the Federation is safe, that things are done
[00:14:47] in the way prescribed, and the procedures
[00:14:50] that are necessary, meaning all individuals are identified, it is known who, what
[00:14:54] is... how each unit belongs to all these people and so
[00:14:58] on, but we shouldn't bother the public
[00:15:01] with that. The important thing is, the public knows, and I received a large number
[00:15:05] of messages from citizens, congratulating on the professionally done job.
[00:15:09] I mean, to be honest, I was involved in all of it, but I don't need
[00:15:13] to be congratulated. The commissioner of the Central Bosnian
[00:15:16] Canton and all the police officers who were involved in
[00:15:20] that action should be congratulated. You mentioned Milorad Dodik. In one interview, you
[00:15:23] said that you put Dodik in his place, considering
[00:15:27] that, despite the fact that Dodik is no longer the president of Republika
[00:15:30] Srpska, he still manages almost all
[00:15:33] political processes, you'll agree with me on that, not only in Republika
[00:15:37] Srpska, but it seems in Bosnia and Herzegovina through his
[00:15:41] representatives. Is Dodik eliminated from political
[00:15:44] life? You see, we must be honest, Dodik has really
[00:15:47] been eliminated from political life. These are the last
[00:15:50] throes where certain structures that currently
[00:15:53] sit on the political scene, who are naturally in
[00:15:57] those positions thanks to Mr. Dodik, they still have
[00:16:01] that kind of relationship with Dodik, and so does the HDZ of Bosnia and Herzegovina.
[00:16:05] The HDZ of Bosnia and Herzegovina,
[00:16:09] the HDZ of Bosnia and Herzegovina, a political
[00:16:12] option that looks out for its own interest. They are not interested in Dodik; Dodik
[00:16:16] was an ideal partner for them at the time when they poisoned the public with claims that
[00:16:20] Croats were endangered. Croats fared best in
[00:16:23] the Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina, in Bosnia and Herzegovina. In Bosnia and Herzegovina,
[00:16:27] Bosniaks and Bosnian Muslims have suffered,
[00:16:30] however, Croats, if you draw the line, there are very few of them at this
[00:16:33] moment. "There are very few of them in the state of Bosnia and
[00:16:37] Herzegovina, there are very many of them in state, federal,
[00:16:41] and cantonal institutions, they represent
[00:16:44] 40% in the Federation thanks to those policies
[00:16:47] that existed before, they represent over 40%, we can
[00:16:51] say 50% of the people who are not there, how many are currently
[00:16:55] in the Federation, some censuses say that is why they were allegedly not
[00:16:58] published, that there are not even 10% of them in the Federation, that
[00:17:01] is, Bosnia and Herzegovina, people manage all possible resources."
[00:17:05] "Someone enabled them to do that and spoke
[00:17:07] of endangerment. Currently, in Bosnia and Herzegovina, the most
[00:17:11] endangered are Bosniaks, Bosnians, Muslims,
[00:17:14] people whose politics led them, and we were not endangered by either HDZ
[00:17:18] or Milorad Dodik, we were endangered by our
[00:17:21] Bosniak policy which continues, you see what it does, for the sole reason
[00:17:24] of holding onto positions. You see, two days ago,
[00:17:28] some portal published a political
[00:17:31] option that gives instructions to its members on what
[00:17:35] they will do."
[00:17:37] "They will spit on me. Now imagine what kind of policy it is that instructs its
[00:17:41] members to spit on me, my family, to build something for themselves.
[00:17:44] I will not spit on them; I will just tell them one
[00:17:47] thing: all those who held positions and performed
[00:17:51] duties while they were in power, all of them are at
[00:17:55] the prison gates. That means, but Bakir Izedbegović accuses
[00:17:58] the trio of surrendering very important ministries,
[00:18:01] institutions, and agreeing to political concessions to both
[00:18:05] HDZ and SNSD?" You see, if
[00:18:08] HDZ, if the trio married, they should be held accountable for that, all
[00:18:11] of us,
[00:18:13] of the Federation, all those who sit in positions should be
[00:18:16] held accountable for their part. If they did that, they should be
[00:18:20] held accountable. But if we, but if we take it mathematically, I'll answer
[00:18:24] you now, if we take mathematically the positions they held and the positions they
[00:18:28] hold now, that's not true. The SDA, that means, I'm speaking
[00:18:31] openly in your studio, the SDA gave everything to everyone just to stay
[00:18:35] in power, and to this day they would give up everything
[00:18:37] to return to power, but thank God they won't be in power
[00:18:41] because, you see, the citizens of Bosnia and Herzegovina, Bosnia
[00:18:45] and Herzegovina, recognized that policy they are leading. You cannot
[00:18:48] lead a policy of spitting, I never do that.
[00:18:52] A policy of spitting is not a good policy, a policy is about deeds. They brought
[00:18:56] the ministry I manage to the point of being shut down, they personally did. I didn't.
[00:19:00] That ministry is now the most effective, most stable, with
[00:19:03] the best salaries, with the best equipment, and it was on the verge of being shut down.
[00:19:07] The budget of this ministry, I don't know exactly, but what belongs to the
[00:19:10] ministry, not to other levels of government, was around
[00:19:14] 9 million. That same budget is now 29 million. What do I want
[00:19:17] to say, and so also the federal police administration and so on and so forth.
[00:19:21] Equipment, nothing. Wherever they were, whatever they did,
[00:19:24] they conceded. I was sitting in parliament when the
[00:19:27] question of appointing certain people arose, and
[00:19:31] these people from, "Please, come on, let us into power, we will immediately vote for it the same
[00:19:34] day." That means, you see, I sit there, I know those people... we know each other, we
[00:19:38] know each other. I've been sitting in parliaments, houses of peoples, and so on since 2006.
[00:19:41] I know how they thought then, and now they're calling people out. I was with them
[00:19:45] in government in 2018, 2022. Take everything they
[00:19:48] conceded to me when I was in power, take what I have now. That means everything they
[00:19:52] conceded to me, they are now calling out others for and blaming others for. No, they
[00:19:56] did that. And another thing, this policy they are pursuing now,
[00:19:59] this, you know, "spit, insult, and so
[00:20:02] on." Well, wait, we don't need to spit or insult, we just need to
[00:20:06] take what they did, and believe me,
[00:20:10] that party, after the death of the late President Alija Izetbegović, turned
[00:20:14] into a sort of lobby
[00:20:17] for personal interests; it's no longer a lobby for the state of Bosnia and
[00:20:20] Herzegovina, for the Bosniak people. No, they are, what Dodik is doing to the people
[00:20:24] in Republika Srpska, that is, to Serbs, and the damage he is causing to those
[00:20:28] people, these people have caused us even greater damage. So, you say, you were with one,
[00:20:31] now you're with the other in power,
[00:20:35] a different line. Who was more
[00:20:38] effective, let's say specifically in the field of economy?
[00:20:42] Izetbegović claims that the results of the trio are a humiliation for Bosniaks
[00:20:46] and an economic collapse. And
[00:20:48] you see, I see. I would be ashamed,
[00:20:52] I would be ashamed if I were a man who
[00:20:56] managed systems for 30 years and so on, brought this
[00:20:59] country to where it is now, and then I
[00:21:02] blame others. I cannot blame Izetbegović as I
[00:21:06] blame Izetbegović, but I blame all those who are around him and all those whom
[00:21:10] he appointed to positions. Do you want me to tell you the story of Novalić,
[00:21:13] how Novalić became prime minister, what he did
[00:21:16] privately, where he was, how he was physically removed from the position he was
[00:21:20] appointed to. Yes, yes, but what I want to tell you, and in the same way,
[00:21:23] I can tell you about every single SDA cadre. That means,
[00:21:27] those people looked out for their personal interests. You see if there are
[00:21:31] such people in these circles, I won't go into that. I can
[00:21:34] answer for myself. When I received information that a
[00:21:38] member of my political option who is part of our
[00:21:41] story is involved in some activities that are not in accordance with the law, I
[00:21:45] personally went to the federal police administration and reported that person,
[00:21:49] I personally, because I believed that a person who is committing illegal acts
[00:21:52] cannot be next to me. Mr. Izetbegović and the trio
[00:21:56] and all the others should have done that. No, I don't
[00:21:59] want to, I don't want to engage in politics, to cause
[00:22:03] harm, to work against my own people. It's like during
[00:22:06] the war, we turned our weapons and started shooting
[00:22:10] at each other, but it wasn't allowed, don't let's do that. You are already
[00:22:13] mentioning weapons. When there was talk of
[00:22:17] the arrest of Milorad Dodik, you asked the competent judicial
[00:22:21] institutions for a warrant for his
[00:22:25] arrest. Do you still believe today
[00:22:27] that this action would have been smart and realistically feasible,
[00:22:31] or would it have jeopardized, for example, the safety of
[00:22:34] police officers and citizens themselves? Well, you see, I must be
[00:22:37] honest, I worked in the service for about
[00:22:40] 20 years, my job was to arrest people who had
[00:22:44] warrants for their arrest, criminals, and so on.
[00:22:47] You see, there were no high-ranking
[00:22:50] political officials, I agree, there were high-ranking ones, not that
[00:22:54] high-ranking, but there were. We arrested politicians back then who were also in high
[00:22:58] positions. What I want to say, uh, at that
[00:23:01] time when I took over that job, I was
[00:23:04] ready to sacrifice my life to do the job I do, because
[00:23:08] every police officer sacrifices their life every day. Yes, but you wouldn't have
[00:23:12] sacrificed only your own, or rather jeopardized, but perhaps
[00:23:15] someone else's. I agree, I agree with you. You see, it's
[00:23:19] about assessment. Based on assessments, we get information whether an action can
[00:23:22] succeed or not. We then made all the necessary assessments.
[00:23:26] We then had information that we could carry out that action.
[00:23:30] You see, would something have happened or not? It would be inappropriate for me to say
[00:23:33] that the action would have succeeded 100%, that no one would have been harmed on either
[00:23:37] side. That would be unprofessional, because there are
[00:23:40] unforeseen circumstances, and those unforeseen circumstances cannot be
[00:23:43] known until the moment it happens. We did,
[00:23:46] that is, the authorities did... "I,
[00:23:50] the authorities did all the assessments. They informed me that they are ready to carry
[00:23:54] out the action with minimal problems,
[00:23:57] as they say, that it would be a minimum of minimums.
[00:24:01] And then we, naturally, when we got all that information,
[00:24:05] asked relevant people to allow us
[00:24:09] to carry out that action, that action would have been carried out, it would have been successful,
[00:24:12] Milorad Dodik would have been 100% deprived of freedom, now what else would have
[00:24:16] happened, that's the problem, those are the unforeseen things, that..." which
[00:24:20] we could not influence, I think, I think from this perspective and
[00:24:24] I must be extremely honest, that if certain institutions had done
[00:24:27] their job well, then this way it was done is better
[00:24:31] than that way, that we then, but you see, we were
[00:24:35] then forced to offer, this, to do
[00:24:38] it because everyone was silent then and everyone at one
[00:24:42] point, we can be honest, worked against
[00:24:46] the interests of the state, no one should allow someone to threaten
[00:24:49] the state, Milorad Dodik at that moment threatened both the state,
[00:24:52] and the security of the state, the order and everything else that is
[00:24:56] in some way impermissible. We, who work in positions where we worked,
[00:25:00] had an obligation to, uh,
[00:25:03] to demand to do what we demanded and I'm glad that we
[00:25:07] were ready, because you see this, you must understand, prevention is
[00:25:11] the strongest weapon, we acted preventively in a way that
[00:25:14] he was not allowed to move around the territory of the federation, because he knew he would be
[00:25:18] deprived, that pressure which we exerted,
[00:25:21] joint coordination of both cantonal and federal
[00:25:25] police forces and so on, in a way forced
[00:25:29] Mr. Dodik, because at that moment he saw that it was no longer
[00:25:32] that thing, you know, playing the accordion, playing in the presidency, insulting
[00:25:36] the former president, his son on the other side with that
[00:25:39] strongest political option doing nothing, now some people
[00:25:43] have come who don't allow you to set foot on the territory of this
[00:25:47] federation, let alone play something and behave like a hooligan.
[00:25:51] We forced him to offer himself to both
[00:25:54] the intelligence agency OSA and the prosecutor's office, the court of Bosnia
[00:25:58] and Herzegovina, to come to court to do what he did.
[00:26:02] And you see, that means we have a way that we did it by action,
[00:26:06] okay, we have a way that we did it in this way it was
[00:26:10] done, to be honest, I must be honest, it was not
[00:26:14] just the federal police administration and the federal ministry involved, it was not
[00:26:17] just the cantonal police involved, our
[00:26:21] intelligence agency was also involved, to which I also thank on this occasion because
[00:26:25] it played the main role in all these actions. You commented
[00:26:28] just now on the pre-election campaign that hasn't officially started yet, but
[00:26:32] definitely. definitely, when things are viewed realistically, the raising
[00:26:35] of national tensions is well underway.
[00:26:38] Uh, how do you comment on this
[00:26:41] vandalism in Međugorje, that incident that happened,
[00:26:45] is that actually part of that story? Yes, that is
[00:26:49] precisely part of that story, yes, that is precisely part of that story, you saw my reaction,
[00:26:54] I reacted immediately, no matter who it was about, I reacted, although we
[00:26:57] immediately had the formation that, I mean, we had
[00:27:01] the information. Yes, in what way?
[00:27:05] Well, simply certain police forces immediately reached the
[00:27:08] perpetrator, or rather the possible perpetrator, they
[00:27:12] informed us, we only asked for everything to be sped up, I congratulate
[00:27:15] the police who worked on that
[00:27:19] case, because with quality police work, I'm glad that
[00:27:22] in some way, slowly the police are emerging from the jaws
[00:27:25] of those negative policies and when certain matters are
[00:27:29] concerned, they strive to do their job professionally. The police
[00:27:33] work, but the judiciary works, well, you see, look, I must
[00:27:36] be honest, I always tried not to be, no,
[00:27:40] we have people in the judiciary who do their job professionally and well
[00:27:44] and to whom we congratulate. Majority or minority, well the problem is that
[00:27:48] it's somewhere half and half, that's the biggest problem, if they were the majority, I would be
[00:27:52] satisfied, we wouldn't have a problem, the state functions when you have a majority
[00:27:55] that works, but I must be honest, it's not like that, we have a large
[00:27:59] number of people working in the judiciary. "And
[00:28:02] surely in the near future there will be subjects of certain
[00:28:06] investigations, that means follow me, there will surely be subjects of certain
[00:28:10] investigations because, you see, we need to stop
[00:28:13] dealing with political matters and we need to
[00:28:16] stop dealing with those unimportant things, we need to
[00:28:20] start working in the interest of our state, you see,
[00:28:23] if one person commits a certain criminal offense,
[00:28:27] if that criminal offense with preventive
[00:28:29] action, that is, in what way..." that
[00:28:33] the verdict should be maximal, that means not that they can go to the
[00:28:36] prosecutor, agree there when it's one year, probation, six
[00:28:40] months probation, the court confirms, well stop, you're sending
[00:28:44] a message to all other perpetrators of criminal offenses, come and we will
[00:28:47] agree on this, that's not the problem, it can't
[00:28:50] be like that, if the punishment is prescribed from one to three years,
[00:28:54] impose a three-year sentence, and believe me,
[00:28:57] when those perpetrators of criminal offenses see
[00:29:01] that maximum sentences are imposed, they will not be tempted to
[00:29:04] commit a new criminal offense again or
[00:29:08] to repeat it, and also people will not be tempted
[00:29:11] to do such acts, because they will say, wait a minute, we have to
[00:29:15] think, you see, institutions
[00:29:18] do their job, because when a country undergoes a transition, especially when you see
[00:29:22] it's sad that these transitions haven't been completed yet, it's been
[00:29:25] 30 years since the war, these transitions are done immediately after the war,
[00:29:29] then the courts, look at that former country. Well,
[00:29:32] look before that, then the courts issue such
[00:29:35] rigorous uh verdicts that
[00:29:39] in a way they scare the perpetrators
[00:29:42] of those illegal acts, not to
[00:29:45] commit such an act, not with us, everyone is somehow agreeing with someone,
[00:29:48] I mean, it's ridiculous that you see
[00:29:51] arrests, well, these arrests should be forbidden in this way, here I answer
[00:29:55] that masks burst in, jump out,
[00:29:58] take them out there and what happens in the end, nothing.
[00:30:02] He says cases are still being dropped, he says they apologize there,
[00:30:06] uh, well, how do you send a message to the citizens,
[00:30:09] so do your assessments, do, in my time it
[00:30:13] was done that way, a spectacle was never made when it came to something
[00:30:17] small, for example now when the uh, this two-car accident happened
[00:30:21] in Eastern Sarajevo on the
[00:30:24] entity line, there was a noticeable presence of federal
[00:30:28] police armed with long barrels, what?
[00:30:32] What was, what was the goal of that action, to prevent
[00:30:36] the perpetrators from crossing into the other entity or, no, no, no,
[00:30:39] you see, that means, you see, there was a presence of both
[00:30:43] RS police and federal police, there was much more
[00:30:46] federal police presence than from Republika Srpska, well, you see, that means
[00:30:50] they do their job better then, if there was a greater presence, although I
[00:30:54] crossed this our
[00:30:57] administrative line and I saw...